Beanie level: Errand boy

It is impossible for me to suspend disbelief when a 52 year old is cast as the son of a 50 year old with the former looking even older than their age. The mind boggles.

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I hate that they’ve been so brutal to that contestant character in ‘Love is for suckers”. Her mental health issues have been used to humiliate her. Just appalling.

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“Reborn Rich” has been predictably bleak so far and I’m not sure why am I watching this. And, the actor playing the brutal grandfather in The King’s Affection is up to no good here too.

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I have been feeling less enchanted with KDramas recently. Looks like my ‘fever’ finally broke!:) I still like some of them so much but am getting much less tolerant of the tiresome tropes. Sigh.

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    I wish there would be some Kdramas commissioned like “Silent”, this sublime and moving JDrama. I rather not see hideous chaebols and their rapacious families (at least not without some serious systemic comeuppance), trucks of doom, ridiculous and contrived plots, tropes that are so predictable that come with a set of almost identical dialogue and implausible characters. I would like to see (but unlikely) an attempt to portray genuine accountability for serious human rights violations by corporations, governments and individuals, powerful and otherwise. The ‘rotten apple” trope is so bankrupt but attractive as it allows for dramas to package themselves as art but it doesn’t require engaging with the ugly truths about media and entertainment corporate ownership/control, and doesn’t ask genuinely tough questions about extreme income disparity in South Korea. And, not everyone has a soulmate. It would have been nice if it were true but it ain’t the case. I know. I am turning into a “get off my lawn” kind of a person. Aigoo.

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      It’s true the dramas/films I am watching now are more slice of life with less obvious PPL. The J dramas seem to be knocking it out the park like they have taken the best of K dramas from back in the day.

      Are you going to watch J drama First love it’s out on 24th and looks absolutely divine from the cinematography alone.

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    I would recommend Forest of Secrets (Stranger on Netflix) if you haven’t watched it yet.

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    How much did the honeymoon phase last? Mine was a long one, about 10 years. I had so much good will toward any kdrama and little by little the tropes kind of worn it off, to a point that I don’t expect them to be charming anymore.
    I don’t known what a “get off my lawn” kind of person is but I suspect that badge has been achieved a long time ago kkk.

    That kdrama obsession with money has bored me so much that I’ve come to detest any plot about company power struggles and bickering rich families. Five minutes into Reborn Rich and I was already bored and annoyed. I still care about the possibility of interesting characters and some fantasy or romance and dramatic twists and turns but they are not easy to find in dramaland these days.

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      Whoa. I’m 8 years in the run and although I can see the tropes coming from a mile away, I still continue to watch them all the while complaining in frustration.

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I’m really disappointed at “Curtain Call”. I thought it might have a better script but so far it has been just an absurd mess. It’s really hard to remain credulous when the story makes so little sense

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    I haven’t watched it, but anyone would have very expectations of the show because it has both KHN and HJW in it. It’s a shame if it is as you said.

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I want to again recommend “Silent” which is available on Viki. A profound & wonderfully acted JDrama. No Korean Drama has come close to it for me this year. It is a thing of sublime beauty.

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    Oooohhh i have it on my radar but haven’t had the chance to watch it yet

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    I have no idea where the story will take us.

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      @kurama: Neither do but I count the days to each episode. Am sad there are only 11 of them (I wanted to say much more but controlled myself as not to give away any spoilers).

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    Based on this feedback I will wait until it’s finished so I can binge watch. I struggle with live watching dramas I really get into and as there is no comments section to share thoughts between sessions I think I would prefer to not be stressed on my own week to week!
    Glad you two have each other and can add comments on a fan wall reply so it’s not going to pop up and be a spoiler for anyone watching at a different pace.

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    I am going to binge it during the holidays. I am so looking forward to start this one.

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      @Blue (mayhem): I envy you the joy of discovering this gem and not having to wait each week for an ep.

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        Ha! I usually would have suffered with you all by watching it live. It so happened that my plate is too full with live dramas. I am struggling to just catch up the current dramas. I had been waiting for this cdrama ‘She and her perfect husband’ for years and finally it got aired but I don’t have the time to click play. I am really counting on my vacation time.

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Forgot to post the pic!

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    I don’t know what show this is but that is funny on so many levels 😁

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    Lol I stopped the episode on Viki US so I could read that diploma/document or whatever it is. There is more to the story on Yoo Hee. It is surprising that Manager Jung and Jae-heon don’t know more of her background. Jae-heon better settle down and get serious.

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Did anyone notice this ‘Havad Law School’ Degree in the last ep of ‘Curtain Call’? Was it a joke spelling given how ‘r’s are pronounced in the Boston accent or just a funny stuff up?

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    I think it’s just a funny stuff made up to use and the name and not use the name at the same time (we have seen Kdramas doing this since forever). I don’t think a lot of Koreans know how r is pronounced in different places in the States, ifaik.

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    Ohhh!
    I did not notice that lol!!
    My brain autocorrected it xD

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    I’ve definitely seen “modified” framed degrees like that, many, and am very sorry I can’t remember the shows. Classic to remove or add one letter and obfuscate with the smaller-print verbiage. Can’t be sued if they technically change the name!

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      Business Proposal had another deliberate misspelling of Harvard. The only time I’ve noticed a university name (MIT, maybe?) spelled correctly on one of those framed diplomas was in You From Another Star – but the rest of the text was nonsense.

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        Oh, great example! He had been to every important school, Of course! I wonder if they play around with and slightly “modify” diplomas/certificates from Korean schools?

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          I am so impressed by the level of detail that you all notice! I am too easily distracted by the obvious things and never see the fun details!🤔

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            😂 I am so distracted by any printed words onscreen that I often completely overlook the subtitles and have to rewind to read them. There were scenes in Glitch I watched 4 or 5 times trying to read t-shirt slogans or posters in the background before realizing I hadn’t taken in a word of the dialogue. Sadly, it happens to me in real life all the time, too, and I’m constantly asking people to repeat themselves because my brain was busy reading a presentation slide or an ad on a bus going by or literally anything. Print > speech for me.

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            @elinor yes! The tshirts, the signs! I’m like a dog who sees a squirrel! 🤦🏼‍♀️

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    Maybe it was just a happy coincidence dropping the ‘r’ in Harvard. ‘Pahk the cah in Hahvad yahd’ sort of thing lol.

    Now I can reveal to Manager Jung that Noh Sang-hyun and I share something in common. Both of us spent our childhood in Boston, MA USA. I grew up there many, many, many ‘Moons’ before NSH. (I really am hoping for a redemption arc for the real Moon-sung’.)

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For my like-minded American Beanie, keep the fascists out of power! May the midterm elections not have catastrophic results for you and the world. Good luck!.

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    Thanks, appreciate the sentiment. I voted! ☑️

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      @bbstl! Well done! I’m on pins and needles.

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        I’m wearing my “I Voted” sticker and crossing, well, every body part that can be crossed. Tomorrow is gonna be a tough wait. Deep breaths.

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    Thank you – these are frightening days for sure. So I’m staying away from the news and just watching dramas.
    And of course I voted BLUE all the way!!!
    Fighting – America!

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      @stpauligurl: I’m worrying along with you and others. I have a masochistic side so can’t shut the news out completely. Fingers crossed.

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    Thank you ❤️. My stomach is in knots.

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So the second part of “Alchemy of Souls” is coming on 11 December and Netflix is advertising it with a gorgeous still of Jung Somin. Is this a bait and switch? I guess so.

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A very recent article on an actor turned shaman and shamanism’s image problem in SK: https://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20221028000653

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    Surely he will have an image problem just because of his former job and the recent drama about a pretend shaman.

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Horrific tragedy in Itaewon. The majority of those killed appear to be young women. Simply heartbreaking.

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    Having a hard time catching up w my dramas tonight and knowing this happened there today. Unthinkable.

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    It’s tragic, very sad.

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    Truly a very sad situation.

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@alathe: https://www.soompi.com/article/1550257wpp/alchemy-of-souls-part-2-confirms-finalized-broadcast-schedule
Are you able to confirm that you’ll be wee-capping the second part as well? If so, yay!

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I seriously side eyed the Park Jaehoon character in “Love is for suckers” thumbing through Nietzsche’s “Thus Spoke Zarathustra” while sunbathing. I noticed this book appearing in one other KD but can’t recall which. Some have described Nietzsche’s work as a harbinger of the Nazis but whether that is entirely accurate is debated as his sister doctored his archives for decades after his death and was a Nazi sympathiser at the very least.

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    Nietzsche comes up a lot in kdramas. I don’t know if it has any significance or not.

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      @midnight: Thanks for confirming my impression. Of course I am not advocating for it not to be read in any shape or form but a superficial display of such a book is problematic as it has been misinterpreted and used to justify the Nazi ideology.

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        Honestly I think this is a simplistic reading of Nietzsche, although like a lot of dead white men he was wealthy and privileged and didn’t realise the extent to which his wealth and privilege was a social construction, preferring instead to think that he was somehow special. This is his biggest flaw I think as a philosopher – his socioeconomic obliviousness.

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          @leetennant: LOL. I didn’t claim to be a Nietzsche scholar so I chose my words carefully. What I wrote certainly isn’t universally accepted about his work but is not entirely refuted either.

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      I was about to say this, the Nietzsche references in kdrama are ubiquitous. I’ve never quite understood why.
      When I reviewed Greasy Melo, I included an entire section on how the drama drew on Nietzsche

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      I have always just kind of taken it as shorthand for “this character is literary and smart, they read philosophy!” in much the same way that characters in Western tv do – I don’t know if that’s an accurate interpretation but that’s how I have thought of it You definitely notice the same names and works coming up often.

      Sometimes there’s a more obvious link eg The Little Mermaid in My Girlfriend is a Gumiho but they generally make a bigger deal than just having a character reading a book in passing in that case.

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        “I have always just kind of taken it as shorthand for “this character is literary and smart, they read philosophy!”

        Exactly me😂

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Someone told me how charming Woo Dohwan is as Jo Eunsup, one of his 2 characters in The King:Eternal Monarch, & that, he stole every scene he was in. Is this true? As I would love to see him in this.

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    He was the best part of the show in his 2 roles (with KKN) for me.

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    I could not finish episode 1 of the drama but I heard he was the best in that drama… I mean, he usually is the best in a drama.

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      @Eazal: I empathise as I don’t think I can get through it too as it has Lee Minho as the lead actor and that is a bridge too far for me. But want to see Woo Dohwan. Maybe I should just look for a compilation of his scenes as a fix?

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    The answer to your question: Yes!

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    I’ve seen many Beans said so, though I did wonder if they were a bit blinded by their love for him! 😂

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      Yes he’s the best, No we’re not blinded.. maybe just a lil bit.. hehe 🙈 I think it was the contrast of the two roles that made it work so well.

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In solidarity with the Iranian women who are risking their lives for their human rights. “The daughter of Minoo Majidi – who was killed while protesting for#MahsaAmini-stands at her mother’s gravesite

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@alathe: Dear Alathe, could we have a hangout with you as a one-off for the Alchemy of Souls Deprivation Syndrome purposes? December is a loooong way off and we miss your reviews. Please?

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I’ve been watching “Manager Kim” & it’s even better on the second go. Also, Junho’s skin tone just seems as off as I thought on the first viewing, a ghostly & ghastly white. Bad make up & lighting?

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    Everyone’s skin tone and the color balance in general seemed off to me. I kept noticing the makeup when I should have been paying attention to something else – it was distracting. Great show, though. Junho screaming in frustration made me laugh every time.

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