Beanie level: The Goblin’s underpants

Apropos living “on the other side of the earth”, I noticed the Coffee Prince has Salmonsens Konversationsleksikon lying around.
My parents had that, before the age of the internet, so I grew up with 26 bastards of
this fascinating, leatherbound, gold-embossed source of all kinds of information.
So, Han-kyeul (Gong-yoo) has just taken out three of them and looked up something. From that we can infer that he speaks Danish, or at least can read it. Probably that has been an advantage as a Lego co-worker.
Eun-chan Bids you goodnight.
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@claire2009 @seeker @attiton @Reply1988 @Jillian
@unaspirated @indyfan @midnight and tag whoever should be here.

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    I’m curious if those 26 bastards are still around now? Or did you count and remember how many you had? Because I kept moving, I failed to keep my old books.

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      They were kind of tearfully sorted away. Encyclopedias and Dictionaries are some of the books that for some time was overflowing the antiquarian bookstores, and then just not accepted anymore. When the internet or even digital storage exists, Encyclopedias lose the battle – even when they are leatherbound and gold embossed, and even if I looked spend time leafing through them as a child.
      But Han-kyeul has vinyl (so do I, but) he has old money, he is an old-fashioned gentleman who appreciate the subtle rustling of (Danish) paper with the sweet, sweet information collected through the early decades of the 20th century.

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    Good night

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    Excellent detective skills.

    Aah people “young” enough to be born before internet age remember leather bound dictionaries, thesaurus, encyclopedias… staple childhood reading 📚 😪

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People asked for Gong Yoo gifs, on account of me now being underpants.
So here, as the first thing, is, depending on the eye of the beholder, something more innocent, or otherwise less innocent: The Coffe Prince OTP playing around with a water fountain.

After that, he apologizes for having been so horrible towards her and asks her to relieve his conscience by giving it her all in a good punch. At last, she is persuaded:

He so deserves it, so don’t feel too bad for him.
Gosh, I love this series. Not because of that punch, but because of the many way loves are imperfect in it.

But what you really have hinted at wanting, is of the “less is more” kind of gif. As in less clothes, more fun. They will arrive in the comments, two by two, by and by.

@bbstl @attiton @cera @claire2009 @ryunami @Reply1988 @korfan @Gikata

This is just the scrap I thought it a pity to throw away.

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    Gong Yoo gifs obviously really wants to comply. He wants to! He has missed you! But he can’t right now, because as he says here:
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    He is just too dirty and wet. And filthy.

    Anyways, in Coffe Prince they start out with food delivery … it suddenly occurs to me that it could have strong associations to a whole genre of pizza delivery films, of which I have only ever seen parodies, but here comes deliverer in the door:

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    Tomorrow (for me) you will get the part where the deliverer goes out the door.

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    Whoa, nice touch with the heart! 🤣

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    Thank you Cecilie, that’s such a good punch haha 😅 And Gong Yoo does have a gorgeous body!! I googled Gong Yoo for the first time after that CF photo shoot you posted and got to admit he looks attractive!!

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    Well I did ask for it … so now I can’t complain about it being to hot to handle … 🌡♨️

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    Omoooo.. GY just posted his gym workout on IG..his arms are huge.

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    do you follow Gong Yoo on Instagram? His gym selfies are something. I mean, if you can tell he is in a gym behind that huge arm.

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    OK, that first one. 😂 That’s no sub-text, that just is.

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      That one – with the water fountain – is more the kind of gif I would usually make. Like “Hey guy, this show is telling you something without saying it”. While those other ones are pretty obviously made to make establish some kind of character and be droolworthy rewatchable moments.

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        (I’s funny that he had so much trouble accepting his own bi-ness later when it is clearly hinted that his grandma from the start is angry with him for his relationship to men (hanging out inseparably and (cheek-)kissing with some guy in New York)and when he obviously enjoys the admiration of what he thinks is a delivery boy.
        Also the look she gets before being hired as his scare crow, to scare away dates.

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          I have completely forgotten the drama except a few major plot points. I know. I know. 😅 But I do remember even back then I thought the subtext wasn’t all that sub.

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      And, when it comes to what “just is”, you know, with Chief Kim/Good Manager, I demonstrated a whole array of that kind of scenes that a lot of people hadn’t noticed. Or even minimized the significance of, when they saw them.
      After the final recap of Chief Kim, you can see some of the viewers be disappointed that the FL only had one long last look at the guy, when obviously she was just a clueless woman (and I forgive her, because who hasn’t at one point been a clueless idiot with a crush on a gay man? Me. I have OF COURSE never done that, no, I’m way too smart. Hrm hm). Anyways, some people in the commentary are disappointed they didn’t kiss 🙄 and I don’t remember seeing anyone talk about the obvious romance or at least the relation-involving-definitely-more-than-friendship between Chief Kim and Chaeboy.
      Most of the gifs I made with Gong Yoo were totally meant to display him, though I cut out a lot of Eun-chan or speeded her up. That gif I made for that extra comment with you and @seeker was manipulated a lot by me – so would be totally unfair to judge the show by, e.g., but I think when he fumbled for his phone it was totally intended to give the audience half a second of shock. (gasp!).

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    Coffee Prince, OUT the door:
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    Eun-chan is having a rough day:
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    There will be two more, just for you guys.
    But really, do see that drama. For the love that’s in it.

    @seeker @attiton @Healer‘s @bbstl @ryunami

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Murdering Your Love In A Beautiful Landscape

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    Ha! Nice parallel-drawing. There was also Seo Yul “murdering” Bu-yeon/Naksu in AoS Part 2, in an even more beautiful landscape. Why are they so stabby?

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      Well, thanks. I haven’t got there yet.

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        Ack! I’m so sorry! I thought you’d watched it all. I will now shut up.

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          It’s okay. I actually checked out the finale before watching the first season final because I got exhausted at everyone being alive and dead and allies and not alternately. You can’t trust anyone to die in that show! Or live, for that matter.
          SO I didn’t know Yul would kill her (poor guy! All this killing someone you love must be getting on their nerves) but I did know she would be alive at the end.

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            “You can’t trust anyone to die in that show! ”

            Ah, yes. I felt the same the frustration at the constant character status updating – and that was just in Part 1:
            Alive! No, dead! Just kidding, alive again! Wait, alive but with someone else’s soul! No, looks dead but might still be alive!

            I peeped through my fingers at the beanie reactions to the Part 2 finale before watching it so that I knew whether it had a happy or sad ending, because I couldn’t stand the suspense any more.

            Anyway, I hope you’re having as much fun with it as I did and I will really, truly keep my mouth keyboard on mute now.

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            I do get a little bit indifferent from … well, you described it so well.
            I feel almost like it should have those comedy sounds, like when people blink, and it says this bright, but kinda sploinky sound – dying and living with your own, somebody else’s or nobody’s body should have some funny sound, too.

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So now I’m apparently underpants. That might be stretching it a bit … And I suppose, belonging to these particular Captain Goblin Underpants?

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Behind your Touch I loved this.
Gifs a-coming. There’ll be more, but the first ones are here:


“Heaven, I’m in heaven, and my heart beats so that I can hardly speak, and I seem to find the happiness I seek … when our couple battling’s on an hitting peak”:

Snow White or rather Snow Bite:

@Minka @Jillian @Seon-ha @Cera @Peach_Mochi

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Also, does the shaman run like this?

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    @attiton @minniegupta1 @jillian @marysadanaga and others: Is this the shaman?

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    I don’t know, during Seon-woo’ killing, the killer was shown in the same height, which I’m sure the shaman is definitely taller than him.
    But then, the show tried too hard to make the show as the most intense and thrilling by making everybody looked like the culprit while in fact they weren’t and we kind of knew that.

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    Seems dissimilar to the athleticism of the killer who Jang-yeol chases after Gwang-sik’s murder.

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    What I see is someone with a youthful energy. Not like an athlete, because not with that kind of purposeful direction. Of course, whoever it is in this moment is actually checking out the situation before deciding what to do, but the run is not the run! of an athlete.
    Of course, most actors are pretty fit even when they pretend not to be, so it could be the shaman’s legs breaking role, but …

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    Hey, something that has kind of been pushed aside:
    1) The Shaman wasn’t always like this, or more people would have died … what happened?

    2) Seun-woo was there in the barn, too, and we agree he can do something too … most likely with metal, electrical apparatuses, or maybe cell phones specifically.
    Maybe that connects with the evidence being present on a cell phone – it’s not that easy to put a cell phone in record mode while being murdered, but he did.

    I still think an evil spirit can be behind the murders somehow. “The General” always used to wear sun glasses. That could (plot-wise) just be so that we wouldn’t wonder so much about the shaman having sunglasses, but it could also be more significant. But some of the victims could be involved, too, doing that ghost thing of having “unfinished business” in this world.

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This will not make sense in any way. But it will help you throug the long days between drops, maybe?

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Someone asked for this?



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I just made too many gifs about Dongha and Min Namgoong.

It’s @Seon-ha’s fault for teaching me how to.
But if there are hungry souls out there wanting to see more than these here, give me a hint. I have … more than a dozen.

Like, this is of course a favourite – I made it before, but filmed with phone. This is far better. It’s about getting his charger for him:

ANd surely, the their scenes are super charged after that. It’s so darn cute!

And like, when he goes away, and must comfort Chaebol boy.
If yo ask for it, you’ll get the Farewelevator Look gif, too. 😉

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Destined With You
A unique gif with content you’d never have guessed!

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    😄

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    This scene was hilarious! This episode will possibly be my favorite! I mean ALLLLL the feels! The show played me like a gayageum!

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    And this @ceciliedk version is spot on!🤣

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    Wow. Now you’re splicing and joining scenes. Growing leaps and bounds.

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      Hitherto, I have only made gifs on Giphy, and there, you can only take the seconds next to each other (and now, you rarely can do it with youtube, as I used to).
      But I have made animation films with my kids,
      my pride being an 47 sec. intro to Terry Prattchet’s The Wee Free Men and some retellings of our relation to their kindergarden (= full of love and gratitude).
      I also was the director of my daughter’s biology assignment during the quarantine, which was a reportage about blood, the immunity system, and cancer. Below a still from one of the three roles my daughter played (the other two being the News Anchor Pennie Celín and my daughter’s own self); The fearless front zone reporter JeSicka reporting from inside the body.
      But I really needed the help I got with the details that I got here, as all those annoying “deleted post” signs I left on Seon-ha’s wall show. Also … it always takes more time than I think to realize a small joke my brain made. As @attiton clearly knows, too. 😉

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        AHhh! My link didn’t work! Here it goes, in the simple way: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCN00HUv7f8

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          This is *amazing* I am so impressed. I feel like I’ve aged into a new demographic. I either need to learn for my kid or wait for them to grow up and teach me. 😂 I am too tired/lazy.

          But it’s onward and upwards for you from now on. You have vision and the skills.

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          Yeah, the only way to embed video links inline is through the feature in the initial Fan Wall compose window. @claire2009 and I can explain, but it’d be soooo boring. Just suffice it to say, don’t think you can actually put a video player anywhere else on this site than an original Fan Wall post (and you can’t edit it afterwards).

          @indyfan @elinor and any other Beanies who might want to know, I send you this information ~~telepathically~~

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            I’m only quite active on DB recently and this is to date the only SNS I’m engaged with, as I am just a lurker on other platforms. So when I first started here, I didn’t understand the beauty and significance of GIFs, I thought they were overrated. But not long after did I realise the issue of copyright with videos, and also the limits to the uses of videos on DB. That was when GIFs came into my life and now I can’t live without them 😅☺️

            By the way, there are GIFs with sound, aren’t there?

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            @claire2009 No, gifs as a file format can’t handle sound. What you can do, though, is upload short MP4s (or a number of other moving image file formats) to imgur (or the like) and use them as video embeds here. I did that for a BYT 야 변태 (Hey, pervert!) clip a while back. Worked like a charm–can’t remember my workflow though 🙂

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            @attiton thanks, that makes total sense. I believed GIFs couldn’t have sound until I went through the 3 pages of guidelines that you shared the links of on your fanwall post a couple of weeks ago, which were originally from hades? (I don’t dare to @ here as I’m not sure if my memory serves me right). If I remember correctly, that 3-page document mentioned GIFs with sound. But now I think about it, maybe it meant the same thing as you said here, i.e. short mp4s that function like GIFs once uploaded on a hosting site like imgur? I also remembered whenever my clip is longer than a certain limit (say 6 seconds), imgur keeps it as video, not GIF (but visually looks like a GIF with spatial resolution changing a little bit, e.g. having more grains).

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    OMG! 🤣🤣🤣 You have outdone yourself. This is the BEST scene (not) in the drama.

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    🤣🤣🤣 Absolutely hilarious!!!

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    I love your vision and your dedication to bring it to life.

    Thank you for your hard work.

    Your gifs bring so much more joy and laughter to drama-angst ridden Beanies.

    Hwaiting!!

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– Who in the world would invite a rival to your boyfriend to eat with you on a romantic getaway? Only mean people do that, and we are not supposed to think that way about Hong-jo, are we? Is she becoming so greedy she needs to have breakfast with both of them to watch them fight?

– The evil co-worker is so funny … also that she actually has a quite pretty frame, but she acts convincingly ugly. The way she flattens her hair helps there. She looks like one of the forest witches or harpies from Ronja the Robber’s Daughter.

– I have Jae-kyung suspected of actually imitating Shin-yu’s pitiful helplessness on purpose to sway HJ’s mind. I note that he objects to SY and HJ’s difference in height, and says he and HJ like to eat the same things. Just saying.

I also noticed the way he looked, when they ate.

I know, I know! Just saying there can be more than one truth in drama-land. Just saying.
Anyway, standing a bit more than an arms length from each other, with your hands in front of you body, how is that a compromising situation?

– I noticed how the secretary is all passive-aggressively “Ooh, Mr. No-more-coupons won’t let me burst in without knocking, I am barely allowed to exist at all, apparently! I suppose now you’ll fire me for opening the door?”

– and NOBODY can think Hong-jo is smart running out into the forest at the first change of stumbling upon a deep hole in the ground!That she KNOWS is there, before she goes there!

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    That last gif is precious 😂😂😇

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    1. I wouldn’t say HJ is “mean,” I’d say she’s flipping “clueless.” Doesn’t endear me to her any more than “mean” would, though.

    2. I’ll never see Park Kyung-hye as any other character than the ghost in Goblin. Poor her. It worked to her benefit in MLL, that’s for sure.

    3. JK’s pride in his own cooking was amazing. As I mentioned on my own post–what I want here is for the two of them to become besties. JK does want to be better at things than SY, and is very happy when he is.

    4. Whatever, HJ. No one’s paying attention to you anyway except Shin-yu. We’re all just watching him watching you.

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    The whole episode I thought I was dealing with schoolchildren. Thirty-somethings who act like teenagers when they’re dating. Work colleagues who act like schoolyard bullies. A “scandal” that is so far-fetched that you can only roll your eyes…

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      Yes! All this might make much more sense in a schoolyard. I don’t know how it is going to work when they try to parallel these childish, petulant characters against their Joseon counterparts, who I guess are going to have an epic, tragic love story.

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        So many rom-coms (or at least romances) have this problem, with the characters regressing to adolescence in the middle episodes as a lazy way to fill time. Writers seem convinced that juvenile = funny. Nearly the whole episode (11) was trite filler.

        I’m still watching, of course.

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    I love JK watching SY eat! And SY’s double take with the soup and JK’s knowing/proud smile after!!

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    Lol, yes to “Scandal? What scandal?” I really don’t get it. But I also cannot think of this show objectively. 🤷‍♀️ (Like: how is anyone at their workplace remotely interested in what random adults/coworkers do in their free time? Why is there a digital employee board, where someone really posts such comments and pictures about private matters? Just WHY?! But I digress.)

    I agree that Hongjo is painted very naive, and it’s not really helping but frustrating. I guess she was genuinely surprised to see JK at the seaside, and didn’t want him to feel left out (guilty conscience about the fact she swayed and ended up with Shinyu?).
    And seriously: who goes to that super suspicious grave in the woods, because work ethics?!?! Seemed like it to me: someone filed a complained about it and she will work it out. Poor Hongjo. Considering she was a powerful shaman in the past really did not rub off on her present self at all. 😐

    Thanks for the awesome gifs, and for the throwback to my childhood remininding me of Ronja 👏 (Though I’ve never seen this animated version!)

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      I think we were all surprised to see JK at the seaside. A bit “plot convenient,” no?? 😒 But it gave Ha Joon a chance to be filmed, all alone, facing the beautiful sunrise, glowing light painting his face…*cough* sorry…Where was I?

      Who cares why she went to a hole in the woods so long as Shin-yu can drag her out of it in an exact parallel to something he did in the Joseon period? I mean, really. 😏

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        Lol, I would never argue with “plot convenience” or “necessary setups to get cute shots”. (Why was “shots” just automatically corrected to “shoes” on my phone… I wonder. 😂)

        Naw, like I said, I can take that all, no impartiality. That fake date they were having sone episodes back? All three of them at the seaside at sunrise? Shinyu to the rescue? Yes, please. No need to be reasonable, show.

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          You know, now that you mention it…Because I feel confident that we’re absolutely on the same page here, could I bring up the exception to my patience on this topic, which is the INCREDIBLY RIDICULOUS insertion of the “man judges beauty of woman changing clothes in a store” scene that they simply trope-foisted on us???

          I was just making the necessary ep11 clips for my ep11-12 gif geyser, and when that scene went by, I got sort of mad (and made 0 clips, ze-ro, despite “bear”).

          When watching it the first time, I was all, “What the hell are they doing in this THRIFT STORE??” And then when Show explained, I was all, “What, y’all? Nah. He took her to a thrift store to get clothes because he was absconding with her, alone, to his house??” That’s not what chaebols do, man. They buy their lady loves matching Thom Browne athleisurewear.

          Too much, Show. You’ve pressed your luck too far on this one, even for this obsessive fan-human.

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            Seriously, my jaw dropped when I realized it was a thrift store…in laughter. No way show, not Mr Snooty Chaebol. That’s high fantasy right there.

            Then I thought, it might be podunk beach down, a retail desert. But it’s a fictional show! They can have a Thom Browne PPL store right there! (I know what you did there Seon-ha :).

            And then I realized it was one giant setup for the only good scene in the whole episode. If she gets a bear outfit, ML gets to be a giraffe and 2ML an otter!

            I connect the dots man. It’s intricate plotting. (Perhaps the only time in this episode.)

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            @indyfan What would I do without you, offering what is clearly the unvarnished truth???

            Sigh. Who knew that otters could be so, I don’t know, attractive. But I don’t have Seon-ha’s 2ML syndrome. I don’t. I really, really don’t. At least two of my clips aren’t Ha Joon. At least, um, two of them. So, yeah, I don’t. WHAT.

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            Can’t we leave probability behind for a laugh, for once? Imagine how boring it would have been with a normal boutique scene. Though if it had been cthe clothes section in a mall or just couples jogging suits, it could of course have been a bit fun.

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            I was also confused at first, before it became clear that it was a thrift store… 🤔 I’m with @indyfan on this: it was needed to lay the groundwork for that later joke. 😬

            Pfff, and he didn’t even get a surprise cake from his car at the end! 😉

            I get it though… The “make over” trope is one of my least favorites (even though this wasn’t exactly that).

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            @ceciliedk It could have been a great, funny scene, a send-up on the usual trope. But given the weighty beach scene just prior, it was jarring. She tried way too hard to be cute. He just looked in pain half the time. The abrupt tonal shifts aren’t working for me.

            @attiton 😀 Serve em up. I’m finally willing and ready. Tho gotta say, I didn’t like him all the time either. In fact, I’m not liking many of these characters.

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            Next thing: FL falls in water, JK jumps in and falls asleep, floating, holding her hand. According to a million gifs and videos, that’s what otters do.

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            I think that was a self-aware inversion of the trope. She is being ridiculous on purpose and he is cringing. Please continue being the chief DWY apologist @attiton!

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            Ha, @SemmaVetti, I will keep doing my job, for sure.

            FWIW, I also totally agree that the thrift-store trope-foist was “self-aware” garbage. That doesn’t make it any less garbage for me 🙂

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            And why does she need a change of clothes to stay overnight but he doesn’t?

            Do I understand that the seaside story was supposed to be Lunar New Year? Where was the partying, where were the fireworks? Show, please do more interesting things so I don’t get distracted by these thoughts!

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            As we have already established: Shin-yu is a dog.
            But maybe also a giraffe.
            The common denominator is of course the soulful eyes.

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      I think that powerful shaman is in there, she just doesn’t know.
      Also, I think she has been naive, but I don’t think she has been painted as *dumb* hitherto. That’s why I kind of got how people could fall for her – a kind, helpful, funny, sometime witty, but rarely mean. And I felt, as a woman, it’s nice to not have one of those completely clueless persons to represent “woman” in a show.
      Thank *you*!
      … and it’s a very watch-worthy Ghibli series that follows the book almost word for word. It’s brilliant.

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        “Naive != dumb” – I’m with you on that!

        Oh, I hear “Ghibli” and I’m sold. I didn’t know they did a remake, guess I only know all the “old movies” (those done by Hayao Miyazaki), which are magical!

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          Well, I didn’t call her “dumb,” you did, Cecilie! I said “clueless.” She doesn’t have a clue what she’s doing. She isn’t aware of her inner shaman and is just acting as comes to her head.

          clueless != dumb

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            OKay. I just think she act as if she has no brains here. And usually, I only thinks she mostly chooses the hopeful way, and only acts clueless if she actually is left without clues.
            Knowing what she knows, I think she did two things in this episode, that were dumb, or in the breakfast case, maybe just ruthless.

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            I could just barely buy her inviting JK to join her and SY for breakfast as an another example of being a pathological people-pleaser – same as when she allows her obnoxious sunbaes to drag her around and submits to their interrogations instead of refusing to tell them what’s none of their business. That’s at least in character.

            I think we’re supposed to rationalize her going into the woods alone to find a deep pit as her devotion to her job and unwillingness to inconvenience/get help from anyone else, consistent with her going to the festival site alone at night. But I’m still gonna call it dumb, and being dumb is NOT in character.

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        Absolutely. She is just one of those people who do not want to stoop to fight, but no fool is she. Her assessment of YNY is spot on. She puts JSY in his place constantly. That “cell phone has a leg, it walks back of itself” comment was hilarious:-D

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      In some real workplaces, people can have strong opinions on dating the superior, too. The idea that you can be entitles to a fair share of the best-looking men at your workplace is of course ridiculous, but considering the fan culture of not permitting stars to date because you need to imagine you would potentially be their first and only love … then getting angry for someone occupying the workplace hottie seems to be some kind of normal.

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      The Ronja series is fantastic. If you don’t watch stuff like that because you’re a grown-up, then quick, get yourself a nephew or niece and watch this. It’s great.

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    Honestly, I have no issue with Hon-Jo going in the forest. It’s for her work, it’s daylight. Forest is not really dangerous itself and she’s on a path. She always showed how professional she was before she did leave her job without notice before. She never was really attacked by her stalker, his target with the curse was Shin-Yu who didn’t really tell her he was investigating the creepy gardener. She couldn’t ask her coworkers to go with her (at this point I would be more scared by them and their weird obsession with their colleagues).

    It’s not like she decided to go for a walk for fun in the forest in the middle of the night.

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      I may have mixed what I know and what she knows up, but does she really not know that gardener guy is at least suspected of being her stalker – and that she def. has a stalker?
      And then … “A huge hole in the ground”. It just seems like something she should not investigate alone at this time.

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        Yea, and not like SY tells her ALL the time to be careful??!! Basically, the woman has zero sense of self-preservation.
        But then again, it is totally in character – she fishes fish heads out of ponds and takes soda-in-the-face. Walk in the forest is all in a day’s work for civil-hero LHJ. And colleagues just bawled her out for letting them make fools of themselves. And would anyway not go into the haunted shrine with her. Sigh!

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          Hmm. This is serious food for thought, Semma. I’d not put all those behaviors together “in a pile” yet.

          You’re right. That’s a part of her personality–rushing into things. Actually, that’s JUST what JK accused Na-yeon of in their scene together yesterday (I can’t watch today’s for another 7 hours…so do try not to spoil me here :)). AND, now that I think of it, this is what SY said to her after the infamous “JK rejection” scene: You get so excited when anyone pays attention to you, you just act…

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            Neither can I watch 12 just yet, sigh! (Haunted shrine is ep1, when her colleague said there is only one raincoat so she would not accompany HJ to the shrine, was making the point that she can’t really expect help from them to go to the forest)
            Yea, lady is pretty impulsive.
            And JK dismissed NY like a BOSS!

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          But, … I’d say the fish thing and the soda thing are more just “not being fussy”. To me, there’s a fine line between not shirking back from doing the uncomfortable part of work, and then to, when you know someone is after you, then to go to investigate an obviously man-made big hole in the ground way out in the woods, alone. Where you know someone has earlier been, with your stolen pajamas and that stabbed straw doll.
          And I also think rushing into confessions is endearing, kind of, and in a different league from risking losing your life to some creepy killer.

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Talking about favourite fictive Chaebol boys, this one here is dear to our hearts.
Bong-soon asked if she should stay, but was called home, and now …
in a very much abbreviated form, I give to you: Sleepless in Seoul!
nr 1
,nr 2

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Do I have any excuse for wasting time making a gif like this?

Well, I just had to.
“Sometimes a gal gotta do what a gal gotta do!”

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    No excuse necessary!

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    Once you have the skills, Cecilie…there’s no going back. All you see are the gifs. ☠️

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    Ah Fated To Love You! My first kdrama. So ridiculous so good. So gif’able 😁

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      And later so sad, but still so good!

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        To me, Jang Hyuk is the only good thing in that drama. THe whole premise is nauseating: They start out with a drug r*pe … ha ha … and then continue with very strong anti-choice propaganda.
        But Jang hyuk … whether dancing into catastrophe on rubber balls, being in love, sad, horny, regretful, … he is always worth looking at.

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          Really?? I don’t remember nothing of that.
          Maybe I should never rewatch the show lol.

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          I don’t remember it like that either 🤣

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          That’s how I remember it, too.

          In addition to the endless noble idiocy – seriously, like 8 episodes of it – the show made a huge mistake in repeating the drugging caper. That was f’ing INFURIATING.

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            Even from the beginning, totally making light of two people being drugged and tricked into having sex … Like … okay … ha ha?
            And then, that whole show build on that, and I guess the morale was like “even after being drugged and getting pregnant, you should have that child and marry the other parent” (which, each to their own, but as the morale in a show I think it is … dishonest.) And also, because of the way she was drugged, she was like, mentally a virgin … must have been the idea of the show. So she was a REALLY good girl, never enjoyed sex when she wasn’t forced into a different state of mind by others who made it happen. Sick. They had that long period where they were dating (I guess they had been married, and then divorced, and then engaged again? And she like, cleverly “cheated” him of sex by getting ready for it and then sleeping, or going to visit parents or whatever. This trope of a woman cleverly setting the love of her life up to think they will now be having sex, but they aren’t … it’s nauseating. Like, she is preserving the Madonna/Wh*re complex.

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            That whole show should be cut like I did with this gif: Anything that isn’t Jang Hyuk should just be surgically removed, including the plot.

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    They were so good in this!

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    Ah, the kiss in Episode 18…

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I wonder why he imagines stabbing as such a quick rythmical process with one target.
I wonder why he ‘stabs’ at all, considering he just needed to find the ‘target’ and demonstrate he was in a position to poetentially stab the target.
I wonder if this exersize proves that you can find people, if you have some kind of strong emotion towards them?
I wonder how he is so absorbed in this exercise that he completely forgets to have a small lecture for us?

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Seun-woo had (or has, please!) a strang etendencey to have no facial expression. And when he smiled, that too was sometimes as if he had some unpleasant private joke. He smiled at cats, and at Yi-bun. And he sometimes looked like he was happy for the first time in a long time, when he did. Maybe? I am not certain how much my perception was manipulating bu the everchanging “facts”.
WIth Seun-woo, I was reminded time and time again of this kind of mask:

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Behind Your Touch I think, like I have said on @Mindy s wall, that the blackouts are about being possessed, and that it is the shaman’s work.
I will just point out that in the first episode, Ok-hee’s brother said this about her.

And he said this about his own reason for becoming a cop:

I’m not sure it doesn’t really make him more suspicious and crazy than her.

And Jang-yeol said this about her eyes … and I think someone said that about his eyes too?

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    I remember this vividly.
    Ye-bun had said in ep 11, before the empathy test / shoulder pat that as a left brain thinker Jang-yeol is likely to have psychopathic tendencies.
    Earlier, she had also said that he could be the killer.

    I’m sure hoping it is not Jang-yeol … sigh, we can hope, right.

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      He totally has – which doesn’t have to mean that he is a terrible person or a murderer. But like, the guy who found out psychopathic tendencies could be traced in the brain pattern, he discovered that he himself had that … so much. And then he had asked around, and heard from the people nearest to him that it wasn’t necessarily always easy to be e.g. his family.
      A little too much My Way Or No Way and temper tantrums. But still, they liked him, just, he was a lot more work to be with than he had thought about himself. And Jang-yeol is definitely ruthless and taking everybody else for granted.

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        Do you have a particular drama in mind – Through the Darkness, Brain Works or Dr. Brain?

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        Oh, he psychopath-genetics-tendency scientist is this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIxTFKpBSSw
        So that could easily be stuff for a really good show, but really, a documentary would be maybe even more exciting.
        While looking for the video (I didn’t find the one I really wanted, which was the story first about how he found a pattern, a genetic derived pattern in brain scans showing certain traits that psychopathic killers had in common. And after kind of being famous for being the guy who found this and writing books and having lectures on it, he was looking at a bunch of brain scans for some other scientific purpose and spotted one that had this psychopathic pattern – very much. And then he found out it was his own scan that had landed in that pile of scannings by accident.
        Also, in his family on his father’s side, there is a history of horrendous murders. But not everybody with the genetics turn out to be murderers – it is ‘helped’ along by a violent environment as you grow up. But a person with that kind of brain will have certain issues. But it helps largely to have received love in your upbringing, and to not want to be a terrible person.

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Destined with Love: Shaggy and Messy, Nice and Pure … How do those words relate in the original Korean? @attiton @elinor or others who know Korean?
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    You didn’t ask me but both top and bottom are translated pretty literally. He says basically the same thing in Korean.

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      Thank you, Mindy! It’s hard for me to remember who can speak Korean, but I did include you as “others who know Korean”. So you heard my call!
      As you will see in the purity discussion link below, what is interesting is that there is a Korean term that is translated “pure” but more means something like “proper”, “neat”, “tidy”. Shin-yu repeatedly calls himself a mess, and for a certain spell a “shaggy” dog is needed.
      So the big question is: Is the Korean “nice” and “pure” the same term, maybe?
      Is the Korean term “messy” and “shaggy” maybe the same?

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        I simply don’t know if the word “shaggy” was used in the show. The spell said “sapsali,” which is the name of a breed that is shaggy (I know this only because of Alchemy of Souls). Netflix translated sapsali as “shaggy dog,” which is reasonable but maybe misleading in this context. I don’t think the association of Shin-yu with a shaggy-coated dog is a coincidence, though. And he compares himself to a puppy more than once.

        So he uses the same or similar phrases to say he’s a mess and he’s trash? I’m also curious about the “nice/pure” question.

        I do not speak or read Korean – I do use multiple sources and search methods in addition to google translate before I dare to opine, but everything I say about Korean words should be taken with a grain of salt the size of an eggplant and be subject to correction by anyone who knows more than I do.

        Thanks, @mindy! Gah, I really, really need to make more than half-assed efforts to at least read some Korean.

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          OK, @cecilieDK. Like @elinor, my opinion should be taken lightly. I am in no way fluent in Korean, but like you, Cecilie, have a pretty solid background in languages and linguistics.

          The words used to describe this dog (털복숭이 개를) are very different from the ones Shin-Yu uses to describe his “mess” (지금은 제가 지저분하다고요). Now, that said, it may be that native speakers associate these concepts (via these words) for reasons beyond their etymology, but the word forms are not similar at all.

          Moreover, the words that HJ and SY use in the “Secretary Kim” scene for “not pure” are different from the words SY uses when he says he’s a “mess.” From my POV, and @mindy is (please!) more than welcome to double-check me…we have two separate concepts at work.

          It’s not that SY is a mess and therefore not “proper” or “respectable” (I’m liking these sorts of translation best right now for 정갈하다), it’s that his messiness (mental confusion) is keeping him from behaving properly/respectably.

          @elinor No, he literally calls himself trash (쓰레기) right before saying he’s a mess (as above). I don’t think “mess” here means “dirty.” I think it means “confused” or, I even elicited “feeling crummy” from the translation engines.

          And with that, I’m channeling my inner @hacja, and proactively stating: I’ve hit my limit of over-thinking this part of DWY, folks!! 😉

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            Thank you so much! I am so happy that some people here are definitely less lost in Korean than I am.
            I had hoped they would be exactly the same words, but that’s just me getting fan fic’y. But they have put so much emphasis on that fortune spell and on Shin-yu being a dog (his best side, if you ask me), so I am sure something will happen in that area.
            Like you say, Seon-ha, it’ll make sense if the words are still associated, even if they don’t have the same root.
            When that is said, I googled this “sapsali” Elinor talked about, and Wiki had a really nice discussion of that word, actually, and says that kind of dog is (or was) thought to keep away evil spirits. (Like that undead soul-shifter-sniffer in Alchemy of Souls) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapsali

            I hate google translate, but I have to say with GT:
            정갈하다털복숭이 개를지금은 제가 지저분하다고요

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    When was it last that a K-drama ML was so open about his negative sense of self-worth.

    Just hope that Shin-yu resolves his self-doubts and doesn’t make Hong-jo wait for 10 years to “raise him”.

    I really admire your though process. Your posts are so thought-provoking.

    **not me checking every 5 mins when the next episode will drop**

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      Thank you!
      I have been thinking about that ten-year period since ep. 2, when she mentioned that spell and it was so obvious that we would hear more about that at some time. At that time I was expecting it to be a real dog, and a ten year jump in time towards the end, and I still thought that was a long time.
      And now I also think that if they have a relationship where he is a mess for ten years, before they get “fortune” (whether that means luck or money), then we won’t even know if their relationship will work after that, I mean, a drastic change after so much time? And so I thought (as I’ve written further down this wall) that maybe it is dog years. If so, ten years is between 6 and 18 months, so not that big a problem.

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      BTW, Seon-ha said episodes usually drop when it is 5pm in Denmark, and I found out that that is when it is midnight in Seoul and the next day starts. (So arguably it drops in DK before it drops in Seoul. But simultaneously).
      So most likely, you can just check what time it is where you live when it is midnight in Seoul: https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/ and you can just refresh around that time.

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    In the English subtitles, he says “Disaster Nullification Spell”
    I found out “disaster” answers to these signs: 재앙


    According to GT, 재앙 is catastrophe and 재난 is disaster.
    And 재 is “ash”.

    And here, first and foremost to remind everybody that Shin-yu is a dog (a cat-astrophic dog, as Jae-kyung might say), but also that here somewhere is a sign for dog.

    I am too tired and cannot elaborate intelligently right now … but now that I have taken those screenshots, maybe someone else can?

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Who\’s a Good Dog?

I wish I could convey this in a better quality. I have the clip as MP4, but this is a gif, of course.
@Seon-ha

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Destined with You: Hong-jo has more than one time ridiculed the Spell for Fortune, so much that I think we will just have to see it used at one point. To perform the spell, you need to Raise a Shaggy Dog for 10 years. This could make you think of Jae-kyung and his favourite dog kennel. But I get to think of this one dog, in this sweet, sweet gif from yet another Gif Geysir of Seon-ha’s.

The cutest, Shaggiest Dog is obviously Shin-yu. I wonder how this spell will happen, and I wonder if it will really last ten years, or maybe it is dog years? I want to see him raised for ten human or dog years and fulfill the fortune spell.
Someone pointed out that A Shaggy Dog story is a concept in English, like a long, winding supposedly joke with no punchline. Like if Jae-kyung told a long ”joke”. Is there a similar wordplay in Korean? And on the same note, since Shin-yu is our cutest dog, do they include the verb-version of shagginess, or maybe that makes no sense in Korean?
@Cera @Seon-ha @Elinor Lies @Lapislazulii @HopefulRomantic @hacja etc

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Not very impressed with Shin-yu’s response when she says he is sending mixed signals.
Never in the history of mankind has someone kissed a woman (at a workplace, in an inferior position, at that) without thereby expressing their deep, monogamous and lasting love. [eye roll] Or what?
With ”Mixed signals” she couldn’t possibly have meant anything but wanting to smooch etc. In the office. She couldn’t possibly have meant that he should make a clear break with his girlfriend, could she?
Well, next episode will probably concentrate on madness rather than workplace ethics and monogamy. Maybe he gets so messy that the ten years of taking care of a shaggy dog, i.e. him, starts there.
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