Beanie level: The Goblin’s underpants

Love quadrangle? Atta girl Mudeok/Naksu!

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    Completely random statement but I think I read somewhere that 8 is a lucky number have you seen your comments number? In a K drama this would be the equivalent of the pig dream😊

    Hope all is well and you are enjoying the dramas you are watching at the moment.

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      @reply1988: ohhh, no, I hadn’t seen the number and didn’t know the numerological significance! Thanks for telling me. You are a gem for asking after me. I’ve finished my mammoth run of grading but now, sadly have a chest bug which I hope will not hang around for weeks.
      I hope you’ve been well, enjoying life and that work is not stressful.

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        Oh no there are so many things doing the rounds these days it’s not funny. Please take care of yourself.

        Work is great at the moment and I am enjoying life, the improved weather means more walking with friends and lovely long days so all is good.☺️

        It’s good that we are both hanging in the Goblin underwear drawer together but I am sure it won’t be long before you leave me and become a fugitive.😊

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    So after episode 6 of ALCHEMY where are we? Do we have
    1. Wook smitten with Mu-deok
    2. Yul still smitten with Naksu (loved the kdrama trope fall into his arms)
    3. Crown Prince Go Won starting to be smitten with Filthy Mu-deok
    4. Dang-gu suddenly smitten with Cho-yeon of the Jin?
    It is starting to get confusing.

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      @marcusnyc20: But so much fun, right?

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        Indeed it is.
        O/T. I know it is a little late but will Moon Sung-hyun (rl age16) (playing the young Yul in ALCHEMY) step into the shoes of Nam Da-reum in playing the younger version of MLs.
        To me there is a resemblance between Moon Sung-hyun and Nam Da-reum. They could play brothers in a drama. Casting directors take note.

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    It’s what she deserves!

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This list was a revelation to me: https://www.highonfilms.com/the-best-korean-movies/

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    Wow, dark themes abound. I wonder how many are released outside of Korea and how they are experienced by International audiences. The only one I have seen was The way home. I wonder how well these films do domestically as they seem like art house films. The number one film of all time sounds like it’s the equivalent of trying to do a degree course in the two hours or whatever run time.

    Have you seen any of them would you want to?

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      @Reply 1988: Sadly no as I’m constantly frustrated in not being able to find good Korean films on streaming platforms. I saw ‘Broker’ recently as part of a film festival and hope I can find more of them. And, dark themes abound for sure but not all are gory. You would appreciate this: Good that the national traumas can find expression through this venerable art medium.

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        If you use a VPN, Viki has quite a few movies. The only one of these I’ve seen is Il Mare (which I preferred to the US remake, The Lake House). Tbh arty/gritty is not my preferred style so probably most of these would not be for me.

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          @beffels: Thank you! I have to get a VPN for sure. My regional Viki subscription is useless for Korean movies. I like arthouse films but also appreciate more mainstream stuff.

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            I actually meant to say Viu 🙈 but Viki also does have some movies.

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      Thanks for the list! Lots of movies I wasn’t aware of. I’ve watched some over the years – well before I got into kdramas – mostly by Bong Joon Ho and Park Chan Wook, because they get to art cinemas around here. Korean cinema is a totally different beast from kdrama, but my experience is that when you pick a good movie it really stays with you.
      If you are interested in watching korean movies, I guess you can find some of them on mubi, and probably on places like drama cool (that’s where I watched The King and the Clown). There’s also a youtube chanel called korean classic film for older stuff (https://youtube.com/c/KoreanFilm)

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        I agree the films are very different I watched a few on YouTube years ago and couldn’t understand why suicide was such a prominent feature. I don’t remember now what the films were called so can’t go back but they were very interesting reflections on the complexities of life.

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    Pieta deserves better then 34, and how come Binjib(3-Iron) isn’t in the top 10 or even on the list?? 🙁

    Well, who made this list is a Lee Chang Dong fan.
    I can understand tho, I would probably place 3 Kim Ki Duk movies on the top 10 (KKD fan right here). LOL

    Sympathy For Lady Vengeance and On the Beach at Night Alone didn’t even get an honorable mention… damn.

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      Yes, the list is for sure composed by a Lee Chang Dong fan! While Poetry is a good movie, it’d not be my top choice. As @flycolours pointed out, Korean movies are a very different beast from Korean dramas. Don’t expect what you see in a Kdrama in a Kmovie. The art house type is especially not easily accessible for international audience in terms of its content and delivery.

      But Korean movies have made big strides in the past decade (like what Hong Kong movies went through in the 80-90s) to excel and establish its credentials, especially thrillers and politics intrigues. And I like how Bong Joon-ho is able to bring both art house and general audiences on his journey which few directors in the world can do.

      I watched two Korean movies in a row in a long haul flight recently – Escape from Mogadishu and King Maker. Despite winning a lot of Korean movie awards, EFM falls short of my expectation given its core story on a rare North and South Korean collaboration. King Maker on the other hand is so impressive.

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        We fans are like that, we can’t be objective, lol. For me, 3-Iron is the best movie ever, and I’m pretty sure my top ten would be mostly Kim Ki Duk Hong San Soo and Park Chang Wook. And I’m probably wrong according to critics but I liked Burning and Peppermint Candy more than Poetry.

        You’re right about Bong Joon Ho, I believe that’s why he’s been able to get a big international recognition. Everytime there’s the question about why other great movies/directors don’t get the same fame, I think it’s because of that. Other director don’t have that ‘global’ vibe.

        I curious have Escape on my watchlist, I’m curious about that one. I’ll add King Maker to the list, thanks!

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          It totally intrigued me too that 3-iron didn’t even get an honorable mention. A very unique film.

          Hong San Soo on the other hand is not my cup of tea. Having now watched 4 or 5 of his works, I just thought it’s about men not fulfilling their aspiration especially women they fall infatuated LOL – sorry to all his fans. Maybe his fans are mostly men who can identify that vibe and feel. And most critics who adore his works are men too.

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            3-Iron definitely deserves better.

            You think? I don’t know. I love slice of life, just people being people; so I movies like On the Beach or Right Wrong are my cup of tea.
            I don’t think I’m a fan tho, I need to watch more of his movies. I’ve only watched three. But On the Beach is on my top 10.
            I haven’t watched that many korean movies either, and most of the ones I’ve watched are from the same directors so it makes sense my top 10 is just my 10 favorite korean movies 😂
            3 Kim Ki Duk movies, 2 Zhang Lu, 2 Park Chan Wook, 1 Lee Chang Dong, 1 Hong Sang Soo, 1 Heo Jin Ho, 1 Lim Dae Hyun.
            I’m just like the guy from the article lol

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Roe v Wade has been overturned. Horrifyingly regressive moment for the US and the glibal fight for reproductive rights.

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    It’s been a terrible week. Clarence Thomas previews going after Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell next. It’s horrifying.

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      @missh: I agree. Just terrifying and infuriating. These agents of repression masquerading as ‘impartial’ judges’ are the true payoff of American fundamentalism. This movement is a different shade of the Taliban. They are the Amercan Taliban..

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        The only personal liberty we will have left by the time they get done is the right to own a gun. They can regulate the hell out of everything else but that, apparently.

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        Yes, I thought oh thank heavens they’re not the dreaded “activist judges” 😡
        They project onto the other side everything that they actually are. And people believe it 🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

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          @bbstl: Exactly. I used to live and work in NYC as a human rights lawyer and have American friends, family and acquaintances so am deeply, deeply worried. Additionally, now that I am living outside the US, I am even more frightened of what theocratic fascist policies and practice are like and how they are being continuously rolled out across many parts of the US. This will also have global implications as the US is important to this particular dight for reproductive rights. I know I’m depressed and likely most of you kindred spirits are too but we need to resist and continue organising wherever we are in the world. We need to create a better version of democracy where people are not disenfranchised from voting by legal, political and socio-economic factors, want to vote and elect honest, ethical, functional, literate, compassionate and progressive representatives. Our fight has only begun. These fundamentalists want a Gilead with access to some aspects of capitalism. They must be defeated.

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      I remember reading Obama’s book last year and he said that he pleased with RBG to step down so that he could nominate another SC who was younger. I think it looked like Trump was going to win the election and he wanted to get his nominee in before that happened? I dont recall 100% but as the country is being forced back into the 50s and wire hanger abortions I keep thinking about that.

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        @Isa: Me too. That was a catastrophic error of judgment on RBG’s part. She should have neem encouraged – no people should have begged her – to step down notwithstanding judicial sensibilities.

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        Thank you for sharing!

        Interesting article, but sad to see scientists’ works misused like that..

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    Truly horrific!
    The constant reminders of how terrible humans can be are so upsetting..

    I don’t live in the US, but just like many people have lost a right overnight there, so it can happen anywhere else..

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    I don’t know how the world has come to this point. This has implications for women everywhere. I want freedom, rights, and respect as men do. I don’t want privilege, I just want equality and fairness.

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      @mmmmm: Exactly. The global war on women’s right is enduring and unremitting but we must continue organising and resisting. Let’s be depressed for a little while but we need to be angry for the long haul.

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    They did the right thing. The Constitution does not give women the right to abortion. Now that it has been overturned, it is simply up to the states to decide their own abortion laws.

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      @raonah: In legal discourse, there are two competing views about the US Constitution. One, that it is a living document and, the other, a document which is frozen in time but conveniently gets interpreted by the SCOTUS majority to conclude that corporations are “persons” within the meaning of the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. That wasn’t in the Constitution so your assertion doesn’t hold water. And, oh, to leave women’s reproductive rights to states in the US at this juncture is tantamount to condemning countless women, particularly those who are poor, young and vulnerable to a likely future with further poverty, mental health issues, injury and even death. So ‘leaving it to the states’ is catastrophic for those women living in theocratic and repressive states including those who have trigger laws.
      Ban in effect
      Ala.
      Ark.
      Ky.
      Wis.
      Mo.
      La.
      S.D.
      Okla.
      8 states; 6.5 million women of reproductive age
      Likely to be prohibited or restricted
      Ban
      Gestational limit
      Ohio
      Texas
      Ga.
      Tenn.
      Idaho
      Fla.
      Utah
      N.D.
      S.C.
      Miss.
      Wyo.
      W.Va.
      Ariz.
      13 states; 20.1 million women of reproductive age
      Uncertain
      Dependent on new law or change in party control
      Iowa
      Pa.
      Neb.
      Va.
      Mich.
      Mont.
      Ind.
      Kan.
      N.C.
      9 states; 11.0 million women of reproductive age

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      The Constitution is roughly ~230 years old and has been written entirely by men – no female representation on that drafting committee whatsoever. Medical science has evolved much since then, our understanding of women’s bodies, their health and their roles and place in society has evolved since then. Shouldn’t the Constitution keep up with the times?

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        You know what else was decided entirely by men? Roe v. Wade! The overturning of Roe v Wade was done by people including a black person and a woman. So by your “diversity” logic, the overturn of Roe v Wade should be more just than Roe v Wade was.

        Yes, you are totally right! Medical science has improved so much in the past two hundred years and even in the last fifty years! Now, we can no longer claim that a fetus is “just a clump of cells” because now through ultrasounds we can see that it is a tiny human. At just eight weeks, we can even detect the baby’s heartbeat.
        https://www.healthline.com/health/pregnancy/8-week-ultrasound

        From the time a baby is a zygote, it has its own DNA making it a distinct person from its mother.
        https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/002398.htm

        Also, with medical advances, we are now able to save the lives of preemie babies earlier and earlier. Now babies born at just 24 to 25 weeks have a decent chance of surviving outside the womb and yet babies are allowed to be murdered in the womb up until birth in some states.
        https://www.verywellfamily.com/worlds-smallest-preemies-2748663

        Yes, there are many things that have changed since the Constitution was written. However, murder is still wrong and murdering innocent babies is especially reprehensible.

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          @raonah: I wanted to reach out to you and ask you to stop. I didn’t post this as a comment but on my fan wall so please stop responding. Just so you need to think about the links you have found by googling. Just in one instance, a zygote is not a baby by virtue of having its own distinct DNA. By this logic, every time we shed skin which we do constantly as humans, a potential human being with a distinct DNA is lost. This is bananas.
          Please do not respond. Feel free to write your own comment.

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          Since @dncingemma wants to call an end to this conversation, I will not comment further. We clearly won’t agree either.

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    Contraceptives, sex ed, universal health care, affordable housing, childcare are just a few of the things that could be focused on instead of outlawing abortions. But for the most part, the antiabortion crowd are against all that as well. There’s no interest in preventing unwanted pregnancies, or concerns about the care and support the mother and baby will need, no consideration about the responsibilities the father should have. The health-related consequences alone are going to be horrifying. It’s heartbreaking how naive and ignorant people are at best, thinking this is prolife. And terrifying that there are people who know better, but did this anyway for power and control.

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    Gosh I wonder if they also think that the tv from their home countries represents the general population. I think it would be really sad for the Korean men if they feel they have to compete with the fantasy men in order to get a partner but hopefully there are very few women in Korea or elsewhere who expect to live the fantasy life. I do think there are men in different parts of the world who love to take advantage of susceptible women. I also know there are women world wide who target footballers, musicians/singers/actors etc because they want the lifestyle of the rich and famous without earning it through their own skills.

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      @reply1988: it is concerning as fetishizing any human being or groups of them based on fictitious depictions and then travelling long distances to meet these figures of fantasy is mind-boggling to me. I have a friend of Korean descent who routinely reminds me how persistent and pernicious the desexualisation of men of Asian descent has been in the west and how jarring as well as bizarre she finds these women who have bought into this hallyu mythology of sensitive virility wrapped in tall and beguiling packages. She feels both of these attitudes fundamentally fail to engage with the ordinary humanity of Korean men in all of their strengths and shortcomings, and fears that once interest in SK’s cultural imports cools as it inevitably will, these same people will move on having learnt little about genuine engagement with and interest in what makes SK the place that it has become.

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        Yes she makes an interesting point the whole image management of different people groups is fascinating in terms of power dynamics and the long term impact. From the legislation that stole aboriginal children that had white fathers so they could be trained to be married off to white people to eventually make their offspring white to painting women of multiple origins as exotic sexualised beings the damage has been done.

        That is why it concerns me that the male actors are being made to strip for unnecessary shower and outfit changing scenes and the women or school girls have shorts or mini skirts/dresses as part of their wardrobes as standard practice. Objectification is a concern whatever the gender and it seems to be getting worse.

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Audioguide (and some nice visuals including a long haired Kim Woobin’s) to the correct pronunciations of some Kactors’ names by a native Korean speaker:
https://youtu.be/-_O9MxxkTl0

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    This was great but seriously why have really loud music competing with the voice?!

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    Great concept for a video! I’m always doubting wether I’m getting the names’ pronunciation* right, and the visuals really make it a nice watch 😉

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      *Not that I name out k-actors often. I get to write a lot about them online, but irl I have nobody remotely interested in my shiny knowledge about k-ent 🤣

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        @Fly Colours: RL sucks at times, non?😊

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          But I keep on trying 😙 Yesterday convinced a friend to check out Yumi’s Cells. I’m betting on free availability and Ahn Bo Hyun’s power to lure them into dramaland 🙃

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        Such a waste, no? 😂

        I remember arguing with a friend about the pronunciation of Hye as in Park Shin Hye. Now I see that she was seemingly correct😁 not that I’m gonna tell her that!

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    Wow, gotta say the visuals really help my pronunciation 😉

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On a trivial note, has anyone else noticed the strong resemblance of Park Juhyun to Ahn Bohyun and vice versa? They were both born in Busan so I wonder whether there is a gene circulating in their families which I can credit for their resemblance? (of course, I understand how basic genetics works but can’t get over their strong resemblance).

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And, on a happier note, a 40 year old who can dance like this. Find out who this is!:
https://youtu.be/Tya03l9WAjo

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    You just can’t even 🤷🏻‍♀️ but then again the most popular tv personality in the US is whining loudly (made a whole tv special!) about how men’s testosterone is at an all time low partly due to man-bashing women, and advises that men help themselves by tanning their private parts. At least SK has creative names that call this behavior out 🙄

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      …I don’t even wanna ask more about this

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        @mindy: I can’t blame you as it is not a happy or easy read but as it initially deals with the effects of many KDramas valorising a certain kind of (fictional) Korean men, at the very leadt, it is useful fodder for further thought for those of us on this website.

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        Most days I just shake my head until I think it might fall off 🤦🏼‍♀️ (I keep it on by the constant forehead-slapping) 😆

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      @bbstl: it is devastating and appalling even if not surprising as an another form of global backlash against women’s rights.

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    The entire world is going to hell and we have first-row seats to the sh-tshow. However, and maybe I will come off as unsympathetic and harsh for saying this, I truly do not understand how certain people can watch fictional media and think that that’s how real-life people from a certain place will definitely act like. Good fictional characters are always an idealized, glamourized depiction of the real deal. I just don’t get that naïveté. Like, obviously that’s not how the majority of Korean men are like, duh. Where I come from, male protagonists depicted in tv/film are honestly…not great. At all. But I’d still say they’re better than a lot of the real men, who are mostly misogynist trash in a deeply patriarchal society where whatever they say/do is justified simply by virtue of being men. Why are there so many people simply taking everything being shown at face value?

    Sorry for the rant. I probably come off as unduly harsh to many of y’all, but I’m just exhausted by the state of the world. Women’s rights are regressing right before our eyes and I’m honestly afraid of how the world will look in a few years time.

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      @ladynightshade: I hear you and am incredulous too. I had just written you a long response and lo and behold, the AI censor went off for an explicable reason deleting my comment.

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        @dncingemma: Was it the dramabeans censorship again? *Sigh* As much as I like this site, some of the stuff here can be extremely annoying – the random censorship being one of them. To this day I don’t know the exact criteria behind what’s banned and what isn’t, but all I know is that comments of mine that were randomly deleted ranged from simple, innocuous observations to more serious discussions. I just wish I knew the rules behind this.

        Or maybe it’s something else entirely and I went off on a rant for no reason. It’s just a shame I couldn’t read your response because I know it would’ve been insightful as always.

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          @ladynightshade: Yes. I meant ‘inexplicable’ not ‘explicable’. So random and weird. And, it would be good to know. Some aspects of the operation of this site are almost as secretive as a cult’s.
          And, as always (at least to me), you’re on the money. Thank you for empathising!

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    The Taxi Driver was such a great film, I watched it at the same time I watched Youth of May and I was so shook up afterwards.

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This is not directly related to KDrama but such abuses are routinely portrayed in them:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/26/business/south-korea-bullying-gapjil.html?referringSource=articleShare

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    29%, and that’s just the people willing to state they’ve been abused for a poll. Puts an answer to all of our questions about “do Korean bosses really slap employees?”.

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      @bbstl: while I was reading this article, I clicked on one of the links which was a secretly recorded vid of this violent boss twice slapping his young employee with such ferocity that made it horrific to watch. I can only imagine how much it must have physically hurt and, the extent of this trauma. That disgusting person was at least charged and convicted even though I don’t know whether the surviving victim obtained any other remedy.

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        I didn’t see that one. I’ve seen the real-life lineups of employees as the head boss enters, the race to cover him with an umbrella and the dash to push the elevator button for him irl but I always felt the corporal punishment was hidden from the foreigners.

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          @bbstl: And, there is a clip of a senior public servant IIRC who exits the new arrivals area in the Seoul Airport and forcefully pushes his wheelie suitcase away without glancing at whoever’s unfortunate job was to get hold of it. Apparently and justifiably, it provoked a thousand memes and endless mockery for the arrogance and absurdity of such entitled conduct.

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            I loved that, clearly he had done it a hundred times before. He had the flick and the momentum down perfectly along with the arrogance that someone was waiting to catch it (but outside of camera range, of course, where they might distract from HIM).

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am tired and feel petty enough to complain about how poorly this website functions. It routinely doesn’t load & stays that way for some time. I have no such problem elsewhere. What is going on? Grrr

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    So it isn’t just me.

    Do you use adblocker? I wonder if that is the problem… The site did load when I used a browser without adblocker, but then there were SO MANY ADS! I was shocked. I have been using adblocker for so many years I had no idea there are so many ads on db.

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      @midnight: it must be a systemic problem then. I’m a financial supporter so I get the ad-free version as the only benefit (provided the site manages to load!).

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    I complained on the open thread yesterday and after it worked very well. But this morning, I had the same issue with the page that doesn’t load.

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    I tried to like your post and had to wait for 2 minutes hahaha
    Been having the same trouble yesterday and today orz

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    I meant to comment the same yesterday but kept timing out. DB is always slower than any other site I use but yesterday was beyond bad.
    What’s going on, DB staff?

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      For me it has been nearly a week though. It is worse when I try to go to older shows recaps. Like Start Up recaps simply won’t open.

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    I’ve noticed this happens whenever there are some changes to the site or an update of some sort – such as when they added the Shows and Celebs tabs. It should get resolved soon. I noticed an improvement today already.

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    I wonder if it is because the on going dramas are getting so much buzz on the internet and thus, a lot of old beanies+new ones decided to visit the site?

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    It’s not just me then.

    For the last few days, I’ve had struggles loading the site. It routinely doesn’t work and the times it does, it takes so long that it’s not worth it. And it gets worse when I’m trying to click on replies to comments or like posts. It takes forever. I can guarantee you posting this comment will take ages.

    I love this site and the community here, but I will admit stuff like this is frustrating.

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    Yep this week has been a lot slower than usual. The ‘usual’ are slower than other sites though so to be a lot slower is something else 😬 @dbstaff

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https://www.nme.com/en_asia/reviews/tv-reviews/bloody-heart-review-lee-joon-kang-han-na-kbs2-disney-plus-k-drama-3224750

This is a very good overall review of Bloody Heart.

What is Tae’s end game? Does he have any aspirations beyond revenge? Avenging his father, mother (presumably) and surviving as an absolute ruler are solipsistic objectives but have been the stuff of brutal monarchies the world over. I find this series both captivating and horrifying.

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Tae wants to be an absolute ruler. This doesn’t inspire confidence in me that he’ll be any better than vicious nobles so the’re arguably just as bad as each other. Pox on all of their houses.

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I recently came across this article which has given me more insight into this important issue: https://thediplomat.com/2022/05/k-dramas-resurrect-long-buried-memories-in-vietnam/

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    Thank you for sharing this. A very important issue to highlight indeed. It actually reminds me a bit of the conversations we recently had about the white saviourist elements of Descendants of the Sun. Korean dramas are a significant source of soft power, and it’s essentially being used as propaganda to whitewash occupation and war crimes.

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      @ladynightshade: Always a pleasure to chat to you even when the topic is heavy and difficult.
      For sure re your point. To my shame, I hadn’t fully understood the extent of the American aid to SK which was tied to its support for the war against Vietnam. The revisionism of this period in history by the Sk’n Government is shameful to say the least.

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        @dncingemma: Well, that’s the caveat of being a regional US ally. You get the economic benefits and exponential GDP growth, but you also have to support and participate in American imperialist brutality. And this wasn’t only in Vietnam – South Korea also actively participated in the Iraq War, which we now know was based on complete lies and took the lives of over a million Iraqis. I’m not sure if the South Korean military was involved in any other American-centric conflicts in the region, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they were.

        All this to say, quite the topic to tackle in a blog about tv shows, isn’t it?

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Not KDrama/film related but I found this really interesting and moving: Stalin took their grandparents’ home away. Now Korean Ukrainians are standing up against Putin

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-12/korean-ukrainians-refuse-to-be-russian-prisoners-again/100974268

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    Fascinating. Now I want to know so much more about this, like how did they get to Russia in the first place (pre-1930s)? Thanks for this!

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      @bbstl: I’ve been thinking about you and your family. I hope they are safe amidst the horror.
      I would like to know more too. I’m wondering whether they were deported by Stalin from
      Manchuria where many Koreans were living in exile from the Japanese controlled Korea and then were subjected to Stalin’s ethnic cleansing which forced them to resettle in Kazakstan.
      Please let me know if you come across any articles, books, etc on this, and I will do the same. Take care.

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        Thank you but I’m afraid you’ve confused me with another Beanie. I’m as safe as can be in the middle of the US and know every day how lucky I am. Who could it be, is it @redfox? She is in Estonia and her significant other was going to Ukraine to help. I’ve been thinking about them often and wonder if he is still there.
        @dncingemma thanks for all the historically and culturally interesting posts you make. If I learn more about Koreans in Soviet Russia, I will let you know.

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          Oh. I apologise! /red face/. Despite my stuff-up, I do like your comments so am not entirely clueless!
          Thank you for your lovely comment. And, please do.

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          hi! I havent been online, since I am very busy with my koren homework some weeks I got 84 pages to do. seriously my teacher wants me dead I think

          Stefan is back since it is too dangerous to tryand transport people, they were in Poland for a while transporting the pets. but now his van is confiscated – it is a very complicated situation with animals, supposedly some had not been through quarantine, it is a mess, but most hotels kick the dogs out before their owners. then they have to rely on volunteers to find a quarantine home, which can´t be a shelter. and in the destination country, they have to quarantine for a week again. what a fckin mess!!! I mean, we are european union, why are things so complicated with the pets.

          so I got distracted but yeah. also the koreans, there were lots of koreans in all the occupied territories during soviet time, the first private restaurant in tallinn was actually korean. and there are still many in Estonia, but I dont know about Latvia & Lithuania. I did see a lot of korean restaurants in Vilnius?

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            Hi redfox, good to hear from you. Your Korean teacher: 🤯 whaaaaat?84 pages?
            That’s very interesting about the animals out of Ukraine, I always feel so sorry when I see the people fleeing who cared enough to not leave their pets behind. It sounds like a real mess.

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            yeah I think because Ukraine is not in European Union, then even though pets are also war refugees, it is not as easy to cross borders for them. the person can pass, the dog stays in the other country! they should do something about it because it delays peoples´ movement.
            and they are so traumatized. scratching everything, always trying to escape.
            now the current way to help is make a lot of camouflage nets. cant be a synthetic one. natural fibers, but light. we made a lot of green and brown, now they are switching to more greys, dust color.

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I have been swamped by work & MIA here so wanted to say hi to my precious Beanies. I hope you are all ok, dealing somehow with a world in turmoil and have someone/many to comfort you when you need it❤

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It appears that some of the comments including mine in response to an offensive and disgusting commenter yesterday have been removed by the website. This ‘both sideism’ is ignorant and offensive. I am just appalled and angry at those who are running this website. Shame on you. I am a premium supporter but I will not renew my support when the time comes to renew. I can say much more but I won’t.

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      @Lord Cobol – Thanks. No need to be patronising to tell me to ‘relax’.

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    Yes, I agree with @DancingEmma and am biting back much I’d like to say. Deleting the ignorant comments of a trollbully seems more like a way to protect and support him than to protect and support DB but maybe I’m wrong. I guess this is what the high road feels like.

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      It’s particularly galling considering he is back talking about popcorn today.

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        @miss h@: Indeed. That commenter has faced no serious consequences and must be quite happy that the significant portion of critical comments have been deleted. This is an example of impunity.

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        Join me in pointing that out to @db-staff by sending them an email.

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      @bbstl: Thank you. And, no, you’re not wrong at all. That individual’s disgusting comments deserved to be deleted. They also selectively deleted comments that took on and challenged those odious comments. That kind of false and dangerous equivalency is reprehensible.

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        It’s possible that the system is set up so that if a comment is deleted, everything under that comment is also deleted. Missing Mary who would’ve gladly clarified how it works.

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          If the main comment is deleted, the response comments will be deleted, too. It happened to me once or twice when I responded to some … comments.

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          @ndlessjoie & @mmmmm: Thank you to both of you lovelies for trying to shed light on this. When I went back to look at the thread, some of the other responses to the original awful comment were not deleted. It was only one thread so it is puzzling why those other comments that responded to that original awful comment but didn’t challenge it as strongly were not also deleted if the entire thread should have been removed. It seems as though they deleted the original comment as well as those by 5 or 6 of us. Anyway, it just has left a bad taste in my mouth.

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Despite not knowing each other in RL, I love interacting with & ‘knowing’ some of you precious Beanies. You make me laugh, think & I learn from you. You all bring me joy & comfort so thank you. Tk.

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