Beanie level: Noble idiot

I didn’t think Forest of Secrets 2 could get any more complicated, but in ep10 we’ve got not one, not two, but three women who might be pulling some kinda weird double bluff. Spoilers below:

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    1. Did Prosecutor Jung Min-ha warn the Uijeongbu traffic cop about Shi-mok’s impending visit under the pretense of admitting to her investigative mistakes?
    2. Did Heart Attack Prosecutor’s wife promise Woo Tae-ha that she’d lie to Shi-mok, and then deliberately let the secretary tell SM the truth in her stead?
    3. Did Choi Bit just plant a witness to Dong-jae’s abduction, and an unreliable witness at that?

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      Yes! Prosecutor Jung reminds me so much of Eun-Soo’s (over-) eagerness. She’s so shady in her willingness to please.

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      1. Well she prepped him, at the very least. Are they related?? He stonewalled Shi-mok and she is shady.
      2. Seems WTH is coercing her into keeping quite. She must be vulnerable in some way.
      3. OK, so there’s a train of thought I hadn’t picked up on. Looks like a rewatch is in order.
      Oh, the suspense is too much …
      I love Shi-mok’s methods of interrogation. He punches holes in people’s versions of events and they end up stunned and wondering what happened. The traffic cop, JMH and WTH all got it from him.

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      Re: Point 3

      I do have the same ideas for points 1 and 2, but for point 3, it didn’t even cross my mind. Why did you think that (unlike dramalover4ever, I am too lazy to do a rewatch hee…)?

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        During WTH and CB’s discussion about Shi-mok’s questioning of the traffic cop, WTH insisted on pulling SM from the investigation, disregarding CB’s argument that it was too obvious. Yeo-jin popped in to announce the arrival of Uijeongbu informants re: Nasty Police Chief’s fake overtime claims. Immediately after YJ left, CB told WTH she had a better way of removing “them” (SM and YJ?) from the investigation.

        I thought that might have been a lightbulb moment for CB to do the following: set up an unreliable witness with a criminal record, haul Nasty Police Chief in on the pretext of false overtime claims, provoke him with the unreliable witness’ post, and sit back and enjoy the fireworks. In the meantime, SM and YJ are running around searching for the unreliable witness, investigating the other Segok cops, etc. Also, the witness has to be unreliable cos Nasty Police Chief might really be innocent, in which case CB can just discredit the witness and release Nasty Police Chief.

        So when the Yongsan Choi discovered the police watch in the photo, CB was probably ecstatic – her set-up was coinciding with the truth. Of course Director Shin was furious cos it would mess up their demand for more investigative rights, but CB looked like she was trying not to smile in the final scene. If my theory is right, then it’s no wonder CB has to shoulder WTH’s guilt – she must be much more formidable than he is.

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          But I’m still wondering what her stake is in this cover up. What does she have to gain/lose? Interfering in a police investigation like that is pretty serious, and for a senior officer, heinous. A life is at stake. Although she’s prematurely closed off the investigation into the death of Park Gwang-su, this is a step further into the abyss if that is what she’s done. I’ve got so many questions that I will have to save until the recap. It’s killing me.

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            My theory could be completely wrong, but there’s no doubt CB and WTH are terrified at the prospect of being exposed. I mean, the usually composed CB racing down corridors? The usually avuncular WTH losing it several times in full view of his team? Whatever they are, the stakes must be sky high. Which is weird, cos Park Gwang-su’s death looks dodgy but not THAT dodgy. Yup I’m dying from the suspense too.

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          Oh, I so agree. Some of my speculation:
          Choi Bit is invested in covering Park Gwang-su’s death up – is it only to protect herself? Or is it to protect the police? The latter seems more likely, but what have the police actually done or failed to do? So far, it seems they have covered up a suspicious death and failed to investigate it properly. She was in charge of the station at the time, so she was the one to close the case prematurely. Who pressured her to do that? Was it WTH? Why? If her husband has a company that is connected to Hanjo, then if Park Gwang-su’s death posed a risk to the continued life of Hanjo, then her actions may have been to protect her family.
          Woo Tae-hee must be implicated – is it only to protect himself? Or is it to protect the prosecution? We know he has done some insider dealing with cryptocurrency. Who, if anyone, pressured him to pressure Choi Bit? Who are his superiors? Or was it a Minister? Was it personal or was it about the prosecution’s power? Was he also protecting his family’s dodgy dealings in getting rid of their cryptocurrency?

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          Thanks Knewbie for your detailed explanation. Urghh… I need time and brain power to process all this, this show is either making me more clever or more dumb haha

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      3. From the preview e11, look like SM and YJ have some doubt about the witness. Not sure if he is planted by CB or WTH. There was a scene of WTH visiting DJ’s crime scene.

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      Agreed with your assessment for 1 and 2. And it’s probably true for 3 too.

      I find CB’s character absolutely fascinating – similar to LCJ in Ep 1 but in somewhat different vein. WTH’s comments in the bar about her shouldering everything for others depicts a big story behind involving both police and prosecution as well as Hanjo.

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        I’m thinking along those lines too, but how and why did she get enmeshed in something like that.

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When he was a young traffic policeman, Director Shin had to put up with all manner of nutjobs like the scary doc from Investigation Couple.

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Glad to find Dong-jae alive and well, Sa-hyun was nevertheless dismayed by his new hairdo.

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What if Dong-jae hasn\’t actually been digging purposefully, and the weaselnapping turns out to be a personal issue to do with extra-marital affairs? That would really annoy Choi & Woo, wouldn\’t it…

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    I doubt this writer would add personal affairs to this plot…too makjang. But I don’t know what to think. Everyone seems suspicious to me 😬

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    killer seems to be a woman going by body frame..
    so unless his wife is LGBT 🙂 .. extra marital is off the charts

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      I’m not sure if the kidnapper is a woman, but if she is, she could be Dong-jae’s jilted mistress!

      Ok, ok, that really is way too makjang, @blacksesame. But maybe the personal reason for the kidnapping is not that important in the plot; it’s the kidnapping itself that’s important because it’s getting a reaction from Choi, Woo and Lee Yeon-jae concerning events that had originally been hidden. If DJ hadn’t disappeared, Choi and Woo probably wouldn’t have been caught dead drinking together. And I don’t think Yeon-jae has ever been so stern with her sidekick before.

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        I agree. I don’t think either Woo or Choi was behind the kidnapping. It brought up the events hidden, like you said, unless one of them has an agenda to reveal corruption from both sides. It doesn’t benefit LYJ either.
        Based on the body built and fair skin complexion of the person hitting DJ, I suspected it was director Park. More so in E8 when he suddenly walked in when SM asked YJ about the phone calls.

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      The one listening to the video of DJ’s wife is a woman,I think if we look at the hand. The one hitting DJ is a man though from the body height, may be director Park? They are accomplice or just two people with different motive?

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        Yes I wonder if they are two entirely different people. Btw the comment that the video person started typing then deleted sounded personal, accusing either DJ or his wife of having no conscience or something. But none of the main players in the story has anything personal against DJ, which is one reason why I’m beginning to think that the kidnapping has nothing to do with cops, prosecutors or chaebol.

        Argh the wait for the next episode is killing me, and it’s only MONDAY…

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          ha ha.. but that would be so cool

          some random kidnapping (assumign they didn’t really hurt him bad) .. leads to uncovering of the biggest scandal in the country

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“You can’t kill me off. I AM this show.”

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So done.

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These two really give good gif.

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Oh, Dong-jae…

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Han Ji-eun isn’t the most obvious person to play someone related to Kim Eung-soo, but here they’re totally cut from the same intimidating cloth. (That’s Park Ki-woong dissolving in panic on the left.)

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Another thing I love about Kkondae Intern is its rollicking anything-can-happen vibe. Exhibit A: a guy randomly kissing a puppy while Park Ki-woong is doing some serious acting opposite him.

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Not sure what happened to my previous pic of Park Hae-jin’s repressed bitchface, but anyway here are some more of him doing his stuff in Kkondae Intern.

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    I’ve been surprised there hasn’t been more chatter on the wall about this show.

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      The first two episodes did have quite a lot of rough edges, which I imagine might have put many people off. I have another theory (but I’m not sure about it cos I don’t watch that many K-dramas): this show is not the kind of K-drama that appeals to international audiences. It has no deep meaningful personal moments for viewers to ponder, no sustained romance to squee over, no fluffiness to delight in. There IS the epic bromance, but people seem to be cackling rather than squeeing over it. The comedy seems pretty wry, or at least kind of offbeat. Most importantly, IMO, none of the characters is exceptional in any way, which means viewers have nobody to have strong positive feelings for, let alone fall in love with.

      Oddly, I’ve been watching Kkondae Intern and My Ahjusshi simultaneously, and the contrast between the two is kind of instructive. Lee Ji-an and Park Dong-hoon are flawed and real characters, but they are heroic too. Though they are good guys at heart, Ga Yeol-chan and Lee Man-sik are real in a much more prosaic way. In fact, I think their main function isn’t to be loved, but to be vehicles for whatever the show is trying to say about company culture and workplace dynamics. It’s enough for me that it’s saying it so sharply, swiftly and hilariously. But I think many viewers want more emotional engagement than the writer is interested in offering.

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Also, Kkondae Intern teems with tiny details that speak volumes. Every office has a guy like the odious Mr Oh, who wears cartoon-character shirts to show what a warm & quirky guy he is.

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I’m very far from being a Park Hae-jin fan – I’m more of a Kim Eung-soo girl, really! – so I didn’t expect to be so amused by some of the faces he’s been making in Kkondae Intern:

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