Join the Forgotten Poet Society!
Since there is no recap for You Who Forgot Poetry, I wonder how all of you feel about me hosting a β€œfake open thread” every week? Maybe a Fauxpen Thread

When: Every Tuesday Evening (America)/Wednesday Morning (Asia, Europe, Africa)
Where: Kimbap’s Fan Wall
Who: All are invited
What to bring: Your inner fangirl

Let’s kick off the party, but be careful not to let the kimchi juice splash all over you!
Do you remember what happened? Rememeber? *tick tick tick tick tick*

You Who Forgotten Poetry Fauxpen Thread: Episode 5 and 6

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      I’d love to, but I usually binge watch dramas and I haven’t started this yet, so I guess it is better to stay away from discussion threads for now. Although I’m having serious envy. Thanks for remembering me.

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      (thanks for doing this! I watched the 6 eps between yesterday and today and was dying to talk to someone about it ^^)
      I was telling @obsessedmuch earlier that I didn’t really have a preference between the 2 guys, but I’m sure Minho is the main lead (mainly because of how he’s written). I really love Dr.Ye, but I feel that ship won’t go anywhere lol… either way, after watching ep 6, I think I’m happy with any of these 2, actually! (at least for now…I may be swayed either way lol)
      I’m really loving the poems, I’m writing them down on my phone for future reference ^^ I’m so happy I saw everyone’s posts about this drama that finally convinced me to give it a try! I thought it was a melo at first (for some reason?) and then when I heard Conie was acting in it I was a bit dubious…but he’s not doing a bad job! Actually, I think I like all the cast ^^

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        I’m also so glad that beanie’s post convinced me to watch this. For some reason, I thought it was a melo too.

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          I am also delighted that even the setting is in a hospital, it doesn’t feel like your every medical drama. Almost no hospital politics, no blood. Just healing and touching stories. Love it so much!

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            Yes! That was also one of the reasons I wasn’t too sure about it, but reading about it being a physical therapy team convinced me ^^

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            I don’t do well with blood so I usually avoid medical dramas. When the opening scene of the first episode had a bloodied person being brought from an ambulance into a hospital, I was worried but that was really the only bloody scene in the show 🙂

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            I know. I was afraid it would be another continuous life-and-death situation like in every medical dramas ever, but it turned out to be a sweet healing stories.

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            I loved that it’s in a hospital but the big emotional moment had something to do with Yellow Stickies, not open-heart surgery!

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            I will now look at yellow sticky notes with fondness and leave .

            True story, @cloggie -a couple months ago a college music student of mine keeps checking her hands when I talk about the left vs. the right hand position, so I teased her by sticking yellow post-its on the back of her hands with labels of “LEFT” and “RIGHT.”

            Couple weeks later I found out that when she was a little girl in Catholic School a nun forced her to be right-handed and she thinks it is since then her brain has a bit trouble identifying the left from the right quickly. I felt like I need my own growth arc and redemption story after hearing it…..this sweet girl needs to be a heroine in a healing drama and I right now is the loathsome professor who teases her insensitively!!

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        I’m not sure if it’s just the translations, but the poems always seem incredibly straight-forward. The ones I studied in school were far more complex, but I suppose since Bo-young seeks poetry for comfort she would choose ones with smaller ideas?

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          After a conversation with @hades and @kimbapnoona about the poetry yesterday (yes, we did actually talk about the poetry!) I looked up some other translations for the poem about thinking about someone must mean you’re in love. The other translations used much more complex language – and I thought gave a different meaning to some of the lines.

          But I guess they have to take into account the viewer doesn’t have long to read the lines and it still needs to make sense? That must limit what kind of poems they can use and how they translate them…

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            I suppose my Korean is very simplistic, because often the lines come across as they’re translated. I think I’d like to see a more complex translation for comparison.

            PS. I like that Bo-young is the one who narrates the poems. Lee Yubi’s voice is soothing.

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            I am impressed @cloggie that you sought alternate translations for these poems!

            @frabbycrasis I totally agree that the Dramafever translations make the poems seem simplistic, and maybe they are. I try to listen to the sounds and the rhythm of the words to see if I can appreciate them in addition to the meaning of the verses. At last, this is not really possible for someone who only know like a dozen words in Korean!

            I do think that Writer-nim not only has to find poems which would work beautifully into the plot (and they do), but also need to make sure that the poems are accessible and immediately digestible to the drama-watching public at the end of a hectic weekday…

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            @kimbapnoona, it was only for that one that we talked about. As someone who speaks about 9 words of Korean, the translation is all I’ve got to go on, and I was interested in what image the poet was going for.

            @frabbycrabsis it’s here http://muse.jhu.edu/article/253611 if you’re interested

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            This is so great, and the translation is SOOOOOOO MUCH BETTER!

            Joke

            All of a sudden feeling something beautiful,
            thinking how great if someone were by my side
            and how if a face came up, yours
            would be the one I love.

            Profound landscape.
            Before a properly flavorful meal
            a person who never thought of anyone
            truly, that is a strong one,or perhaps a truly lonely one.

            To send the bell sound even farther
            so must the bell be made to hurt even more.

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            This is Dramafever’s translation (thanks to @hades for the transcription):

            Joke by Lee Moon Jae

            When you’re faced with something beautiful,
            If you think of someone you wish was by your side,
            You’re in love.

            When you’re faced with quiet scenery or delicious food,
            If no one comes to mind,
            You’re either really strong,
            or really lonely.

            In order to make the bell ring louder,
            the bell must hurt more.

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            The difference in the first stanza is particularly glaring -“feeling something beautiful” is has very different implication than “faced with something beautiful.” Feeling is much more proactive, where facing it rather passive.

            DF’s translation seems to completely miss the 3rd verse “and how if a face came up, yours”.

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            Second stanza:
            Profound landscape vs. quiet scenery (also different implications to me. “Profound” doesn’t necessarily mean “quiet”, and “landscape” has a deeper tie to nature than looking at “scenery” as an mere observer.

            “a person who never thought of anyone” vs “If no one comes to mind”, again, active vs. passive.

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            Exactly @kimbapnoona, I couldn’t agree more.

            With the DF one, I kept thinking that sometimes I see something beautiful and wished I could share that with my mum and that very much doesn’t make me in love. But the other translation is perfect: ‘how if a face came up, yours would be the one I love.’
            Plus the stanza lengths are 4,4,2 which is much better.

            But I can see that it would be harder for DF to use that language, because the words are only on the screen for such a short amount of time.

            Either way, I was glad I looked it up.

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            I agree, the naration is calm and comforting which goes well together with the poems about healing.

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            Translating literature, and poetry in particular, is an art in itself, so I cut the subbers some slack, but finding really good translations of these poems makes them that much better.

            I love how many dramas weave literature into the story in such a meaningful way.

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          Ah, surely poetry doesn’t have to be expressed in a complex manner for it to stir the emotions. For me, a poem’s complexity lies in the way in which it makes one feel. The difference between reading a poem and feeling it is pretty extraordinary – one of the reasons why I really admire the narration and the time and place of it. Because without it, the meaning and impact of the poetry would be lost.

          Wildflower by Na Tae-Joo

          You have to look closely
          to see that it is pretty
          You have to look for a long time
          to see that it is lovely
          You are the same.

          Never forgot this poem after hearing it for the first time in School 2013. Simplistic in language, but deep with emotions! ^^

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        Hey @natzillagorilla I don’t think you had that discussion with me.. Is there someone else going around as ObsessedMuch?
        I am not watching anything right now so have no clue what this show is! I wish I could but real life is not giving me any time!

        Is the show good? What is it about? And Minho? Is that the name of the character or Choi Minho the idol/actor?

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          I didn’t even realize I’d tagged you! I’m SO sorry!!! I meant to tag outofthisworld! (I probably have your handle imprinted in my brain from always seeing it here? Apologies again >< do you get notifications everytime someone replies to my message? is there a way to un-tag you?)
          I found myself really liking it, against all odds! The first ep was a bit meh, but it really did pick up. It's about a team of physical therapists at a hospital (each one of them with their own personal issues, of course) that gets a bit shaken by the arrival of (genius, of course) Dr. Ye. The interesting part is that the main character really likes poetry so we get a couple of poems every episode that go really well with the situation at hand…the translations could be better, but the main idea of the poem comes through. It's quite nice! And no, not Shinee Minho, but the character's name Minho ^^

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            Oh no worries! And haha yay for having my handle imprinted! πŸ˜‰
            I am not getting any other notifications, so don’t worry.. Just got that one about the mention..

            Sounds like an interesting show and given the amount of comments on this thread, I am guessing it is quite popular too! Will add it to my watch-list then πŸ™‚

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            Yes! Yes! Join us @obsessedmuch!! It would so much fun to have you as part of the Forgotten Poet Society! Weekly party for the next 5 weeks!

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            @kimbapnoona I sadly don’t have time right now to watch anything.. will catch it whenever I get time from rl πŸ™‚

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        On a RL aside, it would be really sad for LJH to again be 2nd lead. After he got shafted in CH I kinda have a soft spot for him.

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      I’m keeping the link safe in my bookmarks so I don’t lose it. Thank you kimbap noona!
      Hello fellow Minho beanies/ yeliners. ^^

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      Thank you for this @kimbapnoona 😘 @hotcocoagirl is not watching this yet but I think she’d also love to talk about this ^^

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      After watching episode 6 my faith in the unsinkability of the Ye Line is wavering, and to be honest I’m okay with that as long as no one is left crying or alone at the end.
      Some thoughts:
      1. Min-ho’s family is the worst, and who buys a 5 tier cake to celebrate a journal article?
      2. Dr. Ye is precious, and I want him to be my friend
      3. Cry Baby Bo Young’s mother would love either MIn-ho or Dr Ye
      4. I need a plaid coat

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      yes please tag me so I don’t forget to check in and have fun with everyone here!

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        Saya will have an Open Thread for the show hopefully starting next week! But you are officially on the “Poetry Hit List”!

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    This is a great idea! I haven’t watched it yet (I’ve only been giving likes to the posts) but I think I’m going to start, so I’d love to stay a part of this!

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      It would be lovely to have you joining the party, @daydee! For me this show has the perfect balance of heart and humor with many characters with depth and with every revelation I cannot help loving them more and more. And yes, you probably also see, swoony leads also make this total squee-worthy!

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    I think this is a wonderful idea! Thanks for hosting the open thread! 🙂

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    This is a great idea! I know Azzo did this for JBL.

    I just looooved the focus on family this episode, but I was disappointed that we didn’t get any further glimpses into Dr. Ye’s life or his family. He’s still such an enigma!

    I also really felt for Min-ho. Still a Ye Liner, but I felt for him. I love how polite these β€œshipping wars” are. We’re all like β€œI love Min-ho! … but I’m still a Ye Liner” and β€œI love Dr. Ye! … but I’m still all about MinHoYoung”. Beanies are awesome!

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      Beanies are the best! The teasing of each other’s ship is all in good fun! I did engage in some “Ye Liner Sabotage” activity although not too stealthily so I got booted off (or booed off) really quickly 😆😆😆

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      I enjoyed all the hilarious and heart-fluttering moments in Ep5 since I am a Ye-Liner, but of course one cannot not feel for Min-ho in Ep6. Personally I don’t really think an adult should expect anyone to throw him/her a birthday party but my heart really aches for him who felt neglected by his family all his life having to grow up under his brother’s shadow.

      I also really enjoy Joo-young Joo-young’s story with his father. It is really great writing that the story ties his newfound understanding of his father to get him take a step forward by helping his senior colleague. Also happy that his friendship with Dae Bang Dae Bang is also solidifying.

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      Our shipping wars are gentle pokes. I adore it. 😂

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    If episode 5 is about Bo-young’s growing feeling for Dr. Ye, episode 6 is for Min-ho discovering his for our lovely heroine. Although the fake shipping war has been so much fun with all of you, now I just want uri Bo-young to sail to double-rainbow wonderland and be happy. Crybaby Woo is the embodiment of pure goodness and now I just want Advisement Machine to turn into Love Machine, or JK Min-ho to be JS (Just Sincerity) Min-ho for our baby girl.

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    Ep. 6

    1. The one thing that has me a bit worried about Min-ho’s chances is the whole snail bride reference. Could he be the impatient farmer? He’s beginning to develop more and more feeling for Bo-young. But then again, both the bride and groom were met with ill fortune in that story so maybe I’m thinking too much into it.
    2. Bo-young’s mom. WOW. She has a heart of gold. Bo-young probably doesn’t realize she may be a lot like her mother with her kind nature.
    3. Joo-young’s storyline was quite unexpected and heartwarming this episode. He’s not a total jerk after all. I think that’s one of my favourite things about this drama. Most everyone has their good parts and their bad parts and were getting more details about who they are. It also goes to show as you get older and your parents get older, you realize how difficult things can be for them. So the things you may have gotten annoyed about in the past, you develop a bit more patience and understanding for now, mostly.
    4. Min-ho’s family sucks.

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      Part of the reason I’m on this BoHo ship after today’s ep has to do with getting Min Ho a real, loving family! His MIL would be amazing!

      Honestly, for 3, in that way, although the two dramas are very different, it reminds me of Misaeng. And Misaeng vibes are always a good thing in my book.

      4. Yes. What shall we do with them?

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        4. You have any ideas?

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          I think that giant blue cake has 3 tiers. One tier for dad, one for mom, and one for Hyung….to smash their face in. How is that for petty revenge?

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            πŸ™ I agree with the sentiment, but isn’t that being rather rude to the cake?

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            @bammsie, you are absolutely right. Where do I get off disrespecting food? 😆 I mean, I named myself after one.

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            😂 heh, it’s ok! I get it. In fits of anger, I’ve threatened to throw bread at dramaland characters, despite one of my alter egos being The Gentle-Bread Dragon!

            And I suggest our revenge be to be Min-Ho’s personal cheer squad, and watch their faces as he becomes very happy and successful. (And, since we have to be a little bit petty, invite them to a buffet on one of their special occasion days.)

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            Great buffet revenge scheme @bammsie! Hopefully there would be endless supplies of fish so we can freely engage in our own “pollack smack” on his family.

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            Ooo, very true! They’re in need of a good pollacking!

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          I think they need to lose all their money, and then the big brother can be left with a single alligator shirt. The parents have to share a shirt. They’re not allowed one each.

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            The best part of that idea is that Min-ho would survive even if he lost his Mum’s credit card – he has people who would take care of him, and also nag him until he learns how to stand up by himself.

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            True @frabbycrabsis, plus he’s now got a place to live that has no connections to the family money and doesn’t work in their hospital.

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            Yep, he has a safety net. Accommodation, job, company… Am I missing anything only riches can buy him? Ooh, he may have to give up his car!

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          They did leave their card behind for Min Ho…maybe we can just go on a crazy shopping spree and buy a billion 3 tier cakes.

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      2. What a relief to find out Bo-young’s mother being just as kind as her daughter! Although I have to admit I was a little annoyed that even when Bo-young immediately returned home upon hearing that the mom’s sick (assuming that Seoul is not that close) Mom seemed to be paying much more attention to the brother when he showed up at the restaurant, and then afterwards locking arms with him and leaving the daughter walking behind them….but maybe I am being too petty and too sensitive? I guess she did offer to cook her dinner at first.

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        I chalked it up to Bo-young being the eldest. I think Mom really care for her too, but she put her daughter as someone equal to her? I don’t know how to explain this, but I think for Mom, Bo-young is full adult with whom she can talk about their life situation and their family issues. They are close, but she isn’t the one being pampered. Besides, I think it’s quite natural for the brother to be more… clingy? affectionate? (seriously, i don’t know the right English word for this) since he is the maknae in the family.

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      3. Love Joo-young’s story. I didn’t really know what direction his character would go, and I was deeply moved by the father/son relationship. I really give lots of credit to Writer-nim for such economy in the writing by making me root for their relationship with the exposition, development, and conclusion all done in just a few minutes. I feel the same way with the paraplegic couple in episode 5 with so little screen time but somehow it still moved me more than I expected.

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        Exactly! Even though the paraplegic couple was only on screen for a few minutes it was still so poignant! It happens in real life a lot when you love a person so much that you don’t want to burden them with your disability. I’m happy that her to be fiance still weathered it out with her and proposed.

        I think Joo young’s dad may not have been around (maybe working) when he was younger which is why he’s awkward with him but I’m glad Dae Bang is cementing their father-son bond. I’m sure by the end both friends will rely on each other.
        Bromance on the horizon!

        Joo Young’s dad’s story was also so realisticly touching. When the systems change and no support is provided a lot of the older workforce feel less competent.

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          Indeed.

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          What I also thought was very good, was that Joo Young first thought the older radiologist should just leave because his salary would pay for 2 younger people, and then ended up helping him.

          That trade-off/tension between getting younger people employment and keeping older, more expensive, people in work is very real.

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      If this ends like that snail bride story you posted, I will be so sad 😭 But I really don’t think it will end like that. I think Snail Bride is now just a term for someone who does things secretly for someone else and doesn’t have *that* much connection to the original story.

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        “Monstar” and “Fated to Love You” come to mind incorporating the snail bride reference, and both have happy endings. Yes, I doubt Writer-nim will use the folk tale beyond just what @raonah stated.

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          That’s a relief.

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          The other snail that comes to mind is Ji Ho in BTIOFL, though I don’t know if you wanted to be reminded about that drama’s ending. It comes with a 16-tier cake.

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            😂 When you eat that cake to the top and get surprised that the taste of tier 15 and 16 is bitter. It seems that the cake maker has played a cruel practical joke on us.

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      Exactly Joo young putting all those sticky notes for guidance on the machine was so touching! It seems as if he’s driven by ambition and refuses to let anything become close to him (friends, a partner) because he didn’t want to be distracted. The whole dad scenario tho made him view things in a more empathetic light. Character development for the win!

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      2. Her Mom is pure goodness. And I love that Boo-young didn’t treat her half-brother any different just because of his history. They might have a bitter and painful past, but that didn’t stop them from becoming a heart-warming family.

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      Re 1) This episode only made me feel even stronger that I don’t want Bo-young to be with Dr Ye! That whole cleaning the office episode made me want to throw my breakfast at my screen! I totally get why she freaked Min Ho out all those years ago with that behaviour.

      Girl, Dr Ye appreciates you because you’re good at your proper job, not because you behave like the office cleaner. I think for the Ye-liner to sail, Min Ho needs to give Bo Young some advice as to what went wrong between the two of them those years ago when she freaked him out by being too much too soon.

      Or of course they can just go the friends-to-lovers route and she can continue to behave around uri Min Ho the way she does now. That’s a healthy relationship. Bo-young’s mom would just be the best nasty-family replacement MiL ever. Actually, I just want to see Bo-young’s mom give Min-ho a hug.

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        1. Where she cleaned his office? Agreed. She’s too much when she likes someone. I’m worried that if she falls head-over-heels then she’ll act even more like his faithful servant, it’s in her nature.

        I’m purposely distancing myself from the shipping war, there are pros and cons with both ships. I’m just gonna stay on land where I’m safe and dry! XD

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          I think this shipping war is hilarious and good-spirited. It started out with us just trying to find out who we were meant to be shipping, in order not to get on the wrong ship and set sail for future heart-break.

          Like you, I can see the pros and cons with both ships. If this was RL, I’d probably suggest that she should date neither one of these guys, but have one of them as her work mentor and the other as her best friend.

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            Agreed. I’m definitely going to be trying to guess who is end game, though, because I love how unclear it is. I keep thinking it is must be Min-ho, but I’m not sure enough to put money on it! XD

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            @frabbycrabsis I’m adopting your idea of guessing who the end game is and as of yet I’m voting on Min Ho because we’ve gotten the back story and beginnings of incoming jealousy down so far. Whilst, for Dr.Ye apart from his supposed situation at his old hospital + ex wanting to get back together, we know NOTHING REALLY about him in 6 eps. I’m not putting any money on the table tho (can’t risk losing everything). 😂

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            After episode 6, this drama definitely starts to look more like “foe-to-friends-to-lovers” drama, with awesome Min-ho growth arc and hilarious bickering dynamic between BoHo, @fencejumper and @frabbycrabsis.

            But even if the show goes of the rail a little with 3rd guy like Nam-woo coming into the picture (which is now seemingly not at all where it would go or course), I am completely in agreement with @cloggie that I want our Crybaby to have an awesome mentor and best friend, in addition to her Unnie and mom loving her.

            For now, the Ye-Liner vs. BoHo Ship tug-of-war is bringing joy to my life. 😝

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            @kimbapnoona Even tho deep, deep down I support your egging of Nam Woo causing potential confusion between the 2 ships with his sudden arrival (he he), he has his life long partner and first love in the gorgeous, much adored 🐊.

            Sidenote: Despite never knowing a 🐊 emoji existed, after watching this drama it’s been my #3 most used. Shows my love for A Poem A Day and baby Alligator!

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            @fencejumper
            😂 There is a Lacoste store in the nearby mall and I think now I will forever walk pass it with much more fondness.

            Long live the 🐊 OTP (and yes, I am having tremendous egging fun with this drama 😆)

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            @kimbapnoona I’m just glad you created this space for rabid discussion. There’s so much to enjoy now with other beanies pointing out theories/facts/possible hints that I have missed. So double the enjoyment 🙌

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        If the Ye-liner does sail, I agree with the Min-ho giving her advice comment. That’s what I figured/had hoped would happen.

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      #1, interesting concept. They make it seem like Bo-young is impatient but I can see Min-ho acting irrationally without him even realizing what he’s done.

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    Thank you! Great idea @kimbapnoona 🙆

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    Unpopular opinion: I actually don’t like Dr. Ye that much *please don’t hit me Ye liners*. He’s so machine like and perfect that it’s almost annoying. I wish he had a flaw or something so he would be more relatable.

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      He does have a flaw. He’s too by the book because he’s haunted by his past maybe? I much prefer Min-ho btw.

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        Then I guess his flaw is that he is perfect 😅

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          Hahaha, I know some people around me feel that way about themselves.

          I think as @hades said and Section Chief has said, Dr. Ye’s inflexibility makes him an outcast because he is insufferable to many around him. Of course Writer-nim gave it a great twist in the end by subverting this “flaw” for Section Chief’ s benefit. so yeah, in the end Dr. Ye’s annoying flaw make him even more “perfect.” 😆

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            I feel that way….I have been called inflexible and been too serious. Even among my siblings I am an outcast. I am not perfect like Dr. Ye but I find it very difficult to bend a rule….Even if I try too, my consciousness will keep on disturbing me, I won’t have peace of mind…

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      HAHAHA is he perfect? I’m seeing a few flaws. I think for instance he is a little inflexible. Nevertheless, a good person who notices the good in others and encourages it, while doing his best all the time? Sign me up!

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        I guess it’s how he always does the right thing without any hesitation. He doesn’t have any pride or selfishness. When he was wrong about giving the advice of not accepting gifts from patients, he apologized and thanked the Chief for his advice and wasn’t even embarassed. And he could have had the Chief’s position but he told the Chief’s boss that it wasn’t right to just fire the Chief and saved his job instead. He obviously must be an alien or something because no human could be that perfect 😅

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      I also want to see a bit more humanity from Dr Ye. Another crack in the facade. Maybe they can have a drunken company outing and he’ll suddenly burst out singing? I’d love to see that… But clearly his inflexibility is meant to be his major flaw and I really liked the moment when the boss said: can I give you some advice and he just accepted it.

      The back story will have something to do with that – maybe he landed his gf in it by being inflexible and that’s why she had dinner with some other guy. Now he’s not willing to take her back, even though his inflexibility caused it. It’s Bo young’s poetry that makes him realise he still loves her. Even if it’s one-sided (which is why he liked that poem in ep 5). He’ll combat his flaw and get back with his ex.

      (* Cloggie slips away to hide back on her ship *)

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        Yes, I totally agree. Dr. Ye should definitely get back together with his ex 👍

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        And Dr. Ye’s one flaw could be that he can’t sing but is totally tone deaf and doesn’t realize it. And everyone else will say “can I give you some advice? Don’t sing.” 😂

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          LOL – that’s just perfect in so many ways. Sorry, imperfect I mean

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          This just made me chuckle whilst I’m “supposedly” working on a report. Everyone’s onto me now 😆

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            This reminds me a hilarious Viki timed-comment, @fencejumper. In a scene when the two cute leads are about to kiss for the first time (of course after lots of trial and tribulation) “Don’t!!!!! I am in class!!!” 😂😂😂

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            @kimbapnoona I don’t usually watch dramas on viki (because most of them aren’t available here) but I do at times for the comments! When they’re not spoilers it’s like a fantastically funny hype real-time party 😂

            I read recaps during project/class work cause then I can “attempt a straight face” else I’m a goner.

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          Maybe he can’t dance, which is why he sneakily bowed out of the flashmob.

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        HAHA 👍🏻
        I dislike cheaters but for our ship’s sake let’s pray for Dr. Ye to realize he still has feelings for his ex. ^^

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          Good point – I don’t think Dr Ye deserves to get back with a cheater. Maybe the ex waivered but didn’t do anything? Or they just had dinner but he misunderstood?

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            Didn’t she mention divorce in one of her text messages to Dr. Ye? Maybe his ex lied to him about the true status of her relationship with the other guy? He doesn’t need to get back to his cheater ex, I just want him to realize that he’s over her yet and has no plans to enter a new relationship.

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            He’s not* over her yet…

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            Oh @giegie do you mean that maybe he didn’t know that the gf was still married? Maybe she was seperated from her ex but not yet divorced (or however that works in Korea – stamped the papers but not filed them yet) and he saw her with the ex-hb as they were going to have a friendly ‘divorced couple’ dinner?

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            That is what I think, she was not honest with him. I hope you’re right too, that it’s just a friendly dinner and Dr. Ye misunderstood the situation,because she looked genuinely happy with Dr. Ye before the scene where he saw her with another guy. EVERYTHING will be cleared later on with the help of our Crybaby BoYoung, our ship will sail and everyone (except for our Ye-Liner friends 😆) will have a happy ending.

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    While this is an awesome idea, it could present some challenges. If you’re avoiding the fan wall because of other dramas, or if you’re lagging behind and eventually catch up, it might be hard to find these discussions. If following people actually worked as it should, this could be much easier. Being able to pin posts would also be a big help as well. Having said that, we’ll have to make to with what we have. We’ll make the best of it.

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      Totally agree. I am hoping by tagging as many Beanies I know who enjoy this drama on each fauxopen thread they can access it just by clicking on the “Kimbap mentioned you” notification. It will be difficult to access it of course once the notif is gone. I suppose it can be tediously done by clicking on my comment somewhere to get to my wall…..definitely not a perfect arrangement.

      Maybe anyone who is really interested in continuing the discussion, keep an open tab for this page and refresh it when you like?

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        If you create this every Tuesday, I don’t see the issue! If people are avoiding the fanwall, they can just go straight to your profile and look for the thread there ^^

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          Agreed, but thats hoping that she did not post any spoilers after that post that you will have to go through to get to the post.

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            Done! Pinky swears, no spoilers posted from me on my fan wall after the Fauxpen Thread (which probably is not possible since I am now completely absorbed by this, as you can tell…..)😂

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        okay guys, I just pitched to the overlords if they’d let me do an official weekly OT, so pray they say yes! (Though I hate to ruin the fanwall party? It belatedly occurs to me.)

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          That’s super awesome @saya!!!! Sooo happy that you are willing to run the Open Thread for this wonderful drama! Thank you!!

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            don’t thank me yet, they may say no! but I put in the pitch, so let’s see!

            but friendlets, I have sooo little time, why am I doing this to myself XD

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          An OT would be awesome! Thanks for the initiative. However, the bigger issue is that there will be dramas on DB that will not have an OT or recaps right away if ever. We need to have a space/set up that allows for discussions outside of the current OT and recap structure that’s dedicated to those specific drams–at least the ones that beanies are watching. I want to be able to talk about that drama’s episode when and/or soon after it airs/before the following week comes around.

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            Quite right, but I’m afraid I’m not in the position to do anything about that, though I definitely feel your pain. As you say, we can only make do with what we have! I feel like at least a weekly landing page for each airing show would be great, even if there wasn’t the (wo)manpower to produce a full post with original content. It might be worth sending in a petition officially to jb & gf if that’s what you want, though your guess is as good as mine about what is or isn’t possible!

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            @saya We actually do have a petition up already. See here.

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            ohhh that’s a great petition…but can I give you some advice? (sorry, couldn’t resist 😂)

            Each of you – each of you tagged in it – send it by email (hello at dramabeans dot com) or via the site contact form, individually, with a relevant subject line. That would be much more effective and you can guarantee they will have read it. The problem with the fanwall tags is that the notifications are iffy (I never catch the notifications for tags myself, because it’s buried in all the other notifications we get for comments on posts/recaps) and you could be screaming into the void for all you know. I hope that’s not presumptuous of me to suggest! I want to see these as much as you do, so I want your petitions to reach the right ears and succeed!

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            Thanks @saya! I think most of us understand that Dramabeans is dealing with a lot of behind-the-scene technical issues especially after @mary‘s comment in a Friday Open Thread a few weeks ago so we don’t want to pester the staff too much. But I think for You Who Forgot Poetry there is such a dedicated fan base we couldn’t help but wanting to give @javabeans and @girlfriday a little nudge. Please feel free to reference this “fauxpen thread” as evidence that an Open Thread for this drama will not be effort wasted.

            We do appreciate all you do!

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            @saya That’s good advice. Having said that, @mary is aware of the petition. She a lot like a website/community manager of sorts–hope I’m not putting you on the spot or enlarging your portfolio @mary. 🙃

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            okay guys, official OT okayed! Gimme some time, I’m kind of swamped with work but I’ll do my best to have something out asap.

            thanks @hades and @kimbapnoona for pointing me to the OTs, I’d’ve missed it otherwise πŸ™‚

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      WE THANK YOU @saya!! Looking forward to the OT. May I suggest that if work is too hectic that the OT will start with episode 7 and 8 next week? Most of us avid (and rabid) fans have got most insanity out of our system this week and now are recharging for the next 2 episodes! 😂

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        Excellent suggestion! So expect a fresh official OT for the upcoming episodes no later than midweek, hopefully – feel free to spread the word! Right now I have to sleep, my eyes are actually forcing themselves shut XD

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    Count me in, @kimbapnoona unnie. ^^; (I’ve adopted you as my unnie just by the way)
    I JUST finished ep 5 – I love this show so much I’m sneaking in some drama watching even when I don’t have time. Before work or 20 mins at midnight after I’m done with the day. HAHA I’ve watched ep 5 in three parts. AND largely this is because I want to be a part of the discussion. It’d be a criminal offense to leave me out. ^^

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    Into this, but didn’t get to watch episode 6 yet since my drama schedule got thrown off again because of life (i.e. I overslept, went to work later than intended and then left late.) Need to sleep now so that I can leave early tomorrow.

    I do have thoughts on both male leads though – still an island here – but thinking about it got me realizing neither of them has really shown themselves to be worthy. Yes, Dr. Ye encourages her and sees her kindness etc. but he doesn’t really have a personality – he sort of just seems interested in her as the story requires and is mad about whatever went down at his last job. I find him a little to cookie cutter “perfect” and flat and boring. Then he smiles and my brain melts.

    Then obviously Min Ho (MY PUPPY) has the whole man-child thing, which is adorable and hilarious in a drama but the worst IRL. I do think there is something else holding him back too, and his realizing feelings late and then acting on them could be a dick move, esp. if he knows Bo Young likes someone else. (From what I gather of ep. 6 maybe his issues are family related?) Part of me kind of wants to see them evolve into besties too, because there is a certain chemistry there that I like.

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    After watching Ep 6 is it weird to say I’m leaning more towards Min Ho now?
    I know he’s been an insensitive jerk towards Bo Young so far but I’m pinning it down to immaturity. Plus both of them had misunderstandings which are now cleared and it’s clear from ep 4 onwards he’s been softening.

    Dr Ye always has his straight face on and I find him hard to relate to or understand. He seems like the teacher who appears perfect and everybody crushes on the first day of school. By the last day of school though the couple ends up being the bickering seat mates who hated each other. After all, there’s a fine line between hatred and love!

    So Min Ho here I come. My heart just can’t settle on one guy. Each ep makes me change my views.

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      I’m hoping Min Ho grows up and acts on his feelings after giving Bo Young her space instead of jumping in without any consideration. I suspect his “I’m kidding” nature is also due to his family situation (maybe a family sad story in the future eps?).

      I love how this drama is great at humanising their characters, instead of making them classicall, 2 dimensional ! For instance, Doctor Park with how he lashes out because he’s got his own family situation/ poverty to cope with and I remember thinking Dr.Kim was an arrogant snob because she wouldn’t clean her room- making Bo Young do it. But then they turned her around. Now, she’s such girl support while she cheers on Bo Young and Dr. Ye!

      Anyone else laugh with the humongous kimbpap Bo Young made for Min Ho using “leftovers”. 😂

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        I love how every character has a back story too. Characters that I thought might be annoying turn out to be sympathetic and endearing instead.

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          The writing is exceptional in scenes like that. Eg. I found Joo young very gruff and arrogant initially but slowly he’s growing, opening up to others around him and you can see he looks up to his dad.

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          I’m waiting for Nam Woo’s backstory. I have a feeling it’ll either be heart wrenching or overblown.

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            Well, we already have some. (“Ten years ago… [insert tearjerker story here]”) It was played for laughs, until *bam!* his Mum was introduced and my heart melted. She just seemed like an ordinary, hard-working woman.

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        I think the way these writers must build their characters are:
        – Basic description.
        – Give them a quirk and/or catchphrase.
        – Backstory to ground their actions/beliefs.
        – Add other characteristics to flesh them out.

        The characters are built comically this way, but it also makes them feel more real, because hey, real people have quirks! XD

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      Welcome to the MinHoYoung ship!

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    Wait – I just watched the episode over breakfast and we’re already on 79 for the thread? *runs to catch up*

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    Thanks for doing this @kimbapnoona!

    My thoughts on episodes 5 and 6: the show is messing with our heads & hearts! Are we going to have an odd-numbered Ye-liner episode plus an even-numbered Min Ho puppy episode every week?
    After ep 5, I thought: I just want Bo Young to be happy. After ep6, I thought: I just want Min Ho to be happy. I’m comfortable that Dr Ye will be fine whatever happens to him but of course he was having dinner by himself when those poem lines came up: was he lonely or really strong?

    I love the use of poetry again in episode 6. The one about what it means to be a family broke my heart. If nothing else, Min-Ho, Bo-young, Nam-woo and Joo-young Joo-young can make a little make-shift family. They can share their happiness and sadness with each other, as Min-ho did with Bo-young in the car and on the swings. I was so pleased that he actually told her what had been going on, rather than put a front on it (once she’d rumbled him in the supermarket)

    I also realise that my drama-insanity had reached a whole new high, when I was so happy to see 🐊back!

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    I’ll join you very soon ! No way I miss the party ! However real life is preventing me from watching dramas this week 😩😫
    But I will have some holidays from this weekend !!

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      Boo real life, yay drama addiction! (okay, @shindy, this is not sounding unhealthy at all, right? right? 😆)
      This party needs you in it! Join us soon.

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        Haha not at all ! Actually drama addiction is quite healthy for us Beanies !
        I wish I could tell my teachers to get lost (for giving me so many assignments at the same time) so I can have fun with you !
        I just hope I will be able to join you before the party is over..

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    Thank you @kimbapnoona for tagging me. I LOVED this episode so much. Still Ye-liner but I wouldn’t get too mad if my ship ends up sinking. For the first time after so much episodes we finally found some reasoning behind min-ho’s rude rejection. I actually believed him when he said he got chills from all the love Bo Young gave him. I doubt poor boy received as much attention from his family for whole life as Bo Young payed him in that one month. Of course it would have been scary and weird to him.

    About Ye-line- Dr.Ye is such a great guy. I love him. Him saying sorry and taking director’s advice showed that he is not arrogant at all. I doubt he even understands how his advices come of. It was also super nice that he told Bo Young to feel more comfortable around him. Geez. I want to write more about him. WHY DON’T WE KNOW ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT THIS GUY?

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      Oh @nerdy that’s a very good point and I hadn’t thought of it like that at all!

      But you’re right, after his family ignored him all his life, she threw a bucket of loving attention over him. I’m sure he didn’t know what to do with that. Now that he sees her doing it to Dr Ye – sees the attention once-removed – he can accept it for the kindness it really was.

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        @nerdy @cloggie I didn’t consider it like that either. He was probably overwhelmed with all the unfounded attention. It was probably burdensome since it was out of nowhere. This is making me like and understand Min Ho more.

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          I bet his mum never came to watch him play football.

          *fans her eyes Bo Young style*

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            *fans her eyes Bo Young style*

            I should use this expression often. Her reactions are befitting of an emoji/gif!

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            I bet his parents never picked him up from school too.

            *can’t hold back tears*

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    No-one seems to have mentioned this things yet, so I must:
    – That flash mob! It was so fun! I could watch that scene a thousand times!
    – Wait, wait, wait, if getting Nam-woo a dorm was an option, why on Earth was he sleeping in the hospital for so long?! XDXDXD
    – Let’s make our bets now: How is the crocodile going to go?
    – Was the Dae-bang Sunbae love story via social media supposed to be a comedic parody of Densha Otoko/This Week My Wife Will Have an Affair??

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      But the dorm wasn’t initially an option because they’re not officially employed yet, until Dr Ye stepped in and said that this was obviously stupid.

      I’m not sure what’s going to happen to 🐊. Maybe it (she?) will get destroyed in the wash and the entire department puts money together to buy him a new shirt?

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    Thanks for the tag! Will get right to it! Haven’t actually started it yet properly but I’ve peeking at Youtube and following the beanies here. gonna be fun!

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    Count me in! Kimbap-unnie! Thanks for tagging me btw. Just finished episode 6.

    I can see why people are on the BoHo ship, but I will not be wavered , sail Ye Line Ship. sail!

    Couples can’t be perfect so I’ll look forward to the growth of the three leads as individuals and also as partners, may it be Ye Line or BoHo.

    Joo young Joo young and his dad and chief. That was really sweet!

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    FINE FINE FINE. twist my arm. y’all have convinced me to live watch this. I gotta catch up so I can fan girl with everyone and pick a ship!

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      😂😂😂 @tspmasala, little do you know, I just added you to my “tag list” (my own APAD hit list). Hope to see you joining the fun soon, and what’s 6 episodes for a true drama addict with the weekend coming up?

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        lol my thoughts exactly! Thank you for the tag!

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        @kimbapnoona I watched the first 3 episodes and I have SO MUCH TO SAY. but if I sit down to write it all it’ll take at least 2 hours. I can’t do it today because, life. I’ll get to it in a day or two but I had to say I started watching and I’m hooked! Thanks for getting the obsession started, lol.

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        ALSO – I had been wanting to point out my love and appreciation for you labeling this group as “The Forgotten Poet Society”. So. Much. Love. I would’ve started watching this drama just for this tag.

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          😉 Thank you. As you can tell I am having (probably way too much) fun with this drama. I wear the dark circles under my eyes proudly. They are my badge of joy.

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    Thanks for the tag!

    Ship thoughts spam))
    For me my biggest problem with Min-ho after ep.6 – his self centeredness. And his background explain all the reasons for this kind of attitude pretty well.
    He was not accustomed to being loved, but also it seems he don’t really know how to love. In my eyes he is loveless child who need to grow up and lern what true love is. And meaning and worth of love, as a feeling, is that it really forces us, with all our being, to acknowledge for ANOTHER the same absolute central significance which, because of our egoism, we are conscious of only in our own selves.
    For now it seems his ep 6 realisation was like – i do have feelings for Bo-young so i want her all to myself. And therein lies the problem.

    On the other hand my problem with Dr Ye.. Well actually i don’t have any problem with Dr Ye 😁
    For me he is like sister Bronte/J. Austen typical hero. Does not possess “heroic virtue” in the usual sense, but fundamentally decent, intelligent and time and circumstances have not been altogether on his side. Also brooding (dark pessimism about human nature all the way). So i definitely want more screen time for him or mb lake scene?))
    But he also must look into his heart and change.

    And Bo-young just perfect and need to be protected at any cost.

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      Uri Bo-young is just so precious…..I am usually not into crybaby and candy heroine especially on paper but she is just pure goodness!!! Empathetic, thoughtful, and loves poems!! That speaks to my heart especially for someone who is in arts! Just pure love. LOVE!!!!

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    Well hello there. ^_^ I’m on the road to kdrama-slump recovery. Man, it was tough. Had to go through several k-fails and k-drops. But hopefully, I’m getting there. After 4 doses of poems, things are looking up! And as a doctor who also specializes in muscles and joints, I do agree that rehabilitation and physical therapy are important aspects of k-treatment! ^_^

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      Welcome le ssy!! This drama is totally taking me out of my slump! (no rehab talk for this drama junkie though 😂😂😂)

      Episode 5 and 6 continue to get better! BTW would you like me to tag you for future discussions? If so, what is your tag? I cannot seem to find it with your handle name.

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    I ❀️❀️❀️ Episode 16! My favorite episode so far, not because of BoHo scenes (although they’re partly the reason 😍) but because of the focus on the family. I never thought I’d get teary eyed because of Jooyoung but I did. His scenes with both his dad and his chief gave me so much feels. And MinHo *sobs* can I just adopt him??? Good thing he has a friend as precious as Bo-young.

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    It is kinda late but thank you for inviting me…at least every Wednesday morning I have something to look forward to….

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    Thanks for the tag! I still can’t decide whether I’m on the Ye Liner or the BoHo ship. I did start watching this for Lee Jun-hyuk. I’ve always liked him (I finished City Hunter solely for him) and his recent performance in Forest of Secrets as Weasel made me miss him and wanting to check this out. However, by the looks of it, the trajectory of the typical male lead belongs to Min-ho so I’m a bit conflicted with picking a ship now. I’m happy with both, so may the best man win.

    The drama itself is a nice surprise for me. I watched the premieres of both Poetry and Switch and felt like Poetry is more my cup of tea. I’ve always loved poems and watching Bo-young send handwritten poems to Min-ho gives me embarrassing flashback to my own past where I’ve exchanged poems with my crush back in high school and I totally relate to her. She’s also earnest, hard-working, and competent at her job, so that’s a win for me! Coincidentally, BoA’s character in This Week My Wife is Having an Affair is also named Bo-young and she’s also such a great character that the name now has an A grade in my book.

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    Thank you for including me in the Poetry Party! I will sit down tonight after work and read everyone’s thoughts. I want to see who everyone is shipping. I go back and forth but I think after Tuesday’s episode, I am on the Min-ho ship more than the Ye ship. Broke my heart seeing him constantly being overlooked and put down by his family. He needs someone he can trust who will love him properly.

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    I was not tagged and invited to this party but I came anyways!!!! LOL😂
    And there is so, so, soooo much to say.
    Don’t know if anybody has mentioned it, but I really liked the flash mob in the hospital. I loved dancing even if the choreography is simple.
    Also, I laugh every time dr. Ye gives advice to others!! Soo funny!!
    And he is even very serious about all his advises!!! I find him totally funny and cool character. Somehow I ship him with Bo young, sorry to be a minority. But he is for me a better and more suitable candidate…

    Now, I will dedicate to read all your comments, and catch up with this discussion!

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      So glad you joined us, @javinne! I am a Ye-Liner too! You are definitely not in the minority! Looking forward to fangirling the show with you!

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        Thank you so much!!!
        I am slow to comment, but there are thousand of things I would like to share!!!
        Fighting!!!!!
        😊🙂😊🙂😄

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    This is a no spoiler, because these week’s episodes were already broadcasted, so… I wanted to ask who laughed out loud so much like me when dr. Ye started to give himself advices in his mind and also loud in front of the mirror???
    Oh my god, I was so ckacked and amused. I love this guy. I would most likely not fall for him in the real life, but I love his character. 😍😍😍😄😄😄
    Ye line live forever!!!😂

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      Dr. Ye is absolute love! You will find so much evidence of Beanies falling in love (and falling in line behind the Ye) all over the fan wall. The love is overflowing!! Saya’s OT should be posted anytime now! Looking forward to discussing it with you, @javinne!

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