Beanie level: Eunuch in drag

Record of Youth #3: This drama is really let down by its execution and some of the writers’ narrative choices. I don’t think the fact that its set in the modelling/entertainment world takes away from its potential to be relatable. In Fight For My Way, Aera wanted to be an announcer and Dongman wanted to do martial arts, neither of which I would consider to be extremely relatable to a lot of people. In fact, wanting to be a celebrity is probably something more of us have dreamt of before, whether casually or seriously.

The difference is that Hyejun supposedly already made it to the top at one point and then… fizzled out? People recognise him when he picks up shifts at Subway, but he doesn’t have a good pool of social media followers, even though he’s directly associated with the wildly popular Haehyo? And somehow, no one thinks that he has star potential, even though he was already big at one point, and again, is directly associated with Haehyo? I don’t know much about how the entertainment industry works, but it just seems a bit forced to me, like they have to come up with reasons why someone as handsome as Park Bogum isn’t successful and therefore is relatable to us common folk 😂

It doesn’t really feel like we need to root for him that hard because the writers will just find opportunities for him that will eventually lead to his success. There’s no good sense of any legitimate stakes or consequences if Hyejun fails, because we already know things will be fine, and I think therein lies the issue.

I also question the purpose of Jungha being Hyejun’s fan. That, in a vacuum, is relatable. We work hard to make ends meet every day, and fangirling is a nice escape at the end of the day. But once the fangirl meets their idol and becomes fast and good friends with them, the relatability is just lost, and it becomes hard to connect with the character, which is kind of the key point of coming of age/youth dramas.

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    I think they laid that out early on..
    Its HY’s mom.. she has actively sabotaged it while furthering his son’s career..

    there is more to it than meets the eye..

    but i agree this could be more gripping..
    and i can’t get a read on what director or how pBG is interpreting this character..

    for now, he is too confident of his decisions and strongly believes that he is the most rationale person around.. there is borderline judgemental trait as well

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beanies, does anyone know what the optimal dimensions are for profile pics on db? every time I change mine, it comes out kind of grainy and weird.

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Rookie Historian is truly my comfort drama 😂 I’ve been stuck in bed all weekend with awful period cramps and this rewatch is really cheering me up.

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    Aww get well soon. I too have cramps so I know how tough it can get.

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      Thank you Mani-chan! ❤️ I’ve been having bad cramps since I was a kid, it’s such a bummer. But I’m much better now, thankfully.

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    This is one of my comfort go-tos, too. <3 Feel better!

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someone please get this man some comfortable clothing… I know he’s about to go for an event but he’s also worn this same outfit like a million times… classical musicians can wear jeans too @wardrobe department 😩

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    He will next episode! 😆

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      just seen the preview. thank god 😂

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      I actually like it that he’s wearing the same outfits. It tells us that he’s not interested in fashion, and that he lives a simple and frugal life. Maybe he will start to wear more colorful clothes as he grows closer to Song-ah. 🙂

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        I don’t mind reusing outfits, for sure. It’s just, there seems to be a lack of distinction so as to when he wears the suit that seems kind of funny to me 😂

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        I also likes that he commutes. I’m not sure how much freedom a famous musician like him actually gets, (cuz wouldn’t he get groupies too?) but it’s nice to see him being able to walk freely on streets.

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          I guess classical musicians are famous in smaller circles. They’re not as widely popular as idols and actors, fortunately for them.*is suddenly reminded of a chapter of YY’s story where a raging fangirl threw herself against LMH* 🤣

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            That makes sense. Glad to know they’re able to get their freedom

            😡😡😡😡😡 @yyishere is posting libel about me!!!!! After I gave her my love And I supported her idea of publishing a book about how great and a wonderful man Lee Min Ho is, this is what she does to me in return! 😭😭

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            This reminds me of the WaPo Joshua Bell story :D: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnOPu0_YWhw

            Yeah, classical musicians have limited popularity. (thank goodness!)

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    I’ve known people (men) who never wear jeans. One who only wears suits and for a relaxed look, doesn’t wear a tie or suit jacket.

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    Waiting for the day Joon-young comes to see Song-ah looking like this: https://pin.it/7C7zCR2

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You and me both, Joonyoung. #Brahms4

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    I was so happy when he said that.

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    So glad he told her. As much as he might have liked her, I think he treasures the friendship he has with Hyun Ho more. I am curious has to why Jung Kyung suddenly had a change of heart…

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      (@jiayou replying you here too!)

      I was SO happy when he told her directly. She deserved it. I hate the way she’s been acting towards both him and Hyunho. It’s so selfish and manipulative.

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    I also had to take a screenshot of this moment LOL

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Record of Youth #2:

I liked this episode more than the premiere! I’ll wait for the recap to discuss more, but I guess the things that I’m thinking about the most here were:

1. Do you guys think Haehyo is genuinely naive or more wilfully blind about his privilege? Also, I deeply dislike his mother.

2. As much as I’m rooting for Hyejun, I kind of want him to just go to the army, but I can’t tell if that’s what’ll happen based on the preview for ep 3. Correct me if I’m wrong, but we’re still in the past (2018) now, right?

3. I miss my grandfather 🙁 hahaha.

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    1. I quite like Hae-Hyo’s mother. Although she’s pulling all the strings, she’s so earnest in doing so. And she’s not hateful of vindictive. She’s definitely classist, but I don’t hate her for it. She acts like many rich people act. They want their kid to be successful too. She doesn’t apologize for it. I don’t like her because she’s indirectly against Hye-Jun, but that’s not her fault. I’m sure Hae-Hyo will have a “come to Jesus” talk with her when he realizes how much she’s doing behind the scenes. And I wouldn’t doubt that Hye-jun’s mom wouldn’t be doing the same if she had the means.

    2. I think he does go to army. And we’ll have a time skip where he’ll come back in 18 months-2 years. That would make sense with the time line. I’d like to imagine that he met Du-Jun in the military who encouraged him to continue and becomes his mentor when he gets out. He is the nation’s boyfriend after all. 🤣

    3. I miss mine too.

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      who is nation’s boyfriend Du-Jun or PBG?
      Who is Du-Jun btw?

      And, lol, i thought they would end the whole drama with PBG going to military because (you know he is going to the military 😛 )

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      lol.. i get it now..

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      I think it’s the classicism for me. I don’t doubt her intentions are sincere, I just wish she didn’t have to look down on Hyejun/his mother. That kind of thing always rubs me the wrong way, no matter how realistic it is 😂

      My ideal army scenario is for Hyejun to become an army sunbae to SHINee’s Key (who enlisted early in 2019). They become bffs and Key recommends Hyejun to tvn for Drinking Solo season 2 (filmed and produced in much more ethical circumstances) and Hyejun becomes part of the Noryangjin trio, LOL.

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    I’m wondering what is in this character that made Shin Ae ra come back to the small screen. There must be sth special but when she’s onscreen I just keep thinking she’s so pretty.

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      ohhhhhhhhhhhh

      that’s who she is..

      i kept thinking i have seen this mother somewhere.. she is glamourous, but couldn’t place her

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        I couldn’t either, had to search but I kept thinking that I’ve seen her somewhere. That was in Master in the house and just generally when I’ve searched about Cha In Pyo.

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    I think Hae-hyo is just naive. I think he probably means well, but, as with most people who have privilege, he doesn’t realize the advantages he has and is so set on believing he earned his success that the thought of his background probably doesn’t even enter his mind as a reason for why he is accomplishing things while Hye-jun isn’t.

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      It is probably the most frustrating thing about rich kids. When someone doesn’t see all the privileges they had, it makes them indirectly disregard other’s efforts.
      “I achieved all this by myself. He didn’t. Thus, he didn’t work as hard as I”

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        @smaltwalt @nerdy I think the reason I was wondering is because he did seem to ask his mum if she knew anyone at the production company or something like that… but then he accepted her shifty answer so easily so, yeah. I believe that he cares about Hyejun and genuinely considers him his best friend. But still, naive.

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    I think it’s part wilfully blind and part naive. He suspects the mum might be up to something but he doesn’t want to bother about it, and he genuinely likes Hye Jun so he wants to be successful together. But if HJ ever found out how he got the Arena job he’d probably be mad at HH.

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      Yeah. I think trying to dig deeper into his mum’s dealings is just too much of a hassle for him at this point, and really, what would be in it for him? He’s riding high right now, so might as well carry on.

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    He seems genuinely clueless and no that doesn’t make me warm up to him to the least bit or make him like me. At least a moderate amount of self awareness is a good thing and can come in handy. The mother at least knows that and is doing everything that she can to help her son succeed which isn’t too off mark. I don’t hate her for that. It happens in reality. She is classist and fake though and don’t like that part.

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      Yeah I’m not sure how I feel about him tbh. I think he’s a good friend and all, but eh. There’s nothing overly wonderful about him right now, to me at least. Agree on his mum as well. I don’t blame her for wanting to make use of everything she can to help her son out. She’s a mother, and that’s normal. But it’s the classicism and the condescension towards Hyejun and his mother that rubs me the wrong way.

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    1. HaeHyo is blind to his privilege and a bit naive on how the world works due to that privilege.
    2. I sorta want Hye Jun to get the enlistment out of the way and come back to prove all his naysayers wrong.

    Shin Aera is really pretty and I understand why her character is the way she is. It doesnt mean I like her classist attitude though.

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Record of Youth Premiere: I’m on the fence about this. I don’t think it was the greatest of all premieres, but that’s okay with me. Sometimes shows need a bit of time to warm up and I’m keen to keep going because I really like Park Bogum and Park Sodam.

Off the bat, I really like Hyejun, but I’m not sure I would agree with all of his choices. I can empathise with where he’s coming from, but at the same time, I also understand what his dad and hyung are saying too (although I know my delivery would probably be vastly different 😂).

It’s not easy to chase your dream when the odds are stacked against you. Sometimes bowing out is just the best thing that a person can do, especially when they’re balancing the reality of having certain duties relating to e.g. filial piety (a big thing that I definitely relate to as someone who was raised with certain Asian values common to those underpinning the family setups in this drama). That’s probably the position that Hyejun’s family members are taking right now, so it’ll be up to him to resolve those things. Right now I’m feeling like his family members’ concerns are totally valid. Our boy only has 85,000 won in his bank account and he’s working what? Three jobs? Something needs to change.

I’m in my early twenties myself, so the coming of age theme is one that I do enjoy watching even if it can get a bit tropey/overdone. I just question the execution/some of the dialogue that we saw in the premiere. Interested to see where it’ll go from here.

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    Agree. He’s been at it for 8 years and from the looks of it his family did give him a chance and supported him at the start. Which is why I don’t dislike dad. He’s being a dad and doing what parents do. Worry about his son’s future in the long run. Of course, like you said, maybe he just needs to discuss it a lot more calmly. But disregarding the fact that we are suppose to root for our ML, he does come off a little snarky when speaking to his dad. I would never be sarcastic to my parents lol! I think the writers are doing it on purpose though and one of the biggest things I’m looking forward to (and that I’m a bit apprehensive about) is how Show is going to deal with the whole follow your dreams vs reality dilemma. Here’s to hoping it’s a little bit of both.

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      I hope the show does tap into the dreams vs reality part because what I’ve seen of yet seems like the parents are valid but he is too attached to his dream. That in itself is part of a reality that most dramas ignore but it is shown here. However, usually dramas don’t show the dreams vs reality divide and I’m apprehensive that it will go the “since he persisted his dream came true” path.

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        I think it’s very likely that he will succeed, but I’m hoping his success is more realistic that just success because he’s the ML. They did that really well in 2017’s Fight For My Way, where the characters “achieved their dreams” so to speak, but not in this picture perfect way that other dramas tend to rely on.

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      I’m going to hazard a guess and say the way he talks to Dad is probably a product of a. years of putting up with Dad’s harsh manner and b. resentment born out of Dad’s alleged favouritism towards Hyung. Not that that necessarily excuses it, but on that point, I kind of understand him.

      As much as I agree with what Dad is getting at, I think the frustration and fear he has re: making sure Hyejun doesn’t waste his life on a pipe dream sometimes manifests itself in the wrong way, i.e. right message, wrong delivery for the intended audience. Then again, where would we be without the whole Asian Dad Who Can’t Communicate trope 😂

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    I’m with you on all of this. I’m mid-twenties – sometimes I say I’m in my early twenties, even though technically I’m straight in the middle of the third decade of my life – and I understand the “coming-of-age” theme and usually don’t mind it. I think my problem with this show is that the first episode seemed to strongly push a certain message about individuality, authenticity, and chasing your dreams without including enough complexity. As a result, it came off as a bit childish and naive to me.

    I don’t want to make it sound like I hate young people trying to carve out a place for themselves in the world or that it’s bad to pursue goals. But I honestly think a dose of realism is appropriate in a youth drama as well. Real people have responsibilities – to themselves, to their families, to their friends, to the broader society – and these have to be balanced against the pursuit of individualistic goals. What that means in practice is that compromises are inevitable. Now, I’m not saying that the drama has to be make Hye-jun give up or something like that. However, I would like it if the show tries to get Hye-jun to properly grapple with this stuff and tries to portray his family’s concerns a bit more sympathetically.

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      I definitely agree with what you’re saying, although I do feel like his responses to his family, though somewhat immature/naive/selfish, are not wholly unrealistic/unbelievable. It’s probably a very natural thing to feel resentful of the fact that the people you believe should love you unconditionally seem to be antagonistic towards the idea of you going all in on your dream, even if your propensity to fail is high. It may not be a fair response, or a responsible one, but it’s one that I feel does happen in reality. Not everyone will feel as though the duties they have to others take precedence over the duties they owe to themselves, and I just happen to be on the side of the fence where that kind of attitude is not one that I can really sympathise with a great deal.

      Having said that, I do hope the drama goes in the direction where he does realise where his family members are coming from so that they can reconcile/get to a place where they’re more willing to understand/communicate with each other. After all, that’s kind of what coming of age is to me—growing as person and realising how to be better, as opposed to just, success in a vacuum.

      We shall see!

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    Lets be honest, I am 29…and I am doing things vastly different than I imagined when I started a career. Life is not predictable. Your aspirations are far more attainable when paying your bills, medical bills, saving is not plagueing you. We all have to fend for ourselves first and chasing your dream while doing that takes a lot. I hope they can send a realistic message here without you know being negative. I think Go Back Spouses did that super well while Itaewon class was the worst in terms of that. So, lets see.

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TAEMIN IS BACK AND BETTER THAN EVER!!!!!!

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    Agreed. This comeback is SO GOOD. The smooth vocals in the chorus, the choreo. Chef’s kiss.

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      He really went all out with the choreo, props to him. Against all odds, Criminal has surpassed Press Your Number as my favourite Taemin title 🥳

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    *screams* I only just recently came into full appreciation for Taemin. And now I get a comeback! *scurries off to listen to album*

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      welcome to the club and congrats to you for skipping all the waiting 😂🥳 enjoy the album!! amazing to believe that we get ANOTHER ONE after this!!

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        There’s ANOTHER one??? Omg, this is news to me. I somehow missed the part where it says “Act 1.” Do we know when it will be released?

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          YES!! And Taemin actually said that Act 2 is the powerful one between the 2 so… whew, there’s a lot coming.

          We don’t know when Act 2 is coming out yet, but I’m hoping they announce it soon!

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ok I\’m totally on board for Do You Like Brahms? but I have to echo @callie\’s sentiment and question those weird clothing choices… especially Jung Kyung\’s wardrobe omg those weird dull outfits age Park Jihyun so much…

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    They’re making some of them look like they’re in their forties… I don’t get it 😂

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      Lol. It’s too conservative right? Ironically, old K-dramas I would see more exposed shoulders/arms and low cut shirts and short skirts with high heels all the way up to 2013/14. It’s crazy how K-dramas seem to be regressing back now then compared to the 2000s with fashion/etc.

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        It’s so odd! And there’s no consistency either. Songah’s office wear is fairly youthful and has her wearing brighter colours, e.g. that yellow jacket from the first day, baby pink, etc. But then on the flipside at home—where I would imagine you would want to be comfy, e.g. shorts/tights and an old t-shirt—she put on that odd ankle-length off-white monstrosity with the huge sailor collar. What??

        Meanwhile they’ve got Jungkyung in outfits that look like they belong to her widowed grandma.

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          Lol ikr? It feels very stuffy. Maybe secretly there 40 yrs old cosplaying as college aged musicians 😉 ? #Makjangtwist

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        Right? Turn on Coffee Prince and literally everyone’s wearing tank tops with their chest and arms on full display. So perplexing.

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          In 2007, the Korean Television Committee enacted a law that strongly against depicting scenarios like that (bare shoulders/arms/chest/etc). I mean IOTNBO got fined (huh?!) for that scene with Moon foundling KSH’s chest. Its crazy seeing shows from the late 00s to early 10s, with actresses wearing short mini dresses/heels/exposed shoulders. Ex. Kim Suh Ah in I Do, I Do looked amazing (2012) but I feel like now she would be covered up. I also heard the Hallyu wave in Middle East (which is more conservative) plays a role? Although the kiss scenes have gotten much better lol?

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      I was shocked when I did a wiki search and found out that she’s only 25… those outfits need to go.

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    She looks like she’s always at a funeral or something

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and here’s one more! @ally-le
I wish there were a better video (with better outfits, hahaha), but this was as good as I could find on youtube.

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@ally-le hopefully this isn’t a repeat, but here’s one for dear azzo’s wedding present! one of my favourites ever :’)

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going to start on Alice and Do You Like Brahms? today. I hope these turn out to be two more beans to collect!

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ep 1 of taemin’s mini reality series ‘RARE-TAEM’ came out earlier today ♡ I’m so excited for the album to be out! 4 more days!

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    Thanks for posting this! I didn’t know about this, but no I eagerly look forward to watching!

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      It was announced on twitter a couple of weeks back, I believe! I’ve been a big shawol for years now so I’ve got notifications on for all of shinee’s socials 😂

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so… how we all feeling about how Was It Love ended…

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    earned a beanie…

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      it’s only my 4th of this year ugh… I don’t know if I feel like I deserve 5 beans just for making it through or if I feel like I shouldn’t have watched it 😂

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        indeed, a dilemma. But I say, we earn a bean for going through that!

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        this might be a stupid question but what do you mean by bean? I’ve seen it a lot but never really understood it haha

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          It means that for every show you completed you get a bean. At the end of the year DB has a “bean count” where you can give your beans to your favourite shows. I only have 5 beans so far this year. Hope that helps!

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            Ohhh, got it! Thanks!

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            I’m on 4, but I’m hoping to snag another 3 with Alice, Record of Youth and Seongwu’s More Than Friends/Number of Cases. Sad to say there haven’t been any historical dramas on my list this year 🙁

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      I still love the cast. There. Just them. And I got a bean! 😂

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    the noble idiocy really annoyed me and I just don’t understand how aejung could just embrace daeoh after he went off the grid for TWO WHOLE YEARS. literally. what on earth?! make it make sense…

    and hear me out @writers, but if the central conflict was to do with this whole idea of abandonment/leaving people behind/etc., why would you just write that all over again and then have it suddenly be ok? what… what motivation could aejung possibly have for trusting daeoh again? and I’m saying this honestly as someone who was largely sympathetic towards daeoh over the course of the show

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    I couldn’t get through the first 15 minutes so I will just read a recap, I went so far as 15 episodes of shaking my head but enough is enough.

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      I pretty much fast-forwarded through a good part of the first 15-20 min LOL… I only stuck around to collect the bean

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    The probably good I saw was the last 1.5 mins

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    My love for Song Ji Hyo got me through it!
    The story was just 😩 *sigh…
    I am relieved that it was done and I will never going to recommend it to others.
    I was looking into my 2020 beans list, this is the only ‘bad’ bean so far.

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      no way I would recommend this either! it’s so weird because I saw people on twitter saying it was really good and I was thinking… huh? did we watch the same drama?

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        🤣 😂 😂

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        That’s the beauty of being in DB, I can post that I didn’t enjoy the drama and everyone’s ok with it. But when I tweet it, I get a lot of hate.

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    It was about as stupid as the rest of the drama, so I guess I got exactly what I expected

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      pfffttt. I actually was holding out hope that we’d get a predictable but decent ending. I can’t believe I was wrong. The ending was so stupid. Thank god it’s over.

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    Relief. It’s over!

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tw: death

Woke up to the news of Chadwick Boseman’s passing. A hero to so many, gone way too soon. Sending everybody peace and strength today.

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I know a lot of us have done the most loved/hated drama soulmate meter, but what about a dream cast soulmate meter? I was having a discussion with a friend and it got me curious, so here’s my dream cast at the moment (of course, it wouldn’t make sense for them to all be together in the same work, but for the sake of the game…)—

10% – Kim Soohyun
10% – Jang Dongyoon
10% – Jung Kyungho
10% – Kim Woobin
10% – Do Kyungsoo
10% – Kim Jiwon
10% – Kim Seulgi
10% – Chun Woohee
10% – Esom
10% – Park Hyesoo

Bonus: 5% for Ong Seongwu, 5% for IU, 5% for SHINee’s Key and 5% for Park Kiwoong

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    I see Jung Kyung Ho, I approve! 😍

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    50%, plus 10% for Key and Park Ki-woong 💜💜

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    One of the beanie pointed about (was it you @katakwasabi?) that Shin Sung Rok and Lee Jae Wook sort of look similar so she would love a drama with both of them as siblings and ever since I have wanted this, so this would be my dream cast number 1.

    Fro dream cast 2, some beanies have said that they want a college drama with Kim So Hyun and her short hair and this appeals to me too. Other cast I would like would be Park Se wan, Kim Hyuang gi, Kim Yoo Jung, Kwak Dong Yeon, Ong Seong Woo, Jang Dong Yoon and Shin Jae Ha as fellow students. And then ofc we could have Jung Kyung Ho, Kim Ji Seok, Yoo Ah In, Kang Ki young, Jung So Min, Han Ye Ri and Choo Ja Hyun as parents or teachers but I think even for the sake of the game I’m stretching it too far😅

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      Yessss~~~ it was me who said they look similar 🤭. I want Shin Sung Rok and Lee Jae Wook drama too~ a siblings or as young dad and son pair but not rivals please, I want flufffff 🐑. I’ve made up too many possible plots. From daycare centre to rock band. Hahahahaha

      Example: https://www.dramabeans.com/members/katakwasabi/activity/911485/

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        I LOVE THIS IDEA, how have I never thought of this before?! The daycare idea omg I’m squealing. I also love the thought of them in something darker. Imagine them as siblings like Jang Dohan and his brother from Lookout… that would be so gripping. Now I’m going to keep hoping this happens 😭

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      omg yes, this college drama idea sounds awesome. I would pay good money to see Park Sewan as the tough sibling that defends her soft-hearted brother Ong!! Plus Jung Kyungho or Kang Kiyoung as their cool dad? Sign me up.

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    I’ve got 30% and then 10% for OSW and Key!

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    50% and 2 of them were in your bonus list.

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    I’m at 45% – Kim Soohyun, Jang Dongyoon, Jung Kyungho, Do Kyungsoo, and Key.

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a drama a day challenge ✨

day 6: mystery/thriller/crime 💎 signal

the FEELS. this drama will stay with me forever. I still think about it from time to time. lee jaehan 형사님, are you there?! will we ever get a season 2 @tvn?

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I\’m finally a eunuch in drag!! goodbye noble idiot, I won\’t miss you! 😂

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I wonder if Jung Haein will ever take on a lead role in a sageuk… I feel like he has That Face that people like seeing in period dramas. Imagine him doing like a Moonlight Drawn By Clouds kind of thing (but better). I\’d be down to watch that.

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    I hope so. He looked really nice in the fusion sageuk “The Three Musketeers”.

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    He’s done quite a lot of those in movies.
    I really want to see him in something dark that expands on what we saw of him in Prison Playbook

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      Yes please! He has the range for it.

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        As I’ve recently discovered! After watching Prison Playbook I’ve been wondering why he’s been going for those slow-paced romances. He can do a lot more!

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      Agreed! I actually thought that he was a bit boring until I finally watched Prison Playbook and discovered that he has all this potential. I hope his next pick (possibly that jtbc project by the sky castle team?) has him playing a role that gives him the room to use the chops he has!

      I haven’t caught any of his movies, but I’m interested now. Any recommendations?

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    Honestly, I was so happy with his last drama (and he’s generally a great actor, notwithstanding some questionable previous drama choices) that I’ll watch anything he decides to do next.

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happy 七夕 from xiao zhan!
his advice for people alone on valentine’s: try not to be alone next year! 😂

this one’s for you @bebeswtz

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