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[Drama chat] Came for the oppa, stayed for the story


All sorts of factors go into determining a drama’s potential appeal, but one of the strongest is definitely the cast. I know I’m not the only one who’s tuned into a drama merely because my current favorite oppa was appearing.

One such case was Kim Jae-young in the Kim Sun-ah vehicle Secret Boutique. I probably wouldn’t have given the drama much attention if he wasn’t in it, but I’m so glad I did, because I really enjoyed it through and through — story, characters, tone, etc.

“Came for the oppa, stayed for the oppa only” is probably a more common occurrence — i.e., only oppa can keep you watching — but sometimes we can be pleasantly surprised.
 

Name a drama where you came for the oppa, but then stayed for the story.

 
Let the chatting begin!
 
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Most of my drama choices if not all are cast-based or recap-based. To name two...

...Lee Seo-jin : Marriage Contract. I had just finished Times and I just had to watch something with him inside. I remember a beanie say he was in Marriage Contract. Since the drama was already on my radar, I watched it and ended up staying also for the story.

Second is Yoo Jae Myung : Vincenzo.

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My current favorite oppa is Park Seung-geun from Memorials: I still fell in love with this handsome, beautiful oppa guy. Then he's on Private Lives and on On the Verge of Insanity.

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Did you watch Forest of Secrets? He’s in both seasons.

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Yeah he has such a good role in both seasons.

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Hahaha, happy to see Kim Jae Young's face. He was also my draw towards Secret Boutique. XD

Recently, it was Kim Dong Wook in King of Pigs. I saw the creepy, scary posters, but I didn't care. I did not know how bloody or violent it would be, I was going to watch it for him. Maybe due to the years of watching crime dramas, I handled the violence ok. The whole story was brutal, tragic, and gripping to the end.

I checked out Through The Darkness because of Kim Nam Gil. I wasn't sure of the tone and how this crime/mystery drama would be, but it was excellent. Subtle, thought-provoking. A slower pace than the typical ones.

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I didn't watch Through the Darkness because of Kim Nam-gil, but the show certainly caused him to rise in my estimation.

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Reply 1988: I had started 1994 and could not get into it so decided to avoid the series but then found out Park Bogum was in 1988 so gave it a go and the rest as they say is history. It’s one of my top 5 dramas.

The Producers: i was looking for dramas Kim Soohyun had been in that I hadn’t seen and that one came up. I loved it from episode one it’s my sort of humour. At one point, a male idol was running around being helpful and Cindy asked him why and he said, when he was a rookie they gave him the nice boy concept and now he is stuck with it because he didn’t know any better at the time! I immediately thought of Park Bogum! He did a cameo appearance hosting Music Bank.

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Lol I started watching The Producers because I knew it had a Lee Seung Gi cameo in it and it seemed pretty good on paper. It wasn’t for me (or at least not at that time) so I gave up after the first couple of episodes and just watched the cameo bit 😂🙈 I guess that’s coming for the oppa but not staying 😅

I wonder if I would enjoy it more now I’ve watched a lot more variety shows.

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I do think variety shows are an acquired taste and have not watched one all the way through. I have watched clips of The return of Superman with the triplets as that kept showing on suggestions on YouTube but it didn’t make sense as a premise for a show hidden cameras in a house to show a dad looking after his own children while his wife was out the home! That’s just normal parenting😐 Is a dad looking after his own children seriously worth filming?

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I guess if it normalizes Dads looking after their kids, it’s good? There are a lot of observational type variety shows where it’s just celebrities going about their ordinary (as staged for tv) lives, like I Live Alone which can be quite fun. My sister watches them more than me so I tend to watch things she puts me on to rather than finding them myself

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It may not make sense to glorify a dad doing what he’s supposed to do and there’s also the question of invading the kids’ privacy but i think one positive is the wealth of experience and opportunities dad n kids get to do together because of the show.

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Well, if you are making a variety show for a country that has one of the lowest birth rates in the world it probably does make sense.
They are trying to show aspirational people doing something they want to encourage.
(And attitudes to the distribution of parenting duties are still very unequal so even if it seems normal to some I still hear people refer to dads "babysitting" their kids... )

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I know, when I was in a social work office I heard two social workers who were dad’s talking and one said to the other that he had helped his wife with the children that morning. I was outraged that he was someone who could make life changing decisions about whether someone was a good enough parent to keep looking after their child and yet he clearly thought his ‘helping out’ was optimised parenting.😡

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I think that context is so important and like you said if it leads to changing attitudes then it is doing an important service. A lot of the time parenting programmes are focused on problems so this is a different angle and the fact the people on the show are famous will get people to watch who wouldn’t normally be interested. I guess I was influenced by the title of the show as it implies that this is a massive achievement. Maybe it has a different meaning the Korean context as I still have not found an explanation for the name.

Have you read the book or seen the film: Kim Ji Young: Born 1982
That is an excellent example of the way attitudes seep into the general psyche. The office workers’ attitudes towards mothers clearly stating their lack of contribution to society. Her mother in law and her husband had completely different approaches to ‘helping’ his wife. I think the issues of gender roles across life stages within families and society was explored really well in this story.

Several K dramas have spoken about how hard it is to be a parent in Korea because of the very long working hours, childcare costs and impact on women’s careers. These are fairly universal issues in so many countries.😒

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I watched the drama for Kim soohyun and gong hyo jin and I loved the producers so much. I watch everything gong hyo Jin acts in.

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Let's just say it's not the oppas that attract me to specific dramas. There are so many non-oppas to watch that I mostly decide what shows to start based on the plot description, the writer's & PD's track records, and simply how much free time I have that day.

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A Piece of Your Mind only for Jung Hae-in. The premise didn't sound super-appealing, but then I really enjoyed the story and the side characters - except for Lee Ha-na as Soon-ho. I have never felt such contempt for a drama character as I did for her by the end, but it was still worth watching overall.

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I guess I will sit this one out. I never have a "current favorite oppa". I just add actors to my "good actors list", and they might in time upgrade to "favorites list". And yes, I do choose dramas based on the cast, but I won't finish a bad show for one actor. So, anyway, that's it.

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Good for you. After I watch a drama with a good actor, I fangirl and look for every drama and I binge it until I'm there waiting for their next project.

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I experienced this twice with Namgoong Min's projects: Chief Kim and Hot Stove League.
I didn't expect Chief Kim to be so funny considered comedy dramas have never fit my style. But i think Stove League is a perfect example in this category for me. I know nothing about baseball and only came solely for Namgoong Min. One of my best decision because it's now on my top 10 favorite dramas

Move to Heaven also fits because i came for Lee Jehoon but fell in love with the story. I cried a lot but it's a good one

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I 2nd this! I was exactly the same with these dramas!

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Ditto on Hot Stove League. Started Chief Kim for Namgoong Min but finihed it for Junho!

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I have far more unnis I'll start a show for than I do oppas but to keep in theme I'll freely admit that I started Human Disqualification for Ryu Joon-Yeol's luscious locks and then just... stayed.

I'm not a melo fan generally but dayuum did this drama strike a chord in me. It was slow moving but the characters were both so emotional yet vacant at the same time and watching them make tiny spaces for each other really was just a marvel to watch.

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I was thinking of watching Money Heist Korea because Kim Ji Hoon looks gooood with long hair, so I feel you.

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Alchemy of Souls, although halfway through 3 and not entirely sure I’m staying.

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ITA with this, although it was specifically not the oppas that brought me to this one, it was Jung So-Min... but i'm also not sure I'm staying, it needs to get better quickly or I'm going to be out. I think I slept through half of the last episode...

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After watching our first few dramas (tabong+family) we searched for other shows starring the actors and actresses we liked. For example, Love Story in Harvard (we came for Kim Tae Hee unnie but stayed for the story).

But when I started to watch dramas alone I just watched anything. I like almost any genre, so I don't read synopsis or search the cast. BUT when it comes to my favorite oppas and unnies it's totally different. I say I'll watch the show for my oppa/unnie even if it isn't true. LOL

I was going to watch this new show with Eun Bin unnie (lawyer something) just because and then I saw a poster with Ki Young oppa in it and I was like "omg oppa is back, I'm so going to watch this show" as if it was the first time I heard about the show or something 😂
One time I was rewatching W and I saw Ki Young oppa and I was like like "omo, he's in this show? good thing I'm rewatching it". Same thing happened with Master's Sun. I didn't remember Seo In Guk was there. LOL
But...

After Flower Boy Next Door I feel in love with Yoon Si Yoon, so I watched The Best Hit (Tabong!!), Psychopath Diary, Romance full of Life, Train and It's Beautiful Now. I would've watched those shows even without him, but I got more excited of watching them because of oppa. Same with IG and KY.

I fell for In Guk after Hello Monster, then I watched Shopping Wang Louie and Squad 38. I totally recommend these shows btw.

Kang Ki Young oppa was love at first laugh. I watched Oh My Ghostess because of Seul Gi unnie, but after that show I became a hardcore Ki Young fan. Uri oppa really knows how to pick projects: Terius, Tunnel, At 18, W, and WFKim Bok Joo are such good shows!

I also have a "stayed for the oppa (only for the oppa)" experience. I finished Let's Fight Ghost only for him and David (Chong Ran x In Rang) the second half of the show I didn't care about the leads, only the bromance.

Oh, I did watch a variety show because of him and only him, tho.
It was fun! Ki Young oppa is hilarious.

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I also watched Psychopath Diary because of the actors, but in my case it was for Park Sung Hoon, because I got a huge crush on him and Nana in Memorials/ Into the Circle. Long story short, I also fell for Yoon Si Yoon, who led me into watching Nokdu Flower, which I also really liked. The duality of YSY! He's so funny, but then he really makes me feel his pain

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Oh, yes. Park Sung Hoon was super cute in Memorials and Psychopath Diary.

Ikr? YSY is the best!

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Technically not Oppa as I refused to have an Oppa, I just prefer some actors over others. Here are few.
D.P.: I started the drama because of Jung Hae in and stayed for everything else even though subject matter is not my cup of tea. I tend to avoid violence and torture. It is not happy ending, you left unsettled and that’s what drama wanted and it makes 6 hours spent watching it feel worthwhile.
Happiness: Started for Park Hyung Sik. I did not even watch the trailer so I had no idea what I was getting into. If I knew, I would have never started it. Pre-covid I would have never believed in the story but only after living through Covid, I could digest it. I was not keen on living it through drama second time but drama made me do it.
I will find you on beautiful day: I started this one for Park Min-young and Seo kang jun but stayed for story and the atmosphere. Drama about winter never felt so warm.

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I will find you on a beautiful day captured the small town feel and has the perfect instrumental soundtrack for relaxing when sitting in traffic or working on boring tasks. I still visualise the round up as the various characters head over for the book club and the town getting ready for an annual event when I hear both those tunes.

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Exactly the same for Happiness - came to see PHS's post-military project and fell in love with the drama. It's an absolute gem!

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Most things with Lee Jong-seok... Romance is a Bonus Book blew me away - it's probably my favourite drama - but I pressed play because of him. (And W / I Can Hear Your Voice both pleasantly surprised me)
Hospital Playlist - the perfect cast was what drew me in.
Also 25-21. Not going to lie, I was there for Nam Joo-hyuk to begin with. Still kind of am. TT_TT

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Variety show rather than drama, but I watched Busted 2 because of Lee Seung Gi. However not even LSG was enough to make me finish Busted 3 😅

I quite often will pick something straight away after up by the same actor if I liked them in something - eg I watched part of Doom at Your Service and wanted to see more of Seo In Guk so I watched Hello Monster (which was excellent) and Shopping King Louis (which took too long to get going and was about two episodes too long for the story at the end, but was good in the middle).

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Most of my drama choices are based on writer and story first, then the director and personal taste or interest, and THEN cast, and it becomes a combination of how many of these different boxes it checks that make it a watch or avoid.
Or else the choice is random, or based on external factors (boredom, need something to watch, etc) and doesnt follow a hard rule.
Much more like @lordcobol in that regard.

I'm genuinely trying to think of something I only started for the cast check box but ended up liking the story of anyway... Usually it's the opposite: I start for the cast alone, a weak start by my normal watch factors, and predictably, the story is terrible and I hate watch or drop; cast is rarely, if ever, enough alone for me to keep watching.
(Masochism on the other hand... 🙄)

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Never have, never will

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There isn’t a single drama you checked out mainly for the actor/cast and ended up enjoying?

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I'm being semi-facetious around the word 'Oppa'. I call no man Oppa.

But, yes, I take into account cast when choosing a show but I don't think I've ever started a show just because of the cast without also looking at the writer, premise and genre. Except for that unfortunate period around 2017 and 2018 when I watched literally everything and became a burned out mess.

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After writing my comment above, I went back through all the dramas I actually liked and loved over the past 5 years, and I think the only drama that maybe fits this criteria for me, is Secret Lyfe of My Secretary, which I started for Kim Young Kwang.
One (1) drama...

*Filed under Chat Topics not designed for Sic Number 2*

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I wouldn’t literally use the word Oppa either 😅 but there are some actors/actresses I will try dramas without looking into it further first - in fact, I generally find if I look into a drama too much I’m not that interested by the time I actually get the chance to watch it.

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I call no man Oppa 😂 I'd like to know how to embroider just to hang this one on my wall

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I am in your corner on this Dame Judy. In my early kdrama days I operated on a foolish rule of ‘start a drama, end a drama’. Finally in March of 2018 I dropped my first kdrama because of unintelligible subtitling (CHILDREN OF A LESSER GOD). Oh what a relief! I am not a serial starter/dropper and I am kind of choosey but I stuck with some in the early days that should have been drops.
So I really can’t think of a drama that fits the above criteria rather the contrary. I stuck with two stinkers (one last year—DARK HOLE and one this year—A SUPERIOR DAY for Lee Joon-hyuk (1984) and Jin Goo respectively). They both owed me one. LJH paid me back with SRI&J. I am waiting on Jin Goo.

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Oop. Your comment made me realize there is a word "oppa" in the title😅
It also feels weird for me to call any of these actors oppa or eonni. Maybe because sometimes dramas utilize those two words for cute or chessy scenes?

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Gong Yoo & Park Seojoon were the first leading men I encountered at the beginning of my kdrama journey (with Goblin being the first drama I ever watched and Secretary Kim being the third) so I went into both Coffee Prince and Fight for My Way purely because I couldn't get enough either of them but I ended up falling head over heels for the cast & story.

More recently the case for me has been 'went in for the oppa, ended up discovering & staying for another one instead' - watched Extraordinary You for Rowoon but stayed for Lee Jaewook, same with 30 but 17 (AHS was the hook, but Lee Dohyun became the anchor) and King The Eternal Monarch (sorry LMH but Woo Dohwan had my ALL of my attention).

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Ha! I got interested in Extraordinary You because Kim Young-dae was in it (while knowing ahead of time that he only had a smallish role) and I liked him in Sh**ting Stars, and I also stayed for Lee Jae-wook - and the rest of the cast, the story, and the visuals. But KYD or no KYD, I probably wouldn't have started watching it if the storyline and the reviews here weren't pluses, so I can't say it was "just for oppa" (snort). Like @leetennant, there's no way I'd ever think of anyone as "oppa."

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KYD is a gem, I also ended up being a fan because of Extraordinary You (so vice versa of your situation) - but also very true about reviews etc being an important factor in deciding to watch bc same. Tbh being totally honest, there was only one time I watched something bc of an actor/actress, despite the poor reviews, and that was Melting Me Softly because I'm a big JCW and WJA fan - lesson learned though because my love for them BARELY got me through, and it wasn't without lots of fast forwarding and eye twitching.

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I am now intrigued what was wrong with Melting me softly? I have watched the trailers and it looks like a light hearted average drama.

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I'm pretty sure that everything was wrong... The story didn't make sense, the humor didn't work and even the actors couldn't save the drama.

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🤣🤣🤣 Thank you. It sounds like one you start watching and slowly realise it’s not going to get any better so best to walk away early.

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@kurama summarised it well - it felt like the show was trying to pull of multiple genres and plot points and just failed on all fronts sadly. I should've definitely walked away early but sometimes its hard to look away from a burning wreck hahahaha

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I’m kind of curious to watch it because everyone says it is so bad 😅 unfortunately I generally find the male lead hard to watch at the best of times (I’m not sure why, I’m sure he’s very nice but I find him very irritating for no good reason) so there is not even that to redeem it.

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or just keep watching to claim you made it through it and then feel like oh that was it why did i waste my time

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Son Sukku in My Liberation Notes : I love everything in this drama. He picked a really good drama
Choi woosik in Our Beloved Summer : same reason.

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The first drama I watched because of the "oppa" (I am much older than him so he is not my oppa per se) was Pinocchio because I liked Lee Jong-suk in I can hear your voice. The first drama I watched because of the "unnie" was I Do, I Do (I loved Kim Sun-a in My Lovely Sam Soon) but in this case I definitely did not stay for the story...

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I love Kim Sun Ah but she has had some darn bad dramas 🙁

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It's a hard and kinda weird question.

There are a lot of dramas I started for the actors and I didn't like but still watched till the end. But the question is more about starting a drama for an actor and liking it until the end and there are a lot of them too. But being more immersed in the story than the actors, I think there was Tomorrow, the actors being just a string to connect the different stories.

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Started watching Yumi's Cells season 2 just for Jin Young. Turns out the drama's got such a fun narration style and story. In fact, I did not watch season 1 because didn't find the male lead there too appealing. Shallow and proud! :P

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Oh man so many!

1. Because this is my first life: can’t for Lee min Ki, stayed and rewatch every year due to story and everything else in this drama!
2. Be melo: came to see ahn jae hyun in a lead role and stayed for the story AND him!
3. Move to heaven and taxi driver: came for Lee hee joon and stayed for the stories and absolutely gobsmacking execution!
3. Hospital playlist: came for yoo yeon suk and jo jung suk, stayed for chae song hwa and her best friends and the stories!

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Yes to Move to Heaven! I remember reading the synopsis and thinking "hell, no" because it sounded so depressing. But, LJH. I warched it over a weekend and really loved MTH. Its very sad but at the same time uplifting, I don'tknow how kdramas manage to do this.
Also really liked Taxi Driver and LJH having lots of fun with his undercover missions, but at some point I felt that the drama changed tone too drastically. Still, I stayed almost until the end!

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That would be DP - for Jung Hae In - and Military Prosecuter Doberman for Ahn Bo Hyun, and also for pretty Jo Bo Ah kicking ass!
I don't usually gravitate toward military dramas, so I tuned in just because of the cast and I really liked both dramas. Especially D.P., one of last year's best, imo

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Agreed. I love all of them plus both dramas were amazing. One more darker than the other.

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Seo Kang joon!
I first saw him in When the Weather is Fine and while it was airing, I managed to watch Watcher (awesome Police thriller), Are you a robot too (very fluff, much fun). Oh, SKJ will be forever be credited with helping me make it through our long and strict Covid confinement...
A bit later I also watched The third charm (SKJ hanging out in my birth city! I dived in so happily not knowing I was in for a world of pain), and Cheese in the trap (the Baek siblings were the highlight of the drama). Currently I have Grid on hold because availability is hard, but I was finding it ok

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That would be this years Through the darkness starring Kim Nam Gil. I love that Oppa to bits and couldn’t resist at least trying out his drama out of loyalty to him. So glad the story was just as gripping, well written and thought provoking.

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I wouldn't call them oppas or unnis who make me watch some kdramas, but it's mostly the actors that roped me in, at least in the beginning of my kdrama-watching-journey. When I stumbled upon my first one, "Signal", I was intrigued by the story and didn't find anything else to watch so I gave it a try. I binged through this very fast and was blown away by - everything. Storytelling, language, culture, everything was new to me. But I wanted more! But I knew nothing at that time about kdrama, so I had to start somewhere, and that's often the actors. So after Signal I looked up Kim Hye-Su's dramas and found Hyena which I loved (and still do). Hyena introduced me to Ju Ji-Hoon, so Kingdom was next (I usually don't like zombie shows, but this one worked for me). After that I remembered Lee Je Hoon at some point and voila, "Move to Heaven". For me that's just a way of working myself through the kdrama-landscape - take your favourite actresses and actors and look up their back catalog (or future projects), then one thing will automatically lead to the next. Temporary crushes do happen along the way, though...😉 But it works the other way rpund as well. By now I've watched a number of kdramas, and sometimes Icome across an actress or actor who just doesn't work for me. So when they're in a drama I'm about to watch and I see them in the cast list I won't start it.

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Life: I came for Cho Seung Woo (not Lee Dong Wook).

Suits: I came for Park Hyung Sik.

But more often, I came for an actor but the story was not appealing enough to make me stay. Examples: almost everything Park Seo Joon is in, many things Wookie is in.

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Watched Prison Playbook and Life on Mars for my bias Jung Kyung Ho - and ended up falling utterly in love with the plot. ❤️❤️❤️
Heck, I could even say the same for Hospital Playlist - although for this one, it was for the 5 main leads and the writer-director combo. Still goes down as my favorite kdrama. Tbh, I still have to watch a JKH show that will disappoint me, 'coz even with One More Happy Ending and Falling for Innocence, I still look back with fondness. He really does know how to pick his projects. ^^

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Oy vey, is this title heteronormative or what? Why not came for unni, oppa, our KDrama person, stayed for the story (or the cinematography, OST, humour, hanboks, pinyeos and last but not least, squeezable child actors)?

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Glad that you pointed that out! The same thought crossed my mind, because there are many female actors I follow around Dramaland. Still, I guess DB-staff may be saving "came for unnie, and stayed for the story" for future threads 🙂

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I don't think you have to take to the first degree... It's just more about having a little bit unhealthy love for an actor/actress that made you try everything he/she does and instead falling for the story. I think the use of the word "oppa" just implies more than "unni" this little bit "obsessive" side of the fans

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It's pretty rare that I watch because of the cast but it has happened.

Legend of the Blue Sea for Jun Ji-hyun, coming off My Love From the Star. (That in turn led to Boys Over Flowers but that wasn't about wanting to see more Lee Min-ho, just the realisation is that it's a kind of reference point for so much in dramaland).

XX for Hani/Ahn Hee-young, coming off Idol: the Coup. Definitely glad of this as otherwise I wouldn't have heard of it. A second attempt with You Raise Me Up was less successful, though I stayed to the end.

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I've more commonly gone for the oppa but got driven away by the story. Case in point: at the height of my love for Cha Seung-won I started on Greatest Love. It was truly painful, especially after seeing him in films like Blood Rain and Murder Take One.

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Ha ha I’m like the reverse of you, I loved him in Greatest Love.

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The premise of Greatest Love - that there is a huge gulf between real person and public image - was incredibly promising, and I really liked the story of how Ae-jung, a perfectly nice, rather ordinary person, got stuck with an obnoxious persona that she was forced to play to the hilt in order to make a living. But the relationship between Ae-jung and Dokko Jin just brought out the worst in both characters. Their interactions were inane, infuriating and downright false. Never mind the shallow gestures and metaphors - there were also occasional hints of power imbalance and dubious consent.

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This is the point where I reprise last year's ode to Bloody Romance. I came for the utterly talented and charismatic Wang Duo and while his character was the most enchanting thing about the drama, there is nothing about the show that isn't awesomely executed.

But the actor I most commonly start dramas for if nothing else appeals is actress Bai Lu. She's just amazing.

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Think about it, I don't have one. Even my fave actor if he acts in medical drama or political/law heavy drama, it doesn't temp me to watch one, especially medical themed drama. And bad drama is bad drama even it has my favorite actors and actress.

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Six Flying Dragons - wanted to see more of Yoo Ah In and decided I will sit through a serious historical drama for him. Didn't expect to get so invested in the story but it was great.

Happiness - who would have thought I would enjoy a drama about zombies? Not me ever! But Park Hyung Sik reeled me in and I ended up liking this drama so much it earned a spot on my Top 10 Dramas list.

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I rarely watch only for actor and end up watching for story. alot of times when I watch for actor without considering behind the scene I end up dissapointing. But always pick up all the positive side despite I'm not enjoying it. but one that rare occasion I end up love the drama might be romantic dr 2. I avoid Medical drama like plague, but I watch It for Ahn Hyo Seop bcause I start loving his performances in Business Proposal. But I end up surprisingly love the drama. and to my surprise, no wonder i love it since the PD is Yo In Shik. The second drama I end up love it is the innocent man. I watch it for Song Joong Ki and end up loving it so much despite it's flaws. I end up becoming a fan of director work afterwards. That one rare occasion, but it's rare.

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Hmm, for me there are three dramas that qualify:

Park Seo Joon in Itaewon Class. I generally avoid IP dramas because of the drama of the original work's fans, but I came because of him and fell in love with the story.

Kim Soo Hyun in The Producers. I had just finished My Love From Another Star some months before and wanted to watch some other works he was in. This is the drama that introduced me to IU 😁

Le Je Hoon in Move to Heaven. It was truly an interesting watch.

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Queen Seon Deok. I started it for Kim Nam Gil (after watching him in Live up to your name) and I stayed for everything. It's a wonderful drama.

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