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Our Beloved Summer: Episodes 9-10 Open Thread

After their passionate rain-drenched encounter, our couple starts off on a new foot. But it’s not the foot we might have expected. This new designation is full of as much confusion and refusal to be honest as we’ve come to expect from this pair. Their mouths say one thing; their hearts say another.

 
EPISODES 9-10 WEECAP

Much to my chagrin (and also amusement, because the drama loves to not tell us things), we expressly don’t pick up with the beautiful kiss scene where we ended last week. We don’t even check in with our leads in a meaningful way, either. Instead, we head first to our trusty second lead, Ji-woong.

Ji-woong’s story continues to resonate with me, though. We see the wall he put up years ago, to not only hide his feelings for Yeon-su from both her and Woong, but also from himself. The narration is great here — we get insight into his “tactics” like avoiding chance encounters with her, resisting his urge to be in her sphere, and basically renouncing all things Yeon-su. He says that she’s a risk he can’t control. But at the same time, we see how current circumstances are pushing him towards her again, and it feels very much like the energy he’s spent on renunciation is starting to weigh him down. This part of the story is so well told; I’m just loving it.

Finally, we return to our leads, but we don’t get much — it’s just drama fevers and sleepless nights all around. Our only clue is Yeon-su fleeing the scene, and running into Ji-woong on the hilltop. What happened before? After? In between? Will the drama ever tell us?

Woong has his fever, is comforted by his mother (so touching and lovely!), and in the end, comes to a conclusion as he exits his cave. “I can’t go on without her in my life.” What a gorgeous line. However, he also refuses to date her (to her face!) and has a bit of a wild suggestion: “Should we be friends?”

Actually, the friends zone doesn’t strike me as a terrible idea for these two right now if it means some actual communication, but it comes at a horrid time for Yeon-su. She’s been doing her own navel-gazing and had marched over to Woong’s house to (ostensibly) confess. Or something. At least she knows she has feelings for him, and has admitted it both to herself, and to Sol-yi.

And with that, my friends, the trolling begins! Rather than balk too much, Yeon-su becomes Woong’s “friend” as if someone flipped a switch. She trolls him to death, calling him “chingu-ya,” inviting herself to sleep over, borrowing his clothes, and basically trying to drive Woong crazy. Her real plan, of course, is to find out what he really feels while being friends. They’re even “caught” by Ji-woong during their weird platonic sleepover, and it’s a little hilarious.

Yeon-su eventually goes home, and she’s replaced by Ji-woong (he’d die if he knew he was taking her place on the couch, and using the same blankets she used the night before). Poor Ji-woong is turned upside down by the arrival of his wayward mother; he also has a work hoobae that adores him, but he can’t seem to notice.

Yeon-su invents a silly excuse to return to Woong’s house to retrieve her “precious pouch,” cementing the fact for us (and her) that she’s really crushing on him. But it’s Woong that winds up bringing the pouch to her, and after an awkward dinner with granny (omg the zucchini), Yeon-su and Woong actually have what I’m considering their first truly authentic moment together.

They’re outside of her house, and Woong rubs his belly, complaining how much he ate. The two share a giggle and a nice moment, and it’s just lovely. However, Woong’s takeaway is that they can be friends, while Yeon-su’s is how much she truly likes him. As ever, these two are not on the same page.

It wasn’t until that precious moment Yeon-su shares with her granny that the episode’s focus on maternal comfort really hit me. Earlier we saw Woong nursed by his mother and the tender moments they shared; now, we see the same with Yeon-su and her own mother figure, and it’s just as precious.

Then there’s the contrast, and that’s Ji-woong. He’s the character that’s missing that nurturing and affection, and it’s really starting to show how much it’s affected him. We see the difficult times he had in the past, and how he always relied on crashing with Woong to escape dealing with his mother. I love these two boys as friends and how they support each other as much as they razz each other.

We see Woong offering a lending ear to Ji-woong in the present, but importantly, Ji-woong also confesses a bit of his trials to Yeon-su as the episode closes. It’s his birthday, he’s just had a heartbreaking cry because his mother doesn’t even remember that he’s deathly allergic to peaches, and when he accidentally encounters Yeon-su in the street, he can’t hold back.

It’s a direct contrast to how we opened the earlier episode: how he avoids her, and opening up to her. Now, finally, he does just that. And though we’re not quite sure where it will lead yet, surely it’s a good thing for this boy to start addressing all the stuff that has been weighing down his heart.

 
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I guess, in terms of Woong, NJ is an escape route.

One of the new information we get this week is Woong's terrible experience about being abandoned*, and Yeonsu is his nightmare in the physical form. It is not the first time he said that to her "You are getting away from me, slowly. Woong does said this week, "It's okay to be alone from the start, You'll be used to it. But being alone after being with someone isn't something I want to experience again." This is the whole reason behind he won't apologize for the kiss yet not prepare to get back to her, but want to being friend instead.

This also makes NJ a pretty formidable competitor to Yeonsu: Woong may not love NJ that much, but at least she has not yet betraying him. The route is pretty handy, too. In the end of this week, we know him and NJ's relationship, in the form of a scandal, is out in the open, what he need to do is simply admit that he loves her (the consequence? That's not the point here), or at least, "we are trying to get to know each other." This will be the apocalypses for Yeonsu.

I have to stress that, Woong may not just "fall in love" with NJ (in reality, he won't), because he is such a caring and responsible person; but for Yeonsu, this is a huge possibility.

So now, "Woong is leaving" has become Yeonsu's nightmare in physical form. The stake is so high, next week will be very interesting (and hats off to Kim Dami, her fear is played--twice--very well this week, I rewatched and cried numerous time for that).

*I hope the abandonment scene in Episode 9 will only be Woong's nightmare, and not some "lost brother/sister" cliché, because I hate recycled cheap plots, this is the only worry I have for now, because that assistant loving PD plot (which we just saw in Hometown Cha-cha-cha) is pretty obvious.

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Yes!! 100% agree about NJ's arc and Woong fear of being abandoned again by Yeon Su. I think this is the reason he has not been able to voice and act on his true feelings for her. And to me, it makes complete sense. I also feel like Yeon Su has taken him for granted, like she was so sure he would always have eyes for her only. Though this is true, the appearance of NJ is really acting as a catalyst for her to realize that she actually adores him too!

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"Yeon Su has taken him for granted"

I guess this is also a lesson Woong must learn: he must know how to say "no" to his love sometimes, for the sake of Yeonsu, as well himself. This is something he doesn't know because of that nightmare of abandonment, and he thinks suiting her will keep her beside him.

NJ is probably most overlooked second lead in K-drama history, and I think what she did this week is actually pretty important as the main story unfolds. It's hard to avoid her next week though.

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Thank you sincerely @missvictrix for wee capping this drama. Because I am so invested I will not wait to comment. I will remain the lone voice in the wilderness that cannot ship these two. I am hoping for a clever anti-Hallmark resolution that allows for actual adult growth and interaction.
Yes, our FL had a terrible time getting an education, paying off a debt and supporting her grandma.
Yes the ML had life in the easy chair where he could laze in the sun and devote hours to his art.
How can these two meet on common ground? How can he ever understand her except through the lens of his best bud? How can she ever understand him except through the lens of NJ, who seems to be living the pampered life but who actually worked her a-double-scribble off and invested wisely?
If they end up together I give up.

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I feel you. I keep having the same errand thoughts…like wouldn’t it be amazing to show a tender loving story of two people actually learning something about themselves by doing a failed-do-over? Actually growing up? That second chances are better left to new chances? Alas, it’s narrowly confined to its own genre and the expectation that they’ll end up together made me almost slightly bored despite the adorkable progression of the show.

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I may be having a different opinion with you, @jossie4cheryl. It may be interesting if Woong and NJ be together, but I don't think both Woong and Yeonsu will learn their life lessons. Woong will keep on escaping and not learning how to take responsible to his life, and Yeonsu will forever not knowing how to forgive herself, and being dragged down by her low self-esteem. If you see the ending of Episode 10, Woong goes with NJ is way too easy (a scandal between them is obviously brewing), so easy it's almost irresponsible.

Yes, Woong always looks for easy life, but we saw that in the epilogue of Episode 6, that he is willing to be responsible to his life because of Yeonsu (originally he doesn't care to go to university, and that changed because of Yeonsu). For Yeonsu, she will never really know herself as her low self-esteem bent her down, as well her regret of letting go of him. If the story is, as you said, Woong goes with NJ and Jiwoong with Yeonsu, it will just be easy way out, not true love.

Some other stories go new pairing? That would be creative and interest. Not this one.

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And one more thing: that doesn't solve their problem in life, Woong escaping Yeonsu (and vise versa) will only leave the wound unhealed, simple as that.

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Totally agreed with your easy-out verdict. What character growth will both our MLs achieve if switching their love interest? Problems remain unsolved.

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The k-remake of In Time with You is by all account a failure - and so I didn’t watch it at all.

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By the end of both episodes, I felt like both would actually be perfect with the second leads: Woong and NJ, and Ji-Woong with Yeon-su. I feel like the first pair understand the loneliness of seemingly being surrounded and the second pair understand the hardships of life and difficult family relations. To me they would be emotionally satisfied with each other. But then, I thought, there is something called love that is really difficult to understand, that cannot think. Unfortunately, Yeon Su and Woong deeply love each other. Sometimes, I like to think it is enough. But is it? I like that the story makes me ponder on such things...

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This is how brilliant this drama is. Under this stream of comment we have both sides supports the main leads go with each other or go with second leads, and both have abundant reasons to support.

After reading your comment, @lexyk, I think if the writing is good, that would be possible to have Woong goes with NJ as well, but that would be a thoughtful sad ending--imagine Woong and NJ would get married, but on the wedding ceremony, Woong keeps on thinking about Yeonsu ...

That's exactly the ending of 2011 Taiwanese movie You Are the Apple of My Eye (literally translated: "The Girl, I Liked Then"). If you are careful enough, this is also exactly the secondary titles of this drama's Episode 4. If you are careful enough, do you realize the Drama second title are all paying tribute to some legendary movies (mostly romantic , too)?

Ep. 1 I Know What You Did Last Summer (1997-)
Ep. 2 [500] Days of Summer (2009, they replace it with "1792 Days")
Ep. 3 10‭ ‬Things I Hate About You (1999)
Ep. 4 You Are the Apple of My Eye (literally translated: "The Girl, I Liked Then", Taiwan 2011)
Ep. 5 Secret (literally translated: "A Secret That Can’t Be Told", Taiwan 2007)
Ep. 6 Pride and Prejudice (2005)
Ep. 7 Catch Me If You Can (2002)
Ep. 8 Before Sunset (2004)
Ep. 9 Just Friends (2005)
Ep. 10 Hello, My Soul Mate* (China 2017)

*Note: South Korea will have a remake of this movie, and Kim Dami is one of the leads.

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I was thinking the same too that this drama is indeed paying tribute to many (of my) favourite movies. The feel is definitely close to 500 Days of Summer. And I can definitely see the connection to You are the Apple of My Eyes. But the YS-CW pairing reminds me a lot of the Ariel Lin-Bolin Chen dynamics in In Time with You - although their characters are very different. It’s quite obvious that the writer-PD’s fondness of those classics is lovely channeled to the vibe and feel in OBS.

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You know what, @epyc2010, about In Time with You, I am guess the next episode secondary title would be this movie (or it's Korean title: "The Time We Were Not in Love"). Note this Taiwanese movie has several remakes include a 2015 K-drama starring Lee Jin-wook and Ha Ji-won.

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Unfortunately, love is not enough. If love was enough, people wouldn't end up in toxic, sometimes abusive, emotionally-manipulative, gaslighting, stress-inducing relationships, justifying to each other (and themselves) that love is enough. We can go down the rabbit hole of what-love-is discussion (is it sexual attraction that wanes over time or compatibility of characters that grow over time?) but it seems the consensus is in this modern word, is that it's a rare combination of physical attraction and compatibility with a requirement that each in the relationship is mature to know themselves and know how to handle the stress of living well. We marry not for political/tribal reasons anymore, not for giving a father's name to children out of wedlock, not for instant attraction (this is especially hard to learn for the young adults, I feel like.) We marry mostly for long-term period to create some sense of companionship and happiness that being with that person everyday brings. That is why @jossie4cheryl comment stroke me as wistful and genuine, as she's correct, the reality is a bit more grey-ish in these things than the romance genre wants us to believe. I hope the drama explores these issues, but I doubt that it will be as groundbreaking. Happy Ending is always a requirement of such a genre, and it's not necessarily bad -- when in mood we all want to watch/read something that inspires us for hope in the end. But this drama is written and directed so well, that we almost hope that it will take it a notch higher to break from its own confines.

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They went pretty well through those things already before, we saw just little bits of it - it's storytelling reminds me of talking to your good friend who thinks he/she knows you well but is always surprised by those little things he had missed while you've been in a relationship with someone. Woong realized that he can't exist without Yeon Su that she is completing his other half and if there isn't any other way to do so he needs to stay her friend. It's still on the korean premise that opposite sex can't be friends which is nonsense but I'm curious if the storytelling won't weakened because of that factor.

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You would love 500 Days of Summer. Turns every trope on its head and cuts to the heart.

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Oh thanks for the rec! I've never watched it, added to my list.

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I too was thinking about these episodes that the lesson love is not enough applies, but I don't think that a thoughtful ending would require Woong and Yeon-su ending up with the second leads. In fact, I be a bit disappointed if that happened, and not because it would defy convention--I think this drama could still unite the main leads, and bring the lesson of companionship and happiness home by showing a growing understanding between Woong and Yeon-Su, that would go beyond the flash realization of love that is so commonplace in these romances.

Of course, I admit that its not looking good for a lot of growth, especially with Woong entering, first, an infantile self-pity mode again in episode 9 (at least he realized that he really didn't want to have Yeon-Su leave his life immediately at the end) and then the looming threat of both Ji-Woong and NJ as reasons for foolish noble denial and jealousy.
I do think, though, that this drama could have the main leads unite at the end and STILL take it a notch higher. We'll see!

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Agreed. Going with another person is never the theme of this drama but the journey for their reunion is.

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Or -- they all could just end up all single in this "love square" which would actually approximate the real-world scenario of healthy adult growth. For me that would be an interesting ending (morale of the ending would be: "get to know thyself" before forming love relationships) but at this point in drama, it's hard for me to ship any of the pair. There's a lot more left unsaid and unexplored, and I'm curious to see how their journey is going to progress. :)

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I just hope we'll not getting the last episode 5 min reunion with them meeting again for the 3ed time while looking each other at a 1m distance and giving hint they will try again this time...That would be the worst...

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@epyc2010, @bomibeans, @miky88 ...

Turn out all our prediction are wrong, and it still give a very perfect ending ...

(After watching Episode 16 ... Guess let's talk about it at the appropriate article ...)

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Woong is a typical child of restaurant's owners who started their business when their child was still a little one. Two hours a day he could have them for himself but the rest of the day he was put aside, assigned to help and observing. He was neglected. He slowly started to live in his own world and his inner frustration was transferred into the moves of a pen, pencil or my favourite drawing tool - rapidograph pen (usually used by architecture or design students before the computer programs). He's found his healing tool by himself when he was a kid and he saw in Ji - woong that there can be someone more abandoned than him and he wanted to share what he has with him to lessen his misfortune and to share his loneliness.
Was he sitting on a golden chair? Comparing to Ji Woong and Yeon Su yes but comparing to others no.

Ji Woong is a beautiful self grown oak tree in an abandoned field - beautiful, robust with his uneven cracked bark admired by many but feeling lonely on its own. I don't know why he's dwelling so much on Yeon Su. You can have a crush on someone for years when innocently young but after it turns into an idol phantasies ifs. He needs someone who will give him all he didn't have: reassuring warmth of family home, love and open affection. He has to be rejected to find out that there is someone else who cares as much as himself.

The life of lovers doesn't end happily ever after with a marriage certificate. There's always some struggle to follow and it's always about comprising and giving up on something so I'm glad that these characters are showing that to the audience.

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"Ji Woong is a beautiful self grown oak in an abandoned field". Wow what a wonderful description.

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Thank you 💕

btw it's not comprising but compromising 😉

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In case you interest, @kerouregan and @jossie4cheryl, the 7th OST of the drama starts with "Like a tree, your memory was a shade if you rested on me ..."

The song with English lyric, although I think this is not the best translation.

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The Magellan's beech! Ji Woong is the Magellan's beech and Woong's the oak like those we see in the UK. Or is it the other way around like I thought at first? I don't know anymore...

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So turns out Woong comes from a rather rich family with restaurants business. Shall we add this to Yeonsu's inferior syndrome?
Two of the are still suffering from heartbreaks even after 5 years. While there are lack of communications between them, Yeonsu being insecure and Woong being easygoing, it's obvious there is no room for someone else between them. There is NJ, there is Jiwoong, but their existance are not good enough to bring happiness, fulfillment for Woong and Yeonsu.
Relationships can be as complicated as such. You know that person will bring a lot of hurts, and yet at the same time, you also know there is no else can replace that person. Is it toxic? Maybe.
So a little bit of advise, try to ask Joonyoung and Songah in DYLB? How to communicate with each other. Jiwoong/Hyunho can introduce you two 😄😄
Anyway, I wish Yeonsu will open up a little bit. She should have realized her so called pride brought her nothing but pain when it comes to Woong.
I was expecting bickering but cheerful drama, but instead it delivers so much feels.

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Woong is such a darn lucky guy, got the best parents, devoted gf/ex-gf, best best friends and manager, an idol whom crush on him, wonderful career and doing what he likes for living while spending day bask in the sun in high school. Sometimes I dont get his sadness, but Sadness doesnt need reason and validation. Hah. I want to grow up old like him! His life principle is absolutely like mine but me with less luck ha ha ha.
Still want them back together, should live his luck to the fullest 😂 Choi woo shik is just adorb

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"His life principle is absolutely like mine but me with less luck" same. 😂

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I only watched episode 9 to see if there was any progress. But alas! I'll watch episode 10 along with next week's episodes if something actually happens because I've run out of patience. Woong was wrong not to apologize after the kiss but i can still give him some leeway. Probably because we saw what he went through after the break up. He became an insomniac and had to depend on pills and his drawings also became dark based on what his manager wrote in his artbook. In contrast, I still feel like we didn't see the effects on yeon su's life post break up. Maybe they'll show more later because there are 16 eps. But because of that I'm having a hard time relating to her. It's clear they both still like each other. But this time it has to be yeon su who should take the initiative since we've seen woong's attempts to reconcile and failing. Maybe she wanted to get back together with him this week but I can understand his reluctance. She has to show him that she cares equally about this and hopefully we'll see this next week.

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I’m in love with this drama. It’s just beautifully filmed, scripted and wonderfully acted. CW is such an oddball but his fears are real. His eyes speak volumes on what he feels for YS but his actions and words contrast it. Words mainly - I find him really harsh in the things he say to her. It’s like I curl up in pain on behalf of her. Maybe she deserves it. The breakup have been alluded as brutal. We saw just one scene but I believe the brutality is more than that considering his abandonment issues. But still.. it’s undeniable they care a lot of each other and I don’t think for a second they can be just friends. Maybe this is what CW wants, a little bit of greed from him, you want her close but not close enough to hurt. Thing is love doesn’t work that way, it is often all or nothing. I believe YS will rather choose nothing the way she is. I’m not sure we can take the heartbreak along the way - but if the endgame is still the OTP, I’m in for the ride

P/S they definitely have issues so I think before they get together they should talk , easier said than done though

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Thanks so much for another brilliant weecap @missvictrix! So glad you pulled out the point about mothers - yes, not only having a pretty useless mother but having a friend with such a great one (who basically adopts you anyway) makes your loss that much harder to swallow.

Ji-ung is *such* a fascinating character now - in a different personality, this man would be exploding with pent-up repressed emotion at this point. But although we can see cracks in the facade, he's still keeping it in check. How is his story going to end? Although hoobae is clearly devoted, I would be sceptical about them ending up together (unless we get a time jump, please no...) as it would feel inauthentic to who Ji-ung is. This is someone whose emotions move at a glacial pace, whose commitment to Yeonsu and whose distancing from his mother have stayed put for a decade. Is his end game going to be simple honesty, to admit to the people who have hurt him what's been going on in his heart/head for so long? Impatient to knoooooooow!

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I was kinda hoping that sleepover will last longer then maybe we can get real talk between the leads. Despite that I still saw a lot of encouraging behavior from YeonSoo and Ung.

The best is that we see the walls that YS has put up crumble down. She has confided in SolYi and her grandmother. She realized that she has a crush on him and Ung is only interested in being friends at this point. She saw for herself that Ung has not forgotten her since he still has their couple shirts and that drawing of the amusement park when they broke up the nth time. She has seen for herself tangible things to see Ung's heart eventhough he has not said it in the past.

Ung on the other hand realizes for himself that he likes her company, and actively seeked it when he cancelled that interview so can spend the day with her. We know that she is the only woman in his heart since the way he looks at her secretly speaks volumes. Then when he saw the video of YS in the broadcast station, he has such a wistful smile. Which I would like to think made him realize for himself the bubbly YS that he met in the past. The YS version that she rarely showed to others. I also find it encouraging that he went out of his way to deliver YS's precious pouch immediately. When earlier in the episode he was asked to deliver the food to JU, he complained incessantly. Plus he got to hear from YS's grandma that YS cried for days after the breakup. So he got the confirmation that YS was not unaffected when they broke up years ago. Again he actively seeked to stay in her orbit that night and had dinner with YS's grumpy grandma. Grandma scares the sh*t out of him but he chose to stay and even had seconds (judging by him saying he ate a lot) so he can stay with YS longer.

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... Overall I say there were a lot of encouraging signs that the two may be headed to the right direction towards reconciliation. What I hope to see next week are confessions and honest conversation so they stop misunderstanding and hesitating to follow their heart. Both of them need reassurances so I want to see them get it next week.

For JiUng, i want him to be happy. If confiding in YS is a start in confiding to other people aside from Ung, then so be it. May he have a bigger circle of friends that he can confide it and be himself with.

For NJ, I hope she does not use th dating scandal to force Ung to be with her. Ung will be a difficult person if he is forced to do something he does not want to do. There will be a limit to his politeness and goodwill.

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I'm not the biggest fan of NJ but I trust that she respects Woong, enough to not play with him that way. I hope that preview was just (frustratingly) misleading.

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I hope so. I didnt like that part of the preview. She is getting impatient with the progress with Woong. That short clip of convo with YS does not look good on her part.

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Woong : I'm curious about his nightmare. If he was lost as a child and it traumatized him, he should talk about it to his parents. But I think he doesn't want to hurt them. His parents are great but everybody agreed about the fact he was all alone until Ji-Woong. But this fear to be abandonned is very strong and kept him to live his life.

Yeon-Su : She finally admitted her feelings! I think we will see her teen version more straighforward and more focused to be happy. The scene with her grandma was touching, again she opened to her for the first time. The diner scene was funny with the size of the zucchinis (were they really cooked?) but I was angry against the grandma, she's the one who was the colateral for the uncle debt and made her granddaugther to loose the will to dream.

Ji-Woong : I'm not sure to understand why he's so in love with Yeon-Su when he didn't see her for 5 years... But his story is really sad. He really tried to be a good friend and never let his feelings to be between them. I'm mixed between the fact he's really nice to him to not burden Yeon-Su with his feelings and in the same time, I think he could turn this page only after being honest about them with her... And his mother... He really needs to stop hoping something from her and change his door code!

NJ : She's cute and I like how she's only character being straight and honest! I don't want to see her being hurt because behind her bubbly energy, she's very alone too.

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What if Show trolls us, break history & have the leads end up with 2nd leads?

Nahhhh.. just kidding that wont happen.

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Wouldn’t that be great? Boy, would I love to see that for once 😜

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Riiighhht.....So how did the leads be in a relationship for 5 years!!!!???? (so close to the 7 year itch!). If there are so many probs now of non-communication, what did the prev 5 years work on? Can't be only the physical attraction aspect of the relationship...this apart...drama is engaging because of the chemistry between CWS and KDM...

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lol, amen to this.
I think their just stuck in the past because they didn't have a decent break up. They have gave us zero reasons to think they need to get back together in the present, just "they used to date and they still love each other (allegedly)".

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I just love that we got more NJ this week! I also like the epiloge, now I want more bromance (zero Yeon Soo related, please).

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A bit confused by ep 10 title: A Soulmate. Who is and with whom? Mmm, a thought did creep that a laughing, smiling Ung with NJ was cute. Seems like a good pairing too. Yeon-su built her career in the years they were apart. She was able to get back to the old house they were in. The separation for her seemed like noble idiocy on her part. Ung, in the intervening years, did the same too - Paris, travel then serious art. What will be Ji-ung's? Eager to see what's for next week. Though, if we follow k-drama line, seems like angst time or will it be resolution, with the succeeding episodes to the ending showing a happier pairing.

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I cracked up at the zucchini soup scene! Ung’s expression at the half cut zucchini in the soup and him trying to eat the thick slice of zucchini was hilarious 😂
On a serious note, I pity Ji woong. He is not able to control his feelings for Yeonsu anymore while she and Ung clearly aren’t over each other. I am not sure if Ji woong can’t see that or pretends not to see.

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I think JW knows they still love each other. its the question he keeps teasing CW with, but never really asks. he doesnt want that beign said out loud bcs it would make his life miserable

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Hmm....I think I'd feel more for Jiwoong's side of things if they showed any actual connection between him and Yeonsu. For now, we only see his one-sided yearning or really, infatuation with her, but there really hasn't been any sign that Yeonsu reciprocates. So even without Woong in the picture, I don't see how they could build a relationship when Jiwoong is in so deep, but Yeonsu just considers him as an old childhood friend.
But on Woong's side, I also want to figure out what he's thinking. This week round, he's switched to become the more opaque character, while Yeonsu's been poking at him to provoke him a bit. Like others, I also thought the pace was a bit slow, but I do appreciate the time taken to explore these maternal relationships and things outside of the romance~

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Emperor Titus and I are thinking along the same lines. Noting a few movies used as episode titles, I decided to research. Don't know if this gives us any insight into the minds of writer-nim and PD-nim but I will say, the movies all share painful yet honest character insights and genuinely affecting romance. They also share unexpected plot twists.
Ep #1 "I Know What You Did Last Summer" is a 1997 American slasher/horror film about teens covering up a hit& run killing. Also made into a 2021 series that has an episode called "Mukbang".
Ep # 2 (1792) Days of Summer, could be based on a late '90's American rom com film deemed "a perfect love not meant to last". The FL's name is Summer. The ML writes Hallmark greeting cards and is head over heels but the FL is adverse to commitment. By the way, 1792 days equals 5 years and 12 days.
Ep #3 Ten Things I Hate About You, a modern re-telling of the Taming of the Shrew in high school. Has sisters with different personalities and fake couples (also Joseph Gorden-Levitt who was in 500 Days.
Ep #4 The Boy/Girl I Liked Back Then, could be based on the 2014 Jennie Han novels made into the 2018 series about American-Korean sisters the younger of which writes passionate letters to her crushes. There's a plot twist in the epilogue.
Ep # 5 The Secret That Cannot Be Told is a 2007 Taiwanese film by Jay Chou remade as a Korean drama While You Were Sleeping. Time travel romance with piano playing and 20 year jumps which I hope does not foretell that trope.
Ep #6 Pride and Prejudice which is obvious. Both ML and FL are interchangeably full of pride and suffering from prejudice.
Ep # 7 Catch Me If You Can is a 2002 Spielberg film about a con artist. A story with "people on the run from their sad pasts" at it's core.
Ep #8 Before Sunset is the 2004 middle film in Linklater's Before trilogy that centers on the reconnection of two people after many years. They met on a train, walked and talked all night and then lost track of each other. This post will be too long, I know.
Ep #9 Just Friends is a 2005 Xmas comedy about an obese ML and his "just friends" crush in high school. There are some humorous observations about strictly platonic relationships.
Ep # 10 Hello My Soulmate is a 2016 Chinese romantic drama film about 13 year old besties who grow apart. Very well reviewed and both FL's won awards. Also an unreleased Kdrama starring Kim Da mi!

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Oh, @jossie4cheryl, you get my point!!!

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@imperialtitus You mentioned before that English is not your native language from what I remember. I just want to compliment you that over time as I'm reading your comments, your English progressed really, really, really well! :)

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My face is getting red now, @bomibeans.

I still miss quite a lot of "s"s, and some tenses usage is still not very confident. Hope that you don't mind.

Thank you very much.

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Oh wow, plot twist perhaps? That would make this drama very interesting.

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Thank you for sharing your thoughts/research. I noted the movie and some matching themes in the episodes, but I am sure there is a whole lot more to note on a rewatch. I am actually looking forward to the rewatch because so much is told in pieces and the writer is not afraid to leave us hanging for a bit. I just hope when this is complete this style with match execution.

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Just this evening started a re-watch. All gold.

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Just have one little objection about the list you laid out, @jossie4cheryl. According to @netflixkr Instagram, Episode 4 title is paying tribute to another Taiwanese film which released in 2011, talking about a girl who was an honor student in class and popular among the boys, one of them, whose grades went very poor, really loves to read comics and declared he had no interest to the girl, finally got the girl's heart, and they shared a relationship through the university years, but break up afterward. Some years later, the girl is getting married to another man, and invited every boys, including him to her wedding.

This one is especially important, because:
1. The boy who won the girl's heart, Ko Ching-teng, later become ... no, not an illustrator, but a writer (and by the way, the name Ko Ching-teng is in fact the real name of the movie's screenwriter-director, Giddens Ko, who beforehand wrote the semi-autobiographical novel the movie based on, so the movie is in fact his own story)
2. Think about the parallel between that movie and this very drama, don't you think Ching-teng and the girl, Chia-yi, are exactly Woong and Yeonsu?

*Although the movie's English name is very different (You Are the Apple of My Eye), but the Korean name is in fact the same (그 시절 우리가 좋아헸던 소녀) with the secondary title.

Trailer with English subtitle
Wikipedia entry

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Sorry, some detail between the movie and the drama is still different, Chia-yi was popular in class, but Yeonsu was a lonewolf. Ching-teng has more friend then Woong as well, and by judging the plot development of Episode 10, Yeonsu may not like to be just Woong's friend, but Ching-ting and Chia-yi has become very good friends after sometimes they broke up (and lost contact with each other). However, the parallel is pretty obvious.

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There is a common theme between The Apple of My Eyes and OBS: opportunity missed and regret.

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Love this! You have the advantage being able to read/watch not "ABC"! The film "The Secret That Cannot Be Told" was episode 5's title, right? How I wish I could watch the original. It's about a convoluted time travel thing where the ML decides to stay in the past (or future?) to safe the life of the FL.
Sorry but I must declare my allergy to time travel plots. Real life/love is complicated enough :)!

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Remember to open English subtitle.

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And just in case you have interest: this is the movie Episode 4 title paying tribute to (English subtitle is available as well): https://youtu.be/zclIbjzTFH0

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Wow this is great! I’m kinda excited for the ending now, to see what Show would serve us. it’s perfectly fine if they dont end up together. @bbstl not the troll i mentioned but this would be a worthy trope-defying move yeah?

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Sure, let’s see! I’m all for it!

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I agree with you, @parkchuna, Woong and Yeonsu not being together at the end may not be a typical ending of this kind of drama, but I think Korean audience can accept a not very "happy ending". In Record of Youth Hyejun (Park Bogum) and Jeongha (Park Sodam) has become friends and didn't become a couple, and people seem okay with it, right?

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Mmmm yeah but RoY also had Noble Idiots if i remember right, so i’m not too fond of it in general.

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Yeah, I just said people "seem okay" to the ending (meaning, I didn't see any negative media report about the ending) because RoY itself is not very good (For me, I quit the drama the same episode Park Seo-joon have the special appearance, because I found the story a bit too boring, probably because of Hyejun's family).

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Yeah It was boring! Kinda disappointing really. I kept hoping it’d get better and stuck with it cos it was PBG’s final drama before army but it was such a waste..

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Thank you for mentioning the movies that are the titles of the episodes. It was there in my subconscious, you’ve actually pulled them out into consciousness! My husband’s favorite movie is Before Sunset and we have all three in the trilogy. They are longing and just two people talking the entire movie—-to each other. He likes it because conversation is really a lost art. To talk and not argue, to listen and not just hear. Anyway, Woong and Yeong-su have a long way to go. 😆

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Thank you for another weecap, @missvictrix. You are fast!
I am (too) invested in these characters, which is a mark of a good drama for me. Indeed, I think I will wait for the back half to air because I am not good at waiting for these episodes. But, I will continue to enjoy your recaps and comments here. Thanks, everyone!

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What I miss the most from this week's episodes were clips from the old documentary between Ung and YS. I have started reading the webtoon (until ep6) and I am really interested what made them fall for the other. YS and Ung didnt really like each other from the start and took turns annoying the other. I would love to see more flashbacks of that in ep 11 and 12 please.

Its interesting since YS and Ung were by each other's side for a month. It only took that long for them to fall for the other. Considering they both take time to warm up to other people. So it must've been something big for them to change each other's first impression.

I think I am just obsessing too much on this. But I am still interested to know..

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This was exactly what I was missing in these episodes--I really liked the flashback via the old documentary. Also, in the sad story of Ji Woong, it would have been great to have some references to his decision to become a film maker. In some ways, being a bit of an outsider and an observer, which would explain his interest in film making, you'd think as an adult he'd be able to see the struggles of his Mom, and why she behaved as she did, as well as the way she neglected him. But maybe that is coming later in the show?

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JW and the older PD had a convo about it. It was the PD that encouraged JW to be documentary director like him since he has observed characteristics of JW 10 years ago tha would suit him for the job.

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I thought it was very telling when CW did not get any inspiration to draw after that lunch with NJ, but after a meal with YS and her grandmother he was drawing. His drawings is heavy affected by YS as while they where together his drawings had color and was vibrant, but after the break up they where darker with darker color. I feel YS is the first person he gonna draw.

I have a feeling if NJ gonna push CW because she get inpatient with him and use the dating article she gonna ruin their budding friendship. Based on what we seen so far CW gonna be very uncomfortable with the article I belive.

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You are right. CW is not inspired by NJ or her bldg. YS on the other hand is a big influence on him.

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Great point, and one I didn't catch.

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Nice catch, I’ll rewatch those scenes.

I was really said to see Woong’s rough sketches during the breakup, they looked great but so raw and pained. I wonder if by the end of the show he’d start adding people (not necessarily Yeonsoo) into his building drawings – I think it’s more probable than him drawing an actual portrait…

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Can you see into the future? Knowing the ending and a certain other reveal--in black & white--your comments on his art and inspiration are preceptive to say the least.

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still loving every bit of this drama and these characters. I dont mind leads ending up with each other, with second leads or by themselves at all but I think in this specific case it would be heavy handed if the drama put these two in full romance with their second leads in what? 4 eps? 6? bcs none of them had shown any sign of romantic interest in them at all. maybe the drama can end with a hint of a potential drama between them and the second leads? that I could buy. but putting them in an actualt relationship, liking these people would be too fast imo. especially for YS, it wouldnt make any sense.

I think we will get CW and YS together by the end. at max, we might get an open ending or both of them by themselves, but I dont see them with the second leads at all. I just hope the drama doesnt reduce NJ and JW to props that move the leads actions. bcs I really like both of them as characters in itself and they both have a lot of story to be told and arc to be developed that is not directly related to the leads.

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Uh-oh @EmperorTitus, have you seen the title of episode 11? They're referencing a French film which means...., things about to get crazy.

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How Woong and Jiwoong learned to be alone together hits me everytime... from the outside, Woong's family looks perfect to the point even JiWoong that actually knew how lonely Woong was, cant help but feel envious. That form of neglect, that wasnt intentional but affected hermit Woong, seems to explain why he fears being abandoned... YS did it once and it broke him so he wisely doesnt want to go through that again. JiWoong... his neglect seems more deliberated... his mom's shenanigans affect him to this day to the point he talks about it with someone that isnt Woong... this is a drama that makes me think if love alone is enough to keep things smooth. YS and JW actually talk to each other... they communicate... same thing happens with NJ and Woong... is it easy to actually communicate for them because theyre not 'in love' with those people? I know we wont get this and I dont feel like this often but they match with the Second leads too... its like they understand each other better...

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It’s undeniable that the storytelling aspect of this drama is amazing. The narrative in the beginning and the epilogue, those are just so heartwarming because we get to know more about the characters. I absolutely love Jiung so much, i dont know if its bc of sungcheol or what but I’m always excited for his parts. Need more jiung with yeonsu moments honestly!! I just wanna see him being in love thats all. But I also love Chaeran and Jiung tgt

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