Beanie level: The Goblin’s underpants

I think I stopped at the 2nd or 3rd episode of Itaewon Class so I didn’t get to meet Kim Da Mi (?) but from my fast scrolling through the wall, (which was clearly not fast enough 😝) I gathered (probably inaccurately) that people weren’t exactly happy with her character and that she was manipulative? Not sure but anyway, the little bits I unintentionally retained has somewhat morphed her character into this cold, non-smiling, emotionless and manipulative person or something of the like. For the first time today, I watched a clip of IC recommended on YT and I was shocked to see the actress wasn’t stiff and the character emoted – a lot! It wasn’t somewhat disorienting because I’d imagined her in a very different way. I guess all I saw were Beanies’ rantings and only took the bad or mean aspects of their descriptions and made the character into that. Lol

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    I really liked her character. She was strong and independent. Not my all time fav but I will always remember her.

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    I think a lot of people had trouble reconciling the fact that a female lead was explicitly a sociopath and that meant that yes, she was manipulative, when that was literally that was the point. Sociopaths are manipative. Lots of people seemed too ready to write her off as “bad” when it was literally her character description to act selfishly. I personally loved her and thought she was a great character and female lead.

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      And her acting was top notch.

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      That’s something I’ve noticed. People complain about the ‘candy’ character often and demand a different character but the different character they want seems like she should fit into a mould they’ve created. I personally appreciate ‘different’ female characters. I might not like what they do, agree with their moral compass or even like the characters themselves but I appreciate how different they are from the typical candy or crazy possessive ex that dramaland gives. Why? Because people like that exist in real life. People aren’t one dimensional and can encompass good and bad at the same time. I love complexities in characters. Female or male but male characters often get to explore that more often.

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        Exactly this. Yes, the candy is frustrating, but you can’t complain about that and then also dislike the other options you’re given. Women are complex and allowed to be imperfect beyond just being poor. I love the character here because she was explicitly something that was not really able to ever be “good” but who instead had to learn to adapt and had to learn to be empathetic since she literally did not have the capability to be these things naturally. So many people were like “She’s not doing X for the right reasons” or “How do we know she’s really changed/learned” when that was the point. If a character is a sociopath you don’t know. And that’s OK because she’s still interesting and has a whole character arc which is related to those very ideas.

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    I wish I was here back then to back up my girl! I LOVED Kim Da Mi. She is he epitome of a bold responsible young girl who had trouble empathizing. And the actress was so good at being Da Mi. I would’ve dropped the show if it was not for her.

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    I didn’t dislike her character as much as I didnt like how they used her. 🤷‍♀️
    But I also dropped IC and never quite get the hype past the first couple eps.

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Oh My Baby. I feel her desperation to have a child and biology is not on her side. Where medicine can help, the government is a hinderance!
One thing I keep wondering about is why no one is bringing up adoption. It’s essentially the same thing. Since getting a sperm donor/IVF is illegal as an unmarried woman, it’s not much difficult than adopting as an unmarried woman. Either way, she’s willing to be a single parent and since she’s subfertile, I’m surprised ( not really TBH) she hasn’t thought about adoption as an option. I know it’s most likely due to the culture. From what I’ve seen, SK does place a huge emphasis on blood/biological relations to the point that it can be harmful. My culture is similar. Adoption makes sense to me. You don’t even have to get pregnant. At the end of the day, does it matter how the child came to be? They’re yours!
I’m at the stage in my life (early 20’s) where I’m unsure of what I want. I’d always wanted to have a kid. I never had that ‘typical’ marriage or walking down the aisle dream that apparently a lot of girls had (still yet to meet said girls). It was just always about me working, coming back home to my teenage kid and having a good relationship with him/her. Subconsciously, no husband and I never thought of being pregnant. As soon as I knew what adoption was, it made so much sense. I felt this way till my teens.
But with understanding myself, I’m realizing that I just wanted a kid cause I thought it was cute to be a young mum with her teenaged kid cause my mum and I fought a lot. But now, when I think of having a kid, all I feel is immense responsibility and being shackled. I know it probably comes with my age and life experience but that’s how I currently feel. It’s so tough being responsible for myself that I don’t want to be responsible for anyone else. I think babies are cute but after 2 seconds, I want to someone to take them away. Kids don’t like me. I’ve never been good with them.
I just want the rosy parts of being a parent which is impossible. Then I realized the role I always wanted to take on was not that of a parent, but an aunt. A cool aunt! I get to love them and my brothers do the raising.
Still, I don’t know what the future holds but I think if I go on to have children, it’d be in my 40’s. And while I’m not sure whether or not I’ll have kids, I’m sure I won’t be getting pregnant. Adoption is the perfect option for me. It’s why I never got bothered by the thought of biological clock in terms of fertility. I wonder if I’m the only one who feels this way.

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    I don’t know if I’d ever want to be a parent but if I do I think I will definitely try adoption. I wouldn’t want to willingly bring yet another child into this crappy world and there are so many children out there without homes.

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      This has always been a big reason on why, in the event I do have a kid, I’d adopt. There are way too many children in the system and not a lot of them get adopted or go to good foster homes. I’d rather adopt an already born child than birth one myself. Especially teenagers in the system.

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    With Hari, I’m sad they didn’t explore adoption. But I have a feeling it’s more than about having a kid. I feel like she wants the whole experience of being a mom, pregnancy included. But that’s the only justification I have. The hope I have is that she believes finding a forever partner is equally as miraculous as getting pregnant. Maybe the idea of adoption may come out later?

    As for me, I’ve always thought about adoption. I feel like the only thing that would hold me back is how expensive and emotionally burdensome the process can be for both me and any potential child. In America, newborn adoptions can cost up to 50K domestically and internationally. Foster adoption would cost less but the main goal fostering is to reunite kids back with their biological parents, so if they were unable to reunite with their parents and are now up for adoption, I would need to brace myself for the emotional and psychological damage and stress the kid I adopt may have. I’m not sure if I’m at a place where I can do that alone (since I’m unmarried) but if I were to get married, I would need the consent of my spouse to be able to take on that burden as well. As you can tell, I thought long and hard about this (lol) but it’s still a work in progress for me.

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    You are not the only one. I am in my late twenties and I do not think I will ever have kids, because I still struggle to care for myself properly, let alone someone else. Also, pregnancy scares me. I once told a mother that I thought it was terrifying to carry another human being in your body for nine months, and she looked at me as if I was a monster. I hail from a day care worker’s nest, so I can handle kids, and I am the cool fairy godmother to my niece and nephew, but I am glad the moment I can return the troublemakers to my sister. My aunt is adopted, and that was explained to us pretty early without any embellishments. She is your aunt. Period. Just like that. However, it is a difficult and expensive process.

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      Pregnancy didn’t use to scare me. I just couldn’t imagine myself pregnant. In all the make-up scenarios I thought of as a kid, I just had a kid. I was never pregnant.
      Then, I got to know more about pregnancy and how the women in my family change during pregnancy. But what really scares me is giving birth. I don’t want to. I’ve had the opportunity to witness a vaginal child birth and it was… yeah, I’m not doing it. I was with 3 other students (female) when the woman gave birth. I was the only one disgusted and I voiced out my disgust and no one appreciated it. I always say, childbirth is a miracle – a very primal one.

      I’m somewhat envious of you. I’m shit with kids. I like babies cause they’re very cute but there’s not much I can do with them. I also get bored of them very easily and can’t stand actually taking care of one. I’m not good with kids. I don’t have the patience for them. I don’t know how to interact with them and I don’t want them to feel irrelevant or like they’re disturbances but I can’t help but feel very tired when I interact with them. They sense I’m trash and back away. But hopefully when my brothers have kids, I’d get along with them and they will grow to understand that their aunt is awkward even though she pretends to be cool and will buy you stuff. I really look forward to it more than I expected. Every time I thought of myself in the future (in my 40’s & 50’s), I always imagined work and then my home. My quiet home where I lived alone and didn’t have guest bedrooms and a dining room) because I just never subconsciously envisioned sharing with anyone. My core personality legit wants to be alone. Along the line, I’ve started thinking, ‘oh, I should have another bedroom.’ I’m planning for when my niece/nephew wants to visit or comes to live with me because they’re starting out college. I don’t live in the same country as my family. I have two brothers but I’m just realizing I’ve been planning for one niece/nephew. Guess they’re going to fight to be my favorite because three bedrooms is too many! 😂

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        Yeah, I guess I do not want kids because I do not want to go through the whole pregnancy and childbirth process, so I understand what you mean.

        As for getting along with kids, you might turn out all right. I do not know you and can sadly not vouch for you, but I used to be awkward around babies/kids until 4 years ago as well. When my goddaughter/niece was born, I was so scared to hold her and that I would hurt her or mess up. But nobody was having my insecurities and she was in my arms before I knew it. Everyone told me that it would change with her because she was family and in my case they were right. When her little brother/my godson/nephew was born three years later I practically snatched him from his mother’s arms!😂 I do see my sisters and her kids often, so I admit that I have another advantage there.

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      My point about the drama wasn’t really about Jang Nara’s character picking or fully exploring adoption. I understand and agree with you. There are so many complexities into having a baby irregardless of the process.
      My point was just noticing how not a single character has mentioned the possibility of adoption. It’s almost as if it is not an option or it doesn’t exist. That’s why I inferred it was probably a cultural thing. If you watch the drama (it’s a really good watch!), in Jang Nara’s desperate search for a sperm donor and the warranted and unwarranted counseling she’s received from loved ones and nosy passerbys (not even her gynecologist) mentioned ‘adoption can be option for some people!’ In the show, it almost feels like the concept doesn’t exist. That’s what I was pointing out.

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    I was like you and @mindy as well. Didn’t want to have kids and if than to adopt because there’re so many of them waiting for better life or to be loved. Until I had one when I was 34 and I wouldn’t change it. Now I have a second one and I’m enjoying it to the fullest. With first one I was suffering from severe postnatal depression ( suicidal thoughts, bad mom thoughts and giving up my son for adoption), it did pass but I know now why I was having a hard time then, but that’s another story.

    It’s really hard and expensive to adopt even in any European country, mostly you need to be married and have a great financial situation. There were lots of Korean babies, children adopted in France 20- 30 years ago and if those parents weren’t rich they have had it really rough. At some stage, mostly as a teenager, an adopted person wants to look for her/his real parents and adoptive parents need to provide a deep understanding of why it’s like that. That’s why when a child is born to poor parents he/she can’t swap them out and loves or hates them but can’t change.

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      I’ve heard so many stories of people who didn’t want kids and then got them and wouldn’t ever change it. I’m always happy to hear that. It makes me wonder what I’d do in a scenario like that given that I’m not fully opposed to having children.
      I’ve subconsciously been planning my life around being alone and most of me looks forward to it. But if there’s one thing life has taught me in my short lifetime is that, no one knows the future. 10 years ago, I wanted to have a child. Today? I don’t think so. Who knows what I would have learnt along the way that could change my mind? Life’s a journey so I’ve come to the decision to not 100% rule out things I’m unsure about. But right now, at this point in my life, I don’t see myself actively planning to have kids unless I’m in my late 40’s and it’s adoption because the career path I’ve chosen (the one that speaks to me) is one that, in the event I have a family, I’ll either have to sacrifice or let my family suffer it. Based on my personality, as of now, I’d be miserable either way.

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    It’s forbidden for single people. It’s ridiculous. They imagine everyone there already knows this so she doesn’t even think about it.

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    The point of adoption was discussed elsewhere (perhaps in the fanwall or under the recap). As a mother myself, I can totally relate to the want of becoming a biological mother going through the whole process – a unique natural ‘gift’ for woman. It’s more than about having a child although getting pregnant and have a smooth delivery is never a given.

    Coming from a Western country with adoption locally and overseas readily available, I have three colleagues choosing IVF despite the physical and emotional traumas as well as the prohibitive costs – even surrounded by the best possible family support. One succeeded in having 3 children through IVF while the other two remain childless.

    At the end of the day, it’s about informed and personal choice. No straightforward answer here, not to mention adoption is a taboo in Korea.

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    When this whole adoption discussion appeared in the comments, I tried to look for some information, and what I found (although in non official sites and only forums and comments) is that in SK it is not possible to adopt a child if you are single. So HaRi faces the same problem, and you have to think that adoption is a process that can take years (like 3 or 4).
    HaRi has given herself 6 months time to get pregnant. She needs to do that in that time, because she needs to get surgery as soon as possible. Endometriosis is a very serious illness that affects us woman and is not usually diagnosed on time, mainly because we are told that when we have our periods it’s normal it hurts and just take a pain killer. We should all pay attention to our health.

    And then there’s this other thing that I like how it’s shown: HaRi never worried before it would be too late because she feels she’s still young. And we can feel young and healthy, but the fact is that woman should better be a mother in her 20’s than in her 40’s. Very few women get a pregnancy in their 40’s the natural way, without any specific treatment, specially if it’s their first child. And we never think about it when we get older. That’s exactly what happened to HaRi, she always thought she had time and then the doctor told her about her probabilities. I know the scene was harsh and it may have seen as her doctor was being even rude, but I think it emphasized the shock of realizing her time was about to end.

    And regarding you and how you feel about kids and that you’re not good with them, just think that if you ever become a mother your child would not be a kid but YOUR kid. It’s something different. I have a friend, and she’s never liked children, in fact she was really upset when she found out she was pregnant, and she always say: I still don’t like kids, but I LOVE my beautiful daughter.

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      I am totally with you – I never like kids and still don’t like kid, with my daughter being the only exception in the whole world. It sounds terrible and is a fact.

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        It doesn’t sound terrible to me, but totally coherent.

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    I’m not familiar with SK law, but I imagine that if getting a sperm donor is a shut door, adopting as a single parent is probably also impossible!
    I live in an European country with a more progressive legislation, and here adopting as a single parent albeit legal is still almost impossible. I work in the school system, so I get to see a lot of adopted children, and they are 98% from international adoptions and adopted by a mom and a dad. International adoptions bring their own set of issues, but, for starters, they are costly and usually you need to fit a mold too: straight, married, under 40, with a steady job but free time, able-bodied, etc.
    All this to say that Hari’s outlook on adoption is probably even worst than on conceiving herself, endometriosis* and all.

    *I’m happy that this drama talks about endometriosis. It affects women’s work life and intimate relationships, and it can be truly debilitating. People don’t talk enough about it!

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Kkondae Intern…? Who has seen the first episode?

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I really like Go Joon and his character in Oh My Baby.

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    Did he redeem himself? He was such a jerk on ep 1 when he talked to her.

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      Yes, he did, he did!

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      I know this is late.
      I didn’t think he was a jerk… unprovoked. She did eagerly approach him (after he’d already turned her down) but he didn’t know that she didn’t know that. So in his head, here’s a desperate and weird woman trying to hit on him (and she was acting pretty weird) and then, she touched him without his consent, especially since there were no ‘vibes’. He must have felt justified. In the same episode, he helped her when he thought she needed help. I didn’t think he needed to redeem himself. They’ve cleared up the misunderstanding.

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        I know she was being creepy with the touching but I just thought he was having pleasure saying mean things to someone who wanted his attention. He could have used a million reasons to reject her but instead he went right for the cheap shot, telling she fell in love with him, was needy and delusional. That was a lot of insult for a simple awkward flirt, this is a jerk response so he needed some redemption for me.

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I’m only 10mins into Oh My Baby’s 3rd episode and I want to bitchslap the doctor. Why is she still seeing the same rude doctor? Also, I’m wondering if it’s true that single women can’t have an IVF in SK. Surely that can’t be true? ‘A spouse’s consent is needed to receive sperm from a donor?’ I refuse to believe that this is true.

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    Considering that you can only divorce if there’s a cause (not because you just want and no explanation needed), as much as I find this outraging, I think it may be true.
    Not that SK is in feminism vanguard… :/

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    It’s probably true, someone said they can’t adopt either. They have a long road ahead.

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    I read recently that only 2% (2! that’s not a typo) of children in SK are born out of wedlock, compared to 40% on average across the OECD. So it wouldn’t surprise me if a single woman can’t have IVF

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    She’s so annoying. I wish Ha-ri can just go to Seok-hyung at Yulje (Hospital Playlist) coz her doctor is awful.

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I need to see Kim Woo Bin in something…like now! I’ve been watching clips of him in running man and my gawd, I miss his giggle and eyebrows!! 😫😫 But for now, I’m just happy he’s healthy.

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I really liked Oh My Baby’s premier episodes and I could go on and on explaining why (JANG NA RA) but I’ll be vain today – Go Joon is f##king HOT! 🔥 🔥
That is all and thanks for coming to my Ted Talk!

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I know it’s the middle of the month already but the theme of the month changes so much. What’s this month’s theme? I wasn’t on DB for a while.

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    LOL..The first ones were 30 Day challenge and Grateful May.
    Then people started expand handle name and some questionnaire. Looks like a new theme starts every week!
    Some of us are planning to do the 30 day challenge till the end!

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      I missed it so I don’t know what exactly constitutes the 30 day challenge. I see the hashtag but with different challenges(?). How do I know what today’s challenge is?

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    If you need the prompts for each of the days of the 30-Day Challenge , feel free to visit my Fan Wall ☺️☺️

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    The theme of the month is the drama challenge. The others were just boredom busters and fillers 🤣

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    Hahaha we somehow decided to do ALL THE THINGS this month 😆

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Who is watching ‘Oh My Baby’?

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    Is that good as I want to watch it?

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      I’ve seen just the first episode and I liked it so far. I found it to be very funny and Jang Na ra is a huge plus.

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    I watched 30 minutes….and fell asleep. Soooooo….I don’t know how I feel about it.

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      Same. I’ll give it another go sometime.

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      I liked the first episode. I haven’t seen the next but the humour was right up my alley.

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    Meeee! Will stick for Jang Nara!

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    Me! Watched first episode and loved Jang Na-ra but hated everybody else.

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      I liked Jang Na Ra’s character and especially appreciated how very different she is from me. But I also liked Go Joon’s character. I know he’s full of himself but there’s a harmless way to him… so far. I want Park Byung Eun to take better care of his kid. And I really disliked the Obgynae doctor. She was so unprofessional and insensitive. 🙄

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        The doctor was awful. I can’t understand why she kept going back to her.

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    I am and enjoying both the cast and the plot. First week’s episodes are breezy watch and am already looking forward to the next!

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I’m seeing comments about Ji Chang Wook and Kim Yoo Jung’s ‘Convenience Store Saet Byul’ and they’re already negative. I thought it’d be mostly about the age gap but it’s seems to be about the source material. It’s problematic? I haven’t read the webtoon and most likely won’t and the synopsis doesn’t seem problematic so I’m curious. Beanies who are aware, please clue me in.

I’ve been unenthusiastic about the show which is very hypocritical of me. Yoo Jung is an adult. She turns 21 this year and as long as they’re both adults (the characters and the actors), there’s nothing wrong with it. I know that. My brain knows that but I still feel icky because I’ve seen her grow through dramas and while I’m happy she’s taking on older roles, I still can’t shed off that ‘young image’ I have of her. The image she’s most likely trying to shed since she used to be a child actor. If she’d been paired with male actors in her age group, it’d be marginally better. But it’s Yoo Jung! She’s a veteran actor and apart from Yeo Jin Goo, I cant think of other male actors that can match her. Anyway, older female actors are often paired with younger male actors. I guess it wouldn’t have felt icky if she were in her late twenties and paired with a much older male actor.
Anyway, I’m most likely going to check it out. Ji Chang Wook, apparently, is just too irresistible to me. It’s beyond me and I’ve accepted my fate. I watched Melting me Softly (okay, I skimmed through it) up until the 12th episode and while I disliked it, I found myself subconsciously looking forward to it the next week. Won Jin-A didn’t help. She, too, is irresistible.

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    Lee Da Hee is 35, Lee Jae Wook is 22, and the whole DB has been swooning over them for months and the couple has been all over the fanwall these past few days in various favorite catagories. I didn’t like WWW and I’m probably not going to watch Convenience Store, so I’m trying hard not to engage in this battle at all.

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    I feel like the age gap issue is more emphasized by the fact that there’s a power imbalance in “Convenience Store”. He’s the manager and she’s his underling (based on the synopsis). I think that’s part of why it’s being received less favourably.

    I watched Melty also for JCW – and felt like the lead actors weren’t the problem, everything else was. Given this show has a reportedly decent PD (I’ve actually never watched Fiery Priest, but have seen lots of raves about it), and a much simpler premise, I’ll likely tune in and reserve final judgment after I’ve watched an episode or two. (Or all…)

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      Exactly, the age gap is not an issue for me, but the fact that there can be an imbalance here: a boss and his employee.
      I don’t know anything about the webtoon, and I find the premise zero interesting. Promising comedy all over the place seems like a promise that will be broken (IMO).
      Do you know when you have the feeling that even if you really want to like something you know it’s not going to be ok? Well, that’s the feeling I get from this one.

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        Reasons why I watch with only one easily attainable expectation: Do I get to look at JCW’s face? Y/N? Y? GREAT!

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    I’ve taken a glimpse of the webtoon before (it doesn’t have a translation yet, as far as I know) because of the uproar from k-netizen. Apparently it has a very strong sexual undertone (with female characters being drawn with exaggerated boobs and all that). The female character is shown to be sly and very experienced in “flirting” despite her age, and she continuously teased the naive male lead in a very inappropriate way (like making the male lead “accidentally” touching her body) in the first couple of chapters.

    I think the drama would shave off all that and only using the webtoon’s basic plot as the source of its story. But I guess people just don’t want Yoo-jung to be associated with the risky source material.

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Ep #1 of Soul Repairer: I loved it!! Jung So Min is amazing as usual. I’m not a fan of SHK’s character yet.

Ep#2: OMG!! I really don’t like SHK’s character and his methods.

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Yoo Ji Tae x Lee Bo Young pairing. Is it just me or does the pairing seem so natural like they’ve always been paired in projects before? I feel like I’ve seen them together before. It just makes so much sense and I haven’t even seen the premier yet.

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I’ve just finished the first episode and the jury is still out. I have no particular feelings of dislike or even like towards the drama. While Woo Do Hwan is insanely attractive – and I mean, INCREDIBLY attractive – I didn’t really have any urge to watch the next episode.
In theory, the background world of the drama is interesting. KES is always good at that. She creates interesting fantasy worlds but her main characters (the FL) end up being so flat and the plot also derails in this lackluster way. Usually, there’s a humor undertone to her characters (ML) that keeps the story somewhat interesting for like 6 episodes. She does bromance well too but… I’m not feeling that between LMH and WDH. I’d say it’s too early but look at Goblin. Flaws and all, the humorous bromance between the Goblin and grim reaper was electric from the moment they met. It’s why I continued to the next episode.
Maybe it’s LMH? Honestly, I blame beanies for this. Every time I see him, I think of frigid, stalkerish Kim Tan and the Heirs and just how terrible all of it was it doesn’t help he’s sporting a similar hairstyle (and the hug at the end 😣). I’ve never disliked LMH. Sometimes, I found him attractive (first ep of Legend of the Blue Sea) and while I’ve watched a lot of his projects, I’m still not his fan. I never really thought of his acting so I didn’t know some people thought he was a bad actor. But I watched him in Gangnam Blues and it was the only time I thought of his acting and really liked him. He should take on more complicated roles.

Anyway KGE’s and Kim Kyung Nam’s characters came up in the last minutes of the show so I’m now mildly interested. I’m pleasantly surprised because I loved KGE in Cheese in the Trap and her movies. She’s very talented and Goblin made me weep for how she was just wasted. I think she did the best she could with what she had. She was lovable at the very least. And Kim Kyung Nam speaks for himself. He’s always a scene stealer for me and he always carries his weight.
So I’ll be checking out the next episode. I still don’t know the plot of the drama🙈. I really should go read the synopsis.

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    Just watched ep 2! I think it’s better than the first, if that helps to make up your mind. The multiple homicide plots have me completely lost, but I assume things will be gradually revealed as we move along. I suspect there are time-leaps involved along with the dimension-leaps we’ve already seen…

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      I haven’t been able to get through the 2nd episode! I’m halfway through and TBH, I’m bored. Nothing hits it for me. Not even the humor or double WDH which is a treat (his voice with that accent? 🔥). I feel like I’m forcing myself to watch it. Maybe I’ll pick it up if beanies says it gets better.

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      I was the opposite and thought the drama took a nosedive in the 2nd ep. It’s so incredibly boring and no one acts like actual humans. The best part was the small part between bodyguard WDH and the photographer. It took me a long time to make it through ep 2.

      LMH is basically playing Kim Tan but the royal version. And he is creepy and a narcissist.

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    About LMH, I have the same problem as you! This is my first LMH drama, and I’m totally prejudiced against him, hahaha! But the cast in this is really impressive and totally makes up for that… I can already tell that the cop team will be pure gold if they’re given half a decent script

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      Supporting actors have always been tasked with carrying terribly written scripts and less experienced lead actors. They always make up for it!
      I wasn’t prejudiced against LMH till some beanies started Heirs rewatch and their gifs made me realize just how terrible it was. I didn’t really watch it the first time (I only watched Kim Woo Bin’s scenes and skipped). And I’ve see most of LMH’s projects but he looks too much like Kim Tan here that I just can’t.

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        I loved LMH in Faith. Only drama I did, tough.
        I The Heirs he is just terrible (everything is terrible about that drama).

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        Welp. I was the culprit behind most if not all gifs during the Heirs watch. The show was bad, I’m surprised by the amount of praise and buzz it got 🙃.

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    I couldn’t finish the first episode. I may give it a try if beanies say it gets better with next week’s episodes. But I just couldn’t finish it.
    I kind of liked LMH here, he’s something more than Kim Tan (and you are right, the hairstyle doesn’t help). I always want to see him as he was in Faith. I loved him on that one.
    An your are absolutely right about Woo Do Wan. I love that man and… where was he? And not much chemistry with LMH I must say…
    The scenes with the kids were just awful. I don’t blame the kids for the poor acting and the nonsense. I blame director.

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      Kids’ scenes only provoked me to wonder:
      -woah, that’s a lot of blood on that kid’s feet!
      -where did the plastic sword come from?
      Not good… but episode 2 is better!

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        Also: what is that kid doing alone in a part of the palace he’s not supposed to be. Aren’t a thousand eyes on him because he’s the only son to the King. Where is his mother? Or his nanny? (maybe he’s a Disney Princess motherless).
        And yes, the blood on his feet: they were already full covered in blood when he arrived to were everybody was dead… so… what kind of coup d’etat is this that doesn’t have guards all over the place?

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      The kids’ scenes were really so awful! I don’t blame them either. I swear I’ve seen WDH’s kid actor in other projects and I don’t think he was bad. I couldn’t get through the 2nd episode. I tapped out.

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        Wise decision. Ep 2 felt like it was 3 hours long. I dont know if I can keep going. Its genuinely bad and not a good bad either. Which is sad as I was looking forward to this 😔

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Halfway through ep #1 of Eternal Monarch. I’m not sure what to make of it but I came here to say this: Woo Do-Hwan! That is all.

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I remember sometimes ago, very recently, some beanies were talking about how having prejudices against a certain actor or production team can cause you to miss out on an awesome show. I agreed. I’ve never been a fan of Seo Kang Joon. Dislike is a strong word so rather than dislike, I was in that area between dislike and indifference. It wasn’t his acting or anything, I just never liked his characters till Eun Seob even though I’m still not a fan. I’m just not not a fan. Not sure I’m making sense 😅 but I digress.
Anyway, my love for PMY and interest in the plot trumped my sentiments towards him but either way, I’m glad I checked it out. It’s been a favorite.
Which brings me to Eternal Monarch. I haven’t seen a bit of it (I didn’t even watch the trailer and I’m not sure what it’s about) but my snooty nose is already so bent, I’m pretty sure it’s a sickle. It’s a disease I suffer from – sitting on high horses I have no business being on cause I’ve said it before – I don’t know how to ride a horse!! But in my snooty defense, it just seems like a blockbuster that will end up being flat. I’m cynical for a reason. Still, I will watch it. I don’t know why I’m forcing myself to or why I’m caring or why I’m snooty. It shouldn’t matter. I should either watch it or not but I don’t want to miss a drama that may be something I’d really enjoy. Maybe it’d be a hot mess I’d enjoy. Maybe I’d be wrong or maybe it’ll just end up being lackluster like my snobby ass thinks. 🤷🏾‍♀️

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    Tbh it’s not great so far, and not crack-y enough like some other KES dramas to really draw you in. I’m just in it for Kim Go-eun so far. Surprisingly, the best character in this KES drama after the first 2 episodes is the female lead.

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      Unlike KES’s bang on first week episodes, there was actually nothing interesting in The King except for the fact that it’s maybe going for a time and space travel. I’m shocked that the female lead is in fact interesting, which maybe KES read our comments by chance? The story seems thin and Lee Min Ho is under acting, I want to be heard through the scene and shout please change that monotone, please emote!

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      I’d argue that Kim Kyung Nam was the best character so far.

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    I can understand you (except the part where you’re not a fan of SKJ just because I’m at his feet from the moment I watched Cheese in the trap 🤣🤣🤣🤣). Anyway, the fact is that I can understand you, and I have the same feelings about The King. I’m going to start watching it but I’m not sure: I loved Goblin, I liked DOTS (enormous plot holes aside), I hated Heirs, and Mr. Sunshine was meh to me. And regarding LMH I’ve been watching most of his dramas trying to see again what I saw in Faith, and failing all the time…

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Follow-up interview from the last one. This one was also very informative.

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TRIGGER WARNING!

I don’t know how many beanies heard about the Korean Nth room case. I’ve just read that two of the people involved were sentenced to 1 year imprisonment and 3 years & 6months imprisonments. I am so fucking livid. How can these things that have violated and terrorized so many young girls and their families get such light sentencing? In my opinion, ‘people’ who can violate someone else in such cruel ways should not be given the rights of a human being or any other animal. If it were left to me, I’d have them kept alive and broken in ways that have them pleading for death!
I am so angry at world and that there’s absolutely nothing I can do about it. One doesn’t recover from it. I know people who’d been assaulted and molested and are in their 50s. Life moved on but they never really did. It still affects them till date. And the slimy piece of shit either goes scot free or gets off on a light sentence.
Life has bitterly taught me that justice is beyond our world and it’s one of the reasons I reverently hold on to faith because there better be retribution of some sorts. We all die as humans so death isn’t even nearly enough. They have to face retribution after death. I don’t think I can cope with the thought that people who commit such atrocities live and die like some of their victims and most times, not nearly as tragically as their victims. I can’t cope believing this is it. Full stop! No, they have to suffer. What kind of life is that for the victims? What sort of world is that? There has to be hell. There just has to be! And I can’t honestly wait for them to burn in deepest pits of it.

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    It is a horrifying case, hopefully between this and the Burning Sun cases it will start to change some of the laws, though that is a slim hope. I still get livid thinking about the Brock Turner case here in the states.

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      Seeing how many people were involved, directly and indirectly—victims and perpetrators— in the Burning Sun Scandal, and how much it blew up, but heavy sentencing wasn’t dealt, it’s not likely that there’s going to be much change—if any— in the near future… Not unless people become disgusted enough with the system and the government to revolt and kick up a fuss, which, again, will be a long shot because of the conservative and patriarchal nature of S.Korea’s society that’s so heavily functions on keeping up appearances, ego, and keeping face

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      I remember the Brock Turner case, but I hadn’t read his sentencing before. This is the reason why people don’t report. 3 months? Ok. Thats….wow. ok.

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      It wasn’t just with the Burning Sun incident. Kang Ji Hwan admitted to raping two women and threatening them after. He got off on probation. How? His defense asked for leniency because it was his 1st offense and because he’s going to be the head of a family. What about his victims? Why does his future come before theirs? Even with the creep JJY. We were at least happy he got something but 6years is a joke compared to the many atrocities he did on such a large scale. Even with the Cho Doo Soon case. For what that scum did, he should have been executed but he’s out on the street. I’m not as hopeful. I think it will die down and SK will go on without reviewing their laws or without making big changes.

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        I saw the rapper Verbal Jint got some backlash for seemingly to celebrate the suicide of someone involved in the nth room.

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Rewatching Matrimonial chaos cause I never got to finish it the first time around. Son Seok Koo.. my God! I have never felt this bad for such a serial cheater.

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I’m rewatching ‘Be Melodramatic’ and it’s such an experience. I loved it the first time but I love it even more this time around. I love the quirky nuances of each character. I also love, love the humor. Hands down one of my favorites!

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I want Be Melodramatic on my Netflix!! I want to rewatch it now!!!

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    It was on Netflix in my region a while back.

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    Did you check on Viki? Watched it there

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      A lot of shows aren’t available on Viki in my region so it’s not worth paying for. And when the shows are available, the multiple ads turn me off. So I don’t use Viki. It’s just not worth it here. ☹️

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        Viki isn’t great in my region either, and the ads are awful. I got myself a basic subscription: it’s less than 1USD/month (no adds, the catch is that you have to wait a week or two for new episodes of airing shows to be available, but sometimes they are generous and you get them immediately). For me, it’s totally worth it because, although I also watch stuff on Netflix and other sites, I always end up going to Viki for at least 1 drama every month (now I’m watching When the weather is fine, Watcher, and still deciding if I’ll watch A piece of your mind and Welcome). Anyway, my point is that Viki might me cheaper than you thought and worth considering a subscription…

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