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Big Mouth: Episodes 13-14

We’ve left the prison behind for good and entered the domain of Big Mouse. Here, the mysteries are solved, the revenge plots begin, and the death toll continues to rise. At least our heroes get to ride it out in a nice hotel.

 
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Big Mouth Episodes 13-14

We start from the building explosion. It’s confirmed that Room Leader Noh did not survive and he was indeed Big Mouse — it wasn’t another fake out. It’s also confirmed very quickly that the mayor planted the bomb. The show appears to be done with drawn-out mysteries and wants to get down to vengeance ASAP.

Chang-ho goes to the morgue to mourn and then on to the burned-out restaurant. When the mayor’s hired hand tries to jump him, Jerry shows up with a cute side part and some henchmen of his own. Jerry has just joined the Big Mouse criminal enterprise recently and his current assignment is to protect Chang-ho and Mi-ho. We see Mi-ho and her dad being taken to a luxe hotel, owned by “the Organization,” escorted by men in black.

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Jerry takes Chang-ho to the mourning service for Big Mouse, where all the attendants are members of the Organization. Warden Park is there and we learn that, after Big Mouse, he was third in command. A video plays of Room Leader Noh giving his final message to his organizational “family.” He says that if they’re seeing this, it means he’s gone and that the group needs a new leader. After dragging it out a little, he names Park Chang-ho the new commander. Chang-ho is shocked (while the rest of us saw it coming from a mile away).

Warden Park is obviously upset that this newcomer now outranks him and demands to know who shot the video. In walks KIM SOON-TAE (Oh Eui-shik), Chang-ho’s lawyer and best friend (who until now has remained on the sidelines of the story). Soon-tae is second in command and he is the one that asked Big Mouse to save Chang-ho’s life.

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The two friends later have a heart-to-heart — Chang-ho blaming Soon-tae for ruining his life, and Soon-tae claiming he saved his life — and it becomes clear that Chang-ho doesn’t really have a choice of whether or not to take on the new role. If he doesn’t, he may be killed.

Chang-ho does not tell Mi-ho about his new job (this boy hasn’t changed a bit), but he does ask her opinion about whether or not to continue carrying out Big Mouse’s wish and solving the case about Dr. Seo’s paper. Mi-ho has no hesitation: she will see it through ‘til the end. If not, more people will die. Chang-ho agrees and, with that, he officially concedes to be the new Big Mouse.

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Now that Chang-ho is in a position of privilege, he and Soon-tae meet at the beach to clear up all the mystery lines we’ve been following and answer all our zany questions (plus, Lee Jong-seok in ripped jeans. Rawrrr.) Chief among them is: what does the room leader’s daughter have to do with the paper? Well, she was a reporter who went missing while investigating NR Forum. They found her body three years later, along with her notebook that mentioned Dr. Seo Jae-young. He was just about to be formally questioned when he turned up dead.

Chang-ho wants to do a deep-dive investigation into NR Forum and the Elder, a.k.a. CHAIRMAN KANG (Jeon Guk-hwan), and the team hits the archives. While Jerry gives a PowerPoint presentation of the city’s history and the chairman’s role in its development, Mi-ho pieces together that his company NK Chemicals is responsible for the rise in cancer patients. At the same time, Joo-hee separately becomes aware of the same information. She has ignored the hospital’s secret underground lab all this time, but now, as commissioner of the audit committee, she wants Chairman Kang to shut down NK chemicals.

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When the chairman refuses, the mayor admits to his wife that he killed Dr. Seo. She’s baffled and heartbroken and wants to know why. He tells her that as a condition to be able to marry her, he agreed to do any terrible thing the chairman asked. He cries and says he’s never regretted marrying her and she has no idea she’s being played. She goes straight out and has the lab destroyed — not out of the goodness of her heart — but to get rid of the evidence.

Warden Park has some guys go try to kill Mayor Choi as comeuppance for killing Big Mouse. They don’t succeed, but this gets Warden Park almost murdered by his own organization for stepping outside the chain of command. It’s really graphic and I won’t go into it, but it’s shocking to see Soon-tae turn into a completely different person than the quiet and nerdy friend we’ve known him as. Chang-ho has also seemingly morphed into The Godfather. When Warden Park is kneeling in front of him, beat senseless, Chang-ho sits in his chair unaffected and tells him he’ll die if he steps out of line again.

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Chang-ho’s plan is to expose the mayor for his crimes. To do this, he sends himself undercover to gain the favor of the chairman. He says he’s running for mayor in the next election and wants the chairman to back him. It works, and the chairman invites Chang-ho to his upcoming 85th birthday bash. Chang-ho also teams up with Ji-hoon, telling him Big Mouse didn’t steal NR Forum’s money, and he should look internally for the culprit (we know it’s the mayor because we saw him sitting on all those gold bars a few episodes back).

While Soon-tae, Jerry, and Chang-ho are riding around together (and I’m feeling like this should have been the whole show because this is much more fun) they realize they’re being tailed. It’s Mayor Choi’s secretary, who gets a video of all the Organization members bowing to Chang-ho when he gets out of the car. The mayor realizes Chang-ho is the new Big Mouse and asks Warden Park to team up with him to kill Chang-ho. The warden agrees.

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While all those backdoor deals are going on, Mi-ho has figured out Mayor Choi’s secret history and that he is positioning himself to take over for Chairman Kang. We’ve had most of the clues already, but this week it gets laid on the table. Chairman Kang killed Mayor Choi’s grandfather because the two were best friends but the grandfather opposed NK Chemicals. Since then, the mayor has been plotting revenge against the chairman. He started as a child, taking over his cousin’s name and identity after he died. This allowed him to marry Joo-hee to get inside the family without anyone knowing who he was.

Chang-ho sends Warden Park on a mission and Jerry follows him because he doesn’t trust him to comply with Chang-ho’s orders. Jerry gets caught, knocked in the head, and thrown in a trunk. When he comes to, Chang-ho is tied up and the warden is pointing a gun at him, with the mayor on video chat in order to witness the event. The warden then shoots Chang-ho at point-blank range and it becomes clear this is a setup.

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When the mayor arrives to the scene the body is already gone and the warden starts asking questions about the mayor’s intent to kill Chairman Kang. The mayor admits his intent and we see Chang-ho and the chairman watching the whole thing on screen from the chairman’s house.

Chairman Kang calls the mayor to his house afterward but the mayor intuits what’s up. He kills the chairman by putting something in his IV that causes a heart attack. He then has the chairman’s will doctored in his favor and becomes chief mourner at his funeral. When Chang-ho shows up at the funeral — alive — he surprises the mayor and tells him to prepare for a showdown.

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Well, I’m ready for this show to wrap up. Now that everything is out in the open I don’t feel much urgency for next week. Chang-ho is becoming tough to root for. Mayor Choi has gone from a nuanced villain to The Joker, joining the rest of the goons in their cartoonish portrayals. Jerry, luckily, is the one person who hasn’t really changed — he turned out to be just as much of a sweetheart as we were led to believe when we got to know him.

With two episodes to go, my sincerest hopes are that Joo-hee will be the one to take down her husband, Mi-ho will get back as much as she’s putting in, and Hye-jin will get more than a passing remark about her death. It’s not looking good for any of them, though.

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... but, but... where are my Zombies? my CLONES? Anyone? Anything at all? 🥺

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Yoona's nose starts bleeding and she looks through the mirror to us, the audience. "Oh no, I have leukaemia," her eyes say as they look at us with... zero actual emotion because this is Yoona and woman cannot act.
And I... start laughing. Because I do not care. At all. She could explode with blood pouring out of her like some kind of hemorrhagic fever and I would not care one iota.
(Not true, I would laugh and feel some kind of catharsis at one of her insufferable characters dying for once.)
This is the magic of Yoona.

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I just saw the scene and she just looks at camera with a blank face... gosh
And also saw the scene when she says she will kill the mayor and that's all she could say. I know she's following the script but a little improvisation would be nice and that's what she lacks

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I thought for a moment I'm back watching SWEET HOME with the nosebleeds, and just cracked up at that.
I don't hate Miho, but if the surprise Lukemia is the result of running into that cave unprotected, then I enjoy at least some actions in this show have consequences.

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ANYway... Lmfao? Wtf? What an anticlimactic Big Mouse reveal. So glad I dropped.

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I still think it's secretly Jerry and he's just setting up various organisational figureheads so he can work in secret.
idk the show is so narratively lightweight and if I hadn't seen Vagabond, which was also just as pointless, I might be annoyed but watching something where the writers go, "nothing's really that important, oh look a mcguffin" is par for the course.

Apropos of nothing, LJS looks SO BORED so he's well aware that there's little of interest here.

I'd pass the baton but with one week left I may as well just finish it. Even if I nearly forgot to watch these week's episodes at all.

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I'm gonna start praying for a wild ass last week reveal just because.

One good thing about these writers... at least they're consistent at being... whatever it is they are... if you can call that a good thing lmao

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LJS looks so bored? Now i want to watch these episodes just to see it🤣

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Jerry would have been a fun reveal with plenty of foreshadowing you only understand after the fact. He could've done the *heist thing* of explaining how he fooled everyone with flashbacks.
Not to mention that Jerry is THE ONLY SCAM ARTIST IN A STORY ABOUT A LEGENDERY CONMAN.
Kind of tired of uber sucsessful 20somethings year old in kdrama but ill make an exception in this instance, haha
RL made sense too, but my gosh was the execution anticlimactic.

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"He could've done the *heist thing* of explaining how he fooled everyone with flashbacks."

That's something we never get - an explanation of anything because it would require events to make some kind of sense. You just know BM is not going to gather everyone in the library in the last episode like an Agatha Christie villain to give us chapter and verse on his crimes and retributions. Maybe going back to Chang-ho's athletics track would be a better venue, then all the BMs could demonstrate by passing the baton in a relay race.

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I don't think he looks bored, but the script isn't calling for 100% of his talents. Also, I got the feeling that he enjoys scenes where he taunts the cartoonish villain Ji Hoon, but it could just be the bromance between the two actors😅

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It's kinda weird to say but I actually chuckled alot during the Big Mouse memorial because *of course* it would look like that. *of course* Chang Ho would be crowned the successor even though he's the newest and wants nothing to do with things. Of course the Big Mouse conspiracy network is called "The Organization".

I do kinda get why they would want Chang Ho to be the face of the group because if they are supposed to move in secret but they want to directly deal with people, why not have the guy everyone has seen and dealt with before who also has a way with words.

The warden's reaction wasn't surprising but it's not like *he* was going to be the new head boss of everything.
And yay! I was right about the friend. It's satisfying being right about things haha (whether it's predictable or not, I am still like yay me haha)

All I think about during the last episode was "we're in the endgame now"
I'm just personally not one for all the scheming and betrayals; I prefer things clearly stated which is why I would say I prefer Jihoon over all the other antagonists shown. He is pretty much basic. Basic motivation, basic drive, basic temperment. Nothing surrpising when he does anything because one would expect him to react in that way.

I get the appeal of a nuanced antagonist. I wonder if it's possible to be a nuanced Joker haha

I'm glad it was mentioned that it was like he turned into the godfather because I thought that too haha
And if Chang Ho completes what they what him to do, will the best friend end up becoming the new Big Mouse or is the group or should I say The Organization on the path to being ruined and desolved? In my head, even though they are shady or corrupt too, I think they are robin hoods compared to the other rich and powerful folks so apart of me does want some version of it to continue. But a reformed version definitely won't happen if the warden is still there so I don't know.
Sooo, Miho's symptoms is due to running into that cave without any protection, right?
I'm kinda of two minds about because it was an emergency situation so maybe she couldn't even consider putting on the body suit and mask but on the other hand, why did she run in?! She could've just waited for the emergency services that was called or waited to see if the guy came out on his own. I don't know.

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"Why should this mediocre lawyer become the next BM???"
"Well, he's the male lead"
" Oh!!!!!! Why yes ofcourse; boss welcome to our secret slumber part-ORGANIZATION we are only ruthless criminals when its convienient to the plot"

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I really lack the words and emotions for this week's eps.
It was good when it started but now its getting more political (how HOW is he gonna become mayor he did zero campaigning) i guess?

While Soon-tae, Jerry, and Chang-ho are riding around together (and I’m feeling like this should have been the whole show because this is much more fun) I completely agree I'd rather watch an entire ep of this.

Aside from that, we had an abundance of plot twists this week although I had my suspicions over Soon-tae and his reveal was actually nicer than the highly anticipated BM reveal (WHICH I THOUGHT WAS A FAKE BUT ITS REAL???????? I REALLY DIDNT BELIEVE IT?!) in which they killed him off the second it got interesting :/

The entire "kill CH" scene was kinda painful, I experienced a severe case of second-hand embarrassment (real diagnosis) due to the awful-acting-emotionless-line deliverance from Warden park (its like he gave it his all in the first half and gave up for this) and tbh if i got tied up and had a camera shoved into my face half the time id start laughing.

Also Ms Miho idk what you expected when you ran into danger with zero protection thinking you were god or smth.

Anyways, I'm just looking forward to the end cuz I have no idea how they are gonna wrap up everything in the span of two eps.

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It was good when it started but now its getting more political (how HOW is he gonna become mayor he did zero campaigning) i guess?

The first couple of episodes were actually funny for me because the supposed villian (Ji Hoon) was very ridiculous that I couldn't see him as a serious opponent, but the show got better with Choi Doha's gray character, but again it turned into a complete farce. I couldn't stop rolling my eyes at the "election" plot. Such an overused trope which doesn't make any sense here because the plot was centered around bringing the chairman and his organization down.

second-hand embarrassment (real diagnosis) due to the awful-acting-emotionless-line deliverance from Warden park (its like he gave it his all in the first half and gave up for this)

Accurate because only Yoona (MiHo) and Kim Joo Hun(Choi DoHa) are still playing their characters sincerely and with dedication. It looks like the director observed KJH's effort and halfway through the show decided to award him the ultimate villian role 🙄 Also, I do not understand why there are comic scenes of the scray old man Yang Chun Shik trying to run a restaurant.

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I expected "political" because in the initial Big Mouth synopsis, it said something about exposing a conspiracy among politicians. Since it wasn't that prominent during the jail break era, I figured it would happen after Changho gets out and it did. So it's not surprising nor disappointing to me.

I'm still annoyed with how the writer made Miho get leukemia. At least have her go inside with protective gear to save that guy and somehow still get leukemia. But she really went in, thinking she's immortal when everyone else was scrambling out WITH protective gear. Really put a dent on how smart Go Miho is supposed to be because that was quite the dumbest move I've seen in Kdrama. I liked Miho whenever she showed up onscreen but maybe becoz of my annoyance at how she went in like that, I don't even feel THAT upset she probably has leukemia now. Trouble she could have avoided but she chose to be stubborn and listen to only herself instead of her father.

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So Noh Park is really the Big Mouse? That's anticlimatic and not fun. I was hoping it would be Gong Jihoon or the Prosecutor.
I was thinking the whole time how Soontae and Changho's FIL were absolutely not being helpful at all at crucial times. Oh it turns out...
But i'm confused, who framed Changho as BM in the first place? Who put all the money and drugs in his office?

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I can't remember the specific timeline but the friend (Soon Tae) initiated the frame job to save Chang Ho. I really don't remember what specifically happened that it even became plausible but once it was decided, "The Organization" probably just planted everything while the friend oversaw things and did whatever else on the outside to set him up.

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I don't mean your post is pure nonsense, I mean the plot is pure nonsense! 😄

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It's pure nonsense. 'The Organization' already had a lawyer as their No. 2, so why would they need another one, especially one as seemingly henpecked and useless as Chang-ho at the beginning? If Soontae only set him up to be accused as BM so he'd be safe from the hospital murderers in prison, that makes no sense either. The real BM was his room leader and the warden was #3, they could have kept him safe anyway. The whole thing is stupendously idiotic.

Room leader's excuse that he needed someone higher up to fight the elite on their own level makes no sense either because it was the gullible and useless Chang-ho that was being set up for this role. Or maybe he had a crystal ball as well as tarot cards and instinct told him CH would eventually morph into The Godfather.

However we look at it, CH has been played by everybody and I'd have had more than a polite conversation with my best friend if such an elaborate trick was played on me. And they ARE best friend's for God's sake. Couldn't Soontae have just sounded him out and recruited him into the Organization? Which takes me full circle again, because why would they even want him? He wasn't ambitious, devious, violent or ruthless, he didn't have a social conscience, his only useful trait was his malleability because he was easily influenced by those around him.

I keep saying it, but it makes no sense. My fault for expecting it to make some sense but wouldn't it have been awesome if it did?

My final words are reserved for Mi-ho. What wife finding out her husband isn't really dead after all, and getting a mumbled apology from the husband who never tells her a thing, would react so inadequately? Tears and reproach would surely be accompanied by the kind of attack she launched on the Mayor. I'm just saying ... if CH was my husband he'd have got a massive smack for that.

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You worded this very precisely. Gosh people are so good with words!

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I was planning to watch this today but I think I might just wait for the last episodes to air and watch all four so that I minimise any angst.

I'm lazily trying to skip spoilers and hoping Jerry actually has a big role in all this in the end 😅

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Who would say Changho's a bad Big Mouse?! He is the BEST Big Mouse!! And I believe he had previously proved himself back in the prison. I think the best thing about him is that he is so out of the place there(mentally maybe) that every time he wants to strike he thinks this would probably kill me but let's go for something BIG, cause I'm probably already dead.
Once more, I'm happy with the pace of this drama, everything is right at the time! Only one down point, although I knew all that Miho going into the facility right when it exploded was not for nothing, but how much radioactive content that water had for Miho to get cancer, I'm not sure what's on the writer's mind, but I think they want to kill Miho so Changho would have a reason to stay as the Big Mouse.

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This show took a serious dive the moment BM was revealed- the characters/plot/writing is just NOT strong enough to hold my attention
A few notes:
-Explain to me why Mayor Choi and his ONE secretary are more menacing then the entirety of the Big Mouse orgnization. Mayor Choi should have been Big Mouse's successor, for real
-ok but, like, other than being an organization, what does the Big Mouse gang even DO. This show has a certain tendency to push away the criminal aspect of characters and then dial it up to 100 depending on the plot.
-I dont understand the hype about Chairman Yung. The show want me to like this character so bad, why?
-Let Jerry curse during the meeting! The four of you have half a personality between you already, dont bring the comic relief down!
-wasn't Big Mouse described as a prolific, high stakes conman, who gambles huge amount of money overseas? Room Leader mostly seems like being BM is this gig he does on the side and doesn't actually like.
-No, show, Changho isn't cool.
Did a LOT of fast fowarding, as expected since the show lost its momentum

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You missed Ju Hee. What's the point of her role?

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Juhee was in the plot to serve that increadible look in ep 11, ofc!

..... I suspect that once she stopped being a suspicion sink for the Mayor, the writers werent sure what to do with her

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"-Let Jerry curse during the meeting! The four of you have half a personality between you already, dont bring the comic relief down!"

Haaaaaaa!! Well said.

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I saw a video titled "Why Big Mouth is praised as a masterpiece?" and I instantly laughed. It's not because I agree or disagree but because the moment I saw the title, I just thought of this comment section haha

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I feel frustrated with the serious under utilization of Kwak Fong Yeon as Jerry. It is almost ep 14 and I do not understand why he signed up to be a side kick in a stupid drama🙄 I also know I will not be enjoying even if he is revealed to be the No.1 commander next to BM because it is too late to cram in the fun.

I did not get the hype for LJS's suit/clothing previously, but his coat at the funeral was damn. He looked like a runway model. As far as the plot, it is meh. I expected a big surprise at the birthday party but they took the entire focus away to plant an obvious twist🙄

They better explain the serial killer's code for "mom getting treatment" at the hospital. Such a ludicrous drama.

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Jerry is so fun, even just as a sidekick, but I dont like his new job as some sort of (weirdly serious) henchman. I swear, if this is not a main lead or the mayor, the show has no idea what to do with the characters. It could have been a heist like "getting the gang together" but, alas...

I feel like a total weirdo, but I liked the prison outfits better, for the most part haha (the suit in ep 8 still stands supreme)

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I am pretty amaze of the writer, since big mouth is a person, having a name jerry and acyed by kyd, naturally, big mouse is also a person, so likely kdy and he fits rhe bill, scram people, that's what big mouse do. Writer slowly provided clues, jerry tatto, policeman tattoo, warden park tattoo, it gotme thinking, big mouse could be an organisation. Most scamers, they don't work alone, like in any drama, a group of them to pull off big scam, so reasonable that it is an organisatio that scam jihoon 100 billion. I am now very interested how and likely mayor got the money. Writer is good, please last 2 episodes end up well. Kdy role may be small, not exactly but he played a big part in leading this perception of who is the big mouse. He readily agree to this role unlike his earlier drama, the pd took sometime to convince him to act. Whereas this role, he is loyal not a betrayal like his other role, good for him for a change.
Another actor, oeh, soon tae, wow never thought he could smash like that. The directing, script and acting is really very good. Hope for satisfactory ending and who knows, does chang ho was to continue to lead big mouse org or will he pass it to someone as he said to warden park, he is there to average team leader no park and nk forum.

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This drama shot itself in the foot with all its Big Mouse fake outs. By the time Room Leader Noh claimed he was Big Mouse, I just rolled my eyes. Even as he was being arrested and hired Chang-ho as his lawyer, I still believed Chang-ho (and secretly hoped Jerry) was Big Mouse. But now they're telling me Room Leader Noh really was Big Mouse? Disappointing.

I can't even recall what Room Leader Noh went to prison for. Revenge for his daughter? Was Jerry purposely sent to prison to serve his boss? I was surprised Warden Park was that high up in the organization since I figured he was small fry.

The opening of Episode 13 gave Soon-tae away. I never suspected him until this episode, but the scene focused on him a little too much in the car. Now that we know Soon-tae is second in command, I just assume Room Leader Noh faked his death like Chang-ho staged his.

Only Chang-ho could be shocked at being named the new Big Mouse when it was glaringly obvious. Their organization and Yang Chun-sik's gang are practically vigilantes now taking down Chairman Kang and the real villain Choi Do-ha.

How much do Mi-ho and Dad know? That their husband and son-in-law is the new Big Mouse, and Soon-tae has been lying to them the whole time? I hope Mi-ho tells Chang-ho she now has leukemia.

I agree with you, @Dramaddictally, in that I'm ready for this show to wrap up.

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