Beanie level: Entertainer-in-training

RESET: Thriller, Sci-Fi C-drama.
I’m giving it a shot for the writer of “Nirvana in Fire” and my girl Liu Tao.

Trailer sub@viki

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    Wow. I’m stressed by just watching this trailer.

    Also, I couldn’t help but notice the use of Pachelbel’s Canon to its full creepy effect. 😂(For classical musicians, being asked to play Pachelbel’s Canon is like being stuck in a terrible time loop).

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      My mom loved the Canon and I found her an LP entitled “Pachelbel’s Greatest Hit” that was just multiple versions of it.

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        Oh, it’s a beautiful piece, but I’m still traumatized by being asked to play the cello/continuo part. It’s literally the same 8 chords over and over again.

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      I knew you’d say something about it :).
      I didn’t appreciate classical music until “Secret Love Affair” came along. I’m still a noobie, and I’ve only listened to the Trans Siberian Orchestra’s version.

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    Yay join us. It’s the talk of the town these days in cdramaland but I’ve only seen @dorotka and @peony watching it here.

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      I’ve been waiting for it to finish airing before I binge! Hopefully this week 🤞

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      Yay for more RESET beanies.

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    I’ve been waiting for it to finish airing in order to binge it. Heard nothing but great things so far so my anticipation keeps rising.

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THE BOOK of BOBA FETT.
@kathia, @eazal, @astrojoy
Are you guys watching?
I love it and Wednesday is my favorite day of the week now.

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    Not yet! But I’ve heard good things about episode 2.

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      I stayed up till midnight to watch it, and it was worth it. 😃

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    I caught some of it with my hubby—but it was a non-speaking, standing around, making some crazy spear weapon that doubles as a cool looking cane, part. And he wasn’t interested in explaining to me what the heck was going on. 😂

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      There is so much related to the star wars universe, and I hope your hubby will explain them to you.
      I’m still learning and like watching sageuks; I want to know the background history behind the characters, so I appreciate the pilot episode.
      My current fave is the Tusken Raiders. I find them fascinating.

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    Not yet!! I have to update my subscription. I will watch and tell you. Can’t wait!!

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THE RED SLEEVE: Episode 7.

Double-digits baby! 10.7%.
4.3% more to go.

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THE RED SLEEVE: Episode 7 Preview.

Did he propose or not?

Timeline: Somewhere between 1773-1776 (rough calculation based on history).
If San proposed about 3 times to Deok Im and waited for around 10 years, we should be expecting the first proposal soon.

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THE RED SLEEVE: EPS 1 – Crown Prince Sado, who died as a sinner. (Part 1)
(Viki’s sub).

SCENE: Yi San sneaking out to pay his last respect to his biological grandmother Royal Noble Consort Yeong.
FLASHBACK: San and his grandfather King Yeongjo inside the palace.

King: Do you want to see Concubine Yeong?
San: I heard her illness is very advanced.
King: San-ah, as your grandfather. I really appreciate your compassion. But, what can I do? You can no longer see her as easily as you used to.
San: I implore you, Grandfather, Royal Concubine Yeong was still my grand–
Angry king: If she was your biological grandmother, is the now-deceased Crown Prince your father? Crown Prince Sado who died as a sinner?
If he was your father then you’ll have to live the rest of your life as a sinner.
San: No, that’s not true Grandfather. I’ll never again ask you to let me see Royal Concubine Yeong.
I ask you to please forgive me.

History – (from The Memoirs of Lady Hyegyeong).

Prince Sado’s bizarre execution by his father was an attempt to avoid the appearance of a criminal execution, which would, under the Joseon custom, have required punishment of his entire family. Sado’s son, the only remaining heir to the throne, would have likewise borne the stigma of criminality, something the Joseon court could not afford.

In 1764, to lessen the impact of the incident of Prince Sado on Jeongjo’s (Yi San) legitimacy, King Yeongjo made Jeongjo a posthumously adopted son of Prince Hyojang, the deceased older brother of Prince Sado. This measure legally severed Jeongjo (Yi San) from Prince Sado; it meant that Jeongjo (Yi San) was not in any legal sense the son of one who might be called a criminal. Despite these benefits, the adoption made an already delicate issue far more complex.

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    Soo it sounds to me like Yeongjo wanted to publicly and criminally execute his son (or was forced to do so?) but he didn’t want to implicate his grandson, so starving Sado in a rice chest was his workaround. I was discussing about Sado’s execution with dramalover4ever the other day and we both thought that there are better ways to secretly get rid of Sado without implicating his family. So yes, like you said, “bizarre” is such an apt way to describe the whole story.

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      Pretty much.
      There is so much in the background that the drama does not have time to explain. The decision was not made by Yeongjo alone, but since he is the king, he made the last call, and it went down in history as the father who killed his son.
      Sado’s mother was involved out of concern for her grandson, daughter in law and those around him. His father-in-law, who suggested to Yeongjo to put his son inside a rice chest and provide it himself, was also involved. Yeongjo’s political supporters (the Norons) who put him on the throne were also involved.
      Yeongjo was an illegitimate son of a water maid without political support, so he, out of loyalty, took them seriously.

      There is also the question of mental illness and the lives that Sado took and would continue to take if they didn’t do anything about it.
      Sadly, mental illness and back then was not looked upon with understanding and empathy as we do now. It was probably seen as a curse since treatment was lacking.

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THE RED SLEEVE: EPS 1 – First Meeting Between King Yeongjo and Deok Im.

History is the biggest spoiler of traditional sageuks, so I’m trying to follow mainly what is revealed in the drama and link the rest with more info and possible spoilers.

PLACE: Royal Concubine Yeong’s resident.
TIMELINE: 1764.
BRIEF BACKGROUND: Royal Noble Consort Yeong of the Jeonui Yi clan: (15 August 1696 — 23 August 1764). (from Wikipedia and @viki’s sub)
She entered the palace at age 6 and became a concubine at age 31. She is most well known for advising Yeongjo to execute their son, as the latter suffered from serious mental illnesses.

Yi San (flashback) – Grandmother, did you really tell grandfather to have my father killed? Is it true?
Yeong – Yes, Your Highness.
San – You are my father’s own mother. What kind of mother kills her own son? My father is dead because of you. How do you call yourself a mother?….
If I become like father, will you leave me too?
Yeong- Your grandmother killed your father. I never sought your forgiveness. Everything is grandmother’s fault. My poor grandson, I don’t deserve your forgiveness.

KING YEONGJO and young DEOK IM

King: Raise your face.
You look like PRINCESS HWAHYEOP (meaning harmony) when she was little.
 Come here.
That person (Royal Consort Yeong) went through great lengths for me and our future. But now, I can’t even stay by her side in death. No king has ever attended a concubine’s burial. How cruel is that? What do you think?
Deok Im: Your Majesty is right.
King: is that so? 
Deok Im: *nod* Your Majesty is certainly right! 
King: Even a young attendant like you know loyalty.
She used to be beautiful in her younger days. She used to be a lady of the court like you.
Her sleeves were so very red. Every time I saw her, my heart ached so much. Why did it hurt?
When court ladies dye their sleeves red, it shows that they are the king’s ladies. At the time, I was just a lowly prince born from a concubine. I never dared to dream. But, as time passed. I received God’s will and became a king. I was awarded the crown, and she came along with it. I deluded myself into thinking I could do anything I wanted in this world.
Deok Im: Why was that a delusion? Since you are the king, can you not do anything you want?
King: Do you know how many things a king can not control? You would be stunned when you eventually find out. …
Even Ice can’t be colder than my heart. … I finally lost her. Now… she won’t ever come back.
It’s fate that we meet tonight. I will grant you a special Imperial gift. Let’s see… Let me ask you… What kind of court lady do you wish to be?
 Deok Im: I want…to become a court lady who writes well.
King: Do you want to be a good writer? Here, take this. “Yeo Beom: A Buddhist Priest Sins With a Woman.” Royal Concubine Yeong wrote this book herself. 
Deok Im: Can I receive such a precious book?
King: Tonight, fate brought you here. Ah… did you say you were one of the Crown Prince’s young ladies? 
You never know. Your fate might turn out the same as the owner of the book.

ROYAL CONSORT YEONG and KING YEONGJO’s CHILDREN:
1. Princess Hwapyong (27 April 1727 – 24 June 1748) (화평옹주), third daughter.
2. Fourth daughter (3 August 1728 – 18 February 1731).
3. Fifth daughter (12 December 1729 – 21 March 1731).
4. Sixth daughter (1 January 1732 – 12 April 1736).
5. Princess Hwahyeop (7 March 1733 – 27 November 1752) (화협옹주), seventh daughter.
6. Yi Seon, Crown Prince Sado (13 February 1735 – 12 July 1762) (이선 사도세자), second son.
7. Princess Hwawan (9 March 1738 – 17 May 1808) (화완옹주), ninth daughter.

King Yeongjo of Joseon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeongjo_of_Joseon
Royal Consort Yeong
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Noble_Consort_Yeongbin_Yi

PART 2: To be continued..”The King’s Favorite Daughter, PRINCESS HWAHYEOP.”

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    And there you have, ladies and gentlemen. King Yeongjo is a shipper and spoiler. 😂

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    Wow Royal Noble Consort Yeong had quite a few children but most of them die young, her only son died tragically, and only her last daughter outlived her. I feel bad for her 🙁

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      The ambitious one outlived her. Had Princess Hwahyeop lived longer, she may have saved San’s father, Sado, from Yeongjo’s wrath but I don’t know it would be enough when his political party (Noron faction) got involved.

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    Correction PRINCESS HWAPYEONG not PRINCESS HWAHYEOP.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Hwapyeong

    Princess Hwahyeop
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Hwahyeop

    The names are almost similar; I’m easily confused. Don’t get me started on San’s sisters.

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      PART 2 -EPS 3: The King’s Favorite, Princess Hwapyeong.”

      Deok Im: Your Majesty. Please take pity on me. Please spare my-
      King: Hey, hey, I’m not killing you. I won’t kill you, so settle down. I never had any intention of it. I just wanted to scare this fearless court lady.
      You are very much like my late daughter. You remind me of Princess Hwapyeong. How could I ever kill you?

      For the 2nd time, the king tells Deok Im that she reminds him of his daughter.

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THE RED SLEEVE:
This show makes me very anxious.😰 I can’t wait to geek out.
Most of us don’t have access to the novel, so a sneak peek from the lead actors is here with the English sub.
(From JLML718’s 2PM Blog).
https://jlml718.home.blog/2021/11/08/eng-sub-2pm-junho-2021-11-05-the-red-sleeve-novel-reading-session/

Since we don’t have a recap, Mimi’s blog would be the best place to read up on the show and the history behind it.
First Impression:

https://thetalkingcupboard.com/2021/11/13/the-red-sleeve-first-impression/

Notes and Historical Stuff: Eps 1 and 2.

https://thetalkingcupboard.com/2021/11/17/the-red-sleeve-notes-and-historical-stuff/

Pic- It’s interesting that Jun-ho is left-handed but writes with his right hand and eats with his left hand.  His character, Yi-san was right-handed.

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    Ohh thanks for all this complentary information.

    Also, this is why I admire Junho as an actor. He was practicing how to eat with his left hand since a few months ago to play Yi-san. I haven’t watched episode three yet but I’m waiting for a scene of him eating.

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    Thanks for these!

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    JLML posted some more impressions about the novel on her IG account, if you want to take a look.
    I asked her (for the sake of science) that kept on reading as she said she stopped by page 80 because she didn’t want to spoil herself.

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      Nice. I read that the author was only 17 years old when she started writing the novel.

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        I want to be impressed but mostly that’s a little concerning without more context. When did she finish it? Unless she spent 10 years writing it (I mean, my main wips I all “started” before 20 too technically), or is a writing prodigy that’s not the claim most think it is 😂

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          She was in her mid to late 20s when she was done, I believe. I don’t think it’s a case of writing parody. I’m not that impressed with Deok Im’s character. It does feel like teenagers interpretations from the 21st century. Maybe I’m too harsh since this is not the first time I’ve seen a sageuk about her life.

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            Ah okay. That’s probably a bit more normal of a time period to write a book.

            I think I can see where you’re coming from in that criticism.
            I think it’s done to establish a connection between them but it’s almost quite modern in characteristion and execution of that, isn’t it?
            Probably fortunately for me I have nothing to compare it to.

            Except more immediately, the other sagueks airing, and well… I dropped King’s Affection so that’s how that’s going 🙄.

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            *Sigh* I need to read my post before clicking send. My prodigy comment didn’t make any sense on top of misspelling it.
            I don’t know what the real Deok Im’s talents were. In another sageuk (YI SAN), she was a talented artist, making me think that there were no records of her youth, just like most commoner women of that era.

            Holy cow, girl, how many dramas have you dropped this year?

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            I understood you, don’t worry haha.
            I like at least that she was given the talent of impeccable calligraphy and handwriting haha I think that’s a cool trait hehe

            … I… do you really want to know the answer to that question? Pfahaha stick around to the end of the year and you’ll probably find out 😉

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THE RED SLEEVE: OPENING SCENE EPS 1.

The ring leader, young Deok Im is reading “The story of Janghwa and Hongryeon jeon” a Joseon-era Korean folktale.
(Ha Seok-jin cameo as the magistrate).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janghwa_Hongryeon_jeon

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    Sic,
    I thought this was also a reference to Prince Sado and the court ladies that he killed.

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    Yes, I I believe that the Korean film, A Tale of Two Sisters (2003), was a modern take on the tale.

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      Yes, it was :).
      That was the first Korean horror/drama film that I saw.

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    Ahhh Kiara I really wanna join in the fun! Reminds me of Yi San!
    I’ve been away from kdramaland for a while and this looks like the comeback for me, but I’ve got exams till January huhuhu

    Btw did you see this really neat detail Mimi spotted on her Twitter! https://twitter.com/muchadoboutlove/status/1459404076697804800?t=ZE48Q4KFMbEPM3X4nQ-3WA&s=19

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      @peony

      Do join us when you can! This is an interesting take from a court lady’s perspective.

      Thank you for sharing! Mimi is such a history geek; I love her and her blog.
      Ohhh, I had no idea King Jeongjo’s talents went beyond his calling as a king. But I guess it makes sense for a writer and a bookworm. Lol.

      Best of luck with your exams!!!!

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    Thanks for this. Checking the wall just before I can watch episode 3!!

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      I can’t wait for eps 3 and 4.

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        I’ve already watched episode 3 and I’m craving for episode 4.

        I wanted to ask you.. have you seen the movie with YAI as Prince Sado? On one hand I want to watch because YAI is always the best, but in the other hand I know how painful it can be…

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          Yes, I’ve seen THE THRONE. It’s close to the actual history, so it’s painful. It’s one of those films that I’d only watch one time.

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            I had this feeling. Thanks. I will probably watch but when I am in the right mood…

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            I’ve watched it twice. I guess I really am a sucker for punishment. LOL

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          There is a really beautiful moment where So Ji Sub, portraying King Jeongjo, dances in front of his mother. It is the final scene of the film. The music is so sad.

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            Yi San’s dance was my favorite part. That was the light at the end of the tunnel.

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            @kiara,

            His dance scene was very powerful.

            “That was the light at the end of the tunnel.” I like this. 🙂

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THE RED SLEEVE: COURT LADIES.
(from Mimi’s blog)

Court ladies or gungnyeo (궁녀,宮女) were the working women inside the palace. The word gungnyeo literally means ‘palace women’ and it was derived from the term gungjung yeogwan (궁중 여관) which gives the literal meaning ‘lady officer of the royal court’. Gungnyeo was used to generally describe all types of women who were working inside the palace, serving the royalties living in the royal quarters. Gungnyeo consisted of the high ranking court ladies as well as the ordinary court ladies without any rank who did most of the labour work known as nain (나인) and the other types of working ladies who were not included in the ranks such as bija (비자), musuri (무수리), gaksimi (각심이), bangja (방자), and uinyeo (의녀).

Generally, the court ladies were chosen among the young girls of the commoners or sangmin and the private female slaves of the governing class or sadaebu. However, the commoners were against this practice of sending their daughters to work in the palace at an early age and chose to marry off the daughters at a very young age to avoid being picked as the court ladies. Hence, the candidates for the court ladies were later picked among the private slaves as well as the government slaves, together with the daughters of the aristocrats’ concubines who were once courtesans or slaves. The appointment process was different for court ladies associated with the inner quarters for the king and queen since they were closely working with the royalties and for this reason, the nain for the inner quarters were recruited by the high ranked court ladies themselves through recommendations and connections.

The nain for the departments with specific skills such as sewing and embroidery were from the middle class or jungin while the ordinary nain were mostly commoners. The lower class gungnyeo came from the cheonmin class or the vulgar commoners. The age of the trainee court ladies were in between 4 to 6 years old when they first entered the palace but there were some trainees who entered when they were older, with the maximum age was 13 years old. These young trainees, who were also called saenggaksi (생각시), received proper education to become a gungnyeo, for instance education on the court language and palace etiquette. They would be elevated from the saenggaksi level to a nain when they passed a coming of age ceremony and later, when they had served the court for more than 15 years, they would eventually be promoted to higher ranks, with the top rank that could be achieved by a court lady being sanggung.

The nain were divided into seven main departments inside the palace: jimil (지밀), chimbang (침방), subang (수방), sesugan (세수간), saenggwabang (생과방), sojubang (소주방), and sedapbang (세답방). Jimil nain were the closest servants who waited and served the king and the queen, plus protecting them from any harm. These ladies entered the palace as early as the age of four in order for them to be trained properly. Chimbang nain were the tailors or seamstresses who made royal clothes and accessories for the royal families while subang nain were the ladies responsible for embroidery, be it for the royal clothing or the palace decorations. Sesugan was the department attending the king and queen’s bath, cleaning, and other necessities such as toilets and the place to spit. Saenggwabang was where preparation of the desserts and snacks took place, including fresh fruits, cooked fruits, baked goods, tea, fruit punches and porridge. Sojubang nain were further divided into two smaller departments: inner sojubang or naesojubang for daily meal preparations and outer sojubang or oesojubang for preparing food for banquets with the help of daeryeong suksu, a special chef for banquets from outside the palace.

Three other departments for the nain were twiseongan (퇴선간), bogicheo (복이처), and deungchokbang (등촉방). Twiseongan nain specialized in food arrangement while bochigeo was the department responsible for making fires and maintaining the heat for the quarters. Deungchokbang was for lighting candles and lanterns in the palace. The court ladies working as jimil nain were more influential compared to other nain and chimbang nain, together with subang nain, were the next in line in terms of power.
https://thetalkingcupboard.com/2014/06/15/women-of-the-joseon-dynasty-part-1/

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THE RED SLEEVE: THE RANK ATTAINABLE FOR THE COURT LADIES.
From Mimi’s blog.

5th senior rank – Sanggung (상궁, 尙宮) & Sangui (상의, 尙儀)
5th junior rank – Sangbok (상복, 尙服) & Sangsik (상식, 尙食)
6th senior rank – Sangchim (상침, 尙寢) & Sanggong (상공, 尙功)
6th junior rank – Sanjeong (상정, 尙正) & Sanggi (상기, 尙記)
7th senior rank – Jeonbin (전빈, 典賓) , Jeonui (전의, 典衣) & Jeonseon (전선, 典膳)
7th junior rank – Jeonseol (전설, 典設), Jeonje (전제, 典製) & Jeoneon (전언, 典言)
8th senior rank – Jeonchan (전찬, 典贊), Jeonsik (전식, 典飾) & Jeonyak (전약, 典藥)
8th junior rank – Jeondeung (전등, 典燈), Jeonchae (전채, 典采) & Jeonjeong (전정, 典正)
9th senior rank – Jugung (주궁, 奏宮), Jusang (주상, 奏商) & Jugak (주각, 奏角)
9th senior rank – Jubyeonjing (주변징, 奏變徵), Jujing (주징, 奏徵), Juwoo (주우,奏羽) & Jubyeongung (주변궁, 奏變宮)

Sanggung was the highest rank for the court ladies and there were two conditions for a court lady to be appointed as a sanggung: one was through advancement after years of serving in the palace and the other one through special appointment by the queen when she slept with the king. The special sanggung had a higher status compared to the ordinary sanggung since she was the woman favoured by the king, but she’s not yet a royal concubine. The ordinary sanggung acted as supervisors to the other court ladies but they were directly held the responsibility of sanggi and jeoneon.

https://thetalkingcupboard.com/2014/06/15/women-of-the-joseon-dynasty-part-1/

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    I don’t think the young Deok Im understood what it meant to be the highest Sanggung (consort) yet or does she? She could be aiming at being an ordinary sanggung.
    What say you?

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      I figured she just meant ordinary Sanggung, at least at this point (or didn’t understand the other meaning), but then after he talk with the King and the other head Court Lady maybe she started to understand a bit more.

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        Yes, and based on history being a spoiler, she didn’t seem to want the consort part of it.

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          The head court lady (is she the Sanggung (normal)?) seemed almost to be pushing for her to become a consort in that funeral march scene though… or was I reading that scene wrong haha. I was like, goodness, she’s a child, hauld yer wheesht!

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            Oh, she sounded like she was totally putting her own ambition on Deok Im’s shoulders.

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THE RED SLEEVE: premiering tomorrow, 11/12.

I haven’t been this worried and nervous about a drama in a long time.

I love these two together. I love the people that they are portraying in history. I love their story and how it’s going to break my heart again. I love this king and his effort to make life better for his people. I love how it’s making me want to pick up a history book and start reading again.

Please be good. 🙏

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    And if it isn’t really good, at least be entertaining.

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    I hope at somepoint theyll be crossing over with taec drama. Making cameo at each other is great, but an adlib line talking about each/acknowlegde that theyre in the same universe other would be enough

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    Seyoung and Junho showed amazing chemistry during their press release and he BTS. Having watched them on episode 2 I can see my heart broken in thrillion pieces.

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THE BOOK of BOBA FETT (Dec 29th, 2021)
@kathia, @eazal, @astrojoy
TRAILER dropped today while MANDO continues filming season 3.

Temuera Morrison ❤️
Ming-Na Wen ❤️

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THE BOOK of BOBA FETT (Dec 29th, 2021).
@kathia, @eazal
No Mando season 3 yet, but this may keep us entertained till then.

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Bestselling historical epic ‘GOGURYEO”‘ to be remade into TV series.
@WishfulToki , a long series like this will be fun to discuss at your blog.

Author Kim Jin-myung’s best-selling historical epic series, “Goguryeo,” will be remade into a blockbuster television series.

The dramatic royal narratives set in Goguryeo (37 B.C.-668 A.D.), one of the Three Kingdoms of Korea in the northernmost part of the peninsula, will revolve around five kings ― Micheon, Gogugwon, Sosurim, Gogugyang and Gwanggaeto the Great.

Currently at the screenwriting stage, the show is slated for production with a budget of some 100 billion won ($89.7 million) by the entertainment agency IOK Company, which recently signed a license agreement with the author.

https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/art/2021/06/688_309970.html

The book : https://www.bookdepository.com/Goguryeo-1-Jinmyeong-Kim/9788993964264

Me : 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼…….

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CONGRATS to MBN’s BOSSAM (cast and crew)!
Episode 13 broke records as the highest rated drama for the little guys.

Ratings 8.658 %.

https://www.soompi.com/article/1474396wpp/bossam-steal-the-fate-sets-new-record-for-highest-drama-ratings-in-mbn-history

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BOSSAM OST Part 9: “Beautiful Enough.”
By Gonia and Yu Taepyungyang.

I love the OST and the whole dang drama.
I can’t wait for the lyrics to be translated.

@wishfultoki, does it sound and feel a bit like Lee Sun-hee’s “FATE” from “KING and the CLOWN to you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPpgc9wrat0

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    Beautiful! It does remind me of Fate. I wonder if that was done on purpose, as a tribute to THE KING AND THE CLOWN? The whole OST reminds me of old school sageuks. ❤

    Translation according to https://popgasa.com/category/bossam-steal-the-fate-ost/

    The faded silver grass
    Is filled with my heart
    So I can’t just look at it
    Only longing and sighs come out

    Out of all the lonely days of my life
    I want to cut out just one day
    And fill it with your fair breath
    To let you come back to life

    This life is beautiful
    It’s fully like so
    Because I’ve heard
    The voice that calls me

    Connected with the moonlight
    Is my longing
    Endless like the river
    The hems of my sleeves are crying

    Out of all the lonely days of my life
    I want to cut out just one day
    And fill it with your fair breath
    To let you come back to life

    This life is beautiful
    It’s fully like so
    Because I’ve heard
    The voice that calls me

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    The ost is exceptional.

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BOSSAM: Steal the Fate.
Kwon Yuri as Princess Ha In aka Soo-kyeong.

Yuri-ah has become my favorite idol sageuk girl! I absolutely love her in this drama!

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    Slowly getting to this weeks episodes. Finally finished episode 5 tonight. I enjoyed watching Ba-woo and the Princess join forces in pulling off the big con.

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      Can’t wait to read your thoughts on those two episodes.

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        @kiara,
        In addition to the slow subbing this week I have been watching an episode a night of MOVE TO HEAVEN and then moving on to BOSSAM so I have been slow being current.
        I did find myself a couple times pausing episode 5 to Google something.
        I haven’t read @wishfultoki’s squeecap or the comments in the Hangout yet so maybe you have commented on 2 of these things.
        The first was the Dongui Bogam and Heo Jun.
        The second was the use of the ‘mapae’ medallion. Frankly I was surprised there was not a translator’ s note for that on Viki. It was very important for the story (and the con). I did not know anything about the mapae and it is quite interesting. A horse pass. Just a couple thoughts in passing.

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          @marcusnyc20,

          Please add your notes also to our thread if you can. I did put together a historical reference to Doctor Heo and his medical book but it got eaten by the lag and error so I lost it.
          Now I’m too lazy to do it again.

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          @marcusnyc20 I learned about the mapae in SECRET ROYAL INSPECTOR hehe. I’d like to know more about the meaning of the number of horses. Please share your findings on the fanwall! (The Hangout thread is crashing constantly – it can’t handle our long posts).

          What was not clear to me in the end is if the other “eunuch investigators” were also frauds. 😂They had no medallion but he looked more like a eunuch than Soo-kyung. And they had real swords, which all leads me to think they were authentic. But why were they there?

          Re. Heo Jun, I mentioned him briefly in the squeecap. I remembered Kim Nam-gil’s portrayal from LIVE UP TO YOUR NAME but that drama doesn’t exactly focus on his Joseon medical career.

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BOSSAM: Steal the Fate. Episode 5 Squee-cap is up.
Thank you @wishfultoki ❤️.

https://www.dramabeans.com/2021/05/drama-hangout-bossam-steal-the-fate/#comments

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BOSSAM: Steal The Fate.
Last day of filming.
https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bossam_StealTheFate?src=hashtag_click

Little Pebble probably got his wish in the end.

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    Fingers crossed all three of them survive.

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      I don’t see them killing off Cha Dol. this drama is not that tragic or dark.

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    Strong episodes the first week. I’m hoping they are happy at the end too!

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      Based on what they are wearing the possibility is very high.

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    I mean.. they are both alive obviously and he would not be wearing those clothes unless he got the family name back. And they match.. yeah. It’s almost certainly a happy ending:)

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VINCENZO: Bye Bye Balloon and Corn Salad I’ll miss you Wrap Up Party.

It’s good to see PD Kim and writer Park ❤️.

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