Beanie level: Loan shark with a heart of gold

IT’S OK TO NOT BE OK eps 8.

MY- Oppa

ST- Yes

MY- Let’s not work today

ST- Yes

(poor Mang-tae didn’t stand a chance)

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IT’S OK TO NOT BE OK eps 8 fairy tale: “BEAUTY and the BEAST”

The History of the Tale.
https://www.pookpress.co.uk/project/beauty-and-the-beast-history/

The Oldest Beauty and the Beast Story

It is thought by some scholars that Beauty and the Beast story may have a much longer history. It could be that it has roots in the tale of Cupid and Psyche, the ancient chronicle from the Latin novel Metamorphoses. This myth, written in the 2nd Century CE by Apuleius, is one of the oldest tales and many believe it to be the first ever literary fairy tale.

“A Tale as Old as Time”

Cupid and Psyche

The Ancient Roman tale starts with Psyche’s banishment (by the jealous Venus) to a mountaintop, in order to be wed to a murderous beast. Cupid is sent to destroy her but instead falls in love and flies her away to his castle. There she is directed to never seek to see the face of her husband, who visits and makes love to her in the dark of night. Eventually Psyche succumbs to her curiosity but accidentally scars her husband with a candle. In attempted atonement, Psyche offers herself as a slave to Venus, and completes a set of impossible tasks. Completing the last task (seeking beauty from the Queen of the Underworld), Psyche opens the ‘beauty in a box’ and at once falls into a coma. Overcome with grief, Cupid rescues her. He begs Jupiter that she may become immortal, so that the two could be forever united.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cupid_and_Psyche

Beauty and the Beast by Gabrielle-Suzanne de Villeneuve (1740)

The Beast, a prince, lost his father at a young age. His mother had to wage war to defend his kingdom, and left him in the care of a rather evil fairy. This fairy attempted to seduce him as the prince became an adult. When he refused, she transformed him into the beast until someone would agree to marry him without knowing his past or that he was intelligent. In a neighboring kingdom, Beauty is the daughter of a king and a different fairy. Beauty’s mother broke the laws of fairy society by falling in love with a human, so she was sentenced to remain in the fairy land and Beauty was sentenced to marry a hideous beast when she grew up. After Beauty’s mother disappeared from earth, the evil fairy unsuccessfully attempted to take Beauty’s life and marry her father. Beauty’s aunt, another good fairy, intervened and changed Beauty’s place with the dead daughter of a merchant for Beauty’s protection, then placed the Beast in a magically hidden castle until Beauty grew up.

“The happiness in store for them inspired each with equal delight. They could not entertain the least doubt of their mutual affection.” – Villeneuve’s La Belle et La Bête

Beauty and the Beast by Jeanne-Marie LePrince de Beaumont (1756)
https://www.pitt.edu/~dash/beauty.html

Commentary

Tatar (2017) compares the tale to the theme of “animal brides and grooms” found in folklore throughout the world, pointing out that the French tale was specifically intended for the preparation of young girls in 18th century France for arranged marriages. The urban opening is unusual in fairy tales, as is the social class of the characters, neither royal nor peasants; it may reflect the social changes occurring at the time of its first writing.

Hamburger (2015) points out that the design of the Beast in the 1946 film adaptation by Jean Cocteau was inspired by the portrait of Petrus Gonsalvus, a native of Tenerife who suffered from hypertrichosis, causing an abnormal growth of hair on his face and other parts, and who came under the protection of the French king and married a beautiful Parisian woman named Catherine.

Beauty and the Beast was Originally a Feminist Fable Disguised as Marriage Guidance

The Original Belle

Before her Beauty adaptation, the writer translated the tragic tale of Madame de Ganges, based on the real-life tragic history of Diane-Elisabeth de Rossan. The protagonist has an unfortunate story: a wealthy, beautiful and virtuous young woman remarries after becoming widowed. She makes a poor choice, however, and marries a jealous husband with two villainous brothers, both of whom fall in love with her. When neither succeeds in corrupting her virtue, their anger is so great that they decide to murder her – with the endorsement of her husband.

The heroine is ordered to choose the method of her own death: poison, stabbing or shooting. But in a twist in the tale, Madame de Ganges ends up the victim of all three: she is not only forced to swallow the poison, but when she attempts to escape, she is stabbed by one of the brothers, and shot. Ultimately, it is the poison which finishes her off: details of the character’s autopsy in a later translated version reveal that it had “burnt the coats of her stomach, and turned her brain quite black”. The beauty of the young woman was transmuted into the beast of a blackened husk.

Interestingly, in de Beaumont’s version of Madame de Ganges’s tale, written as a moral for young women, she seemingly attributes some culpability to the Marchioness in her own downfall. Her husband’s jealousy arises because she “gad[s] about so much”, enjoying being admired for her beauty. This incurs the wrath of her jealous husband who chides her “to stay more at home”.

But de Beaumont almost seems dissatisfied with concluding that Madame de Ganges should have complied with her husband because “lions and tygers are tamed at last; a man must be of a fiercer nature than those animals, not to be gained by a complying, prudent, and discreet wife”. And so she rewrote the tale again, this time as a fairy tale: Beauty and the Beast.

https://theconversation.com/beauty-and-the-beast-was-originally-a-feminist-fable-disguised-as-marriage-guidance-74561

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IT’S OK TO NOT BE OK eps 7.

“Later means sometime before you die.”

Sang-tae oppa

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MOVIE WATCH: “MINARI” 2020.
Release date: Coming soon.
(Can’t wait to see it)

Written and directed by Lee Isaac Chung
Staring: Steven Yeun, Han Ye-ri, Yoon Yeo-jeong

Premise:

Minari follows a Korean-American family that moves to a tiny Arkansas farm in search of their own American Dream. The family home changes completely with the arrival of their sly, foul-mouthed, but incredibly loving grandmother.

Awards: Minari won 2 awards during the Sundance festivals January 2020
https://deadline.com/2020/02/sundance-film-festival-awards-2020-winners-1202848900/

Reviews:
IndieWire: https://www.indiewire.com/2020/01/minari-review-sundance-1202206360/
The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/jan/29/minari-sundance-korean-american-film
Variety:https://variety.com/2020/film/reviews/minari-review-1203484467/#article-comments
Hollywood Reporter: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/minari-review-1273558

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    Cant find the trailer!

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    Thanks for the heads up @kiara. I am bummed that the AMC 25 in NYC has been closed since March. That is my go to place for first run Korean movies. I hope it will be able to reopen.
    Last weekend I watched a couple of films I have had queued up for some time: THE AGE OF BLOOD (2017) and THE KING’S LETTERS (2019). I enjoyed both. I think I remember you had reservations about TKL for historical accuracy.

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      Hi @marcusnyc20, bong-soo Yw:).

      I used to live close to an AMC theater then our family moved a year ago the nearest one is 45 mins away 😟. I missed it so bad.
      Oh did you like TKL? The leads are two of my favorites actors in Korea. Song is everywhere but I don’t get to see much of Park Hae-il.
      I’ve been fangirling over King Sejong ever since I’ve heard of him so it’s just me being bias lol.

      Stay safe and hope we’ll get to see it sometimes soon.

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    This sounds great!

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    Looking forward to seeing this! I love Steven Yeun and Han Ye-ri. Yoon Yeo-jeong is a f* legend. I’m especially happy to see bilingual Steven Yeun’s international career flourishing.

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      Yoon Yeo-jeong is gold and she speaks English better than I do :).

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    Omg this whole cast!! I’ll definitely keep an eye out for this.

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IT’S OK TO NOT BE OK: Moon-young’s mother.

I mentioned the actress Woo Jung-won at eps 5 recap and I thought that she is also playing Eun-ja but I was mistaken.

Woo Jung-won and Seo Ye-ji looks more like mother and daughter so I guess her mother is dead and the show is just playing with my mind lol.

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IT’S OK TO NOT BE OK : Korean folktales.

Episode 5: Netflix translations.

KT-My face is all swollen, so I look like Mr Lumpy now. What do I do?
ST-Mr Lumpy? Where is Mr Lumpy? Mr Lumpy.
KT-(oh oh) My lumps are all gone. (Oh) I can’t believe it.
ST-Lying is bad. It’s deception. The cops will come and arrest you.

“HOKBURIYEONGGAM”
“Old Man With a Lump on His Neck”(瘤子老爷)
by Kim Jongdae

“Hokburiyeonggam” is the tale of an old man who, with the help of goblins, loses the big lump on his neck, and another old man who, instead of losing his deformity, was given another lump by the goblins.

An old man who had a lump on his neck went to the mountain to gather wood. He worked until after dark and on his way down, found an empty house where he decided to lodge for the night. Feeling alone and bored, he began singing a song, which attracted goblins (dokkaebi), who were moved by his singing.“ Old man, where does that beautiful singing come from? ” asked the goblin leader, and the old man answered, “ It comes from this lump on my neck.” The goblin asked the old man to sell him the lump in return for treasure, which the old man accepted, and the old man lost his lump and became rich as well. A neighbor of his, who also had a lump of his neck, heard the story and headed out to the empty house in the mountain and waited for nightfall. Night arrived and he began to sing, which again attracted the goblins. The goblin leader again asked where the singing came from and the old man answered that it came from his lump. Upon hearing this, the goblin said, “ The other old man was a liar and you’re one, too, ” and added a lump on the other side of the old man’s neck. This gave birth to the expression, “ Went to lose the lump but returned with another, ”

This tale belongs to the type of imitation tale spread around the world, but lacks in characterization. Many folk tales emphasize the theme of “punishing evil and rewarding virtue (gwonseon jingak), ” and many Korean tales highlight filial piety, but those themes are ignored in this narrative and the only clear plot is the old man overcoming crisis with a lie, for which he acquires wealth, which makes it difficult to position the tale within the Korean oral tradition. It is also notable that the structure of repetition is unrelated to the character’s virtue or vice and that reward and punishment is determined only by the order of who came first. The tale is included in the primary school textbook Chōsengo dokuhon, published in 1923, under Japanese colonial rule, and the inclusion of a story in which the protagonist is rewarded for lying seems to pose moral issues. The story’s plot is revised in the 1933 edition of the book, but the fact that it took ten years to change this reflects the Japanese colonial government’s attempt to distort the characteristics of the Korean people.

The tale was first documented in 1915 in the textbook Chōsengo dokuhon under the title “Old Man With a Lump” and has since been recognized as one of the most widely known Korean folk tales. In Japan, the story was published as part of the 1st-grade textbook Jinjō shōgaku dokuhon, which was copied onto the Korean textbook, including the illustrations, which depicted dokkaebi as the Japanese goblin oni, resulting in the similarity between the public image of dokkaebi and oni.
https://folkency.nfm.go.kr/en/topic/detail/6021

A bit of history.

During the Japanese colonial era, dokkaebi became subsumed by oni. This is how the Japanese story Kobutori Jisan turned into Hokburiyeonggam (The Old Man with a Lump on His Neck) in colonial-era Korean textbooks, a case of the oni being transferred wholesale into the dokkaebi tradition.

This story in colonial-era textbooks would have served to show that Korea and Japan have a single cultural root, an attempt at justifying colonial rule.

https://koreanliteraturenow.com/essay/musings/dokkaebi-goblins-korean-myth

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IT’S OK TO NOT BE OK Eps 6: The end blooper 😂
Moon-young: Esmeralda from Hunchback of Notre-Dame?
Kang-tae: Quasimodo?

Is Victor Hugo’s novels next?

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    Loved it, although at the beginning I thought about Igor and not the Hunchback, LOL.

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IT’S OK TO NOT BE OK Eps 6: “BLUEBEARD.” A French folktale, written by Charles Perrault.

Surviving version
https://etc.usf.edu/lit2go/68/fairy-tales-and-other-traditional-stories/4858/blue-beard/

PLOT

Bluebeard is a wealthy and powerful nobleman who has been married several times to beautiful women who have all mysteriously vanished. When Bluebeard visits his neighbor and asks to marry one of his daughters, the girls are terrified. After hosting a wonderful banquet, he chooses the youngest daughter to be his wife – against her will – and she goes to live with him in his rich and luxurious palace in the countryside, away from her family.

Bluebeard announces that he must leave for the country and gives the keys of the château to his wife. She is able to open any door in the house with them, each of which contain some of his riches, except for an underground chamber that he strictly forbids her to enter lest she suffer his wrath. He then goes away and leaves the house and the keys in her hands. She invites her sister, Anne, and her friends and cousins over for a party. However, she is eventually overcome with the desire to see what the forbidden room holds, and she sneaks away from the party and ventures into the room.

She immediately discovers the room is flooded with blood and the murdered corpses of Bluebeard’s former wives hanging on hooks from the walls. Horrified, she drops the key in the blood and flees the room. She tries to wash the blood from the key, but the key is magical and the blood cannot be removed. Fearing for her life, she reveals her husband’s secret to her visiting sister, and they plan to both flee the next morning. However, Bluebeard unexpectedly returns and finds the bloody key. In a blind rage, he threatens to kill his wife on the spot, but she asks for one last prayer with her sister Anne. Then, as Bluebeard is about to deliver the fatal blow, Anne and the wife’s brothers arrive and kill Bluebeard. The wife inherits his fortune and castle, and has the dead wives buried. She uses the fortune to have her other siblings married then remarries herself, finally moving on from her horrible experience with Bluebeard.

COMMENTARIES

The fatal effects of female curiosity have long been the subject of story and legend. Eve, Lot’s wife, Pandora, and Psyche are all examples of mythic stories where women’s curiosity is punished by dire consequences. The Bluebeard story also echoes the story of The Fall. In giving his wife the keys to his castle, Bluebeard is acting the part of the serpent, and therefore of the devil, and his wife the part of the victim held by the serpent’s gaze.

In addition, hidden or forbidden chambers were not unknown in pre-Perrault literature. In Basile’s Pentamerone, the tale The Three Crowns tells of a Princess Marchetta entering a room after being forbidden by an ogress, and in The Arabian Nights, Prince Agib is given a hundred keys to a hundred doors but forbidden to enter the golden door, which he does with terrible consequences.

While some scholars interpret the Bluebeard story as a fable preaching obedience to wives (as Perrault’s moral suggests), folklorist Maria Tatar has suggested that the tale encourages women not to unquestioningly follow patriarchal rules. Women breaking men’s rules in the fairy tale can be seen as a metaphor for women breaking society’s rules and being punished for their transgression. The key can be seen as a sign of disobedience or transgression; it can also be seen as a sign that one should not trust their husband.

Tatar, however, does go on to speak of Bluebeard as something of a “Beauty and the Beast” narrative. The original Beauty and the Beast tale by Jeanne-Marie Leprince de Beaumont is said to be a story created to condition young women into the possibility of not only marriage, but marrying young, and to placate their fears of the implications of an older husband. It shows the beast as secretly compassionate, and someone meant to curb the aggressive sexual fears that young women have towards marriage. Though “Beauty and the Beast” holds several similarities in Gothic imagery to “Bluebeard,”(such as is shared with Cupid and Psyche as well, in the case of a mysterious captor, a looming castle, and a young, beautiful heroine) Tatar goes on to state that the latter tale lives on the entire opposite side of the spectrum: one in which, instead of female placation, the tale simply aggravates women’s apprehension, confirming one’s “‘worst fears about sex'”.

Jungian psychoanalyst Clarissa Pinkola Estés refers to the key as the key of knowing which gives the wife consciousness. She can choose to not open the door and live as a naive young woman. Instead, she has chosen to open the door of truth.

For folklorist Bruno Bettelheim, Bluebeard can only be considered a fairy tale because of the magical bleeding key; otherwise, it would just be a monstrous horror story. Bettelheim sees the key as associated with the male sexual organ, “particularly the first intercourse when the hymen is broken and blood gets on it.” For Bettelheim, the blood on the key is a symbol of the wife’s indiscretion.

For scholar Philip Lewis, the key offered to the wife by Bluebeard represents his superiority, since he knows something she does not. The blood on the key indicates that she now has knowledge. She has erased the difference between them, and in order to return her to her previous state, he must kill her.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluebeard

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IT’S OK TO NOT BE OK

“It’s Okay To Not Be Okay” Fact Check:

What Is The Identity Of The Deer That Seo YeJi Was Screaming At?

In Korea, it is an animal you can easily see in the mountains and there is often news about Gorani being hit by cars on the roads. Some of the Goranis have long teeth looking like a vampire.

https://www.kpopmap.com/its-okay-to-not-be-okay-fact-check-what-is-the-identity-of-the-deer-that-seo-yeji-was-screaming-at/

Shall we call it vampire deer?

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IT’S OK TO NOT BE OK Episode 5: “Bates Motel.”
It’s a reference to an American mystery, psychological horror drama television series (2013-2017).
I enjoyed this series and became an even bigger fan of Vera Farmiga and Freddie Highmore.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bates_Motel_(TV_series)

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    lol.. more than the series.. it is a reference to the cult hitchcock movie

    Psycho

    everyone and their mother know about that movie

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      If you’ve seen the series it’s a prequel to Hitchcock’s “Psycho” so yes we know that.

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        ya.. watched first few episodes when it was launched… wasn’t exciting so dropped

        And, i highly doubt they were referring to the series, instead the movie

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          That’s the beauty of this series. It can be interpreted in so many ways.

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    and that “even my mom should pay” comment…

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    This version is the one I’m familiar with and immediately thought of when I saw the motel’s name. I did crack up at the “even my mom has to pay upfront” line. I’m enjoying the dashes of psychological/horror they’ve incorporated in so far, although I did get so scared during all the ghost mom scenes. Yikes!

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      Same, this is the latest version for me. I didn’t grow up on Hitchcock films even thought I’ve heard of him.

      I like Jung Sung-hoon’s cameo.

      “Just say it”

      “Tell her that you love her”

      While eating a bowl of popcorn lol.

      Question.
      Does # 19 ring a bell or is he just meant for them to get a room?

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        Me neither tbh. I know of Hitchcock as the master of the genre but that’s about it. Hmm that number doesn’t ring a bell – it has been a while since I first watched Bates Motel so I might have forgotten stuff.

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IT’S OK TO NOT BE OK Episode 5.

Rapunzel, Rapunzel,
Let down your hair.

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IT’S OK TO NOT BE OK EPS 5: “Oh My Darling Clementine.”
The tragic tale of Clementine.

SONG FACTS

“Oh My Darling, Clementine” is a popular American Western folk ballad that is most often attributed to performers like Percy Montrose and Barker Bradford. Its origins however, lie in an 1863 tune by H.S. Thompson called “Down By the River Liv’d a Maiden.” Like “Clementine,” the song is a mock-serious ode to the narrator’s deceased lover, who drowned after she stubbed her toe and fell in the river. Thompson used some pretty clever imagery to conjure an image of our heroine:

Her lips were like two luscious beefsteaks
Dipp’d in tomato sauce and brine
And like the cashmere goatess covering
Was the fine wool of Clementine

In 2012, Neil Young and Crazy Horse recorded a hard rock version of the song for their Americana album. Other memorable covers include Jan and Dean’s “Clementine” in 1959, Connie Francis’ rendition on her Folk Song Favorites in 1961, Tom Lehrer’s multi-styled version from his live album An Evening Wasted with Tom Lehrer and Westlife’s from their Rat Pack tribute album Allow Us to Be Frank.

Bobby Darin took some “hefty” liberties with the tune in 1960 when he incorporated a fat joke at the end, warning a sailor to look out for a whale because “it just may be chunky Clementine.”
The cast of the TV show M*A*S*H performed “Oh My Darling, Clementine” in the season five episode “Movie Tonight” in 1977. The episode also prominently featured the 1946 film My Darling Clementine. Directed by John Ford, the movie starred Henry Fonda, Linda Darnell and Cathy Downs (who played Clementine Carter).

The song also inspired the 1943 musical O, My Darling Clementine, starring Roy Acuff, Isabel Randolph, Harry Cheshire and Lorna Gray in the role of Clementine.

LYRICS

In a cavern, in a canyon,
Excavating for a mine
Dwelt a miner 49er,
And his daughter Clementine

Oh my darling, oh my darling,
Oh my darling, Clementine!
Thou art lost and gone forever
Dreadful sorry, Clementine

Light she was and like a fairy,
And her shoes were number nine,
Herring boxes, without topses,
Sandals were for Clementine.

Oh my darling, oh my darling,
Oh my darling, Clementine!
Thou art lost and gone forever
Dreadful sorry, Clementine

Drove she ducklings to the water
Every morning just at nine,
Hit her foot against a splinter,
Fell into the foaming brine.

Oh my darling, oh my darling,
Oh my darling, Clementine!
Thou art lost and gone forever
Dreadful sorry, Clementine

Ruby lips above the water,
Blowing bubbles, soft and fine,
But, alas, I was no swimmer,
So I lost my Clementine.

Oh my darling, oh my darling,
Oh my darling, Clementine!
Thou art lost and gone forever
Dreadful sorry, Clementine

How I missed her! How I missed her,
How I missed my Clementine,
But I kissed her little sister,
I forgot my Clementine.

Oh my darling, oh my darling,
Oh my darling, Clementine!
Thou art lost and gone forever
Dreadful sorry, Clementine

https://www.songfacts.com/facts/traditional/oh-my-darling-clementine#:~:text=Like%20%22Clementine%2C%22%20the%20song,in%20tomato%20sauce%20and%20brine

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IT’S OK TO NOT BE OK: Episode 5 Upcoming fairy tale “RAPUNZEL”

Original tale:
“Petrosinella” (1634) by Giambattista Basile
https://fairytalearchive.wordpress.com/2017/05/03/petrosinella-1634-by-giambattista-basile/

“Persinette” (1698) by Charlotte-Rose de La Force
https://fairytalearchive.wordpress.com/2017/05/03/persinette-1698-by-charlotte-rose-de-la-force/

“Rapunzel” (1812) by Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm
https://www.pitt.edu/~dash/grimm012.html

THEMES and CHARACTERIZATION
Many scholars have interpreted “Maiden in the Tower” stories, which Rapunzel is a part of, as a metaphor for the protection of young woman from pre-marital relationships by overzealous guardians.Scholars have drawn comparisons of the confinement of Rapunzel in her tower to that of a convent, where women’s lives were highly controlled and they lived in exclusion from outsiders.

Scholars have also noted the strong theme of love conquering all in the story, as the lovers are united after years of searching in all versions after Persinette and are ultimately happily reunited as a family.

The seemingly unfair bargain that the husband makes with the sorceress in the opening of Rapunzel is a common convention in fairy tales, which is replicated in Jack and the Beanstalk when Jack trades a cow for beans or in Beauty and the Beast when Beauty comes to the Beast in return for a rose. Furthermore, folkloric beliefs often regarded it as dangerous to deny a pregnant woman any food she craved, making the bargain with the sorceress more understandable since the husband would have perceived his actions as saving his wife at the cost of his child.Family members would often go to great lengths to secure such cravings and such desires for lettuce and other vegetables may indicate a need for vitamins.

The “Maiden in the Tower” archetype has drawn comparisons to a possible lost matriarchal myth connected to the sacred marriage between the prince and the maiden and the rivalry between the maiden, representing life and spring, and the crone, representing death and winter.

MYTHOLOGICAL and RELIGIOUS INSPIRATION

Some researchers have proposed that the earliest possible inspiration for the “Maiden in the Tower” archetype is to the pre-Christian European (or proto-Indo-European) sun or dawn goddess myths, in which the light deity is trapped and is rescued. Similar myths include that of the Baltic solar goddess, Saulė, who is held captive in a tower by a king.Inspiration may also be taken from the classical myth of the hero Perseus. Perseus’ mother, Danaë, was confined to a bronze tower by her father, Acrisius the King of Argos, to prevent her from becoming pregnant, as it was foretold by the Oracle of Delphi that she would bare a son who would kill his grandfather.

Inspiration may come from the life of Saint Barbara of Nicomedia, who was a beautiful woman who was confined to a tower by her father to hide her away from suitors.While in the tower, she converted to Christianity and is ultimately martyred for her faith after a series of miracles delaying her execution. Her story was included in The Book of City Ladies by Chirstine de Pizan, which may have been highly influential on later writers, as it was popular throughout Europe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapunzel

7 Parts Of The Grimms Brothers’ ‘Rapunzel’ That Will Shock You
https://www.bustle.com/articles/68595-7-parts-of-the-grimms-brothers-rapunzel-that-will-shock-you-or-at-least-strike-you

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IT’S OK TO NOT BE OK: NAM JOO RI.
(Character description)
Park Gyu Young as Nam Joo Ri (30 years old – Psychiatric Hospital Nurse)

A nurse who has worked for 7 years at the OK Psychiatric Hospital. For 1 year, she worked closely with Kang Tae at a hospital in Seoul, and because they were from the same hometown, they became close. Nobody knows much effort she put into having a beer after work with Kang Tae who everyone had said was very hard to get close to.

Kang Tae was so defensive by nature all the time, so she didn’t dare show how much she liked him, but then one day. Moon Young showed up in front of Kang Tae and her heart chilled. For a very brief time during their elementary school days, she had been in the same class with her, so Joo Ri knew well. How creepy and scary a child that girl had been. Whatever she had to do, she has to tear Moon Young away from Kang Tae’s side… However, nothing is happening the way she wanted.

In the fairy tales, the nice protagonist defeats the witch and wins the prince, however, reality isn’t happening like the fairy tales. What makes this woman who is so timid change from being “Jeckyll to Hyde” is alcohol! As soon as she has some alcohol, reason gets completely cut off, and that woman’s hidden other personality appears.

https://forums.soompi.com/topic/446562-current-drama-2020-its-okay-not-to-be-okay-%EC%82%AC%EC%9D%B4%EC%BD%94%EC%A7%80%EB%A7%8C-%EA%B4%9C%EC%B0%AE%EC%95%84-sat-sun-2100-kst/

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    That’s quite a sad description. From my understanding…she is bottling up her emotions and her real personality comes out under alcohol influence. That’s sad.

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    Wah, I see that in her character. It is sad, but it’s not uncommon. I think she’s just misread Kang-tae from the start, making it even harder for her to get through to him. Whereas Moon-young goes for the kill and sees through his cover, and that oughtta make her stand out.
    I do find her really charming whenever she interacts with Jae-su and Sang-tae, basically anyone else who isn’t Kang-tae. That has to do with how tense I think she seems whenever she’s with Kang-tae. She’s trying at a lost cause and I feel bad for her. I hope to see more of her interactions with Jae-su and CEO Lee – they’re so fun to watch as they lament over Moon-young. 😛

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    Hmm.. very interesting. I always felt there was something more to her. She is a ticking time bomb it seems.

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    There’s something in her eyes that reminds of the roles Pyo Ye-Jin have been playing. I’m uncomfortable every time she’s on screen.

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IT’S OK TO NOT BE OK: Antisocial personality disorder (APD).
(According to Mayo Clinice)

Antisocial personality disorder, sometimes called sociopathy, is a mental disorder in which a person consistently shows no regard for right and wrong and ignores the rights and feelings of others. People with antisocial personality disorder tend to antagonize, manipulate or treat others harshly or with callous indifference. They show no guilt or remorse for their behavior.

Individuals with antisocial personality disorder often violate the law, becoming criminals. They may lie, behave violently or impulsively, and have problems with drug and alcohol use. Because of these characteristics, people with this disorder typically can’t fulfill responsibilities related to family, work or school.

SYMPTOMS
Antisocial personality disorder signs and symptoms may include:

-Disregard for right and wrong
-Persistent lying or deceit to exploit others
-Being callous, cynical and disrespectful of others
-Using charm or wit to manipulate others for personal gain or personal pleasure
-Arrogance, a sense of superiority and being extremely opinionated
-Recurring problems with the law, including criminal behavior
-Repeatedly violating the rights of others through intimidation and dishonesty
-Impulsiveness or failure to plan ahead
-Hostility, significant irritability, agitation, aggression or violence
-Lack of empathy for others and lack of remorse about harming others
-Unnecessary risk-taking or dangerous behavior with no regard for the safety of self or others
-Poor or abusive relationships
-Failure to consider the negative consequences of behavior or learn from them
-Being consistently irresponsible and repeatedly failing to fulfill work or financial obligations

Adults with antisocial personality disorder typically show symptoms of conduct disorder before the age of 15. Signs and symptoms of conduct disorder include serious, persistent behavior problems, such as:

-Aggression toward people and animals
-Destruction of property
-Deceitfulness
-Theft
-Serious violation of rules
Although antisocial personality disorder is considered lifelong, in some people, certain symptoms — particularly destructive and criminal behavior — may decrease over time. But it’s not clear whether this decrease is a result of aging or an increased awareness of the consequences of antisocial behavior.

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    I will be checking out your fan wall whenever I watch it! 😛 Not watching it live! Great informative posts!

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    ASPD

    Sigh…what’s wrong with me?

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IT’S OK TO NOT BE OK: EPS 3/4 SLEEPING BEAUTY (WITCH).
Another dark and disturbing original.
“The Sun, Moon and Talia”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun,_Moon,_and_Talia
written by Giambattista Basile

“Little Briar-Rose – A Sleeping Beauty Story” from the Brothers Grimm.
https://www.pookpress.co.uk/little-briar-rose/#:~:text=Little%20Briar%2DRose%20(Dornr%C3%B6nschen),the%20one%20of%20the%20tamest.

ORIGINATION
Early contributions to the tale include the medieval courtly romance Perceforest (published in 1528). In this tale, a princess named Zellandine falls in love with a man named Troylus. Her father sends him to perform tasks to prove himself worthy of her, and while he is gone, Zellandine falls into an enchanted sleep. Troylus finds her and impregnates her in her sleep; when their child is born, the child draws from her finger the flax that caused her sleep. She realizes from the ring Troylus left her that he was the father, and Troylus later returns to marry her.

The second part of the Sleeping Beauty tale, in which the princess and her children are almost put to death but instead are hidden, may have been influenced by Genevieve of Brabant. Even earlier influences come from the story of the sleeping Brynhild in the Volsunga saga and the tribulations of saintly female martyrs in early Christian hagiography conventions. Following these early renditions, the tale was first published by Italian poet Giambattista Basile who lived from 1575–1632.

INTERPRETATIONS

According to Maria Tatar, the Sleeping Beauty tale has been disparaged by modern-day feminists who consider the protagonist to have no agency and find her passivity to be offensive; some feminists have even argued for people to stop telling the story altogether.

60 years later, Disney received “harsh criticism” for depicting both Cinderella and the Sleeping Beauty princess as “naïve and malleable” characters.Time Out dismissed the princess as a “delicate” and “vapid” character. Sonia Saraiya of Jezebel echoed this sentiment, criticizing the princess for lacking “interesting qualities”, where she also ranked her as Disney’s least feminist princess.Similarly, Bustle also ranked the princess as the least feminist Disney Princess, with author Chelsea Mize expounding, “Aurora literally sleeps for like three quarters of the movie … Aurora just straight-up has no agency, and really isn’t doing much in the way of feminine progress.” Leigh Butler of Tor.com went on to defend the character writing, “Aurora’s cipher-ness in Sleeping Beauty would be infuriating if she were the only female character in it, but the presence of the Fairies and Maleficent allow her to be what she is without it being a subconscious statement on what all women are.” Similarly, Refineryranked Princess Aurora the fourth most feminist Disney Princess because, “Her aunts have essentially raised her in a place where women run the game.”[30] Despite being featured prominently in Disney merchandise, “Aurora has become an oft-forgotten princess”, and her popularity pales in comparison to those of Cinderella and Snow White.

The brother’s Grimm tale of “Little Brier-Rose” contains a mythic element of prophecy. This prophecy is revealed to the king at a banquet celebrating his daughter’s birth, announcing that Brier Rose will prick her finger on a spinning wheel and die. In desperation to save his daughter, the king tries everything he can to protect his daughter from this fate. However, since this prophecy is foretold, it finds a way to become true. This idea of prophecy is found in other Greek myths, like the story of Oedipus. “Whether recounting the distant past or rapidly evolving in the present, Oedipus the King remains a tragedy of belief, even as the conditions of that belief change over time. Each having disbelieved horrific prophecy and striven to prevent it, Jocasta and Oedipus then join forces doubly to strive against prophecy that has already materialized as fact”. Regardless of the preventative measures taken against it, prophecy will always reign true. For Brier Rose, even though her father demanded all spinning wheels should be burned to stop her from pricking her finger, she still manages to do so. The prophecy is fulfilled even though measures were taken to avoid it.

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IT’S OK TO NOT BE OK: Eps 3- THE LITTLE MERMAID.
By Hans Christian Andersen.
http://visitandersen.com/fairy-tales/little-mermaid
1836 version
http://hca.gilead.org.il/li_merma.html

THEMES and INTERPRETATIONS:
In Maria Tatar’s The Annotated Classic Fairy Tales, the transformation of the little mermaid from sea creature to mermaid in human form, and then to a creature of the air, is believed to reflect Andersen’s constant engagement with mutability and changes in identity. Tatar also suggests that the Little Mermaid did not give up everything for love alone. Tatar’s interpretation of the tale is one that presents a rare heroine with an investigative curiosity which is shown through the mermaid’s fascination of the unknown, the forbidden, and her intent on broadening her horizons from the start. Even before she sees the prince, she displays an intense longing to visit the world above the sea through her actions such as: arranging the flowers in her garden into the shape of the sun, listening to her grandmother and sisters’ stories of the surface, and peeking in through the window of the prince’s cabin during his birthday celebrations. Tatar argues that the mermaid wants, above all, to explore the world and discover things that are beyond what she already knows. The world above seems larger than her own and holds a greater range of possibilities to exercise her adventurous spirit. This is demonstrated in some versions of the story when the prince has a page boy’s costume made for her so that she may ride on horseback and explore the land with him. Here, her willingness to cross-dress implies a willingness to transgress gender boundaries and take risks to be able to see the world. Tatar feels this also comments on Andersen’s interests in changes in identity.

In her analysis, Virginia Borges concludes that the story contains a message about love and self-sacrifice, and the dangers of accepting abuse or inconsiderate treatment in the name of love.

Susan White interprets the story as the difficult liminal passage of the girl into the order of speech and social symbolism (power, politics, and agency) which is symbolically understood as masculine.

The artist Pen Dalton has made use of Laura Mulvey’s interpretation of fetishism in art to link The Little Mermaid to the wearing of fetishistic clothes, and obsessive cosmetic surgery with masculine fears of loss.

Rictor Norton, in My Dear Boy: Gay Love Letters through the Centuries, theorizes that The Little Mermaid was written as a love letter by Hans Christian Andersen to Edvard Collin. This is based on a letter Andersen wrote to Collin, upon hearing of Collin’s engagement to a young woman, around the same time that the Little Mermaid was written. Andersen wrote “I languish for you as for a pretty Calabrian wench… my sentiments for you are those of a woman. The femininity of my nature and our friendship must remain a mystery. Andersen also sent the original story to Collin. Norton interprets the correspondence as a declaration of Andersen’s homosexual love for Collin, and describes The Little Mermaid as an allegory for Andersen’s life.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Little_Mermaid

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    I love the last interpretation. Everyone imagines a beautiful girl under the immage of a mermaid (mer = sea in french + maid) and that’s why he could hide his homosexual love, desire behind this image although men’s version of mermaid should exist as well, otherwise how they’ll reproduce themselves. Homosexuality was forbidden by law so he was really clever to use this disguise to express his love publicly.

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    Thank you. These interpretations are very interesting.
    Some time ago I took an online course about Andersen, and The little mermaid was among the stories that were analyzed. I found it fascinating that she wanted to be loved from the man not only because she liked/loved him and his world, but above all because being loved by a human would give her a soul (mermaids were said to live much longer than humans, but they had no soul). The story seemed more deep this way.

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    Thank you for writing about different intErpretations.

    I liked the classroom sequence with the alternate perspectives on classic fairy tales; it would be nice if they expand on the themes they just barely exposed.

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IT’S OK TO NOT BE OK: Another beautiful Butterfly Hug.
These two are going to be the death of me.

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IT’S OK TO NOT BE OK: Character Description.
Translated by stroppyse @soompi.

GO MOON YOUNG (30 year old, Popular Author of children’s books, sociopathic personality traits)

Though she looks as if she isn’t lacking for anything, there is one fatal flaw. God was so busy fashioning her physical being to look like an angel that he forgot and missed one thing… That thing is the emotion called the “Scent of a Soul”. Having been born a flower without that scent, there was no reason that she wouldn’t become twisted about birds and butterflies. It was inevitable that she would be alone, and she was used to being lonely. Is it the fault of the person who makes a defective product? Or is it the fault of the defective product? She blames her Creator, and so thinking that she is free from all norms, she lives doing just as she pleases.

She prefers outfits and hairstyles that are anachronistic and out of touch with reality. The fancy and excessive styling is not for self-indulgence, but for self-defense. It’s to block the world from seeing her fragility and sincerity. To this woman who lives in this attention grabbing way, one day a very interesting prey (?) is captured. She knew as soon as she saw his gave with its air of “having lived a hard life”. That guy is my destiny!

However, the man’s resistance is not easy to overcome. The more he does that (resists), the more competitive I become. (me: meaning the more he resists, the more she wants him) Curiosity becomes greed, greed becomes obsession, obsession at some point becomes desperate desire. That I could have such feelings as well… could this be love? Why in the world I am being like this, what are all of these fluctuating wavelengths in my heart, I don’t have any immunity, so it hurts and troubles me to death, please teach me what each of these things are?

If like that I am able to learn through you, wouldn’t I be able to get the scent of a soul as well?

https://forums.soompi.com/topic/446562-current-drama-2020-its-okay-not-to-be-okay-%EC%82%AC%EC%9D%B4%EC%BD%94%EC%A7%80%EB%A7%8C-%EA%B4%9C%EC%B0%AE%EC%95%84-sat-sun-2100-kst/page/34/

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