Beanie level: Noble idiot

divorce party. this drama is amazing #MatrimonialChaos

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    Gush, I’ve been meaning to watch this since it aired. It has two of my favs TOGETHER Bae Doona & Lee El!!!!! And Seon Seok_ku is quite terrific as well & just the whole cast!

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      I kept on wishing that Bae Doona and Seon Seok Ku would be a couple again, like in “Sense8”! Hahahaha

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      Give it a watch! It’s very low key and pleasant

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    I have to get some momentum going on this watch. I started recently, but stopped after a few episodes.

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      I really like the show, but if I had a lot of things to do, it would be very low on my priority list

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Votes on whether this a PPL?

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So, is this something men do in Korea?

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    stand and sulk on a snowy day?
    (I don’t watch the show but that’s what it looks like is happening…)

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    I’m fascinated with this river crossing because it’s something that we don’t have where I live. There’s a similar crossing used often in the drama Matrimonial Chaos.

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OMG who else thinks Geon in Lovestruck looks like a baby Lee Chang-jun (actor Yoo Jae-myung)!!!

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Shin Hye-sun\’s lips look bloated from all that making out. Hope it\’s not makeup 🙃😘

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It’s striking how the life out of Lovestruck gets sucked out when Jae-won and Eun-oh are in the same scene. Also, was Kyeong-jun a creep or is it romantic since it worked out?

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    It’s romantic partially because it worked out, partially because she actually sort of seems to have liked from him the outset? Granted, chasing after her is weird, but it doesn’t seem like he pushed things too far or made her uncomfortable at all. I put it up to putting in a lot of initiative.

    And yeah, I agree re JW and EO. Eun-oh’s fun when Jae-won isn’t mentioned or in the picture. The show becomes soulless when he’s involved.

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Do any of you guys have thoughts on the film Burning?

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    I think the girl just ran away and he took the double meanings to whole new level.

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      Same. Sad movie, but I liked it

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        Wondering if it’s just me, but I lacked an emotional reaction to the movie? Like aside from the storytelling, I kind of hated all the characters..
        I mean, I get that from a technical standpoint, the story is unique. There’s a rich set of clues to support either interpretation of the ending. But other than comprehending this, I kind of didn’t ‘get’ why this movie is so acclaimed? Did the social commentary resonate with you guys?

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          No…it did not resonate because I neither repress myself to this extent nor do I play with other’s emotions this way. But I think the beauty of the movie lies in the double entendre. You can either interpret it as Ben being a murderer who died rightfully or Jong Su killed an innocent albeit shitty, pathetic guy like Ben when Haemi only ran away from it all.

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          It’s one of those art house movies that keep the distance towards the characters, so it feels a bit cold. It’s not really as if the characters resonated with me – fortunately I live in a society that isn’t as stratified as the one in SK (at least according to media depictions)- but I get it. I felt empathy towards those lonely kids without any real perspective. I guess we can include this one in the canon of Class Resentment Movies 😉
          And YAI is impeccable, as always! 💚

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    Loved it, loved it, loved it. For me it was the slow burn of envy/outrage in Yoo Ah-In’s character, Lee Jong-su. Nothing is certain, so we’ll never know what happened to her, but Steven Yeun’s Ben is so careless when it comes to others. He treats them like throwaways, human trash. The final scene was deeply cathartic, but also shockingly raw. It was a visual spectacular. The birds wheeling in the evening sky, the voices over the loud speakers from across the DMZ, Shin Hae-mi dancing in the dusk, all created a surreal, mysterious atmosphere that matched the puzzle of what actually took place.

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Hush got dark really fast..

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    But is it good? I’ve been watching for this one….

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      The editing is good and based on how ep 2 ended, I think hwang jung-min will really put on a show. I thought some of the themes were thoughtful and his character growth might be worth watching, but I can see how it could get boring. It’s more Memory than Misaeng.

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Lee Yeon and Rang had by the far the most compelling relationship in this drama.

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    They are the real OTP in this drama and their relation more real than the one Yeon and Jia have.

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      The OTP was so strong, I wished the show pulled a Goblin and let Rang recognize Yeon.

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    They are my favorite relationship of all.

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    My eyes welled up only twice in this show: when Rang watched Yeon’s message, and when Yeon watched Rang’s.

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      Same! Their story is the most compelling and most I cared about.

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Ep 14 kind of felt like the writer was trying to apologize to Kang Han Na. I can\’t believe how they\’re going to drag this low stakes angst for another episode..

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Seems like Ji-pyeong is finally entering SL territory.

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    Very evident at this point.

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    Moral of the story – they showed it in ep 1, and reconfirm in ep 13 (final confirmation by ep 16 i guess)

    Young San (whatever that AI is) is a fortune teller with 100% accuracy

    Congrats!!!.. They have finally created God

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All the beanies\’ posts fuming about DoDo makes me want to re-watch Black.

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What\’s Start-Up about again? Also, did Kang Han-Na get 5 min of screen time?

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    Only to be treated poorly by DalMi again.
    And I’m so mad at DalMi and halmoni for taking back mum but not having a nice word to InJae.

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      It feels like the writer is out get In-jae sometimes. Though as a viewer, I think it established that In-jae is being misunderstood. Dal-mi is really terrible to her.

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Based on the progression of the episode, it was clear DS would eventually want to reset his relationship with Dal-mi, aka go to America to become rich and famous. Like the idea of him taking time to become his own person, from honest foundations. Dislike the idea that he becomes a trophy for Dal-mi (though I\’m sure next episode, she\’ll accept him for who he is before he leaves). Kind of disappointed she asked for the fake version of him while drunk, \”you were my pride\”. I thought we just established DS doesn\’t want that kind of burden.

Dal-mi also seems to be regressing fast. What happened to the girl who dropped out of college to buy halmeoni a corn dog truck? Why is her self-worth tied to whether she likes 15 years ago DS or today\’s DS? Maybe the show hasn\’t highlighted just how much Dal-mi has felt out of place (CEO in tech) that even the slightest doubt that she was hired as part of a deal is enough to break her.

Also, I hope Ji-pyeong learns that it\’s not okay to talk down to people because he is an \”investor\”. Really disliked how cruel he was to Samsan-tech in ep 1 – almost gratuitous imo, under the pretense of \”I\’m doing you a favor by being a jerk, because the real world is much worse\”. I guess the real world is Yong-san\’s brother. I get it, you grew up without parents. But you can\’t go around stabbing people with words.

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    I dont think DM knew yet abt DS issues? And i think she hit rock bottom not just due to the lie, but also cos she’s stressed abt demo day & not knowing a lot of the tech stuff – in that scene where the 4 was discussing, DM stood outside the door trying to google stuff (i’ve done that in meetings too 😅)

    I smell a time skip coming but we still have a few episodes to go..

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unless Ji-pyeong hid how much the letters meant to him back then too, I\’m not quite sure I\’ve seen enough to believe that he developed feelings for Dal-mi. Also, in any other drama, the jig would be up and Dal-mi would date JP and friend-zone DS. Alas. But, this is also only episode 9. Who knows. Who knows.

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    Hey. I was thinking the same thing. Sure, he’s attracted to her but I can’t relate on how strong those feelings are.

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      he nearly cried! I think though, after seeing Do-san, he is more resentful of what he missed out on. He seems more interested in being included in family activities than being Dal-mi’s “other”.

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        I think he also felt the strong connection with DalMi back then. He was alone in the world and found a family in halmoni and also comfort in the letters, because he could also comfort DalMi. There’s this scene in episode one in which he goes to the bird house and he has a wide smile when he sees the letter inside, seats on the kerbstone devouring her letter. I think his feelings began there, like DalMi’s. But life was tougher for him than for DalMi, as he was alone in the world and felt betrayed by the one person he ever trusted.
        He still has those letters. We praise DalMi because she still has those letter, but he also kept them.
        And then he get to meet the present DalMi, and at first he feels indebted, but then I believe he got those feelings back, and besides she is beautiful, and someone he’s shared so many things back then. And what’s more important: she remembers them, she remembers every detail about what he told her. How touching can it be for someone who have lived his whole live alone to finally find someone who knows a part of him so well?
        This is why I believe in his feelings. He may have not recognize them at first, because he’s not good with feelings, he’s not good with love. He hasn’t felt much love in his life (parents, siblings, friends).
        This is what hurts me.
        On the other side, I’m also hurt by DoSan and how low his self esteem is and how he’s found the way to regain it by being the man who will stand by DalMi’s side.
        Both of them are heartbreaking.

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          Yep, also Do-san tends to be more open about his feelings compared to Ji-pyeong who is less open about them. In Ep 3, we see how Do-san is confident about his feelings for Dal-mi, whereas JP is in denial. Although I feel like sometimes Do-san’s like for Dal-mi doesn’t extend beyond the physical sometimes. It feels a bit shallow in comparison to her long history with Ji-pyeong & the letters that supported her and shaped her worldview. That’s something one doesn’t just throw away imo.

          I think he didn’t think much of her in Ep 1, since they were just teens. But we seen scenes where he seems to relish in writing towards her, and it seems with her, he found a soul mate that got him and vice versa. Both of them leaned on another to get through the hard times together. It’s just one person (JP) didn’t act upon those feelings. Love isn’t just about timing, but fighting for it. Whatever happens here, I hope it goes out naturally as it can be.

          Ep 9 was heartbreaking for me, I just hope that since the lies go out, that Ji-pyeong’s storyline/character doesn’t get downgraded in expense of DS/DM’s story. I think KSH has been a great addition here, and ngl but his character/love triangle aspect here is what gets its popularity let’s be real.

          Although in Ep 9, I was a bit turned off by how rash he was towards JP in the car scene. Like dude, man up, and ask JP to go along the ride since he has the most connection with Halmoni than you do. UGH, I just want JP to confront/act on those feelings and tell DM his true feelings. At least get it out there, so there’s no misunderstandings. Hmm…now with Alex back, I wonder if he won’t be their mentor anymore after this and Alex will be :((

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            I totally agree with you, specially with DoSan and being attracted only physically to DalMi and the car. I’ve just wrote abut it in my wall.

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            I understand that everyone in this story has certain issues; however, it’s still heartbreaking to see Do-san inviting everyone to a ‘date’ -everyone excluding JP. That one was so heartbreaking my head couldn’t find any rationale for such scene tbh. The reason why I was so hurt is because those people in Do-san’s car, and perhaps him too, are the JP’s ‘family.’ His grandma was there, his pen pal aka love interest was also there, even his ‘very close younger brother’ was also there. I truly felt for JP character regardless of whether the writer, the actors felt the same way with me or not.

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            @mmmmm that’s exactly how I felt. It was truly heartbreaking.

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          Yes to all of this. I didn’t really buy that JP had feelings for DM until after the birthday scene where she remembered his wish. His face in that moment, you could just tell how much it meant to him to have someone “know” him.

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    I would also like to believe my inkling that he just want to be acknowledged as the first love but his feelings aren’t romantic, I mean passionate romance. He feels jealous because he layed out the foundation this Do San person turned up to be. Give this man a credit. That’s what I think 🤔

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      Makes sense. It’s more of the feeling of missing out…

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Idk how I feel about kissing someone who thinks you\’re someone else..

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    It doesn’t feel good.
    Not to me.
    I’m sure DalMi likes DoSan for what he is now, but she loves DoSan for what they shared in the past.
    I think DalMi can be in love with the nerd DoSan she has just met, but she needs to know that out there it’s the DoSan that comforted her 15 years ago.
    It doesn’t feel good.

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      What’s worse is that the show will probably wait until Dal-mi is already in love with Do-san before she finds out, so she really isn’t given a chance to make her own choices (which is ironic since Dal-mi’s choices in life are what defines her already thin character).

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“Sara, have you heard of Alien Hand Syndrome?” LOL

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Can’t describe how much I grin watching sexually constipated Joo Sang-wook in DB’s Birth of a Beauty mini-player 🤣🤣.

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I don’t know about you guys but at some point during this scene, I thought to myself “her hair must feel very heavy”. Zero doubt that this production team inception’ed this thought into my head. Bravo

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I dare you to tell me a better written drama than FoS 2.
Also, I forgot how strong of a screen presence Lee Joon-hyuk has. Now, let\’s rewatch and wait for S3.

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    I could only say S1, but it wouldn’t be totally true.
    Right now I’m like a little girl who’s been asked by an adult: who do you love more, mum (S1) or dad (S2)? I can’t decide!

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      My reaction at the end of every episode from 12-16. S1: mouth hanging open, S2: applause. I think that sums up how I feel about each season.

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