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Extraordinary Attorney Woo: Episodes 3-4

Extraordinary Attorney Woo  Episodes 3-4

There are ups and downs this week, and faced with the reality of her situation, our heroine stumbles. But she’s not one to stay on the ground for long, especially with the support system around her who are always there to help her find her footing.

 
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As Young-woo settles into things at work, more cases are assigned to her. And the first case of the week is a tragic one where a set of parents witness their younger son allegedly beating his older brother to death. The defendant, who is charged with bodily harm, is also on the spectrum – although he’s on the more severe end of it – and that’s one of the reasons Myeong-seok wants Young-woo on the case.

On questioning the defendant about the incident, he gets riled up and they can’t get through to him, so Young-woo borrows a page from her dad’s playbook. As a child, the only way her dad could effectively communicate with her was by using legal terms since she was very interested in the law. And since the defendant is the biggest Pengsoo fanboy, Young-woo figures that’s the best way to reach him.

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Along with Myeong-seok and Su-yeon, Young-woo gives a hilariously committed performance of the Pengsoo soundtrack at their next meeting with the defendant. And while he loved the performance, he gets riled up again when asked about the incident. But Young-woo suspects that the victim might have actually attempted suicide and what the parents witnessed was the defendant trying to save his brother and not assault him.

When Young-woo and Jun-ho set off to find evidence to support her claim, they run into an old classmate of Jun-ho’s, and we learn he volunteers at an organization for people with special needs. It’s probably why he’s so natural in his interactions with Young-woo; it’s almost as smooth as the unintentional waltz they dance, first exiting the revolving doors last week, and now searching for evidence in the victim’s bedroom.

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Young-woo and Jun-ho find evidence to prove the victim’s death was a suicide, but the parents vehemently refuse to acknowledge it. Apparently, they’d rather throw their innocent younger son under the bus than acknowledge that their older son killed himself because he was stressed out from the pressures of medical school. And since the parents have effectively placed their younger son in the crosshairs, netizens have a field day firing off at him, and other autistic people by extension. Sigh!

Even at court, the prosecutor brings up Young-woo’s autism in an attempt to discredit her as having a form of bias to the defendant since they’re both on the spectrum. Thanks to that, even when Young-woo figures out how they can get the defendant off the hook, his father still wants her off the case. And Young-woo sadly agrees that it’s for the best if she steps down from the case.

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But while she feels bad about it, Myeong-seok feels even worse and steps away from the case in solidarity. Another lawyer at the firm carries on with the proceedings, and the defendant gets off with a probation. But the feeling of inadequacy washes over Young-woo, and she decides to resign.

While I didn’t expect Young-woo to quit this early, I can understand why she did. She is pretty much adjusted to her life as someone with autism, but this case reemphasizes to her the weight of the disability she and other people on the spectrum bear. The weight, at this point, is almost too crushing considering how much she loves the law, and how the prejudice against her prevented her from serving as an attorney on this case.

So far, apart from the initial eyebrows raised by some of our major characters, they haven’t treated Young-woo any differently, and it’s easy to assume that everyone on the spectrum is in a similar situation. But I like that with this case, the drama showed us a different shade of the spectrum to remind us that not everyone gets as much consideration as Young-woo does, and neither are they all geniuses and as independent as she is.

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Although Young-woo has now resigned, she’s still not free from legal issues, as the father of her best friend, DONG GEU-RA-MI (Joo Hyun-young), is about to go into debt thanks to his conniving elder brothers. After getting compensation on land left to him by their father, his brothers deceived him into signing away the lion’s share of the money to them and left him to pay the inheritance tax all by himself – which is even more than the amount of money he got.

Young-woo offers to introduce her to another lawyer since she’s currently not practicing. But first, they need to get the gift contract Geu-ra-mi’s father signed for reference, so Young-woo, her dad, and Geu-ra-mi take a road trip to the countryside where Geu-ra-mi’s parents reside. On the trip, we learn that Young-woo and Geu-ra-mi became friends in high school after Geu-ra-mi stood up for Young-woo who was being bullied.

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To handle the case, Young-woo sends her friend to Myeong-seok, and then to Jun-ho when Geu-ra-mi doesn’t see Myeong-seok in the office. Young-woo describes Jun-ho as tall and good-looking, but Geu-ra-mi briefly mistakes him for Min-woo who she thinks is the good-looking one. Heh.

When Myeong-seok returns, he refuses to take the case because the chance of winning is low, but it’s really just a ploy to get Young-woo back in the office. And it works because Young-woo temporarily returns to take up the case! And while Jun-ho is so very happy about her return, Min-woo is not pleased and he takes it up with Myeong-seok, because he feels she’s being given special treatment. But Myeong-seok defends Young-woo and tells Min-woo to learn from her tenaciousness.

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The elder brothers deny deceiving Geu-ra-mi’s father in court, and the judge needs evidence to prove the contract was signed based on their deceit. Her mother remembers that a neighbor was around when the brothers brought the contract to Geu-ra-mi’s father, and they drive back to the countryside to ask if he overheard the conversation between the brothers. Luckily, the neighbor just so happened to be “retying his shoelaces” on the terrace and managed to listen in on the conversation. Lol.

Geu-ra-mi chooses to spend the night with her parents instead of returning to Seoul with Young-woo and Jun-ho in order to give them some “privacy.” And as they take in the sunset on a nearby beach, Jun-ho (who has been feeling bad about his old classmate mistaking Young-woo as one of the people he volunteers for) asks why Young-woo resigned.

She replies that while she’s working as attorney Woo Young-woo, it feels as if she’s just autistic Woo Young-woo in people’s eyes, and they’ll lose if she’s on their side. But Jun-ho tells her that he wants a lawyer like her on his side, and she’s touched.

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Unfortunately, the conniving elder brothers buy off the neighbor and at the next court appearance, he denies hearing the conversation. With no other evidence, Young-woo comes up with the very bright idea of Geu-ra-mi and her father provoking the elder brothers to the point of getting assaulted. As a result, they’re able to cancel the gift contract under a provision of the civil law that states that when the recipient commits a crime against the giver or his immediate family, the giver can cancel the gift contract.

And since there’s no evidence that the fight was incited, the judge approves the request and the contract is cancelled. Ha! The conniving elder brothers are not the only ones who can do away with evidence. Myeong-seok compliments Young-woo on her resourcefulness, and Min-woo (who is also present in court) seems to finally understand why Myeong-seok told him he could learn from Young-woo.

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After the contract is cancelled, the brothers come to apologize to Geu-ra-mi’s father who proves that he’s a better person than I am by forgiving them and agreeing to equally share the money with them. And with a successful resolution to the case, a happy Young-woo officially returns to Hanbada. Yaaay!

Young-woo must have been feeling pretty bummed out about her resignation, and I’m so glad she’s back. Jun-ho’s words on the beach must have reassured her that despite her autism, she’s a helpful lawyer to her clients, and combined with her subsequent win in Geu-ra-mi’s father’s case, I think she needed that validation.

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Jun-ho has been pretty intentional towards Young-woo, from little things like holding the elevator door for her, to being her whale discussion buddy, and the best part about it is that his actions are sincere and not out of pity. It’s the same for other characters like Myeong-seok, who respects and stands up for Young-woo’s professional abilities, and CEO Han who saw her potential and insisted she reapply to Hanbada after HR rejected her first application.

And I think that while Young-woo’s character is really lovable on her own, it’s also the patience and thoughtfulness of the other characters towards her that blends well with her charm to give us this warm-hearted and enjoyable drama.

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Junho's horrified face when WYW goes off about the evils of aquariums for the cetacean order, send tweet.

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I loved it!

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Woo Young Woo's ecstatic face at the giant photo print of the whale in the meeting room, and Junho's little look back at her, send tweet.

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I’m going to write a redundant comment and just say how much I love Park Eunbin’s acting! And, a less redundant comment. I think the other male attorney might be on the spectrum too but to a lesser extent or just be a somewhat toxic little turd.

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I don't believe Min woo is on the spectrum, or a turd. I think he is just frustrated that Young woo can get it and get is fast and accurate. Min soo and Young woo are on the same team, so they will be working together and there will be moments that I think will be played up for comic relief, but I just can't see Min soo going there and just being horrible to Young woo or his co workers. Jin ho, his roommate will not go for that.

I'm glad that the conversation with Myong-seuk went to way it did. It was tough without being insulting to either he or Young woo. You see why Myong-seuk is in the position that he is in and is good at it. Kang Ki young is very good in this role. We are so use to seeing him as comic relief, he also is showing his skills as playing the straight man.

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My poor heart is fighting for its life between Park Eunbin, Kang Taeoh and Kang Kiyoung - if I had hearts in my eyes for all of them in the first week, they’ve become full blown ultra bright neon hearts that are overflowing into just a tsunami of love. There’s this one scene in particular that I found myself playing over and over again - in episode 3 when Wooyoung and Junho are outside the door of Myeongseok’s office (post her conducting her little re-enactment in her office), and she does her usual counting thing before entering, Junho counts as well with her instinctively ahsdkhqwuehakjshdajkshdjkas 😍

I also love Geurami - her unapologetic sense of self and fierce love are ❤️ and I liked how they gave the brothers plot line a bit more depth at the end. I’ve seen a lot of that myself, with older relatives going at each other’s throats over inheritance/land fuelled by greed and it’s just a sad set of affairs. I know it’s never always a black & white situation and it’s not a given that you’ll be tight just because you’re from the same family etc, but it’s saddening all the same, the lengths some people are willing to go to just for money.

Because I’m at a loss for words after all the heart ache and the heart fluttering - is there anyone who didn’t just melt into a puddle after the sunset and whale painting scenes?) I’ll end this on a rather shallow note - dang Attorney Kwon IS cute 😍 the Hanbada dream team + Junho are a stunning bunch.

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*Youngwoo

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The counting together! ahsdkhqwuehakjshdajkshdjkas indeed.

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Cuteness overload everywhere 😆

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The second I saw the Whale-Painting along with WYW, & her reaction... I instantly knew she's never gonna be able to quit being at Hanbada now. Ever. Resignation..? What resignation? ❤️😁

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I think the whale is a photograph, not a painting because you can see a diver/photographer slightly below the photo.

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oh yes, good pick up - I meant to say photograph but got too excited trying to type up the comment hahahaha 😂

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I live for the moment in each episode when Attorney Woo’s face lights up when she is about to launch into a whale story.

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Or when she has some major insight and the whale imagery is all around

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WYW was like “Whale-A-Moment!” Love it!

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Thanks @unit for such a quick turnaround in producing this recap! I just loved this week's episodes.

Park Eun Bin is a terrific actress, and although the back stories for Woo Young Woo's colleagues at Hanbada has really not been explored, there is still depth to each of them, and the actors are all giving solid performances as well.

On another note, I have to wonder whether CEO Han just saw Woo Young-Woo's potential as the sole reason for hiring her. She did say when she was in her car that Woo Young-Woo was the spitting image of her mother, who she (CEO Han) seemed to have known quite well...

I guess that back story may be revealed in coming episodes. We will see...

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I already have tonnes of theories about who is the mom of Young-woo, I don't know if they are right ...

But first of all, talking about the two huge competing law firms in town. Hanbada means "the great ocean", and Taesan is "huge mountain", which also just happen to be the name of a mountain range in Eastern China. If everybody know some common knowledge on laws, we know the laws of all countries can be generally divided into two systems: Civil Law and Common Law.

I don't go into too many technical terms, but for general understanding, Civil Law relies more on written code, and the logical interpretation of those code; and Common Law relies on pass cases, and the interpretation of them. Common Laws are more being used in Great Britain, as well those places which used to be under British rule (Canada, United States, India, etc.), and Civil Law, originated from Napoleon Law, commonly used in European countries, their formal colonies, as well some other countries like Russia, China, Japan, etc.

Why I mention this? Because in Eastern Asian languages, "Common Law" also named Oceanic Law (Great Britain is a country out at sea), and Civil Law is called Continental Law (think of Europe as a great continent).

Now think of Hanbada and Taesan, what do you think? (and one more thing: Hanbada's boss surname Han, and Taesan's CEO have Tae as her family name ...)

I now believe the ending of all episodes hold the clues of the question: Who is Young-woo's mom? What if--
1. Ms. Han and Ms. Tae were two competing classmate in their law school, and
2. Not only they compete in their academic score in school, but also the heart of Young-woo's dad (who is also a law school graduate), and finally ...
3. Since CEO Han knows Young-woo's mom, so Young-woo's mom is Ms. Tae?
4. and for the sake of her success in her legal career, Ms. Tae give up Young-wo to peruse that success, and
5. That results into Young-woo left to her father as sole parent?

I am just too imaginative, so just take it as a reference, please
(But you know, this is a K-drama, and they love to do these kind of things) ...

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I forget to mention: South Korea basically follows Civil Law system (mainly rely on written code), but some characteristics of Common Law do exist (interpretation of cases sometimes count).

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The Constitution of the ROK was clearly modelled on that of France: A strong President elected separately, a National Assembly lead by a Prime Minister, etc. This includes courts with three judge panels- every time that I see a Korean courtroom, I half expect Maurice Chevalier and Louis Jordan to appear (see Cole Porter's CAN CAN which is one of my favorite musicals).

The Napoleonic Code was actually simply a major re-codification of the already existing Civil Law which actually goes back to the days of Rome and was first fully codified in the Code of Justinian. BTW: There is actually one US State that uses the Napoleonic Code as its law- Louisiana. I remember researching Louisiana law and looking at the revisions going back in the history of the statue- and suddenly you are trying to read the original provisions in French.

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You are right, @oldawyer. Even North America's Justice system is the sea of Common Law, there are in fact 2 places follow Civil Code, the other is Québec, which is also a former French colony.

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On the law angle, why couldn’t the friend’s Mom testify against the two brothers? She was in the room.

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@bbstl Would her testimony not be discounted because of partiality, being married to the plaintiff and all?

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When CEO Han was in the car after meeting with Woo Young's dad, I got little ominous vibes from her. I hope she doesn't turn to be an antagonist.

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I got the same vibe when she said WYW looks like her mom. I hope we're overthinking, ugh

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I don't think so, @emsel. Another analogy in the drama: does whale survive in the mountain (Taesan)?

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Can the sea wash away the mountain? Bit by bit, it is possible 🤔

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Is she planning to use Young Woo as a card to take down Taesan (assuming Tae is the mother) in the future?

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My gut feeling is a no, @bbstl, but I don't have prove yet, so just keep that in mind for the time being.

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Or this clip is a clue, @bbstl? They said this is an outtake from Episode 2.

The clip: https://youtu.be/RRWSoa-a4vE

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Ha, I could only get Korean subtitles on it so have no idea what was said, but I’ve been in that hotel lobby! It’s the Intercontinental 😄

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I've watched these episodes twice and would watch them again. They are so WARM even when the legal case is grim or sad or infuriating. I love how Kang Ki-young's character went to bat for WYW with the CEO, and how the CEO gently called him out on his initial reluctance to work with her. I love how WYW asked with an almost snarky smile, "Do you have any evidence to support your claim?" when the brothers' lawyer accused her client of provoking the assault. I love how Jun-ho enjoys her for who she is.

I really appreciated that WYW's dad opened up about how lonely he has felt, since he cares so much about WYW but she's only begun to think a little about him. As this drama continues to build toward a romance between Jun-ho and WYW, I'm a little worried he will also feel lonely.... I hope the drama is honest enough to put some bumps in the road.

I'm also looking forward to learn more about Dad's backstory, and what happened to Mom, and what their relationship was with Ms. Han.

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I love how WYW asked with an almost snarky smile, "Do you have any evidence to support your claim?"

Yes yes, I enjoyed every moment of WYW using the same lines back at the defendant lawyer

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Your second paragraph - yes. I love, love, love Jun-ho's character, but I do want it to be acknowledged that being in a relationship with WYW will not be straightforward. He's going to have to communicate what he needs to her clearly - and expect mistakes and omissions to be made. But I *really* hope they go there - it would be completely in the spirit of the drama.

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I’m a little fixated on the Jun Ho angle. He volunteers with disabled people to the point that it’s well-known by the people around him, he instinctively seems to be able to re-map to however WYW is interacting in a moment… He’s got a lot of traits I’ve seen in siblings of people with disabilities or spectrum disorders (in particular, younger siblings).

It would not surprise me at all if Jun Ho grew up with a near-age disabled sibling or cousin. And that in turn might make things really interesting if it turns out that he’s starting to feel romantically about WYW - because while he’s most certainly more on her wavelength than anyone outside her family, grappling with part of that being romantic is pretty serious.

It’s a fascinating topic and let’s see how audiences react to it. Because if the most attractive man in the law firm is crushing on a woman who can’t look people in the eye and can barely stand being touched… Society comes down pretty hard on that as a “weird” preference.

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I loved that "Do you have any evidence to support your claim" moment! There was a pause as we held our breath as to what Young-woo's response would be to the accusation of inciting the the incident that nullified the contract....since the accusation was true. And then a slam dunk with that line! It was such great payback after the last 2 sessions were derailed by the brothers'+neighbor's perjury.

I liked the parallel between the communication struggles between the dad and Young-woo when she was little and how she struggles to communicate with Jung-hoon and having to put in the effort to find common ground, which may not always be successful.

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Thank you for the weecap @unit!
I have been stalking DB for this recap; I think this will just be a weekly tradition for me now. My heart broke episode 3 and was repaired episode 4. Though it was hard to witness, I am glad the writer(s) explored historical and current prejudice against people on the spectrum and addressing the wide spectrum of life with autism including for caregivers and loved ones. I think this writer does a great job of balancing the grim and the heartwarming. I loved seeing Myeong Seok fight for Young Woo and claim her as a member of his team and Junho’s crush is adorable for the fact that he sees her as a person. Another theme I appreciated is that communication is precious. Oh, my heart when the defendant said “Peng-ha” and then Young Woo echoed him and you knew she—and we—understood him.

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Yes, agree with the movement of episode 3-4, it was so skilfully done. I was sobbing at points in ep3 as the prejudice against autism was revealed - PEB did *such* a good job of conveying that the comments were hurting whilst not showing that outwardly. And I love that Myeongseok has done a complete 180 and is not trying to justify it, just accepting he made a rash judgement and he was wrong. Glorious.

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Thak you, @unit, for the weecap! I loved the way Myeong-seok told Young-woo that she has used all her vacation days and she can't go on a leave of absence anymore. He's telling her to be more responsible but she gives her own comeback - I can't go on vacation, anyway!

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Whales in kdramaland that Young-woo hasn't talked about (yet):

Grey Whale - rare elders who don't die their hair
Right Whale - often the 2ML, sometimes the ML
Killer Whale - includes 2 subspecies: Serial and Other
Blue Whale - if they smile it's forced and unnatural
Rice's Whale - eats traditional food, rarely seen at Subway
Beaked Whale - identifiable by a distinctive facial feature
Pilot Whale - commonly employed by airlines
Bottlenose Whale - likes soju
Humpback Whale - may use a cane

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Also

False Killer Whale - often wrongly accused.

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Your wit is always impressive but this crossover of whale trivia and drama tropes is pure meta genius!

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I feel like the writer must have had some “sensitivity readers” who are experts in the autism spectrum that had to have helped tweek these episodes in general. The 3rd episode could have gone off the rails quickly, but I found myself utterly impressed. I’ve worked with several patients and people on the spectrum, both on the severe lower end and then on the very high functioning upper end. Dealing with stress and unfamiliarity of situations is difficult on both ends. It’s when those occur that even high functioning individuals breakdown more easily than neurotypical persons and it’s obvious. I only mention this because we see it manifested in very believable and accurate ways on screen I feel. The self soothing, the exaggerated hand and body movements, the yelling and screaming. It’s easy to say these individuals are just being “dramatic” in real life and to dismiss them as such, try not to relate to them, or meet them where they are, and it’s very challenging. It is a disability that they would rather not have. All the more why I appreciate the patience of the male lead—my heart— and others around her, who are willing to take more time with Young-woo to make sure she’s okay.

I love how the waltz makes it back into each episode with the dance of finding the evidence in episode 3 and then the OST which is also in 3/4 time at then end of episode 4. This show is brilliant in that as well.

And oh to have a best friend like Gu-ra-mi, who is sensitive and intuitive, and understands her surroundings and Young-woo. Everyone needs a friend like that. That’s as much a fantasy as anything else in this drama. She picks up right away the special relationship between Jun-ho and Young-woo and immediately encourages it. And although she picks out the wrong “handsome” guy out of the crowd, I’ll forgive her; different strokes for different folks. (And how ingenious was the writer there, right? I really didn’t find the obnoxious lawyer very attractive at all until she did. 😂)

I’m looking forward to continuing to be charmed by this show.

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The timing for the waltz OST during episode 4 was really spot on! The tempo slowed down exactly when Junho stopped himself from interrupting WYW's moment with the whale. The team behind this drama have a vision and it shows in all the details.

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The strength of vision and committing to it plays a huge part in why this drama is so strong. I'm not sure if the waltz-y moments were in the script or something that the director added - but the fact that they're there and done so beautifully really shows how much love and care the entire production has put into the drama.

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I was counting the time listening to the OST and kept second guessing myself. I am glad it is confirmed. Just utterly clever. I am sure someone else with wit can think of a more clever couple name, but for me, they are the Waltz Couple.

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Thank you for the recap!
I started watching this without much expectations and it's become the one drama I enjoy and look forward to the most every week. I'm so glad for the casts and production team it's doing well in ratings and getting the attention it deserves. I know it's been said countless times before but PEB is sensational. It's her sincere portrayal makes Woo Young so lovable and relatable. Woo Young's naive and innocent nature, her love for whales, her sense of justice all make her so endearing. I find Woo Young's obliviousness to Jun Ho's budding feelings and their interactions adorable.

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I learnt a lot from beanies about ASD in the previous recap, especially someone of Woo Young's calibre is rare and to watch the same being highlighted in the 3rd episode, made me trust the writer even more because it shows that the team is putting in efforts to create awareness without being preachy and emotionally manipulating the viewers. The scene where the prosecutor argued of assuming one person to be mentally stable and the other to be unstable and subsequent breakdown of Woo Young after reading the online comments are much more profound in portraying the prejudice than watching her get bullied in school.

Under normal circumstances I wouldn't like the ML's sole purpose to serve as a romantic interest, but here Kang Tae Oh's acting is coming across as earnest that I'm onboard his interest towards Woo Young.

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It was a glorious case of "show, don't tell".

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https://asianwiki.com/Extraordinary_Attorney_Woo
The third episode defendant was Jeong-hun (played by Moon Sang-hoon who also played Ru-ri on DP). Jeong-hun's brother was Sang-hun (played by Lee Bong-joon who also played as Youth of May student protestor and as Gu-hyo in ongoing Kdrama Alchemy of Souls). Jeong-hun and Sang-hun's parents was Kim Jin-pyung and his wife. Kim Jin-pyung was played by Sung Ki-yoon and his wife was played by real actress who had one of the credited Kdrama mother roles, no other than Yun Yoo-sun. Yun Yoo-sun also recently portrayed as mother on Tomorrow, and the two ongoing Kdramas Jinxed at First and even Yumi's Cells.

The third episode was one of my favorite episodes so far. In total, I had my favorite two episodes so far (Episodes 2 and 3). Episode 3 also featured the brief detail on Austrian physician Hans Asperger (and the Asperger's syndrome) on the 43min. mark because he was one of people associated with the titular diseases. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Asperger)

I'm happy that this week's episodes was increased and jumped its TV ratings. Wow, I hope I wanted to gained more highest ratings in the coming weeks.

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The show does not only talk about Hans Asperger, but also a term representing hatred: Nazi.

The show tells his collaboration with building up Nazi's Racial Hygiene policy, even go so far to help distinguishing which of his clients should be kept for their intelligence, which should be treated as "retard" and should be exterminated. I guess the show is good not only it's storytelling, but also the hard questions it asked.

Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5907291/

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Thank you for clarifying character names and actors. I felt badly that I couldn't remember Jeong Hun's name when I was writing my comments.

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I have a deep love for Park Eun Bin, because she has been delivering since day one. Ever since seeing her in Age of Youth and Stove League, I’ve noticed how she always took diverse roles, but was always consistent throughout. But I really fell for her in Do You Like Brahms. And I first saw Kang Tae Oh in Run On, and I fell in love. He has such a beaming smile and an honest aura about him. And putting these actors together was a really smart idea.

Autism is a very sensitive topic, especially when it comes to dramas. It was done before in Good Doctor and frankly, I was okay with it. Even in the American adaptation of it, I was satisfied. But there are moments when the acting won’t feel very sufficient. It was my first time seeing a show about an autistic person and I didn’t know much. But seeing Park Eun Bin’s acting range, I actually enjoyed it. Interestingly, almost in every episode, sensitive topics are discussed. I expected to be queerbaited in episode two, but it was beautifully done. And the whole issue about meeting a autistic defendant who’s not like Young Woo was brought to a beautiful end. I love how the episodes are handled. And I also love how her colleagues (now) see her as a really good attorney and not as an autistic attorney, especially, Jung Myung Seok, her boss and Lee Jun Ho.

Jun Ho is such a beautiful person. He has such a pretty soul, honestly. You can see how he actually sees her as a woman rather than look at her with pity as the episodes went by. The heart eyes he throws her way are honestly so adorable. And so far, I can actually see their chemistry.

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Honest aura is actually the perfect way to describe KTO - I agree wholeheartedly!! It really was smart casting, I would've never thought to put those two together (like it would've never crossed my mind) but it's perfect so far ✨

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It seems like Jun Ho has spent a lot of time being fantastic, and most people’s interactions with him are sort of on that “popular guy” level. Not fawning, but… People want to be around him because he’s the prom king, a little. He’s kind and smart and nice and to make him like you more you give him chocolate. Which from his side, could get pretty wearing.

And then there’s WYW who has ABSOLUTELY no hero-worship going on, who can barely contain all of her own personality never mind monitor the personality of others, and who is adorably trying not to talk about whales. And when Jun Ho (who I swear is the younger sibling of someone disabled) gives her that outlet, he is utterly charmed by her fascination and enthusiasm around a topic that has nothing to do with him and his popularity. Must be a total change of pace.

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Jun Ho's heart eyes! <3 I think if the woman of his affections were anyone by Young-woo, the office would have been abuzzed with talk about how Jun Ho has a massive crush on Young-woo and how his eyes are dripping with honey. But because she has autism, they probably don't see her as a possible romantic candidate. It's not that the law firm is toxic or filled with assholes, but there are implicit biases that we all have.

When she walked into the cafeteria, Jun Ho looked like he was going to fly across the table to talk to her and ask her about whales.

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Yes, he couldn't wait to be with her. If that boy isn't smitten.
I think it has been personally satisfying for me to discover my own "implicit biases" and be educated. Some dramas transcend entertainment and I think this will be one.

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I absolutely love this drama and I think I'll run out of adjectives to say how awesome Park Eun-Bin is! I also love Kang Ki-young and Kang Tae-oh in their roles 😃😃.

I'm still trying to get used to the ML's name 😆 but I'm already such a fan of how intentional he is. It looks like he will be joining my 2022 list of awesome leads.

What was that ominous music at the end when lawyer Han said WYW looks like her mom? Or am I imagining things?

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I have definitely not watched enough Kang Ki-young dramas and I must change that.

I remember liking him so much in WWWSK

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yes! he's also really good in Moment at Eighteen, if you haven't watched that already!

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Adding that to my list, thanks 😀

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He's extremely funny in "Bring it On Ghost"

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I just started a rewatch of Sec Kim to see more of him!

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The opening week was good but this week was exceptional. Geurami was a scene stealer. I was wondering where she got all her eccentricity from when her parents seem so ordinary but then their fist bump, finger heart and nod in the courtroom made me realise there's no birth secret there.

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We got more Kang Ki Young this week, now I can say with confidence that this show is perfect.

On a serious note... Yeah this show is perfect for me. 100% my style. Nothing more to say. I love it.

Ps. I smell a marriage proposal on Jeju Island with dolphins as witnesses. Just saying. 😉

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The show manages to address serious issues without being too sentimental and dramatic. But the message is not lost, although there is still a positive mood.
I liked how it was shown that autism is not autism, but that there are various gradations. And an autistic person does not have to be miraculously able to communicate with another autistic person without any problems.
I could really empathise with her father's situation. Especially as a single parent, such a life must be very lonely sometimes.

My favourite character, by the way, is Jung Myeong-seok. I like his way of dealing with Woo Young-woo, even if he sometimes makes mistakes in the process, but actually always means well after slight initial difficulties.

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I have nothing especially insightful or deep to add to the conversation so I’ll just leave it off with this: I love the show. I love the show so much. I love how it’s hitting every beat I wanted it to and so much more. I love that the writer clearly cared about establishing Young-woo as a person with thoughts and feelings of her own and not simply a vehicle to tell a story about a savant lawyer. There was obviously a ton of research done to portray the spectrum of autism with care and accuracy. My heart is so full watching each episode.

Park Eun-bin is a freaking superstar. She has never given a subpar performance in her entire career, but her as Young-woo still blew me away. Kang Tae-oh has always been great as well, but I’m especially loving him as Jun-ho. And god BLESS Kang Ki-young here. I cannot be the only one who finds him crazy attractive in his attorney getup. Please tell me I’m not the only one. To borrow a wonderful phrase from @lapislazulii, I have full blown ultra bright neon hearts for all three of them.

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omg he really is crazy attractive as an attorney here - I shamelessly paused & rewatched that scene where he's sleeping in his chair like ten times because wow

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Thank god I’m not the only one. And that scene definitely wasn’t the only time I had to pause and stare lol.

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(oh wow there are more of us lmao. it's not like it was new information but me at the end of 4 was just like "I LOVE Kang Ki Yong". can he be in everything please)

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“Can Kang Ki-young be in everything” is a something I’m completely down for and have been for a long time. There is no drama he cannot automatically make better with his presence.

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Now that KDY is confirmed for a (single, just one) lead, we need to turn our energies towards KKY also lmaoo!~~

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@ladynightshade: There with you. My intro to him was through Queen for 7 Days and I adored his acting and character in A moment at eighteen. If only more teachers were like him.

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He looks younger (and freaking hot) when he's not wearing his eyeglasses. 😱😄😅😍💕

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@lapislazulii what a fantastic all encompassing phrase 🥰

Let’s hope that the show continues to be outstanding and that it is recognised in the awards shows at a later date. Dramas that raise awareness and make a difference to real people need to be recognised along with those that have great entertainment value. I think shows like Record of youth that increase awareness of vaccines for sexual health play an important part in the messaging processes for people of all ages.

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I was thinking if it was Kang Kiyoung's first time in suits, but then I remembered his role as a company executive in What's Wrong with Secretary Kim. He looks dashing when he's dressed to be taken seriously, like in Tunnel and his cameo in While You Were Sleeping.

Kang Ki-young's been typecast as the "funny, clumsy wingman", so it was refreshing for him to see him demonstrate more of his abilities as the straight man Myeong-seok. I found the scene in which Myeong-suk was asking Attorney Jang to take up Young-woo's case hilarious because it looked like he was facing one of Kang Kiyoung's witty characters ha

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I love Choi Dae Hoon as well, so that was a fun contrast.

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Honestly, one of my big takeaways from episode 3 was that we need a whole drama where Kang Ki-young and Choi Dae-hoon are rivals/actually-bffs-but-won’t-admit-it. Obviously, they’ll be the main leads. I believe this is absolutely necessary for like, art, and world peace, or something.

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Umm..you are not the only one.

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Episode 3 was one of the most emotional episodes for me. Good job Unit!!

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I hope our extraordinary attorney Woo gets to go to Jeju Island by herself or with someone who she likes to see Sampal, Chunsam and Boksun, the released dolphins who apparently are often swimming with baby dolphins. These three better behave and not do anything to those baby dolphins as adult dolphins - to put it mildly - can be aggressive jerks.

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"to put it mildly"- understatement of the month 🤭

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@sicarius: Didn’t want to harsh anyone’s mood so went down the understatement road.😊

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no violent whale facts, just yet kekekeke

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I think ep 4 is my favourite episode right now, giving the brothers a taste of their own medicine? Priceless!!
And woo young's father is my favourite character hands down because he is the real MVP.
Also our ML is going to spend a lot of time in crushland because our lady dosent seem to know yet😄
Can't wait for Next week.

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It's impossible to no adore Woo Young-Woo. PEB made her character so lovely.

It's interesting like now she's working, she is learning about herself and autism too. Her father gives her good advices.

She's smart, she found someone who could protect her and now, she could protect Geu-Ra-Mi's family too. The father was way too nice with his brothers.

Min-Woo's questions were fair. He and Su-Yeon don't have as much choices than Woo Young-Woo. But he's not a jerk about it neither.

Jun-Ho's sincerity is nice to see. I like how he's very responsive, he counts with her before to get in the room, he speaks about the whales, etc. He entered her world. At the end, when he said that what he wants to show her, was behind her, I couldn't help myself to think he was behind her too :p

The Kdrama world is rather small : They released a picture on Instagram with Park Eun-Bin, Ha Yoon-Kyung and Yun Yoo-Sun (the mother of the autitic client). They all acted with Rowoon as his lover in TKA, his big sister in SWNK and finally as his mother in Tomorrow (she must specialized in very big sons :p).

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"At the end, when he said that what he wants to show her, was behind her, I couldn't help myself to think he was behind her too"

😆😆 Same

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Oh, I forgot about the epilogue in the 4th episode. I wondered of her boss was really nice or she had an evil scheme. It looks like she knew the both parents.

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I've replayed the scenes where Geurami was at Hanbada so many times! My Korean language knowledge is super limited; I can read that she saved YW's name in her mobile as Woo Young Woo Young Woo (so cute!) but I've no idea on the clause she tattooed on her arm. What was that? I suppose she tattooed it when her dad is going to win the case...?

I love the bickering between Attorney Choi & Attorney Kwon, like the part when he greeted her with Pengha at the elevator. Lol.

I hope YW didn't actually throw out JH's gift. It must have been some whale-related stuff.

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Yes, I believe that Geurami tattooed the clause where if the recipient of a gift commits violence against the giver of said gift allows the giver to cancel the gift contract.

The Pengha karaoke scene is epic in itself, I bet Attorney Kwon noped himself out of it.

The gift seems to be a circular metallic object of some sorts, a clock? Can't remember it off hand, will check it again later.

But the gigantic whale print wholly makes up for it, Park Eunbin's expression of sheer joy and amazement is so magical.

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If I were to list all the things I love about this show after this week's episodes, I would have to publish this comment as a work of non-fiction because it would be approximately 250000 words long.

Sadly I have never met a person diagnosed with autism so I can't speak for representation, but I truly hope the show is doing its main character justice. It has certainly bewitched me, body and soul. Young-woo is eccentric in the best way, and surrounded by so many endearing people that I'm already feeling envious they aren't part of my inner circle.

I'll probably be back next week as well, short-circuiting my computer with my tears as I write how good the characters, the humor, and the budding romance are. Because they are, truly. But what this show really does spectacularly, imo, is the details, the small moments you miss if you blink. So far I've managed to catch Jun-ho counting along with Young-woo, Geum-rami looking between Young-woo and Jun-ho in the cafeteria, the little animated whale in episode 3 having a sleep mask with WYW written on it, Young-woo smiling like a lunatic when exiting Myeong-seok's office after getting her job back, and the ost being in 3/4 time like a waltz. I'm sure there's more and I'll be keeping an eye out when re-watching.

My only wish going forward is that we get more backstory for all the characters. It doesn't have to be super detailed or extensive, but I like all our characters so much that I want to know more about them, what makes them tick. I think that's one of the hallmarks of a great drama.

Can it be Wednesday already???

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As a teacher every student I have taught with autism is very different and you have to always change your teaching methods.
The drama portrays it really well, especially the part when they get easily distracted 😂

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Yes indeed! Using an ASD student's passion as a connection is brilliantly highlighted in this show. Frankly I've learned a lot from my students about: dinosaurs, the Beatles, pirates, Pokeman, the lock systems in canals, hydroelectric dams etc. Pengha!

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I also hope we get the supporting character's stories and arc so they are fleshed out more. I think we can trust the writer so I am eager.

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One of the things I love most about the show is something I felt when I first started interacting with people on the spectrum, which is the difference between having a “normal” conversation and going with the flow.

People who try to force the “normal” interaction get really, really frustrated, and sometimes bail or try to get others to impose rules (like the lawyer complaining about WYW getting special treatment). It’s some sort of insistence that the autistic person adapt, or that they be exiled. The person making those complaints don’t think of it that way of course - but it’s something that doesn’t fit into their ideas of efficiency or society, and they try to control that.

And then there are the people who (sooner or later) go with the flow. You don’t actually need all of your answers in alphabetical order, and you can think of other ways to ask questions or wait for your answer. Sure, it means more work for the neurotypical person because your conversation is not a checklist any more, it’s more of a rubix cube. But different isn’t wrong, and I’ve found plenty of benefit in having to adapt my thinking and sometimes finding an element I’ve been blind to.

So watching everyone interact with WYW in different ways seems very realistic, as does the fact that those characters who just go with her flow seem more content. The real question, for me, is how the show deals with very neurotypical and popular Jun Ho possibly developing a romantic relationship with WYW when much of society’s perception of her is a mix of childlike and damaged. Because that scrutiny will hit him directly.

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Wonderful comment and wonderful perspective! I was vaguely aware that having a conversation with Young-woo meant thinking a bit outside the box and seeing the world through her eyes (like Jun-ho tries to do), but after reading your comment I will definitely start paying more attention to how different characters communicate with her and whether they try to impose their own way of thinking/conversing. I also love how you said a conversation with a neurodivergent person isn't a checklist, it's a rubik's cube!
Also, I agree that his relationship with Young-woo will impact Jun-ho directly. The scrutiny and prejudice around neurodivergent people and their relationships with neurotypical people is definitely something that I expect will be explored - I am very interested in seeing how that will play out as it is a topic that doesn't get nearly enough representation as it deserves.

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Same as everyone else here, I LOVE this drama! It is so on point, and making me rue my failures to attend to people with autism as I should have done. Powerful stuff!

I definitely want back story for Junho. He is so beautifully attentive to WYW - I was so delighted that he was going to speak when they went to see the whale photo together, but then held himself back so that he wouldn't ruin her moment - and I want to know how he has been shaped. His delight in her as her own person is to die for.

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@kate88hammond: You said it so beautifully. I share your curiosity re Juhno’s life trajectory!🥰

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It was so interesting to me that Jun Ho “held back” the reveal of the whale picture in the giant conference room. The minute after I learned that WYW loved whales, I probably would have said, oh wow, you need to see this picture, let’s go! But he saved showing it to her for some reason.

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Such an interesting thought! I had assumed he had taken her to the conference room before they were using it professionally, so that she wouldn't be so thrown by it in front of colleagues, but I hadn't considered why he's held back. An expert reading of when she was ready to appreciate it most? A tactical "date"? Hmmm...

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That’s a very good thought, that he wanted to prepare her for seeing it. For me, it ended up feeling like a sort of reward for her coming back. Like - see, you’re really in the right place 👍🏼

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You both make such interesting points.
I really like the interpretation of "you’re really in the right place".

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I love this drama. Period.
Why is it only twice a week?? I need more! 😭😭😭

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I have written already what I felt about this show on my fanwall so I will just mention another misconception/common mistake about autism that the show tried to tackle. Hope audiences got it. Myeongseok made that mistake when he assumed Young Woo can relate oe communicate better with the defendant just because she is autistic too. That is a huge misconception. Each case is different, unique to each person. That is why the advocacy is that autism is not a disease.. it is who they are. Sorry for sounding preachy but I just want to appreciate the show for touching on it. Hope the show will not falte. For now, I am cautiously optimistic.

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You’re not preachy at all! I appreciate you pointing out details that some of us might’ve otherwise missed. That’s one of the great things about these comment sections - I always end up learning something new from each of them. It’s great that the show is tackling these misconceptions and stereotypes head-on. For now, at least, it’s clear that the creators care about the people they’re depicting onscreen and that’s a huge relief given the usually abysmal representation of neurodiverse individuals in tv and film.

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Thanks! Yes, the creators seem to have taken steps to hire a consultant. Hopefully, this show will end up as one of the more decent depiction of autism. Fighting, EAW!

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Yes, I thought that point was brought home beautifully.

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I remember that scene! But I kinda feel like he didn't only ask her to be on the case because she was also autistic. His response to YW when she made the point that there is a spectrum and not all autistic people are the same - he said the fact that she understood that is what would make her fit for the case. I think more than her being autistic, he also trusted in her ability to think outside the box and view the case from a different angle that any of the other attorneys could. He really does respect her for what she brings to the table as an attorney first and foremost.

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This show is vying with AoS at the moment for favourite shows. I just find myself smiling in delight throughout the show or tearing up. I'm totally charmed! The waltz between the lead couple at the scene, MLs expression when he looks at YW, there's so much there! I'm also hugely grateful for the depiction of the prejudices and microaggressions that YW faces daily. It has given me so much to consider. Finally, the whales in all their forms and where they appear, outside skyscrapers, over trains, I can't help being filled with joy.

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another week where YW's dad is still alive thank god. (ominous CEO hanbada lady better watch it)

This week's eps were really well written as tackling a sensitive (and serious) topic in dramas is a real challenge and I'm glad that so far they are doing well in that area.

I think i frightened my neighbours into nearly calling the cops on me with all my incomprehensible screaming at the JH & YW scenes (to the point where I didnt even hear my sister's texts) as JH's sincerity (+sunset scene) was so genuine I could feel it.
I'm looking forward to the rivalry (turn friends I hope) between YW and MW in the upcoming eps, its gonna be so fun to watch them grow together!
I was also losing my mind when YW and DGRM did their friendship handshake in the middle of her workplace as I wasn't expecting that at all! 😂

On a serious note, the way YW addressed her realizations in ep3 towards the chairman and MS really broke my heart as it shows that everyone has a different perspective of each other (we dont see things the way others see it such as the attorneys as they worked with YW but the judges and prosecutors don't hence their apprehension and judgement of her) and are quick to judge (taxi driver scene) others even if they might be capable of more.
(I was so pissed and nearly threw hands when they started attacking YW during that court scene)

Gosh this show speaks levels and is instantly on my top 3 most liked list. (the art scenes in the credits YOOOOOOOOO)

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Quick question/comment, are there really no depositions in Korean court trials? All the surprise testimonies on k-drama witness stands can’t be real life…?

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I'm not a lawyer but in Switzerland, in civil cases, there are no deposition. The lawyer gives facts in his writings and he can prove them with documents or asks for future witnesses during the trial. It's the only time when the witness will be questionned by both parties.

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On that 2 brother's case, the way I understood the prosecutor's take was that Young-woo's argument was ironic because she argues that the defendant was mentally unfit due to his autism while being autistic herself. It brings home several points made in the episode, starting with Young-woo telling Myeong-seok that even though they're both on the spectrum, it doesn't mean that they're the same, Jun-ho's friend mistakenly misinterpreting her, and the defendant's father lashing out at her. It made Young-woo realize that while she may be surrounded by people who sees her as a capable lawyer, there are also those who cannot see past the label of "autism". She saw herself as being a liability to her team and her clients, instead of an asset to them. Which was why she quit because she didn't want to be a burden.

Thank goodness Myeong-seok is having none of it. And Jun-ho is right on his heels reminding Young-woo that she is valued. Ahh.. Loving the male leads on this drama. Intergalactic standards raised even higher, I must say! But of course, Park Eun Bin takes the crown. Loved her since Age of Youth. ☺️

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TRIGGER WARNING: SUICIDE

Prior to the whale/eureka moment, Young Woo attempted to hang herself inside her office and Jun-ho saved her at the perfect time which results to a romantic and funny scene. The discrimination she received from people outside of her team made her question her ability as a lawyer and triggered her to question her worth as a human being in general. While we appreciate the series as a unique (and somehow light) law drama, the cast, crew, and everyone who's involved in making this series also shows the effect of negative comments towards anybody. Words may really heal or crush your soul to pieces.

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Hmm.. No. She wasn't attempting suicide in that scene. She was trying to reenact it to trace how the older brother got the strange injury on his back. But yeah, aside from rare people like Young-woo, others might truly resort to suicide under similar circumstances.

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I haven't seen a show this heartwarming and delightful, where every character is basically nice, and with a romance this low key, ordinary and yet completely charming since Thirty But Seventeen.

If that show was a cup of hot chocolate with marshmallows, this show is like swimming in warm water at sunrise knowing that it's going to be a beautiful day.

I've missed so much having a drama like this and so glad I finally got around to picking it up.

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