So ji sub is irresistible catnip!

That’s cool , how do you do it .

For me it’s the violent emotions.

hello @beantown. To be honest, I’ve been so disappointed with the result that I’ve stayed away from the recap and discussion to avoid a rant or a flame war. I saw that I was completely wrong in my estimation of this story as a love story, unless it was love of country, and I was completely wrong in my view of the love between Ae-shin and Eugene.

I completely saw that they had beautifully done death scenes, except for Eugene’s, whose was painfully pathetic. Hina, Dong Mae, and even Hui-sung had fitting tragic deaths, their sacrifice was enobling, and their loss was willingly given and meant something.

Eugene’s loss in the end meant nothing, and he didn’t have to die. That last scene with him was clearly his death scene. It didn’t show Eugene’s capabilities as a fighter at all. He could’ve shot out the coupling from Ae-shin’s car and left the Japanese in the tunnel. He could’ve forced them to jump off the train even before the tunnel. He could’ve stepped into their car as they entered the tunnel and killed them all in the dark, as he was already shown to be skilled in hand-to-hand combat, and taking his enemies weapon’s and using them to kill his other enemies. They didn’t even have to choreograph that fight scene. Just a set of muzzle flashes in the darkness of the tunnel, the sound of people dieing, maybe some sword or bayonet cuts, and Eugene still standing in the end. The fact it didn’t play out way left a lot of people I knew very dissatisfied with Eugene. A lot of them tweeted after that Eugene’s death scene, “what a herb.” That was absolutely not a compliment.

Once I realized that all the main supporting characters’ death scenes were conceived as exactly that, and not as people who were doing what they must do, still with the skill and intelligence that they had, and taking actions which inevitably led to their deaths, then I completely lost faith in the story.

Even Ae-shin living at the end, and becoming the great leader / trainer / commander, I objected to. If anything, I felt that part should’ve gone to the young cadet that wanted to kill Lee Wan-ik, that Eugene had trained, and who was helping organize the camp. Instead it went to Ae-shin, the “noble lady” who trained for the Righteous Army, because they had killed Queen Min.

There’s a lot more but I’m sure you get the gist of my objections. I’m gonna give it a few more days before I post anything there. I still do consider Mr. Sunshine as a work of art, well beyond Goblin or anything else I’ve seen on TV before, but it’s something that I don’t plan on ever seeing again, at least right now. My daughter of course disagees with me, and plans on buying it if it ever comes out on blu-ray. I guess I’ve just seen enough of invasion, resistance, slaughter, and historical whitewashing, revisionism, and repainting of heroes, to just never want to see it again.

Also, I wanted to thank you for giving me such informative, helpful, and thoughtful conversation on Dramabeans. I really enjoyed it.