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Extraordinary Attorney Woo: Episodes 7-8

Extraordinary Attorney Woo: Episodes 7-8

As we come to our midpoint this week, we explore a variety of relationships — whether it’s the one between the residents of a small town, that of parent and child, friends, coworkers, or even lovers. When the chips are down and secrets are revealed, how will the people in these relationships handle it?

 
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Extraordinary Attorney Woo: Episodes 7-8

When the residents of a town decide to file a lawsuit against the proposed construction of a highway passing through their town, our lawyers at Hanbada are hesitant to take on the case because the winning rate is low. But the town’s representatives don’t back down and practically drag the lawyers to visit their town. (And this is just random, but a section of the town is named Ki-young, just like Myeong-seok hehe.)

Much to Min-woo the mismatch-maker’s delight, Young-woo gives up her seat in the middle for Jun-ho and Su-yeon to sit together on the trip to the town. And as they arrive, I see why the representatives insisted that the lawyers pay a visit. It’s such a lovely place with delightful residents who are proud of the majestic Hackberry tree that stands on a hill in the town. Unfortunately, its designation as a natural monument was denied and it’ll be chopped down if the highway construction happens.

As our lawyers climb the hill, Young-woo trips and the fall rips a part of her jacket. This leads to a swoon-worthy moment where Jun-ho covers her with his own jacket – and this doesn’t go unnoticed by Su-yeon. Later on, Su-yeon asks if Young-woo hasn’t noticed that Jun-ho likes her. But Young-woo replies in the negative, and says it’s not easy for someone to like her because she’s autistic. If only you knew, sis.

Extraordinary Attorney Woo: Episodes 7-8

Back to the case, CEO Tae makes her first appearance in court as the senior attorney on the opposing side, and Young-woo is wowed by her aura and her defense in court. I mean, I would be too. The woman is good! But Young-woo’s fascination with CEO Tae upsets her dad, and he goes to confront CEO Han for hiring Young-woo just to use her existence as CEO Tae’s illegitimate daughter (thanks for the confirmation, Show) against CEO Tae. I really wanted to believe that CEO Han took Young-woo in because of her potential as a lawyer. Sigh!

Young-woo’s dad painfully tells CEO Han that he will ignore her scheme because there’s no other firm willing to accept an autistic lawyer. And he begs her not to put Young-woo on any case involving CEO Tae. As he leaves, he bumps into Young-woo and Min-woo, and Min-woo realizes that Young-woo’s father is CEO Han’s law school senior. He then accuses an oblivious Young-woo of entering Hanbada via nepotism, and leaves in a huff. Pffft.

And while Min-woo is upset at Young-woo, Su-yeon directs her frustration at Jun-ho. She tells him to be clear with Young-woo if he really likes her and to stop confusing all of them with his unconfessed feelings. Lol. She totally gives off the if-you-hurt-my-friend-I-will-haunt-you energy, and this is one of the reasons why she’s like a spring sunshine to Young-woo.

At the next court appearance, our lawyers argue that one of the construction assessments was done after the planning stage rather than before as stipulated by the law. And CEO Tae’s attempt to argue against this is foiled by Young-woo’s accurate recollection of the date and footnotes of this assessment amidst the mountain of evidence submitted to the judge. Whoa! It’s CEO Tae’s turn to be impressed by Young-woo.

Extraordinary Attorney Woo: Episodes 7-8

Back in the office, Young-woo takes Geu-ra-mi’s advice and asks to touch Jun-ho to check if she likes him. Seizing the opportunity, Jun-ho leans in closer, and she closes her eyes… *swallows*. But my excitement is soon dampened when Young-woo learns from Dad that she got into Hanbada via nepotism. She tells him that she’s an adult and doesn’t like when he intervenes in her life. And elsewhere, Min-woo uploads an anonymous post on Hanbada’s bulletin board on the unfair hiring practices at the firm.

Min-woo really chose violence, didn’t he? Unfair hiring practices? Pfft. What’s unfair is Young-woo not getting a job due to discrimination in the first place! And this might be my bias speaking, but if it’s by skills, she’s better at the job than Min-woo is. If she was incompetent, it’s a different story. But she has consistently proven herself, so what else does he want? Min-woo and his inferiority complex should take several seats, please.

Extraordinary Attorney Woo: Episodes 7-8

Of course, Su-yeon smells the rat behind the anonymous post and calls Min-woo out. She loudly defends Young-woo to the other employees and privately tells Young-woo to smack Min-woo upside the head for writing the post. That’s good advice, Young-woo, take it!

As our highway case continues, Hanbada convinces the judge to hold an onsite verification in the town, but of all days, it chooses to rain on the day of the verification. Hanbada and Taesan lawyers show off with their branded umbrellas, but all Young-woo can see is the drawing of a dolphin on the judge’s umbrella. Awww.

Unfortunately, the Taesan lawyers have gone ahead to convince a good number of the townspeople to consent to the construction and now it looks like the representatives are just working for their own interests. The judge trips as they climb the hill (and Young-woo offers to give him her jacket lol) and the rain makes the atmosphere gloom, so the onsite verification is a total bust for Hanbada.

The sun comes out soon after the judge leaves, and the race is on between Taesan and Hanbada to get the highest number of consent forms for and against the construction. CEO Tae finally remembers Young-woo as the rookie attorney who caught her eye in the wedding dress case, and tries to scout her to Taesan. (Anyone else getting some Pinocchio deja vu here? Just me? Okay.)

Min-woo wants to know what they talked about and Young-woo asks if he’s going to post it on the bulletin board again. Left to me, I’d have rubbed my scouting offer in his face. Tsk. Young-woo actually attempts to smack him, and warns that she will do it for real the next time he messes with her. But with the nepotism thing going on, she tells her dad that she’s switching firms to Taesan. And that’s when he blurts out that CEO Tae is her mother.

The news is so jarring that Young-woo trips from the stairs and lands in the hospital. And while there, Dad tells her his story as the son of a poor farmer who fell in love with the daughter of a rich family. CEO Tae was against keeping their baby, but Dad begged her to have the baby and promised to raise Young-woo on his own. Dad also agreed never to take the bar exam so they don’t run into each other, and now he regrets it because if he became an attorney, he could have hired Young-woo when no law firm wanted to take her.

When Dad tells Young-woo that her mother abandoning her was political, she realizes the Hackberry tree might have also been denied monumental status for political reasons. So she goes with Jun-ho to investigate this, and they end up talking about that day in the office – when she ran out without kissing him. (What? But she already closed her eyes!!) Anyway, Young-woo confesses her heart rate was really high that day and she thinks she likes him.

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As it turns out, the application for monumental status wasn’t even filed in by a penny-wise pound-foolish staff at the provincial office. But Young-woo sees that the staff has the same dolphin umbrella as the judge – the dolphin being the logo of a company that benefits from the highway construction. And just as the judge is about to dismiss their case, Hanbada files a motion to challenge the court under concerns of an unfair trial. This is all coincidental, but Young-woo quotes CEO Tae’s words about the human mind being weak in the face of money. CEO Tae is impressed again, but this time, the feeling is no longer mutual.

Young-woo tells CEO Tae about their relationship and says she can’t leave Hanbada and her dad to move over to her mother’s side. And as they talk, good news comes in that the tree has been given monumental status and the highway construction would have to be diverted from the planned route. When CEO Tae asks if Young-woo resents her, Young-woo admits that she really wanted to meet her mother once and it was nice to have spent time with her on the case. And with this, Young-woo says her goodbyes and walks away, leaving CEO Tae in tears.

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While I tried to put myself in CEO Tae’s shoes, and understand her decision at the time, I can’t come up with an excuse for her. Over the weeks, we’ve seen a few indications that she’s not completely unaffected by her decision to abandon her daughter (and I suspect she was also in the tinted car when Young-woo was dropped off). So why, just once, couldn’t she reach out?

I can’t imagine how Young-woo must have felt to learn that the woman she was so fascinated by is actually her mother, but props to her for handling the situation maturely. It’s one of the testaments to how well her dad raised her, and I don’t think he should worry as much because his baby girl is in fact, an adult. Besides, despite her mother’s absence, Young-woo will always be surrounded by love from him, and from the other good people in her corner.

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I really like spring sunshine character. I think she represents how a lot of people who might not have a lot of interactions or knowledge of ASD react in daily life. she clearly likes youngwoo a lot and cares for her, but she still can get frustrated and maybe a bit harsh in some of her reactions, expecting something from YW that she won't get if she never asks/explains. I think showing her with both reactions, as someone who does so much for YW, who values her, but can also get frustrated about her (but NEVER hurting youngwoo with it) is a nice thing to show in the drama. just like that moment when YW's dad said how lonely it was for him when youngwoo was growing up and wouldn't really pay attention to anything related to him, putting the spotlight on how hard it is for caregivers. and that's why the scene when youngwoo gives her that nickname is easily one of my favorites in the whole drama as for now. youngwoo is showing her that she also cares and knows how much she did for her. sometimes that's all you need.

no, but kang taeoh in the "can I touch you" scene.... the switch from being confused to flirty............. yeah
I don't know if it was the subtitles or the editing, but I was a bit confused with junho's reaction to YW confession. it was almost like he was conflicted about it? but at the same time, this reaction wouldn't make any sense from what he has said in the past.

attorney kwon, your inferiority complex is showing. one thing is to question someone getting a job because of connections. it's common everywhere but I get the frustration and I think shouldn't happen at all. but just like spring sunshine said, he should complain to the CEO or the HR team. and not go and post anonymously. and YW clearly didn't know about the connection and was always a team player, working hard to win cases like everyone else. she """won""" because she was better than you. also, it's something for him to complain about someone's connections and that was all he did for that copyright case, trying to gain the favor of the client using the military connection for example. listening YW's dad talking about how he would allow his kid to be used was so sad but also understanding. I also get YW's frustration and loved how we, once again, saw another moment of growth from her. of course the ones who love her will always try to protect her from the harsh reality, but at the same time learn how to let her live by herself is an act of love in itself. I guess this is something her dad will eventually learn.

about her mom.... the parents did a pact and followed it. the thing is that there's a person as a result and this person never had the chance to decide how to live within this pact. I feel for youngwoo who always wanted to meet her mom. I like how the drama didn't make her extremely angry, as she could perfectly be. I don't know, I don't think the mom deserves to be hated or anything, but she must deal with the consequences of...

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... her decision. I guess this is her burden to carry?! I don't really know how I feel about this whole thing to be honest.

love this show so much.
it's been a long time since I was so invested in a story. <3

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just wanted to add something... it can't be coincidence how similar the scene with junho in the office and one of the kissing scenes in do you like brahms lol the shoes, her almost tripping over something behind her lol I feel like the director just winked at us, park eunbin fans lol

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I thought he was gonna get punched when YW clenched her fingers 😆

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I think showing her with both reactions, as someone who does so much for YW, who values her, but can also get frustrated about her (but NEVER hurting youngwoo with it) is a nice thing to show in the drama

That's the beauty of Spring Sunshine Lady. Never did she in her head infantilise Youngwoo. She sees Youngwoo as another human, just a little bit of different configuration, but very much human. So even though Youngwoo does not react how she wished, she still expects that of Youngwoo. She sees Youngwoo as another responsible individual that doesn't need cuddling.
She has her positive and negative opinions, in a very realistic responsible, and healthy way respectively. And that will always make her a better person.

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How true. Pity has no place at this party. Clear minded loving compassion is what is called for. There were times when my ASD kids had to be told, with kindness, that they had to go in the bathroom and change their jeans from on backwards to frontwards. It went against every comfort-inducing sequence of behaviors, but no-way was I letting him go through the day getting teased about that matter. Spring Sunshine lady is my hero.

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I like that Spring Sunshine is a bit harsh with her. Because she is a bit harsh with most people. She doesn't need to treat Young Woo differently because she isn't that different. She is a smart young woman finding her spot in the world. She doesn't need infantilizing. She needs friends. Thumbs up for Spring Sunshine

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“I don't know if it was the subtitles or the editing, but I was a bit confused with junho's reaction to YW confession. it was almost like he was conflicted about it? but at the same time, this reaction wouldn't make any sense from what he has said in the past.”

I feel the same but there are two different translations of what he said. One is “I am disappointed” in Netflix and “What a shame” elsewhere. Maybe the latter is closer to what he behaved subsequently - flirty and leaning in with some subtle glee. Any observation from those who speaks Korean?

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oh I meant the scene from ep 8, when they're waiting for in the town hall and she says her heart rate went high and that she thinks she likes him. I know his reply is cut with the guy running away, but his face right after she said that was a bit confusing to me. I read almost as if he was going to say ""attorney woo, I'm sorry"" or something. he didn't smile at her confession, for example. but it could be just a confusing face too, I don't know...

the office scene he was definitely flirting back. every other scene and mention of his feelins are that he likes her. not saying he wants to act on them, but he def likes her thats why the town hall scene felt a bit out of place for me. it was the first time that it looked like YW was having a one side crush or something

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I felt like he was just surprised, that he didn't expect her to reciprocate his feelings. And then, the realization of "now what?"

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You are right. His reaction was totally confusing. But if you look back at his drunken conversation with Min Woo he said then that telling the person he liked her "wasn't that easy". I think while all of us have been distracted by trying to figure out who Young Woo's mom is, the real bombshell secret of the show is something to do with Jun Ho. He was about to blurt something out when she noticed the guy running away and stopped the conversation. This is gonna be good.

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He said in a previous episode that he didn’t serve in the military, and it looked like a plot set up for why he is conflicted.

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I wonder how this revelation will impact her mom’s political career because she lied during her interview with the media.

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I was wondering the same thing, and then I remembered WYW's 'whale fact' about how the whale hunters use the baby whale as bait to draw the mother in so they can kill it, and now I suspect that was some foreshadowing.

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Good point!!!!

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I think Jun Ho's conflicted reaction to Woo Young's confession was because he wasn't sure whether to confess his own feelings to Woo Young and how to approach without scaring her. SY's words must have affected him. Maybe it bothered him that WY might have been confused (like SY said) and he wanted to explain himself. He didn't realise his actions caused confusion to everyone when he's just been extra cautious even though it must have been frustrating for him too.

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I just love the pace of this drama. Everything is out as soon as it needs to be. The only slow person has to be Jun-ho.

Park Eun-Bin is simply amazing as WYW. Those she nails those microexpressions and I sincerely hope she sweeps those awards when the time comes.

Su-yeon is such a delight and I'm grateful that we don't get the toxic female SL.

I wanted to hug Jun-ho when he said "That's disappointing 😩🥺 and then I was grinning when WYW confessed 😆 and said her heart was racing

I now roll my eyes every time Min-woo is on the screen, so it's safe to say that I'm now a hater

I guess we were right about the ominous feeling we got after Hanbada met with WYW's dad🥴. WYW is definitely going to be a collateral in this fight.

I'm wondering how Tae Su-mi really thought/thinks that she can keep this secret from those who will do a background check before her Minister of Justice appointment 🙄. All they need to do is question her former "staff"/classmates
Duhhh

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I was thinking that too. at first I thought tae sunmi and WY's dad romance was a secret one that no one would know, but it doesnt seem like the case at all. considering the rumour is around, it wouldnt take too long for people to connect the points tbh lol

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I adore Su-yeon.

Min-woo is such a weasel, but I've known too many people like him.

I might be alone in this but while I understand that Young-woo feels abandoned by her mother, I really don’t like that word in this case. It's so harsh and cold. So-mi was a college student facing an unwanted pregnancy. She chose to honor Young-woo’s dad’s wishes and have the baby and give her to him to raise, even though I’m sure her parents strongly objected. To me, that seems like an act of love. I'm sure it was painful for her and she tried to forget and move on. South Korea is also a conservative country and her reputation would have been ruined if anyone found out she had a child out of wedlock. I doubt her husband even knows.

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What I like about this show is that even if I can't relate to the bad guys, I can understand where they're coming from. I can understand why Su Mi gave up her child, just like I can understand why Min Woo is so resentful of Young Woo, even though his resentment is misplaced and unjustified.
The way the characters are written doesn't excuse their flaws, but it also leaves the door open for growth. It's this steady undertone of realistic optimism that keeps me coming back to this show.

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What I don't get about Min-woo is the fact that while he recognizes that we need competition to foster growth in a workplace like that (which is a very good thing to keep in mind), he has resigned in his mind the fact that he can't best Youngwoo. But truth is he can, and he will. Su-yeon is doing that already. I just hope he realizes that. If we had an unholy alliance of Hospital Playlist and EAW, I am sure the five doctors would not view Youngwoo as Min-woo does - unfair competition to their growth or success in the school, or workplace. They'd all shine brightly, healthily.

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Well said! It is this kind of character writing that I love about this drama.

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You are not alone in your thinking. I felt sympathy for Soo Mi--not that I approve of her actions--but you understand why she made her choice.

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I can't find it in me to blame Su-mi. As a well-connected, well-resourced young woman, she could have certainly decided not to give birth to Young-woo, but she did it out of love for the guy who loved her. Those months of pregnancy were laden with isolation and loneliness, and I wouldn't be surprised if she had to face her parents' recriminations. Young-woo's dad was in his early 20s too, but without any hesitation, he was willing to give up his future career prospects in order to have Young-woo.

Does anyone remember if Tae Sumi's husband is alive? Or is she widowed?

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from what I got from the extra scene released, she married hanbada CEO ex-bf LOL I THINK he's alive

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I can’t get mad about Su Mi. She didn’t force dad to give up the bar, he offered that up all on his own. It looks like they never connected again after that night. Su Mi did not want to have a baby, dad did, so she went through MONTHS of pregnancy and childbirth and then broke ties. That’s remarkable - from the jump she did not want to have this baby but since he did and was willing to do it alone, she gave him that opportunity.

That’s very different from abandoning a child. I can’t hate her for any of that, or the fact that she considers that genuinely not part of her life history, or that her entire world tilts when she realizes that THIS is the child she never remotely thought she’d see again. And her reaction doesn’t seem to be fear or rejection, more like unlocking a box she’d welded shut.

I keep wanting to see Su Mi as more of a birth mother in an adoption, and when a grown child you’ve lovingly given up all rights to appears in front of you - I know a few people who’ve had that happen, and it is a VERY different set of emotions from an absentee parent. I like the drama is taking this approach.

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Your last paragraph is exactly how I see the situation. Su-mi essentially gave her child up for adoption, just to the father instead of strangers. Birth parents in an adoption are all different. My niece and nephew are adopted. My niece's was an open adoption. My nephew's started out that way but the birth mom found it too painful and closed it. I'm sure that was a painful chapter for Su-mi, and like you said, she boxed it up and welded it shut.

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That's how I took her reaction too. I love your metaphor.

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I agree with you @missh. I’m happy that Tae Sumi did not abort WYW and deprive her of her destiny of being a lawyer. It took courage for her to keep the baby. She will forever keep the burden of “abandoning” her child to her father who actually asked for it. I look forward to see how mother and daughter’s relationship will develop.

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Su Yeon has officially beaten out Master Lee for my current favourite side character. I love her relationship with Young Woo so much, and I'm so glad they didn't take the jealous coworker route with her. Min Woo on the other hand...
I wonder if they're going to have him face the contradiction of his opinion of Young Woo. On the one hand, he's firmly convinced that she's untouchable because of her disability and 'connections', and on the other, he very readily calls her handicapped and says he has to carry the workload for the both of them, and doesn't even consider that anyone may be romantically interested in her.
Su Yeon is the exact opposite, because she acknowledges Young Woo's disability, but she also doesn't consider it (or let Young Woo consider it) her entire personality. It'll be very interesting to see how this aspect of the show pans out in future episodes.

Finally, I read a comment somewhere that mentioned how quickly Jun Ho switched from confused to flirty when Young Woo asked to touch him, and I have to agree. Man was smooth. I hope he confesses properly in the next episode.
I have this vision I really want to see play out in the last episode, where Jun Ho goes to meet Young Woo's dad, and Dad is all, 'Really? You have my blessing! Here's my kimbap recipe, she only likes this brand of ham!'

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Attorney Jung continues to be one of my favorite side characters. He could have been such a snob when they visited that small town but instead, he seemed to be genuinely charmed by the people there and was one of the first (maybe even the only?) Hanbada lawyers who started singing for the elders.

It's a shame they completely missed out on showing us his bedmate during that early morning call. I'd love to get even the tiniest glimpse into his private life. However, some more insight into his working relationship with Attorney Jang (whose client they lost last week) would also suffice.

In short: More, more, more of everything, please.

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Glad I wasn’t the only one straining to see that second pillow. Sadly, I think he was sleeping alone.

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I so wanted it to be the actress who played his on-again, off-again wife in Secretary Kim 😊

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You know what I was thinking about in these episodes. Would Min woo be in such a sniff if the inheritors of one of the 2 largest firms in Korea were men and not women.

He would not have done that is CEO Han was a man, I would bet on it.

His sexism has been subtle throughout the series. He believes he is the one that should have women in the office swooning over him. Sunshine has no problem calling him mediocre and isn't impressed by him. Young woo doesn't see him as a threat and is coming in handling business in half the time he was given.

Then he looked down his nose and Gau rami when she visited the office and was sizing him up, as if she would never have anything to offer him.

I don't know it this aspect of his character was the intension of the show, but damn, you see it.

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@larelle79: You’re spot on. The Minwoo character is not only an odious sexist shit who views the world through a gendered, ableist and classist prism but he is also an extremely immature and petty prat. Regrettably, there are many such people in the RL and the drama is doing a fine job so far in depicting these toxic individuals.

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The thing is that these toxic individuals aren't rare, especially in a more patriarchal, more ablist society, like Korea. Also the unhealthy level of competition in the ridiculously tight full-time job market is insane. I can see people getting demoralizing and giving into the ugliness in the process of competing.

Hanbada has plenty of work coming in, but they're only going to hire 1 full-time person after the year. Then what next for the firm? Hire another temp? Add onto others' workload?

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@ar: You said it my fellow Beannie. To my dismay, I have been reading about the scapegoating of women and the ratcheting up of misogynistic rhetoric, policies and practices in SK in the last few years, and my heart aches for how hard it is to be a feminist standing up for basic women’s rights in SK. I am so full of admiration for these women and I want to be their ally anyway I can. Having said all of this, we know very well sexism and misogyny are globally rampant. Just look at the war on reproductive rights in the US waged by theocratic fascists. The struggle for equity and human rights never ceases on this earth.

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I've also been reading about how so many young men are espousing misogynistic, incel views. I guess I had naively expected things to get better with time as we become more learned, more research is done on various populations, and certain views have become less socially acceptable. You're right that the struggle never ends.

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I was amazed that Min Woo is dumb enough to post something like that on an “anonymous” message board, and beyond proud that Sunshine promptly called him ALL the way out on it in the hearing of their boss. A rookie damaging the firm like that, taking public an HR complaint in a way that can generate bad PR? It sounds like Min Woo was pretty confident she’d never out him, and now he’s going to have to wait and see when that arises again with their boss. Because that should not be the end of that.

I’m not sure Min Wok’s behavior is related to the CEO being a woman. But the rest of him behavior is definitely poisonously gendered. And unfortunately, with that sort of personality, it’s going to have to be a senior woman solidly icing him to get him to shape up.

It’s the weirdest thing with these young guys (and yes, I mean guys). They think we don’t see what they’re doing. they think they’re charming us, somehow. And it scares the bejesus out of them when they realize you’ve clocked every single sly move they’ve made, but you have to do it like a hammer-blow, otherwise they think you’ve just caught them out once and next time they’ll have to be sneakier.

If this show incorporates a scene with a lawyer above Min Woo causally sitting him down and then conversationally asking him “tell me a little more about X” and “oh, so is that why Y happened” and he starts off confident and then slowly realizes where he’s being maneuvered and that he’s convicting himself with his own words as she unflappably continues these seemingly light questions, I will be very… content.

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Honestly, I think Min Woo is written as stupid and very naive to think that nepotism is something to make an issue about in SK or anywhere, and that people would be surprised that nepotism took place. A lot of the world revolves around who you know, duh.

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And his idiotic behind doesn't seem to realize that he got into a good law school, graduated and made into one of the biggest law firms in the country.

Where was his struggle? I'm not seeing it.

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Yep, I guess we have to wait to see that, and then we’ll all understand him 😉
Mr Insecure with a back story, we’re waiting …

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There are 3 for one job. It doesn't look like he's from a rich family : his comment about cooking, he lives with Jun-Ho. Sunshine has a father who is a judge, she didn't have to get a loan to study I guess.
A lot depends from this one year job for him.

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First off, my laugh out moments.....when Jun ho turn on the charm....yeah, he should do that more often.
The minwoo and his inferiority complex should really take a hike
@unit thank you for the recap and the penny wise- pound foolish was very apt.

About young woo's mom,I can understand her giving her up,but I cannot understand her not checking or even knowing how she looks, in a way I would have preferred her cold, i was expecting cold not tears....I hope she actually makes an effort at reconciliation but I am not holding my breath for that.

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First of all, I post this video several time on this website already, but I want to post it here so that we can put it in a right forum. This is my question: if CEO Han only jealous on CEO Tae "stole her husband", whom she wed probably simply out of political reason, I don't think CEO Han will go that emotional, right? There must be someone else (and Youngwoo's dad Gwangho is one of the huge possible candidates on the list), and I won't interpret "husband" in the literal sense.

This lead me to the relationship between CEO Tae and Youngwoo's dad. @unit said "I can’t come up with an excuse for her." I don't think so. We all know how huge family pressure on their sons and daughters' love life, especially someone like CEO Tae an heir of a big law firm (so as CEO Han as well, I guess), and by judging her reaction then and now, she did (and still do) love Gwangho, and really miss Youngwoo. As a result, I don't want to blame her too much, she probably being forced to abandon them, and still regret her decision till this very day (and no matter CEO Han is for good or for evil, I'm probably sure this issue will come up again sometimes before the show ends).

On the love-line, Surely we all are looking for a kiss between Junho and Youngwoo, but I think there is no kiss is a good thing: judge by Youngwoo's reaction, she is probably very painful at the time (remember facing ASD patients, you have to ask before touching them, because without they fully prepare themselves, this will be a very horrible experience--I know this because a colleague of mine has a 20-year-old daughter with Autism, with mind age of just 3). Therefore, kissing her is not a very romantic thing, and she escaped him is probably a very natural reaction.

This week episodes have me rewind quite a lot of time to rewatch and rewatch (even neglect some other shows). The mother-daughter part are one of the best, no doubt. I don't repeat why here, because probably quite a lot of you will talk about it here.

And now, even little bird, little sheep and Myeong-seok need to go to work now, so as I. Talk to you all later.

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Give this drama an award for pace and doling out juicy tangential information without unnecessary drama or coincidences.

I really feared Youngwoo appa when he 1. questioned Youngwoo about her researching CEO Tae, and 2. confronted CEO Han. Damn! The man brought his gun, cocked. His color change from loving and sweet to protective and vicious...fear and respect, all in one.

Spring Sunshine Su-yeon, hwaiting. You'll get your time to shine.

And talking about shining, Min-woo really went dirty. Arrrggh, I thought it was settled last week, but nepotism, unfair employment. Let this lady alone, man. The only good thing about this is he recognizing that Youngwoo is strong for him to compete with. But if Su-yeon has no issue with it, then Min-woo is really at the bottom of the class when the three are concerned. Even if she is a competition, you have your forte. Work on it and get your inferiority complex together before you ruin what you have going as an employment.

After that tour of the town, culminating with the violin play+naturte scenery at the end, there's no way I won't take that case.

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Ohh, forgot to add this, young woo should have shoved her scout offer in his face, I am still waiting for the case that will take him down several pegs and @unit, the pinocchio comparison was on point, warz with our resident mom and abandoning her on-screen children?

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I love every relationship Young-Woo shares with the other characters.

Jun-Ho : They're super cute. I like that he wants to be honest with his feelings.
Jung Myeong-Seok : I think they form a comedy duo without knowing it.
Su-Yeon : She's such a good colleague and friend, a true Sunshine!
Min-Woo : He's often acting as a jerk but I understand his reasons. if he has no connection and could only rely on himself, the situation could be seen as unfair. But he's not direct, he's a weasel doing things in secrets, behind the back. He let Young-Woo learning about fight for herself. I think it's good.
Geurami : She's a good friend.
Woo Gwang-Ho : It must be hard to find the balance between protecting Young-Woo and letting her grow up. At least, he didn't hide the mother's secret any longer.
Tae Su-Mi : I think the word "abandon" was a little bit too strong. I think her family was behind her decision, but if it wasn't the case, if she wasn't ready to be a mum yet, abortion was the best solution. But she accepted to be pregnant during 9 months and give life to Young-Woo. I don't see her as a villain.

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Spot on with the relationships. I particularly enjoy this: Jung Myeong-Seok : I think they form a comedy duo without knowing it.
I was in stitches when they were unwittingly competing to guess the word the village head was trying to say.

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Attorney Jung is the best 😂

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He also did not embarass Min Woo by intervening in the situation when Su Yeon called out on the anonymous post in the office. Attorney Jung is so professional!

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With each episode I become a bigger fan of Su-yeon. She's quite a hothead but has her heart in the right place. I love how she fights for Young-woo and always encourages her. I really hope she doesn't suffer from heartbreak for too long and finds happiness in private.

In contrast, Min-woo is the only character in this series that I currently despise with all my heart. When you have to resort to such dirty tricks yourself to achieve your goal, you shouldn't shout too loudly that you have been treated unfairly.

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Since we have not learned much about Min Woo, except for what we can infer, I wonder if we will get his story. I am hesitant to think any character in this drama will not have some sort of growth arc with the way the writer has flipped expectations with other characters, even minor ones like the Judge from last week.

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I thought the most powerful scene in this week's episodes was Young-woo's conversation with her mom. It goes without saying that the actresses did a fantastic job, but what I also loved about the scene was the directing! That subtle camera tilt showed that Tae Su-mi's entire world was being shaken up in that moment, while Young-woo's stayed steady - to showcase her newfound resolve. I thought it was just *chef's kiss*
I hope Su-mi will try to get to know Young-woo better now that she knows who she is. Young-woo deserves a mom and a role-model. Fingers crossed they find their way back to each other, not everything has to be about politics in life.

On a lighter note... the chaotic energy of Young-woo and Jun-ho chasing after Eugene Park is unmatched, what a pair of dorks... I'd die for them 😡
Lee Jun-ho, you're under arrest for carrying a lethal weapon around. Those veins could kill a person! 🥵

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I was smitten by those veins. If only they could be tele-transplanted into me🤤. Veins à la hot.

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i did enjoy her staring at his arm veins while he was driving.... ;) I like that this drama also shows that people with ASD have desires like everyone else, they just might not show it the way people are used to .

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The scene between Young Woo and CEO Tae was a gorgeous emotional scene. Thank you for bringing out the directorial choices that enhanced the writing and acting. I need to go re-watch it now.

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While I appreciate that the drama is showing Young-woo grow as a lawyer and a person and interact with various colleagues, friends, and family, I don't appreciate the way it is doling out the romance in tiny spoonfuls. How long do we have to wait for Jun-ho to be as honest as Young-woo? The drama is half over already, and time that could be spent exploring the ups and downs of a romantic relationship is being spent on suspense instead. I hope next week gives as much time to their relationship as this week did to her mother.

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Huh. I would say that's about right for a Kdrama. Wait for episode 12

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Right? Especially because this isn’t a Romance Drama I don’t mind. I actually like it. Slow burn romance is the only romance I like lol. My fave drama didn’t have a real kiss until ep 11 🤭

Seriously the “can I touch you to confirm my feelings” scene made me SCREAM more than any romantic k-drama scene in years 🫠

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Oh, my yes. Slow burns are very rewarding if done right. Also, I am with you about that scene. I was holding my breath.

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I’m okay with the wait because it is going to be both great and awful when it happens. Jun Ho must know what’s going to happen to him, socially. And Min Woo is unlikely to react in a way that reflects well on humanity.

I get the sense that Min Woo is somewhat okay with Jun Ho because even though Jun Ho wins on every desirability metric, Min Woo can console himself that they’re somewhat equals because Min Woo’s got the fancier job. But if Jun Ho deliberately turns down all the women in the law firm and pursues Young Woo?

Min Woo has all the markers of a man who will lose it, in the ugliest possible way. And he’ll only be the most obvious. Jun Ho will have a LOT of public scrutiny to weather, and as we’ve seen with Young Woo and her dad, she doesn’t really read those situations or provide comfort in them.

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Typical Kdrama!! But I like the slow burn, vs the American shows where the characters hop right into bed. Also, Jun Ho is aware that Young Woo would be uncomfortable being rushed, and he needs to respect the feelings of this unique woman.

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I loveeeed this week's episodes, I don't know where to start! Suyeon is one of my favourite characters. I thought she'd be the stereotype jaleous 2nd FL but she isn't. Even though she likes Junho she gracefully admitted defeat and went directly to him to challenge him on his feelings. She keeps defending Youngwoo and taking her side and I thought attorney Kwon got to her with his nasty speech about YW always winning. Sy kept true to herself and is a great friend and colleague.

I'm happy we're not dragging the mum mystery, everyone is aware of who's who and I was worried the show might keep YW in the dark until later on so it was a nice surprise for dad to tell the truth straightaway.

I genuinely thought ceo Tae was aware of who YW was and that's why she offered her the job so it was great that she was actually hired for her skills and nothing else. The mum and daughter moment with the tree was touching, not sure if we'll get another moment like that.

Finally, flirty Junho... do I need to go any further?!?! 😍😍

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What moment to squee about this week? So many to choose from.

- Attorney Jung getting dragged out of his own meeting room by a client by the hand.
- Little Miss Sunshine realizing Junho is whipped for WYW and immediately becoming wing woman.
Little Miss Sunshine yelling at WYW for thinking she’s not easily likable.
- “My feelings ARE NOT TEMPORARY”
- Little Miss Sunshine ripping Minwoo out for being a pathetic manchild.
- Little Miss Sunshine schooling the whole gossiping firm. (wow so much LMS, she rocks)
- WYW checking out Junho in the car and then opening the window afterwards (Veins people can commiserate with her I’m sure, or else you’re a hands/bones person like me, and went “oh he has a lovely radial fossa/ anatomical snuffbox”)
“That’s disappointing 🥺”
- WYW having her EUREKA whale moment during Dad’s Birth Secret Backstory Dump™ and switching topics so fast, dad probably got double whiplash on his way out the door.
- Attorney Jung calmly explaining why 3am is indeed 3am and therefore isn’t a possible time to do anything about the case.
- All of Junho's faces feeling all the things

Ah yeah. What'd I miss?

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I am a hands/bones person myself. 😉

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I can’t believe I missed WYW checking out Jun-ho scene in my list.

As a hands person, that was a very very nice. 😍

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Congrats on your latest ™️

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About the tree in the centre of this episode.

According to some information, it is a Celtis sinensis, sometimes called Chinese hackberry is a tree mostly grow on sandy soil with lots of moisture, always being found on land close to sea or river. This may probably a whale closest distance to meet the mountain, this is why Youngwoo meet her mother below this tree.

Posting this also because the website eaten my initial comment, and I cannot repost it (because it is "duplicate" to my last comment, which doesn't exist). As a result, I repost my comment here, so bear with me ...

First of all, I post this video several time on this website already, but I want to post it here so that we can put it in a right forum. This is my question: if CEO Han only jealous on CEO Tae "stole her husband", whom she wed probably simply out of political reason, I don't think CEO Han will go that emotional, right? There must be someone else (and Youngwoo's dad Gwangho is one of the huge possible candidates on the list), and I won't interpret "husband" in the literal sense.

This lead me to the relationship between CEO Tae and Youngwoo's dad. @unit said "I can’t come up with an excuse for her." I don't think so. We all know how huge family pressure on their sons and daughters' love life, especially someone like CEO Tae an heir of a big law firm (so as CEO Han as well, I guess), and by judging her reaction then and now, she did (and still do) love Gwangho, and really miss Youngwoo. As a result, I don't want to blame her too much, she probably being forced to abandon them, and still regret her decision till this very day (and no matter CEO Han is for good or for evil, I'm probably sure this issue will come up again sometimes before the show ends).

On the love-line, Surely we all are looking for a kiss between Junho and Youngwoo, but I think there is no kiss is a good thing: judge by Youngwoo's reaction, she is probably very painful at the time (remember facing ASD patients, you have to ask before touching them, because without they fully prepare themselves, this will be a very horrible experience--I know this because a colleague of mine has a 20-year-old daughter with Autism, with mind age of just 3). Therefore, kissing her is not a very romantic thing, and she escaped him is probably a very natural reaction.

This week episodes have me rewind quite a lot of time to rewatch and rewatch (even neglect some other shows). The mother-daughter part are one of the best, no doubt. I don't repeat why here, because probably quite a lot of you will talk about it here.

And now, even little bird, little sheep and Myeong-seok need to go to work now, so as I. Talk to you all later.

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i don't mind Young-woo and Jun-ho taking things extra slow. Just holding hands fully by the end of the series would be enough.

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Yes, they are going to need some time. Her father lived with her so long, so she is confident to be hugged by her father, but I guess Junho knew her for just several months. This one I like to take it slow.

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Thank you @unit for your continuing recaps.
I am sure Beanie’s will be singing praises and gushing—particularly about a certain swoony scene—so I will just point out a couple things I found in these episodes that brought me delight.

The EAW creative team is able to flesh out supporting characters with minimal scenes. Take Tae Soo Mi, Young Woo’s mother. Her reaction to the reveal was heartbreaking and it was clear that her decision was not an easy one for her and her feelings about Young Woo’s existence are complex. While we don’t see her story from her perspective, the writer gives us enough so that her character is not a thinly-drawn caricature, but a glimpse of a complicated, ambitious women who made a difficult choice and is living with the results. When she asked Young Woo if she resented her, it was clear this possibility has haunted her. Young Woo’s response and the effect on Soo Mi was sublime writing and acting. I could say this of other characters that could be written flatly. So far, we have see Geurami, Soo Young, Young Woo’s father all treated with the same care. I hope we see character dives into CEO Han, Min Woo, and Junho.

Is anyone else laughing out loud, or is this witty humor just my cup of tea? I find the editing at times so brilliant. Such as the timing of Young Woo’s countdown before entering the elevator matching elevator chime on beat. Or the storytelling idea supported by music of turning the absent minded village head’s search for a word into a quiz show competition. Young Woo’s excitement when she guessed the “right” word and disappointment when someone else did was priceless. Just clever touches like these that are not necessary for the story but add an artistic and storytelling layer that sets this drama apart from others.

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Totally agree. I was expecting the usual kdrama ugliness when it comes to birth secrets, but Soo Mi was shook because the little baby she had given up was right in front of her and she realized that she didn't recognize her baby. And that she might have hurt Young-woo by not recognizing her.

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I adore this show. I was very worried when I first saw the premise of the show but it has is a very thoughtful show. While I love WYW, the folks I adore, simple adore, are all the people in WYW’s corner - her dad, Geum-Ri, Su-Yeon, Jun-Ho, and attorney Jung.

They are beautiful examples of real people who get confused, frustrated, make mistakes but are ultimately warm and kind. I also love that the show doesn’t drag stuff out except for the romance. WYW already knows who her mom is and Tae Su-Mi already knows who WYW is.

My favorite scenes in no particular order
- Jun-ho and Su-Yeon’s conversation. Her frustration, his confusion, and her ultimate care for her friend was conveyed very well.
- Jun-ho moving from confusion to the confident flirtiness…
- Su-Yeon yelling about how WYW not being hired in spite of her high grades and near perfect bar exam score is discrimination
- Attorney Jung and WYW’s 3 am phone call. Him saying “everyone is sleeping now including myeong-suk” was hilarious and cute.
- WYW’s response when her mom asked her if she resented her. It was so full of sadness without anger or resentment. It was beautiful.

I hope the rest of the show continues to be lovely.

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Ah, you read my mind! The whole team WYW is beautiful and they are a true *team* - each one bringing something different to the working whole. And I LOVED that we got reveal about mum, meet with mum, dealt with mum done in the space of an episode - it absolutely fit the style of the drama. Yes, it's significant, we need to take a moment to reflect and ponder, but we don't need to let it dominate a drama that has more important things to say. So, so refreshing to have a who's-the-mother reveal take such a short amount of time! And totally agree with your favourite scenes - good call!

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One of the shortest whodunnits played out in kdrama.

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I totally get why Young Woo ran. Wanting to be physical and being ready to be physical are two very different things. And she probably didn't expect that some one could see her that way, so she there are a lot of other steps to be taken before she could be ready. Especially because she is kinda so/so on being touched in general. And Probs to Jun Ho to discussing it openly. Their communication will get them there.

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"That's disappointing.." *squeal!!!* It reminds me of that the scene of the two ladies in Our Blues squealing over the line - "but you liked it too".

I love Choi Su-yeon expressing everything I wanted to express after episode 7 had Min-woo in a snit over the nepotism thing. I loved how she announced it loud and clear. People, including herself, didn't pay attention or lift a finger when someone with autism was being discriminated, but now that person has an opportunity and an accommodation and is thriving and contributing well, they're all up in arms.

I love how Young-woo's journey here is to figure out how to become a more independent adult. It's a tricky balance that we have to work with here - making sure she is taken care of in a society that discriminates against the differently-abled on a daily basis, but also making sure she also gets those growing-up experiences that other people have, like dealing with disappointment.

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Great analysis on the balancing act the writer has to take.

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I think Korea has a different definition for nepotism. In the USA how she got the job was not nepotism as she does not have a familial relationship with the person her hired her. Her dad knew the lady. In the USA that's called networking and it's perfectly fine. In Germany they call it "vitamin B" as the word for relationship in German begins with a B. Maybe it's a big deal in Korea because networking was historically overused to keep people from getting jobs that would allow their families to move up in the world. I dunno...

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Definitely, it's a rich gets richer sort of thing while everyone else stay poor. Nepotism could also involve hiring close friends if there was favoritism involved.

I think the exception to have Young-woo be hired after the hiring cycle officially closed made it look like there was favoritism involved.

More than worried that Young-woo would be a shoo-in for the permanent position due to connections, he is mainly resentful of her hiring, because if she wasn't hired, she wouldn't have come in and blown everyone away with her skills. If/when she gets that permanent position, he can't argue that her skills are less than his.

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Nepotism doesn't involve just blood relations though. If I hired my high school best friend or her family for a job through indirect channels it would be nepotism as well. I think the problem is that Youngwoo got hired in an unofficial way - she applied officially but was not selected. And then after she was dropped officially and hiring was over she suddenly reappeared with a job and a note from the CEO saying they have to make room for her. I mean it is very obviously nepotism and had Youngwoo been an ordinary person without any disabilities this would have been a very big deal. Add the fact you can prove Youngwoo's father and the CEO studied together and are friends, it's the perfect example of unfair treatment.
But I think the show wanted to say that people like Youngwoo get discriminated and treated unfairly in every aspect of their lives, regardless of their abilities and talent, that the only way for them to make a normal living is through nepotism and illegal means. It's a powerful message and a scathing depiction of Korean society.

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Honestly, I think you're a bit biased towards WYW and unfair to her father. More than anything, I think her father has been underappreciated by WYW all along. I didn't have a problem with it until she gave Su-yeon a nickname (although we can say SY asked her for one); nonetheless, I don't think she has for once thanked her father or related to him. I'm not blaming her, but if we put ourselves in his shoes, we'll see how difficult that must have been for him.

You say all he has done is complain and keep her on a tight leash? I don't think so.

He never discriminated against her even before he knew she was on the spectrum. She, albeit not her fault, didn't really care for him while growing up. She asked him why she didn't have a mom, never looked his way when he got hurt and started to cry, and would not reveal her true feelings. Even when she asked him how it was living with her during the autistic guy's case, she didn't comfort her father afterwards.

Before I knew her father's back story, I felt for him. He abandoned his career to make ends meet for himself and his daughter, even moved to another town so she wouldn't get bullied (although she still got bullied), but he never got the comfort that other people get from their children. It was almost as if he lived alone.

Prior to this time, although WYW didn't totally act like an adult, he didn't insist on walking her to her workplace or asking her friend to follow her. Many parents would've done that but he did not.

Tae Su-mi and WYW's father, in my opinion, bot did wrong. If they weren't ready for a child, they should've used protection or not got involved in the act at all. TSM did not give life to the child. The child had life the moment she was formed. WYW's father took responsibility for his actions but TSM did not. Although I understand her actions, I do not justify them. If TSM could be understood, I think it's unfair to crucify WYW's father on the altar of overprotectiveness or not wanting his daughter to live as an adult. If anything, he is a super father and his type is rare in the world. I also don't think WYW is running away because she's on a tight leash. She just discovered that she's an adult due to the wedding gown case and is starting to act like one. Ain't nobody running anywhere. Her father only told her who her mother was, she still made the decision to not go there.

BTW, I've been following Dramabeans for years and reading recaps. However, this is the first time I would be watching a drama live and this is my first ever comment. I'm so excited about that! 😄

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I do agree with your take on WYW’s father - the scene if him sitting alone outside her hospital room after his heartfelt talk with her, saying he regretted not being able to do more for her, just gutted me. She wasn’t able to respond to his emotions and feeling by reassuring him that he was a good father. Instead, she kicked him out so she could work on the case.

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Had to 'whoa whoa' after seeing Junho’s arms too 🥵 98% sure that my heart just wasn’t beating at the end of ep.7, idk how she made it home on her own two feet, I would’ve just passed out then and there. Also as someone who was brought up by hard to please ethnic parents alongside a golden child younger brother, I never thought there would come a day when the line ‘that’s disappointing’ would be attractive and cause heart flutters, but here we are 💀

MVP of this week though - Wooyoung’s dad (followed by Spring Sunshine Suyeon). Actually communicating not one but TWO major plot points and treating your adult daughter like the adult she actually is? Unbelievable, show-stopping, phenomenal, never seen before (literally), amazing, fantastic, bravo 👏 Take some notes AoS Park Jin 👀

And Suyeon - I was bracing myself for it to take a nosedive when she confronted Junho about Youngwoo but YES SPIT FACTS GIRL & then I fell in love when she called Minwoo out straight off the bat and defended (at volume 50 no less) Wooyoung in the hallway 😍 I’m so glad Youngwoo has TWO amazing female friends by her side now - they haven’t had proper interaction yet but I really hope we do see Suyeon and Geurami becoming friends down the line too because that combination would be STELLAR.

*insert choice words about our fav Minwoo here*

Also Kang Taeoh only being only three years older than me has had me in a tailspin ever since I found out, because I feel like a 12 old most days and he’s like a grown up and that’s just wild.

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I think we all tired to "whoa whoa" and failed delightfully. 😂

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it's actually comical that I wrote both 'Youngwoo' and 'Wooyoung' and kept using them both 😂 I'm sorry Youngwoo*****!!! Curse the 2pm rabbit hole I've gone down recently and the lack of sleep that may or may not have something to do with the aforementioned rabbit hole 😂

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Lmao at that last paragraph 😂 I feel you, he's four years older than me but it definitely feels more like dog years than human years lol

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I probably enjoyed the reversal of the picturesque village under the rainstorm way too much. I have to commend the writer for getting so much mileage out of the storm:
-Attorney Jung, realising Hanbada needs to coordinate umbrellas if they want to beat Taesan (the things a leader has to think about...and ofc Junho packed exactly 5 umbrellas).
-Youngwoo almost gleefully telling the judge who fell down the hillside that she wore trainers to avoid that scenario 😂
-Youngwoo getting to do her whale tedtalk in court because of the indo-pacific bottlenose dolphin on the judge's umbrella.
-The peaceful mother-daughter moment under the hackberry tree once the weather had cleared up was a nice contrast to the previous chaos that had ensued there 😂

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And then the Tree won the case, to top everything off!

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This tree, together with the whales, are the emblems of this drama.

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It was understated because of the amazing balance of the scene, but the "oh yeah, now the tree is a natural monument" comment was a total mic drop. It completed the phrase "hi, I'm the daughter you gave up, and, oh yeah... I just beat you in court." Profound.

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I love this show. These two episodes were very good.

The regret expressed by Young-woo's father seemed so real and true. His anger at why she was hired felt natural but so did his decision to let it stand- this is what is best for his daughter. But I also do not believe that CEO Han is attempting to mis-use Young-woo as such, but rather that she is a form of insurance against Young-woo's mother. Dear Old Mom may still become the Justice Minister but she will not now be a threat to Hanbada. Even if the motives were less than pure the result is clearly beneficial to Young-woo - and to the Hanbada Law Firm in large part because of Young-woo's abilities.

As for CEO Tae's decision back then: It was wrong but in truth I doubt that she would have been a very good mother.

I love both of Young-woo's friends and have a fantasy that our Miss Spring Sunshine will get swept off her feet by a (very nice) Chaebol Heir, whose parents will automatically be able to accept her because she is, after all, the daughter of a prominent Senior Judge. Said judge would not have found Junho acceptable anyway so, even if she has a bit of a crush on him, it would have all been for naught in the end anyhow.

It is about time that Min-woo got the come-uppance that he deserves- or better yet chucked his inferiority complex and simply concentrated on being a true professional. He was good enough to get hired there on his merits- if he applies himself, he may discover that the only person he was ever really competing against was himself.

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I know this is a bit out of left field, but I cannot deal with the code-violation-kneecap-trip-railing in the hall/mezzanine at the Law firm. Somebody’s gonna die there.

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hahaha this is just the kind of thing that I see and drives me crazy 🤣

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Not sure if someone else notice but the violin piece that was played in episode 7 under the hackberry tree is called Traumerei by Schumann. It was play by the piano in the drama "Do You Like Brahm" with Park Eun Bin as the female protagonist. I love this piece and was so happy to hear it again in this drama. What a great idea and sensitivitiy from the writer! I'm in love with this drama!

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I just noticed the maturity rating on NF marks it as suicide/substance/self-harm. Why do we feel like it might relate to Jun Ho..or it could be cos of the earlier episode with the autistic brother..

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If the drama took the traditional drama route, Soo Yeon and Min Woo's roles could be gender reversed.
Min Woo will be swoony second lead and Soo Yeon will be a typical jealous female coworker. I watched many times in many dramas.

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We need more of this gender reversed roles in dramaland.

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I adored this week's episodes. Su Yeon is a darling for calling out Jun Ho and telling him to get his act together. And how he does! When he catches on what YW is asking he knows how to flirt! *fanning myself*
I'm very invested in the relationship here. I'd love the show to explore the difficulties this couple will face and prejudices JH will encounter as well as YW. I think it would make for even more thought provoking episodes.
And stick it to Min Woo...

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Just caught up on episodes 6 to 8. If Park Eun Bin does not win multiple awards for her portrayal of Attorney Woo then something is wrong in the universe. I also really love the portrayal of her boss Attorney Jung. I am a manager myself and this is exactly what a good leader does…supports their team even they may have made a mistake and encourages them to do their best.

I am also quite pleased that the show continues to have great pacing…have had too many instances lately where a good show starts to decline around the mid way mark.

I loved episode 6 with the North Korean defector largely due to the presiding judge’s character. I thought he was going to be portrayed as a caricature of an official who has been too long in his position. Loved it when Young-Woo and Su-yeon realized in their enthusiasm to defend their client they had ignored the very simplest of defenses and noted the ‘cleverness of a veteran’.

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I was glad that Su-Mi gave up her daughter before she found out she was autistic- I was worried that was the reason she left her daughter. At least there’s the possibility that mom and daughter can reconcile at some point.
Re the last two episodes, the judge actually had a good point in wondering who the plaintiffs represent - ie the residential committee or the actual residents. The fact that more than half the residents consented to selling their land given the right price, and that the resident committee basically just told people to “trust” them and sign a form in opposition to the highway development is a little concerning. The writers did a good job of suggesting that the case is more than just a David-good-small town-dwellers v. Goliath-bad-big city-developers. I don’t know if we’ll actually find out what the judge’s ruling is, but I’d be interested in knowing. That being said, I really don’t want that magnificent tree to be cut down….

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Yes, the characters are lovely and deserves every single bit of praise, but I also want to point out that I'm enjoying the cases the drama brings to the table. They are nothing over the top, but cases that are true to life. This particular case of constructing a road through the middle of a town was refreshing to watch. Well done Team Extraordinary!👏

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Well, I've just read this (with help of some Chinese translation), and I guess we need to put the point all together now.

This post on Facebook is putting

1. Youngwoo=little whale
2. CEO Tae Sumi=Big Mom Whale

3. In Episode, Youngwoo told Junho that no one have witness how baby whale is born from mother whale, because the ocean is huge, it can keep the secret.
Now CEO Han of Hanbada (literally mean "ocean" in Korean) knows true relations between Youngwoo and Sumi, and didn't tell anyone, yet.

4. In Episode 6, Youngwoo told Suyeon the most brutal way to hunt whale is first hunt her little whale baby. Mother whale won't leave her offspring even though she fully aware she will be hunted if she stay behind.

5. With the light of unreleased outtake, we know part of the reason CEO Han and CEO Tae's rivalry is Sumi took Seonyoung's lover to be her husband.

6. If Sumi want to be the next Minister of Justice, the secret of Youngwoo must not go public.

7. Now is the question: Will the ocean (Hanbada) keep the birth secret (Youngwoo is Sumi's daughter), or will Big Mom Whale (Sumi) secrifice herself for the sake of little whale (Youngwoo)?

I guess it will be the last case of this drama ...

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3. It is Episode 2, for the correction.

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ha, I was thinking the same thing but you've put it better. Can't wait to see how it turns out

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Someone else pointed out that the rating for this drama mentions suicide. What if those opposing Sumi's move up the judicial ladder use Young-woo to get to Sumi. As a result of the damage and pain to Young-woo and her being denied this promotion, Sumi takes her life?

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"Suicide" in the rating is because Episode 3 has a suicide element. I think Sumi's sacrifice involve her career, not her physical life.

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"And with this, Young-woo says her goodbyes and walks away, leaving CEO Tae in tears."

She left me in tears too.

I thoroughly enjoyed this week's episodes!! Despite my deep dislike for MW, sadly there are individuals like him in the world who rather focus their time in taking down their opponent instead of using that time to work and improve themselves instead. (mans really took the "anon bulletin board" method i was like bruh)

ALSO I'm so happy to see Ki-yong gain more recognition these days! I've watched him in so many previous dramas as the funny side character. Its refreshing to see him in a serious, more "main" role with his own tweaks of humour!

I was taken aback when they decided to reveal to YW who her mother was (compared to the usual drag out) this week! I was glad they decided to not take the usual route and that we can now move forward with our plot & hopefully gain more depth to our characters!

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Did anyone else notice how attorney woo was able to stare directly into her mother's face when they were having that meeting! I thought it was subtle and powerful. That scene made me cry as did them together by the big tree. Beautiful show on so many levels.

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Min Woo is such a nasty character, I expect an epic redemption story for him.

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"That's disappointing"! Our man went from sweet friend to seductive charmer with just a few well delivered lines!! Is it hot in here?!!

I'm so glad Su Yeon immediately supported Young Woo when she realized that Jun Ho liked YW rather than herself as she had hoped. This could have gone ugly and jealous but SY was an awesome friend here. Great writing!

I was not pleased on learning the original Korean title of this drama translates more directly as something like weird attorney WYW. How awful that autism is considered negative and weird. I'm glad the English translators went with extraordinary, much more positive and accurate!

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As despicable a character Min-woo is turning out to be, I actually loved the scene where he practically screams that Young-woo is strong. Sure, there's a lot of insecurity driving him, but that insecurity is there because he actually recognizes better than everyone else just how formidable Young-woo is — a twisted form of respect for her capabilities, but respect nonetheless.

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