Beanie level: Errand boy

With Itaewon Class going through a pacing slump last week, I am not as excited for this Friday and Saturday’s episodes. I suspect it might be just more of the same, and I am ever-so disenchanted, which SUCKS because I really really loved the 1st half of the show.

Not to worry because this gives me a chance to start two curent Kdramas that my fellow Beanies have been raving about: Hi Bye, Mama and Hyena !
Wish me luck!

6
3

    Prepare your kleenex with Hi Bye, Mama!
    There’s not one episode I haven’t cried.

    1
    0

    I actually really liked ep. 11 of IC. I thought it moved the story along at a faster clip plus showed more of a found family vibe in several ways (I’m a sucker for that).

    1
    1

Itaewon Class, ep. 11-12 in a nutshell:

Sae Ro-Yi learns that there is such a thing as healthy compromises. Toss some of that pride aside, boy! 🙌🏽

There may be no chance of a ship sailing, but Yi-seo’s heart will go on and on. Unabashedly in love. 🤗😘

Soo-Ah claims she had to bring that damn potted plant because Jangga’s President told her to but I think that was a really sh*t move on her part, regardless. Like, an inexcusable sh*t move. If you have a friend who does that, cut👏🏽them👏🏽off👏🏽.
#toxic 🐍☠️

Hyun-Yi is a Rock, a Diamond and she will not be moved * standing ovation *.💎💎💎

Seung-Kwon is a fiercely loyal friend. The way he’s always holding Toni’s hand and his unwavering support of Sae Ro Yi and Hyun-Yi. Bless him. 💖

Kim Toni is has wise words, full of compassion. And won the family jackpot! Like, can we talk about that? 😂🤑🤑🤑

Geun-Soo has reversed his jacket and I dislike his puppy-faced nepotism a** even more.😒

CEO Jang must pull his predictable vilain moves from a The Petty Textbook 101 for Entitled rags-to-riches Chaebols.😒🙄

11
1

    You summed both episodes up well and I agree. The first was painful……. but
    “Hyun-Yi is a Rock, a Diamond and she will not be moved * standing ovation *.💎💎💎”

    love LOVE what they did!!!! I was clapping and my eyes were more than damp at the end.

    2
    0

Saying it one more time and then I will officially log off Dramabeans for a bit:

The issue being debated is not Kim Toni’s passport, which, I am sure, states that he is Guinean.

The issue being discussed here is his ancestry. and if he says he’s (half) Korean, then that’s all that matters.

Is the officer right in asking him for identification to get a record for his father and grandmother’s whereabouts? ABSOLUTELY. It’s an official document request and proof of family lineage is required to obtain this information. Anyone, whether they looked Asian or not, would need to provide this information.

Is the bouncer right for asking for identification? Yes. Everyone is required to show ID before entering.

Are the club owners right for not wanting African or Arabs in their establishment? No. That is discriminatory and therefore racist.

Did Yi-Seo tell him he can obviously NOT be Korean, solely based on his skin colour? Yes. Is she in a place of authority to require him to prove his ancestry? No. Does one need to look like their ancestor to BE of that ancestry? No. Does one need to have ID to prove they are of a given ethnic background, whether 100% or half or a quarter? ABSOLUTELY NOT. If he says his dad is Korean, that’s it.

22
2

    I do appreciate the questions that arise from this drama. It’s refreshing to see social issues other than socioeconomics being addressed.

    6
    0

    I have been at work and haven’t looked at the comments in awhile. I hope you log back in when you feel ready.

    4
    0

Behold, the RECAP for Ep.8 of ITAEWON CLASS has arrived (YAY! Thank you, Sunny!) and, predictably enough, the subject of racism comes up.

To all those who seem to be “on the fence” or defending racist actions by enveloping it under the guise of sociopathy and “not knowing better” and “he says he’s Korean but he doesn’t look Korean and he doesn’t have a Korean ID”, good luck navigating life with those blindfolders.

Here’s a (long) article to express my weariness explaining racism, especially anti-Black racism:
https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/25/psychological-impact-constantly-explain-racism-12147969/

13
2

    Agreed (and I hope none of my previous comments were to this effect, because that was not my intent). I think that Yi-seo and the bouncer were absolutely racist and wrong in their assumptions, and there is no excuse for it. The only reason I ever bring up sociopathy in regard to Yi-seo is that while she may know better, she just doesn’t care. And that is in and of itself incredibly problematic but it’s also a totally different issue from her being racist, which she absolutely was (is?).

    5
    0

    The outright racism and subtle racism (emblems on clothing for example) in some K-dramas came as a shock to me. I’m glad this one is facing it head on for a change.

    5
    0

Shall we vote Yi-Seo (Itaewon Class) as being the Most Polarizing Character in the early 2020?

7
11

    Lol. But oh so fascinating. And I like (as long as it is civil) the discussions that pop up around her. I think the writer is using her in an interesting way.

    5
    2

      I might be the one rare person not facinated, lol.

      2
      1

        thus the “polarizing character” vote, dear Beanie. there are looots of people who don’t like Yi-Seo too.

        1
        1

          I am talking about people who say they don’t like her but still find her fascinating.

          0
          6

            Comment was deleted

            0
            0

            But you are probably right anyway.

            0
            0

            I do on the other hand sympathize a bit with her.

            0
            0

            A lot of my interest in her comes from wanting to know how the writer is going to use her. Also, just as a character study.

            1
            0

            @bcampbell1662 Seems like she is a bit different from the webtoon cause people are complaining about that.

            1
            0

            @amy1009 that is interesting. I was tempted to peek at spoilers, but decided to stay away.
            One of the ways I’m finding the show compelling is seeing how I instinctively react to a given situation, especially around Yi seo

            I’m still very interestedin Soo ah too.

            3
            0

      Yes I think so too. She is going to grow up the most of all the characters.
      So far I like how honest and forthright she is.

      3
      0

The lipsyncing in The Boy Next Door is literally the funniest thing I have watched in months. I was howling with laughter 😂😂🤣
O, how I wish there was a season 2, but of course, there is not.

9
0

YI-SEO… YI-SEO…! 😡😠😡

Rant and spoilers in the comments

3
7

    These last two eps….wow. I already said it but she was a tornado of destruction.
    Have you finished the ep?

    2
    2

      Comment was deleted

      0
      0

      Omg I juuuuuust finished the episode and whyyyyyyy is she in CEO Jang’s office????
      This smells of betrayals and fake outs and… 😡😡😡😡

      1
      0

    I yelled at my TV so much, my husband asked who I was talking to. Itaewon Class, no no no no no no!

    Let me explain: I am glad that the Show addressed the some of discrimination that Kim Toni faces. Not getting accepted into the club? I saw that turn out from a mile away! It was expected and what I was waiting for was the others’ reaction to this, which went well, except for our Fav Annoying Sociopath (more on that later).

    The issue: the discrimination is, in fact, within, and veiled as cuteness. Why would Kim Toni have to learn English????? Sae-ro-yi and the other knew damn well he didn’t speak English when they hired him and yet, because he’s Black, it’s expected that he should. To the point that they even have a meeting about it, for Toni to explain that he speaks fluent French instead. Like, isn’t THAT racist? Micro-aggression much?? And yes, I know, I know, it’s a Korean show and blah blah 99% homogeneous population, yadda yadda ya… It’s either you do or don’t. Having a Black character is not mandatory (clearly). They could have done without it, if they were not going to spare our poor Toni having to deal with micro-aggression at work that gets swept under the rug. The Show makes a big deal about Toni getting kicked out of the club but his colleagues asking him to learn English SPECIFICALLY because he’s Black? Let’s brush that off real quick, non ?

    As for you, Yi-seo… “You’re not Korean because you’re Black and you haven’t been naturalizer yet, but sure, I’ll help you find your grandma and your father, and that should brush off all my racists misgivings because the Show will make it look like it’s because I’m a sociopath and I don’t understand empathy for people I don’t love and I only love Sae-ro-yi, so it’s ok to help his people”?

    F**K that!

    I now see the sociopath traits that seemed sooo cute and bratty at first but now, yeah, glad she’s in therapy because the things she said and did to both Kim Toni and Geun Soo made me sooooooooooooo mad! The level of coldness and apathy… GAAAAAAH !

    4
    1

      I thought he did know English, this made me laugh at myself. He said he’d been in Korea only a year and I made the assumption that he was American. I guess I saw the meeting as cute (especially the hand holding) because I though that was why she hired him that she’d made the same assumption which is still problematic. But you are right why does he have to be the one to learn english now that they know he speaks French whic would also be a plus?

      So, that moment when she decides to help Kim Toni find his family. I had to turn it off because I thought it would be the same as the “Unnie”. That it would make it all better and to the team it did, but then I thought we are still supposed to see that nothing changed she is just acting to fit what she thinks Sae ro yi wants.
      Now I’m worried that we are supposed to see her sociopathic nature as a reason for it, and I really hope not.
      At this point in a show I’d expect to see glimpses of growth or a hidden better nature and instead we are getting the flip of that.

      There was a moment in that scene when Yi-seo is getting patted on the head and Geun-soo looks at her and i really hope i read that look correctly as him finally being over his crush.

      3
      1

        I like the show too much to even bother pretending that I’m gonna drop it over the microaggressions they are inflicting on my Toni. 😅😏

        it’s the “Unnie” issue again and yet, now that my eyes are clear and that I see Yi-Seo as the actual 69% sociopath that she said she was, her behaviour is indeed pretty consistent 😒😒😒. Still mad at her though.

        I actually thought Geun Soo would say something along the lines of “you know she’s only being nice because she likes SaeRoYi, right? She definitely didn’t mean that apology!”

        3
        1

          Yes, I’m looking at the “unnie” issue with new eyes. The way it was resolved seemed to pat and now I think it was supposed to seem that way to the viewers. The same with her making that post about the club and the crew are all happy with her. It was just framed a different way. At least I think this is what the writer wants us to see.

          1
          0

The Boy Next Door is hilarious! 😂😂

13
6

    Oh, it IS. I’ve seen it about five times now. I really want it to have a season 2 but the likelihood of these two actors doing a cheap web series is approximately zero.

    7
    0

    OMG thank you for pointing this my way, this is literally the kind of content I need rn! I love when the fanwall does its magic.

    I’ve just watched a bit of it and I couldn’t stop cackling!!!
    They have now completely ruined Urban Zakapa’s “I don’t love you” for me, which I’d never been able to listen to without my heart breaking.
    But I don’t think I’ll ever not laugh upon hearing it now. 😂😂😂

    I’ll make sure to finish this in the very near future

    4
    2

    so much laughs with that one 🤣🤣🤣

    2
    0

When Kim Tony walks in, speaking perfect Korean. I love love love seeing my people in Korean Shows!
#ItaewonClass #justOnTimeForBlackHistoryMonth
👊🏼👊🏽👊🏾👊🏿💕🤗

6
0

Itaewon Class is gonna make me write novels in the comment section, I love it so much.
http://www.dramabeans.com/2020/02/itaewon-class-episode-5/#comment-3619838
(one of my longest DB posts ever)

3
0

Unfortunate and unpopular opinion: I ffwd\’d thru most of ep.15&16 of CLOY, except for the North Korea scenes (Dan\’s mom is AWESOME!!) and the Ducklings.

I wish I could have loved this show as much as everyone else on DB did (I love being in sync with the general population on here), but… I blame my disinterest on the incessant goodbyes/near-deaths and the Emotional Tax the Writers put on each and every one of them. They really took a toll on me, and after the 1st few, I simply lost the connection with an otherwise cute (albeit overly-chaste) couple. * sigh *

I really only finished this show for the year end Beanie count. Ha!

12
15

    I gave up for just the reasons you stated.

    3
    0

    Still stuck on ep 12… I’ve figured that now that I’ve spoiled myself, I might as well wait until it’s available in my Netflix region and at least watch it in HD (I suspect that watching it pixelated on a dodgy site might also explain my loss of interest… one of the things this drama has is its beautiful cinematography)

    2
    2

      I must agree, the scenery is stunning, especially in Switzerland

      3
      0

      while I absolutely gobbled ep12 with a big spoon, I loved it so much — the episodes that followed were painful and I spent a lot of time playing a game of DOTS on my phone while half-watching. Then I fastforwarded through ep.15 and 16 like a savage.

      0
      0

    Totally agree on the Emotional Tax point!

    3
    0

    Dan’s mum was the best part of the show.
    In the last episode she was THE BEST.
    Ducklings were fantastic too, as well as hens.
    And as much as I liked the OTP, my heart was with SeungJoo and Dan.
    Now, you can imagine how my heart is.
    I also FF a lot, specially the last episode (mainly because I was waiting for the Spanish subs, they didn’t arrive, I began to read comments on the Beanie Fan Wall, I didn’t want to be spoiled, so I went with English subs, and by that time it was 10 pm, and on Monday I had to wake up really early).

    4
    1

      I feel for your poor heart. Seung Joo and Dan were, indeed, a lot more interesting to watch than our main almost-platonic OTP.

      2
      0

    I don’t think it’s an unpopular opinion. I think the first half was solid. Yes, cheesy but solid.

    The second half when they moved to Seoul was excruciatingly boring and over the top cheesy. In the end I only cared for Dan, her mom (The actress is truly gifted) and the Ducklings.

    8
    1

      The way the Fanwall is gushing about the ending and after reading an article claiming the Show had surpassed Goblin in viewership and/or adoring fans, I truly felt like this was an unpopular opinion. oh well, glad to have companion in the not-impressed seats with me!

      1
      0

    Many of us felt the same way.. After enduring (yes, thats the word) the last 2 epsiodes @13infamyss pointed out that CLOY was in last years bean count!!! not this years..

    The show started off great – It was wacky, a great set up, had fantastic humor, amazing secondary characters and saw some good emotional connect between the leads. I was rooting for them.
    And then it ran out of content. We had extended teary farewells, multiple fake deaths, even the villian didnt die, no progress with OTP relationship etc. And whats worse the episodes were brutally long. Towards the end I didn’t care of the OTP got together or not. I was exhausted.
    And then they had to do this to Gu and Dan. bad writers. bad.

    1
    1

      brutally long is indeed a good way to describe the episode length. like, whyyyyyyyyyyy?!?!?!?!?!

      2
      0

    I also finished it for the sake of that 1 bean, and because I have no other k-drama I watched at the moment. Also, I do think the super long duration for each eps didn’t help make the story any more interesting.

    2
    0

    I think i love this show for the same reasons everyone kinda hate it. Like how i cheer when i saw the duration of the last episode is almost 2 hours 😂. But i can see why it could be off-putting for others. I guess that’s just the beauty of drama watching and thank goodness we have many other options that caters to each and everyone’s taste.

    2
    0

    erghhh I can’t believe i avoided the fanwall for 4 days only to find there was nothing to spoil except for the unfortunate demise of Seung Joo. Beautiful as it was, ep 15-16 was really boring (other than ducklings/mum+uncle/ahjummas like everyone agrees). CLOY really could have done it all in 12 episodes. And i’m glad i’m not the only one who feels the same way as the unpopular opinion..sobs..

    One more thing, I kept thinking of Vagabond while watching the finale..esp the scenes w NIS..obviously there had to be some suspension of disbelief while watching CLOY but it really was getting too much in 15/16.

    1
    0

    Same reason I haven’t watched it since ep10! Though I will most definately finish it sometime all for the bean!!

    1
    0

CLOY: Dan\’s mom is honestly the best \”almost mother-in-law\” ever. I love how protective she is of her daughter. 💖💕❤️🤗

17
1

    Best character of the whole drama. I love her so much. She is a real mum, who cares for her daughter and nothing more. She tells Dan: we can cry and mourn together, and then to HJ’s mum, the she has to cancel the engagement because her daughter loves another man. I cried rivers in that scene. She was only thinking about Dan. Oh, she was just amazing.

    3
    0

It\’s almost 4:30am and I just finished binge watching all 6 eps of ITAEWON CLASS. I have zero regrets. I want moooore!
🥴😣😆😆

7
4

    At the end I was shouting “Yes! Yes! Yes!” And the preview looks more amazing. Didn’t someone complaining about not knowing about those 8 years? Soon 😁

    2
    1

      riiight?!?! I love it! Can’t wait to see how cold that payback will be on that snooty insecure Geun-Won and his overly authoritative & abusive daddy CEO Jang!

      Side note: actor Yoo Jae Mung is amazing. morphing so completely into CEO Jang’s character and to be sooo unlikeable and yet so enigmatic… * applauds * I mean, he was the affable dad in Strong Woman Do Bong-Soon! He was our favourite martyr doctor in LIFE !! and now: heinous business man. bravo!

      1
      1

        Oh, he was that amazingly loving dad! He looks so old here!!! Some actors are supercalifragilistic👏

        1
        1

          …exceptionally delicious (espriallydoucious sounds little bit like that 😉)

          1
          0
4
3

    Good for him.

    2
    0

    I’m still shocked by how this is somehow something to hide.
    It’s such a natural thing.
    Love is the most natural thing, as having a baby is.

    3
    1

      riiiiight!?!? I am baffled.
      I know it’s a different culture but gosh, can an entertainer have a life?!?! (recalling the outrageous crazy-fan backlash over an EXO member dating a few weeks ago)

      2
      0

The ending of STOVE LEAGUE ep.13:
I WAS SQUEEAAAALING!!! YEEEEESS! Go, Dreams, GO!!!

6
0

When you find other African Beanies and stalk their FanWalls and their all-too-relatable content. J\’adore!
#BlackHistoryMonth #MulticulturalBeanies

18
0

Episode 12 of CLOY was the funniest of the entire show.
Brilliant use of the fish-out-of-water trope. I had a really good laugh!

7
2

    The ducklings are precious!

    2
    1

      the first 30mins of the show, with all the missed-chances-of-meeting, was absolutely hilarious.

      2
      0

Joining my Beanies on this
Day 4, Love, February

I would wear make-up for you;
You\’d say it\’s a mask and take it off.
I\’d dress up, doll up, to the nines for you;
You\’d say it was just an armor,
Gently fold it away and touch my naked skin.
.

I\’d dance for you,
Twirl and twerk, hip & hop;
A soft caress of yours would calm the hype,
And we\’d be back to being spoons,
Quietly laying on my couch.
.

To you, my flaws are but trivial;
\”Oh that?\” you\’d say with an eyeroll,
And kiss my lips, lift your shirt
And we\’d laugh at how perfectly
Imperfect we both are in our awesomeness.
.

Anger, sadness are passing moments with you;
Love love laughter and love
Are the k constant
To the physics equation that makes
Our chemistry explosive.
.

With you, I admit I\’m wrong,
Albeit reluctantly but
It\’d always feel good and right;
To give in,
Just to be given so much more.
.

With you…

Love, February
(I wrote this almost 4 years ago)

32
2

Oh SOOMPI, you know me all too well !
* beaming *
(don’t judge me. A married woman can dream…)

11
0

YES! Park Seo Joon from “A Witch’s Romance!!!!
* does a silent/awkward happy dance at work desk *

10
3