I have come to the conclusion that the character I absolutely hate in Reflection of You is Woo Jae. I despise him. How has no one slapped him yet? Oh well I guess he did get run over… Anyways I’m officially caught up for the finale!

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    His character has def taken a turn for the worse in the last couple of episodes, but he seems no better or worse than any of the others. His comments to her husband in the pub were pretty horrible. I’m wondering if he will remember. She told him they had reached the limit with each other, but he’s still caught up in his possessive passion. On top of that, they’ve all used and abused him. I’m afraid that he may end up as collateral damage. The vibes are that someone is going to die.

    It was interesting too seeing Hee-joo talk to her sister-in-law. It was the one moment when she came across as a warm and caring person. You don’t even see her like that with her children, although her background explains some of that.

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      Yeah they’re all rather sick characters (that’s an understatement really) but I have to agree with @eazal that I find Woo Jae to be the worst of all. I know it takes two to tango but he started all of this and the way he spoke of HJ, the woman he supposedly “loves,” is disgusting and condescending. How did he manage to make these two women fall in love with him?

      But this drama is all about pointing fingers and its an endless cycle of the things all four of them have done to each other. I’m doing this because you did this to me…and then it’s just a domino effect. Pity none of them was able to walk away from this before they really went off the rails. If anything I wish Hae Won could have stopped before she was too far gone. I feel that she had the key to stop this chaos. Ahhh I just have so many thoughts on this show!! I hate them but love their characterization, if that makes any sense.

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        He wasn’t straight with her, but I looks like Hae won was never going to take no for an answer. I hope there is some more unravelling to come.

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    Every single character in this drama is trash, but Woo Jae is ever more trash that the rest of them.

    I hated that he told HaeWon he would find out what he had done wrong in the past and would ask for forgiveness and when he remembers he goes back to the selfish trash he was and just ignores HaeWon like he was always done.

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      The least he could have done was apologize but it’s like that notion didn’t even cross his mind. Not even a half hearted apology. I hate that he used her and lead her on. If you’re a sick jerk okay so be it! Have your affair with HJ but I don’t understand why he didn’t break up with HW in the past. I don’t get it! Is it truly him just being selfish? Did he want a backup? Ugh this show.

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        @yongsital I’ve also been wondering why Woo-jae just didn’t break things off definitively with Hae-won in the past. From the flashbacks it certainly looks like he never really even liked her, let alone love her, so no idea why he didn’t end things. I suppose there’s the chance that once he got back from Ireland he was going to break up with Hae-won, except he never made it back. But who knows. Now all of them are in this situation they can’t seem to get out of and we all know things aren’t going to end well.

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          @korfan The thing with the flashbacks is that we got very little insight into his relationship with HW prior to HJ. I wonder if he really was so distant with her. He seemed reluctant about their marriage certificate but HJ was already in the picture then. Who knows. I really hope they tell us why he didn’t break up with her or delayed it so much.

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          I met a couple of WooJae in my life (not me being HaeWon, though). I tell you this: A person gets used to having someone by his/her side that adores them and it is ok as long as they don’t find “something else”. The minute they do, they just don’t care about that person. I find this part of his character specially accurate. That’s how trash people act.

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      I am starting to wonder if Haewon’s perspective is 100% accurate. I don’t understand how the Woo Jae we are witnessing now could have made Haewon fall so deeply for him in the past. Why was her feelings for Woo Jae so deep? Endless to the point that the girl chose to voluntarily be sucked into a black hole of misery. I need some answers. Haewon keeps reminding me of Kazuo Ishiguru’s novel…”A Pale View of the Hill”. Whose perspective has more truth in it. Is it possible that Woo Jae was Haewon’s obsession that spiraled out of control because of Hui Ju’s betrayal just like Hui Ju is Woo Jae’s obsession?

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        Hw’s perspective is just her pov. She feels betrayed and that’s what triggers her whole revenge. Is she right? Didn’t she read the signs of how little he cared about her? It’s not relevant because she never got an answer or explanation from him. I’m not defending her, but I understand why she is like this: she depended on other person to be happy (wrong concept to begin with) and that person just disappeared and she didn’t even know if he was dead or alive. Can you imagine doing anything this cruel to anyone?

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          Actually I do know cases of disappearance personally and I know its devastating to live with not knowing. The person I know, her fiance never showed up on her wedding day and she never got answers. She has thankfully moved on but till this day, nobody knows why or what happened. But my point was about memories and perspective and their reliability. This show isn’t about people who are either dark or either all sunshine. They are grey and so, it is interesting that beyond what she believes to be true we never get anything more fleshed out.

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        That novel seems interesting. Might have to read it one day. I really wish we could get the drama writer’s commentary on the characters; it’d give us a lot of insight. Also, looking forward to the post finale interviews to know how the actors read the characters. Personally, I don’t think HW was obsessed, just all these external conflicts/variables pushed her to the limit and she wasnt able to let them go.

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    I dropped at ep13 cause gdi, I hate everyone but what did he do after ep13? spoil me pls 😂😂

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      Just imagine possessive, obsessed, and jerk Woo Jae ×100. 🙃 He’s practically harassing and stalking HJ 24/7 wanting her to rekindle their affair. Nasty to HW and jabs at HS any chance he gets regarding the accident. Oh he also covered up HJ’s involvement in the abusive BIL’s accident but I’m sure it’s just to have leverage over her. They’re all grasping at straws at this point tbh.

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    Spoilers ahead: Just finished ep 15 and I have to offload this:
    Hee-joo (Hui ju) is a liar. She lies about her staged “rape” without any real reason; she lies to her husband about not knowing Li-sa’s reasons for self-harm, which means she cares more for herself than her daughter.
    Hae-won is implacable in her self-pity and vengeful-ness; she had a chance to let it go, but instead stages a “non-suicide”. She should not be let anywhere near children. She’s venomous.
    Seo Woo-jae is quintessentially reckless.
    Makjang, makjang, makjang

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      I watched it too and it’s overflowing into makjang lol. What grated my nerves the most was HJ’s approach to Lisa regarding her self-harm. Yelling and forcing her into that conversation was exasperating and not the way to approach this. She’s always playing the “I’m such a bad mom” card and guess what you ARE! She’s horrible and still manipulates and lies amongst everything that is happening at the expense of her children. She says HW is lost in playing the victim and self pity card but she is too.
      And oh I didn’t read HW’s non-suicide as staged? Am I too naive? Huh..what’d she gain from that? Because WJ obviously didn’t care and HJ didn’t seem to know about it. I don’t know what she plans on doing moving forward either. Is she really planning on being JY’s guardian? The court scene was uncomfortable seeing how JY was holding back her tears.

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        Maybe it wasn’t staged? I’m turning into Inspector Koo. The court scene was awful. She had no right to butt in and she truly had set him up. I actually thought she’d turned a corner after the barman told her about the older man she was envying, but when I saw her spitting venom at WJ, and also when HJ pleaded with her to stop WJ, I could see that she hadn’t. The word that comes to my mind when I see her in action is that she is implacable. She cannot let go. But HJ is just as bad, in fact she seemed worse in this episode. As you say above re manipulates and lies. She is really sly. It’s clearly all going to hell in ep 16. I wonder who killed? Was it Li-sa?

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          I just didn’t read HW as staging it. I might have to rewatch to see. Haewon has a lot of nice moments as in her conversations with the people who care about her trying to get her to stop. Every time I hope she’ll retreat and although I do think she’s taken a back seat in these last few episodes she still jabs at people. I must admit it was odd for HJ to ask her to stop WJ because HW had the ability to do so. Clearly no one can get through to WJ, much less HW.
          I hope it’s not Lisa. The grown ups have ruined her life enough for her to carry that burden.

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