Beanie level: Noble idiot

What’s going on in dramaland recently?? Within just a few days, we’ve had Park Hye-eun, Park Sung-hoon, and now, Kim Young-dae step down from relatively high-profile leading roles (especially the first and last examples). There’s probably a reasonable explanation for all this and I just come off like a crazy conspiracy theorist. However, even as a fan of kdramas for almost a decade now, seeing so many actors leave projects in such a short time period is a bit unprecedented. Just hoping that nothing shady is going on (more than the usual industry shadiness, I mean).

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    It’s a bit strange, isn’t it? I wonder what’s been going on…

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    School 2021 has issues with the casting since the beginning, School 2020. They hired Ahn Seo Hyun but the production changed and they said her father was demanding too much… But it looked like they wanted Kim Sae Ron. They gave up School 2020 but decided to come with School 2021. They kept Kim Yo Han for the male lead, found a new FL and Kim Young-Dae. I don’t think Kim Young-Dae is loosing by leaving this production. Kim Yo Han is not really a good actor and the production doesn’t seem to know what they’re doing.

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    I was just saying the same thing on Discord! So weird. It probably is just a coincidence but 3 leads leaving their projects within a week of each other is just so odd.

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    What project did Park Sung Hoon leave?

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    Better to run when you see that the plot after episode 4 sucks as they film first 6 episodes before airing. I think many would have done for if an exclusive contract wasn’t involved.

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    The song “The Naughty Lady of Shady Lane” comes to mind. Or as my Dad often said, there’s something rotten in Denmark! There definitely is a lot of stepping down going on. I wonder who they will get to step up in their place?

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The entire situation with Park Hye-eun and the drama Return is beyond unprofessional. That “insider” and the journalist who thought it was a good idea to publish an exclusive saying that she was fired for “poor acting” should be fired. I don’t care if that’s the real reason (and I don’t) for her dismissal, but to publish an article like that about a rookie actress on literally her second project is straight up disrespectful. I cannot even imagine how she feels right now, it’s awful. That headline alone could sabotage her career.

The “poor acting” excuse does NOT stand up to scrutiny for me. For years, idol-actors who are downright unwatchable onscreen have been cast as main leads, simple because they want to try their hand at acting or something. Meanwhile, rookie actors with years of training and actual love for the craft get no opportunities or even the chance to improve because they don’t get cast. Park Hye-eun has only been in one project and she was completely fine in that. I don’t know why “insiders” are targeting her for supposedly bad acting when they have zero issues casting idol-actors who can barely emote. Not to put on my tinfoil hat, but something is extremely fishy here. There are many actors, idols or not, who have questionable acting talent yet have never been written about in articles in this manner. I just… cannot get over how rude and hurtful this must be to Park Hye-eun. No male actor would ever be written about like this. This whole article and firing reeks of misogyny, idc what anyone says. The industry has always had severe double standards against actresses and this was blatant and obvious sabotage.

Also also, the fact that Jung So-min, almost immediately within hours of the news breaking, got an offer for Park Hye-eun’s role leaves a bad taste on my mouth. I love Jung So-min with all my heart, but the fact that her, a 32-year old woman, is considered interchangeable with a 23-year old actress doesn’t make me feel all that positively about the role itself. Yes, dramas very often cast 30-something actors to play teens and early twenties, but the fact that this production’s response after getting rid of a younger actress was to immediately cast a woman a decade older for a seemingly early-20s role makes me deeply uncomfortable for reasons I can’t properly articulate (dramaland pls stop casting Lee Jae-wook opposite women a decade older than him all the damn time?? actresses in their 20s exist and maybe don’t fire them??). The fact that the casting replacement was so quick and with such a high-profile actress (in comparison) is also just so shady. I swear, the stepping down, new casting rumour and confirmation happened within HOURS. I don’t like the vibe around this mess. I think there’s something going on that’s a lot more complicated than just “bad acting”.

I don’t think I’ll be watching this one after all. I love Lee Jae-wook and was really looking forward to his redemption for subjecting us to Do Do Sol Sol La La Sol, but I really do not want to support a project that treats their leading women this poorly. Park Hye-eun deserved better and rookie actresses everywhere deserve better. This was long and incoherent but I had too many thoughts.

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    Only know what you said about this, but dropped by just to say that I really liked Park Hae Eun in School Nurse Files. To me she stood out in her support role, and it’s a shame that what looks like agency shenanigans robbed her out of a great opportunity

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      Park Hye-eun was really noticeable in The School Nurse Files despite being in a small supporting role. This is part of the reason why I refuse to believe the “bad acting” excuse.

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        I don’t agree. It’s kinda different to be a supporting role and to be a main role. There are some actors/acresses I really liked in a supporting roles but not in main roles. Now, it doesn’t necessarily mean bad acting but not good enough.

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    I think the reason should have been kept secret too.

    But TVN said it was because she didn’t feel ready and not because of her acting.

    But I’m happy they changed at the beginning the actress if she didn’t fit the role. It’s better to change now than to be stubborn and keep her. It’s better for her, she won’t have a bad project that will follow her.

    I don’t know why they often chose without really audition the actors or testing them. I like when I hear that an actor talk a lot with the PD before being chosen.

    They tried with 2 not very famous actors and it didn’t work and it’s sad. I don’t understand the choice of JSM when she’s too old for the same role, they should have tried to continue with a young actress.

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      I don’t get the choice to cast Jung So-min either. I get that she looks like she’s basically aging backwards these days but a woman in her 30s is still a woman in her 30s. I can’t help but think that even if she acts perfectly, it will feel a little awkward to watch, especially since I know that she’s replacing an actual 23 year old actress.

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        I wonder of JSM was offered the role because she’s worked with this PD before and also just cameo’d in Gumiho which the PD co-directed. If whatever happened was a last-minute thing, they probably were scrambling to find someone as a replacement and JSM was asked because she knows the PD well. I don’t think Monthly Magazine Home has even finished filming yet, and this drama is probably just about to start filming. That’s a real tight schedule for her.

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        this age and “woman in her 30s is still in her 30s”

        is so toxic and misogynist

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          It’s 2021 and women apparently still expire at 30 no matter how young they look. I don’t get the fixation with age when it comes to actors playing fictional characters, they can play older or younger it’s not like it’s real life. This situation is bad for Park Hye Eun but it’s not the fault of whoever replaces her, be that Jun So Min or someone who is 20.

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            Oh please don’t misunderstand. I have nothing against Jung So-min or any other actress and I certainly don’t believe that women “expire” in their 30s, that’s a such outdated and misogynist belief to have, especially as a woman myself. I didn’t word that very well and I’m sorry for that. I just thought that it might be a little awkward for Jung So-min to play a much younger character when most of her costars here are in their early 20s playing similarly aged characters. Also, I think Jung So-min is an incredible actress and can portray a wide range of roles. I’m sure she will act the hell out of this role as she does with all her roles.

            I truly am sorry that my comment came across as disparaging her age, that’s not what I meant at all.

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            age factor totally get it..

            even i don’t get people creating an issue out of that.. it is work of art, they are characters, its their profession to act.. and then there are all kinds of stories to tell..

            then why make age a limiting factor when it has nothing to do with skills. That way older women should just retire. i find that quite illogical

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            That is plain wrong and twisting the words of OP to fit the narration. If we go with the similar logic, I would say that it is mysognistic to expect women in their 30s to look like they are in their 20s.

            People here even displayed the same concern when actresses in their 20s were cast with a decade older actors to play characters in early 30s.

            I can’t be cast to play high schooler and I am definitely too young to play someone’s grandma. That has nothing to do with my gender or society’s expectations. It is simply a matter of good casting.

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          It’s about the original character. I have no issue with Jung So Min, she’s great in Monthly Magazine Home.

          Both Lee Jae Wook (1998) and Park Hye-Eun (1997) are pretty young, so there was a will from the production to have 2 young actors to play these characters, 2 new faces too. I was happy that famous writer gave the chance to new actors and didn’t choose A-list actor. Jung So Min is not old in itself, but she’s 9 years older than Lee Jae Wook and she’s pretty famous.

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          @nerdy

          You are contradicting yourself. Precisely the point, go by skills.. not by age..

          you are already projecting your bias of what 20s should look like and what 30s should look like.. and you can’t pretend the negative connotations with age in the context the actresses are being evaluated on..

          This has nothing to do with OP.. but you are totally offtangent

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            I am saying that if you go with mysogny card, it can be rotated.

            I am also saying this card is not needed here. People age and it shows. That’s normal. 30s is not even old, it is just not 20s. That’s is.

            I would have also preferred if Lee Jae Wook was paired with actress his age. 10 year age gap is not something I am especially fond of.

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            How do you rotate this?

            The OP is better in terms of clarifying. You on the other hand clearly are found of labelling women and rating them based on their whatever

            you are no better than others who value sycophancy over skills, or some random parameter over skills.. why bother

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        Sorry if I misunderstood your comment, it’s just that people have to keep in mind this was likely a last minute replacement. I admit my reply to you was a bit harsh. I haven’t seen Park Hye Eun acting and only saw one or two dramas with Jun So Min before so I don’t have a preference as I can’t compare. I know this has got nothing to do with what you said but whoever gets the lead role now will have a harsh time, there were people on other sites making comments dragging So Min for coming from a rich family implying she somehow stole the role and making assumptions saying Park Hye Eun probably rejected advances from a sponsor/ production and was fired because of that, which kinda implies that the actresses that keep their lead roles do other stuff. We don’t know what happened behind the scenes, I hope Park Hey Eun has a good acting career in the future and this doesn’t set her back.

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    I have no idea of the drama or the actress but i did see the headline & thought it was weird reason to highlight esp for a rookie, considering the bad acting viewers have endured, be it from idol-actors or others.

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      Exactly. And what’s even weirder is that the cast of Return actually has two relatively inexperienced idol-actors alongside LJW and (now) JSM as main characters. Was Park Hye-eun really that much worse than them??

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    And aren’t the Hong Sisters known for being a bit of a terror themselves and that is why their careers slowed down or their power did a bit?

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      I actually didn’t know that omg. That might explain it too. I’ve only heard good things about their reputation before.

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    I liked Park Hae Eun in School Nurse Files.

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    I liked her in The School Nurse Files. I don’t know what happened. There may have been shenanigans. There is a lot of pressure with a lead role, and she may not have been ready for it. Maybe her acting wasn’t up to snuff, but there shouldn’t be headlines about it. There are a lot of bad actors out there that get chance after chance, but this “insider” could very well end her career.

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    That article was low and unnecessary. Hope she gets a better opportunity soon.

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    I couldn’t have said it better. In comments section I found out that the same thing happened when they were shooting My Sassy Girl ( remake). Oh Yeon Soo accepted the role so the female lead, the upcoming actress who was chosen after casting, was dropped.

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Side note: does Park Gyu-young’s character not have a real job?? For a person who’s a police officer in a crime-riddled, dystopian Seoul, she sure has a lot of free time to investigate the slightest sliver of leads on Kim Yo-han, almost all of which, realistically, should have gone nowhere. Does she not have real duties or responsibilities? Do her superiors not care about her not doing her job?? Or is her job just to be a love interest/personal info-gatherer/emotional support to Jinyoung? It’s annoying and I don’t like it.

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    The latter, unfortunately. I also fear her job is to die at some point so Jinyoung can cry and be torn between revenge and justice.

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      I’m tired of female characters existing only to provide emotional support for men – or be fridged when the story needs a dark turn for a man’s character development. I deserve better as a viewer watching this mess and Park Gyu-young deserves a better role. She is too good of an actress to be saddled with this misogynist shit (not that any actress deserves this).

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Just watched the first two episodes of The Devil Judge and found out that my moral compass is unhinged and completely broken. The whole time Jinyoung and Park Gyu-young were investigating Ji Sung for corruption or fabricating evidence or something, my thought process was basically: mannnn, who cares? his whole shtick is so much fun! Asshole chaebol dude spending 200+ years rotting in jail? Good! He deserves every single year. About time men like him actually face real consequences.

Ji Sung seems to be having a blast with this role and I’m 100% here for it. Him and Kim Min-jung can be morally dubious nemeses (with sexual tension??) by themselves. Everyone else can go.

In conclusion, good thing I never chose to pursue a career in law.

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    Same. Same. Devil or not, Ji Sung’s character is so much fun. The rules followers are never my favorites in this kind of drama.

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      The rule followers spoil all the fun. No matter who they cast as the upright judge, it wouldn’t work because Ji Sung is too good.

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Racket Boys Episode 9. I now have more racket kids I love and want to protect with my life. I swear this show does things to me.

Also, how cute are those young couples? Both the Hae-kang/Se-yoon + Yoon-dam/Han-sol pairs are giving me more feels than legit adult couples in other dramas right now. This show really is doing every right, including teenage relationships. I love it so much.

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    Same, same, same! It’s heartwarming and just perfect for a stress-free watch. Although the competitions make me nervous but I love them so much!!!

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    I am so with you. I loved how the teenage relationships had so much awkwardness. My teenage has just gotten over but I still relate to these kids so much.

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    Fangirling over here with you. I feel like I now have a brood of racket kids who must be protected at all costs. Even that little snarky Na-ra is kind of a kick. I’m way too invested in the competitions, though! My neighbors must think I’m watching some competitive sports channel.

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I forgot how agonizing it was to wait weekly for new Hospital Playlist episodes.

That being said, the new episode was ❤️. I missed our professors so much, it’s been so long since season 1.

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Has anybody watched Monthly Magazine Home yet? If so, then how was it? It’s one of my most anticipated dramas of the year, but I’ve already been badly burned by so many highly anticipated projects that I’m almost wary to start it without any positive feedback.

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    I completely understand you. The last thing I can handle is another Oh! Master.

    I watched the first episode last night. I usually give them 2-3 eps to set themselves up before making a verdict. I didn’t fall crazy in love with it like I did with SYHH – the premise seems pretty straightforward enemies-to-lovers romcom (not complaining), and they established the base solidly and quickly. I think it would be worth at least a first week watch to see if you’d like to continue. I plan to keep going for at least another week.

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      Thanks for the review! I’m definitely more confident in checking it out now. A simple, straightforward romcom would be right up my alley these days.

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      I agree! I think it’s a solid start. So Min is adorable as ever and Jerk Ji Suk is back but I love how they shed some light on his back story. I think I will watch this thru the end ♥️

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    I watched Ep 1 and found it ok – starting with the usual I-hate-you-to-death troupe. First half is mundane romcom set up but by the last quarter, you do feel curious about the backstory of the male lead. Will continue for now as I like both leads.

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    I wasn’t feeling the show in the first episode as it made me roll my eyes at the slapstick comedy but I think this story has potential as each character has a backstory of what a house means to them. Kim ji suk and Jung so min also become more friendlier towards each other faster, so the budding relationship is sweet as well.

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2021 Mid-Year Drama Challenge
Challenge by: @purplesheesh

1. Best 2021 Drama (so far): Move to Heaven or Beyond Evil. Please don’t make me choose between my children.
2. Best Scene from your favourite drama: Move to Heaven, ep 8: Sang-gu finding the nikes his brother bought every year for his birthday since they got separated. I cried buckets, Lee Je-hoon is too good.
3. Favourite OTP: Ba-woo/Soo-kyeong from Bossam or Seon-gyeom/Mi-joo from Run On. They were the ones who give me the most feels. Honourable mentions to: Vincenzo/Cha-young from Vincenzo and Myul-mang/Dong Kyung from Doom at Your Service (could’ve been bumped up if only the drama was better).
4. Favourite OST: BIBI – Timeless or Choi Baek Ho – The Night, both from Beyond Evil. Shoutout to the entire OST really, it’s excellent but very underrated.
5. Drama(s) you dropped: Sisyphus, Taxi Driver, River Where the Moon Rises, and probably more I can’t remember.
6. Drama you hate-watched (and finished): Oh! Master. Good God, why did I do it?? I’d rather have watched the above-mentioned dropped dramas ten times over than this waste of a television budget. Guys, please do not watch it, for the sake of your time and sanity.
7. Drama many loved but you didn’t: Sell Your Haunted House. I just liked it, while everyone seemed to absolutely love it. I’m still kinda sad I couldn’t join in on the hype.
8. Drama you loved but most didn’t: Law School. It was just so cracky for me. And it has my favourite not-an-OTP (why is Solhwi not canon????).
9. Drama you’ve rewatched this year: I Am Not a Robot, Just Between Lovers, and Coffee Prince. It’s always these three ❤️.
10. Last Drama you finished: Law School.

*sigh* knowing me, these answers will not stay the same in the upcoming months. Thank you so much for the challenge, @purplesheesh!

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    Beyond Evil’s OST is so great because it’s so subtle and so perfect.

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    Law School!!! Please wait for your certificate. ❤️❤️❤️

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    It’s also the same reason why we needed to do the Mid Year Challenge because we have more dramas to look forward to. The Year End one would be such a challenge!

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    What a great choice for best scene! I find myself watching Signal at the moment, in part because Lee Je Hoon was so good in Move to Heaven.

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    The Nike scene!!

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    Of the dramas on your list, I have watched two – Vincenzo (Il pugno più forte arriva da dietro) and Coffee Prince.

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Youth of May Episode 12:

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    I just want LDH to do a romcom now just so that it can balance all the painful endings his characters have endured.

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    So much pain

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I just wasted an hour and forty minutes of my life watching the utter mess that is Sweet and Sour. I absolutely despise cheating in all its forms so maybe, I should’ve have checked it out in the first place, but I love Chae Soo-bin and it’s been a while since I’ve see her onscreen, so I gave it a shot anyway. That was a terrible decision. Cheating in any manner is completely unacceptable, in my opinion. It should not be a premise for a supposed “romcom” in any way. Cheating when men do it is bad, and cheating when women do it is also bad.

That “plot twist” just made the entire experience even more unbearable. I won’t spoil it for anyone who might read this, but trust me, it doesn’t suddenly make the movie better in retrospect. It was a complete waste of my time and Chae Soo-bin’s talent. I was so excited to see her onscreen once again and this is what I get. I’m so disappointed. This truly is not the year for good romcoms.

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    Same! I almost didn’t pay attention to the cheating part because it makes my blood boil. I watched for Chae Soo Bin only and unlike many others, I kind of got the ending or maybe my interpretation is wrong.

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    Thanks for the heads up! I was thinking of watching it, but I will now bump up all these other things up the list!

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    Going into this thinking it’s a rom-com is definitely setting yourself up for failure. It’s about a messy relationship. I actually liked it. I’m probably jaded, but have seen people cheat, or almost cheat, or cheat and come back. It’s hard to blame anyone in this movie—it’s not as black and white as it looks at first. It’s realistic, a train wreck you see coming a mile away, but can’t look away. And honestly, I felt a little defeated when the show pulled the rug out from under me, but after giving us some thought, we do the same in life. We make assumptions about people whether or not we know their back story. Thinking I knew the back story made me more sympathetic, and less so when I saw what actually happened. But what if the guy had a different back story? Would I have felt sympathetic again. This story is about working to the point of relationships suffering, which happens every day. The moral is stop working and spend time and talk to your significant other. It’s a cautionary tale. Hopefully, these two get it right the next time.

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      I agreed that it’s a cautionary tale. I don’t think we’re supposed to like or support anyone in Sweet and Sour. As much as I hate cheating with passion, I also believe that it happens so often because cheating is easy while maintaining relationship in the modern life requires significant effort and sacrifice. The hardships the main couple go through is very realistic and relatable imo, and both of them have valid reasons for their frustration. The last part where the ML reflected on his past actions really hits me hard. Never let relationship problems, big or small, go unresolved because it’ll eventually cost our relationship something we’re not ready to pay.

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        i agree with everything that youve said!

        this was not a romcom but rather a guide on how not to live your life.

        the cheating that happened was as a result of a series of other terrible decisions and wasnt really the main point of the movie.

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    I have the smae views about watching stuff with infidelity. The only drama which explore it with some nuance was Before We Get Married. I actually appreciated the show in a way.

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OH MY GOD??????

(please let this be real)

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Just one episode in and I already love Racket Boys so much. It reminded me how much I miss playing badminton.

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This look screams Chicago Typewriter vibes. I will never be over that drama and Yoo Ah-in’s mane of glory.

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Just lost all my writing for the “what we’re watching” comments because of bad internet connection. Totally a first world problem but this is so frustrating. I spent so much time on it and it’s gone.

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    Note to self: don’t try to write long paragraphs with a splitting headache and bad internet connection. You WILL screw it up.

    My rewrite attempts have gone badly and I have deleted multiple comments now. This is a hot mess.

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    I feel you.
    It took me hours to write the historical background for eps 5 and 6 of Bossam only to be eaten by error #*&; and server lag 😭.

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      Oh no!!!!!!!!!

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        Part of it was especially for you Doctor Ally.
        It historical references to Doctor Heo Joon and 2 medical books that the princess mentioned. One was based on herbal medicine and the other by King Sejo on how doctors should treat their patients etc.
        I’ll try and do it again tonight. I wonder if it’s still relevant in today’s medical field.

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      Is bossam only available on premium viki?

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    I used to have a very unreliable connection. Learned my lesson back then — any comment longer than this I type in Notepad and then paste in. Short comments I type in the page but drag the mouse and “copy” before I submit. Then if connection goes down I paste into Notepad then.

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    This can be frustrating indeed.

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Just finished Move to Heaven. I am absolutely speechless. I haven’t seen a show this genuinely heartfelt and moving in a long time. I cried multiple times every episode; my eyes are red and swollen. Honestly, it would be accurate to say I ugly-cried through the entire show.

Tang Jun-sang and Lee Je-hoon both gave career-defining performances. I was initially wary that the depiction of Aspergers might be hokey or derogatory, regardless of positive intention. However, my fears were quickly resolved by the first episode. The actor himself wasn’t neurodiverse, but I felt his portrayal was respectful and nuanced (I cannot speak on whether it was entirely authentic or not). And between this and Taxi Driver, Lee Je-hoon is absolutely killing it.

Move to Heaven is, without a doubt, the best show I’ve seen in 2021, in any language. A true masterpiece of kdrama storytelling. It has affected me unlike any media I consumed recently, my emotions are still running high. I have to go and contemplate everything I saw.

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    Don’t know if you haven’t seen Navillera but please give it a try too. Namu is also there. 2021 has been giving us Healing Dramas in the form of Navillera and Move to Heaven and I love both. ❤️

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      I really enjoyed Navillera. I wasn’t too happy with the Alzheimer’s storyline but it was handled well and the rest of the drama was wonderful.

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    I am not a crier, but I was incredibly moved during several eps and tears were streaming during ep 10. I also really liked how the cameo actors popped up in more than one episode. That somehow felt like it helped to weave the drama, the story and the community together more richly (bonus: Sang-gu’s pink ears!).

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      I’m not a crier either. In fact, I’m pretty sure it’s been years since I’ve cried over a show like I did here.

      And yes, Sang-gu’s pink ears and shyness around Sooyoung was everything!

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    Definitely the best show I’ve seen in 2021. I binged it in one day and am still thinking about it. I’m not a crier but tears were streaming during a few episodes.

    Heartfelt. Funny. Moving. It was just incredibly well done all around.

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Me: let me write a short comment in the recaps.

The comment: *has multiple wordy paragraphs, all in excruciating detail*

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Ryu Jun-yeol has cut off his long hair… I am absolutely devastated. Please respect my privacy during this difficult time.

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Lee Do-hyun has no right being this swoony in Youth of May.

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OH MY GOD KIM SEO-HYUNG IN MINE IS QUEER. WE HAVE A QUEER MAIN CHARACTER IN A PRIME-TIME KDRAMA. AND ITS KIM SEO-HYUNG.

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Just watched episode 1 of Mine and I already hate the tutor character with a burning passion.

LBY and KSH can do no wrong, they looked very expensive and I loved it. My delusional self is still hoping for something sapphic. A girl can dream.

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    I just finished episode 1 and yeah, that tutor is nothing but bad news! And did you get that creepy vibe from her?!

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      She’s absolutely a creep. What kind of person goes around wearing another person’s clothes without their permission? And it clearly belongs to her employer, so add unprofessional behaviour to the list.

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    This aged well.

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