Beanie level: Noble idiot

Dinner Mate: soooo cute and romantic and mature, our OTP! My favorite role from Hand Towel oppa in a while! Meanwhile, the parallel show of How to Get Rid of Your Psycho Exes …🙄

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Finally got all the brouhaha about Dinner Mate ep 8. All I can say is, OMG!!! [more thoughts in the comment in case you want to avoid spoilers] (Also why is the Korean rating for this show so low???)

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    WOW so Jae-hyuk is a legit psycho. I’m so glad the show did not try to romanticize any of his obsessive antics that are usually romanticized.
    I LOVE how this show is directed. It feels so confident, assured, the pacing is great. All these strengths are amplified when this cute romcom turned into a thriller. I was biting my nails whenever Jae-hyuk was on screen! Lee Ji Hoon is doing great here – we can feel the intensity (of his delusion)! He is dangerous, and we can feel it, besides, well, literally seeing him doing dangerous things.
    I wish this was revealed a bit earlier, since quite a few Beanies dropped the show due to the annoying exes. I didn’t mind them before and didn’t care for them, but now that Jae-hyuk is set up as a thriller-type antagonist, I’m suddenly super invested! This feels like the alternate adult version of Cheese in the Trap where Seol (Do-hee) never managed to humanize Jeong (Jae-hyuk), and he just became more obsessive, more manipulative, and ultimately a danger to himself and others.
    The weak link then, is No-eul. I *think* her character is supposedly to illustrate the contrast between Hae-kyung then and now, how much better of a fit Do-hee is for him, and his own emotional growth. I just wish her character was either more interesting, or better acted.
    Last but not least, the music direction for this show is THE BOMB. It’s such great music, fits the scenes it’s in, and the beat matches the emotional rhythm of the characters. Love, love, love.

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      Agreed that the music is great and Lee Ji-hoon is a doing a great job as this psychopath. I’m really curious if Jae-hyuk was always this way or if something happened to me (something to do with psychomimetic drugs?). The mains have great chemistry as well! Do-hee is an amazing weirdo and I know now that I will watch literally anything that has Seo Ji-hye (because she is so good in this show).

      Agreed, No-eul is poorly acted and also a really bland, contemptible character.

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    Korean audiences are weird. They didn’t like A Piece of Your Mind and now they don’t like this show. It’s so sad because I like this show a lot! It’s fun and breezy (for the most part), Seo Ji-hye is a queen, and the main characters have great chemistry.

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      I thought beanies didn’t like A piece of your mind either ? 😀 regardless, I thought this was a very easy-to-like show, nothing too risky or complicated, so was surprised at the low ratings. I know ratings don’t speak to quality, but would have assumed that a romcom/thriller like this would be easy watching for most people.

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        I loved A Piece of Your Mind! I’m also surprised by the low ratings on this one.

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        A piece of your mind received a lot of love from beanies, both in the comments and in the fan wall.

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If you ignore all the cute chance encounters they had, Dinner Mate’s OTP relationship is so realistic, in the best way. They’re both adults who are serial long-term daters, who have been deeply hurt, so they made up some no-string-attached relationship to date-but-not-date. Then, because it’s a drama and we deserve magic, we have all this additional coincidences that make the relationship feel like destiny. I love it!

Second leads’ stories are still going nowhere good. I can see the writer wanting us to sympathize with them, but I just can’t.

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    Their chemistry is pleasant and mature. I like how they actually *talk* with each other, and about their own thoughts and feelings. They didn’t even have to talk about the other boring stuff like their jobs, or their family drama (though that would come soon, I’m sure!) And the development of their attraction also feels very organic and adult-like: from a puzzling passerby situation to an implicit acknowledge of each other’s charm and attractiveness, to explicit acknowledgment that they enjoy each other’s company and want to meet more.

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      So true, loved how deep their talks are! It’s lovely that both are consoled and guided by these conversations. And omg, that ending, I can’t wait for the next episode! (Keep saying this since the first ep, hahaha.)

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        This series is so binge-worthy. If it were already complete, I’d have panda eyes by now. Just strap me to my chair, surround me with snacks and I’ll see you in three days.

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Once in a long while, we\’re blessed with this kind of OTP where the actor & actress have a natural comfort between them offscreen that translates well onscreen, AND their characters have chemistry in the story. Sometimes I wonder what if Han Shuo had met the original Third Princess, who by all accounts seems to have been a misunderstood character (i.e. she wasn\’t evil or bratty like people said). Or, how his romance would have played out in the original script with Chuchu. But all of that is moot because like Han Shuo, I would not choose anyone but Qian Qian for him.
They just make sense together 😀

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    @13infamyss I reposted LOL Just needed everyone to see this cutie OTP!!

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      OMO!!! Thank you for reposting Doku! 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗 I’m saving that picture now! Such a happy beautiful pic 😍😍😍😍

      And yes I couldn’t agree more. There won’t be what ifs now because Han Shuo went off her script the moment he fell for Qianqian. I wouldn’t have it other way either. He came to life, made decisions of his own. Xiaoqian was his creator, but he had freedom to either choose this or that. I really enjoyed Han Shuo’s character growth. He consistently changed for the better. He chose to be a better version of himself.

      Unfortunate that Chuchu went off the trails when she came to life. I agree with Xiaoqian in the last episode, when life wasn’t fair to her, she sought revenge and revenge and hatred ate her up. I’m glad Cherry was redeemed. I really didn’t like him and I didn’t want him to be redeemed at first. And then I thought about it, he was written to serve ChuChu and did everything he could to overthrow Qianqian because he was written that way. But he came around and realized who he was better off serving as a master. He too had the freedom to either blindly serve ChuChu or see for himself the change in ChuChu that was going wrong

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    Zhao Lu Si has lost A LOT of weight 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱

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      Yet there was a dialogue where she was called fat in this show. Lol what? What does even constitute fat? Amd she’s the cutest here, everyone seems to be crushing on Ryan Ding while I keep appreciating her beauty and cuteness.

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A few reasons why The romance of tiger & rose is my favorite romcom this year, and probably one of my most favorites ever.

A great comedy of errors. Characters operate from very, very wrong interpretation of others\’ actions. Han Shuo saw Qian Qian saving him and concluded that she loved him lol (she needed him alive to survive). ChuChu saw QQ bet on her as the winner of the exam, only for QQ to win the exam herself, and thought QQ was belittling her (QQ threw the exam, but someone interfered). The list goes on! All these hilariously wrong interpretations are consistent with the characters\’ internal belief and personality, which makes it completely logical from their point of view, and that much funnier from our point of view. 

 

Characters are consistent, fleshed out, have motivations and goals beyond their relationships with each other. Even the wet-blanket SML has his own development arc. My only gripe was Han Shuo\’s past wasn\’t shown to us. His character was defined by his heart sickness (e.g. his anger, his motivation for getting married into Huayuan), but that of course got resolved early on. I wish we had more, but what we do know about him is still pretty great (a scheming lovesick fool). 

 

The OTP. Check out @13infamyss \’s amazing OTP gifs and you\’ll see what I mean 😀 They\’re great individually, and even better together. They struck gold with an actress who has natural charm and perfect comedic timing, and an actor who is a face genius with charisma and (growing) acting chops. 

 

The side characters. They are comedy fodders, audience-reaction-stand-ins, and loveable characters themselves – so loyal, and so dumb lol.

 

The meta-ness and self-awareness. As a fanfic writer in my teenage years, and a lifelong critical viewer of dramas, I love all the jokes at the expense of main character- who\’s a drama writer, and the tongue-in-cheek use and/or parody of popular drama tropes. Example: a character suddenly appears; Qianqian\’s \”writer council\” commented \”where did this character come from??\”, and she admitted \”I wrote him to move the plot along\”. 

Maybe none of the above is true and this drama has magic dust that made me think it\’s the best thing since sliced bread. This is my absolute crack drama of the year!

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    Oh my doku!!!! 😭😭😭😭😭 that is such a pretty, happy picture of Ryan and Lu Si! 😭😭😭😭😭 My heart hurts. They’re so beautiful.

    And I agree to all what you have pointed out!

    I am so sad I have no more new Tiger and Rose episode to watch! 😭😭😭 I spent the entire day today giffing them OTP cuz I miss them so much. 😭😭😭

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    Ohhhhh what happened to the happy OTP pic? 😭 Did you edit your post? The pic goes away when you edit your post.

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      Ughhh yeah I didn’t realize that’s what happened 🙁

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      Do you just use html tag for images if you want to insert it in between text for a post? I can try that to put the image back in!

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        I haven’t been active on DB and things might have changed but the last time I post on fanwall, the edit button didn’t work well.

        I am afraid you would need to repost if you want to include the picture.

        In those days when I post anything longer than a paragraph and especially with pictures, gifs and vid, I would use tryit editor. That way, I can see the final result before posting on the fanwall.

        Yes, you need to use html for pictures, gifs. I think DB has the function for gifs but it’s more limited and you can’t insert them randomly in your text.

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        No, you can’t add any picture back in even with html once you edited a post. That’s why if I see a mistake on my post, I delete then repost.

        You can however just post the picture in your comments! Like i did in my reply to you. Use HTML tag, the “img src” code

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    All this! I had to start another cdrama because I can’t stand waiting the next episodes!

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    spoilers pictured showed them coming to modern time..as in the script writer and the actor..

    is modern setting back yet?

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      No! I’m watching on Tencent but not paying yet. Maybe I just should Subscribe, heh?

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Introducing face genius, Ding Yuxi. It’s gonna feel so empty when TROTAR ends!

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Dinner Mate has been a very relaxing and enjoyable watch. The stakes are low, there\’s no real plot, but the characters are so engaging, alone and together. The exes are extremely annoying, but they don\’t bother me much because so far they weren\’t used to create misunderstandings, and our leads can\’t even bother with them. They exist as trauma to be overcome, and I\’m ok with that. I\’m sure in real life there are asshole exes like this. Hopefully the journey we will get to see is our main leads heal, find ways to shut their exes up, and get together. I\’m ok with this pseudo plot!

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    Right now I’m just enjoying how they manage to keep ‘missing’ each other in the way that they find out their real identity. It will be interesting when that comes about.
    And it will be due to their mutual friend. hah… love this show!

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      I’m enjoying that too, although I don’t think it can go further than next week, and it will be really fun when they find out!
      I love the chemistry between the OTP and their bond.
      I need to see more of them together.

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    Love this scene! And how she just smacked her lips on his 😹 those poisonous lips 😋

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    if it were me, I maybe probably most definitely kiss those lips too to ~prove a point~

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beanies, help! How do I embed tweets or tumblr posts on the fanwall?? Not an html expert >.<

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[continued from previous post] Her face! His smirk! Why are they so cute?? cr: belsmultifandommess tumblr



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    Smirky Ryan Young Master Han!
    Smexy Ryan Young Master Han!
    Sneaky Ryan Young Master Han!
    Smoothie Ryan Young Master Han!
    Swoony Ryan Young Master Han!

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      (whaaaaaaaaat is going on ? haha x) , at this rate with Beanies post I might start it right after finishing MingLan ^^’)

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        Please do! Tonally it’s very different from ML but the storytelling is just as solid, and the OTP is amazing! I mean, we could pretend this is an alternative Ming Lan universe where Gu Ting Ye while smart constantly fails at his scheme and Ming Lan is a much less reserved, still cunning, and extremely hilarious lady.

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          I’m too easily convinced, I’ll start it in June for sure x)

          I’m laughing so much with ML even if it’s not a drama about blatant humor,
          so
          “an alternative Ming Lan universe where Gu Ting Ye while smart constantly fails at his scheme and Ming Lan is a much less reserved, still cunning, and extremely hilarious lady.”
          this will give me laughs hurting my cheeks hahahahaha x)

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        Ryan happened, Kudo. Ryan happened.

        😳😰😳😳😳

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Drama challenge day 27: favorite drama cliche: food/drinks kiss! (e.g. the iconic Coffee Foam Kiss in Secret Garden). Here’s a new one! #romanceoftigerandrose #wydHanShuo cr: belsmultifandomess tumblr





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This was a subtle but hilarious physical joke in Tiger & Rose that I missed the first time I watched. This is a prime example of the smart gut-busting comedy that this show does so well.
 
He poisoned his cup, thinking they would feed each other wine from the cup in their own hand (his hometown’s custom), which means he thought he would feed her his cup. But she was used to doing the cross-cup way, and thus was going to drink from her own cup. That means, HE would have to drink the poisoned cup.
Realizing his fuck-up, he faked a cough, and switched the cups!
She, meanwhile, thought his awkward weird behavior was because she didn’t follow his custom, and switched to HIS way. Again, he was almost forced to drink his own poison.
Mind you, this whole time, she WANTED to be poisoned LOL
 
And that, everyone, is how we have two idiots who are meant to be together.

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    This show is so much fun. I missed this too. Also I’m kinda liking how the city gives women an upper hand they are blatantly telling how terrible women were treated back then but it hits more when it’s reversed with men.

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      I love love love the world she created! In her world too, it’s men who have to cover up! In her world, it’s men who are courtesans and have to entertain women. In her world, it’s women who educated and leading the army and basically the world! I love it! But how she’s not a perfect scriptwriter either and how she’s slowly seeing the flaws in her writing. That she had to think of “logic” because now that she’s living in it, some of her plot doesn’t make sense or draggy! lmao

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    Typo! He poisoned his cup first, then got stuck in the switcharoo!

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    How far is everyone into this drama? @dokutokunaneko @wapz @13infamyss

    I’m just asking because I’ve checked on YouTube & Tencent’s website and not many episodes have even been released but y’all already seem REALLY into the drama as if it’s already been airing for a while now with many, many episodes out 😅😅😅😅

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    I noticed this! He thought they would “feed” each other, then when she did the arm entwining thing where you drink from your own cup, he switched them! Then she saw her mistake and tried feeding him where he did the opposite thing again! Then he just said “to hell with this!” and got rid of the poison altogether and was going to stab her neck with the chopstick. 😆 She fell asleep because the residual poison was still in the cup when she mixed the two and she drank both of them! Also, when his servant described the poison as colorless, Odorless, and completely dissolvable I’m water, both my daughter and I shouted IOCAINE POWDER!!!!” 😂

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      I think she just got drunk lol and that’s so cute about you and your daughter!! I wish my mom and I liked the same things haha

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        No, I don’t think so. Her servant even even said the next morning that she can usually hold her liquor so it didn’t make sense she would be drunk on one shot split into two cups.

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          And my daughter dies like the occasional cdrama.

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          The one who can hold her liquor is Chen Qian Qian, the one who can’t (and has no martial arts) is the writer, Chen Xiao Qian 😀 I think despite being sucked into the script world, she only inherited the looks, and none of the physical qualities of her “host”.

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            Ah, ok. That makes sense then. I’m on episode 4 now.

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I mean, they’re not wrong (and look at his smirk!). Otoh, one is a kitty puppy and the other one is a sunshine rabbit. Also well-matched. #romanceoftigerandrose (img credit @dangermousie tumblr)




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    and look at his smile when they said they’re well matched! this guy is so in love

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this fool 🥰 #romanceoftigerandrose

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    Ryan is the funniest when he’s jealous!

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      his petty jealousy and his confidence that the reason for her behaviors is “she loves me” every single time are a hoot of a combo!

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        hihihihihihihi. that heart being drawn on the wood table…. epppppppssss.. and how he always finds a reason to believe she loves him. auuugh

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    I LOOOOOOOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!

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    I ❤️❤️❤️ this OTP!! And how strong is our ML to casually carry our FL like she weighs nothing 😆😆

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New crack drama alert: The Romance of Tiger and Rose. (+ some side philosophizing on why \”comedy\” doesn\’t mean \”shallow\”)

I just love, love everything about this drama. It makes me giddy and invested – the kind of feelings you know you only have when you find a crack drama. It\’s romcom that\’s heavy on both the rom and the com. The romance here is oh so convincing, both from the writing perspective and from the chemistry between two leads. They had TWO meet-cutes, they bicker, they try to kill each other (no, for real), they tolerate each other, come to an understanding, then go through many trials and tribulations together, and fall in love.

The progression of their relationship is not just logical, it\’s THRILLING and SO.DAMN.CUTE. Both the leads are smart people on their own, their only blind spot is each other (of course!). Their own stupidity when it comes to their relationship could have been frustrating with another execution, but here all it does is give us fuzzy heart-fluttering moments and howling laugh. I will never get tired of Han Shuo (ML) thinking Qianqian (FL) was madly in love with him only to be ignored the very next second. And I will always squeal whenever he tells her off-handedly that he loves her, only for her to be like, \”what now?\” LOL

The comedy here is also golden. I tried to find a gif or a screenshot to show you all, but it\’s so hard because the comedy is so *situational*. What that means is the jokes build on the knowledge you have from watching a previous scene, episode, etc. That\’s smart comedy. There\’s also cheap comedy – tongue in cheek poking fun at romcom tropes (that they also fully uitlize), quips, puns, slapstick, etc. I\’m pretty sure I had laughed every single episode for 12 eps so far – and as a big loyal fan of comedy TV (of all kinds, from Western to Asian styles), I know how hard it is to sustain laugh as plots develop, with some dose of drama thrown in.

Speaking of plot, there is one, and it\’s good! Often with \”silly idol romcom\”, the plot is on life support, which is usually the rom part. Here, there is an actual plot, and there are a few key high stakes that we are invested in, because we already care about our lovely characters. All of them are working towards their goals (most of them life and death!), in multiple steps, and the steps are met as we move through episodes. Nothing is stretched out for too long, no misunderstanding dragged on for dramatic purposes. Things that make sense to get resolved, do. Will I watch a drama with no plot just to see the romance? Yes (e.g. Her Private Life…) But when there is a plot, it makes it that much more exciting! How will our smart characters get out of their predicaments? How will they attain their goals, while still being together, if their goals and being together could conflict?

In any case, as you can see, I love romcoms, and I love them even more when they are smart, well executed, and have that magical \”it\” factor created by a synergy of actors, directing, and script. Though, let\’s be clear, this is on the lower budget side, and it is an idol drama. It doesn\’t try to be any grand historical drama, nor does it slack off and forget that a story, no matter how cheap, needs sense (we all been there, haven\’t we?) I just love it when a drama makes clear promises, and delivers on them, with fireworks. I have a lot of chip on my shoulders on how romcoms, and just comedies in general, tend to be looked down upon because it\’s \”simple\” or \”silly\”. \”Simple\” is not \”simplistic\”, and \”silly\” is not stupid. A well-done story is a well-done story, and that\’s that.

And that is what Romance of Tiger and Rose is – a well-done story 🙂

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    Everything you said. I don’t remember the last time I have laughed so hard watching every episode of a drama. One of my favourite things is the quips and deadpan expressions from both leads’ main servants. Comedy gold.

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    I completely agree, I caught up with the episodes today and I’m hooked! I can’t wait until qian qian realises her own feelings for Han shao as she tries to make the second princess fall for him.

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    Yes to everything you said about the show and about rom-coms in general. After 5 episodes, I’m firmly on the Romance of Tiger and Rose train too, thanks to Dorotka’s review last Saturday.

    I also love the meta elements of the screenwriter trying to navigate her own story. Chen Qian Qian’s interactions with her council of three storytellers are a hoot too.

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      ugh don’t know why my last post was flagged with an “inappropriate word”…anyway, I was saying it’s hilarious how the council complained why she had to over-complicate her story and her admitting she had to add an extra character because she wrote herself into a corner and had to move the plot along haha

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    I’m loving this drama too – like you said, the comedy here is golden. In each and every episode, there is something funny and humorous that I can’t help but laugh, which is kind of amazing (In the current world we live in, to be able to laugh is a blessing) and the OTP is just too precious 💕💕💕

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I\’m so confused re:CLOY ep 9-10: if it was that simple to get her back, why wasn\’t it the first method he tried???

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    He didn’t have the power before to be moved to the border but once the higher ups knew who his dad was, they were willing to do whatever he wanted. I guess he just didn’t want to tell them who his dad was before.

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      Also, the deserter may have been real (?) triggering a real emergency and meaning more troops on duty along the border (?)

      Then again, a fake deserter announcement would have been a clever first step in the plot.

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        The deserter was real as was the emergency swap. JH was clever to take advantage of it.

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    They found SeRi the last day of their turn in the DMZ, they had to come back and change with another company, that’s why they tried other things, because they were not supposed to go back to the DMZ in three months. But things changed with the deserter as and the coronel knowing the connections of Cap. Ri.

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This drama is not your typical “saeguk”; it’s more like a family drama where the family is royal. There’s humor, tension, drama, everything!

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The many faces of the Imperial Grandson. He’s sly, vulnerable, humorous, cunning, caring, ambitious. Zhu Yawen in “Ming Dynasty” is a revelation!

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How to ask a girl out while she’s trying to kill you #MingDynasty, best cdrama of 2020 I called it!

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    What drama is this?

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      Ming Dynasty, currently with ok sub on YouTube up until ep 8 (later eps have automated subs that they’re slowly trying to correct). If youre in Asia use dimsum.my which is a legal streaming service. If you know how to do bootleg soft subs subscene has dimsum’s sub (you’ll have to download the raw eps).

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Folks, I don\’t think Kyung killed DanOh. When he left and Haru came in, the oxygen mask was back on.

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