Beanie level: Errand boy

Chan isn’t doing the drama with Kim So Hyun? But noo why?? 💔💔💔😪😪 I was only at peace with his heartbreaks on ’30 but 17′ because he would get the girl on love alarm but not happening anymore. πŸ™ At this point I’m wondering if he’s making these drama decisions or his agency doing that for him? Two good offers and both rejected! I get the reason for the first one but this one i was really looking forward to. :'(

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Life has been so good lately! The new turn of events frustrates me and agitates me, but I’m still loving it. They are stepping up the game, and it’s really doing wonders for the drama.
I am kind of annoyed with president Gu because of the recent events. Somehow I feel like he’s one of those humans who do shady things at work, but a good son to their parents, kin, lovers [maybe], so people praise them..but that doesn’t really make them good humans. So in the facade you are impressed by them, but then you realize for whom these people really work, the rich conglomerates and moneymakers, who have no ethics and no sense of morality. I don’t know if he’s gonna change, but I do hope jin woo succeeds in his fearless ambitious projects.

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    okay, remain faithful to their lovers*

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    I think he’s been humanized by his hospital stint, and judging by the preview for episode 12 (when so and so brought up the Ye brothers), he’s maybe now considering the implications/ethics of his actions… he’s doing these things out of duty and necessity, but it’s still BAD lol. I wonder what conclusion he’ll come to.

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Sorry for the random question lol, but I have been thinking about this a lot lately and I wanted to ask you all, maybe seeing how others face/handle this could help.
Would you step out of your comfort zone in any sector of your life [personal, professional etc.], to achieve something? Or would you think it’s okay if you don’t achieve it or go after it since it won’t be easy for you? :/

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    I stepped out of my comfort zone last year when I quit my job and moved to another state. I failed miserably and am now worse off than I was when I started. I would do it again. As AWFUL as a whole hell of a lot of it was I learned that the only thing holding me back from a lot of stuff is me. And that I’m capable of getting out of my own way—even if its hard. Even if it doesn’t work out.

    It was a good life lesson.

    And I complained and whined and threw all the fits here every step of the way.

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      You are very very brave isa. πŸ™
      Like the way you say you will do it again, that means you ‘are’ on the other side of the ocean and you did it.

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      @isthatacorner I do want to ask you though, how did you handle it? I mean did you have panic attacks, or like a little voice in your head which keeps telling you how you would not be able to handle it? Lol I know there is no solution to issues like this one but I am also mad at myself for not being cool about it. 😩😔😔

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        I had panic attacks, I cried a lot. I gave up A LOT. But, this may not make a whole lot of sense but it help me: how do you even quit, anyway? And I follow that rabbit all the way down the hole. When I was in CO and I quit my train of thought went a lot like:
        I QUIT! I am NEVER looking for a stupid job in this stupid place again! Done! I’m going to binge watch a drama now!.
        If i never find a job then….
        I wont be able to pay my cable and internet bill so (no more dramas)
        I’ll get evicted from my apartment so I’ll live in my car (and have to use public restrooms. gross)
        I wont be able to pay my car payment so my car will repossessed
        So I’ll be homeless (back to this public restroom business)
        And when you’re homeless you have to ask people for money for food and such
        And I hate talking to strangers (except for when I’m in the library)
        So I’ll ultimately starve literally to death.

        I tell myself (and told myself) things will get better or they wont. Either way I have to take the next step. Sometimes, the next step is admitting defeat. I have a playlist for that! Its my πŸ™ playlist. I listen to Jason Mraz’s 3 Things (which talks about taking a breath and letting the chapter end. Its only when you do this will a new chapter begin). I listen to A Life That’s Good from the Nashville Cast to remind me that I’m not wanting something impossible and One Step At a Time from Jordin Sparks to remind me that things don’t happen all at once (this was my go-to when I was applying for grad school and not getting in) and Almost There from The Princess and the Frog OST.

        I prayed a lot. I’m still in that place. I’m still in recovery mode as my life is STILL a disaster and I have NO IDEA how to fix it or what to do next and I would very much please like someone else to be in charge for awhile because I am screwing up all the time and I’d like to see what its like when things dont suck—just for comparisons sake.

        But–knowing everything thats happened this past year? Would I do it again? In spite of all of the ugly sobbing that occurred? In spite of the hits that my self worth and self esteem took? In spite of the fact that I was almost practically kidnapped by an insane person would I do it again? Yes. I don’t regret going on my big adventure as awful as it turned out to be because I learned a lot about myself. And I honestly learned a lot about who my friends are and aren’t and who I can turn to when the chips are down.

        Dude. Why do you have to be cool about it? Where is it written that you have to be cool about it? I have been a HOT FREAKING MESS about this ENTIRE thing. There were days where I literally sat on the floor in my pajamas and sobbed. All day. Thats it. I got up to use the restroom. I didn’t eat. I didnt drink. I just sat on the floor and sobbed until I had no more tears and I did that dry sobbing/gagging thing that always makes me feel like I’m going to throw up.

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          Thank you so much for sharing Isa. I think next time whenever I will have doubts or panic attacks I will come back here and read your post again and again. πŸ™

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    @fay17
    This is a good question and one I’ve been asking myself lately. I think that I will regret if I DON’T step out of my comfort zone to go after that which makes my heart sing.

    It has been said many times that on their deathbeds, many people don’t regret the things they did, but the things they DIDN’T do.
    Go for it! Try so you won’t have that regret!
    fighting!!!

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      Thank you so much @stpauligurl! I think you are completely right. Also knowing that a comfort zone exists, that means I have a lot of unconscious fear, so I guess no other way to overcome the fear than to embrace it.:/

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        I don’t know if this will help, but 11 years ago, I left my home, family, and job to move across the states and back to my hometown to take care of my aging parents. It was really scary and I didn’t know what I was doing – but it was the BEST decision I ever made.
        I was lucky and got to be with my parents when they died. It is the one thing in life that i have NO regrets about.
        So just try it!!!

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          Wow you are mentally very strong. It’s an incredible feat to leave your job and family altogether, so I think that’s really commendable. I mean at this stage, when I am kind of struggling with my own limitations, I feel like I didn’t learn anything all these years at all lol. So I really give value to the people who can perform at times of need [and take major decision like this one] when they need to do so. Thank you for sharing dear. I can imagine how being there for your parents at that time gave you the strength to overcome anything. My mom still misses my granny so much cause she wasn’t near her when she died, so I know how precious the experience is.

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            I miss my mom and dad every single day – but I’m surrounded by things they loved and photos of them, and I know that they are in my DNA so they aren’t really gone.
            However, when I see dramas about elders with Dementia it breaks my heart – but I’m still glad and would do it again.
            So go for it @fay17! Try stepping out of your comfort zone – at least once to see how it feels.

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            I bawled my eyes out watching Go Back couple and how Jang Nara missed her mom. You are so incredibly strong, brave and positive, I hope I can persevere to be some of that at least. Just makes us realize how precious people and memories are.

            @stpauligurl Thank you for all the cheers and words of encouragement dear. 😊😊 Let’s see, I hope I can go for it. *Nervous laughs.

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    True, to actually being able to pull it off should be a success in itself. And a karaoke career, wow! Sounds really awesome Tim!

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    It is really hard for me to step out of my comfort zone. There has been more times I’ve regretted not stepping out than doing so. I’ve taken a couple steps that have worked out well for me.
    But, know yourself. I’m an introvert and sometimes I feel like people do not understand that I do recharge and thrive on alone time. Sometimes I am just being shy and in my comfort area, but other times it is where I need/want to be.
    But I agree with taking the chance.

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      Oh when you are totally fine or at peace with where you are, it should be okay though right? My problem is if I don’t get out of the comfort zone I know I would regret it, but then again I know the fears that come with taking the chances. Heck, even thinking about it is stressful I guess. 😅

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    Ohh. Sorry I missed the pun haha. And yeah I totally agree. Like the director of ladybird says lol, ‘my love for direction is greater than my talent’.

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    I’ve done it twice & my only suggestion is that you plan it out carefully. Be sure that XYZ is what you want to do, as well as what your first few steps need to be. Other than that, have the resolve to face the consequences without regret. Not everyone who tries, succeeds. But those who succeed, only do so because they tried.

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      I think many of the people who succeed fail many times on the way to their success. Part of it is how they handle the failures along the way.

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        Most definitely.

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        There’s a really nice twitter hashtag called #ShareYourRejections – which serves to show just how normal rejection is. It’s my very fave thing on Twitter.

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          (rejection, mistakes, failure all being the same side of the same coin – apologies for responding in three parts) ^^

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      I don’t know what I’m gonna do, but I am really taking into consideration each and every bit of advice, so do know that this really helps. I really needed this I guess. Thank you!

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    I think stepping out of your comfort zone is one of the ways you grow and change as a person. Whether it works out well or not, you learn more about yourself. It might help if you have some healthy coping skills ahead of time – whether it’s exercise, meditation or something else that helps you relax and deal with stress.

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      That growing and changing part is definitely something that I am looking forward to the most. Thank you so much for the precious words!

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    My karaoke career is stopped by the thought of it being a win-lose. Win for me, lose for any unfortunate listeners.

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    I’m just gonna say: You can do better. Way. Way. Better. But thats an awfully sweet thing to say.

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    I recommend trying two thought experiments.
    One is to imagine what you would tell your best friend to do if she asked you the same question.

    The second is to try to project how I feel after I’ve made each of the choices, say maybe a week later and a month later (get creative; sometimes you will know 5 minutes after you choose, or you want to think about a year later). You choose to step out, how do you feel? You choose to remain in place, how do you feel? Write down the feelings like you would a pro/cons list. It may make something clear. For example, once I thought about how I’d feel after I resigned my job, I realized I was already soooo gone from that job in my mind, that was my answer.

    And then here’s a weird suggestion, watch “Moana” if you haven’t seen it lately. It’s really good for thinking about having to step out of your comfort zone. Good luck!

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      Very good suggestions! I’m much grateful to all of you, really.
      This is actually such a big step that my answer keeps changing at different occasions lol. But for now, I have decided to take a deep breath and go with the flow.
      I haven’t watched Moana, will sure do so. Many many thanks again for the words.

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Omg I have a new bias. <3 __<3 🙈🙈😂😂Call me shallow beanies all you want, but those veins. 😍😍🙈🙈

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    I just watched this yesterday! It was cute and I liked the heroine a lot. I first watched him in Kurosaki kun no Iinari ni Nante Naranai with Nana Komatsu. 😁

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      I loved the movie too and became a fan of nakajima kento in the process lol. So much that I binge watched the movie you mentioned in one go, all 3 episodes of it. 🙈😅 Although it was a bit questionable but I have to say the main leads had amazing chemistry! I really hope they appear in some other movies in future!

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Okay, the sheer absurdity of meteor garden\’s last few episodes [30-33] deserves a mention. I think I had enough of shancai\’s stupidity. I mean considering how much of a brat dao ming si is, I still have to give it to him for sticking to her all these time lol. It has been 33 episodes already and it took her that long to realize that she loves him.
And to leave him just for her friends, well I acknowledge that she had her reasons but she could have still explained the situation to him, not just leave him like a coward.
And I think I had enough with Lei as well. I am still puzzled whether Lei actually liked Shancai or meant it when he said he took all these attempts to reunite shancai and Dao Ming Si. And what in the earth was all that about when he made shancai turn off her phone for 48 hours?
Also enough with the monkey girl and her bitchiness too. I mean she claims to be a friend of shancai and then right in front of her outright lies about Dao Ming Si liking her. Such a two-faced person geez!
And I think they could have totally avoided caina and terence\’s bullsh*t loveline or whatever that was. I fast forwarded most of it, and dang, even watched some of the craps because of poor Mei Zuo.
Although I did enjoy episode 30-33 because of all the angst and misunderstanding, I do admit I was quite pissed at shancai. And to think that at the end it was again Dao Ming Si who came running to her, and not the other way around. I mean I don\’t think I would have stayed for her after all the confusion and stress she caused, made him go through. The least she could do is at least confess properly how she felt for him but that never happened either. Watching the last several episodes made me feel like I was part of their story and I am emotionally quite drained now myself lol. 😅😅

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    Thank you for voicing my dissapointment on Shancai. Shancai/Ahsi are going strong in the next episodes but I already lost interest. Don’t expect too much from side characters’ new story line (read: Xiao you/Ximen), theirs are even worse.
    Seriously, I wouldn’t be able going trough meteor garden without shooting stars beanies.

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      Haha, I’m still invested because of the OTP. I have to admit even with all the absurdities, like dao ming si’s tyrant mom, terrence-caina, ximen,xiayou’s love line [about which I couldn’t care less], I am still here because it has the old school kdrama vibe that we don’t see a lot these days. :/ Hehe.

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I love gangnam beauty, I really do but, this constant fascination about how pretty mi rae or so ah are is totally pissing me off. In school honestly people are more appreciated or even popular because of how talented that particular person is. I agree that favoritism and star culture exist in schools as well, but rather than focusing on prettiness, people are more favored because of how good they are in projects or if they stand in the merit list.
The way this show has been looking down at girls, and like I totally blew a fuse when on the last episode an average figured girl, [who is totally perfect let me tell you], got slammed by these disgusting guys in her class, and the girls just do nothing about it! I also find it furious that mi rae looked so guilty when that A$$ from her middle school turned up and called her names. It was not her fault in the first place for however she looked and heck, to hell with anyone who thinks that bashing based on people\’s looks is okay! This is totally uncalled for and the message this writer has been constantly trying to deliver just really is discomforting for me, somehow. I don\’t know how long I will continue this one, I mean I agree mirae and do kyung seouk together look very good, but I can\’t just close my eyes to the fact that there has been some kind of beauty worshipping going on here. At this point, I wished the writer had the guts to not change mi rae\’s face and just made it about her and her original face and then do kyung seok liking her.

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    What message do you think the writer is trying to deliver?
    I thought the message was that those people who judge others based on their looks are mean and dumb. Also, I thought the writer was trying to show that being beautiful won’t solve your problems.

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      You know I do realize that the writer was trying to project that it’s soul over beauty that matters. But in the process, he/she is actually giving more emphasis on the ugly details, IMO. Like it has been episode 6 already and all we have seen in the campus is how the girls are being looked down upon. So for example, if you want to protest against crime, then you would try to convey the message. If you keep showing only the crime scenes, keep giving the gore details and how wrongly the victim is being abused, without putting the emphasis on the wrongdoings, then the impact of justice is kind of lessened down, that’s what I feel. So in the same way, we get to see on a continuous basis about how mi rae used to be the epitome of ugliness. Her insecurities and traumas are being constantly mentioned. Likewise, the other girls and their imperfections are one of the major parts of the show. So it’s like showing a murder scene in details by making all the right impact but not saying how reaching the end goal [that is punishing the killer] is more important. That’s my main beef with this show, tbh. :S

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Did any of you ever have to take care of kids? My sister is out of town and I have to take care of her 10 years old boy and 7 years old girl and I think, this is it. They are small devils #$%@$^^@^ that comes in cute packages but I\’m about to lose my sanity and all my hair very soon. *Breathing in, breathing out. 😭😭😭🀧🀧

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    At least they’re old enough so you don’t have to change their pooped diapers hahaha 😂

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      Lol now it seems like that was a happier phase. 😂😂

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    I don’t hate kids but taking care of them is another story. 😄

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      Exactly! They are great as long as you stay at least 5m away from them. 😅😅

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    All i learned from taking care of my siblings kids is not to take them where it costs money. Keep them at home and playing with their own toys. 😅😅😅

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      I don’t know where they should be left at. Near their parents and that’s how it should be. 😅
      Sweet talks don’t work in their case. πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ

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        I know.** See even my sense of grammar is affected lol.

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        Keep them at their house. Spent a lot of money when i took my niece and nephew at the nearest mall. *neveragain unless my sister is with me* 😂

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        Maybe you should see what their interests are and keep them occupied in them however long you need to watch them.
        Or have a movie marathon. My nephew is an avid Star Wars fan.
        So that was helpful one time.

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    My boys are the same age. I don’t know how I survive daily.

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      I hope your boys grow up soon! I am amazed by all moms really. This is a gigantic task, almost like rearing animals. 😩 It’s very much possible that I will leave my kids at my neighbor’s doors if I ever have them. 😅

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        I just try to keep them busy. During the summer we are always off doing something. Just keeping them home makes it worse!

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    I keep hearing ‘No’ a lot. Go to sleep, no, take shower, nope, do your homework, nope.😢😅😅 At this rate, wondering who’s the kid here. πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ

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    Kids are crazy and wonderful. Hope you got some rest afterwards? *Hugs* Wish I could’ve helped!

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    Put them on a schedule that they make up. They want control, but you can still get them to do what you need them to do. Give them rules. You can put play time for as long as you want, but these things have to happen (brush teeth, shower, bedtime, etc.) Use a timer. That way they feel like they control the schedule and have done indepedence. They don’t want to be treated like babies st this age and ordering them what to do and when to do it makes them feel like you don’t respect them and that they’re infants or toddlers. This may be late, but maybe you’ll get to talked care of them again!

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https://mydramalist.com/article/how-are-you-human-too-breaks-the-laws-of-robotics-0731182712

A very interesting write up on the premise of AYHT. I didn\’t know about Asimov\’s 3 laws of robotics and the short story on a robot named speedy seems really interesting which I plan to read soon. But the writer has made some really interesting observations and in the process mentioned some of the issues I had with this drama. Check it out if those who are watching the show have time. πŸ™‚
But regardless like the writer I also agree, in the end, it\’s a good show, just with some glaring inconsistencies. Some words from the post that are food for thought.
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While the writer should be free to do what he wants, he should also be consistent within his own universe. The problem I have with this show, as much as I like it, is that we\’re told Shin has to follow rules, then he\’s made to break those rules. It doesn\’t even appear that the writer did this to show that Shin is growing and changing. Often, Shin will follow some rules and break others, meaning the author is picking and choosing when the rules apply and when they don\’t.

If Shin has to follow a set of rules similar to Asimov’s, then sentience should not result from the paradoxes he faces; he should be running in circles. They could have solved this problem before it even existed by directly stating that Shin is not beholden to all rules and directions. If he’d started sentient, there would be no issue, but because he doesn’t, issues are unavoidable. Asimov’s laws (and by proxy, the laws governing NS3\’s actions) are fundamentally broken and were meant to show the pitfalls of trying to codify morality, but AYHT?’s writer seems not to have understood that these laws aren’t viable. It looks to me that telling his story while following the laws got too hard, so he jumped ship and forgot about the whole thing. That is not good writing.

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    Oh snap. I actually have a copy of the book lying around. I think I will read it before watching the show. Gonna save the article for future reference too.

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    This is how I see it: Shinnamon was like an obedient kid at the beginning of the show. He liked to follow the rules because it made Laura and David happy so he always followed them. However, once he got to Korea and met SoBong, he started to rebel a little. He sometimes did what he wanted to do instead of always going by the rules. I think of this as his rebellious teenage phase. Now, after almost being forced to kill people and overriding manual mode he is questioning the “rules” even more and is becoming an adult.

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    I have a lot of problems with the show and its writing. But my problem is the opposite of yours. I see Shin as constantly following his program even when the show wants us to believe he isn’t. So while I see self-awareness and sentience, I don’t see consciousness or a determination to break his programming.

    It’s like the scene on the roof with Sobong. Everyone was like “love conquers all!”. All I saw was an AI fighting what was essentially a hack and finally succeeding by reverting to its core programming directive i.e. hug a person who’s crying.

    It’s also like his ‘relationship’ with Sobong. He was programmed as a replacement child. That is, he was programmed to unconditionally support and obey one person. He simply shifted from his mother to Sobong. He wasn’t ‘rewriting his program’. He was simply obeying a new master.

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      I totally agree with you that this was what he was doing. Especially as this situation was hitting both of his core rules: hug someone who cries & protect Sobong.

      I also really like that he’s obeying a master who tells him to break the rules every now and then – and so he does. Which must be a total mindfuck if you’re an AI.

      That said: if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, who’s to say it’s not really a duck? I do also like Sobong’s interpretation that actions are what matters.

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        I do too. Or rather, for me, it’s that as a person we have to respond to his behaviours as we do to a person’s because the alternative is to pick and choose when we behave like a human being.

        This is the classic paradox of Cartesian dualism – we can’t see a person’s consciousness, we can only see their behaviours. If Shin behaves like a person with emotions then that’s how he should be treated.

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          And I haven’t heard the term Cartesian dualism since I did a few philosophy courses at Uni a while back.

          Gotta love dramas that tell interesting stories and also inspire interesting debates.

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      @leetennant Haha I really want to take part in Cloggie and your conversation except that I feel like you are talking about some maths I don’t understand. πŸ˜›
      I do know that I agree with the writer whose post I shared. I also agree with what you said too. Especially last part of your statement,
      ‘All I saw was an AI fighting what was essentially a hack and finally succeeding by reverting to its core programming directive i.e. hug a person who’s crying.’
      And , this, ‘He simply shifted from his mother to Sobong. He wasn’t β€˜rewriting his program’. He was simply obeying a new master.’– Exactly, but I wouldn’t say he developed sentience, rather maybe all along all he did was mechanically acting according to his programmed version and maybe breaking the rules whenever possible.
      Although erm, just cause he looks like a human, is he a human? I don’t think he is, :S. Like the writer of the original post said, if this was a fantasy I think I would leave my brain out of the door and digest anything that has been said and done by nam shin III, but they say it’s a Sci-fi, and that’s why when the rules are not being followed and kind of convoluted it’s hard to buy the logic behind it or the reality of the story. Like Ioved Edward Scissorshand and although he was a robot, we knew he was created with the function of love, so it seems like we were in another kind of make-believe world. So we already knew we were not supposed to ‘question’ the algorithms the laws were based upon. But that’s not the case here.

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        Like I loved.*

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        It’s common for people to use the world ‘sentience’ when they mean ‘sapience’ so it can cause some confusion. Sentience just means that he has senses – that he is able to perceive what is happening in the world around him and respond to it. Sapience is the ability to think and to reason. Common wisdom is that every animal is sentient but only humans are sapient.

        So NSIII is sentient but is he sapient? That’s the question.

        The show was quite clever to bypass that question completely by saying “it doesn’t matter whether NSIII is conscious or has emotions, what matters is how he behaves”. NSIII is not a human, nor does he have feelings. But since he looks and behaves like a human then, for the purposes of how we treat him, it doesn’t actually matter.

        Both this show and Westworld are trying to frame an android’s programming as a kind of childhood – it’s the basis of all our behaviours and we’re bound by it whether we want to be or not – but in the end we grow up and are able to amend that programming or re-enforce it if we choose. But whereas I think Westworld is pulling it off, I don’t think this show is.

        We can argue about why that is, but for me it’s because it’s too busy being a kdrama.

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          Wiki says sentience means the capacity to feel, perceive or experience subjectively..the ability to feel, which is different from the ability to think, that is sapience. Thanks for the heads up about sapience, but , is nam shin a sentient either? Because we know he understands the emotions but he can’t feel them right?
          The show was quite clever to bypass that question completely by saying β€œit doesn’t matter whether NSIII is conscious or has emotions, what matters is how he behaves”. – True, but when he makes interesting questions like, I feel like I must stop you from going to human nam shin, is this jealousy? I don’t understand how that works for him really. Also grandpa tells him to keep it a secret that he has dementia, but he gives it away to young hoon and so bong in time of emergency like humans would do, so it does seem like the writer applies and creates new rules whimsically without giving any explanation why the robot is working this way.
          But I didn’t know about this concept that animals are sentient beings, and have some level of consciousness. Very interesting indeed!
          I haven’t heard of Westworld but I will check this out, thanks for the name! I think you are right about this drama is being too busy being a kdrama lol, but still, I commend the writer for trying to do something different. πŸ˜€

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      I hope both of you still read the original post!

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    Love a mention of Asimov anywhere. I’ve grown up on Asimov and his Laws and reasonings.

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      I discovered him in childhood but then was scared of the too high thoughts lol. I think it’s time to take a second look. Would love to get some recommendations from you about where to start!

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        Hmm it depends on whether you are more into robots or space-travel.

        My own personal favorites are the four volumes of robots series:
        Caves of Steel
        Naked Sun
        Robots of Dawn
        Robots and Empire

        And there are lots and lots of robot short stories, or just futuristic ones, most of them very good.

        For non-robotic themes The Lucky Starr series is kind of a simple young adult space-travel series.
        Pebble in the Sky
        and
        Stars Like Dust
        are space-based too.

        There is a whole series named Foundation which Asimov later listed chronologically based on their story-lines, including most of other stories he had written. As a whole series it is quite daunting but each book can be read and enjoyed by itself.

        Now that I think more about it, I’m nearly certain that the best place to start is the short stories and the Lucky Starr series. It is better to get the high thoughts in smaller doses 😁😁

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Yes, I agree. 😩😕

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Dear D, is it possible to remove this huge photo of Seungri from the site? I do get it\’s just an ad, just that it\’s starting to get on my nerves. Sorry for complaining. πŸ™

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    Its so annoying….I thought I was the only one who felt bothered by it

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    Is there a reason for this complaint that I’m not understanding? Is it more annoying than the Lee Jong Suk eating chocolate one? To me they are just ads. I scroll down immediately.

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      Yeah, is there some problem with this guy or something? I don’t know much about him, but this is much better than the ad with the wrist grab that stayed up for days. The ads don’t come up very big on my page so maybe that’s why I’m not bothered by them?

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        Though I must confess, I just have to read the Donkey Milk Water Drop Cream every time! 😂😂😂 I don’t even know what it means but I lol every time!

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          Lol right?! I have no idea how they come up with this stuff!!! 😂😂😂

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      I never get the LJS eating chocolate one lol. At this point, I would even love to see a new ad. πŸ˜‰ Btw I know nothing about the guy so that’s not it. I’m also mentally bothered about something so that also could be the reason for the nagging. Sorry if that makes no sense.

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For me WWWSK just came and went without making any impact. I do feel bad for not being able to enjoy a show which apparently has created such a buzz here. Just too bad that I didn\’t feel much for the otp. πŸ™ #RegularKdramacomplications

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    You know.. honestly.. they were really cute, but I didn’t feel much for them? I cackled during the proposal. 🙈 The lyrics amused me..

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      I had to skip the proposal as soon as I saw her entering the house…way too cringy for my life!

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      I’m embarrassed to admit this bammsie, I haven’t followed anything after episode 1. 🙈🙈 Generally the main hook of a show for me is the OTP, [I keep saying this like a broken record], and here, both of them just didn’t click for me, and there was nothing different in terms of their relationship either. I was curious about what’s wrong with secretary Kim though lol. But seems like it was more the other way around. 😂 But yes, the secondary characters were hilarious.
      Forgot to add, it’s also fun to talk about the shows we didn’t like. 😂 You Beanies are awesome.

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        😂 Don’t be embarrassed! I watched the premiere episodes and thought it was fun, but I just never felt any emotional attachment, so I dropped it. But some Beanies were watching it on Rabbit, so I hopped in and laughed more at Beanie reactions to Ep 15 than the actual episode.

        Discussions ARE always fun! Whether we loved or hated, or are just meh on something. 😂

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          😂 😂 Yeah, the happiness discovering that people share your opinion. 😊😊

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    Same! I did care for the secondary characters, though! I FF the 2 final eps just to see their scenes and ignored the rest.

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      this was me too. i enjoyed the show well enough, but it didnt have that special x-factor for me. i was hoping for the kind of chemistry PMY had in Healer, I think, and while I love PSJ this just wasnt the same. BUT I did LOVE the secondary characters so so so much. i was all about Kim Ji-ah and Go Gwi-nam; Yoo-sik was always a delight; i wish i had more Secretary Soul mistakes too hahaha. So i had fun with it, but it wasnt the shining star to me that it seems it was to many others.

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        To be completely honest, I strongly disliked it. I was appalled by many things the characters said/did, and the moments that were meant to be romantic made me roll my eyes/gag a little lol. Shame, really, since I thought I’d be amazing.

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          i can understand that–there was definitely a lot of cringy moments. i had high hopes, too, when i first heard about this. i felt like both actors got stuck in roles that didnt let them showcase their best. and i felt like the whole “whats wrong with secretary kim” got lost early on. but i didn’t hate it, for all that. it was just another run-of-the-mill romcom to me, when i was hoping for something grander. (in related news–does it seem like lots of dramas lately have seemed promising and ended up disappointing? i cant remember feeling this repeatedly let down before.)

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            Hmm, apart from this one, I can’t think of a recent drama for which I had high hopes and ended up dropping or not liking it at all! Which ones have let you down these days?

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            @natzillagorilla (it wouldn’t let me reply to your comment, so i’ve done it this way) — maybe my expectations lately have been too high? i was pretty excited for “The Undateables” (granted, that’s just because NGM, but still) and “About Time” sounded so so so interesting…but both ended up feeling like a let down. 3WSK was definitely more enjoyable than either of those, to me, but still didn’t measure up to my expectations.

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            Ah, I see!
            I didn’t even try Undateables because I just can’t with Hwang Jung-eum.
            I only watched the 1st ep of About Time, and even though the story sounded promising, I wasn’t that invested so kind of forgot to watch ep 2 and then never got to it. I’ve heard it was pretty, pretty bad! I’m sorry those didn’t live up to your expectations πŸ™
            I’m thoroughly enjoying Life on Mars right now! From the new dramas, I liked the first eps of Still 17, and I’m watching Let’s Eat 3 so…hopefully no more let downs in the near future?

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          @natzillagorilla Lol I felt the same. I even made myself sit through the whole of episode 1, just because. Also maybe coming from my ahjussi, the whole theatrical approach made it worse. 😅

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      I liked the secondary characters too. Especially that lady in the office who acts like a hysteric lol. And PSJ’s friend was funny. From the GIFs and screenshots on fan wall, seems like they stayed awkward and hilarious till the end lol.
      Sadly this is the second PSJ drama that I skipped after fight my way. :S

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        The secondary character were eeeeverything in this drama! I’m sad they didn’t really get much time on screen πŸ™
        I haven’t watched Fight My Way! I don’t know why it doesn’t really catch my attention.

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    I have 4 episodes left and I have know motivation to finish and I have lost interest completely. I’m glad I’m not alone in “not feeling the buzz”

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Lol I kind of like how they are making these sister fights into a regular thing, I am warming up more to lee joo woo’s character than to baek jin hee though. Also plus for watching full house, I missed rain oppa’s voice!
Don’t understand the fuss around baek jin hee eating/faking to eat in a smaller portion? Can people tell whether she’s eating or faking it? :S Yoon Do Joon does seem to be enjoying his meals.

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    It’s completely the opposite for me! Can’t stand Lee Joo-woo’s character, but already warmed up to the rest of the cast.

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Oppa why did you end up being the biggest evil? T_T T_T
*I will miss you show.* Please come back with a new season.

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Thanks to the comments of @snarkyjellyfish on \”Life plan A and B\”, I watched all the 6 episodes in a row and wow, I\’m stunned. Didn\’t expect so much rawness, reality, from a drama. I don\’t think any other show can surpass the portayal of the struggles like this one (excepty my ahjussi) and it totally gutted me I must say. The love, the betrayal, expectations, failure, regret, insecurity, selfishness so many many emotions played out by rainie yang and the actor who played the boyfriend, I don\’t think I have the proper words to describe my emotions. I hated the boyfriend and how he kept pushing her and never ever supported her but this is like why everyone should watch this drama cause this is how life is in reality. Life will keep throwing us curve balls and people will say they love you but they only love themselves at the end. The torment of Lei ( sorry I don\’t remember her name) was so pulpable and I relate to her so much that at times I couldn\’t bear watching it anymore. But like the show says flowers will bloom again so it doesn\’t matter whether it\’s plan A or plan B. I am still a bit depressed from watching it but I still love the writer for this gem of a show. I still want to say a lot but I will stop the rant here lol. If anyone wants to discuss the show feel free to leave a comment. ^^

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    *portrayal

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    I liked everything about this show apart from the ending.

    *mega spoiler for people who haven’t watched it *

    Did she have to end up back with the other guy? Why did that young guy have to die? I would have preferred to have the other version of Rainie’s character to have stayed by herself and run her restaurant rather than have this ‘fairytale’ ending with some guy. Actually, I would have liked it if the other guy hadn’t died but she’d still been conflicted about the fact that he was so young or something.

    But – the rest of it I loved.

    Have you watched any other of the Q-series dramas? They all seem to focus on very different type of stories compared to the normal Taiwanese dramas.

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      I agree, of all three of the guys, I liked the younger restaurant boy the most. He was simple, honest, sweet, innocent and most importantly didn’t have any issues being with a career woman at a better status than him. I would also have loved the other girl to run the restaurant on her own than running to this other land with the dubious director. I still didn’t think he’s good for her. I don’t get why the younger guy had to die as well, probably implemented to bring more drama to the story but could have been done without. What she needed was someone who would love her without questioning her dreams or goals, and would also support her from the side. And considering how many issues the other guy had, at least I myself wouldn’t be comfortable around him.
      I also thought the original boyfriend was quite selfish. What right he had to tell her to not go to Shanghai since he can’t go? It was his dad, so understandable that he has responsibilities, but the girl didn’t have any ties with them as her colleague said, so it was unfair to blame it totally on her. So him saying that she abandoned him is completely untrue. From the start, I thought the guy needs to get his equations right.
      I haven’t watched any Taiwanese drama before but from the descriptions, they always seemed the sweet and fluffy types. This one was totally a different kind. I really loved how they showed the progression of an urban relationship and the choices, the burdens, the goals they have to deal with in this age. And damn, I didn’t know they have 3 more Q series! Would definitely check them out. Thank you Cloggie!

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        There are two more of that series that I would highly recommend: A Boy Named Flora A and Love Storm (Netflix titles). They are very different than Life Plan A and B – I have to warn you about that!

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          The synopsis of Love storm does sound interesting. I will definitely check both of them out since it’s part of the same series. Also kind of refreshing to see that the main topic of these dramas is not based on love? Which we don’t see a lot these days lol.

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            Well… Love Storm is about love really, and family I guess. Flora A is much more about family. The premise sounds weird but it’s very heart-warming

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            @cloggie I tried to watch love storm, but erm the younger brother is kind of nasty? :S Does it get better?

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            @fay17 you’ll find out he’s adorable, just in the throws of puberty hormones

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            Hahahaha. That explains.

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I don’t watch Chinese shows, but to refresh my memories of BOF, took a look and was surprised how much fun it was! Dao Ming Si is adorable and a stupid dork as go jun pyo, and he has been a dork since day 1 lol. Also, I love how their bickering plays off and how she is completely unaffected by his charms.

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I realized why I keep skipping dramas which have pretty actresses. I feel like I can\’t relate to them since their problems are different to a plain girl like mine. [I do relate more to plain or more average looking actresses, a habit that came from reading novels]. Sorry if that sounds petty lol.

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    Then you must skip a lot of dramas. I can’t think of a single drama (with female leads) that didn’t have any really pretty actors. Korean actors are almost always beautiful. What gets to me is when the male lead says the female character, played by a beautiful actress, isn’t pretty. I’m like β€˜just because you gave her a perm or some wacky outfits doesn’t change the fact that she’s a very beautiful woman!’ My side-eye game gets really strong in those moments and I absolutely can’t relate.

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      (Hmmph) WFKBJ is such a great example of this. Baggy outfits/jumpsuits/awkward hairdos could not change the fact that she was a gorgeous thin woman.

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        That’s the very reason why I couldn’t like this drama wholly. :S

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      Sorry I have been away for a while! Lol to answer your question, I do skip a lot of you know buzzworthy dramas like, ‘Because this is my first life’, or the current favorite ‘WWWSK’ or weight lifting fairy kim bok joo even, just cause I thought I didn’t know where the heroines were coming from. Like you said, when dramas are trying to tell a story of an average girl, and then pick an actress who is very attractive, has got impeccable features or is just plain charming, I can’t see why or how they fit the role, I also can’t kind of see past their prettiness if there isn’t anything in their personality which says otherwise. Like on WWWSK, park min young’s secretary is so perfect and she has even got the narcissistic boss who’s in head over heels over her.. it is kind of daunting for someone as unremarkable as me haha. Except for some actresses who do seem like their personality speaks more for themselves than their face, kdramas have mostly disappointed me. You will probably realize this more when I say my favorite actresses are gong hyo jin [who has a more quirky personality and her appeals lie mostly in how she works so well with the doormat type characters, like tae gong shil in Master’s sun , or Kim Go Eun, who although pretty but knows well how to portray someone like hong sul who’s a paranoid soul and tend to overthink about people around her.
      So yeah, perms or ugly outfits doesn’t make someone ugly, for example LSK as kim bok joo. So I cringed when the show tried to sell that a girl as skinny as LSK is an overweight weightlifter. :S
      My only favorite drama where a girl was comfortable in her own skin would be “my lovely kim sam soon”, Kim Sun Ah actually gained weight for this role, and had an adorable loveline with hyun bin.

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    She was ADORABLE!! and so was he. Truly, I loved that show and its skewed sense of humor.

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    you’ve seen Another Oh Hae Young right? πŸ˜‰

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      I only watched half of the show. Are you referring to something like how oh young couldn’t stand pretty people too? I think I have a vague memory of it. :S

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    I loved it! She is cute but still has some qualities which makes her a down to earth personality, you are right. Also a very good actress! The show was fun yep, also the chemistry between PBY and Park Hyung Shik was just perfect.

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Most understated romance drama and underappreciated one of this year. These two makes me squealll. 😊😊💞💞😍😍😍 Never in a million years would I have thought I would be liking L and go ara together this much. 😍😍 Please do a drama together sometime again.

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    Same.

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      😊😊😎😎 Don’t want to let this go. 😭😭

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        I even changed by avatar to L. I look forward to this drama every Monday.

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          Oh yes you did! Me too! This is the only one of the whole bunch that I think I look forward to the most. Can’t believe we only have 3 more episodes left. :'(

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    I’ve been so pleasantly surprised by both of them! They really fit their roles here, this team should work together again! (Actors, directors, writers) 😊😊

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      Totally! The director, actors, the plot. The writer is the most awesome one since he made all these characters/personalities come alive. Such a fresh, honest portrayal of laws and corruption and how it works in real life. And how perfect it is that we get to see the side romances as well in between the anecdotes.
      And I must add, L has the most gorgeous eyes. And I keep saying, I won’t ship them. 😍😍🙈

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    This is making me pick it back up again…..I feel sorry for dropping it now and I really love the drama…..

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      I dropped it too but then picked it up from episode 6 and it has been a wonderful ride this time around hehe, up to episode 13. I think you would love it too. This one is best when we are binge watching it. The break in each week really interrupts the attention span.

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    Fayyyyy! Isn’t it simply wonderful? I love how quietly beautiful everything about this drama is.

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      It really is bammsie! I love the quietness too, the expressions they keep giving to each other, the times when they’re trying hard to act like they are not affected by each other lol. And how different their story is from the usual kdramas. Like a guy who is annoyed by everything the girl does, but still does his best to stay next to her, challenge her, help her and at the same time he has his own morals. I love the pessimistic Im Ba Reun haha.

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        Yessss! Where can I find one? I love how it didn’t go from “rolling eyes” to “mooning all over the place”. They’re not necessarily mutually exclusive. XD The whole thing just feels very realistic and raw and beautiful, from the characters to the stories.

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          Exactly. They have different goals and objectives but still they try to come to a middle ground to solve the problems. Haha and yeah I also love how they didn’t go the melodrama route, ever. Like if you have seen the latest episodes, [*sorry if this is a spoiler :S] Im Ba Reun went to yong joon sunbae and even tried to pull off the noble idiot move for the sake of Park Cha Reum, but fortunately at the last moment, he probably realized the futility of it. πŸ˜€

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    I wasn’t watching Ms. Hammurabi but I searched up this episode just to catch this scene :’D

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      Hahahaha. Lol you still should try watching from the first. πŸ˜€

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I started watching “Full house”, coming from ‘Sketch’, was thinking that I haven’t seen him in anything for a while, surprisingly I am starting to see uncanny similarity between SHK and Lee Sun Bin.:S

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    I always thought they are a bit alike!

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      I haven’t watched SHK in anything before, so first time noticing this!

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    I haven’t been able to watch her biggest hit, DOTS, military romance isn’t just something up my alley. Also “that winter the wind blows” was based on faux siblings trope, which again wasn’t much interesting. :S Hoping to see her in a mindblowing role next time.

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    She knows Chinese too? Woah. I’m going to check it out. Thanks for the name!

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I am watching ‘Full house’ just cause I need my romcoms, and sadly none of the current crops have been captivating enough for me. While song hye kyo is really really funny and annoying, but I can’t with Rain oppa’s atrocious costumes. Like really those weird tees and bellbottom pants and colorful shirts? Who has been dressing him up and that awful hairstyle? I mean it was 2004, not 1994 for God’s sake. 😂😂

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State of mind* Wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it, right is right even if no one is doing it. T_T

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