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The Real Has Come: Episodes 1-16 (Drama Hangout)

We’re trying something new and giving you a Drama Hangout if you’re a fan of epicly long KBS weekenders! Here is your space to chat as you watch The Real Has Come, with Baek Jin-hee and Ahn Jae-hyun in a contract marriage… with a baby.


Beware of spoilers! This thread is for discussing the entire series.

 
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How is this hangout new if other shows have had drama hangouts?

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They mean this is the first one for the long KBS weekenders, which are more soap opera-ish and usually 50+ episodes.

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Ahhh, so this is a long drama?

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Yes I think it's scheduled for 50 episodes for now.

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That is long, I actually didn’t realize that.

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The first Weekender hangout. And just in time as of a few minutes ago the first episode has now posted to Viki.

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I watched the first episode and was impressed. This is how a weekender should start. A lot was packed into the first episode, including most of the major and even minor characters. Many of the family relationships with their conflicts and even some history was revealed. Let us hope that the writer can keep this up. So far it looks good.

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Thanks for always being willing to share your thoughts on the low profile dramas, it’s a great community service 😊

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The family set up with the powerful matriarch, tangled relationships, lifelong obligations, a variety of wanted and unwanted pregnancies, unhappy but successful third generation (semi) family members, lots of yelling, and secrets (but of course) definitely has the makings for a 50-episode weekend Kdrama that will compete with the best of them.!

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I have more hope for this drama now I know that the writer also did Cheer up Mr Kim.

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Thanks for putting this drama hangout out there, These weekenders raise so many issues in the two episodes that a space is definitely needed to share thoughts. Having been burnt by my last weekender, I will be watching this space for feedback as my live watches have been in the low numbers for a while now so I may be persuaded to jump in at a later date.

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There have been a few shows that I have avoided by doing just that. Weekenders should not be an exception to that practice.

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I haven't watched the first episode yet (a very very busy weekend), just want to thank for the hangout!
I have high hopes for this show!

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I'm just waiting for both episodes to come out before I binge-watch. I like Ahn Jae-hyun so I'm hoping the story will be better than the last one.

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I dropped the last weekend show but I am willing and ready to give this a try, especially with all the good comments about it so far and a drama hang-out will be great to have.

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I have just finished the 2 episodes and I really like it, a very promising start!

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I enjoyed episode 1 more than I thought I would, and can’t wait for ep 2. @oldawyer is correct; it’s a soap opera-y type of drama. All the relationship intricacies in this drama remind me of the old American soap operas like As the World Turns and Guiding Light. My mama watched those faithfully so I grew up watching them too.

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I watched Days of Our Lives, Another World and Santa Barbara and Search for Tomorrow (mainly on NBC) for many years when I was in college in the 1980s.

And as of 2012 when My Husband got a Family became wildly popular on KBS, i have been watching the weekend dramas mainly because they do focus on the family (as crazy as some of those families are). Family is just a different breed, you know. They certainly provide alot of drama!

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Family is indeed a different breed. Just curious: does dfw stand for Dallas-Ft. Worth? Or is it because I’m a Texan that my mind automatically goes there?

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50 episodes frighten me. I’ve only watched one of those (Young Lady and Gentleman), and it was an absolute trainwreck of a drama. Writers in general can’t seem to keep a good thing going for 16 episodes, so 50 is simply too much.

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YOUNG LADY AND GENTLEMAN was indeed a dramatic train wreck- although one that got high ratings- but the best weekenders are very watchable. A great example of this is ONCE AGAIN. FATHER IS STRANGE is another.

Remember that it is OK to drop a show- I did that with the weekender REVOLUTIONARY SISTERS which has to stand as one of the worst dramas I have ever started.

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Heard It Through The Grapevine and Yoona’sStreet were good as was My Father Is Strange.

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Yoona's Street is still one of my favs.

Heard it thru the Grapevine is on my To Watch list which i have to pick up soon.

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It’s good~

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In 10 years of watching KBS weekend dramas, i have only dropped 2 - House of Bluebird and Young Lady and a Gentleman.

The rest of them, if they are not so bad (ie, somewhat boring), I slog through to the end.

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I also dropped HOUSE OF BLUEBIRD.

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I'm still waiting to find out what's real 😭

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Week 1: Nice start!
I enjoyed these episodes. I think they were fun and really productive.
We understand most of the family dynamics and the characters' intentions. A nice introduction to the story.

I think I like or have neutral feelings for most of the characters so far. I also like the progress of the leads' relationship. I'm really glad we didn't have to watch them act unreasonable and have multiple misunderstandings. I like that instead we have a "peace". Their lives are already full of chaos, so it's nice to see them built a supportive relationship.

On another note, Tae Kyung's dad is a real mystery for me. I REALLY want to know what's going on inside his head. I would say that most of the men in the show seem weak but the fact the he couldn't say ONE word to defend (or comfort) his son, wife or himself had me shocked.

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As for the L's dad: My hypothesis is that he lives under a huge cloud for having married the ML's mom. He therefore simply has no standing to raise objections no matter what he feels.

It is painfully obvious that the ML is very much at odds with his family. But, as he noted, he really is not financially dependent on them and is more than willing to cut ties (to his mom's distress). He very wisely pursued a professional path that actually gives him the freedom to do this.

We got a lot of information in two episodes but also mysteries to resolve (which is what you want at this point in a long show). For instance, what happened long ago between our ML and his grandmother appointed "fiancée". They were sweethearts back in high school- so Grandma may have actually been thinking that she was re-uniting them after they were split apart- to her this may seem a win-win decision on her part. Is what happened then the reason for our ML's present anti-marriage stance?

Of course, the first mystery will be what happened to the babies? Or did nothing happen and there was a problem with the sonogram machine? That last scene was a total curve ball to me.

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I understand dad's position, but even if he can't voice his opinion about the subject, I would expect him to try and talk to Tae Kyung at least.
The mom knows she can't convince halmoni so she tells TK to ignore any calls or she says she's sorry for putting him in this position. But the dad feels invisible. I feel this big void between him and Tae Kyung too.

Any other character feels more like "family" than him. At the end of the day the sibilings dislike him, and the halmoni is trying to get him married, because he is family.
Even when the halmol announced the fiance the sibilings couldn't believe who it was because it didn't make sense for them (someone from our family with her?), the mom and TK were shocked too, but the dad was clapping and smiling on his own.

I also feel like the secretary/fiance's dad is in a difficult position, but he shows that he cares. Maybe he couldn't say something at the party but when they got home he talked to her.

I just hope we get to see him more involved in the future.

TK said he doesn't like marriage because families get involved or something like that.
Him and his mom aren't treated right, so he can guess his wife wouldn't be treated like a princess either, especially if she's from a "poor" family like the secretary.

I hope the babies are okay. I know Yeon Doo said she wanted an abortion but I don't think she would feel great if they just disappear or there's a problem with them.

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My hypotheticals do not always turn out and this one may not also but, that said, my hypothesis is simply that the sonograph machine may have been wonky and the babies are indeed there. Plot purpose- to string out the time before the mother is again in a position of having to decide. Plus, it has the added advantage of giving her something to be angry about with the ML. I doubt that it could be lack of skill by the ML- he is a fertility specialist and sonograms would be something he would have to be very good at.

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Maybe he’s just faking her out so she can discover she really wants to keep them after all (which is really mean). I could imagine her losing the babies at some point after they are already contract married (because that would remove her reason for getting fake married) but it seems to soon for that to happen straight away.

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I suspect the dad has never quite figured out how to be a stepfather to TG. I wonder how old TG was when his mum remarried into this awful family?

The dynamics are really interesting - TG’s mum doesn’t seem to have much respect within the family despite being married to the eldest son, but she and her husband seem to actually love each other. She was probably trying to provide TG with a stable family, but it had the opposite effect.😢

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I think that you may be right about this. I also think that it would be nice if mom were to sit the ML's designated fiancé down and explain why marrying into this family would only lead to misery.

Although she may already know this.

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@oldawyer After watching the 3rd episode, I’m even more puzzled by the designated fiancée’s desire to marry into this family! Does she want financial security and to be a member of this ‘respectable’ family so much that she’s willing to sacrifice everything else that matters in life? I’m keen to find out more about her motives and thinking - she doesn’t seem ill-meaning but she comes across rather opportunistic and untrustworthy.

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I think that she has several reasons. She is well aware that marrying into this family would bring a fair amount of grief. But it would also benefit her family.

Second, it would keep TG an actual member of the family- he has, after all, been adopted by his stepfather- which explains why he is so resented by other family members. He is legally the son of the oldest son. She knows this and may simply be depending upon time to remedy the situation- grandma cannot live forever and her prospective father-in-law is already the chairman of the conglomerate.

So much for the cold, calculating rational reasons. Now let us talk about the real reason: She still loves TG. There is a reason she wore that necklace to Grandma's birthday party. They were high school sweethearts and he is the one who gave her that necklace. I doubt that that splitting them apart was really the idea of either one of them, and I also suspect that TG's anti-marriage attitude may have been part of the fallout from that event.

The fact that suddenly everything changed and she not only has a green light but is even ordered to marry TG must seem like a miracle to her and she is not going to offend Heaven by not doing everything she can to make it happen.

Of course this writer has already surprised us so I may be way off base.

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I’ve actually been looking forward to this one! Thank you for providing a hang out for it! The actors are new to weekenders, so I thought initially that this was only 16 episodes as well. It totally slipped my mind that this was airing this weekend. I just hope it’s better than Woori the Virgin. I hope it actually discusses single parenting with some thoughtfulness. We shall see.

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The first two episodes were pretty fast-paced and entertaining. Unfortunately, I have an aversion to Ahn Jae-Hyun. So pale! Zero chemistry with female leads. I can only tolerate all the family shenanigans if I'm invested in the romance, so I don't know if I will continue watching this one.

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The romance has not really started yet but both leads are already reacting to each other so that is a good sign. Maybe AJH will surprise you this time.

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I had never watched a weekender and didn’t realise this was one. The production values are pretty dodgy as are a fair bit of the acting but I like the main leads so will see if I stick with it.

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I’ve just been watching You’re All Surrounded and the sudden ten year change in Ahn Jae-hyun is really distracting lol.

I’ve never tried live watching a weekender before - I usually wait till they’re done then binge and fast forward to only the bits I’m interested in, so we’ll see how this goes.

I enjoyed the first two episodes; got really annoyed every time I saw a baby in a carrier because everyone was carrying too low - they need to be higher on your chest so you don’t accidentally smother baby!

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😂 I have more trouble watching an older show where an actor suddenly gets much younger 'overnight'. It pulls me right out of the drama. I watched "Dal-ja's Spring" after "Because This Life Is Our First" and a baby-faced Lee Min-ki kind of freaked me out. Weirdly, I've only seen Ahn Jae-hyun at 5-year intervals in chronological order.

I'm not a weekender fan, so I'm going to use your strategy and wait until this is well under way before deciding which storylines, if any, to watch. The baby-carrying goof reminds me of the kdrama depiction of pregnancy, which often consists solely of a basketball under the dress with no other physical changes except perhaps the occasional hand pressed to the small of the back to show how heavy the basketball is. I'll be keeping an eye on how realistically they handle it in this one.

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Maybe also a little bit of feeling nauseous when it is convenient for the plot 😄 that was not my personal experience 😅

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Your comment about baby carrying actually made me interested in the show!😅 I needed to see it for myself and you were right, of course. They also did a terrible job of the split shots of the baby crying and AJH carrying the baby. It’s so obvious there isn’t an actual baby on him!🤣 I wonder whether they were worried about the suit?!

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I’m super annoyed with everything about that baby. Sorry, not the baby herself, but what they are saying about her. No way that child is 11 months old unless she was a micropremie.

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I missed that the baby was supposed to be 11 months old! The timeline for the parents having a second baby suddenly makes more sense 😄

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I know!!! The VERY FIRST SCENE, I was like, what infertility doctor in his right mind would agree to do another implantation just after a birth of a baby? Because I was thinking that baby was, at most, 6 months old and that lady looked, at most, 4 months pregnant.

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Maybe they just cast whatever baby someone who worked in production had 😅 3 months old? 6 months old? Practically the same as almost a year old!

Now I’m really curious about how old the baby actually is to see if I’m a terrible judge of baby ages 😄

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The 2 episodes were good. At times it doesn't even feel like a weekender. I like the family dynamics and 2/3 of the lead characters. Each family has their strong and weak points. On a shallow point, this drama is visually while not impressive is much more appealing than the last weekender. I'd only watched up to episode 6 or so of Three Siblings but that glossy filter paired with the flashy interior of some of the homes didn't make it easier to follow the over the top story telling. Surely there were other ways to depict the same actors in their younger character than the horrendous airbrush.

And the first freak out is of the bat. TWINS!! Yikes.

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I’m giving this one a try thanks to all the positive feedback so far, and I like it! The two-timing ex-boyfriend is just the worst, though.😤

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The Ex-boyfriend gives us someone to hate.

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So many characters are annoying though.

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True! I think he stood out for me especially because he’s just the kind of person that I dislike the most in real life - the sort that pretends to be lovely whilst living a lie, then stretches the deceit out until the last moment even as it’s all unravelling, shows zero remorse, and then has the gall to blame the person they’ve wronged for their own behaviour. It’s just yuck. 😔

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Agreed. But without the annoying characters we cannot appreciate the nice ones. They are also necessary plot wise because this drama has to sustain itself for 48 more episodes. That would be difficult with just one awful Ex. Also, some of them will change for the better.

My best example of this annoying to good journey comes from the great weekender FATHER IS STRANGE. At the beginning of the drama the character of Kim Yoo-joo who is downright nasty (but really good at her job). She has long been just awful to Jung Somin's character. Unknown to her the man she is in love with is the son of this family and she ends up becoming a sister-in-law to Jung Somin and DIL to the titular Father. Over the course of the drama she changes from a witch to a saint- a warm and also wise person who has become one of the pillars of her family.

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That gradual change in her character was well done. Because there’s 50 episodes the change can happen in a believable manner. The gradual character growth that can occur is one of the best things about a good weekend drama.

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Really surprised to find this available on Viki. It’s been a while since I’ve been able to watch a weekend drama. After watching the first couple of episodes I have enough questions/interest to keep going.

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I just watched ep. 3, and it ticks off all the soapy weekender drama tropes. Not usually my thing, so I'm a little embarrassed to admit that I can't wait for ep. 4!

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Same here. Definitely has the tropes- but put together so well. I had to wait a little longer to see episode 3- Viki takes time to post it where I am, but it was a lot of fun.

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I get Kocowa off and on. Glad to have it now, because subs are fast.

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Nooooo, ep. 4! The previews after ep. 3 made it seem like Tae-Kyung was going to propose to Yeon-Doo right away, but I guess with 50 episodes this will get dragged out. A lot. Oh how I hate the selfish, entitled, unloving halmoni who will never admit she's wrong. And if the dad loved his wife and Tae-Kyung so much, how could he let the grandmother abuse them for so long?

On another note, I recently rewatched JUGGLERS, and my brain thinks Baek Jin-Hee and Cha Joo-Young are in back-to-back shows together ;^)

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"And if the dad loved his wife and Tae-Kyung so much, how could he let the grandmother abuse them for so long?"
I actually think the chairman is the most selfish character here. I don't like him at all.

And just like Jugglers, Cha Joo Young's character doesn't get to smile and has a crappy boss.

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Cha Joo Young was very memorable for me in Chimera (2021) and Again My Life (2022). In both those roles, she didn't smile much, VENGENCE was her primary motivation.

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WEEK 2.
Tae Kyung and Yeon Doo are lovely. I love them. Even if there isn't romance for a while, I'll be okay with it. I'm fine just watching them be supportive and cute. They were ice-skating but the scene felt so warm.<3

I also enjoyed the scenes between Tae Kyung's mom and YD. I'm glad YD had another woman —and mother— to talk about her situation. TK's mom was really sweet and supportive.
Hope they meet again (just casual).

But my favorite scene with TK's mom was when she asked for the divorce. I know it ain't really happening but IT FELT SO GOOD. LOL

I'm just tired of that family. The halmol and sibilings for obvious reasons, and the chairman... I like how TK doesn't call the chairman "father". I bet that man has never treated TK like a son.

After listening how they call "his SON" a bastard and that he doesn't have the RIGHT to be involved in the company business, his reaction was to promised to never get TK involved with the company. Not even a "but he has as much right as the others. He isn't a stranger, he's my seki".
He only called/looked for TK when his wife run away and asked him for a divorce.

It was funny when he told Se Ji's dad that he felt kinda bad about using Se Ji. It was also interesting when he was drunk and he said to TK that he knew about all the mistreatment TK and his mother suffer but that he ignored all that because he just wanted to be by her side. So f romantic.

I definitely prefer the awful halmol and sibilings tbh. At least they don't throw fake smiles and pretend to care.

Btw, Yoon Do's brother.... I understand his concern completely but there's a line you shouldn't cross man.

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Just think how many characters have a lot of room for growth. This particularly includes some of the people we like- particularly TK.

His adoptive sister, who wants a divorce? If we know anything about K-dramas we know that she is about to find out that she is pregnant.

Yoon-doo's brother is another case in point.

You can keep going right down the list. So much story potential here

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That's a great point.
With all these conflicts coming to light right from the beginning we'll be able to see the characters hit the bottom and then rise. All the challenges they're going to face will help them grow.

If they drag, twist and recycle the plot for 20 episodes, and finish the show with unresolved issues... Aigoo.

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Given how much we have already seen is just four episodes I doubt that anything will be left unresolved by the end of episode 50. But I have already been surprised so I think we can depend upon a lot of plot twists on the way.

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Thank you for mentioning YD’s brother! I’m still shocked by his response!! Surely she’s in a pickle whether she keeps the baby or not? It seemed like those online forums were eviscerating her for considering an abortion as well? (Or did I misunderstand?) Because this creates the set-up for a fake marriage - it’s the only ‘acceptable’/‘respectable’ option open to her in this backwards world.😔

And YD’s mum’s response as well - all whilst her son had a daughter at 18. I’m starting to think I don’t have the constitution for a weekender.🤣

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I can understand YD's family.
From their perspective this situation makes no sense, it's m the worst.
YD was about to achieve her goal. They've made clear that YD has gone through a lot to protect her dream. And considering this ridiculous society where students/parents have the right to have an opinion on a teacher's love life (the CCIR flashbacks were crazy), and how pregnant women aren't really welcomed to teach or wtv, being pregnant before marriage is just insane.

And not only that, she also has her brother as an "example". They always talk as if his life ended when he was 18. It's like she lives with a reminder of what she isn't supposed to be.
And then BOOM, this happens...
Something similar happened in my family so I can understand what her mom and dongsaeng are thinking.
Two days ago she was the #1 tutor now she's an unemployed single mom.

I get that part, so I was going to ignore everything the bro said, but when he just gave her the list I really wanted to slap some sense into him. And not even once he asked her how was she feeling.

2. I think that usually the big conflicts arrive in the middle and by then we are attached to the characters and we're invested in the story. But this time we didn't have time for that.

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Ah, thank you so much for explaining! I needed that context to be laid out for me because it just seemed so extreme and cruel, not just the invasion of privacy and sexism, but also that her brother and mum felt they had a say in what she should choose for herself. Honestly, I’m still reeling from the discovery of her boyfriend’s cheating, so I have no idea how she’s even processing the pregnancy + the loss of one twin, on top of losing her job, and then her family being less than caring and supportive. I know we’re setting up for many episodes of story to unfold, but wow. It’s a lot.😅

I think your second point is spot on. I haven’t been won over yet and don’t feel sufficiently invested in the people who live in this story, so laying it on this thick is challenging my willingness to stick around. But I like all the insight beanies share on here, so I’m staying for at least another week.🙃

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I understand their POV but I also would like to see a little of support. She's has gone through a lot and there's literally no one to give her at least a hug.
Maybe that's why I find the scenes with the ML so warm and precious.

I feel the same.
If they keep showing the Tae Kyung's family being horrible 80% of the time, I will also have a hard time sticking with the show. I'm watching mainly for YD's story.

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Ahhh so this is one of the SK government's effort for the declining its already low birth rate. I see 😀

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😂😂

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Was thinking the same thing 😁In addition to babies, the networks are pumping out a lot of marriage-centered plots (recently, there have been a growing number of young South who consider themselves anti-marriage).

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I thought the first week was decent but after the second week I decided to drop. Too hard to watch the grandmother. Unnecessarily mean and unreasonable. Don't like the patriarch of the family.
Did not like/understand ML kneeling in front of the grandmother.
I guess I am tired and bored of nasty rich people from the dramaland :).

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Sacrificing himself so his mom can stay with a horrible family. Not my cup of tea

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One more rant: the father dies not love his wife. He just needs her as a kinder mother to compensate for his awful one.

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@stove, I hear your rants! And we're just at episode 4 out of 50! Right now I want to wait until the fake marriage, but they better not drag it out too long...

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I was very surprised that the grandmother is such a mean matriarch here in this drama. Kang Bu Ja, the actress portraying the grandmother, played the wise and caring matriarch in the the MBC 2011 daily drama 'Iron/Indomitable Daughters-in-law' which i binged in 2022 during a lull in new dramas and i watched it WITHOUT subtitles. That was a good daily drama.

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My first weekender! It feels like a decade-old drama. Is it the production values? The soapy plot? Even the characters/acting?

I don't mind all those tropes, if they'll be done right. But like others have said, the chaebol family is grating. The second leads as well. All that slapping! If they can tone it down, I'll keep watching. There's not much exciting out there currently. I'm kinda liking our leads, even the ML some by episode 4.

BTW Does anyone in drama-land ever actually have an abortion? And it was the right decision for them?

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I think there are but I can't recall the titles. I think east asia countries are quite open minded about abortion. Even my conservative country, abortion is okay to an extent if it is necessary.

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That's what I thought. But it's rarely carried out (and shown in a positive light) in the dramas I've seen. It always seems giving birth is the only choice. I was thinking of the second leads in Strangers Again, where having the child made no sense at all, but abortion was again a step too far.

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I guessed wrong about some things after episode 2. But I was right about some others.

When Principal Jang and the ML's stepfather agreed to call off the wedding decreed by Halmoni that was deeply upsetting to Ms. Jang. No upsetting in the sense of someone whose ambitions had been thwarted but rather deeply angry at her father for interfering with what she wanted in life: Our ML. She truly and desperately desires the ML. She has proposed a 'fake marriage' as a step towards a real one. Our ML ended episode 4 by agreeing to the 'fake marriage' that she has offered. A surprise twist that I did not see coming.

Second, our ML's stepfather is truly attached to the ML's mother. There is nothing fake about that- but that does not make him someone who can stand up to his mother, the person he has obeyed his entire life. His inactions are not sinister, calculating or fake: he is simply weak because his mommy made him so. Does this mean he cannot grow stronger? Let us hope he does. He has 46 more episodes to do it in.

So as episode 4 came to a close it appears that our much hated halmoni had gotten her way. Now we get to see her thwarted.

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But why does Ms. Jang truly and desperately desire the ML? Not out of love, right? She was dating the rotten boyfriend of our FL right before the awful matriarch ordered her to marry TK. She may have loved TK at one point, but to me she doesn’t appear to love him anymore. Or maybe it’s just because (IMO) she always looks like she’s calculating.

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When I said love maybe I should have meant something more like a romantic fixation. Whatever parted them left scars on both she and our ML. I strongly expect that it was not a what but a who: Our awful Halmoni.

Yes, she is or was dating our 2 ML- whose interest in her seems genuine although we do not yet know its nature. But most likely she was dating him because our ML had been placed off limits. In other words, she was in the process of settling for what she could get, rather than the ML.

It is clear that our ML has no remaining feelings for her at all and Ms. Jang knows this.

We do not yet know the true backstory here: We have only been shown that one scene from the past when our ML gave her that necklace that she still treasured.
I am confident that we will lean more.

But first order of business is our 2ML getting to feel what it is like to be dumped.

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Ah, yes, romantic fixation. That's a perfect description of Ms. Jang's feelings for TK.
And like you, I cannot wait to see the 2ML get a taste of his own medicine!

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I forgot to add one observation after watching episode 4. Or maybe it is a question: Does it seem like all of the male characters in this drama, with the possible exception of our flawed ML, are weaklings?

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...and the women are quite strong... a natural effect of a strong matriarch and a week father... 😁

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Not all of the women are strong but certainly some are stronger than the men. Others are portrayed as just as weak as the men- and unthinking at that, like Jang Se-jin's foolish mother. To me there is a much wider range of character amongst the women in this show than the men, many of whom at this point are mere ciphers. At least up until now the women are drawn much more vividly than the men. Some, like our FL's Ex are practically cardboard cutouts- although that will probably change given that he is officially the 2ML.

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I was focused on that one family 🙂

As for the men in this show, I actually think there is quite a variety as well, with different weaknesses and strengths. I personally quite like the Friend Gynaecologist (BIL).
Agree about the Ex, so far he is there as the catalyst to bring our leads together (and for petty fights with the ML). 🙂🙃

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Week 2 - E3+E4
Aaaaaaaah, I'm disappointed that the marriage offer is to the Melo Second Lead!!

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I am not- although I was just as surprised as anyone else. It sets up the tensions and conflicts needed for the full love quadrangle. Do not forget that the one solid thing we know about Kim Joon-ha, the 2 ML, is that he dumped Oh Yeon-doo because his heart is set on Jang Se-jin, the 2 FL, Halmoni's Designated Fiancé for our ML Dr. Gong, who just accepted her proposal at the end of Episode 4. And who is the bio father of our FL's baby? Kim Joon-ha.

Remember, as Shakespeare taught us in A MIDSUMMER'S NIGHT DREAM, a romcom with a love square will ultimately resolve into the marriage of two happy couples. I realize that this is not necessarily a hard and fast rule in K-dramas but let us now consider the dramatic scene that has been set for us.

If the families of these four lead characters could dictate the result then:

Ms. Jang ends up married to Dr. Gong, just as Halmonie- and Ms. Jang- desire.

Mr. Kim returns to Ms. Oh, our FL, because his family is excited about a coming grandchild.

At the end of episode 4 it looks like Ms. Jang's dream is coming true while Mr. Kim does not yet know about the baby but has just had a couple of hints dropped on him.

Obviously, we will need 46 more episodes- plus a lot more plot twists- for things to turn out differently. But this should be encouraging because it suggests that there is plenty of material for a long story without the addition of things like two amnesia bouts to sustain it (like in YOUNG LADY AND GENTLEMAN). There is lots of room for the family dynamics- and side stories as well- without absurd gimmicks.

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Yes, I can understand all that... but MY HEART was disappointed, I just wanted the contract relationship asap, together with more comedy and hijinks 😁
(And NOT this melo turn.)

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I am not a melo watcher per se. Not generally my cup of tea.

The best weekenders tend to combine melo and comedy, they swing back and forth between them. When done right it works very well and makes dramatic sense. When it is not done right- just drop the show.

But rule that I always observe is this: The first four episodes are simply introduction and setup for what follows. In a sense the real story tends to begin with episode 5. I am encouraged by how much was packed into the first four episodes because they are just the prologue. It was simply too soon to get to the contract relationship but what we do now have is a fairly complete map of the three families in this story. Only the character of Mr. Kim, the 2 ML, remains a cipher. I also hope to see more comedy and hijinks but those by their natural belong to the actual story which is only just now commencing. The final piece of the background came as our ML accepts the 2FL's proposal for a "Fake Marriage" while our FL has decided to keep her baby. All the pieces have now been placed on the chess board and only now can the match really begin.

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I just binged all 4 episodes and like its relative fast pace. The second FL is going to be one of those very annoying characters for sure. So, I’m pleased to see in the trailer that the OTP will in fact enter into a contract marriage (as described in the drama’s synopsis and likely in Ep 5 - 6).

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You may be right about when it happens and if you are this will occur at the very end of episode 6.

On the other hand, this writer loves curve balls.......

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You are giving me hope that it will happen soon 🤩

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I just finished episode 5 and cannot wait for Episode 6.

Ms. Jang in her obsession with our ML has already lied too many times to too many people while her other's foolish greed has already created a disaster. It looks like our scumbag Ex is about to receive the important news that will change things for him. Meanwhile our ML has now apparently been apprised of Ms. Jang's real intentions.
Episode 6 is going to be a fun mess. The contract marriage we are waiting for will probably not happen as quickly as some would want, although the way that the writer keeps springing surprises who knows?

It is important not to get impatient- this is not a sixteen episode romcom it is a fifty episode weekender. Sit back and relax and just let the story flow. We will get there.

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I can’t wait either! I need to be rewarded with the some just desserts being served!! I know it’s still early days as you say, but if I’m not given enough crumbs of justice, I find it too hard to be patient.😅

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I think that the first crumbs (but still just crumbs) are indeed about to be served up to our second leads. But, if I am right, what we will see in episode six will answer the drama logic question that is fundamental to every contract relationship or contract marriage. There is always the question of why our OT would do this. In our case it is really two seperate questions

Why would our ML want to have a contract relationship with a woman who is carrying another man's child? I think that the answer may be that only with a pregnant woman can he excuse thwarting Halmoni. Note: This becomes the first crumb of justice served up to Grandma.

Why would our pregnant FL want to contract marry our ML? Because that way she cannot be forced to marry her scummy Ex (plus it gives her a home for herself and her child while she gets back on her feet).

Please note the dramatic irony with this situation: The ML will contract a marriage of convenience in order to avoid a marriage of convenience. Which raises another very big question: Why does he want to avoid marrying the girl he loved in high school? I am trusting that the writer will eventually reveal the painful past: One that left both our ML and Ms. Jang with deep seated scars. While their reactions are different it is obvious that both were very deeply hurt.

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Thank goodness for these small but satisfying crumbs, as they’re helping me hang in there with this drama. I’m strangely hooked! I keep finding myself checking for the next episode!🤣

You’ve broken it down perfectly - the set-up so far has convinced me as a viewer that the contract marriage from both sides is understandable, given their circumstances. In fact, compared to the behaviour of some of the unreasonable people in this drama, it seems like a weirdly sane choice for both of them.😅 And honestly, I will just feel so relieved when people stop telling YD to get an abortion.

My very nascent theory about our ML and SFL’s past is that she dumped him under duress/pressure from her mum because TG was considered lower than SJ on the class/status ladder when they were in high school. They’re each other’s first love, so she never got over him and he never forgave her.

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I think your hypothesis as to what happened to Ms. Jang and our ML may be bang on. In only a few minutes I will be able to watch Episode 6 (that is how hooked I am at this point). Maybe we will find out then.

And I agree with you that at this point, when compared to the behavior of the people around them, a contract marriage may be the only sane thing that our leads can do. What an extraordinary beginning that the writer has created here- an absolutely believable reason for them to marry each other.

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🙋‍♀️ Me, me!
I'm the impatient one! 😄😄
And I'm fully confident that we will get the contract relationship sooner than later. 😁😊

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Week 3 - E5-E6
We are nearly there!! 🎊
The lies are uncovered (so early!) and our Gynaecologist claimed the baby! 💃👶🙂

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He claimed it without knowing that our FL's mom was there to hear the proclamation. Ooops.

This puts the icing on our contract marriage wedding cake.

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I can't wait for Mom barging into the rich household and scolding Matriarch 😄

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Finished Episode 6. It was fun.

Some justice was served up. Particularly to Ms. Jang, our designated Fiancée. But Kim Joon-ha, our 2ML and scummy EX, also got some appropriate physical punishment. Halmoni may have to wait a bit longer.

Someone previously asked if abortions ever happen in a K-drama. I do not recall seeing one happen during the show, but we have seen abortion as part of the back story. For instance, in MISTY the FL had gotten one because a baby would have de-railed her career as a newscaster- without consulting her husband first- leading to their estrangement. Apparently, the ML's sister did the exact same thing, and it too has caused a massive rift and lead to their decision to get a divorce- except that she has just discovered that she is pregnant again after they got drunk on the day of their anniversary. She finds this out at just the moment when she has had the importance of grandchildren in her family massively underscored. So begins the journey of one of our side couples.

We still do not have a contract marriage between our leads but with the way this episode ended that is probably scheduled for next weekend.

So how is this show doing over all? If the writer can keep this up then we may see the best weekender since ONCE AGAIN, which actually had a slower start.

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I may be wrong, but I think that the ML's stepsister actually didn't go for abortion and that there is some huge (tragic) misunderstanding between the couple.

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That was the impression I got as well - I wonder how they could have such an awful misunderstanding and why she hasn’t corrected him.

It was an interesting twist of fate to see the pregnancy swap from one sibling to the other, but I’m sure the divorcing sister knows that even if she has a boy, it will be perceived as being less ‘valuable’ because the child won’t have the family name (or the backing of two rich families). Blech. But maybe I’m wrong? Maybe the oldest grandchild will be the most ‘treasured’? In which case, TG and YD are probably in the most coveted position once their contract marriage begins.😅 Will the fact that the child is not TG’s biologically matter? This is becoming a rather tangled web!

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All the fast paced twists and complications do keep it interesting tho. It's just on the right side of too much for me. But it's 44 episodes to go (I think). I wonder how long before it becomes a mess. Fingers crossed.

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WEEK 3: LMAO
This show is so freaking ridiculous is hilarious.

I've never seen people make such dumb decisions in my life or dramaland or anywhere.

I have no idea why Tae Kyung would decide to make his mom look like a fool. People in that family already had zero respect for her but yeah, let's make her humiliate herself just so I can clear my guilty conscious. 🙄

If you feel that bad, then treat your mom right! The divorce was her choice. She wanted to protect her family. Can't believe this kid turns all her effort into nothing.
Is this really the same guy that was telling Se Jin "your my grandma's secretary not her slave" two weeks ago? Even when SJ is the one that has the most twisted relationship with that halmol in the whole show?

The mom was literally liberating her son and herself from a horrible "family" and he goes back to get everything even more mixed up? Mom doesn't have to feel guilty anymore tbh. Maybe she did wrong for letting him be raised in that house but he made his choice to stay.

Don't you dare to say you're doing this for your mom TK. It makes no damn sense.

Yeon Doo's family is also a mess, but definitely in a more realistic way. Sometimes I want to hate her mom (she couldn't give YD one hug??) but I can't because just like YD is trying to protect her kid, YD's mom wants to do the same.

And I know that we're getting close to the contract marriage thingy but I'm not really happy about it.

If TK says screams "I'm the dad", that means that YD and him cheated on their partners and then they had the audacity to treat YD's ex like trash (and the dude even got slapped when he wasn't the father).
YD's mom is going to think that TK tricked her twice. Oh! And let's not forget that TK is supposed to get married to another woman soon??
I mean, they're going to look so damn bad. WAIT that also would get YD all mixed up with the adoptive family 😱 OMC this is the most unhelpful lie I've heard in kdrama history. Someone save my girl please!

She should've just tell the truth and ask the ex to respectfully f off because she's going to raise her kid alone. TK had no right meddling in YD's business tbh.

I started writing this laughing but now I'm just worried. LOL
The writer should've given YD at least one friend because she's going to suffer for like 99% of the show and there's no one to give her a hug (TK will be busy making things worse probably).

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😄😄
You are right in many things and I definitely liked week 1 more than the rest. But I adjusted my expectations and (with the help of the ff button 😉) there is still enough keeping me in... and I have fun 🙂
If you want something more realistic (and with nice people all around), try Be My Dream Family. It's officially a daily, but feels like a good weekender.

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Be My Dream Family supremacy! Definitely in my top three family dramas. ^^

I can't say that I'm not enjoying the show because I keep saying "aww" or "so cute" everytime the leads are together and I laugh when something completely ridiculous happens.
I think this show is going to be my guilty pleasure of the year. I'll probably complain every week but that's just part of the experience. 😆

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I'm here with you 🙂

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BE MY DREAM FAMILY is the best. Don't let the daily tag fool you- the episodes are shorter, so it is really not that much more than a standard weekender. The show flowed so well that you really don't notice it anyway.

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Thanks for recommending Be my dream family and now it’s been seconded by @enriquequierecagar I am definitely going to start it. I saw clips a while back and it looked good but then I saw it was a daily and walked away reluctantly.

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You won't regret it! ^^

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I’m going to give Be My Dream Family a try. So many positive comments about the show and characters.

Hardly any redeeming qualities amongst the characters so far in this drama. 😐

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I too will give Be My Dream Family a try. I did enjoy It's Beautiful Now which is a 50 episodes drama. Another good drama is Bravo, My life 2022 about a young girl who took on the challenge to bring up her dead brother's child abandoned by baby's bio mother. The actress who is the FML Nam Sang-Ji did a beautiful job in her role. Such great acting and her sad scenes among the most authentic I have seen on screen.

If you have not watch these 2 dramas give it a try. You won't regret it.

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I got quite a way into Bravo my life 2022 but then the dodgy ads got to me so I stopped watching. I watched the last episode when I found a better place to watch it and it was good to see the turn around. The mother in law was a real piece of work in the initial stages so it was funny coming in at the end to see she how much she had changed.

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You're so right. The plot is ridiculous and the dialogue, I can't even. The acting so hammy! The production so low-rent. It reminds me of old school makjang. It ain't an episode if there's no slap.

But it's kinda...fun? And makes me, nostalgic? I also find the FL appealing, and I kinda like the OTP together now.

I'll keep watching with my brain cells turned off until it all gets too much.

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I think we're enjoying the same aspects of the show. YD's story and the cute OTP are definitely the highlights for me.

"It ain't an episode if there's no slap." This episode it was on point tho, when she said "take off your glasses" I started laughing so hard.

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Yes, this is good old fashioned soap opera style fun. Hammy is a good term for it. Campy is the one that came to my mind. But fun- because when camp is put together well it is a lot of fun.

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TK yelled I'm the dad because YD was being shoved and yelled at by YD's scummy ex. It was intended to be a way of getting the Ex to back off- a white lie as it were but only intended to get the Ex to leave YD alone which is what YD wanted. Do not forget that the Ex had actually been cheating on YD with Ms. Jang in reality.

The fact that YD's mom was suddenly there to hear him means that his attempt to help YD just backfired.

Also, TK was not in a relationship with anyone at that point, so he was not cheating on anyone.

But if your point is that TK is not really a likeable character at this point then you are right. There are a lot of things that he needs to learn. Hopefully he will do so which is why YD will not be sufferng 99% of the time (but likely 50%).

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I know why he did it but I still think he had to just mind his own business. I know he does everything with good intentions, I just don't understand why he has to play hero when no one asked him to. His mom/YD are capable of handling their stuff.

It definitely would be cheating. I don't remember how many weeks she has been pregnant, but TK was dating that famous girl (actress, model?) from episode 1 at the time.
And even if the mom didn't hear TK at that moment, the ex could've used that information against YD.
I mean, she's the one who's pregnant, no one would care if her ex cheated too or not, she would be the one in scandals and would never be able to get a job and probably would get killed by her mom.
They can't even say that she got pregnant after breaking up with her ex because TK literally has a fiance (and we don't even know if it could be possible according to how many weeks has passed). It still would be problematic if they act like a couple when TK is supposed to marry someone else.
And her ex is scum, no way he is going to just sit back and believe dumb lies without proof. So what then? More lies? Not worth it, and it's just completely unnecessary because that's HER kid. YD is capable of defending herself and her baby, so I just can't understand what was that. In my mind this scene was going to end with me saying "go girl", not a face palm.

Maybe they could've saved this by erasing last week finale. If TK asked YD to marry him instead of SJ, we would've been able to skip two hours of his questionable decisions and watch an improved version of wtv it's gonna happen in the next two weeks.

Oh, I don't dislike him. I can't. He has been there to support YD every single time. I like them together.
I just hope he stops acting like a Marvel character cause if I start disliking him it would be impossible to watch the show.
I hope that never happens.

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Thinking back to the first episodes I think you are right that in fact our ML was actually dating someone at the time that YD got pregnant.

But while it is true that TK has been there to support YD, I do actually find his character unlikeable precisely because of those questionable decisions that you so rightly point out. There are a lot of characters in this show who seriously need to learn things but even though he is the ML TK needs to learn more than any of the others except for Halmoni (and she will never learn). I actually think that the endings that you would erase (which to me includes not only the ending of last weeks' episodes but also the false declaration made this week) are quite dramatically valuable because they so completely demonstrate what is literally wrong with TK. To me it is not that he tries to act like a Marvel character as that he behaves like a bull in the china shop precisely because he lacks judgement. He has a lot of growing to do.

I actually think that, at this moment, it is entirely appropriate to actually dislike TK even as we can sympathize with his situation. He is in his mid-thirties, and it is time for him to grow up. That may be one of the themes driving the plot of this drama.

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Your comment reminds me that while watching the show this week I started to see the consequences of TK being raised in that family and I thought "he really is acting like a typical rich brat". I think that's exactly why he reminds me to a Marvel character: only sees things from his POV but thinks that he has the right to make decisions for others (and ends up making everything worse) –if you like the avengers, I'm sorry for using them as an example–.

However, TK is a guy that's open to dialogue (most of the time) and we have also seen him acknowledge his mistakes in the past without problem. So even if he makes mistakes I know that he has the disposition to look back and reflect on it. I know that he can learn and grow, because at the end of the day he really cares.
I can forgive someone that makes mistakes out love, especially if they learn to not make the same mistake twice.
One of the major problems I see is that no one is telling him what he's doing wrong. I mean, he has the WORST adviser in kdrama history. His best friend literally told him to marry SJ. Aigoo.

The other characters (the chairman's family) are too much, they haven't show any sign of being -at least- decent. I can understand, forgive and wait for TK but that's it. That's my limit. Maybe I'll like Se Jin in the future. I really dislike her rn, but at least I can understand where she's coming from.
The others are just self centered brats that enjoy to make people around them miserable. They're so shallow it's ridiculous.
LOL My head started to hurt, I guess I really hate them.

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Very interesting analyzes on TK you guys have and wanted to ad that we also can see that he have no one to depend on witch make him cold. Like with the situation about his mom leaving the house everyone was going to him so he could fix it it like his brother saying you fix it and his dad coming to him drunk laming how much he love her. He clearly is the fixer that everyone depend on witch clearly a reason he have wanted being independent from them that have manage in finding his own career path.

Also like mentioned he is firm and unyielding when it comes to his opinions and those not get dragged around easily. He is tough when standing up to those who are strong.
But he also have a soft side being gentle to those who are weak witch we can see with his patient, mother and also with YD.

To me he far more than the typical rich ml having more layers but also fun seeing him grow as a person too.

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I am turned off by drama violence that appears to be commonplace, such as all the hitting and kicking, but when YD’s mom belted that rat 2ML in the elevator, I laughed out loud! That creep deserved it.
I don’t understand why TK would insist his mom return to a family that treats her like a servant. As soon as she agreed to come back the despicable holmeni said, “oh, good, she can serve the food.” WTH?!
YD’s mom kicking her out of the house was heartbreaking.
I didn’t like Mrs. Jang from the start. Glad TK learned the truth about her but, I’m sure Mrs. Jang will be up to no good even after TK and YD get married. It wouldn’t be a soap without trouble.

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I have to add one more comment: where does YD's mom and brother get off ordering YD to have an abortion? There's no, "let's talk this through,", just physically dragging her against her will. I can't stand it. And another thing: who is YD's brother to throw stones when he was in the same situation? He should know better. Would he dare call his precious little girl a mistake? Unplanned, perhaps, but she's the smartest person in the drama. She's a child yet she makes more sense than any of them.

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Brother's child apparently also already makes more money than her dad. And yes, she does have her head on straight.

Hypocrisy is an eternal human dodge. It is actually very hard to live without it, which is why those people who a truly dedicated to living lives of utter integrity come to be so respected. Brother's response would be simple: It is true that his daughter is utterly precious to him BUT he knows better than anyone the life consequences of his decision. But that does not make it right.

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I get that Yeon-doo's mother and brother don't want her to experience the burdens and society's unkind perceptions of being a single parent, but imposing their opinions on her is definitely a no-no, and she's a grown woman for god's sake. Yes she did experience discrimination at her former workplace, but she isn't in a totally hapless situation. She just needs her family's support and help until she can manage on her own. The situation is just like in Goodbye to Goodbye when almost everyone (including her father and so-called friends) pressured Jo Bo-ah's character to have an abortion just because she's a college student and has no resources of her own (and if they can't help, at least they can at least refrain from spreading news of her pregnancy).

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Week 4 - E7-E8
Yes! A very dramatic and yet funny (Baek Jinhee rocks 😄) disruption of the wedding! Gong Taekyung is saved from his misery! 🥳💃

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Him being so comfortable and being himself with her family was so heartwarming to see. He already found his family. ❤️

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Okay, I know everyone will want to talk about the ending of ep. 8, and we should, but I'm still kind of obsessed with Choi Yoon-Je's dual role as brother Dong-Wook and Jay. It's not mentioned in either AsianWiki or MyDramaList, and it was just so weird when he got off the plane with the hair and I'm screaming at my laptop WTF???

And yes, Se Jin is the worst. Worse than grandma, who is also the worst. And Joon-Ha - also the worst. And not too crazy about Yeon-Doo's mom either.

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Having Yoon-je play a duel role explains the scene at the convenience store where The ML's youngest siter is kissing Dong-wook - who looks just like Jay.

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Yes, and there may be future moments with sister and Dong-Wook.

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50 episodes, i think there may be more with Jay~

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