Beanie level: Loan shark with a heart of gold

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Yes, he is. He truly is.

Also, in my mind I am rewriting the story that he is being kidnapped in an art studio and the only pain he is suffering is the mental discomfort serving as an inexperienced model.

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Do you like Brahms? You should!!
Have some Raisin Brahms to channel the power of the art 🎹💪🎶

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Flower Monster

Public Service Announcement: Keep the invasive species of your garden under control this summer. Even Gun Shen can fall victim to its aggression.

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    LOL I was like, “What in the what is Li Xian doing???”

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    I’m watching Tientsin Mystic now!

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      Awesome! That has been on my to-watch-list forever!
      Are you enjoying it, @myriver?

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        It’s weird, everything about it on paper is too – excellent cinematography, good acting, good styling/make up, intriguing plot line, fast-paced storytelling. But somehow I’m okay with dropping it and not knowing how it ends?

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          Everything on paper is **good

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          I have experienced the same thing @myriver with a few dramas -everything about them screams quality but somehow emotionally don’t connect with me!

          I definitely love LX’s badass braids with shaved sides….it speaks to me on an emotional level and resonates with me on a physical level.

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    @kimbap, you are alive!!!!!!!

    Hope things are fine with you.

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      @mayhemf!!!! It definitely has been a while and oh how much I miss squeeing together with you!!

      I am doing well….as much as one can be living in this dark times. I have been thinking about you recently since that very unfortunate NYC birder incident happened with the dog woman. Hope all is well with you too and stay safe!

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    Noona!! Hiiiiiiiii~~ Hope you’ve been well!
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    Omg, Li Xian……I have no words…..🌼🌸…..

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      Dear @lugirl131415 maknae!!!! Hope you are well too!!

      I heard from Outie that you watched Enlighten Me and so happy to hear that we are all on Team Nuan Nuan!! She might be one of the most awesome Dramaland heroines ever, and Enlighten Me might be one of the best workplace Cdramas (mostly because they are generally so terrible. 😅.) In the end I was even rooting for the romance just because it would make NN happy!! I am now watching Fake Princess for Eleanor Lee lol.

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        Ahhh! I loved Nuan Nuan and Eleanor portrayed her so well. I originally was planning to drop the drama as I was not liking Han Che and the romance (he was a jerk and too hot and cold) but @lugirl131415 convinced me to keep going and I’m glad I did as it ended up being such a lovely drama. I loved her story and strength. Her working her way from the lowest of the low to finding and following her new dreams. It was lovely.

        And I plan to start Fake Princess this weekend! Been holding off since the subs are soooo slow for us non-Chinese speaking peasants 😭

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        My lovely Noona!!! I am well and am very glad to hear from you~

        Yes! #TeamNuanNuan all day, everyday!
        She is truly one of the most realistic and inspiring heroines I’ve watched! Her journey was amazing and you just can’t help but root for her all the way. Major props to Eleanor the crying, hardworking, cute, and funny scenes so you could just feel for her.
        And I agree with the romance. Han Che annoyed me quite a bit but the last couple episodes won me over (it was just OTP cuteness overload 🥰.) I think it helped that the romance arc didn’t seem to play out as the main plot. It felt like Han Che was just part of her journey to maturing and finding her own happiness.
        Also, so true about workplace Cdramas! Not many can balance it out as well as Enlighten did and make it as interesting as it was. I ended up being quite intrigued by the fashion industry so that is a great plus.
        How’s Fake Princess, by the way. I wanted to start it and I think @trinpie (she’s also on Team Nuan Nuan! I mean, who isn’t if they’ve watch the show) will be starting it later this weekend. Tell me if it’s any good! I do miss Eleanor on my screen.

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          @trinpie and @lugirl131415,

          You know one of my favorite moments in Enlighten Me? When NN thought HC kissed Lin Jia JI on the rooftop during that photoshoot, she didn’t sulk. But what did our awesome heroine do? She took charge!! The first moment they had alone in the car NN kissed him hard to “sanitize” his lips!! 🤣🤣🤣 Oh I love her.

          I am currently on episode 17 of Fake Princess. I think it will be fore me one of those dramas I will forget about as soon as I finish watching. Eleanor is still awesome here and the show is a fluffy and fun. My main complain for the first 12 episodes is actually that it is “too fluffy”…..like there is not much that is happening and then bam!!! Angst hits super hard….like really really hard for both the OTP and the secondary couple. 😭

          But no worries, the angst is quite short lived but now my complain becomes…..after all they have been through the OTP knows that both of them are willing to sacrifice everything for each other so the new conflicts seem so trivial? As you see, I am impossible to be satisfied. 😅

          I do hope the subs will pick it its pace! I do think that among so many new Cdramas this past couple months this might be one of the better ones out there!

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            I’m on ep 3! I’m really liking it and of course loving Eleanor’s character 😆

            The other dramas I’m watching right now is Fox and Miss Rose and The Winner is Love which I’m quite liking both.

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In order to live up to the name \”Kinkbap\” @mayhemf bestowed on me of course it means I have to check of the dorama You Are the Biggest Mistake in My Life with the premise of the ML asking the FML to take him as her slave.

After 2 episodes I don\’t know what to think about the drama except that the ML is a seriously creepy boss who the show is trying to portray as funny acting very inappropriately toward his employee

And that it has one of the most amazing bowing sequence I have ever seen

#TheBiggestMistakeinMyDramaLife?

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    I watched this at 3:00 am this morning, and was not quite sure what to make of it. Is it trying to turn the normally subservient Japanese female lead trope on its head? Because it’s not working. Being coerced into being a dom in the way that is being shown here is just as problematic as any other controlling relationship with a power imbalance.

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      Exactly my feeling @egads! I cannot decide if the show is or will be clever enough to offer cultural insight or even critique of the systematic gender imbalance. Just judging from the first couple episodes, I don’t have great hopes and I am not sure if I care enough to stick around to find out.

      Few things which do not give me confidence in the show:
      1) She was drugged by her date and the bartender, fought for herself which was great, but then she still had to be taken care of by the ML
      2) Her interest seemed to be piqued by him even though he had shown nothing but creepiness IMO
      3) Despite wanting to be her slave, he still kissed her without her permission
      4) If this is a story of her embracing her dom side, I can totally get behind that. But so far her dom outbursts just seemed to be as surprising to herself as anyone and mainly served as random acts to turn him on….GROSS!

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    For a second I thought this was going to be a Love, February post.

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    Kink, what gifs are these youโ€™re showing to us! 🙈🙈🙈🙈

    It maybe your kink to slide down the handrail but please put a warning sign for the younginโ€™s to not do this at home! 🙉🙉🙉

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Someday or One Day is a fantasy romance but poignancy comes through so realistically and touchingly because it deals with a subject that is not easy….it is about how to face the sudden loss of a loved one….how can one deal with such longing for somenoe who had been such a significant part of your life and how must a person move on to survive through guilt even when no one is at fault.

The intimacy of the wonderful writing with apt direction really makes me feel like I am part of these characters\’lives. The lead actors are fantastic portraying these characters at varying places and different times.

Greg Hsu\’s character at the discovery of his budding feelings

Greg Hsu\’s softly gazing at his love after many happy years during one of the most touching conversations I have seen recently in Dramaland

Each episode I see the affirmation of their love and through their eyes I feel how they are loved by one another.

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At the end of episode 2 of Someday or One Day, the twist reveals itself when the Chinese title surfaces in her text to him:
Wishing to See You
โ€œThis yearโ€™s birthday, my 3rd wish, is a wish to you. That wish, is, wanting to see you.

The lyrics of the theme song start to gain significance…
🎵 You can softly, tenderly, follow my footsteps. Let the beautiful memories slowly repeat 🎵
Trust Persistance Courage

Despite so many beautifully heart wrenching scenes, the show doesn\’t forget to cheer us on! The sign on the wall states โ€œTrust, Persistence, Courage. With these there is nothing you canโ€™t do in the world.โ€
I trust you, Show. Please be merciful to my soul.

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    I love all the OSTs in this drama Kimbap!

    The ending song hits the core – hopefully viki provided the most accurate translation but a line from the ending song was – โ€œwould there be another dimension, another body, that could give us an alternate ending?โ€ 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭.

    Could you please tell me what the title of the ending song? I thought it was Miss You 3000 but apparently itโ€™s the singerโ€™s album title!

    2nd gif was sooooo painful to watch 😭😭 she said she wasnโ€™t gonna try on the virtual reality device. She didnโ€™t shed a tear at his funeral (I did.. those Happy pictures of Him on the projector auuuugh!), but once sheโ€™s all alone, she went and used that virtual reality device just to see him one more time! Sheโ€™s in so much agony, ottoke! 😭

    And when sheโ€™s trying so hard to find faults in him…. so that she can have โ€œreasonโ€ to let go.

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      Hunting down evidence of his “infidelity” with Vicky…..trying to search for traces of his less than pure intention for being with her….all so she can see the imperfect him, all so she can start love him a little less and maybe resent him a little more 😭😭😭

      When she finally couldn’t help herself and went back to the office to try the device and then wrapping her arms around empty space……

      I do love all the songs so far in the show @13infamyss! The ending song is ๆƒณ่ฆ‹ไฝ ๆƒณ่ฆ‹ไฝ ๆƒณ่ฆ‹ไฝ , English title Miss You 3000 (or the title of the show repeated 3 times “Wanting to See You, Wanting to See You, Wanting to See You”) by the singer named 831.

      Here is the link of the official MV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iRupuNet3Q

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        She tried hard to love him less, but no, he was the perfect boyfriend 😭

        Thanks Kimbap! So it is Miss You 3000! I thought that was the groupโ€™s album title.

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    I have a feeling that the show will have a happy ending for all its main characters!

    Did you see the elevator scene? it’s my favorite.

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      Do you mean the elevator scene where with the opening of each floor she sees how they celebrate that particular birthday? So beautifully and poetically done…..

      Oh please, let it be a happy ending for all….even if they are all just different versions of oneself!

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    1998 part is very high on nostalgia for me, their school reminds me of mine, even the walls had the same colour! And kids rode bikes around and had to secretly park them.

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      The show sure brings back memories of my youth growing up in Taiwan! My school had the same navy blue pleated skirt and crisp white collar shirt for uniform….and boys just as cute at least filtered through my rose-colored memories!! 😆

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        You had cutie pies like Li Zi Wei and Mo Jun Jie at your school??😆😆😆

        Wearing Uniforms in where I am is only for the elite kids. So itโ€™s the 1% of population – the private schools. I didnโ€™t wear school uniform.

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          Oh … In my school we all had uniform but not with numbers, yes my school also had its fair share of cutie boys and very beautiful girls, and its fair shair share of criminals and more than its fair share of deaths.

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          We had a student number that was used on a fairly regular basis in exam papers & school documents etc, but we didn’t wear it separately like a badge on us…. I think our school ID had it, & it was compulsory to wear it around our necks

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        My high school had those kind of good looking boys, but as soon as they opened their mouths cuss words (disparaging against women in general type) would flow out of them so that killed off any attraction 😆

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          😆 I think that’s basically how Yu Xuan feels @maybemaknae once she gets over the fact that Zi Wei looks exactly like Quan Sheng….Zi Wei speaks like an immature high school student who likes to get a good view of the field on the rooftop!

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      Taiwanese school is interesting. @outofthisworld mentioned how they had their school numbers on their uniform. Make the numbers a little bigger and the student would look like inmates 😅

      I Find it interesting that the school here looked very dated, not properly painted/maintained… perhaps a representation of the kind of schools in the countryside.

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        I didn’t have numbers on my uniform for my schools but had to sew these plastic little tags onto the shirt identifying which year and which class I was!

        I do think the production team does try to have the schools look more like less well funded rural schools in Taiwan with a tinge of 90’s nostalgia of the faded painted desks and chairs.

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    Doesn’t he look like just like Yoon Hyun-min?

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      Now you mention it, yeah @lindag, I can see the resemblance!

      To me Greg Hsu has this really unique boyish charm and playfulness that works so well for his character in the show. His eyes sparkle and his smiles inviting….he portrays both Li Zi Wei and Wang Quan Sheng so seamlessly. Are you watching the show as well?

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        I actually have never watched a Taiwanese drama.

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          Despite growing up in Taiwan, I have watched the least numbers of Tw-dramas than Korea, Japanese, and Chinese productions. For me they do sometimes have a pretty distinct feel or tone to them, and I might argue probably the most open about subjects regarding intimacy.

          I hope you consider giving this drama a try! This is fast becoming my favorite TW drama @lindag!
          *crosses fingers for a satisfying ending

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            I have watched a few of Taiwanese drama (actually the first i watched had Alice ke, the main actress, it was called office girls)
            But this is by far my total favourite!

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    ahhhh you describe it so beautifully, you’re really selling it to me! i’m this close to biting the bullet and starting haha.

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      Thank you @meltingfrost! I cannot believe with just couple episodes this show has completely captured my heart. I hope you do decide to watch it soon and squee (or cry 😆) with me!!

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        So I bit the bullet 🤣
        I went to check the first episode out of curiosity….and I honestly didnโ€™t realize where the time went and reached the 5th LOL. I havenโ€™t binged like that in so long! The most curious thing is that it doesnโ€™t have a suspenseful, cliffhanger pull. Itโ€™s a very quiet, understated addicting draw, where youโ€™re actually living the characterโ€™s lives. Iโ€™m pleasantly surprised! It has some t-drama tropes (mainly those quirky characters that they ALWAYS have) but it honestly wasnโ€™t enough to take away from the rest of the beautiful story (yet). The OST! So beautiful. And Iโ€™m so impressed that the same actors can create chemistry with each other in one dimension and not much in the other but that you see something growing there.
        I equal parts resent you and appreciate you for introducing this lollllll hereโ€™s to another time investment! 😭😆❤️

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          OMG @meltingfrost that is AWESOME!! And it is totally within your right to resent me for the dark circles you may have under your eyes today. 😂😂😂

          I am already listening to the OST on loop on my commute to work today and I have a feeling I will keep listening for a long time!

          I agree that it is not necessary the suspense, but the characters’ longing for one another and the fight to remain emotionally intact despite grief and guilt…all so wistfully handled by the direction and the writing. I am glad Greg Hsu is able to inject so much warmth to the role to make it bearable through it all.

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      I agree! I’ve been staying away from this because sci-fi is not my thing. But seeing everyone rave about it, I am tempted to dip my fingers in too.

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        I agree Iโ€™ve rarely seen it done well anyway. But as youโ€™ll see above I gave it a chance already 😆 and itโ€™s this slow, nostalgic beauty so far! The scifi aspect realistically obviously makes no sense, but I was so drawn in to the characters I didnโ€™t notice it, and was as invested in the sci-fi aspect with them as they were.

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    AWWWWEEE

    Wait, so the Chinese title of the show is Wanting To See You???

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    Ahh that gif ❤️❤️❤️❤️

    Oh how I wish you’d come join us on discord, we spazz like crazy over there!

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      Haham @maybemaknae I am sure once I have caught up with the show, I will need to spazz with all of you!! Do you talk about the drama mostly on the C-drama Discord?

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        We have different channels there, but yes we talk about cdramas a lot! __Spontaneous chat happens there, what with reactions & gifs & spoiler function, it’s easy to chat without spoiling the suspense for other watchers.

        Come try it once, you’ll like it. It’s like rabbit but better in the chat aspect.

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This might be the sweetest traffic violation! Since the subtitle only translated partially, I thought Someday or One Day Beanies might take pleasure to know:
-The ticket is issued form โ€œTao Yuan County (where the main airport is) Police Precinct Bureau for Reporting Love Violationโ€
-The instigator is โ€œLoveโ€
-The stamp says โ€œYu Xuan please marry Zi Wei. Immediately pick a date to get marriedโ€
-It is issued to โ€œLoveโ€
Proposal Violation
-The driverโ€™s license number is โ€œ520โ€ (which sounds similar to โ€œI love youโ€ in Mandarin)
-For some reason the cop writes โ€œchu miโ€ (sound of 🐥🐱) after โ€œYu Xuan ~~~~marry himโ€
-The ticket is for 9999 TWD (approximately $330) 😱 Thatโ€™s one steep โ€œlove violationโ€

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    @13infamyss, @mayhemf, @oppafangirl, @outofthisworld, @leetennant and all the Beanies who might be watching the show!

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    And it just occurred to me that the ticket is for 9999 TWD is because the number nine is a homonym of “long” meaning they will be together for a long long long long time! Awwwww ❤️

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    Thatโ€™s so cute, thank you Kimbap!
    Iโ€™m enjoying this drama so much!

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    Omg! Thank you for this, it is just so freaking cute!

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      At first I was not sure about the concept of employing a marriage proposal agency but now this makes much more sense! It sure worked hard for its fee and paid lots of attention to details! 😂

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        Yes totally, i love people who had in precious little details, it makes it so much more fun to read it agin later.

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    Thank you soo much for translating Kimbap!!! The translations have once again failed us and thank you for coming to the rescue!!!

    But my eyes went 👀 reading The stamp – Yu Xuan marry Zi Wei????? The drama spoiled it??? 😱😱

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      Also I personally thought Vicky should be fired for planning a public proposal like this and on the day sheโ€™s rushing to leave to the airport! 🙈 Iโ€™m not a public kind of person so anything of this kind of display in public embarrasses me. And I just thought what if it went to different directorion and Yu Xuan did not say yes to him! Oh the horror!

      But these little details are so cute!

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      OMG I failed you, again @13infamyss…..Not Zi Wei…..it says “Quan Sheng.” The drama didn’t fail you, I did. I did.

      Twice in 1 day…..*sobs, runs away, and hides

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        See? The fanwall recognizes my epic failure toward you @13infamyss and it refused to even let me tag you…..😭😭😭

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          Thanks kink! Lmao todayโ€™s not the day! Weโ€™ve all had that kind of day. Anyways the names might be confusing to you for now because youโ€™re early in the drama.

          But to clarify – Li Zi Wei and Chen Yun Ru are the doppelgรคngers from 1998!

          Huang Yu Xuan and Wang Quan Sheng are in 2019! 😉😉😉

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        Oh poor kimbap, hugs!

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    AWWEEE This was cute! Thanks for translating Noona!

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I have waited to watch Someday or One Day just because I knew that with one episode a week the suspense would become the death of me! I finally started today and 20 minutes in I am already in love with the showโ€™s wistful toneโ€ฆ..it is gonna tear my heart out, isnโ€™t it? 😭😭😭

Even though the drama is fantasy, one thing strikes so real to meโ€ฆthat the OTP would meet up at a drink shop in Taiwan.
Drink Shop

If you do make such plans with friends in the city, make sure you specify which one! This pic is taken next to the metro station exit near my parentsโ€™ place in Taipei where there are FOUR drink shops next to each other with more scattered around the block!! 😆

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#beverageFTW

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    Youโ€™ve finally started!!! The first two episodes are very sad and heartbreaking, youโ€™ll be with her in her journey of getting over (or lack thereof) throughout. 😑

    And thanks for that cafe suggestion! I would love to visit Taiwan someday – all those beautiful temples I see on my friendsโ€™ fb pages.

    I wondered if the Wu Baiโ€™s Last Dance is a childhood song for you, Kimbap! Itโ€™s such a good song.

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      Ooh @13infamyss the first episode is such an emotional roller coaster…..the memories….the cakes….Vicky…the ring….and I understand perfectly how his parents are ready to move on. I don’t remember the last time an episode made me tear up so many times but I have never been able to deal with death well in a story.

      The music is already so lovely throughout the first episode. Wu Bai is definitely a musician from my childhood, but the song Last Dance was released in 2012….and I was definitely a very grown adult by then! 😂

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        Omiiiiigod! I just noticed it now. Youโ€™ve changed your name to the correct and fitting one!!!! 😆😆😆

        I am same. I donโ€™t deal with death well and so watching her go through that hurt so much.

        Hmmmmm…. Iโ€™m disappointed. This is a fault on the production team.. in the drama, the song was supposed to be a 1998 song…. 🤔🤔🤔

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    I just read the synopsis on MyDramaList.Com and… the relationship between the characters sounds sooooooo complicated !

    Enjoy!
    *beanie finger hearts*

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      But it’s an excellent show….

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        Have you caught up to the latest episode yet @oppafangirl? Just judging by the emotional pull of the first episode I can see myself binge my way through episode 10 in a couple days. 😅

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          I am watching 2-3 episodes a day, i am episode 5 now and i think i will watch ep6 as well. I will watch till ep11 by Sunday and then wait for two weeks to end… I hope i will be able to do it by raving a lot about the show on fanwall.

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      Thank you @kethysk! I sure hope that the drama would be able to sort out all these complications in a sensical way toward the end….but maybe by then it wouldn’t matter…I would take a happy ending even induced by headscratching metaphysical force that reunites the OTP like Queen Inhyun’s Man!

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I love this tweet by the senior writer for Rolling Stone India Riddhi Chakraborty in which she speaks of why she loves The Untamed, as well as how she sees the Chiense censorship:

“Itโ€™s important for our community to have stories like thisโ€”a pure love story that doesnโ€™t become a tragedy because the main couple are two men. They are happy and #theyhaveason! Of course I wish the censorship didnโ€™t exist and that they could show them getting married and being intimate (like they do in the original novel) because thatโ€™s all very much part of our lives as human beings, BUT… this is a step in the right direction.”

For those Beanies who might not be interested in the Boys Love genre, I would urge you to give this drama a try.

Here is Ms. Chakraborty’s moving and beautifully written tweet

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    I will forever appreciate the writers and directors for putting in the work to get past the censorship. Honestly, they could have gone the lazy route and it would have taken away from what made the book/magna so damn special.

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      So many things could have gone so wrong, but instead we got a drama that is so enriching and satisfying in so many ways. After what happened to The Addicted and how much of the story was altered for Guardian, it is an incredible feat for The Untamed to stay so true to MXTX’s MDZS.

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        Guardian was so disappointing. Yes, I said it.

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          😆😆😆 I think most viewers finished the drama because they love the novel and Bai Yu/Zhu Yilong euphoric chemistry! Considering the production woes and the uncertainty dealing with censorship, fans definitely gave the drama lots of slack imo.

          I really wanted to like it but after 3 separate attempts I only lasted as long as episode 20 and got my fill from fan edit YT vids.

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            Having pretty people attempt to make googly eyes can only get you so far in a series.

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            I only made it 20 episodes in and just couldn’t keep going. The only good thing was the main characters and actors. Everything else about this drama was so so bad.

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        it was quite a feat for the production team for the hard work that they have done and of course, let’s not forget our Xiao Zhan and Wang Yibo for their amazing performance as WWX and LWJ.

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    This was my first BL drama. I donโ€™t know why I havenโ€™t seen one before. It just happened to be. Am so happy this was the first and that this show was so poignant that it beats all love stories. The show made me fall in love with their love and itโ€™s going to be so hard moving away from this. Everything just pales in comparison.

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      There is a pretty small number of BL dramas available and even a smaller number of BL dramas which are good. Most are low budget productions made for a core audience, but good ones have a lot of heart. But the incredible success of dramas like Guardian and now The Untamed certainly made the industry take notice and now there are dozens of BL dramas in various stages of production in China.

      I hear ya @mayhemf about how now everything else just pales in comparison. Their love is grand but also subtle at the same time. It is just so epic in every way.

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        Here is hoping, but like all once in a lifetime dramas, people are gonna want this to be the norm and not the exception. When will these studios/production companies get that. The tide is changing and people are growing. Get it together.

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        I’m just worried because with how China is they might actually start getting more stringent in their censorship because of how popular The Untamed (and Guardian) were. There have been many ridiculous censorship laws that have come about because of certain dramas being popular.

        So I am worried for these future BL productions and that they may be even more gutted then what Guardian was. I hope I’m wrong.

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    Ooh awesome that you post this! I read this a while ago and really like what she said.

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      I never really perceived Untamed as a BL. Just a profound love story. Never thought the drama really needed intimacy of what we think of as “BL”. It was just perfect as it was.
      But in the novel the BL intimacy worked really fine.

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        “I never really perceived Untamed as a BL. Just a profound love story.”

        ME TOO !!! And I also feel this way about the book as well. I never saw it as BL, just a epic love story.

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          I think I understand your pointย @linda-palapalaย andย @larelle79, which might be that love is love regardless gender, which I wholeheartedly agree. But since depiction of homosexual love is so rare in dramas that we should not lessen the significance of the success of theย The Untamedย here!
          Even though I am no expert of the BL genre and its historical evolution, the works in the genre does not always include explicit portrayals of sexual intimacy (if thatโ€™s indeed what you are referring to, which I could totally misunderstood.) I now have read quite a few BL novels which do not include any sex scenes. Also, the fact that MXTX is considered a BL genre writer and TU is an adaptation of her work, I would consider TU a BL drama despite some changes made due to censorship and/or artistic choice by the scriptwriters.
          But perhaps this is all beside the point!! I am just so happy to hear from a significant member of the Asian LGBTQ community like Riddhi Chakraborty who loves and appreciates the work and finds consolation in the dramaโ€™s success. That is meaningful for me as a firm supporter of gay rights.

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            I’m also a supporter, and TU is a great intro to BL stories, showing those who’ve never tried BL (due to prejudice) that it’s okay and maybe not quite what they imagine . And I’m certainly not trying to lessen the significance of Untamed success – it was beyond successful and even more significant to the success and advancement of BL stories because it was such a beautiful love story, even without showing the intimacy of the novel. Especially for those who never tried anything BL and think they wouldn’t be interested, just because it’s labeled “BL”. (I’m speaking of a dear friend, who I’ve never convinced to watch BL yet). TU is such a great introduction to anything BL.
            I just thought the drama was intimate enough without needing to see anything more explicit – in this particular case and drama, not as a general rule and not discounting other BL novels and dramas.
            One of my favorite dramas is Addicted, and even though it was censored and then cancelled I was so curious about what the 2nd season would have been like, so much so that I read the novel. Well, at least most of it – I was a bit disappointed in the 2nd half of the novel but for other reasons.
            I watch all of the Taiwanese HIStory and applaud their success. Even though the production quality is small (since they have a lot less money than mainland China) I’d support their artistic works anyway.
            But, all in all and tbh, I like BL dramas in general because they seem to be able to act more naturally with each other and not forced romance/forced chemisty like so many “normal” (I don’t know what other word to use for male/female!) dramas. I like the way the male characters are written usually more than the way the female characters are written.
            I really want to watch S.C.I. that was out in 2018, but can’t find it anywhere – anyone ever hear of this c-drama?
            These thoughts are kind of random and all over the place, but right now that’s how my brain is processing! I understand your point and agree with it, but then my thinking went beyond…

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            Oops, I got so into this discussion that I just burned up my teapot…

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            One more last thought that came to me as I was cleaning my teapot: what started me thinking was when I was trying to figure out what words and explanations to use to get a friend to watch the TU. If I’d tell her it was BL she would never even try it, not in the least interested. But using the words “soulmates” or “cultivation partners who solve mysteries together” and “it has a happy ending”, it’s fantasy, etc., then she might try it and like it.

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            Oh no! I hope that wasn’t your favorite teapot, @linda-palapala!

            S.C.I is available on your usual suspect websites, but unfortunately I see now all episodes are subbed. But since it is a procedural with 5 episodes per case, perhaps it is possible to watch selectively?

            I have heard good things about the show, and that the drama did its best to stay true to the OTP as portrayed by the novel although there are some changes with the side characters. It even has a lesbian couple in the show. Imagine that!! I believe that the show had achieved some well deserved success that there is talk of a second season.

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          I don’t even consider WangXian as gay. they were just two persons who fell for each other deeply.

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    I have a like dislike relationship with Riddhi…. I dislike half her articles because they read more like a personal diary than an interview, but I kinda love her social media posts.

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    Very well said. As I’m sure everyone knows, I love this drama. But one thing that made me especially love this drama is the impact it had on my mom.

    My mom is very mormon which I’m sure lots of people know are against anything LGBTQ+. I’ve had many discussions about this with her as I am a very strong supporter of gay rights, but she always held to the belief of ‘love the people but not the sin’ (because being born a certain way I suppose makes you a sinner). However, she has specifically told me that she has started to see the LGBTQ+ community in a different light. She is more obsessed with The Untamed then me as she has seen it atleast 5+ times, read the book and also read Heaven’s Official Blessing, watched the BTS, and watched all the fan meets. She loves the relationship in the drama and finds it beautiful. She has even lamented that she wished they kissed. And now in other dramas (like My Country) she will even be like ‘they should be a couple’ to 2 male characters. And the other day she sent me the below image:

    I told her it looks like my favorite scene from the book (where he is blindfolded and Lan Zhan takes total advantage of him 😏) and her response was ‘It’s my favorite scene also’.

    So even if I didn’t love the drama already, the impact it had on my mom alone, and the fact it changed some of her thoughts on gay relationships and the LGBTQ+ community makes this drama one of the most important, impactful and beloved drama I’ve ever encountered.

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      Thank you so much for sharing this, @trinpie. I am deeply moved hearing how this drama has such an impact on you in such a personal way. Cheers to this great drama for its ability to make such change one person at a time!! I am hopeful for the future.

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      Wow, thanks for sharing – it means a lot, especially knowing some people really can open their hearts and a drama like Untamed can have a positive effect because of its message of love.

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Lord have mercy. 😭😭😭 Let me perish right here, right now, Your Grace.

On the Moon

Just when I thought your best look is normcore of a comfy sweater or a nicely tailored suit, you decide to do this.

Fan

Rid of that offensive fan away!! Why does it frame your face even better than WWX\’s Dizi?
Bazaar Shoot

Yes, you are just gonna break our heart and be a villain in the next project, aren\’t you?
Please do, because you can do anything, and do it well.
Calm the F Down
You make it too easy to be a fan. Just please give me one reason to love you less for self preservation.

#IamJustNotThatIntoYou

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Kimbapnoona\’s \”End of the Decade\” List Part 11

The Drama That Provoked the Deepest Obsession: The Untamed

The Untamed is a giant vortex that sucked me further and further down to new dimensions.

From the drama,

To the novel and the author Mo Xiang Tong Xiu\’s other works,

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To the audio drama, to the donghua,

To the TU bts videos,

To the cast\’s interviews,

To the BJYX/XZ/WYB fandom,

To the Land of Chinese BL novels which I have had so much fun discovering this genre of literature I knew nothing about.

And last but not least, thank you The Untamed for introducing us to Xiao Zhan who made an honest fangirl out of me!

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Kimbapnoona\’s \”End of the Decade\” List Part 10

\”The Drama That Makes Me Doubt if My Eyes Are Connected to My Brain:
Rich Man, Poor Woman (Korean Adaptation)

You know how sometimes even though junk food has garbage nutritional value but it\’s so satisfyingly tasty that you just cannot stop eating it?

This is not that drama. This is just garbage.

Honorable Mention: Evergreen

Stop spreading the magic pollen and spike the drinks with it! Gross!

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    Special thanks to @wishfultoki for enduring through RMPW with me! Drama comrade indeed!

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      Ha! Iโ€™m currently enjoying Park Sung Hoonโ€™s performance as a slick serial killer(!) in Psychopath Diary. I think he was totally wasted as a second lead in RMPW.

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        Haha @wishfultoki whose talent wasn’t wasted in RMPW?

        Just browsing over PSH’s filmography and realized that I actually have watched many dramas he was involved in. So glad to see him getting more significant roles the last couple years!! There is something about putting one’s time and gaining as much experience as possible even if the process is not always pretty! 😆

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    Evergreen gif credit ย @giegie0384

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Kimbapnoona\’s \”End of the Decade\” List Part 9

Best Character Who Suffers the Most Unjustified Fate: Song Ji-won, Age of Youth
Song Ji-won is a girl who is the dearest to my heart and I aspire to be her brazen self

She was everything I wanted in a heroine -intelligent, courageous, loyal, and caring. Therefore I was completely destroyed by seconds of two epilogues toward the end. I will take my bitterness toward the writer for doing that to my beloved character to my grave kicking and screaming, without even the courtesy of making it part of the narratives just to seemingly to bludgeon the tragedy onto viewers\’s head when least expected.

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    she was sooo entertaining !
    and for the Show to NOT let her actually have the guy… *le sigh*

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      The SsongSong couple was the best! I love seeing them together so so so much.

      But that’s the thing, @kethysk, the writer did tell us that eventually they will be together and have an adorable daughter together, except….except….except….*cries
      And she didn’t even let us see how they eventually got together either……*wrings handkerchief

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Kimbapnoona\’s \”End of the Decade\” List Part 8

The Drama with the Most Uncontrollable Urge to Ship: Avengers Social Club
Is it really so morally wrong to ship the underage son with his stepmom?
Yes, it is, kimbap. It truly is.
*slaps self left *slaps self right

Honorable Mention: Avengers Social Club, aka โ€œThe Drama That Makes Me Ship the Underage Sonโ€™s Underage Friend Who Makes Seafood Ramen for Stepmom Morning After Heavy Drinking\”

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    I have also wrote a sequel in my mind for ASC in which the story begins withthe now divorced FML and her no-longer son return together to the seaside town where he grew up cooking lots of seafood ramen when her two ahjumma BFFs join them to start a little investigative (which leads to again not so successful avenging) agency for the town folks in the area.

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      And Jung hye not knowing the price of ramen will never not be funny. She was straight gonna up throw hundreds of dollars at it.

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        The value of the ramen for her certain is much much more than the cost!! 🤣🤣🤣
        Her serious cluelessness is so endearing.

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      I honestly waited till the last ep for something to happen and it never did sobs

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    This was a great series that really should have a special or second season. Maybe open a agency.

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    This is the ship that tested many of our morals. If it’s so bad, then why does it feel so good. lmao.

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      In the end they really needed one another. Honestly, he needed a paternal adult and those ladies were as close as he had and I was happy for him. A romantic aspect really would have felt off in the end and totally out of character for Jung hye.

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      🤣🤣🤣That’s right @1tea1, we should just trust our innate feelings!! Following human instincts never led anyone down the dark path I’d say.

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    I really need to finish this drama with my ahjumma friends.

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    *laughs embarrassed in utter recognition of this double ship*

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      The fact that embarrassment is an emotion you could still readily identify here @cloggie means that you are a much more of an upstanding citizen of the world than me.

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        Well, all I’ll say that they wouldn’t be the most problematic otp in kdramaland. Only very very close to the most problematic otp… But – I still remember her ex-husband saying that they weren’t family anymore after the divorce, so there’s that

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    riiiight?!? I remember loving this show and also wishing they’d get together and then thinking, “Kethy… GROSS!!” and yet…

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    Well I don’t think I’d have the heart for this if I’ll be rooting for a ship that shouldn’t happen. 😅
    I already did that with Angry Mom even if he wasn’t the son but the shipping hurts. 😂😫
    I can’t beanies, I can’t.

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Kimbapnoona\’s \”End of the Decade\” List Part 7

The Greatest \”Oh It Hurts So Good So Please Continue to Rip My Heart Out\” Drama: Seven Day Queen
This is the drama I love to pieces when it tears me apart. The pain felt so visceral that I couldnโ€™t comment much on its recap because it hurt too much to relive each episode (I am a biggest coward, I know.) I still cannot make myself watch the last episode despite much assurances from Beanies that the ending for the disposed queen is beautifully satisfying.

Thank you for a beautifully told story of two people who are caught in impossible circumstances who must make the right decisions for reasons other than themselves.

And you know when you watch a sageuk with the most wonderful child actors that you almost want the story just to be about them as kids? This is one of those dramas for me.

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Kimbapnoona\’s \”End of the Decade\” List Part 6

The Most Delightful Drama: Put Your Head on My Shoulder
All my favorite tropes (cohabitation, contract relationship, boy falling in love first) executed to perfection! The ML might look like a tsundere, but he is 100% beta who falls head over heels for our sassy heroine MoMo. Itโ€™s fluff because both leads are pretty much their mature selves from the beginning, except maybe Gu Wei Yi embarked on a steep learning curve on how to flirt (from the most unexpected bromance gang of a jealous labmate and ahjussi professor)

And also researching online about the female reproductive system after a not so successful first attempt (yes, that\’s right, a youth drama went there 😱😱😱 wrapped in a #practicesafesex Durex PPL)

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    I just loved that Wei yi just wanted to be the best at everything for Momo. I mean, how often does that happen in dramas.

    When he saw her grade sheet on him, he was not upset and there were not 3 episodes of miscommunication or emoting, he went out to see how he can get a 100% on it.

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    I was honestly surprised when they went there 😮 (to me, there seemed to be a lot of romantic tension- not so much sexual). Looking back, I like that Wei Yi didnโ€™t let it affect how he felt about himself or each other- he just focused on how it could be better next time.
    The ending episode or so felt forced, but I loved it to pieces before then.

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      Love that about GWY too @artgirl!! His methodical approach is totally is consistent with the scientific spirit, even if most men would see that as an existential crisis of one’s manhood! 🤣🤣🤣

      I get what you mean by the final couple episodes, but I was dreading for the worst since many dramas have a tendency to fall off the cliff toward the end especially when the expectation was so great. I am also glad that the drama got rid off quite a few of the more makjang plot lines the original novel has so for that I was grateful.

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      I feel you on the ending but then again, it made sense for those two. They were gonna be ride or die anyway and their cluelessness just helped them along.

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    my absolute fav fluff for 2019!

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    I’m forever grateful of Youtube for recommending this drama to me. I was never really into youth dramas because I felt like I way passed that mentality but omg PYHONMS is so cute and fluffy and squeal-worthy but at the same time sensible and relatable. It’s my no.1 feel-good drama of 2019!

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Kimbapnoona\’s \”End of the Decade\” List Part 5

Most Satisfying Youth Drama: Weightlifting Fairy Kim Bok Joo
My first time of loving a drama so much that I would watch it raw, and then again few hours later when the subs are complete. Bok-joo and her growth, together with her group of friends and family who love and support her is just….you know…

WLFKBJ is also one of the most adorable friends-to-lovers drama of the decade.

I cannot fault Joon-hyung\’s sensical reaction here for having only seconds to assess the situation.

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Kimbapnoona\’s \”End of the Decade\” List Part 4

Best Beanie Group Watching Experience: Meteor Garden (2018)
The group watching was so much fun (perhaps more so) even though the drama was anything but perfect! The around the clock chat, the snark, comparative cross-medium examination with the awesome Hana Yori Dango expert-in-resident @dokutokunaneko, Beanies sharing the love for DiDi (and his coats) and the hate for Caina, and witnessing many of the WTF moments all are bits of the whole experience impossible to forget, just as if your own sister would do a striptease for your wedding!

Thank you for supporting each other suffering the MG Stockholm Syndrome through god knows how many kidnapping!

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Kimbapnoona\’s \”End of the Decade\” List Part 3

Best DB Recap Experience with Beanies: Because This Life is Our First
You know this is an experience like no other when Beanies like me would painfully stay awake until the middle of the night for the recap to be posted so I can comment and interact with Beanies even if I have to work early the next day! The story exceeds my expectation week after week with the sensitive portrayals of the personal and social struggles of some of the most three-dimensional characters until…..

Sigh, how did that drama in the end repay my love with the last 2 episodes by flipping the heroine\’s character 180 midair like how Se-hee would to avoid damaging a motorbike? Or was it 3? I donโ€™t remember. I have self-induced amnesia necessary for my drama existential preservation. I couldn\’t even click on the recaps toward the end. BTLIOF could have been the perfect slice-of-life drama with the most mature OTP until Ji-ho wasnโ€™t. Therefore, this also earns my Most Disappointing Character Arc of the Decade.

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    I spy my gifs

    Ji-ho is perfectly unperfect

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    I never got the hate for her. 🤷‍♀️
    See her was WONDERFUL, but I can completely see how she wouldn’t realize how deeply he cared, he did not give her a lot of cues. Even in the last half his best friend was surprised to find out he cared for her and not the ex. She didnt know she was starring in a romcom.

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    Aaaaaaah we had SO MUCH FUN on this one!

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    yes, what a woooonderful Beanie (FanWall/Comments/LiveAiring) experience this was!! I am sooo glad I was able to join at the time !
    what made it even more satisfying (in a twisted sense) is how we ALL felt mortally hurt by the last 2 episodes. like there was a worldwide WHOOSH of sighs and disappointment.
    ha ha ha

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Kimbapnoona\’s \”End of the Decade\” List Part 2

Best Rom Com: Queen In Hyunโ€™s Man
Kim Boong-do might still be my favorite ML character ever and whatโ€™s not to love about this intelligent and soft-spoken hero who would do anything to be together with our heroine? What surprised me more though was how much I also love the ditzy Hee-jin who is the smartest woman at finding excuses for kisses! 😘😘😘😘😘

In addition to all the squee inducing moments, QIHM is the only drama which made me burst into tears the moment the hero finally gave up all hopes. I still consider his letter to her travelling through milleniums as one of the most moving love letters on par with Captain Wentworth\’s letter to Anne Elliot in Jane Austen\’s Persuasion.


Thank you for so much toe curling moments!

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    This letter still gives me goosebumps 8 years later…

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    I love this drama so much. Also I’m definitely buying lots of ties later.

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    Yes! I love this drama and it’s one of my most re-watched!

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    I loved this drama too; it was very daring in its sexy skinship for the time!
    For me, nothing quite beats the RomCom of “Her Private Life” (very mature communicative couple) and “Healer” (ride-or-die power couple).
    ๐Ÿ™‚

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      For sure @kethysk! It was daringly sexy for its time, and also for the time it was rare to have such a nice (ie not mean) male lead!! That is a huge feat and perhaps a turning point/signifier in Dramaland.

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