Beanie level: Errand boy

I like Ha Suk Jin but his Jin is pathetic character in When I was Most Beautiful…Ye Ji doesn’t deserve emotional abuse like this

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    I mean he really is hell bent on making life miserable for Ye Ji….Ye Ji needs to see a therapist, the amount of emotional abuse she puts up with is not worth it, especially not in a marriage……..just dump both the guy, move to someplace far away from them and don’t ever look back

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Forcing your feelings on your sister in law who has drawn a line thousand times over isn’t cute, romantic or appropriate, cutting out your family and then believing nasty rumor about them isn’t either

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Hwan is awful….yes, he lost his ability to walk but that doesn’t excuse him, Jin isn’t doing to well for himself either…Ye Ji should just leave their house and start over #WhenIwastheMostBeautiful

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    I only made it a couple episodes before dropping and wanted the female lead to get away from both of them. Sounds like things haven’t improved.

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Scene/Dialogue (9/10)….this is why I don’t find Hye Joon realistic. He seems awfully idealistic for a person who has spent years in the industry, modelling industry at that. He seems almost blissfully unaware of competitive nature of the industry and is too principled that what he can afford to be. This is fine if he was a newbie, he isn’t so how exactly do the PD thought it was good idea to make him like this.
MJ: You are not ambitious enough!
HJ: My God, this again. Why don’t you make a song out of it?
MJ: Lets get serious for a minute. I am talking about the direction my agency should take.
HJ: Go ahead.
MJ: The present shows a small glimpse of your future. The present will be your future.
HJ: Isn’t that forcing it.
MJ: No, If you don’t change now, your future won’t change. I like your honesty and innocence, but you can’t defeat others with that.
HJ: Why must I do that? I am only competing with myself. I’ll win against myself. (Reaction: 4 eye rolls)
MJ; Why would you compete against yourself? Why would you punch yourself? If you get hurt, who pays your bills? It doesn’t make sense.
HJ: You have a point there.
MJ: Yes, I do. You’re supposed to compete against other people.
HJ: But I don’t want to trample on others to win.
MJ: You don’t hate competing, you won’t even start because you are scared of falling behind.
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This scene was good and I was with mom up until this dialogue came forward, Hye Joon is not a baby, your job is raise him till he is adult, to support him and let him fend for himself after that, not coddle him till he is 60….there’s supporting your son and then there’s enabling him to the point where he becomes completely incapable of relying on himself……She made two very solid points and a whole lot more nonsensical points here (6/10, dialogues, 7/10 premise)
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Record of Youth: The dialogues on episode 4 were well written but its hard to take them seriously when the premise is unimaginative and dated……Exhibit A: Dialogue score: 9/10 – Hae Hyo’s mom bringing Hae Hyo back to planet earth without nonsense, harsh words and with some much needed dose of reality Premise for the dialogue (2/10) – Unrealistic: if the salon serves celebrities, it’s a rule of thumb to never make personal comments or take a jibe, you’d loose your job on spot
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Also, Classical music is a lot about practicing, even more than talent at times…I know that doesn\’t make for a good drama but it would be good to recognize that once in a while #DoYouLikeBrahms

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I wanted to tightly slap Jung Kyung right across her face, that how disgusted I was by her little speech after the talk concert …no, people are not toys that you pick up and throw away at your whim, her misery does not give her to treat people with such cavalier attitude and relationships between friends should be treated with respect and kindness…Just no, lady no #DoYouLikeBrahms

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    lol.. my bigger question is that what exactly is her misery?

    A grandmother who dotes on you.. the uncle or was it her father being concerned of her plans for future? A boyfriend so irrevocably in love with him, a friend who cared (cares) so so deeply for her? being rich? everyone kowtowing to her?

    many people have lost their mothers.. or whole families.. or brought up without a real family.. and they don’t have her luxuries..

    This character.. it is just that she is not world famous..and she is feeling inferior, jealous, envious (even of that 19 yr old who played at auditorium)… she cannot make a good teacher, she would sabotage her own student if she starts feeling jealous

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      I understand how she feels…she feels constantly inferior at not having reached her potential despite all the best means available to her and also, her mother’s death is a point of unresolved emotion for her but it hardly means she gets a free pass at just treating people like the way she does. I don’t think what she feels for both the guy is love, she thinks that will resolve some parts of her issues. But it is selfish to toy with others for your own means that way.

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Since a whole lot of us are enjoying, Do you Like Brahms……here’s a piece of classical violin solo that is my favorite…Ernst’s “The Last Rose of Summer”, This is based on a variations on the Irish folk melody of Thomas Moore’s poem of the same name …Ernst composed it when his health was in decline and he could no longer perform.
This is the poem; I hope you all enjoy this.

‘Tis the last rose of summer,
Left blooming alone;
All her lovely companions
Are faded and gone;
No flower of her kindred,
No rose-bud is nigh,
To reflect back her blushes
Or give sigh for sigh!

I’ll not leave thee, thou lone one.
To pine on the stem;
Since the lovely are sleeping,
Go, sleep thou with them;
Thus kindly I scatter
Thy leaves o’er the bed,
Where thy mates of the garden
Lie scentless and dead.

So soon may I follow,
When friendships decay,
And from love’s shining circle
The gems drop away!
When true hearts lie wither’d,
And fond ones are flown,
Oh! who would inhabit
This bleak world alone?

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I just realized not many dramas have a homogenous mixture of male, female protagonist..its always a Harry, Ron and Hermione situation…and there\’s always pairing up..are there any exceptions to this?

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    I think shows where women are the main characters give equal importance to their male counterparts too. The likes of Age of Youth, Be Melodramatic. Otherwise in rom coms, the second male lead is given more importance than the second female lead. And thrillers just have that one female character for convenience or maybe to force a love line.

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    There are some rom-coms which have even gender mixes for the leads, but there will still be pairing off. I can think of a few where the women outnumber the men and there isn’t any fighting over male lead, but there may still be a triangle but it was not the focus/fizzled out fast.

    Secret Life of My Secretary – rom-com but no triangle, two totally separate couples.

    One More Happy Ending – 4 female best friends dealing with different types of romantic relationships, female lead/male lead do have a triangle with 2ML, but it’s resolved halfway through the drama since ML/2ML are best friends and they value their friendship which was a nice change to see. Also, this drama has one of my favorite female friend groups ever.

    Be Melo, Age of Youth, 20th Century Boy and Girl, Because It’s Our First Time, Ex-Girlfriend Club, Matrimonial Chaos, Just Dance, Weightlifting Fairy, Fight My Way – all are romances/rom-coms where female characters equal or outnumber male, no/barely relevant triangles, more focus on relationships in general. I think the key is finding dramas that are more slice-of-life than pure romance/rom-com in order to find more equal division of the sexes.

    Some great melos also have good female/male balance, like Just Between Lovers, Twelve Nights, When the Weather is Fine, but those are more healing dramas.

    If you go outside melo/romance/rom-com I think it gets harder – most procedural dramas are going to be cop heavy, so more male characters, but then there are rarely triangles. If you go more action, you may get a balance of male/female but the female characters may be the villain (which I personally love, like in Lawless Lawyer). Medical procedurals in American TV can be neutral/female heavy, but it feels like in dramas they are almost always going to have a romance. (I also don’t like this genre and can’t think of any that aren’t romances in some way.)

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    FL+ML+ second ML is a common setup, but there are loads of exceptions. @wapz and @snarkyjellyfish have already mentioned a bunch of really nice ones. Off the bat, I’m also thinking of:
    *Search:www: 3 main female characters, loads of sistermance, no triangles
    Rookie Historian Goo Haeryung: workplace sageuk (is that a thing? Yes, together with Haechi it is; two dramas make a genre 😋), spunky FL and cute romantic plotline that doesnt take over the drama
    *Park Minyoung is FL in several triangle-free romcoms: Healer, Her Private Life, I’ll go to you when the weather is nice. Any more?

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      I am keeping Sageuk’s off list…I think I should have mentioned clearly that are there any shows where there are heterogeneous mixture of people and it purely exploring the friendship and individual stories?

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Am I the only one that struggled with Record of Youth? It took me a few seating and fast forwards to get through the first episode… Bogum\’s excellent but episode 1 as a whole felt underwhelming

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    i thought i was the only one!!! I fast forwarded a lot of scenes :(( I agree that Bogum was excellent tho

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    I did not fast forward but I can totally see it moving in a boring direction.

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    Bogum was incredible but I did feel slightly underwhelmed. I wonder if it’s because there was so much hype?

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      Bogum was great but I can’t really relate to his struggles because his family seems to have some valid points ….wanting to make it in a field of your dreams is one thing and having like zero backup plan seems rather irresponsible…….I think the ages of the people in this drama is close to mine and I just found his aspirations way to unrealistic so there’s that but episode 2 really got interesting so I am sticking with it

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        Totally. Talked about the same thing on my fanwall. I haven’t watched Ep 2 yet, going to go do that now and then I’ll see where I stand!

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    Did you see Temperature of Love? The first episodes feel the same to me (and I loved the first episodes of that).

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      Yeah dropped it after episode 1 and never finished

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        It’s the same writer, so you probably won’t like this one then. Sorry.

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          Who knows, I did like episode 2 and I think they are heading in a nice direction as long as they keep it filled with Bogum and Sodam and less with others

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I am just loving the two in Do You Like Brahms, Joon Young and Song Ah are nice kids dealing with different struggles and are at different cross roads in their lives trying to figure out life

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    Okay, I am not sure what is up with Jung Kyung and I can’t really warm up to her. All I know is if the central theme is about people who express their truest self through music and then no two people are more suited to each other than Song Ah and Joon Young.

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Inspired by @purplesheesh …pairs I would like to see…so, 2 and 3 in Slice of life (Radiant Life, My Unfamiliar Family)and 1 and 4 in intense melodrama on par with Secret Love and Mask
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I am really liking premiere of Alice, it has a compelling story line with enough complexity set in place to make for a fun 16 episode ride, drama please be good till the end.

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Okay, Alice, I like what I\’ve seen so far….please keep it up till the end…lol…lets walk a flower path!

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I first saw Chadwick Boseman in 2014 biopic of James Brown…..long before he became T’Challa in Black Panther….a true rising star, raw talent and kind man gone too soon…rest in peace.

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    Rest in peace.
    Such a young life taken away.
    I have to say this: cancer sucks 🙁

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If Jung Hae In declines, then can we get Jang Dong Yoon and Kim Hye Yoon , also Jisoo in Snowdrop instead
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    Jang Dong-yoon is so pretty LOL. Hard to believe he’s 28 (although my guess is that his age in this picture is slightly younger).

    What’s this drama about?

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      Not a clue…he matches their age…I would prefer him for that reason

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    HECK yes

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So, Ae Jung is a PD who had no idea that are lead heroine walked out of the project, that\’s how messy Ae Jung\’s life is that she doesn\’t know what is happening in her own project….height of incompetency and Ryu JIn thinks Ah Rin should help make Ae Jung’s 14 year long dream come true, a dream towards the fulfillment of which she has made negligible effort #WasItLove I hope Ah Rin never looks back and just moves forward

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    I mean Ah Rin owes those 4 miserable love sick, good for nothing, waste of space, incompetent, unprofessional human beings an ounce of her time or effort…….so why should she care for them or their useless project…..I am glad she walked out, I hope she really does move on

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Thoughts and condolences for everybody in Beirut…Lebanese Beanies, I hope y\’all are safe 🙏🙏🙏

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I am frankly a bit annoyed at how the show is taking too much liberty in defining autism and anti-social personality…it has drifted into fiction a little bit too much

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    Where do you think they acted out of character? Aware there were liberties taken, but not too knowledgeable about the minute nuances

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      Sang Tae’s outburst…that was pure work of fiction….Moon Young shedding tears instead of jumping into one of her violent streak seeing Kang Tae in despair…again out of character…it made for good fiction…that’s it

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        I was actually expecting Moon-young to angrily step in and correct Sang-tae’s skewed notions.
        I did think Sang-tae’s outburst was unexpected, but like @meltingfrost I don’t know enough of the disorder to see what is out of chatacter.

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        Ahhh yes agreed, caught onto those two. I was shocked at MY because it seemed to be good portrayal so far, but at the same time was more forgiving of her tears because of something I read about ASPD. Apparently you can be born with the gene with no delinquent actions but child abuse/trauma can trigger it and exacerbate it. The implication was that you may be able to reduce ASPD symptoms to almost normal if you healed the trauma, which makes sense in light of MY’s situation. But again I could be wrong about that my knowledge is very limited in that respect and I may not have a full grasp of the condition just through that one study.
        ST though, again, definitely that was something else. Especially because what gets to me is that he was the one who left KT drowning in the lake, as we saw through MY’s eyes. Not sure what was even going on there, it doesn’t seem like just autism.

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