Beanie level: Water maid

(2) It’s just the very old belief that women are the property of men, to be used as men see fit. Traditionally the only barrier was a situation in which a woman was the property of another man — in which case the offense would have been against the other man. It’s very recently in history that that notion started to change. They, of course, want to go back to traditional ways in this area.

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(1) I read a blog called Lawyers, Guns and Money, and one of the commenters wrote the following in the context of the assault on reproductive rights in the US but generally revelatory.

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Oy vey: non-consensual neck grabbing is a big no no for me. Do better TRS!

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    Yup the last few minutes were icky. I watched raw so I have no idea what they were saying but San lost a few points there.

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    Ugh hard same. Being rejected and feeling unhappy is no excuse for that San!

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Insomniac here: was rewatching TRS’s ep 5 in the dead of last night. When YiSan said to Deokmi ‘I long for a voice’, Is that code for ‘I long for your voice’? That’s what I’m pretending he said anyway

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Rowoon’s lovely voice (in the KA OST): https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iUXLVN54ULI&feature=youtu.be

I always hope the artists who I like aren’t reactionaries and/or sexist, misogynistic, racist creeps

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One of the things that delights me to no end in KDrama is that unlike most western shows where the actors pretend to eat, eg a desiccated lettuce leaf – LOL – , KDrama actors mostly tuck in. 😭🥰

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    I was just telling someone that! HAHAHAHA!
    KDramas actors/actresses spend a good 15% of the drama either eating, making food, thinking about food and/or asking their loved one if they have eaten!!

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      So so true! It is delightful!

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      You are so right. My Korean friend explained to me that what appears to be a preoccupation with food has a poignant basis as food was scarce for many Korean people throughout many eras in Korea, and especially after the war in the last century so the language has bcome to reflect these concerns. I did some research and found these interesting expressions from a blogpost:
      “다 (jal meogeotseumnida) Literal Translation: “I ate well”

      This Korean Phrase Really Means: “The meal was good” or “Thank You”

      Explanation: It does mean, “I ate well”, but it also has some different uses. For example, if someone treats you to a meal, you would say this instead of “thank you”. Think of it as an indirect thank you”

      Also,
      “ 잘 먹겠습니다 (jal meokgetseumnida)

      Literal Translation: “I will eat well”

      This Korean Phrase Really Means: “I will eat well because of your effort”

      Explanation: Koreans say this before eating to show appreciation to the person who prepared for the food. It’s kind of like saying “thanks for preparing this, I’m going to have a good meal because of you”.

      많이 드세요 (mani deuseyo)

      Literal Translation: “Eat a lot”

      This Korean Phrase Really Means: “Have a great meal”

      Explanation: This is similar to saying “Bon appetite” in English. In the post-Korean war times, Koreans had food shortages. Therefore, this was a polite thing to say to make sure the people eating had enough to eat. It shows consideration for the other people.

      맛있게 드세요 (masitge deuseyo)

      Literal Translation: “Eat deliciously”

      This Korean Phrase Really Means: “I hope the food is delicious” or “Enjoy the food you’re about to eat”

      Explanation: In English, it would sound funny to use “delicious” to describe the way in which you’d eat food. In Korean, it means to wish that the other person would have a delicious meal.

      밥 먹었어요? (bap meogeosseoyo?)

      Literal Translation: “Did you eat?”

      This Korean Phrase Really Means: “How are you?” or “Did you eat?”

      Explanation: As mentioned before, Korea was devastated after the war, and food was harder to come by. Therefore, to show your concern for someone’s well being, you’d ask if they had eaten. While Korea has an abundance of food now, the phrase has still carried on as a greeting to show concern for other people you know. You can tell that food is really important in Korea, so make sure you’ve mastered the basics of table manners here”.

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I’ve a confession to make: I had limited time last w/end but couldn’t wait for the new The Red Sleeve eps! But guess what other Saejuk I totes forgot to watch? TKA!! 🥺😩😭

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    The King’s Affection eps 15 and 16 had a weird tonal shift. The romcom feel seemed off and I felt that our leads were just going through the motions as opposed to bursting at the seams with love, longing and apprehension as they acted as though nothing was wrong. I kept thinking how much better the Red Sleeve dialogue, plot and depth of acting are. And I like the leads and some of the other characters in the KA!

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      It seemed to lose intensity by comparison, but I’m trying not to compare because it has so much further to go and the politics are kicking in.

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I can’t be bothered watching western series anymore since I discovered good KDramas. I can’t understand my emotional and intellectual response as fierce and passionate as it has been. Will this fade?

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    eventually, I guess… but don’t ask me… more than 5 years not watching western dramas 😂😂😂😂😂

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    Hum… I think there will be up and down, sometimes you will see all their defaults and sometimes you will just love everything.

    Personally, I still watch western series.

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      I hear you. I see the faults for sure but it is my initial heightened emotional response which has confused me. I have been a cinephile for a very long time but this, is sublimely strange.

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        Isn’t it? I wonder why. I’m hooked on the yearning, I have to confess. But it’s also the cinematography, the OSTs, the mixed genres, the surprising directions, and the meaningful touchstones threaded throughout.

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          Are you my long lost twin? Like you can read my mind!😂

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          One of my number reason is the story starts at episode 1 and ends at episode 16 or 20.

          I dropped so many US shows because they didn’t know if their show will be canceled or not, so the end was ambiguous. Or they have no idea after 2 seasons how to develop their characters…

          I often was disapointed by the end in Kdramas, but at least it was over.

          I really like that Kdramas film outdoor and not like US show in big studios but it looks really fake… The Kdramas always chose the most beautiful places to film.

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    Got into Kdramas in 2015, switched almost entirely to them in 2016, and I didn’t watch an Occidental show for like… several years after that.
    Even now, I rarely watch a tv show in English. Maybe 1 or 2 a year, often a rewatch, than anything new; most of them don’t interest me at all, for the same reasons and more that I quit them in 2016.

    But then on the other end, I’ve got much more critical of Kdramas over that period as well.

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      Thank you. I appreciate hearing your view. I critique them as I watch them too, and sometimes brutally in my head but I feel like I have been pleasantly possessed? Is science going to discover a gene for being predisposed to liking KDrama which can be turned on suddenly?😂😭

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        A gene 😂😂😂 They really hook you in, don’t they. I’m sure there are multiple theories and essays worth of content for why kdramas are so addictive… (alas low on my essay writing priorities list 😉 )

        Wait till you discover Cdramas… they’re a whole other level of crack lmao.

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      This is very similar to me. I am much more prone to dropping/merrily fast forwarding stuff I’m not in the mood for than I was but I barely watch anything new in English. My western pop culture knowledge is so out of date lol.

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        My western pop knowledge was pretty terrible to begin with, let alone now! I didn’t grow up with TV and only really started watching it period, and more regularly, for myself in about 2013/2014, when I could watch online 😂😂

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          I also did not grow up with tv – I started watching more when I got to uni but back then there was no streaming, so it was easier just turn it off and not watch more 😅 my tv watching really took off when I was pregnant and too sick to do anything else….dramas were good because my husband didn’t want to watch them with me 😂😂

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    The emotional response is strong! I actually started watching K dramas before any Western series (if Disney doesn’t count lol) so they have always been a filler for me if I really want to watch one because I’m hardly ever that invested in them. Other than kdramas, I think C dramas and T dramas basically, shows that follow the same storytelling arc, elicit the same response. I haven’t been able to get over that for 10 years but sometimes I wish I could because they take too much of my head space and time which should be used on other productive things.

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    The only Western series I have followed since I devoted my time to Kdramas 8 years ago were Game of Thrones, Big Bang Theory and Downton Abbey. I have started watching again since the lockdown last year but Kdramas are still top of my list.

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    I arrived in kdramaland in 2016 with HEALER but prior probably late in 2015 I entered asian dramas via TVB Hong Kong cop shows with LIVES OF OMISSION (2011) my first. Both were on Hulu US at the time. In April 2016 iirc Hulu dropped the Korean drama I was watching so I dropped them and subscribed to Viki and I don’t believe I have watched a western series since.

    If I could give one piece of advice. I started with a self imposed rule: “Start a drama, finish a drama.” Don’t give yourself that burden. I can’t tell you what freedom I felt when I dropped my first drama (CHILDREN OF A LESSER GOD (2018). The subs on an ‘alternate’ site were indecipherable.)

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      Thank you Bong-soo, you fellow Healer lover! What a disappointment Ji Changwook’s career has been since then? Poor thing. Must be weeping on his pile of millions!
      I really appreciate your response and advice. I am brutal with dropping what I don’t like. Life is truly too short for being indecisive.

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        Re JCW. I have high hopes for his upcoming projects particularly TELL ME YOUR WISH.
        Re ‘dropping’. I have probably dropped more dramas this year than ever. You are right. Life is too short. On the other hand after probably 3-4 years since my last cdrama I have finished 5 cdramas this year all in the crime/mystery genre.

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      I second the advice— it took me a long time to get to that point, but but yeah don’t be afraid to drop.

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    I feel you on this. I think I can count on one hand the number of western shows I’ve watched recently. I used to watch a lot more before, but I can’t be bothered with it nowadays. It’s not that I dislike them or think that kdramas are inherently superior or anything. I’m just not as invested and there’s only so much time a person has. The only western show I’m watching now is HBO’s Succession.

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    *whisper* Watch Ted Lasso.

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    Felt the same way for the first 2 years, as I explored several genres. I did not drop any thus I learned what hate-watching is. But now I mix with western, chinese, japanese shows already. I also dont hate watch anymore, I just drop them.

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    For me, I doubt there is any going back. Just not interested. Every now and then, I think I’ve bottomed out, but no… Occasionally I need a C-drama fix, but I’m fussy. I need there to be a historical context. I intersperse my kdrama with kfilm. I’m absorbed by khistory and politics, especially contemporary. I don’t get why it’s all so addictive. My deepest fear: I’m afraid it’s a character failing on my part. It’s my guiltiest pleasure.

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I’ve only been around for a couple of months so wanted to ask if it has been always the case that the bloggers here have next to no direct interactions with the commenters? Was this ‘wall’ always so?

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    I’ve been here a few years now and it’s always been like this, admittedly I’m not really active on the various posts here only on the wall and even then rarely, from what I’ve seen most of the interactions are between the users.

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    Well, actually it wasn’t always like this. Dramabeans used to be run by the beloved overlords @javabeans and @girlfriday. They launched this new site in April 2017.
    The staff and writers have changed since then, and GF and JB had to sell the site as it wasn’t providing enough revenue for them to well, live off. Since it changed hands, the interaction between Minions (Bean-staff) and Beans (us!) has got less, I would say.
    @mary used to be very active comparatively on comments and the wall, and she used to work for Dramabeans.
    Back in 2017 you see a bit more of the minions posting or commenting as well.

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      Thank you for being the institutional memory!

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      back then, @javabeans and @girlfriday sometimes comment on recap threads. I wonder if they still here even after they sold this site
      and you remind me that I havent seen @mary too

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      Wow I didn’t know that they sold the site. I actually know DB from the old website but left after they switched to the new site and only came back here last year. I vaguely remember they had some activities with The Swoon (Netflix’s fan service) but not sure if they work/worked for Netflix though.

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      I miss Mary (and her sense of humor) sooooo much!

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      I feel so old here, having followed this site since 2007 when live-watching Coffee Prince and waiting fervently for Javabeans’ recap. She started the Dramabeans blog around 2006 and it had been her personal blog until it became so big and popular that GirlFriday came in together with others in the 2010s – notable bloggers including HeadsNo2 and Gummimochi (both of whom have quite different drama taste than JB and GF) and than later on, the lovely Mary.

      In the hay days, there were DB face-to-face parties held at different cities in the US and that lasted few years. Over time, this site is a community of kdrama fans. After the site was sold to James Sun, JB and GF fade out and honestly, the family feel is no longer there. And I must say the attachment to bloggers is almost non-existent. It’s really the Beanies section that still draw me in as the news are often behind. Miky is always the first to report any casting news ahead the website. BUT, we should be grateful that this site is still run because it’s by and large a collegial haven for k-sharing.

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    Before the fanwall existed, they interacted quite a lot on drama episode recap comments section.

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What I have just read is deeply sad but about the RL Royal Noble Consort Uibin Seong. It broke my hear a little so be warned if you decide to read it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Noble_Consort_Uibin_Seong

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    They were only a few paragraphs but all were filled with tragedy. I hope there was much more to her life than what she is remembered for.

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    So young….

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      Just replete with sorrow. Harrowing. I am going to cry buckets if the show emulates RL.

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Not about KDrama but I couldn’t let this go. An indigenous actor of immense power, David Gulpilil has
died: Vale

https://www.smh.com.au/national/once-in-a-generation-actor-david-gulpilil-dies-20211129-p59d94.html

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    So so so sad. He is a great loss and deserving of a State funeral imo. I’m attaching one of Archie Roach’s songs with Patrick Mau here and on my fan wall, Freedom, in honour of our Indigenous artists, performers, and all-round creative people who constitute the cultural heart of our nation.
    https://youtu.be/xMqG_LyD9s4
    Vale. David Dalaithngu, Yolngu man

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      I gratefully second everything you wrote. I love Archie and have seen him in concert a few times.
      Indeed a state funeral would be fitting. If only. It is deeply sad. Our indigenous artists are indeed the heart of our nation. Thanks for this splendid and heartfelt sentiment. I am so pleased that we connected here, and particularly on this issue. I will go now and treat myself to the clip you posted. Please take care and stay safe.

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        I just looked at your fan wall. Is that a cattle dog puppy??? 😍😍😍😍

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          Yep. I am lucky enough to get to spend some time with her every week but I never saw her as a puppy which I am (graciously) bitter about as I would have stolen her away. She is five now!

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      Yes, a state funeral is right on.

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      I wanted to apologise for not following Aboriginal post death naming protocol. I am mortified. You were on the ball from the beginning. I feel terrible because I know that yet lost sight of it.

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        I’m sure no one minds. I only realised from hearing it on the ABC news. The family gave permission for his work to be shown and said that what he was to be called. We all make mistakes and I’ve made plenty. His spirit will live on.

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    With a h/t to the lovely @dramalover4ever who alerted me to this wonderful song and let me be a copycat.
    In honour of David Dalaithngu, Yolngu man

    https://youtu.be/xMqG_LyD9s4

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One more thing re Junho, for some reason, I can’t reconcile his idol and acting personas. It has done my head in.🥰🥰 Have a look at this if you haven’t seen it before. https://youtu.be/P_bie8M7Css

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    LOL. Funny, I saw him as an actor before I saw him perform in 2PM. When was that? It seems a fair bit earlier.

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      The same with me!

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      Me too – Just Between Lovers was my first encounter of Junho. Seeing this dance is really wow and wow.

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    I know him as an actor first in Chief Kim. Loved him there. Then also loved his portrayal in JBL. 😊
    He is amazing in that clip!

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      I have started watching Chief Kim and I am enjoying it so so much! NamKoong Min is a trip. So so good! And his chemistry with all of the staff in the Accounting Dept is incredible!

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        Glad that you are enjoying Chief Kim. NGM is hilarious in that show. So glad he took that role since couldnt imagine anyone else playing Chief Kim. Also He and Junho have great chemistry too!

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    Baby Junho being amazing.

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      I adore that you called him baby Junho. He was so young. I think the vid’s date was 2011?

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        2009. The year after their debut. He was just 19. He was a baby.

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Best idol turned actor: As much as I have come to be deeply fond of Rowoon’s acting persona, Junho has captivated me with his acting prowess and is just a wonder in episode 5 of the Red Sleeve.

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    He’s very versatile and you can see how passionate he is about acting. His dedication is what made me a fan. Have you seen his other dramas?

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      Hello Yongsital! I have been watching ‘Wok of Love’ but haven’t seen anything else as yet. I am going to catch up though. If you have time, please recommend his good series/films. I can’t easily find Korean films as the Netflix Korean collection as well as Viki’s is pretty execrable in my region but regardless, I am always on the lookout! Thank you kindly!

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        Oh he’s good there. My ultimate favorite is Just Between Lovers. This is a must watch for all Junho fans. His character interpretation is a raw yet beautiful portrayal of a broken man picking himself up. I don’t know where you live but here in the US it is available on Viki and I belive Netflix was about to premiere it under the title Rain or Shine.

        I also really like his antagonist character in Chief Kim.

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          Thanks so much! I am in Australia so hopefully Netflix won’t let me down!

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    Others are good, but Junho is in a league of his own.

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    Yep, I’m really seeing that way right now 👍🏼 He’s just great.

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I have just joined and have become a supporter. I have also just started learning Korean so looking forward to reading interesting and thought provoking recaps as well as commenting!

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