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Open Thread #858

Happy Friday everyone!

Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.

 
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People are creatures of habit. My daily morning routine includes a game of WORDLE. I don’t have a one starting word strategy. I choose a new word every day to make it more interesting. This morning my first word came up with zero correct letters. A total blank. No letter hints. But I solved the puzzle on the second try. I know the odds are less than one percent to solve the puzzle on the first try. Second try? In the past, I have had some second try wins but I had hints. This is the first time I solved the second try without any hints.

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Yesterday was my 2 trys success. This must be your lucky day!

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Congrats on your second try win!!! I start of with the same word everyday (boring, I know).

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Today was so easy and it took me four tries even when I got three letter hints in the first row.
Congratulations!!

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There may be a movie theater pulse in 2024. The South Korean supernatural flick "Exhuma" surpassed 10 million in admissions becoming the first film released in 2024 to reach the milestone. According to the distributor Showbox, the film topped the 10-million mark (10,471,509) in just over a month since day since its release. It gross ticket sales accounts for more than 35 percent of the total Korean yearly box office. Directed by Jang Jae-hyun, "Exhuma" has never ceded the No. 1 spot at the box office since hitting theaters on Feb. 22. This is the first film to sell over 10 million tickets since "12.12: The Day," which hit the milestone on Christmas Eve last year. "Exhuma" is also the 23rd Korean film with over 10 million in admissions in South Korea and the 32nd such film here overall. It is also doing extremely well in other Asian countries. Starring Choi Min-sik and Kim Go-eun, "Exhuma" revolves around two shamans, a feng shui expert and a mortician who join forces to investigate a string of mysterious occurrences affecting a wealthy family based in the United States. They embark on this journey by exhuming the grave of the family's ancestor in a remote Korean village.

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I'm really hoping Netflix eventually picks this one up so we can all watch it!

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Me too! sounds interesting.

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About time for Chungmuro to start recovering its past glory, esp since kdramas are struggling currently.

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Lee Dohyun’s in it too as another shaman.
Are you in SK now as you used ‘here’. Am being nosy so feel free not to answer!

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Here was meant to mean in Korean film history.
Sadly, I am not in SK on vacation.

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Happy Friday, Beanies! Between power outages and splitting headache (weather is extra crazy this spring) I didn't have that much time to prepare long and thoughtful entry, so today we'll keep it uncharacteristically laconic. Yesterday LYN had his first public appearance in a while at China Quality TV Drama Awards (basically a specific channel's home show, despite the grand name) and bagged an award aptly named “Golden Voice”. Looked fine, if visibly tired, but he's getting some rest after that so hopefully things will get better. I miss him streaming((( He sang one of his OSTs for that TV station (BRIGHT EYES IN THE DARK – one of too many 2023 firefighter cdramas) – and wished to get an acting award too next time, love his audacity – and covered BLOSSOMS SHANGHAI's one. Took me an effort to find the performance with a decent audio volume, enjoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfhmTmEbr9U

Also subbed official version of his OST – I'm lukewarm to this track, but anything is great as long as he sings it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8MjcPQDqwU

While we're still on OST topic – since he's taking a break from streaming atm, there's no point to keep his two newest ones collecting dust, we'll surely get live versions later. Both from ongoing fantasy dramas – first BURNING FLAMES (people seem to enjoy it for “so bad it's good” reasons, not that I dared to check out myself... that song title tho, ouch!):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_B6l9rYpec

Second is from THE LEGEND OF SHEN LI, you can hear it in initial episodes already. This song is very interesting – I cannot recall anything similar from his vast discography before. Btw this gig was offered to him by drama's PD while they worked together on TPOB set (when will that air, huh?!), which is super cute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAzWfMOTRGk

Xianxia theme is rather lucrative in his case, tho maybe not as much as wuxia, but let's wrap up with something a bit different – his advertising song for A CHINESE GHOST STORY game. They actually dressed him the part, I cannot! Could've invest a bit more into outfit ofc – looks like a cheap cosplay more than official promo... oh well, one of these days he'll give us a proper fashionable hot demon role, right? A girl can hope))) Song is genuinely fun in a “welcome to hell” morbid way, which I always dig. Plus there's subs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DzSMkh7Ch0

Not-so-musical bonus – aka my all-time favorite genre of LYN the actor: one where he plays charismatic menaces who stab people. Sooo attractive! Judge me all you want, I have no regrets whatsoever Reminds me that one of these days I need to somehow finish HEROES for delicious bloody craziness he displays there:
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ui421d7iN/

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@kiara, @jillian, @zindigo, @wapzy, @isagc, @wonhwa, @seeker, @mochakat9 - is there someone else I need to add?

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Thanks for all the hard work! 😊 I will get to this new links later.

I still have hope for TPOB. No basis whatsoever aside from hope that it will air in the future.

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You're welcome))) It's a pleasurable work for me, just time consuming.

The uncertainty AND constant conflicting reports about TPOB drive me nuts - one rumor gives me hope, then next one right away crushes it and so on. So annoying! It's not in the platform's sorta official lineup for the next 3 months, meaning it will either not air in that period or drops with zero prior notice... Which I would've been more fine with if we had something else from him for the time being, but I guess keeping fully made shows on shelves for no apparent reason is cdramas favorite sport.

He has another OST scheduled for next week. Now I need to go and dig which drama is released that day... Hey, Tencent, how about trolling your ministry of taxes on April's Fools?)))

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Thank you for all your hard work. We enjoy the fruits of your labor but I know how much time and effort you have spent "behind-the-scenes" to research, collate and then prepare your lovely posts. We all look forward to them eagerly. ♥️😍👍👏👌

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@seeker you're welcome)))

It's gotten better with time - I have a clear concept in my mind and know places now, which I did not AT ALL when I first started))) Maybe my old joke about keeping it going for a whole year won't be a joke after all...

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Thank you, chingu! ❤️ . You gave me a reason to check the OT every weekend.

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^^ 💯👏

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I've been watching Queen of Tears on 1.25 speed. I tried to watch on 1.5 speed, but that made it to fast to read the subtitles. Does anyone have any insight into why each episode is sooooo long--at around the nearly 90 minutes (give or take). It isn't an intricate/complex story (at the moment, I finished episode 5). I don't remember other kdramas having episodes this long (maybe some were and I just didn't notice). I find I like shows most when the episodes are around 45 minutes long. So, why? Doesn't it cost more to make a longer drama? There must be a reason. The length of the episodes is really dampening my enjoyment.

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I use the fast-forward instead of the fast speed. There are parts in the story that bore me out, basically the scenes having the evil quartet. Irrespective of the information that's dropped in there, if I do not catch anything in the subtitle while fastforwarding, I'll catch it in the recaps or comment.

I'm not really against the long hours. But please, let it not be fillers.

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It's so hard to decide what is filler and what is not!!! Once I hit the FF instead of the speed button, I know the drama is lost to me. I haven't gotten to the FF yet. Dramas don't have to be breaking new ground for me, I just need to enjoy spending time my time with the drama. I can spend my time with nearly anything when it is under an hour, but once it starts going over, I need to be really engaged.

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Crash landing on you’s last episodes were very long and if I’m not mistaken, the finale was 1h45’ long.
I haven’t watched Goblin but I heard its episodes were far more than 1h each too. I also prefer 1h episodes, especially when I never watch at fast speeds. I don’t normally ff either. To me, the story won’t be the same with ff.

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Yeah, I can't FF. Usually if I get to the point of FF, I just skip to the last episode and see how it all ends. I liked both Goblin and CLOY.

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It seems to me that QoT is, in many ways, calling back to the K-dramas of yore, including those that were 20 episodes long (or longer!!!) and/or for which each episode could be 90 minutes no problem...

So, I mean, if you stuck it out for Goblin, it could just be that you don't like QoT's plot or narrative, @amfalulawatching! No need to stay with it if you're not enjoying it... I bet you have a Beanie-sized (aka HUGE) backlog of dramas you could focus on.

And if not, boy will the Beanies come through for you if you ask for reccos. 🤣

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Ha! i do have a huge backlog. But, there seemed to be so much hype about this one and I wanted to have at least one live watch. I think QOT has long episodes in a very classic setting of rich/mean families. vs. poor/loving families that it hasn't set up anything to grab my attention like Goblin/Cloy which set up different worlds. Maybe, I have been watching Kdramas for so long, I finally got to the point where I need a challenge!!!

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90 minute episodes aren't a thing "of yore". Main network episodes used to end right at 1 hour point, cable shows varied from 25 minutes to 45 minutes per episode. I think this started to happen during the past 7, 8 years when kdramas became much more huge globally.

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Well, we can discuss what "yore" means here on this OT, but I'd rather ask you this, @midnight

Why would the global popularity of K-content have increased the length of each episode, in your opinion and experience? What was in it for the content producers and/or what was in it for the audience?

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@attiton Lol, yeah, I snapped back to the Dae Jang Geum era as "the yore".

Ads, I guess? I think both minutes and audience make money, for both the network and the producer. So the equation probably goes something like: Train to Busan made Gong Yoo globally popular? Make his appearance on tv as long as you can. Hyeri an idol? Make Reply 88 as long as you can. Don't really know... Just feel it must be something like this...

Also, don't repeat this one anywhere, this is pure conjecture, I don't even know how registering ratings work, but I always feel like the longer the episode, the more random viewers just checking out ten minutes here and there and contributing to the rating. 😂😂
I'm silly and pessimistic, don't mind me much.

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Goblin had very long episodes as did all or some of the Reply series. I really like QoT but will say there’s a looooot of lingering on the pretty faces.

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So much lingering, that even at 1.25 speed, they are still lingering.

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I’m out-loading “yeah yeah, we know they’re gorgeous, let’s get on with it!”

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LOL

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Right, I forgot about Reply 1988. That one at least benefitted from having more than one pair of interesting main characters/ one main storyline.

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I am having a hard time with it too especially when the extended run is fillers.

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Queen of Tears is going to be one of those dramas that I don't get the hype.

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Prison Playbook had extremely long episodes but I don't remember how many minutes exactly. It frustrated me so much that ever since episode length has become a deciding factor in choosing dramas for me.

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I had lots of trouble watching Prison Playbook---and I think the extra long episodes was part of my problem too. Here is a bit of text from my personal review (that I keep in my own file)...."Episodes were really long. I hit pause a lot through the middle and ended up watching much at 1.25 and even 1.5 speed... "

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Here is a bit of text from my personal review (that I keep in my own file)...

Love it! This one for the list of...You know you're a Beanie when... 🤣🫘

Quick check of Netflix shows that Prison Playbook's 16 episodes range between 1h17 and 1h46!

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Oh no!!! I only tell other Beanies I keep a list, anyone else will think I'm crazy. Well, l never payed attention is school either, so why would I ever think I could pay attention to a long episodes.......

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I am not bored with that drama at all.
But in some dramas when they start saying like, one third of a sentence and then look sincere for three minutes before we get the next third of that sentence ... and when what we have just seen is being replayed "to show us that the main character is thinking about it" and conflicts and misunderstanding seem more and more surreal ... that when I go ff. I hate that in those cases, on Viki you can only ff by jumping forward, and you might not see that this was where that last third of the sentence came.
(If I can't read the subtitles fast enough, I pause the show, read, and ff again).
But until now, this has not been a problem for me with the present Queen of Tears.

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I wish viki had the different speeds.

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It definitely seems like episodes started getting really long around 2014ish. It seemed to coincide with the rise of cable stations as major players in the drama game (and as producers of more "serious" content), and may have had to do with the fact that they had fewer restrictions on time slots/run times than the big three networks. As other folks have mentioned, some of the worst offenders were TvN shows like Misaeng, Reply 1988 and Goblin. Since these were big hits they may have started a trend . . .

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Just a quick PSA for anyone else who struggled with this.

I could never take screenshots of shows I was watching, which was frustrating! I was feeling insecure about hosting community watch activities and always wished I could use photos to accompany my fanwall posts, but nothing that I tried seemed to work. I read articles telling me to turn of "hardware acceleration" in my internet browser, but I had done that and still just a black screen every time I tried. I couldn't figure out what everyone else was doing that I was missing. So annoying!

Turns out, you pretty much can't do it if you're using Firefox, which has been my go-to for a long time. The minute I tried it in Chrome (after turning off hardware acceleration in the settings) it works like a charm. So now I'll be using Chrome for streaming, and just keeping Firefox for everything else. I wanted to post here in case anyone else was dealing with this!

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I use Opera to take screenshots or screen recordings and it works too.
I don’t use Firefox, but Safari is the same, because “web acceleration” is always ON for Safari, it can’t be turned off.

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But a beanie said she could take screenshots on Firefox too, I don’t remember exactly if it was @sicarius or @elinor who said so. The conversation happened long ago on @attiton ‘s fanwall.

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I'd love to know how to manage it if a way exists! I always prefer Firefox, and it would save me signing into all the streamers on another browser 😅

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after turning off hardware acceleration in the settings

*Runs off to try this!* A huge thanks!!

While you are at it, how do you create a GIF? I have been dying to make those.

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OK, I could not even find hardware acceleration in Chrome. It only shows graphic accepleration, and it does nothing when I turn it off. I am still getting black screen.

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I think that's what Chrome calls it, that should be the right thing. Did you restart your browser after you made the change? That's what made it take effect for me.

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I use ezgif.com to creat gifs instead of Giphy.

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So do I - i.e. I create the thing I want on Clipchamp, and then upload it to ezgif to turn it into a gif.

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I am looking so much forward to see your gifs! Tag me when you've made it work.
And if you have more how-to questions, tag me (and others) too.

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I will do that for sure. This is my next project. I have so many moments I want to capture.

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You are inspired to post this. I also have been so frustrated. I use Safari. Thanks to you it's Chrome for me!!

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Yoo Ah In's movie is finally premiering on Netflix. It's coming out April 26.

Personally, I don't see myself watching it because I don't really like those types of movies (dystopic, end of the world, etc). But I hope it does well and everyone can't help but acknowledge the acting in it.

I know that wouldn't change public perception or anything but it would be nice for him to be seen as actor again rather just what he's been reduced to according to the public (criminal, druggie, scum of the earth, etc)

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I have a hair appt in the morning tomorrow and I'm salty that it will interfere with my Queen of Tears watching. We also have Easter lunch on Sunday and will try to squeeze the latest ep in before that. My husband is also hooked, and this is reminding me of Crash Landing on You days when we'd both sit down and watch it first thing in the morning as soon as Netflix released it.

Speaking of, I don't think I ever told you guys the story of how I found Crash Landing on You. My husband and I had watched a clip of it (you know how Netflix shows you clips when you hover on an item long enough?) because the North Korea thing interested us. But how I ended up watching it, is that my husband and I got into a major fight and I was just looking for something, ANYTHING to watch. I decided to check it out, despite having had bad luck with Kdramas before (I tried Descendants of the Sun in the past and could not get past the first episode) and, of course I loved it. After my husband and I made up he ended up seeing the second episode and fell in love with it, too. It shocked me because he used to leave the room during the Taiwanese and Chinese dramas I had watched before that. Anyway, sometimes I think about, what if we hadn't fought that day? Would I still have discovered Kdramas? I like to think so, but it kind of haunts me!

In non-Kdrama news, I am working really hard on an upcoming community theatre audition and I've also been reading a lot (for those who don't know, I am a voracious romance reader). I am also SO excited that season 3 Bridgerton promo has finally started.

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What a delightful story about your introduction to K-dramas! They sure are magical things...also, we sort of know your husband as well as we know @hopefulromantic 's mother at this point.

Any chance he'll sign up? I request that he name himself @sonoconlei or if that's taken (😂) @mrvienibenmio!

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Unfortunately he just isn't much of a social media guy! He barely even posts on Facebook. But I will continue to pass along his gems to you all

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Well, Dramabeans is only about three years younger than thefacebook.com and LESS THAN two years younger than facebook.com so he could start here as the lead in to that other "old-skool" site ;)

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I want that story of the fight and the K-drama watching made into a short. But not the typical highbrow sort of short, it should be all K-drama so that viewers half fear that you'll actually leave each other, but also that the fight is a bit fun with sound effects like, if someone says something that makes the other one blink, there's the ploink ploink blinking sound ... and then sitting down to watch Crush Landing On You, pouting and breathing annoyed and heavy, avoiding eye contact, and then both laughing, both crying, both terrified clutching each other ("Oh No they'll kill her!") and ending up in a very romantic way all thought of not loving each other far away, "It's you and me, Darling, against predator capitalism and hateful self-proclaimed "communist" dictatorship - our love will outlast them both!" And THE KISS camera's swirling around y'all, displaying and slow repeating into the sunset. The End

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Ooh, I'd watch that.

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That is so cute and so so romantic!! ❤️❤️❤️

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Right? It's like, in the box already. And "Based on Real Events". ❤️❤️❤️
We only need to think about financing and casting, then. And there only needs to be *one* location, a living room.

FInancing: During their fight, one of them to demonstrate his/her aloofness, goes in the massage chair and does not listen to what their partner says, which becomes entangled with envy because they want to be in the massage chair, too. And then they go out to make a cup of coffee "Just the capsule in here, and press the button - so easy!", and having enjoyed it, it's their turn in the massage chair. .. still in the middle of a long bitter and hurt argument.
And of course, the Drama Viewing is accompanied by a lot of snacks "MmmMMMhhHH! Tasty! I can feel I am getting energized" and by Kleenex: in an unforgettable scene ML holds a Kleenex box out to their love, pretending not" to need it himself, but after she has taken a couple of tissues, he is overwhelmed and takes out the "Kleenex Extra Large Facial Tissue for Men" for MALE TEARS. (Yes, it does exist. Google it). And of course, they end up eating Cup Noodle Ramyeon.

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Casting: So many could do it well, but my first thought was the OTP from My Demon. Then I thought of Park Hyung-sik, and it could be that same actress from Slump, but it could also be ... well, how about Park Bo-young who has demonstrated her skills as a pouting lover-fighter already?
And then I thought [GASP] Honey Lee and Jang Hyuk (without botox - he should let all those fine lines in his face pay his bill, yes, thx). Oh I would SO watch that drama.

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If the ML is based on my husband, he should come across as a little grumpy and have a killer jawline (although I think all male leads have that last one)

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@ceciliedk No one does bickering better 😂
If you want a gruff Park Hyung Sik, then it has to be from the one from High Society, or better still, a mixture of High Society and Our Blooming Youth - you get both gruff and the chiselled jaw bone 😂 For FL I would go with Han Yo Jo. She does everything well 😍 But how about Ahn Eun Jin and Namkoong Min? You get gruff, cute bickering and a chiselled jaw bone....any combo actually would work. I would totally watch it.

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Oh! Oh! I could get to cast Dongha! Actually, I want to see this drama with ALL these constellations!
But imagine Dongha, he could be show all those embarrassing sides of the argument, he would be hurt for some good reason, but he would also overstep the line for how much he should say because of that, he could lose conviction in what he was claiming in the middle of a sentence. Paired with ... I'm not sure ... Shin Hye(Hae?)-sun? Kim Ji-won? No, Park Eun-bin, I think.
But I wouldn't want to miss the Jang Hyuk Combi, either. It'll just have to be a series were a new cast interpret the same story with every one or two episodes, for 12 weeks, 2 episodes every week.

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If this character is actually based on my husband, even if it just loosely, we also need Red Bull product placement a la My Holo Love. He's addicted to energy drinks and really loved Ko Nan-do's Red Bull fridge

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"Come across a little grumpy" makes me think Jake johnson. But of course, 1) I am thinking of him as he looked some years ago ... https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1826940/mediaviewer/rm2133085441/
and also, it wouldn't be a K-drama, it would be American sit com. Which is not what we wanted.

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I just want to know who your husband would choose to play him🤣

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@reply1988 He thinks Yoon Hyun-min would best pull off his grumpiness, assuming he could also pull off his sense of humor (which I think he could)

Also, he corrected me that My Holo Love had MONSTER, not Red Bull. My bad

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@CecilieDK Oh, my husband DEFINITELY has Nick Miller vibes, if this were an American sitcom. Although years ago his celebrity look-alike was Joel McHale, lol

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OMG, so your husband is like a collage of American hotness? Lucky you!

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This is so great 😆

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"because he used to leave the room during the Taiwanese and Chinese dramas I had watched before that"

Mine still leaves the room but not before saying with a loud, deep voice "Goryeoooo!" imitating what he overheard during my first kdrama (Joo Jin-mo in Empress Ki).

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I'm a relative newbie around here, but I'm also very interested in the internet archaeology of Dramabeans and--frankly--would like to laud our fearless leaders for leaving so much of thee deep history of this site posted to the open internet. I, of course, do not know what has been deleted, but here's something I do know...

@javabeans seems to have started the Open Thread tradition with "Open Thread #1" on October 26, 2007. And she began with the following words:

I’ve seen open threads on other blogs and always wondered what they were. Then I found out and went, “Ohh, why didn’t I think of that before?” Especially considering how I myself derail comments sometimes with completely off-topic comment hijacking.

It's clear from her wording (and our communal understanding of the history of DB) that this was at a moment when Dramabeans was her personal blog (remember them??) than the forum we experience now. She was giving her followers a place to talk about things beyond the subject of the site--all things K-culture--because 2007-Javabeans was an excellent blogger-leader.

Since that time, much has changed both in the world and on this site. The community has, for example, also been given the Fan Wall. This addition happened in the site transformation from personal-blog-to-more-openly-social/community-oriented-website that took place in 2017, a full ten years later.

But the point of Open Thread and, IMO, the Fan Wall has not changed, and that is to give us a place to talk about our full selves, precisely so that we do not hijack the comment threads on the recaps with off-topic conversations. This is, after all, a community committed to K-dramas, yes? And we've been given so many places to talk about whatever we like beyond that, such as this very, weekly feature and also our own, personal Fan Wall.

Ad hominem attacks on other Beanies are not welcome anywhere on the site, and even spoilers (!_ are welcome here on Open Thread and on the Fan Wall (although clear spoiler warnings are always **welcome**!!!). But, surely the recaps are best protected for discussion of the weekly episodes of our beloved dramas.

And @javabeans from 2007? Jon Stewart's baaaaack here in 2024. Ya thought he was cranky then? We hadn't seen nothing yet.

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Thanks for this review of how we got where we are! I too associated Javabeans’ return w the return of Jon Stewart and feel quite deliriously happy about both!

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Sure thing. Here's something else sort of fun...it's @javabeans 's first post here on the main site and (also apparently) the first post for dramabeans.com as stored on the Wayback Machine.

Here
https://www.dramabeans.com/2007/01/yet-another-side-project/

There
https://web.archive.org/web/20070703194607/http://www.dramabeans.com/2007/01/yet-another-side-project/

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Thanks for saying something about the change of tone that has occurred in a number of the recent comment sections of some weecaps.

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I appreciate the reminder that ad hominem personal attacks are not permitted anywhere on DB--that's the part of the culture we all love.

However, as someone who occasionallybeen known to stray off topic in recaps (e.g.about every 3rd comment) I'm going to have to continue my rebellious ways. Why? Because, man, the DB man can't bust my muse. https://vintage-ads.livejournal.com/7254224.html

Practicing what I preach, I'm going to go off topic to say that the ad I posted above is always cited as corporate co-option of protest music in the U.S., but if you look at the albums being promoted they are all, with the exception of "Switched on Bach" pretty serious "avant-garde" classical music, including Charles Ives and Stockhausen. The other funny thing about the ad copy is that it cited "great soundmakers like "Riley, Stockhausen, Varese or the Moog Synthesizer" as if the synthesizer was a composer.

I have a synthesizer at home, and unfortunately, it doesn't compose kpop hits for me. But I am able to play my favorite protest anthem, New Jeans OMG. So I dig it.

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Some time last year, a beanie commented that they felt silenced by the number of positive comments in a drama comments section because if they posted their critical comments they would stand out too much. I feel things have gone too far the other way and now beanies who are not enjoying a show stay in the comments for the duration and can become the majority voice because it can feel like anyone making a positive comment is an idiot for enjoying a drama that has been labelled as lacking in multiple ways. The one exception to this I have noticed is Something in the rain as those who enjoyed it always counterattack confidently.

I hope we can get the balance right where everyone who wants to comment can do so in a way that feels their preferences are respected. It’s a shame when beanies feel they have to develop their own comment section on their fan wall to share their positive views and it’s disappointing when that space is contaminated with challenging comments too.

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It is very hard to get the balance right when these type of public announcements (not yours) come only when the "groupthink" is criticized and silent or even joining in when the "groupthink" does the criticizing. And I am not talking about me, in particular, I can handle it. I have seen many comments that made fun of beanie fans of CEW right here. I do not know when this "war" has started and who is right or wrong, really do not care about the subject, but the idea is that the "policing" and the "awerness" campaign is always done when the power group is "attacked" and not the when it "attacks". Your comment, as usual, is great.

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The thing about fanwall, sure you are supposed to be able to write anything as it is your fanwall, but people forget that it is still visible to everyone. And when the fanwall becomes a thread about other posters, to me it is akin to a group of people talking loudly in the hallway about that person who is passing by, clearly intending for that person to hear. Those posts, intentional or not, are what keeps me away from db these days.

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I love that analogy it is a perfect fit, it deserves a 🫘Beansprout Award🌱

I agree posting about other beanies is not helpful for addressing the issue that led to the post in the first place. It’s a shame that the fan wall is impacting on your use of DB. I hope that you can find a workaround like not using the beanie tab for a while or scrolling past the fan wall section so you can see the latest comments section.

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Sometimes when I watch making of/behind the scenes videos, it gives me a new appreciation for a work or makes me see things that I didn't notice.

I just watched The Sword of Aramun and I didn't notice the ways Eunseom's looks were differeniated from Saya's (aside from the obvious such as hair and costuming). I never noticed freckles or that Eunseom is supposed to look a bit more aged.

Sidenote: if anyone wants to talk to me about Sword of Aramun, that would be nice haha

Having seen Sword of Aramun, I'm kinda curious about S1 even though I know it's totally different. I feel like I would end up thinking "what ifs" haha.

What if Song Joong Ki played the aged versions of the characters? Could he do the nuances of the brothers' interactions? Could he do the actions scenes as cool as Lee Joon Gi (since LJG is kinda *the* action actor).

On the other hand, how would have LJG played the younger version of the characters.

I think the actress playing Tanya in S2 does a good job at playing the role because she is supposed to be kinda pragmatic and calm and I think I've seen comments here about the actress not doing much emoting or something in other projects but I think that works for the character here.

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BTS footage is great if it helps explain the change of direction of a current drama (as was the case when Something in the Rain when the FL character went off the rails with bad decisions in the second half of the show.)

But I have noticed that there is less BTS releases. Even actors are not sharing their filming sets. I wonder if studios have made a decision to be the sole gatekeeper of PR.

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I've never seen Something in the Rain. How did the BTS explain the changes in the show?

I don't know why there's less footage but I figured it had to do with avoiding spoilers of any sort.

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It showed how SYJ wanted to play her character and explained to the director she wanted to continue to show her as an immature bad decision maker. It also showed the change from first half chemistry (which appeared to get to fast and furious) to more low key in the second half (which many viewers disliked).

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Titmouse in Da Bird House
This is my link for anyone who wants to see what's happening in a nest in a garden in Denmark.I can't link to a live feed, but I put up videos of things happened on the same day, and you can see the (Danish) time in the corner.
There are link on my Fan Wall, and in the comments here. I took them out of my text because texts with links in'em takes forever to appear when posted.
We have two bird boxes with a camera since last spring, but only this year a couple* is actually nestling there. They have been busy these last days, happy to find out our lawn is 50% moss = great nesting material. .
Last year, there was a male who chose this box for overnighting. They don't sleep both grown-ups in the nest, when the kids come. So the male finds somewhere nearby to sleep.
There are videos from last year also, with that guy going to slee. "Musvit Put" means titmouse snuggle.

(*) A couple ... or a parent throuple? I hear the titmouse, if they don't find a partner, are happy to help out babysitting or, more accurately, feeding. And I can't tell the difference except "Titmouse" = Musvit in Danish.

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Here's the link for the youtube playlist (there will be more clips, I'll def. post if and when there are eggs, and when they ... Ohh Myyyy God ... when they hatch someday, hopefully!)
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https://youtu.be/OdsoDa7iQ1w?si=qnE6GzvoRGw9hLM9
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Here's the link for my post about it on my fan wall
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https://www.dramabeans.com/members/CecilieDK/activity/1556964/
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And a gif I made where you can see the bird rush in and out again
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https://www.dramabeans.com/members/CecilieDK/activity/1556982/

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Love this! I should make a point of getting more moss into my yard 👍🏽

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I've written about this before on DB, but as bird enthusiast, who has a flock of bushtits gathering every morning outside my window, I have a great affection for the BTS song "Silver spoon/Baepsae, which refers to the Korean saying that's appeared in a couple of kdramas, "if a crow-tit walks like a stork it will break its legs" to reject that saying's meaning that people should know their place.

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@reply1988 thanks for nudging me. I removed the other post.

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No worries, I forget to go back and check if it finally posted so I can delete it so I recognised the issue straight away.

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Hello Beanies. Hope those who observe the holiday are being treated well by it.

I watched A Shop for Killers and frankly, I wish I could recap it. While my language skills have improved, I am afraid I'd miss some cultural nuances. I really enjoyed it and saw a few things that were subtly placed to foreshadow others and I felt really good!

Considering pausing Queen of Tears so that I can just binge the hurt after the series is done and get it over with.

There's a Japanese series called Eye Love You with a Korean MMC - actor, Chae Jong-hyeop. The language barrier is a factor in the story. I am really enjoying it. Alas, it's ongoing but since it's a lot less painful than Queen of Tears I might watch as the series episodes drop.

Btw, has anyone watched the C-drama Falling Into Your Smile? I need to know if anyone else sees the whole set-in-SouthKorea flashback coded as a K-drama MM romance?

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I was watching Eye Love You but dropped it, even if I enjoyed Char Jong-hyeop immensely.
My gifs about it are here, if you want to see them.
https://www.dramabeans.com/members/CecilieDK/activity/1548428/

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What caused you to drop it? I can see ep 5 will have/has a "Big Misunderstanding" trope which is not my fave but I will push through and watch it.

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I couldn't have the FL being so scared. It seemed absurd.
Also, I was disappointed that she used her ability to read minds so little. She seemed socially very inept.

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I've always thought it would be cool to use the drama hangout as a space where you try recapping shows.

I always have that in mind I write in the hangout but then I end up just writing about the things that stood out to me about an episode vs recapping the episode haha

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Happy weekend Beanies and keep Beaning On!

Happy Easter to celebrating Beanies!

Humans are contradictory creatures. They say stuff like: “Make sure to use your time well to enjoy yourself, because you start work again in May.” Followed by: “I want you to do X for me quickly, because you start work in May!”😂 As a result I have been on an unexpected hiatus since the beginning of March. I never stop lurking, but it is not the same as actively participating in Beantics!🥺

So, what I have I been up to, aside from meetings and preparations for the new job? Well, there was a lot of time devoted to rearranging my big room into sleep, work and relaxation quarters, and spring cleaning all the closets. It turns out that I need to urgently shop for bigger sized clothing in April.😅 Losing some weight should happen soon, because part of the commute happens on foot. I also took up gentle hatha yoga. With emphasis on gentle, because it is adapted to people with health problems who cannot keep up with standard yoga practice.

I hope I can be more present from now on, both in Beanieland and Dramaland. All those spring show teasers (both K-drama and other) look too good to pass up!🤩

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I love the room division idea to make sure important activities have designated ends as well as start times.

Hope the allocation of tasks also come with opportunities to delegate or refuse as appropriate. I never understood people thinking it was ok to allocate tasks for my time off😬

Good luck on the losing weight campaign it’s not easy losing weight after a certain age. We discussed this on a previous Open Thread and agreed intermittent fasting in a way that works for your body and schedule is a game changer for most people.

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Yes, room division made every corner a lot cozier. :)
Originally work started after Easter Break, so everyone is taking a break now while I am expected to get it all done, which annoyed me. After a busy March I also want a break now! :p

Work got postponed to May, so I win the latter half of April back, but I am going to try to get the most out of the whole of April. ;)

Schedule really is a gamechanger. I am not too worried about the weight loss because I know the new work flow will change a lot for the better. :)

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I'm thinking I'd like to become a rooftop tenant. They always have a good view, nice plants and flowers that someone else comes up to water and an interesting landlady with love interest offspring. There's usually a mystery to investigate, some suspicious creeping around in the dead of night, a frisson of danger, and an assortment of eccentric friends to have drunken rooftop parties with. But also plenty of time to be alone, read books, drink coffee and be philosophical while idly listening to the love interest arguing with himself on the stairs about what excuse to use for arriving to see me unannounced. 😄

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The roof top apartment is more romantic than practical. Most were just added shacks on top of apartment buildings by the landowner to get more rent. Central heat or air conditioning was not provided; plumbing was spotty at best. Many tenants had to use bathhouses, saunas or gyms to bathe.

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I'm still capable of slumming it, but a penthouse version would be preferable.

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So Han So Hee & Ryu Jeol Yeol broke up and honestly, I kinda saw it coming when I saw somewhere that she was hurt or mad that he was remaining silent through this whole thing.

Break ups suck in general but it has to be SOOOOO much worse when it's public like this.

But this just once again makes me think of how NO GOOD comes from knowing about celebrities' personal/love/sex lives.

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After Han So-hee's post two days ago where she basically calls Hyeri a liar, someone on allkpop predicted that her next post would be "We've broken up. I hope y'all are happy!" and they did. I don't like Ryu Jun-yeol either, but he was right that it would all blow over if she had just stayed quiet, but her agency didn't step in to stop her and her image suffered as a result.

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The ramifications of this situation has cascaded into their professional lives. They were cast in a movie/TV project called Decision which now the producers have put on hold. There were many articles that she lost many endorsement contracts (or they were not renewed). Her own agency claimed that she is impulsive and out-of-control; that it paid a lot of money to make her a star but not many people like a talent agency playing the victim card.

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These talent agencies seem like gauntlets to navigate from an outsider’s perspective. If they are not outright predatory and corrupt, they appear to be extremely controlling and manipulative at worst. Actors like other humans can and are messy. Some more than others. It is just rough to have one’s personally mundane decisions - impulsive or not, justifiable or not, play out against a highly intrusive, amplified and publicised environment. If only, the world paid as much attention to genocides and famines that are happening right now before our collective shameless eyes.

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That's stupid considering none of this was actually illegal or even "immoral". It was just messy.

It's weird to me how entertwined a celebrities' private life and professional life is over there. Like just because you smoke or have tattoos, you can't sell ice cream. Because you dated someone "too soon" you can't sell makeup.

I'm exaggerating but the point remains.

People like to say how Kdramas are exaggerations or not reflective of reality but often times it seems pretty accurate (aside from the perfect looking folks)

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I have meant to mention this for a while but I really like (Soompi’s) Shalini’s writing. She writes so thoughtfully, clearly and is interested in the contemporary social dimensions of many issues which KDs either deal with well, poorly or do a half-arsed job. I wish she would write for DB too and maybe she does under a different handle but if doesn’t, she would be a welcome sight here for me.

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I wish Viki had Korean subtitles as I learn from them and it helps me to slowly but surely understand a bit more about the many grammatical patterns and words in Korean. Unsurprisingly, it is easier for me to understand actors when they are using 존댓말 (high and medium formal) than when it is 반말 (informal). In WI, I’ve really struggled as despite how much I like JJS’ acting, her nasal voice and rapid fire speech has done my head in. I hope one day to get to the point when I can easily follow informal speech such as the convos among our 3 protagonists.
Btw, it has been interesting and refreshing that Jihan never had to address Ajeong as “noona” as she is presumably Dohan’s age but they never had that level of familiarity to allow him to call her that. But I assume it wouldn’t have stopped some people from using that term, “noona romance” (which I hate for its baggage and sexist implications) to describe the drama.

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Why each time I try to post my comment here it give me a message “spam detected “ 😳 that was going to be my first one ☹️

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Is this happening every day or just today? Most Beanies get random spam detection messages. Sometimes you just need to logout and log back in or open another tab or browser and then it works fine. I am glad it finally posted for you.

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Hi, thank you for your informative reply, highly appreciated ☺️ no no , not everyday, I had a couple of posts long time back and had no issues posting back then! I think if this post went through but the other one failed that is due to it been bit long with lot of thoughts 😂

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The length doesn’t make a difference, check out the essays from other beanies on a number of posts. The site has a number of glitches which most beanies experience at different times.
These are in no particular order; very slow response times, notifications not coming through or taking you to a random point on the page rather than the comment it is linked to, spam or moderation alerts, comments not posting for ages or disappearing completely, and likes not registering.

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Yeah, noticing some long posts/ comments now confirms it being it due to the glitches you mentioned which in fact I experienced some if not all and thought it might be something wrong with my browser! Will try to draft my comments in notes app of my phone then paste it in here and hit send button to avoid the “taking forever” to post one! Thank you and wishing you all a great day 😊

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Another option is to write your comment on the site then copy it and save it to notes before pressing send. This covers you for when you start writing in response to something as these are the times you forget to compose offline and you are guaranteed to write a much longer response than you expected and if you lose it will be least likely to remember what you wrote😬

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😂 When there is a will there is a way … and beanies always find their ways! another good option which I will definitely take into consideration as well 👍

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👋🏾Welcome back to DB comments section, hopefully things will work great the next time you post a comment.

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Hi, thank you so much, glad to be here too and reading you all 💐

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NOTES FROM 9TAILEDVIXEN'S TRAVELS (EASTER 2024 EDITION):

(A) I am surfacing from the first few days of travelling to say: "I am alive!" (but battling jetlag). It took my almost 24 hours from door-to-door no thanks to a 4.5 hour layover in between.

(B) Attended The Rose's concert in London and it was STUPENDOUS! The band brought their A-Game to the show and I can see them continuing towards world domination!

Woosung Oppa's voice is absolutely SUBLIME! And the other band members sing beautifully as well. And their stagecraft and stage presence are world-class!

(C) K-Drama viewing is currently slow-going as I'm moving from one friend's household to another but hopefully I'll get some respite soon. There's just been a ton of Social Butterfly-ing going on right now as I am not just surrounded by friends but also their little ones and furbabies... and this introverted vixen will need quiet time soon.

I am enjoying my travels though. It's just so soul-nourishing to spend quality time with loved I haven't seen for years and to immerse myself in the Arts by going to art galleries, museums, concerts etc (or as BTS ARMY would shout enthusiastically: "TO GO NAMJOONING!").

(D) THIS WEEK IN KOREAN WOMEN'S NEWS:

1. Embracing diverse families could stem South Korea’s fertility crisis

South Korea's persistent fertility crisis could be alleviated by promoting broader acceptance of diverse family structures. This could include lessening the stigma associated with single parenthood, particularly among women, by reducing the emphasis on traditional family structures. South Korea should also work towards building societal inclusion of same-sex couples and encouraging adoption.

https://eastasiaforum.org/2024/03/29/embracing-diverse-families-could-stem-south-koreas-fertility-crisis/

2. Women’s Rights in North Korea: Reputational Defense or Labor Mobilization?

While North Korea is notorious for one of the world’s worst human rights abuses, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK or North Korea) often makes political statements and laws that seemingly emphasize women’s rights [...] However, the reality of North Korean women’s lives hardly reflects the ideals of these declarations and laws. North Korean women suffer from a serious lack of basic healthcare, sanitation, and nutrition. Women in political prisons are especially vulnerable to sexual exploitation by prison guards. Moreover, the North Korean regime often forces infanticide on pregnant women if they are repatriated from China or raped by the guards or government officials.

https://www.e-ir.info/2024/03/22/womens-rights-in-north-korea-reputational-defense-or-labor-mobilization/

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Good to have an update on your travels. So glad the ticket finally showed up and you had a good time at the concert. I didn’t realise it was in London was it well attended? It’s a shame we didn’t know you were coming as we would have squeezed in a beanie meet up while you were in the UK.
I hope you enjoy the rest of your quality time with friends and family.

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@reply1988 I'm here for a few weeks so there might be time yet for a meet-up if any UK Beanies are up for it. I'm just chilling most of the time seeing friends and family and getting my fill of culture *grin*

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