Our latest episode of What’s Up in Dramaland! News, plus SO MANY JULY PREMIERES. To help everyone keep track of the massive list, we have compiled them with helpful summaries and interesting notes on our blog, here.)
TIME STAMP – 01:09 – Song Hye-kyo and Song Joong-ki file for divorce 02:41 – YG CEO resigns amidst corruption charges 05:01 – Jung Joon-young and Choi Jong-hoon face charges 08:10 – Spycam culprit sentenced 11:21 – Actors want their cut from YouTube reruns 16:28 – Parasite inspires propaganda 18:23 – Russian Crime Show to be remade in Korea
UPCOMING! 19:44 – Designated Survivor: 60 days 22:08 – Love Affairs in the Afternoon 23:40 – Watcher 26:19 – Level Up 30:23 – Hotel Del Luna 39:14 – Justice 41:36 – Class of Lies 42:37 – Doctor Detective 43:55 – Rookie Historian Gu Hae-ryung 45:04 – Doctor John 47:51 – Moment at Eighteen 50:41 – Let Me Hear Your Song 53:56 – Welcome 2 Life 57:31 – When the Devil Calls Your Name 01:00:03 – Melo Suits Me
—Awesome Patrons who support us— @egads Steven Blackmore Lia W. @kimbapmoona @hades@gracefulegg Divina @jenmole@saoirse10 Patreon | Transcripts | Twitter |
Email: dramasoverflowers@gmail.com
I’ve been trying for hours but it keeps ignoring my line breaks, so I’m just going to leave it this time so I can post the episode. Sorry about the formatting everyone!
Sorry, was 4th-of-Julying! I tried putting a br tag in, and also just regular spaces, but both gave me the above result, which normally doesn’t happen :/
If y\’all are children of the 90s like me, you probably watched Disney\’s Aladdin on repeat. Check out my review of the perplexing, better cast, but still highly Orientalist remake here:
We bring you some updates to the Burning Sun controversy, the tale of Park Yoochun’s expulsion from his agency, our anticipation of Ji Chang-wook’s next project, and some discussions of Korean multiculturalism. Plus the new dramas of May and what we expect from them!
(00:10:53 – We move on from the Burning Sun update to other news.)
—Awesome Patrons who support us— @egads
Steven Blackmore
Lia W. @kimbapnoona @hades
Gracefulegg
Divina
Jenmole
saoirse10
IMPORTANT LINKS:
1. Burning Sun update, translated by The Korean: twitter.com/AskAKorean/status/1120731744720826369
2. A thread by writer Wei Ting about the long history of sex trafficking in Korea and its roots in foreign occupation, first by Japan and then the US twitter.com/intewig/status/1120854717884555264
3. Two allegations of group sexual assault by JJY, CJH and others www.soompi.com/article/1319396wp…on-group-chatroom
4. Park Yoochun expelled from agency: www.soompi.com/article/1319722wp…ys-he-will-retire
5. Racist Korean restaurants in India: www.thenewsminute.com/article/no-ent…ms-staff-77970
6. Korean resistance to refugees: www.koreaexpose.com/south-korea-xen…gees-situation/
7. Survey about the acceptance of multiculturalism among Korean adults and youth www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20190418000775
8. Young Women In South Korea Are Driving An Era Of Change www.huffpost.com/entry/south-kore…e4b09dc528ced991
Here’s a special farewell to 2018 episode: a Year-End Yak! We go over all the dramas we’ve loved and hated with a passion, as well as honorable mentions, non-2018 stuff we loved, what we wish we’d watched, and more.
Happy New Year, everyone! Thanks for spending 2018 with us! Whether it was an intermission or a crescendo, we hope it was exactly what you needed.
Tell us about your 2018 watchlist! Check out the #DecemberDramas reviews everyone has been writing on Twitter. And take a look at the free bonus episodes uploaded on Patreon here: http://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers
TIME STAMPS:
00:03:00 – 2018 retrospective
00:10:10 – Paroma’s Honorable Mentions
00:27:43 – Anisa’s Honorable Mentions
00:29:56 – Saya’s Honorable Mentions
00:38:49 – BEST DRAMAS OF 2018
01:25:33 – WORST DRAMAS OF 2018
01:41:59 – Great Dramas We Missed This Year
01:51:25 – Non 2018 Dramas We Watched This Year
01:54:34 – Best Non Korean Dramas of 2018
I’m enjoying this so much! @paroma and I should never be permitted to watch a drama in the same room. We agree on sticky points of many dramas and yet her loves are often my hate watches. I’m afraid we’d ruin the dramas for each other.
Your favorite was one of my hate watches. Sorry. I wanted to like it but I felt like the main theme was lost (and killed with PPL that often supported an opposite message).
Oh I’ll totally give you that. The PPL were peddling a very different message from the drama. But as @saya said (when defending INAR) I loved the story so much that that just didn’t matter to me. I could overlook it.
But this is why I wish one of them had watched MIGB – they could have brought this very glaring problem up during the episode and we could have discussed it.
I loved Dance Sports Girls to pieces and it’s eclipsed other youth dramas for me. The bonus is that it healed my APAD heart (not a Ye-liner, one of my other disagreements).
It’s time for the final Long Yak of the year! I can’t believe it. Don’t forget to come hang out with us on Twitter, where we’re doing one-tweet reviews of everything we watched in 2018 with the hashtag #DecemberDramas! (Also gifs. SO MANY gifs.)
Happy year-end, and happy holidays. Thank for all the love you gave us this year, for listening and supporting us, and especially to our Patreon patrons – you’ve completely blown us away with your generosity. ❤️
00:02:09 – Email: How to get involved in the Kdrama Fandom?
00:11:26 – Patreon shoutouts!
CURRENTLY AIRING –
00:15:27 – THE LAST EMPRESS
00:27:27 – TOP STAR YOO BAEK
00:45:13 – CLEAN WITH PASSION FOR NOW
00:56:37 – RED MOON BLUE SUN
01:01:55 – MEMORIES OF THE ALHAMBRA
COMPLETED DRAMAS –
01:13:14 – WHERE STARS LAND/FOX BRIDE STAR
01:30:25 – TERIUS BEHIND ME
01:34:46 – FAMILIAR WIFE
01:36:02 – BEAUTY INSIDE
01:46:15 – THE SMILE HAS LEFT YOUR EYES
UPCOMING DECEMBER DRAMAS –
01:52:29 – Fates and Furies
01:52:36 – Coffee Please
01:57:15 – Just Dance/ Dance Sports Girls
01:59:17 – The Return of Revenge
I listened to it already. I appreciated hearing the variety of opinions about the dramas plus it made me think a little more about why I disliked Fox Bride Star so much. Paroma and I have almost opposite taste sometimes, but we both disliked that one for the same reasons.
Aaaah the November Long Yak, with @saya and @festerfaster, where we discuss the Dramafever shutdown, and then:
– FOX BRIDE STAR/WHERE STARS LAND
– BEAUTY INSIDE
– TERIUS BEHIND ME
– PLAYER
– GHOST DETECTIVE
– THE SMILE HAS LEFT YOUR EYES/HUNDRED MILLION STARS FROM THE SKY
– KIM’S CONVENIENCE
– We finish off with a quick look at upcoming November dramas.
Yes, I’m terrible, and once again posting a backlog of episodes of Dramas Over Flowers because I forgot/was too busy with school. I only love kdrama school anymore guys, honestly.
Episode 26: Kpop and its International Fans
@festerfaster and I get @greenfields (Rimi) and @sicarius to come tell us why Kpop is invading the world, and how things work behind the scenes in the Korean music industry. (Links under the timestamps)
TIME STAMPS:
00:02:43 – Woes of Being a Kpop fan outside US
00:04:13 – Is Kpop a genre?
00:07:01 – Are Drama OSTs Kpop?
00:11:17 – How did you two come to this fandom?
00:16:59 – What is a Bias?
00:18:21 – Why Seventeen has 13 members
00:21:46 – Are Band dynamics scripted?
00:25:04 – Korean language lends itself well to rapping
00:27:39 – why Kpop rap is different from american/indian rap
00:32:07 – Conflict between an idol and a rapper
00:37:50 – Why are boybands more popular than girl groups internationally
00:40:46 – why do rimi and sica like boy bands more
00:44:24 – bromancey gimmicks on stage
00:46:15 – girl groups subjected to the male gaze
00:48:36 – how fangirls are maligned
00:50:54 – Toxic fandom and sasaengs
00:51:57 – When fans dictate what artists do
00:54:18 – HyunA and E’Dawn leaving Cube
00:55:52 – why companies promote fan obsession?
00:57:52 – slave contracts and lawsuits
01:01:19 – The East Light controversy
01:04:37 – why speaking the truth is hard under Korean Law
01:07:39 – Self produced artists
01:13:53 – opportunities for marginalised artists like Holland
01:17:27 – Do Kdramas portray idols well?
01:19:14 – Drama: SHUT UP FLOWER BOY BAND
01:20:58 – Drama: BEST HIT
01:22:52 – Suga’s mixtapes about the idol trainee life
01:25:20 – Favourite Groups
Another anniversary goodie: We did a Full House audio commentary for ep. 1! Watch and giggle along at the cheesy meet-cute and bad fashion of baby-faced Rain & Song Hye-gyo. 🙂
We’ve changed our name! Stars in My Pocket will henceforth be known as DRAMAS OVER FLOWERS, because no one could remember what we were called, lol. Otherwise, same three crazy noonas.
I can’t believe it, but we’ve been podcasting for a whole year! To celebrate our anniversary, @saya, @festerfaster and I decided to do a special episode where we chill and yak about how fell in love with Korean dramas, why we stayed, and what our first dramas were.
I agree so much with the Netflix discussion. I don’t like that they aren’t airing new K-dramas as they air in Korea. I feel like Netflix is losing an important (to me) part of Korean dramas when the subtitles ignore the personal nouns (titles, relationships, kinships) used in the dramas and when they switch the order of the names. If I can watch a K-drama on another site in the US, I go there instead of Netflix.
Back with our fifth (extreeemely) long yak, @saya, @festerfaster and me do our best to cover a large chunk of currently airing and upcoming dramas, as well as K-ent news and a list our favourite drama OSTs that rapidly got out of hand. (Link to the YouTube playlist below!)
Dramas we’re watching:
– WHAT’S WRONG WITH SECRETARY KIM
– GREASY MELO/WOK OF LOVE
– ARE YOU HUMAN TOO
– SKETCH
– SUITS
– BECAUSE THIS LIFE IS OUR FIRST
– WE MARRIED AS A JOB (aka Nigeru wa Haji da ga Yaku ni Tatsu, J-drama
(1:05:27)
News:
– Kim Hee-ae’s new film about comfort women
– Jo Jung-seok and Gummy getting married! Yay!
– Lee Je-hoon x Chae Soo-bin pairing for upcoming FOX BRIDE STAR
– New cross-dressing sageuk in the works, Mung Bean Chronicles
– 3 BBC shows getting Korean remakes
(1:28:38)
And then we take a look forward at the million dramas coming out in July:
– YOUR HOUSE-HELPER
– MR. SUNSHINE
– LET’S EAT 3
– LIFE
– ABOUT HER
– MY ID IS GANGNAM BEAUTY
– RISKY ROMANCE
(1:40:49)
Finally, the Question of the Yak: Which drama OSTs have found a permanent home on your playlists?
[you can find individual timestamps for each item on the SC page]
In this episode, guests Odessa Jones and @pogo1 join me to discuss #MeToo and the Korean entertainment industry, toxic tropes in kdramas, and how things might be changing.
Already commented on Saya’s post, but I only listened to a little bit and just have to say: jerk male leads must go! Wrist-grabbing must go! And I’m so happy that it seems that these characterizations are changing!
I didn’t hear them mentioned specifically in the bit I was able to listen to (I jumped right to when you were talking about SIG 💖) but we need more Dong-hoons, more Gang-doos, more Se-hees~ some of my favorite heroes.
I didn’t catch any of my personal ultimate favorites in the bit I listened to, but there are several heroes/shows mentioned that I haven’t had the chance to watch or were not on my radar, but they’ve now been added to the list! Thanks so much!
I agreed with all that you gals mentioned about being happy for the change to much nicer male leads, and actually that’s why I’m so happy with Lawless Lawyer, Sang Pil has trauma in his past but he never takes it out on Jae Yi and it’s pretty clear early on that he really admires her and likes her and he doesn’t need to hide it behind aggression.
On the other hand I heard someone mention a lot Pretty Noona and it’s take on sexual harassment in the workplace and I remember feeling the same way early on in my watching but I ended up exhausted, disappointed and pessimistic about how will we be able to make effective change when it can’t be done even in a fictional version of our world.
We ended up pretty exhausted and tired out by Pretty Noona too (this podcast ep was recorded almost a month ago). At this point, we’re debating whether to even bother recording a post-show deep dive for a drama that let us down so badly. =(
yeah I can understand that because it might just be an exercise in frustration to talk about everything that could of been, but it could also be sort of therapeutic to just lay those feelings of frustration out and just let them air out so that they’re not pent up inside.
Part 2 of our Looooong Yak! This time we talk about Cdramas, including the estimable Nirvana in Fire! And @saya asks me and @festerfaster: How do we choose what to watch?
I missed this because I was in the middle of a slump. @saya loves NIF! *blows kisses*
Don’t let the 54 episodes deter you @laica and @festerfaster! I wasn’t as disciplined as Saya. *cough* It took me a few episodes to get used to the storytelling style and the bombardment of character introductions, so I took a break after episode 12. But after episode 18 I couldn’t stop and marathoned it over a weekend.
By the way, I finished NIF2. It was entertaining but more of a straightforward story, not the mind-blowing experience that was NIF.
Thank you for listening! It was actually @festerfaster trying to get the two of us to watch. Maybe we’ll have a drama slump this summer and get to it then? I definitely want to watch, my list is just so looooong :'(
Part 1 of this month’s extrasuperlong Yak is up! @saya, @festerfaster and I discuss Misty, Mother, Mystery Queen 2, Radio Romance, The Great Seducer, Shall We Kiss First, and some older stuff!
*Super* agree with @saya on Radio Romance. I wanted to say it but I felt so guilty criticizing Kim So Hyun Because she’s so young… I mean it wasn’t completely her fault. The writing was off as well. I just didn’t feel the chemistry.
Anisa
July 4, 2019 at 12:19 PM
Our latest episode of What’s Up in Dramaland! News, plus SO MANY JULY PREMIERES. To help everyone keep track of the massive list, we have compiled them with helpful summaries and interesting notes on our blog, here.)
Rimi’s article on YG
TIME STAMP – 01:09 – Song Hye-kyo and Song Joong-ki file for divorce 02:41 – YG CEO resigns amidst corruption charges 05:01 – Jung Joon-young and Choi Jong-hoon face charges 08:10 – Spycam culprit sentenced 11:21 – Actors want their cut from YouTube reruns 16:28 – Parasite inspires propaganda 18:23 – Russian Crime Show to be remade in Korea
UPCOMING! 19:44 – Designated Survivor: 60 days 22:08 – Love Affairs in the Afternoon 23:40 – Watcher 26:19 – Level Up 30:23 – Hotel Del Luna 39:14 – Justice 41:36 – Class of Lies 42:37 – Doctor Detective 43:55 – Rookie Historian Gu Hae-ryung 45:04 – Doctor John 47:51 – Moment at Eighteen 50:41 – Let Me Hear Your Song 53:56 – Welcome 2 Life 57:31 – When the Devil Calls Your Name 01:00:03 – Melo Suits Me
—Awesome Patrons who support us—
@egads Steven Blackmore Lia W. @kimbapmoona @hades @gracefulegg Divina @jenmole @saoirse10
Patreon | Transcripts | Twitter |
Email: dramasoverflowers@gmail.com
Anisa
July 4, 2019 at 12:20 PM
I’ve been trying for hours but it keeps ignoring my line breaks, so I’m just going to leave it this time so I can post the episode. Sorry about the formatting everyone!
하데스
July 4, 2019 at 3:59 PM
No worries. Are you using a specific html tag for the line breaks or are you just using spaces normally.
Anisa
July 4, 2019 at 10:29 PM
Sorry, was 4th-of-Julying! I tried putting a br tag in, and also just regular spaces, but both gave me the above result, which normally doesn’t happen :/
하데스
July 5, 2019 at 1:24 AM
No worries. I hope you enjoyed yourself.
I just tried using the p and br tags myself but they don’t seem to work. You might have to rely on regular spacing to get what you want.
Anisa
May 27, 2019 at 7:06 PM
If y\’all are children of the 90s like me, you probably watched Disney\’s Aladdin on repeat. Check out my review of the perplexing, better cast, but still highly Orientalist remake here:
https://anisakhalifa.com/2019/05/27/film-review-the-new-aladdins-updated-casting-cant-resolve-its-flawed-foundations/
mugyuljoie is preciousss
May 28, 2019 at 12:21 AM
Sadly, I’m not surprised.
Anisa
May 28, 2019 at 12:56 AM
Me neither. But what a waste of $200 million.
egads aka Dame Maggie
May 28, 2019 at 4:23 AM
I didn’t expect much from Aladdin, and I see Disney lived up to my expectations.
KSKalways
May 28, 2019 at 7:01 AM
I might have said this before, but you really are a skilled writer, @Laica
*still going through the article, instead of working*
Anisa
May 28, 2019 at 9:38 PM
Thank you! 😊
Anisa
May 11, 2019 at 11:21 AM
We bring you some updates to the Burning Sun controversy, the tale of Park Yoochun’s expulsion from his agency, our anticipation of Ji Chang-wook’s next project, and some discussions of Korean multiculturalism. Plus the new dramas of May and what we expect from them!
(00:10:53 – We move on from the Burning Sun update to other news.)
—Awesome Patrons who support us— @egads
Steven Blackmore
Lia W.
@kimbapnoona
@hades
Gracefulegg
Divina
Jenmole
saoirse10
IMPORTANT LINKS:
1. Burning Sun update, translated by The Korean: twitter.com/AskAKorean/status/1120731744720826369
2. A thread by writer Wei Ting about the long history of sex trafficking in Korea and its roots in foreign occupation, first by Japan and then the US twitter.com/intewig/status/1120854717884555264
3. Two allegations of group sexual assault by JJY, CJH and others www.soompi.com/article/1319396wp…on-group-chatroom
4. Park Yoochun expelled from agency: www.soompi.com/article/1319722wp…ys-he-will-retire
5. Racist Korean restaurants in India: www.thenewsminute.com/article/no-ent…ms-staff-77970
6. Korean resistance to refugees: www.koreaexpose.com/south-korea-xen…gees-situation/
7. Survey about the acceptance of multiculturalism among Korean adults and youth www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20190418000775
8. Young Women In South Korea Are Driving An Era Of Change www.huffpost.com/entry/south-kore…e4b09dc528ced991
Patreon: www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers
Transcripts: akdramapodcast.wordpress.com
Email: dramasoverflowers@gmail.com
Twitter: @dramasoverflow
Anisa
May 11, 2019 at 11:27 AM
Oops, somehow the links got chopped! Check the description of the episode on Soundcloud for proper links to the articles. Sorry fam!
Anisa
December 30, 2018 at 7:39 PM
Here’s a special farewell to 2018 episode: a Year-End Yak! We go over all the dramas we’ve loved and hated with a passion, as well as honorable mentions, non-2018 stuff we loved, what we wish we’d watched, and more.
Happy New Year, everyone! Thanks for spending 2018 with us! Whether it was an intermission or a crescendo, we hope it was exactly what you needed.
Tell us about your 2018 watchlist! Check out the #DecemberDramas reviews everyone has been writing on Twitter. And take a look at the free bonus episodes uploaded on Patreon here: http://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers
TIME STAMPS:
00:03:00 – 2018 retrospective
00:10:10 – Paroma’s Honorable Mentions
00:27:43 – Anisa’s Honorable Mentions
00:29:56 – Saya’s Honorable Mentions
00:38:49 – BEST DRAMAS OF 2018
01:25:33 – WORST DRAMAS OF 2018
01:41:59 – Great Dramas We Missed This Year
01:51:25 – Non 2018 Dramas We Watched This Year
01:54:34 – Best Non Korean Dramas of 2018
MEET OUR AWESOME PATRONS:
@egads
Steven B.
Lia W.
@kimbapnoona
@hades
Dramas Over Flowers:
Twitter – @dramasoverflow
Email – starsinourpocket@gmail.com
Patreon – http://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers
mugyuljoie is preciousss
December 31, 2018 at 9:33 AM
I’m enjoying this so much! @paroma and I should never be permitted to watch a drama in the same room. We agree on sticky points of many dramas and yet her loves are often my hate watches. I’m afraid we’d ruin the dramas for each other.
Anisa
December 31, 2018 at 9:42 AM
Thanks! Haha but half the fun is in arguing about things we don’t agree on, right? 😉
Happy New Year!
mugyuljoie is preciousss
December 31, 2018 at 9:49 AM
Happy New Year!
Paroma
January 2, 2019 at 2:09 AM
Oh nooo! What did I love that you hated? I have to know now!
mugyuljoie is preciousss
January 2, 2019 at 3:07 AM
Your favorite was one of my hate watches. Sorry. I wanted to like it but I felt like the main theme was lost (and killed with PPL that often supported an opposite message).
Paroma
January 3, 2019 at 5:38 AM
Oh I’ll totally give you that. The PPL were peddling a very different message from the drama. But as @saya said (when defending INAR) I loved the story so much that that just didn’t matter to me. I could overlook it.
But this is why I wish one of them had watched MIGB – they could have brought this very glaring problem up during the episode and we could have discussed it.
mugyuljoie is preciousss
January 2, 2019 at 3:10 AM
I loved Dance Sports Girls to pieces and it’s eclipsed other youth dramas for me. The bonus is that it healed my APAD heart (not a Ye-liner, one of my other disagreements).
Anisa
December 10, 2018 at 3:48 PM
It’s time for the final Long Yak of the year! I can’t believe it. Don’t forget to come hang out with us on Twitter, where we’re doing one-tweet reviews of everything we watched in 2018 with the hashtag #DecemberDramas! (Also gifs. SO MANY gifs.)
Happy year-end, and happy holidays. Thank for all the love you gave us this year, for listening and supporting us, and especially to our Patreon patrons – you’ve completely blown us away with your generosity. ❤️
00:02:09 – Email: How to get involved in the Kdrama Fandom?
00:11:26 – Patreon shoutouts!
CURRENTLY AIRING –
00:15:27 – THE LAST EMPRESS
00:27:27 – TOP STAR YOO BAEK
00:45:13 – CLEAN WITH PASSION FOR NOW
00:56:37 – RED MOON BLUE SUN
01:01:55 – MEMORIES OF THE ALHAMBRA
COMPLETED DRAMAS –
01:13:14 – WHERE STARS LAND/FOX BRIDE STAR
01:30:25 – TERIUS BEHIND ME
01:34:46 – FAMILIAR WIFE
01:36:02 – BEAUTY INSIDE
01:46:15 – THE SMILE HAS LEFT YOUR EYES
UPCOMING DECEMBER DRAMAS –
01:52:29 – Fates and Furies
01:52:36 – Coffee Please
01:57:15 – Just Dance/ Dance Sports Girls
01:59:17 – The Return of Revenge
MEET OUR AWESOME PATRONS –
@egads
Steven B.
Lia W.
@kimbapnoona
@hades
Dramas Over Flowers:
Twitter – @dramasoverflow
Email – starsinourpocket@gmail.com
Patreon – http://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers
mugyuljoie is preciousss
December 11, 2018 at 1:20 AM
I listened to it already. I appreciated hearing the variety of opinions about the dramas plus it made me think a little more about why I disliked Fox Bride Star so much. Paroma and I have almost opposite taste sometimes, but we both disliked that one for the same reasons.
Anisa
December 13, 2018 at 9:07 PM
Thanks so much for listening! Yeah, we don’t always agree, but FBS was so egregious.
Anisa
December 10, 2018 at 3:39 PM
Aaaah the November Long Yak, with @saya and @festerfaster, where we discuss the Dramafever shutdown, and then:
– FOX BRIDE STAR/WHERE STARS LAND
– BEAUTY INSIDE
– TERIUS BEHIND ME
– PLAYER
– GHOST DETECTIVE
– THE SMILE HAS LEFT YOUR EYES/HUNDRED MILLION STARS FROM THE SKY
– KIM’S CONVENIENCE
– We finish off with a quick look at upcoming November dramas.
And finally: we launched a Patreon page. We love doing this podcast, but we need a bit of help! Here: https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers
Dramas Over Flowers:
Twitter – @dramasoverflow
Email – starsinourpocket@gmail.com
Anisa
December 10, 2018 at 3:35 PM
Yes, I’m terrible, and once again posting a backlog of episodes of Dramas Over Flowers because I forgot/was too busy with school. I only love kdrama school anymore guys, honestly.
Episode 26: Kpop and its International Fans
@festerfaster and I get @greenfields (Rimi) and @sicarius to come tell us why Kpop is invading the world, and how things work behind the scenes in the Korean music industry. (Links under the timestamps)
TIME STAMPS:
00:02:43 – Woes of Being a Kpop fan outside US
00:04:13 – Is Kpop a genre?
00:07:01 – Are Drama OSTs Kpop?
00:11:17 – How did you two come to this fandom?
00:16:59 – What is a Bias?
00:18:21 – Why Seventeen has 13 members
00:21:46 – Are Band dynamics scripted?
00:25:04 – Korean language lends itself well to rapping
00:27:39 – why Kpop rap is different from american/indian rap
00:32:07 – Conflict between an idol and a rapper
00:37:50 – Why are boybands more popular than girl groups internationally
00:40:46 – why do rimi and sica like boy bands more
00:44:24 – bromancey gimmicks on stage
00:46:15 – girl groups subjected to the male gaze
00:48:36 – how fangirls are maligned
00:50:54 – Toxic fandom and sasaengs
00:51:57 – When fans dictate what artists do
00:54:18 – HyunA and E’Dawn leaving Cube
00:55:52 – why companies promote fan obsession?
00:57:52 – slave contracts and lawsuits
01:01:19 – The East Light controversy
01:04:37 – why speaking the truth is hard under Korean Law
01:07:39 – Self produced artists
01:13:53 – opportunities for marginalised artists like Holland
01:17:27 – Do Kdramas portray idols well?
01:19:14 – Drama: SHUT UP FLOWER BOY BAND
01:20:58 – Drama: BEST HIT
01:22:52 – Suga’s mixtapes about the idol trainee life
01:25:20 – Favourite Groups
LINKS:
Sicarius’ post – http://www.dramabeans.com/members/sicariu…ctivity/634903/
Rimi’s Kpop covers – soundcloud.com/user-496240984/tracks
Realgreenfields – Tokyo
Dramas Over Flowers:
Twitter – @dramasoverflow
Email – starsinourpocket@gmail.com
Patreon – http://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers
Anisa
October 16, 2018 at 10:18 PM
It’s Episode 25! In this Long Yak, @saya, @festerfaster and I pontificate about the following dramas:
We’ve started:
Familiar Wife
Terius Behind Me
Full House
Life
The Ghost Detective
Heart Surgeons
Plus final thoughts on:
30 but 17
My ID is Gangnam Beauty
Time
Places you can listen to us:
> Soundcloud
> YouTube
> RSS
> Apple Podcasts
Anisa
October 13, 2018 at 4:53 PM
Another anniversary goodie: We did a Full House audio commentary for ep. 1! Watch and giggle along at the cheesy meet-cute and bad fashion of baby-faced Rain & Song Hye-gyo. 🙂
Anisa
October 2, 2018 at 8:24 AM
AN ANNOUNCEMENT
We’ve changed our name! Stars in My Pocket will henceforth be known as DRAMAS OVER FLOWERS, because no one could remember what we were called, lol. Otherwise, same three crazy noonas.
Anisa
October 2, 2018 at 9:05 AM
Also, our new twitter handle is @dramasoverflow! <- @saya came up with this brilliant name
mugyuljoie is preciousss
October 2, 2018 at 8:23 PM
That is brilliant!
Anisa
October 2, 2018 at 8:22 AM
I have no excuse for posting this over a month late, except that grad school is kicking my butt *sweatdrop*
Enjoy! And look for the next yak soon, I promise I will post it in a timely manner.
Anisa
September 8, 2018 at 6:13 PM
I can’t believe it, but we’ve been podcasting for a whole year! To celebrate our anniversary, @saya, @festerfaster and I decided to do a special episode where we chill and yak about how fell in love with Korean dramas, why we stayed, and what our first dramas were.
Places you can listen to us:
> Soundcloud
> YouTube
> RSS
> Apple Podcasts
하데스
September 8, 2018 at 6:32 PM
Congrats and Happy Anniversary!
Anisa
September 8, 2018 at 8:04 PM
Thank you so much!
wakimary
September 8, 2018 at 8:28 PM
🎊🎉happy podcast anniv!🎉🎊
Congrats and more podcasts! 😁
Anisa
September 8, 2018 at 9:35 PM
Thank you wakimary!
korfan
September 8, 2018 at 9:17 PM
Happy Anniversary!
Anisa
September 8, 2018 at 9:35 PM
Thank you korfan!
Waadmay
September 8, 2018 at 9:25 PM
Congrats 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Anisa
September 8, 2018 at 9:36 PM
Thank you, Waadmay!
Waadmay
September 9, 2018 at 12:57 AM
You’re welcome 💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝
Jellybn
September 8, 2018 at 9:53 PM
Yay! Congrats! Here’s to many more!!🎉
acacia
September 9, 2018 at 12:26 AM
Happy anniversary! Just recently started listening to your podcasts a few weeks ago and I look forward to seeing your guys’ podcast posts on db!
Anisa
August 17, 2018 at 7:40 PM
n episode 21 of our August Long Yak, @saya, @festerfaster and I pontificate about:
CURRENTLY AIRING CDRAMAS
– Legend Of Fuyao
– Meteor Garden 2018
COMPLETED KDRAMA
– The Undateables
– Lawless Lawyer
– Sketch
– Argon
– What’s Wrong With Secretary Kim
UPCOMING KDRAMA
– Familiar Wife
– Voice 2
– Lovely Horribly
– Ghost Detective
QUESTION OF THE YAK – Heroines who lost their backbone?
(obligatory penguin aje gag)
Places you can listen to us:
> Soundcloud
> YouTube
> RSS
> Apple Podcasts
Anisa
August 17, 2018 at 7:37 PM
This month’s Yak is so long we had to split into TWO parts!
In ep 20, @saya, @festerfaster and I discuss:
NEWS
– good oppas and problematics “oppa”s
– @netflix and their approach to #kdrama
– a non-korean kpop boy band?
CURRENTLY AIRING KDRAMA
– Mr Sunshine
– Your House Helper
– Thirty But Seventeen
– Time
– Life on Mars
– Your Honor
Places you can listen to us:
> Soundcloud
> YouTube
> RSS
> Apple Podcasts
mugyuljoie is preciousss
August 17, 2018 at 9:14 PM
Thank you!
mugyuljoie is preciousss
August 18, 2018 at 8:04 AM
I agree so much with the Netflix discussion. I don’t like that they aren’t airing new K-dramas as they air in Korea. I feel like Netflix is losing an important (to me) part of Korean dramas when the subtitles ignore the personal nouns (titles, relationships, kinships) used in the dramas and when they switch the order of the names. If I can watch a K-drama on another site in the US, I go there instead of Netflix.
Anisa
July 6, 2018 at 10:53 AM
Back with our fifth (extreeemely) long yak, @saya, @festerfaster and me do our best to cover a large chunk of currently airing and upcoming dramas, as well as K-ent news and a list our favourite drama OSTs that rapidly got out of hand. (Link to the YouTube playlist below!)
Dramas we’re watching:
– WHAT’S WRONG WITH SECRETARY KIM
– GREASY MELO/WOK OF LOVE
– ARE YOU HUMAN TOO
– SKETCH
– SUITS
– BECAUSE THIS LIFE IS OUR FIRST
– WE MARRIED AS A JOB (aka Nigeru wa Haji da ga Yaku ni Tatsu, J-drama
(1:05:27)
News:
– Kim Hee-ae’s new film about comfort women
– Jo Jung-seok and Gummy getting married! Yay!
– Lee Je-hoon x Chae Soo-bin pairing for upcoming FOX BRIDE STAR
– New cross-dressing sageuk in the works, Mung Bean Chronicles
– 3 BBC shows getting Korean remakes
(1:28:38)
And then we take a look forward at the million dramas coming out in July:
– YOUR HOUSE-HELPER
– MR. SUNSHINE
– LET’S EAT 3
– LIFE
– ABOUT HER
– MY ID IS GANGNAM BEAUTY
– RISKY ROMANCE
(1:40:49)
Finally, the Question of the Yak: Which drama OSTs have found a permanent home on your playlists?
[you can find individual timestamps for each item on the SC page]
LINKS:
Sarah Rees Berman’s hilarious thread about I Am Human Too
Our Favorite Kdrama OSTs Playlist
Stars in My Pocket: A K-Drama Podcast is also available at:
YouTube
RSS
Apple Podcasts
Paroma
July 6, 2018 at 12:21 PM
Sarah Rees Brennan. I don’t know how she turned into a Berman in our notes. XD
Anisa
July 6, 2018 at 4:18 PM
Oops! Sorry guys!
pickledplumtree
July 29, 2018 at 11:33 AM
That thread link doesn’t work but I’m interested!
Anisa
July 29, 2018 at 2:41 PM
I don’t know why it turned into a bad link – sorry! Here it is again, hope it works this time. (And thanks for listening!) https://twitter.com/sarahreesbrenna/status/1007017611048218626
pickledplumtree
August 4, 2018 at 3:43 PM
That IS hilarious!
Anisa
May 29, 2018 at 2:49 PM
Since I\’m a wrongly accused fugitive right now, I feel like I should change my avatar to a picture of Dramatic Lee Joon-ki
Min
May 29, 2018 at 2:53 PM
I vote yay!
Waadmay
May 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM
Great 💯💯
bam 🐢🐌💖~
May 29, 2018 at 3:28 PM
Yess!
wakimary
May 29, 2018 at 7:45 PM
I vote for Oppa’s pic from Two Weeks!
deadlybaby
May 29, 2018 at 8:51 PM
is this a fugitive of joseon reference
Anisa
May 30, 2018 at 9:30 PM
Also a Two Weeks reference. And maybe Iljimae? There are so many tbh
Anisa
May 28, 2018 at 12:58 PM
In this episode, guests Odessa Jones and @pogo1 join me to discuss #MeToo and the Korean entertainment industry, toxic tropes in kdramas, and how things might be changing.
Anisa
May 28, 2018 at 12:59 PM
Also, @festerfaster pops in with some important insights, and @saya was more behind the scenes this time. (Darn this 200 character limit!)
natzillagorilla
May 28, 2018 at 1:01 PM
YES!!
I was just looking for something to listen to while I make lunch/eat.
Thanks for sharing!
Anisa
May 28, 2018 at 1:38 PM
Thanks for listening! 🙂
mindy🐌
May 28, 2018 at 1:08 PM
Already commented on Saya’s post, but I only listened to a little bit and just have to say: jerk male leads must go! Wrist-grabbing must go! And I’m so happy that it seems that these characterizations are changing!
I didn’t hear them mentioned specifically in the bit I was able to listen to (I jumped right to when you were talking about SIG 💖) but we need more Dong-hoons, more Gang-doos, more Se-hees~ some of my favorite heroes.
Anisa
May 28, 2018 at 1:39 PM
Absolutely agree!
Ooh yes, I don’t recall if we mentioned Gang-doo, but I loved him so much. (You’re referring to Just Between Lovers, I hope?)
mindy🐌
May 28, 2018 at 1:45 PM
Yes, Just Between Lovers!
I didn’t catch any of my personal ultimate favorites in the bit I listened to, but there are several heroes/shows mentioned that I haven’t had the chance to watch or were not on my radar, but they’ve now been added to the list! Thanks so much!
Min
May 28, 2018 at 1:55 PM
I agreed with all that you gals mentioned about being happy for the change to much nicer male leads, and actually that’s why I’m so happy with Lawless Lawyer, Sang Pil has trauma in his past but he never takes it out on Jae Yi and it’s pretty clear early on that he really admires her and likes her and he doesn’t need to hide it behind aggression.
On the other hand I heard someone mention a lot Pretty Noona and it’s take on sexual harassment in the workplace and I remember feeling the same way early on in my watching but I ended up exhausted, disappointed and pessimistic about how will we be able to make effective change when it can’t be done even in a fictional version of our world.
Paroma
May 28, 2018 at 2:27 PM
We ended up pretty exhausted and tired out by Pretty Noona too (this podcast ep was recorded almost a month ago). At this point, we’re debating whether to even bother recording a post-show deep dive for a drama that let us down so badly. =(
Min
May 28, 2018 at 2:34 PM
yeah I can understand that because it might just be an exercise in frustration to talk about everything that could of been, but it could also be sort of therapeutic to just lay those feelings of frustration out and just let them air out so that they’re not pent up inside.
Anisa
May 2, 2018 at 11:47 AM
Stars in My Pocket’s First Impressions series is back! Check out our eps 1-4 discussion/squeeing/incoherent noona love. @saya @festerfaster
Anisa
April 20, 2018 at 9:09 AM
Part 2 of our Looooong Yak! This time we talk about Cdramas, including the estimable Nirvana in Fire! And @saya asks me and @festerfaster: How do we choose what to watch?
WishfulToki
May 21, 2018 at 8:37 AM
I missed this because I was in the middle of a slump. @saya loves NIF! *blows kisses*
Don’t let the 54 episodes deter you @laica and @festerfaster! I wasn’t as disciplined as Saya. *cough* It took me a few episodes to get used to the storytelling style and the bombardment of character introductions, so I took a break after episode 12. But after episode 18 I couldn’t stop and marathoned it over a weekend.
By the way, I finished NIF2. It was entertaining but more of a straightforward story, not the mind-blowing experience that was NIF.
Anisa
May 21, 2018 at 8:57 PM
Thank you for listening! It was actually @festerfaster trying to get the two of us to watch. Maybe we’ll have a drama slump this summer and get to it then? I definitely want to watch, my list is just so looooong :'(
WishfulToki
May 22, 2018 at 2:20 AM
Whoops, it seems I randomly assigned names to the voices, sorry…Great taste @festerfaster!
Anisa
April 9, 2018 at 11:21 AM
Part 1 of this month’s extrasuperlong Yak is up! @saya, @festerfaster and I discuss Misty, Mother, Mystery Queen 2, Radio Romance, The Great Seducer, Shall We Kiss First, and some older stuff!
JustMe
April 29, 2018 at 10:04 PM
*Super* agree with @saya on Radio Romance. I wanted to say it but I felt so guilty criticizing Kim So Hyun Because she’s so young… I mean it wasn’t completely her fault. The writing was off as well. I just didn’t feel the chemistry.