Oh My Baby. I feel her desperation to have a child and biology is not on her side. Where medicine can help, the government is a hinderance!
One thing I keep wondering about is why no one is bringing up adoption. It’s essentially the same thing. Since getting a sperm donor/IVF is illegal as an unmarried woman, it’s not much difficult than adopting as an unmarried woman. Either way, she’s willing to be a single parent and since she’s subfertile, I’m surprised ( not really TBH) she hasn’t thought about adoption as an option. I know it’s most likely due to the culture. From what I’ve seen, SK does place a huge emphasis on blood/biological relations to the point that it can be harmful. My culture is similar. Adoption makes sense to me. You don’t even have to get pregnant. At the end of the day, does it matter how the child came to be? They’re yours!
I’m at the stage in my life (early 20’s) where I’m unsure of what I want. I’d always wanted to have a kid. I never had that ‘typical’ marriage or walking down the aisle dream that apparently a lot of girls had (still yet to meet said girls). It was just always about me working, coming back home to my teenage kid and having a good relationship with him/her. Subconsciously, no husband and I never thought of being pregnant. As soon as I knew what adoption was, it made so much sense. I felt this way till my teens.
But with understanding myself, I’m realizing that I just wanted a kid cause I thought it was cute to be a young mum with her teenaged kid cause my mum and I fought a lot. But now, when I think of having a kid, all I feel is immense responsibility and being shackled. I know it probably comes with my age and life experience but that’s how I currently feel. It’s so tough being responsible for myself that I don’t want to be responsible for anyone else. I think babies are cute but after 2 seconds, I want to someone to take them away. Kids don’t like me. I’ve never been good with them.
I just want the rosy parts of being a parent which is impossible. Then I realized the role I always wanted to take on was not that of a parent, but an aunt. A cool aunt! I get to love them and my brothers do the raising.
Still, I don’t know what the future holds but I think if I go on to have children, it’d be in my 40’s. And while I’m not sure whether or not I’ll have kids, I’m sure I won’t be getting pregnant. Adoption is the perfect option for me. It’s why I never got bothered by the thought of biological clock in terms of fertility. I wonder if I’m the only one who feels this way.

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    I don’t know if I’d ever want to be a parent but if I do I think I will definitely try adoption. I wouldn’t want to willingly bring yet another child into this crappy world and there are so many children out there without homes.

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      This has always been a big reason on why, in the event I do have a kid, I’d adopt. There are way too many children in the system and not a lot of them get adopted or go to good foster homes. I’d rather adopt an already born child than birth one myself. Especially teenagers in the system.

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    With Hari, I’m sad they didn’t explore adoption. But I have a feeling it’s more than about having a kid. I feel like she wants the whole experience of being a mom, pregnancy included. But that’s the only justification I have. The hope I have is that she believes finding a forever partner is equally as miraculous as getting pregnant. Maybe the idea of adoption may come out later?

    As for me, I’ve always thought about adoption. I feel like the only thing that would hold me back is how expensive and emotionally burdensome the process can be for both me and any potential child. In America, newborn adoptions can cost up to 50K domestically and internationally. Foster adoption would cost less but the main goal fostering is to reunite kids back with their biological parents, so if they were unable to reunite with their parents and are now up for adoption, I would need to brace myself for the emotional and psychological damage and stress the kid I adopt may have. I’m not sure if I’m at a place where I can do that alone (since I’m unmarried) but if I were to get married, I would need the consent of my spouse to be able to take on that burden as well. As you can tell, I thought long and hard about this (lol) but it’s still a work in progress for me.

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    You are not the only one. I am in my late twenties and I do not think I will ever have kids, because I still struggle to care for myself properly, let alone someone else. Also, pregnancy scares me. I once told a mother that I thought it was terrifying to carry another human being in your body for nine months, and she looked at me as if I was a monster. I hail from a day care worker’s nest, so I can handle kids, and I am the cool fairy godmother to my niece and nephew, but I am glad the moment I can return the troublemakers to my sister. My aunt is adopted, and that was explained to us pretty early without any embellishments. She is your aunt. Period. Just like that. However, it is a difficult and expensive process.

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      Pregnancy didn’t use to scare me. I just couldn’t imagine myself pregnant. In all the make-up scenarios I thought of as a kid, I just had a kid. I was never pregnant.
      Then, I got to know more about pregnancy and how the women in my family change during pregnancy. But what really scares me is giving birth. I don’t want to. I’ve had the opportunity to witness a vaginal child birth and it was… yeah, I’m not doing it. I was with 3 other students (female) when the woman gave birth. I was the only one disgusted and I voiced out my disgust and no one appreciated it. I always say, childbirth is a miracle – a very primal one.

      I’m somewhat envious of you. I’m shit with kids. I like babies cause they’re very cute but there’s not much I can do with them. I also get bored of them very easily and can’t stand actually taking care of one. I’m not good with kids. I don’t have the patience for them. I don’t know how to interact with them and I don’t want them to feel irrelevant or like they’re disturbances but I can’t help but feel very tired when I interact with them. They sense I’m trash and back away. But hopefully when my brothers have kids, I’d get along with them and they will grow to understand that their aunt is awkward even though she pretends to be cool and will buy you stuff. I really look forward to it more than I expected. Every time I thought of myself in the future (in my 40’s & 50’s), I always imagined work and then my home. My quiet home where I lived alone and didn’t have guest bedrooms and a dining room) because I just never subconsciously envisioned sharing with anyone. My core personality legit wants to be alone. Along the line, I’ve started thinking, ‘oh, I should have another bedroom.’ I’m planning for when my niece/nephew wants to visit or comes to live with me because they’re starting out college. I don’t live in the same country as my family. I have two brothers but I’m just realizing I’ve been planning for one niece/nephew. Guess they’re going to fight to be my favorite because three bedrooms is too many! 😂

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        Yeah, I guess I do not want kids because I do not want to go through the whole pregnancy and childbirth process, so I understand what you mean.

        As for getting along with kids, you might turn out all right. I do not know you and can sadly not vouch for you, but I used to be awkward around babies/kids until 4 years ago as well. When my goddaughter/niece was born, I was so scared to hold her and that I would hurt her or mess up. But nobody was having my insecurities and she was in my arms before I knew it. Everyone told me that it would change with her because she was family and in my case they were right. When her little brother/my godson/nephew was born three years later I practically snatched him from his mother’s arms!😂 I do see my sisters and her kids often, so I admit that I have another advantage there.

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      My point about the drama wasn’t really about Jang Nara’s character picking or fully exploring adoption. I understand and agree with you. There are so many complexities into having a baby irregardless of the process.
      My point was just noticing how not a single character has mentioned the possibility of adoption. It’s almost as if it is not an option or it doesn’t exist. That’s why I inferred it was probably a cultural thing. If you watch the drama (it’s a really good watch!), in Jang Nara’s desperate search for a sperm donor and the warranted and unwarranted counseling she’s received from loved ones and nosy passerbys (not even her gynecologist) mentioned ‘adoption can be option for some people!’ In the show, it almost feels like the concept doesn’t exist. That’s what I was pointing out.

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    I was like you and @mindy as well. Didn’t want to have kids and if than to adopt because there’re so many of them waiting for better life or to be loved. Until I had one when I was 34 and I wouldn’t change it. Now I have a second one and I’m enjoying it to the fullest. With first one I was suffering from severe postnatal depression ( suicidal thoughts, bad mom thoughts and giving up my son for adoption), it did pass but I know now why I was having a hard time then, but that’s another story.

    It’s really hard and expensive to adopt even in any European country, mostly you need to be married and have a great financial situation. There were lots of Korean babies, children adopted in France 20- 30 years ago and if those parents weren’t rich they have had it really rough. At some stage, mostly as a teenager, an adopted person wants to look for her/his real parents and adoptive parents need to provide a deep understanding of why it’s like that. That’s why when a child is born to poor parents he/she can’t swap them out and loves or hates them but can’t change.

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      I’ve heard so many stories of people who didn’t want kids and then got them and wouldn’t ever change it. I’m always happy to hear that. It makes me wonder what I’d do in a scenario like that given that I’m not fully opposed to having children.
      I’ve subconsciously been planning my life around being alone and most of me looks forward to it. But if there’s one thing life has taught me in my short lifetime is that, no one knows the future. 10 years ago, I wanted to have a child. Today? I don’t think so. Who knows what I would have learnt along the way that could change my mind? Life’s a journey so I’ve come to the decision to not 100% rule out things I’m unsure about. But right now, at this point in my life, I don’t see myself actively planning to have kids unless I’m in my late 40’s and it’s adoption because the career path I’ve chosen (the one that speaks to me) is one that, in the event I have a family, I’ll either have to sacrifice or let my family suffer it. Based on my personality, as of now, I’d be miserable either way.

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    It’s forbidden for single people. It’s ridiculous. They imagine everyone there already knows this so she doesn’t even think about it.

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    The point of adoption was discussed elsewhere (perhaps in the fanwall or under the recap). As a mother myself, I can totally relate to the want of becoming a biological mother going through the whole process – a unique natural ‘gift’ for woman. It’s more than about having a child although getting pregnant and have a smooth delivery is never a given.

    Coming from a Western country with adoption locally and overseas readily available, I have three colleagues choosing IVF despite the physical and emotional traumas as well as the prohibitive costs – even surrounded by the best possible family support. One succeeded in having 3 children through IVF while the other two remain childless.

    At the end of the day, it’s about informed and personal choice. No straightforward answer here, not to mention adoption is a taboo in Korea.

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    When this whole adoption discussion appeared in the comments, I tried to look for some information, and what I found (although in non official sites and only forums and comments) is that in SK it is not possible to adopt a child if you are single. So HaRi faces the same problem, and you have to think that adoption is a process that can take years (like 3 or 4).
    HaRi has given herself 6 months time to get pregnant. She needs to do that in that time, because she needs to get surgery as soon as possible. Endometriosis is a very serious illness that affects us woman and is not usually diagnosed on time, mainly because we are told that when we have our periods it’s normal it hurts and just take a pain killer. We should all pay attention to our health.

    And then there’s this other thing that I like how it’s shown: HaRi never worried before it would be too late because she feels she’s still young. And we can feel young and healthy, but the fact is that woman should better be a mother in her 20’s than in her 40’s. Very few women get a pregnancy in their 40’s the natural way, without any specific treatment, specially if it’s their first child. And we never think about it when we get older. That’s exactly what happened to HaRi, she always thought she had time and then the doctor told her about her probabilities. I know the scene was harsh and it may have seen as her doctor was being even rude, but I think it emphasized the shock of realizing her time was about to end.

    And regarding you and how you feel about kids and that you’re not good with them, just think that if you ever become a mother your child would not be a kid but YOUR kid. It’s something different. I have a friend, and she’s never liked children, in fact she was really upset when she found out she was pregnant, and she always say: I still don’t like kids, but I LOVE my beautiful daughter.

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      I am totally with you – I never like kids and still don’t like kid, with my daughter being the only exception in the whole world. It sounds terrible and is a fact.

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        It doesn’t sound terrible to me, but totally coherent.

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    I’m not familiar with SK law, but I imagine that if getting a sperm donor is a shut door, adopting as a single parent is probably also impossible!
    I live in an European country with a more progressive legislation, and here adopting as a single parent albeit legal is still almost impossible. I work in the school system, so I get to see a lot of adopted children, and they are 98% from international adoptions and adopted by a mom and a dad. International adoptions bring their own set of issues, but, for starters, they are costly and usually you need to fit a mold too: straight, married, under 40, with a steady job but free time, able-bodied, etc.
    All this to say that Hari’s outlook on adoption is probably even worst than on conceiving herself, endometriosis* and all.

    *I’m happy that this drama talks about endometriosis. It affects women’s work life and intimate relationships, and it can be truly debilitating. People don’t talk enough about it!

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