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Open Thread #770

Happy Friday everyone!

Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.

 
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So I am off to vacation to the furthest island in Estonia called Vaindloo. I could end up seeing Russian ships s so I wore an ukrainian vyshyvanka and if they should pass I will restage the „warshiop go…!“ photo.
And then, I am going berry picking with an italian friend who bought a farm in Estonia.

Next week, Kihnu island and kpop festival, where I do a workshop (wearing my own hanbok). We will paint joseon style „Wanted“ posters of kpop idols based on description. And we will play ddakji. There will also be dance covers, and free korean food from Tallinn King Sejong Institute. Whats more – it is right next to my house, haha

Busy week, I hope you guys have fun too! Summer is half way through already!

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Just picturing the wanted pictures after seeing them in all those dramas has put a smile on my face I love it! You are truly living the dream.

Would be great to see a picture of your hanbok did you order online or buy when visiting ROK? I am tempted to order one but as I am tallish I wonder if the adjustment range will cover my body shape without trying one on in person.

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I made it myself. slightly modified. lets see if I got a picture here in the files, I will post it on my wall

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that said: any recommendations which idols have distinct features to draw? If you can actually write a verbal description here in the comments + name & group, would be swell! [im deliberately old fashioned since I hate gen Z slang a la bet, legit, bussin etc]

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Eric?

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I hope you get some recommendations re idols I don’t follow K pop so won’t be of any help I just like a couple of songs from certain dramas OST’s.
By the way, none of that slang meant anything to me so I am clearly well out the loop🤣

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(I just want to say that legit comes from legitimate/ly and does not originate from Gen Z ahem- in fact it goes all the way back to 1897 but yaknow...)

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☺️1897 who knew?!

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I just saw a load of letters 🤣 I didn’t even see legit hidden amongst them.

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My bad! I just read an article on Victorian and Edwardian era slang, but legit wasn't listed ... i dont know what era 1897 is tho

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I didn’t realise it was that old! It seems like a phrase you’d see in historical fiction and be like “argh anachronism!” Interesting.

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1897 is late Victorian yes haha.
Idk what article you found, but my source was Etymonline, 😅😅

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@beffels
Confession: I didn't actually either. I knew it was older than Gen Z by a large margin, which is what made me comment in the first place, but checked just to make sure and what do you know!!!!

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Taec - ears! 😁

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Hah. I would've had so many back in the day. Being a bone person and all. Most of them will have prominent cheekbones and jawlines because that's what I'm fascinated by.
Let's see if I can recall any.

San, from Ateez.
Jongup, from B.A.P (RIP B.A.P)
Choi Jun-hyuk, from Hotshot (RIP Hotshot)
I've always found Key (SHINee) and Jiyong (GDragon) to have fascinating features, personally. They might not be the distinct you're looking for but some of this is subjective.
Aiyoo there'll be more for sure but that'll do for now.

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Wow! It sounds wonderful
The highlight is the free Korean food 😁

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that sounds like so much FUN!! be safe, wear a mask please.

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"a bought a farm in Estonia"! I envy your friend.

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Netflix lost another 1 million subscribers. Netflix co-CEO Reed Hastings admitted on the earnings call that "it's tough losing a million [subscribers] and calling it a success," but he reiterated that the company is "set up really well for the next year." The company still has 220 million subscribers globally, but most of subscription losses are in North America, the most profitable region.

Netflix is betting on hit original content but more importantly “franchise” content that can keep viewership and produce less risky sequels. For example, Squid Game season 2 plus an actual game show is a franchise model in the works. Netflix spent more than $200 million for the film, The Gray Man, which it sees as a James Bond type franchise. It is a stretch to claim to have a superstar franchise like Bond before the release of the film. Rotten Tomato scored it at 52 calling the plot and action sequences “luke warm leftovers from better films.” Ouch.

Earlier this week I lamented the possibility that Alchemy of Souls could be testing the waters as a franchise type series since it has a grand universe with Harry Potter, anime and martial arts elements and a large cast of characters. I hope not.

The only thing Netflix still has going for it is that is still making money ($1 billion last quarter). All the other major streaming platforms have been losing money. It begs the question: streaming may be great for content distribution but may be a terrible business model for content creation.

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Squid Game getting franchised and an actual formal game show made out of it... Oh the irony.

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I’m never sure if franchise content is the answer. I barely go to the movies now because it’s all franchise content so nothing seems interesting. I guess there’s a balance.

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'Franchise' content has been abysmal this year, and often quite off-putting, as Disney has learned to its chagrin. Why did they put an overtly racist scene between an Asian man and black woman into the Obi Wan series? Why, Disney, WHY?

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On Chinese social media Weibo, posts favorable to "Alchemy of Souls" are certain that there will be season 2 while replacing FL actress.

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1 more new laptop - need to have enough money to start you own Laptop brand.

Beautiful summer - 35 is fine but 80% humidity isn't. 43 you can deal with when humidity is hardly 15% but 35 with 80% - that's what clouds and rain do. 15 minutes of fun and days of "oh no". Fun demands price.

Few months back i said - it gonna be fun - and mother nature really brought fun this summer in Europe. Time to enjoy. No one can whine.

England vs. india cricket 3rd ODI was fun - 35+ and spectators directly under sun - commentators kept on speaking about heat wave and weather and director kept on showing people with water bottles and ice. police with ice cubes. ok ok - If its summer then why watch match in a stadium where their is no roof. There was no noise at all - no excitement and action from spectators. why bought tickets then. watch at home.

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protest season has started - life without a protest is pretty boring. Not some trivial protests. you want to see some actionable protests.
When you win the next target is always independent institutions. sensible politicians always go for that. They are the measures that can challenge your accumulated and consolidated power. You don't even need to put "Yes men" in such positions. Those who incline towards you ideologically are always chosen. Benefits are the bribes.

Judiciary is just 1 such institution - Very easy game - always played. nothing new, nothing majestic. boring for sure.

If you have all the control then who gonna step into the field to play the game. You keep things uncertain so as to not make people lose hope and then street struggle happens.

Hope - a +ve actually turns big -ve most of the time for most.

They are smart - play the game - enjoy the game and get most out of it and everyone just keep fighting among themselves.

Yeah - you are on receiving side but you have to overcome your own foolishness to have a chance and so far i have not seen much sense from common man, much less from voters and citizens.

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Happy weekend Beanies and keep Beaning On!

Things have been not so good this past month. I already mentioned the mono a few weeks ago, but a lot more has happened that was too overwhelming to talk about at the time.

My grandmother currently suffers from a skull fracture after a nasty fall from the stairs at her place and is finally stable enough to stay at the rehab department in the hospital. I cannot recall everything from when it happened because of the mono induced high fevers, then again, way more stories of chaos and blood than I would have liked.😦Grandfather agreed to a temporary stay at a retirement home, since he understands that we cannot take over grandmother’s caregiving duties. It will be hard to break this news to grandmother, because she is determined to return to her beloved home. Unfortunately, their health no longer allows them to live in their place. The family is now looking into what could be the right place for them and taking turns visiting both of them and running their errands.

My employer contacted me during this period to warn me about a penalty as a result of missing sick notes. Since I have triple proof of handing in my sick notes on time, I did not let this slide, but it has been an unnecessary source of fury and anxiety on top of the grandparent worries. This long weekend I was going to escape for a bit to my friend’s place, but it got cancelled because she and her parents got covid.

Fortunately, the universe is using this long weekend as time to rest. I got to visit both of my grandparents for the first time this week. I got my employer to settle for a sick note copy after sending them enough proof. My blood test results have improved over the last 3 weeks, even though we are not fully recovered yet.

When it rained back then, it poured. At least it has stopped raining for now, and I can only hope that the sunshine will soon return.☀️

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Oh no poor you, physical and emotional stress attacks, it must have felt so overwhelming. Thankfully you are coming out the other side on both fronts.

Maybe the cancelled weekend, great as it was going to be is a blessing in disguise as it could have been too much to handle and now you can take it easy.

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It probably would have been too much, yes. A sleepover next month is on the radar and I got to catch up on some K-drama episodes instead, so it is all right. :)

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Take care! Hope you get some rest and respite.

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Thank you, so far so good! :)

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Hope everyone in your family recovers soon. Fighting!

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Thank you, only time will tell! :)

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@turtuallysarcastic sorry to read your post. I'm so sorry to read about your grandmother, but that is a common response with elders.
I'm glad you were able to visit, but still take care of yourself okay?
Sending hugs to your whole family!

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Thank you for the hugs and the important reminder! I completely understand Grandmother, I would not want to find out I had to move out all of a sudden either, and I partly grew up in their lovely place!

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Well they are lucky to have you in their lives right now!!!

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Thank you for saying that! :)

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Does anybody here still use Kakao?? I set up an account back in the BC era (Before Covid) for Beanie meetups. Now they are about to delete me for being inactive and I'm wondering if it is worth saving it. I don't have any use for it besides communicating with Beanies.

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:o! I still have mine! I just make sure to login at least once a year so I don't loose my account. Regaining it and my id and all would be a bitch so I'd recc trying to keep it just because of that.

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Sounds reasonable, but...
...since I have gotten a new phone, Kakao wants me to set up permissions and it refuses to let me proceed unless I give it permissions that I don't want to pass out freely.

So unless there's a real prospect of needing it to contact Beanies Kakao is toast anyway.

So, anybody ????

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Ahhhh. Hmmmm. Knowing Korean sns permissions and securities (they're super annoying and strict- still can't recover my Naver account sigh) if you don't want to give it, and can't see any other reason to have it, then letting it go makes sense.
Do you have it loaded on desktop btw? You might be able to bypass the phone steps if you download it too your pc?
I don't remember it asking for extra permissions to me last time, but I know I logged in on PC mainly for some specific reason, and it was easier for me.

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I moved out of state so I won't be doing any more CA beanie meetups. Maybe send a message in the kakao group chat and see if anyone is interested in meeting up.

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Lord help me I'm awake for the Open Thread...

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Is that waking early or staying up too late?

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Ahahahaha ... I'm NZST so God forbid I'd be getting UP at 2am if I could help it.

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Nowadays my current obsession is watching the cafe vlogs from the different Korean baristas and soothe myself with the "ice clinking in the glass ASMR" also the "soda ASMR" lol
Inspired by the cafe vlogs, I tried to make green mango ade and it was a decent success
I absolutely dislike ( read abhor) milk teas and can sparingly tolerate green tea and herbal teas (IRONIC considering I'm born in the region which exports maximum premium tea blends to the world) so I'm going to entertain myself with the different ades I can think of 😛
While waiting for the weekend to come, I binge watched Crazy love! I had really low expectations but I enjoyed for the duration without overabusing the FF button. I think it's alright for a single drama binge.
Can Beanies recommend me few binge worthy dramas with not too disappointing endings? The one week wait between Alchemy of souls will drive me crazy 😭
Why did I set foot in live watching territory after promising myself during Crowned Clown ugh...

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With the kind of tone that Crazy Love is, I'd recommend Business Proposal, Mr. Queen and One the Woman. I hope you haven't watched all three.

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Well I did watch business proposal last week but couldn't proceed past ep 10
Thanks for the other two recommendations ❤️

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OMG, a bunch of newly Netflix-acquired old, past Kdramas are arrived already this month: Imitation, She Would Never Know, Dali and Gamjatang, Youth of May, Sell Your Haunted House, Backstreet Rookie, Police University and My Unfamiliar Family.
Sadly, Today's Webtoon, Adamas and Big Mouth aren't on Netflix (but I hope that Today's Webtoon will not be a Netflix original but acquire to Netflix some months or even a year after airing). So I knew that Adamas and Big Mouth are officially coming to Disney+ while Today's Webtoon will be on Viki and even on Viu.
So I don't think that after Netflix officially acquired Extraordinary Attorney Woo, Alchemy of Souls and Cafe Minamdang, I don't know what next upcoming Kdramas that officially acquired to Netflix.

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Very frustrating that Disney+ is picking up so many of the recent KDramas...especially with their refusal to stream them outside of a limited geographical area (which I totally don't get).

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Disney+ doesn’t seem to publicize at all which kdramas they get here. I’m in a region that they do stream them but if I hadn’t specifically gone looking for them by title because I knew they would be there, I would never have known. Why bother acquiring them if you don’t want anyone to watch them?

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I always say Disney+ is where kdramas go to never be heard from again. None of the dramas they have licensed have been hits in SK but plenty of low-rated shows have been popular internationally. Disney+ seems determined to keep that from happening.

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@magajesj: I’m so keen on “Youth of May” as I have read a lot on the Guangju massacre and wanted so badly to see this Drama so am really stoked. Now, if I can get my hands on the film “Taxi Driver”, I’ll be even happier!

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Taxi Driver is on Viki now and I originally watched it on Amazon. And it's totally worth it!!!!

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@stpauligurl: Thank you!☺️

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You are most welcome. I finished it thinking of all the students around the world who have been so brave to cry out for change. And this story is another one of them.
Yes it's really good.

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@stpauligurl: It makes me so glad you’ve watched it too! And, I loved your comment. Btw, I hope you have been well. I often think of you and your son when I see your handle. I love knowing a bit about your life which you generously and movingly shared a while ago.

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Ah, thank you for that. I forgot about telling that story a while back.
Things are good here. I'm in the process of leaving one job to start another one - all in my home office, and its really weird. But I'm still watching my dramas and getting over a broken wrist and dealing with the heat.
But Taxi Driver is so powerful! It made me think of the students in Tiananman Square in the late 80s, and the students protesting in Iran (I think it was that country) whew. But I hope you are also doing well.

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More and more often I'm hearing about new dramas airing, then I have to go on a Lord-of-the-Rings style quest to find them streaming somewhere.

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For me they normally turn out to be on iqiyi so will generally turn up on Viki/Netflix about a year later 😅 not great for live watching

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Ji Chang-wook fans good news. His upcoming 16 eps. W/T drama from KBS, IF YOU WISH UPON ME is now on Viki US’s “Coming Soon” list. Thanks Viki for picking WISH up and not keeping us in suspense. Episode one airs Aug. 10.

Why as of today WISH is not on Kocowa’s “Coming Soon”, we’ll who knows.

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Extraordinary Attorney Woo's broadcaster ENA just released another clip originally in Episode 2(but not included in the end) showing the reason why Taesan and Hanbada are rival ... seems that CEO Han and CEO Tae are also used to be rival of a man (probably Youngwoo's dad?)

The clip: https://youtu.be/RRWSoa-a4vE

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No, I think it was CEO Tae's husband.

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Yes it was Tae Su-mi's husband. She asks "What mistake did I make? Stealing your man and making him my husband?" in the scene.

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Probably it is, @kurama. I am not good in Korean, and I know what it means by using Google Translate on their title as well some commenter's opinions. So I am looking for more proof.

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I'd like to take a moment to discuss the depiction of people with Autistic Spectrum in Dramas, sparked by the lovable Extraordinary Attorney Woo (a series that I am highly enjoying despite my reservations about the depiction of those with Autism). EAW seems destined to be transformed into a US multi-season series just like the Good Doctor. But the two leads of these shows are, I think, very atypical of the impact of Autistic Spectrum. Both of these characters are Savants with extremely high IQ's. They are both portrayed by attractive (non-Autistic) actors. Yes, they did well portraying the type of mannerisms and typical quirks someone with Autism might have, but on the spectrum, these two characters are EXTREMELY high functioning.

I have a nephew with Autism, and he is based on what I've seen far more typical. He would actually be considered pretty high-functioning. He graduated high school, can converse with others, and take care of personal grooming. But he will never be independent - he will always need a caretaker or supervision in a group home situation. He will likely never have a challenging job (he works as a bagger in a grocery store - I have seen other young men with Autism in similar positions. It's closer to the way Autism was portrayed in It's Okay to Not be OK, but without the level of talent

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I have my reservations about the depiction of autism in EAW too, though Park Eun-bin is absolutely enchanting in the role. I also find the romance angle with the young paralegal unnecessary & even irritating. Why are they pushing that so hard? I don't see the need for it.

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I didn't like the part where she closed her eyes expecting to be kissed. Her character is supposed to be innocent and for a lack of a better word Naive. I think I would like the drama a bit better if they'd just become close friends. A crush is definitely different from having real feelings for someone. I don't think they know each other that well to like one another or I could be wrong. The romance was cute when it wasn't out in the open and both parties didn't know how they felt. Plus i'm a bit skeptical about the ML since we don't really know his background much.

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Just another Kdrama concept I came up with.. I'm a fan of romance story lines but I also enjoy a good bromance.

Title: Two Sides of a broken heart
Genre: Melo-drama, slice of life
Starring: Park Hyun Sik, Park Seo Jun, Han Ji Min

Not realizing that they both dated the same woman at different times in their lives, two male strangers meet for the first time at their ex's funeral. Bonding over this fact, the two decide to become friends. They meet up once in a while for drinks to tell stories about their past relationships while coping with the death of their ex whom they both seem to not be over yet..

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Woah!

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Reuniting HWARANG’s Park brothers. I like it. I think this story could work in Joseon.

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Another potential hit!

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Do we have a drama hangout for "It is beautiful now"?

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So not only is husband watching Alchemy of Souls with me - he has twice this week asked if there are new episodes and also suggested REWATCHING an earlier episode to see what he missed 😱🤯 who is this man?! 😄

I still expect AoS to fall off a cliff at the end as that is the way of dramas so I don’t think this will carry over to other dramas, but it’s nice to have a watching companion in the same room as me 😄

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How fun for you! Some clues are hidden so deeply in the early episodes, a re-watch might be just the mid-week thing.

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My husband watched Hwayugi with me for a good ten episodes and then dropped it.

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I think I got maybe one episode of Hwayugi out of my husband but he’s watched a couple of dramas with me before all the way to the end (Strong Girl Bong Soon, Oh My Ghostess) so I’m hopeful. I have not mentioned season 2….

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I just finished the second season of Yumi's Cells. It doesn't seem to get much coverage here, but I have found both seasons entertaining. I get Reply 1988 feels from the "who is gonna be the guy," part of the show.

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I don’t want to spoil the last two eps of Yumi’s Cells 2 but I have a lot of thoughts which I will try and hold onto for later! But suffice it to say that I wish the plot and the motivation made sense to me.

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It all made sense to me, but personally, I kept interpreting his being "shaken" as a metaphor for cheating. Sort of making the whole thing PG-13 or something by just calling it being shaken.

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@athena:☺️ I should have been clearer. The subplot in the penultimate episode and its resolution was so disappointing to me.

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One fun thing about Asian dramas is spotting just how far 'world culture' stretches. I'm watch a mainland Chinese rom-com when, out of nowhere, they start discussing the merits of Raymond Chandler detective novels. Oh! That's cool! Awhile ago a k-pop song referenced the Virginal Woolf novel 'Mrs Dalloway' without bothering to explain the reference. I guess if you know you know.

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Seriously, Chandler novels? Which Chinese rom-com? I'm intrigued.

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