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Forecasting Love and Weather: Episodes 3-4 Open Thread

Things are about as awkward as they can be between our new director and her rookie forecaster, but there are other things going on too, like the battle of continued attraction between them, the fact that their exes are always in close proximity — oh, and also some heavy waves and sudden dense fog to make things a little more dramatic.

 
EPISODES 3-4 WEECAP

The good news is that Forecasting leans more into the rom-com this week, and we get some cuteness to help make this drama a little more jazzy. The bad news is that the boring things stay boring, and we continue to be weighed down by heavy-handed weather metaphor narrations and a love square that offers no actual enjoyment. At least none for me.

After a wild night and a bizarre morning-after handshake, Ha-kyung and Shi-woo head off separately to work, both pretending everything is fine, but both secretly muttering “This is nuts” to themselves under their breath.

Another thing they’re both doing is sneezing. Is it the yellow dust, and a weather emergency is heading our way? Or have they both just caught cold, and it serves as an opportunity for Shi-woo to prove what a thoughtful puppy he is by delivering tissues and cold meds to a semi-bewildered Ha-kyung.

The use of weather events in this show in and of itself is not bad, and I don’t blame these folks for taking the weather personally (I know I did when I got a snow squall warning earlier today). Anyway, it’s not the weather itself, but how it’s played. One way is for drama. Last week we had the rogue hail and heavy rainfall, and this week we have – wait for it — dense fog.

Forecasting tries to show us the hardships of the forecasters, what it’s like for them, and the ramifications of every weather forecast, good, bad, or inaccurate. I guess it worked, because it’s got me thinking about the weather differently — but by differently, I mean through the eyes of bureaucracy, and I don’t consider this an enjoyable perspective shift.

The second use of weather in this drama is just as a vehicle for loaded office conversations arguments. And this week we have lots of them. They’re borderline boring, and begin to feel contrived just so that the various sides of our love square can argue. So when Ha-kyung and dirtbag fiance Ki-joon are arguing about the wave advisory, or Shi-woo yells at Ki-joon over the bureaucratic pressure, or Ha-kyung confronts Yoo-jin over her poor journalism — we all know that’s not what they’re really arguing about. And so, the weather and office politics merely serve to get everyone to butt heads (lock horns?) even more.

But all is not lost, because we have some cuteness thrown into these dramatics, and that kind of saves the day. Despite Ha-kyung drawing (or trying to draw) a hard line, Shi-woo is built into her fate — he’s the online buyer of one of her un-wedding gifts, which provides more bonding and mutual appreciation. And then that bonding leads to a hijinks-filled dinner where Ha-kyung eventually duck-walks out of the restaurant to hide from the rest of her team who just appeared. (More of this, Show, and less overly dramatic weather talk, please!)

While we’re seeing all these hijinks and cuteness from Ha-kyung and Shi-woo, we’re getting the exact opposite from Ki-joon and Yoo-jin. These two are already arguing like a grumpy married couple — she leaves their apartment a disaster, he comes home grumpy as hell over the mess, all of which concludes with Yoo-jin taking out the trash and reminiscing on how not so long ago, Shi-woo treated her like a princess.

In fact, we see so much nagging and lack of character from these Ki-joon and Yoo-jin that the drama is painting quite the polarity for us: the two couples that split last week actually wound up better matched in round two. The petty and immature pair wound up together and must deal with the consequences of their rashness, while the wronged pair (of higher character and better disposition) wind up together and in a blissful union.

Yes, I said blissful union. At the end of Episode 3, Shi-woo comes clean that he truly likes Ha-kyung and wants to keep seeing her. It’s a great scene (and the alleyway lighting is killer — someone give the location scout a raise!), but we’re left hanging on how it concluded for much of Episode 4. Did she spurn him? Is that why she’s being hard on him at the office and has donned her cold exterior once again?

At the end of the episode we learn the answer is quite the opposite. The two decided to date. And so all the “cold” moments in the office were actually a front for hidden winks and handholds — and I’m sure we’ve got more of that coming.

We also have more conflict headed our way, because Ki-joon has learned that Yoo-jin lied to him and had previously been dating Shi-woo. Now I think everyone is in the know, and that is sure to complicate their interactions even more. Because yes, Ki-joon is also thinking fondly of the woman he so cruelly tossed aside two(ish) months ago.

We had some good progression on the side storylines this week, too — first off, it pains me to say how much I dislike Kim Mi-kyung’s character here. I know she has Ha-kyung’s best interests at heart, but everything she does crosses the line, whether it’s the matchmaking profile or the total lack of boundaries. I was kinda glad when Ha-kyung packed up her luxury suitcase and set off for her apartment.

The other storyline of interest is that of the senior forecaster on Ha-kyung’s team, UHM DONG-HAN (Lee Sung-wook). There’s a friction between the two that I quite like as we try to decide whether he’s being an insubordinate jerk, or actually helping to mold her into a good leader (hey Show, can we lean more into this angle)?

Outside of the office, though, Dong-han’s story is sad. For the last 14 years he’s worked offsite and lived away from his family. Now he’s back in Seoul and living with them, and their disgust could not be more palpable. This actually really got to me; both his wife and daughter have neither affection nor respect for him. As the story progresses, we learn that he’s been a distant husband and father, but a part of me still sides with him. We’ll have to see where this storyline takes us — and I’d be fine if that’s in the direction of healed relationships and new beginnings. Either that or there’s a homicide in our future.

After four episodes of Forecasting, I feel like it’s fair to start layering on the criticism (read: this weecap), since we have a stronger sense of the kind of drama we have, and where it wants to go. Sadly, I don’t really like it. Much like last week, there are moments and scenes that I really enjoy, and I can never dislike Park Min-young, but this show really lacks the sparkle that keeps you coming back for more episodes, and squeeing as you go. Also, at the rate they’re going, they will run out of extreme weather conditions before we reach Episode 8. Then what?

 
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Thanks for the fast wee-cap @missvictrix, but I must respectfully disagree (as we Beanies do so well). The very parts you dislike are the best aspects of this drama for me.
Being female working in any science field - be it government, academia or private sector, is beyond stressful. No matter how good one is at a job the fact of being a female is always an undertone in any situation. I cringe at the blithe use of labels like "cold", "meticulous" and "by the book" when they are applied to female characters in dramas, especially those who are bosses. What else can they be? Cutesy candies, people pleasing sweethearts, bitter un-marrieds?
I applaud the writing team for including appropriate science; weather plus mountains is a bear to forecast and they are getting that right.
What they are also getting right is the toll on families and personal health that these male-centric occupations exact. The dud-dad is a sad character who is a stranger to his family because he continuously made choices to advance his career at their expense. The former director needed a heart attack to step back. The promising female meteorologist was sidelined because she got married and had (gasp) two maternity leaves. What a crock.
The post pandemic work world will look a lot different than what we all experienced even a couple years ago. While the rom-com aspects of this tired plot click along at their usual tropy pace, I for one am glad to see a bit of real-world perspective being thrown in to the mix. Makes me wonder how the writing team will utilize their Great Resignation moment.

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I'm glad you're enjoying it!

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Those labels are frequently applied to male leads and I find it similarly unappealing in both cases. There is also the thing with this show where it doesn't even seem to be the case. The pitch as I understood it was Hakyung was supposed be to competent, by the book, and ya know good at her work while Shiwoo was the inexperienced, naïve, prodigy? In the show itself we mostly just see Hakyung frequently frazzled, out of sorts, and wrong while Shiwoo comes across as always cool, in control, and always right? Like I don't get the dynamic and I don't think its a particularly realistic approach to the whole thing. I will concede that the idea of work life balance being hell is addressed but thats about it.

The second leads existing are a conundrum as well. Why did they get married like right after breaking things off without seeming to know the most basic things about each other? I can understand them being open about their relationship but why was marriage a consideration when they both clearly are extremely selfish people? Why are they both basically the worst people alive and what did our leads see in them in the first place?

All in all the biggest issue for me is definitely the characters, I did find the science behind the weather interesting but even in the opening episode with our "prodigy" seemingly being the one able to correctly predict two separate instances of severe weather already soured me on that front as well.

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You have identified the crux. Back when I was a baby geologist the argument was between the "boots-on-the -ground" verses the "black box" geologists. That being those who used hammers verses those who employed computers. Amusingly, both are viable sources of data.

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Fascinating, is there any sort of agreement on which method is preferred or it case by case?

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Computer modeling and technology is the most useful for research especially in geophysics and volcanology but boots-on-the-ground is still necessary.

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Something I hope the show addresses in due time, perhaps before mid finale. She's was named director for goodness's sake, the youngest director they've ever had. Portray her as the competent staff that she is.

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I thought they have. She is mature and weighs the consequences of her weather predictions. Because she knows it affects lives. Whereas he is just pure love of science but not thinking about the consequences.

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I agree. Our enthusiastic puppy has been right a couple of times, but I really liked the scene where she was measuring his emphatic opinion against the more measured, experienced view of his senior - and she did just what I would have done, sided mostly with experience but kept her options open for further observations.

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Well said!

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Alluvial_Fan, I've long wanted to say that I consider your nom de plume one of the most clever on Dramabeans. Although I'm sure there are plays on Korean words that I'm missing in other names that are just as witty, this one I get, especially the play on sediment/sentiment. Not that I'm accusing you of sentimentality, or (dumping?) sentimentality.

Anyway, although I myself never had brains enough to be a scientist, nor mathematician like @dorotka (everyone on here is so smart--why am I mouthing off, I ask myself) I have for most of my life been surrounded by really intelligent and driven women scientists, I know from hearing their stories that what you say is accurate about the male-centric nature of scientific professions. But I have to agree with the contributor Kun that so far Ha-Kyung has not yet fully displayed her competence. I'm sure that will come in due time. It takes no forecasting insight to predict that since the show is making such a big deal of the difficulty of office romances that there's going to be a major weather interpretation/procedural conflict between Ha-Kyung as an administrator and Shi-Woo as an intuitive genius that is going to test their relationship, so we'll see how the show handles it.

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Mille grazie! Lucy Jones is my hero and her advice to women scientists still rings true. "You can 1) advance your career; 2) maintain a healthy personal life; 3) raise happy, healthy kids. But you only get to pick two of those!"
So invested to see what Ha-kyung decides to do.

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Sigh, @hacja How can you disagree with some aspect of someone’s opinion but still appear to be so diplomatic and considerate and gentle about that opinion? How can I learn this art? Alas, I’m prone to unadulterated directness and cynicism and they, unfortunately, sow discord.

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@bomibeans You are as usual way too kind, but now I must disagree with you in a way that tries to exemplify how you are inaccurately characterizing me. I have very little to say, but use a lot of words to say it, while you have great critical insight, and express it succinctly. I think if you would poll most people on here, or most people outside the Internet bubble, there's no doubt about who they'd rather read or talk with!

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Pshaw. Go on with your bad self.
All of us are united in our love of this art form. Having other addicts with whom we can discuss and learn is just the dark chocolate on top :)!

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Phenomenal writing is equal parts substance and form. Shakespeare was such a master of both: he discussed so many "meaty" subjects, but oh boy HOW he said it! It's not either or notion, I believe - some people might even argue it's just the two sides of the same coin, like wouldn't the arrangement of the particles (form) define the matter (liquid, gas or solid?) In my mind, if little is said but is said beautifully, it's such a music to my ears! But if much is said with little, it's surprise, laughter, cry. We, humans, crave both. Some Beanies express their opinions so eloquently, I can't wait to read their next opinions, even if I don't watch the show. And some Beanies express themselves so clearly and to-the-point, I'm like whoa-well-said. It's a pure pleasure reading all these comments and enjoying both the thought behind them and the style.

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Maybe I've just been really lucky, but as a fellow woman in a STEM field, I never felt like me being a woman was an issue at all. I was always treated with respect by both my male and female colleagues. Also, I've had an equal number of male and female bosses so it seems like, at my workplaces at least, women were given equal opportunities for advancement. Again, this is just from my experience. It sounds like your experience has been very different.

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So VERY glad to hear that the tide is shifting. For those of us who matriculated in the '80s, things were different. You go girl.

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I agree. I'm nerdily loving the weather-y dimension and the debates. It's made me realise how much depends on the forecasts and how inexact the science is.

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I guess I enjoyed this slightly more than last week but still have issues with it. There is a good drama lurking in here but the second leads and Song Kang and his one expression are bringing it down. I still don't really like any of the characters.

Of course Shi-woo was calm, cool and collected after the ONS while Ha-kyung is a frazzled mess who can’t do her job.

I don’t understand how Ha-kyung and Shi-woo already have feelings for each other. They fought, talked about their exes over drinks and had a ONS. When did these feelings have time to grow? The buildup could have been a lot better. I can't help but think Ha-kyung is an idiot for dating another coworker.

I don’t care about the cheating newlyweds at all. They continue to be completely awful in every way. You miss someone taking out the trash for you or feeding you ideas. Too bad. Get off my screen.

I like seeing Ha-kyung stand up to her ex and his sidepiece but stop with the arguments at work. I’d dread having to work with them. Another reason not to date another coworker.

I do continue to like how they are showing how weather forecasts affect people’s lives and livelihoods, like with the high wind warning and fishermen, but at the same time the weather talk can get boring.

I find the Senior Forecaster’s story the most interesting. Fourteen years is a long time to live and work away from your family. It’s interesting how civil servants are transferred so often and their families often stay behind. I would watch a drama just revolving on the husband and father trying to get to know his family.

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It is not that surprising that Ha-kyung and Shi-woo so quickly developed feelings for each other- Both were suddenly and brutally ejected from their long-term relationships. They share that as a common bond. Both were completely vulnerable- but the good news is they were equally vulnerable and susceptible to each other. This is not really a bad starting place. Dramatically this actually makes sense, even if in reality this is not a wise way to go.

Is Ha-kyung an idiot for dating another co-worker- of course and she knows it- we see her telling herself "This is Crazy"- which of course it is. But sometimes crazy works. More often it does not- but maybe this time it will. That is the central core question that will be answered as this show unfolds.

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Yes, that makes sense. In real life, how often do we fall for someone for no rhyme or reason…at least for me LOL

Always been curious…is it really ok in Korea to date your direct subordinate?? Thought it’s a definite no-no in a lot of countries. Different departments or same level colleagues or no direct reporting line are ok.

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For definitive answer as to whether dating a subordinate in Korea I would have to rely upon someone from Korea who knows to give the answer- but from what we have seen in dramas the answer is no- and in fact this is why our FL has sternly told our ML that if the office discovers this they have to breakup.

But, just as in other places, it happens. In real life. Part of the plot has to revolve around that very issue- it is unavoidable.

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I think that more important question is, should it? Even if it’s common in any country, should the depiction in pop media “rom-com” genre normalize the superior-subordinate dating in office environment with its inherently unequal power dynamic?

K-drama is a fantasy, I get it. An escape. But I worry if girls have a hard time nowadays separating a fantasy from a messy reality, disabling them of an ability to make good decisions for them.

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As a lawyer my answer is an unequivocal "it should not" but as an old lawyer my next response "but it happens anyway even when it should not". Does portraying the situation normalize it- (in the sense of approval)? Not when the show is honestly and explicitly showing the dangers and problems inherent in the situation. Will that be that be case in this show? We do not know that yet.

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We are loving this show. This drama does NOT follow the usual arc for a Korean rom-com or noona romance-- no waiting until the end of episode 8 for a kiss. Instead, our messy romance is already underway with a full appreciation of all the problems inherent in this situation - the workplace and the exes and all, including the weather. Another beanie observed that the weather itself is a character in this story- an additional antagonist in our drama.

There is a lot of potential for this story. I hope that the writer can deliver on it.

My wife and I are both looking forward to the next episodes.

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I’m fully on-board as well. All of the work friction seems wholly reasonable to me, not shoehorned-in crises that are metaphors for relationships. It turns out the spokesman is actually lazy at most of his job and coasting on charm. His reporter wife let her editor roll her, and then got carried away with a gotcha article without truly understanding the context or the person she was going up against. And Ha Kyung blistered them both, as she should. For me, none of that was unprofessional and in fact made it clear that the real ace in this scenario is Ha Kyung.

And I was straight-up delighted that the entire fourth episode was a fake-out. I’ve got mixed feelings about dating a subordinate (and am unclear on exactly HOW subordinate he is) but I love that it all clicked together in that final scene.

I was very worried at the start that the gifted weather genius would be teaching the fumbling director how to do her job, but this week defused that concern. I’m in for more.

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Exactly, for me Hakyung is the Queen 💕

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That is how my wife and I see her as well- not a weak Princess but a powerful Queen. And I think that the writer may actually see it that way too- and may be part of what ultimately caused the male lead to stray- he felt inadequate next to her because he knew he was not really her equal. Episode 4 made it quite clear that he does not feel that way towards his wife.

Meanwhile our male lead is an intuitive genius but also something analogous to the boots-on-the ground geologist that Alluvial Fan described in the comments above- he will pick up the phone and talk to someone at the location and simply ask what they see. He sees himself as Hakyung or anyone else's equal in their field. And he sees her as the woman he wants. That combination makes him exactly the man she needs.

Just because he is what she needs does not mean that there will be no problems. Good romance or romcom dramas are all built on this one simple truth: There is no such thing as a perfect match. There will always be differences which must be dealt with either through compromise or simple acceptance and respect. Much of the plot will revolve around how the couple deals with those differences as well as dealing with the external challenges to their love.

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Same here, Old Lawyer. My daughter could not get into it, but maybe because I've observed more relationships over the years, good bad and ugly, it didn't look cute and unrealistic (for the happy couple) or over-the-top nasty (for our unhappy couple) - I've seen these sorts of relationships before so I can believe them and wonder where show will take them... and if it is to the same places that the real-life examples I can think of went to.

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I was on the fence with the premiere episodes and almost dropped it, especially because of Song Kang whose performance was underwhelming in my opinion. But with these episodes, I think it's actually not bad at all and I am actually enjoying it. I too think it's because it does not follow the normal kdrama setup. It reminded me a lot of " sunbae, don't put that lipstick on" in the premise. Looking forward to more!

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I feel the opposite! While 25 21 is just fine and deep and has feels, the setup and NJHs pain I’ve seen before. I will keep watching but not necessarily look forward to weekly. Even if it’s well acted. It’s just slow and I’m waiting for them to grow up!

On the other hand, you’re right the weather analogy tries so so so hard. I have to constantly work my brain to think what it is they’re trying to make a parallel to. And all the weather talk is YAWN.

But I liked this week’s reveal at the end. Plus again this is more mature than most romcoms and Song Kangs character is refreshingly straightforward about the relationship so it’s not a whole drama or how will they get together. Thank goodness.

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This is the first time I feel soooo differently about a show than @missvictrix ... and my heart bleeds 💔 (*grabs a bottle of soju*)

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The pace is way too fast for me.

Ha-Kyung dated Ki-Jun for 10 years and was ready for marriage. Her relationship with Si-Woo looks more like a rebound relationship that won't last than a deep one that can last for me.

They already have feelings for each other? Based on what? Except the pain they felt. They don't know each other since a long time.

I'm not fan of the way their personal relationship acts on their professional one. Si-Woo already had issues with hierarchy and following rules, now he had some with personnal space...

I don't understand Dong-Han and his wife. How they could decide to marry and have a kid and then thinking living apart during 14 years was a good idea? They lived in the same country, Korea is not so big... they coul easily see each other the weekends... The wife is just as guilty as him.

The second leads are boring...

I like the meteo theme, its' interesting. But they made it too dramatic. I mean why she should think that the little boats will follow the big ones? It's not her responsability.

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This drama has sprinkled its magic dust on me and I am completely enamored by it. Which is quite a surprised because I was rooting for 2521 and 39 more, and ended up completely charmed by the drama that I have no expectation whatsoever.

What I like about the drama:
- the interweaving of weathering and the characters personal and love life. Like when the show basically bait us for almost the whole of episode 4 to show that it's probably just a matter of visibility during the reveal. In fact, I never would have expected to fall in love so much on the weathering part. I cannot wait to see what are in store for the audience on this.
- the office is not just a place to have people met and fall in love. I like how much we have scenes of people actually working. It always bemused me when office romance dont really have much of the "office". Here the office is just not a backdrop, but it is part of what makes our characters tick. Because how can it not be when modern human spend so much of our time in workplace instead of at home?
- I kinda love the chemistry? It's both sexy and cute? I have never watched a Song Kang drama before, so I came to this drama blind and so far I am liking his performance despite all the naysayers saying how crappy of an actor he is. Park Min Young is Park Min Young, so I never doubt that she can squeeze a chemistry with her co-stars.

So here I am offering prayers to drama Gods to keep the pacing and main theme consistent throughout the whole runs. I am ready for the fickleness of weather and love. Bring it on!

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I agree! Not to be a Debbie Downer, but I had higher hopes for 25-21 and 39, which I'm dropping because I feel almost exactly as you do.

Forecast is a second show where I find myself watching the episodes again. One reason is I don't understand Korean. But the main reason is how each episode is weaved into or explains the title of the episode. I think it's super clever.

As far as relationships are concerned, one of the commenters said that being a little older, you've either seen it or experienced it. Personally, I've dated an older woman (noona, if you will); been in an inter-racial relationship; and met and proposed to my (now) wife after 3 months. "Love" is hard to explain. I can definitely relate to the noona/superior-subordinate, on-the-rebound relationships in this Show.

It's slowly making its way to the top of my list. Hopefully, the ending won't disappoint me like IOTNBO.

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Ever since Jealousy Incarnate Kwon Hae-hyo is my favourite office manager character, I like how he leads his team here as well.

I dislike Dong-han and his wife and daughter equally, they really have given up on each other a long time ago. At least he is starting to understand after some good advice and I think the family will grow together again. They all have to put in much more effort for this to happen.

I like the confidence and straight forwardness of our Severe weather forecaster, but I do fear that he is relying a little bit too much on his hunch and will get it badly wrong one day, bringing down his beloved director.

As a couple I think that they are actually quite a good match with similar work ethics. This is where they do trust each other the most and they looked good working together on the fog forecast report. I also like that they talk openly about their relationship and the issues around it. Dramaland plots rely too often on people not saying things out loud. But having to keep it a secret is not a good basis for a relationship.

Mum signing up her daughter for a dating agency without asking is not good and I am very pleased that daughter packed her things and left. The mother should have listened to her other daughter's good advice and criticism that she does not do this to help, but because she fears loosing face in front of others.

Can the exes be any more awful and useless?

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I love PMY, but I don't like this drama. All the men patronize her except surprisingly her boss. It is annoying. Instead of making her look competent, it comes off as indecisive. They also have a habit of people saying she is competent without showing. It is annoying. There needs to be balance and it isn't there for me, so I am out.

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Thank you.

She's matured yes, and she weighs her pros and cons before making a statement, which as we have seen is the final decision they always go with. But they haven't shown her actually pulling her own weight. It won't be wrong if she they actually show her coming to the same conclusions he comes to before he does. They can borrow a leaf from Romance is a Bonus Book.

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I have to disagree because the show reiterates every episode that when it comes to weather there are numerous possibilities due to the different variables that it is necessary to have a thorough discussion to decide and not conclude matters in a hurry. So, I don't see how they can show Ha Kyung reaching the same conclusion as the ML or others. Also, in general there is this wide discontent when a senior is shown to decide based on opinions of the juniors. A person's higher position doesn't always guarentee correct judgement, so it is good that she is shown to be relying on her teammates, but still gets to make the final call.

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Did she get to the point she is today through incorrect judgment? The best thing they can do is follow up on that. They want to assert the fact that he knows his onions, fine and good; just not at the expense of making Ha Kyung appear clueless or making a string of bad decisions. Romance is a Bonus Book handled this plot device very very well.

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I understand that there needs to be discussion, but she has been loudly wrong twice. It is possible in future episodes they will show her being correct about something and not being shown up, but in the episodes we have seen, most of her decisions have consisted of wait and see. If they had shown her to be correct in her forecasting and still discussing the variances of weather, I wouldn't have found everyone so patronizing.

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' If they had shown her to be correct in her forecasting and still discussing the variances of weather, I wouldn't have found everyone so patronizing'.

Correct. The show does this and my grievance will be lifted. It doesn't make me not enjoy the show, but I just can't stomach it whenever such a scene comes up nor bring myself to using the fast-forward button should it arise.

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I'm a mathematician (with also a degree in applied statistics) and for me the weather forecasting is one of the most interesting parts of the show and I can totally understand their watching the screens, looking for trends... and discussing some magical 5% level 😁 I also find that postponing decisions (to allow to see the trend evolving) often is a very responsible decision and my general feeling about Hakyung is that she is very competent. (She still has to learn to be a good leader (and the other Senior Forecaster gave her a lesson about that), but I think she is on a good way.)

I also would like to mention that among mathematicians there often is much less seniority / hirearchy and at my departement at college we could ask any questions during the lectures and often had equal discussions (I was later shocked when I realised that that is not a norm at other faculties). Thus for me Shiwoo is a *normal* scientist with passion for his speciality. He of course needs to learn to see also things outside his focus (I also had to learn to see beyond my statistical models), but that's a normal journey for a young scientist and that is also why he is at the headquarters.

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Love the *normal* label.
Fresh PhDs are so cute! Each and every one thinks they will rewrite the text book in their own specialty. The writers have managed to capture the patient weariness of more seasoned scientists during discussions with younger, highly opinionated, colleagues. I am impressed.

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I went into the show with pretty low expectations, even as a casual PMY fan, because I wasn't convinced of the chemistry in the teasers. I'm really liking it so far. I love the whole set-up of science nerds working in a field with immediate public impact and I love that the show gets into the details of the work. It's made me appreciate meteorologists a lot more.

Like another poster here, this just might be my favorite PMY office worker character. The chemistry works well enough for me and I appreciate that the leads are straightforward with each other so far. I hope SK's character gets some development soon; being the infallible weather genius and perfect boyfriend can get boring fast.

I don't really care for the other story lines though, the second lead couple's and the senior forecaster's, so I just fast forward through their scenes, oops. And I'm not sure how the show can keep it interesting for 10+ more episodes. So I'm not raising my expectations but will keep watching as long as it interests me.

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Last time I thought, " Okay that was a very speedy recap" because I din't pay attention to the recapper name, but today I did notice the recapper name and now it all makes sense😅😅
It bad that you aren't enjoying the workplace arguments or the weather jargons, but I hope you will continue to post atleast a discussion thread, if you aren't willing to weecap because I loved reading comments from @jossie4cheryl and @dorotka. They were brilliant.

I was suprised by the end of Ep. 4 because I wasn't expecting them to secretly date and wasn't fond of the One Night Stand to reinforce their attraction, but I am now fully onboard their romance. It is no joke that Park Min Young can have chemistry even with a log😂😂 I wasn't a fan of Song Kang's acting but he is doing a decent job here and was so cute when he winked😍

The drama is going the route of a leader isn't born but, is shaped by the team by showing us that Ha Kyung maybe a competent professional who has ousted Senior Forecaster Eom Dong Han and Oh Myung Joo in getting the director role, but as a manager she still needs a lot to learn. This is the reason the drama is yet to show Ha Kyung in action when we already know from her confrontation with Chae Yoo Jin and from her other workers that she is smart. I don't think the drama is disparaging the female lead and highlighting the male lead as a prodigy. We are only 4 episodes in to assume that she is being dominated by her male workers because the show has done a credible job in portraying a realistic workplace.

Also, I am really in awe of all the weather analogy used by the drama for real life.

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@missvictrix Great wee-cap! I'm enjoying this drama so far, but am excited to get away from the foursome drama. Hopefully the next couple of episodes will help with that. I laughed when I read your snow squall comment from this weekend. I live in the northeast and I got the same message! I didn't actually know what that was so I had to look it up on google haha. Hope you are enjoying the couple of days of nice weather!

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@sojuanju Yes, same on the northeast! *waves* Funny enough we didn't actually get the squall but I've driven through one before and it was crazy!

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Did I imagine that at the beginning we learned that Shi-woo is a farmer's son. From the beginning, I've assumed that much of his "instinct" for the weather comes from this, at least as much as from his "genius". If so, then his instinct and his research combine and that's why he has respect for and consults people "on the ground ".

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The second couple just deserve each other as far as I’m concerned and I’m also tired of such a nose-in-daughter’s-business Mom, she’s been way too intrusive since the very beginning with the wedding plans.
But, as usual, my main interest in this show is with The Weather. These episodes really smacked me in the face with how much The Weather is a stand in for COVID. The scientists analyze the data (and can’t even agree on what it means), have to make decisions that cause real world ramifications keeping people and property safe, and then deal with the fallout. In this case, the fishermen are livid that their livelihoods are stopped outside of their own control (like in lockdown) and would risk their lives instead. The Coast Guard (medical community) has to concern itself with its ability to save those who would take the risk and go onto the sea. The “government” (spokesman’s office) has to bear the abuse while holding the line on the science and reminding the scientists of the damage being done in the real world. It’s very interesting.

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Late to the party. @missvictrix you wrote, “someone give the location scout a raise!” for the scenes in the alley outside the restaurant. Totally agree. The greenery and lighting were lovely.
I looked up the restaurant where Ha-kyung and Shi-woo were having dinner when their colleagues arrived. Thanks to the neon sign I found this item about the Old Mullae restaurant in our beanie @Mich’s great website:
https://koreandramaland.com/listings/old-mullae/
(As you can see it has been used in a number of dramas)

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