Beanie level: Fan club president

My disappointment in Lovely Runner had me trying to think about when the last really popular/mainstream drama I truly enjoyed watching live was. I think it was back in 2022, with Twenty Five, Twenty One, Business Proposal, and My Liberation Notes. How was that two years ago?!?

I think I’m doomed to be a kdrama hipster forever. 😶

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    Didn’t you like The Matchmakers, My Dearest or Knight Flower?

    I enjoyed them. They are good shows (different types of sageuks).

    And Twinkling Watermelon?

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      Aren’t the only shows you list that were really popular mainstream successes My Dearest and Knight Flower?

      I watched the first ep of The Matchmakers and thought it was bad… Knight Flower was fine but I had no desire to continue. I don’t like sageuks lol and I dropped Twinkling Watermelon, although I appreciate it as a show and it was definitely better than Lovely Runner.

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        MatchMakers did well enough globally, but was very popular here. That it’s finale was on Christmas Day was also a real experience.

        But that was also for me, @mindy, the last show that I liked that a lot of other Beanies liked–all the way to the end anyway. Wedding Impossible is a good example of a show that started weird, got really quite good, and then ended catastrophically.

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    Like, I really really want to watch Midnight Romance, but the more people rave about it, the more apprehensive I get! 😄

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      Please, tell me where are the people that talk about Hagwon, because I’m searching for them desperately. 😭 The fan wall is making me feel lonely. 🥺

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    Didn’t you watch Behind Your Touch when it aired!?

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Ummmmm…

Okay I\’m about to say something very embarrassing.

I was watching episode 6 of The Midnight Romance in Hagwon and got very confused. Why does it seem like I have watched this before? Why are all of these scenes so familiar? Didn\’t we already see all of this? Am I going insane?

Well, Beanies, it turns out that instead of watching episode 1 the other day… I watched episode 6…

When we got to episode 2 I thought the story was just backtracking and telling us how we got here. I was a bit confused on some things but, well, I was watching while cooking and figured I just missed something.

I kind of forgot all about it and continued to watch the show without remembering the weird beginning… until I started watching episode 6.

Again.

…I can\’t come back from this I am so sorry show I think I\’m going to have to drop you out of utter shame and embarrassment and confusion omg.

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    Does that mean one could really just start at episode 6? I’ve been wondering if I should just skip to the middle somewhere…

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      Considering the fact that this probably played into why I felt detached from the show, I would not recommend that LOL

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    Don’t worry, it happens. 🙂

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It’s late (for me) and I’m feeling emo about fleeting internet friendships right now.

@natzillagorilla thinking of you and hope you’re doing well! I know you haven’t been on DB in ages and perhaps never will again but, on the off chance, I just wanted you to know.

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    @mindy You probably already know this, and I’m really sorry if you do…but I have been thinking about this for a while, and I want you to have the best chance of contacting your friend!!

    On the offff chance that @natzillagorilla has their email notifications on, at-mentions don’t get sent out that way (anymore??). I don’t know why–and it’s irritating.

    If you’d like to ensure that they get an email from Dramabeans, you can go find a Fan Wall post of theirs and post a comment. That’ll trigger at least two emails their way…

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    Awww Natz!! Here’s another well wish for you (and Persephone 🐈) if you happen to see this message!

    Hopefully she and all of the DB gang from back then are doing well

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    I was just thinking of her the other day. I really hope @natzillagorilla is doing great.

    And you as well!

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The Midnight Romance in Hagwon ep 4: Ooooh, this is what I’m talking about! We finally get a student in the mix, and seeing our teachers actually care about their job in a way that feels real to me did wonders for my investment. It was really simple, but I also enjoyed the flashbacks from their tutoring time interspersed throughout the present-day lecture.

Okay, drama. I’m paying attention now. Show me what you’ve got.

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The Midnight Romance in Hagwon ep 3: I usually go to education-related dramas because of the heartwarming, inspiring relationships between the teachers and the students. I assume this show will eventually get there, but it’s taking forever. When am I gonna see these lecturers actually lecture to students…? I’m beginning to think that I should readjust my expectations for this show.

I find the topic of hagwons and the tension between them and traditional schooling to be interesting, but the drama honestly doesn’t seem to be doing much of anything with that right now. I know the first episodes of a drama are for laying the ground work, but I am really hoping this show goes somewhere soon. I like the general vibes and the actors but the characters haven’t captured me enough yet for me to enjoy this snail pacing or care about the inter and intra-hagwon rivalries/politics.

Also, I’ll never stop being astounded at how lecturers in Korea can apparently reach celebrity status. The marketing is craaaazy.

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    3.5 episodes in and i feel the same.. but i saw your post on ep 4 so i have hope!

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      It’s still sloooooow but I’m starting to enjoy it a bit more each episode now that they are actually, well, teaching.

      It’s a bit of a nothingburger of a show, though. From some of the comments I saw I thought it would have sharper social commentary, but it isn’t there for me yet.

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When you finally try to prioritize life over kdramas but your watch list keeps trying to seduce you


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Some misc Frankly Speaking gifs for your perusal





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Have any other readers of r/KDRAMA noticed how needlessly severe the mods there are becoming? The absolute weirdest comments get locked lately.

I remember them saying they were reinforcing sub rules around the time all the dating rumors/drama happened, but I thought it was just about separating dramas from real life gossip, which I can sort of understand. But I just saw a comment get locked for basically saying that the upcoming Pyo Ye-jin/Lee Jun-young drama plot sounds trite. Like, what? How on Earth is that worthy of locking a comment?

I can understand actively offensive, bigoted getting locked or deleted, but just stating a slightly negative thought? Really?

There goes another decent place for kdrama discussion.

Dramabeans really is our last hope as a community.

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    I remember the old Soompi’s drama section was like Reddit, to a lesser degree. I once had a comment deleted for stating why I didn’t like a certain actor. Some fangirls’ feelings were hurt because someone didn’t love their oppa. It’s so childish, but I’m sad to see a once lively site so quiet.
    DB is our last hope.

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    @mindy Are you seeing an exodus from reddit to here? Are more folks switching over to Dramabeans because of these changes?

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      I haven’t noticed any in particular. 🤔 To be honest I haven’t seen any complaints over there outside of the posts where they did the big rule reminders/updates a month or two ago, and the critical comments I saw… were locked LOL. And I don’t even see those posts now when I go back and look for them!

      You have me considering doing a promotional spiel on a future free-for-all thread over there, though! But maybe the mods would lock my comment, HA.

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📚What We\’re Reading📚

Happy Sunday, Beanies! I\’m back with another WWR thread, and this time I come with something vaguely Dramaland-related!

Before that, though, I finished Mistborn: Secret History by Brandon Sanderson and am super eager to jump into my next Mistborn book! If you read the books and haven\’t read Secret History, I highly recommend it. It gives you a good look at some of the things happening \”behind the scenes\” of the world.

After that, I dove into Fingersmith by Sarah Waters. Some of you may know this story better as Park Chan-wook\’s adaptation The Handmaiden starring Kim Min-hee and Kim Tae-ri. I have yet to see the film, but the moment I heard what it was about I was so shocked that a highly successfully, critically acclaimed Korean film adapted a work that was so unabashedly sapphic! At the same time, there are so many story beats that fit the mold of your standard Korean narratives that it actually isn\’t so surprising. I\’m only about halfway through at the moment, but I find it fascinating and am so curious to finally watch Park\’s version of the story. It is not a romance, but I find myself oddly invested in our two central young women and how they navigate the odd, disturbing patriarchal world they inhabit–that is, of course, a mirror of our own.

I\’m eager to see how this story unfolds!

What have you been reading this past week, Beanies?

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    Oh, and reading Fingersmith had me thinking more and more than dramaland has no excuse for its lack of lesbians considering The Handmaiden and how the line between drama and film blurs more and more with the rise of streaming (and cable). Come on, Netflix, you know what you need to do! And grab Jeong Seo-kyeong to write it while you’re at it–I just know she wanted to do something more with a certain storyline in Little Women

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      @mindy – Sarah Waters’ Tipping the Velvet is another fantastic novel featuring a pair of lesbian lovers. I high recommend it. There’s a decent British film adaptation. I’d love to see the story adapted by a more adventurous creative team—particularly one from a different culture.

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    I’m reading Lockwood & Co The Empty Grave. It’s 5th tome of the serie.

    I have the 4 books in French, but looks like it didn’t work in France and never translated the last tome… So I have to read it in English.

    I watch all my dramas with Eng sub, and the same with US shows, so I like to read in French usually.

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    Now I know this is going to happen I will post my reads here rather than on the WWW thread. I hope the others that have posted book reviews in the past are aware of this thread and use it too as I have picked up some of their recommendations in the past.

    Currently I am without a novel on the go but the non fiction is filling the gap at the moment. My current listen is written by a hospital chaplain that I follow on Instagram: As long as you need by J S Park is a ‘work’ related book on grieving. It is a harrowing listen as it is very well written and the individual stories are very impactful.

    I will be starting How K-dramas can transform your life: Powerful lessons on belongingness, healing and mental health by Jeanie Y Chang afterwards. Another ‘work’ related book as she is also a family therapist and talks about this topic on her Instagram posts.

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    I stopped She Who Became the Sun, to read The Taking of Jake Livingston, and then stopped Jake for a webnovel that the author of a webtoon I love recommended.

    I can’t read books the way I see dramas apparently. All at the same time doesn’t work for me. 😆

    After I finish this webnovel I’ll finish Jake and after Jake I’ll go back to She Sun.

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    I read The Handmaiden years ago, and I meant to see the film but somehow never have. I am going to try to get it. For some reason I got a bunch of memoirs from the library the last time. Over the weekend I finished Doppelganger by Naomi Klein, which was part memoir, part politics. I am also reading Year of the Tiger: An Activist’s Life by Alice Wong.

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(Sorry that I keep posting things that are decidedly NOT about Korean dramas lmao)

I have very belatedly been bit by the Olivia Rodrigo bug–don’t get me wrong, I’ve always liked the songs of hers I’d heard (Good For U is a banger every time I hear it played) but I’d never actually listened to Sour or Guts as full albums before recently and it’s so easy to understand how her popularity has transcended generations. I’m just rehashing what every critic has been saying for 3 years now, but she really writes the angsty teenage experience in a way where you remember how you felt as a teenager AND how, deep down, you often still feel today. And her songs are funny, too. I am really excited to hear how she matures as an artist as she gets older. It’s crazy to me that she’s only 21.

I honestly can’t remember the last time a popular young female artist had a truly rock edge to her music and I love it.

This isn’t my favorite song off of Guts, but I fear that “The morning after I panic, oh god, what did I say?” and “Each time I step outside, it’s social suicide” will never stop being relatable, lmao.

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The Brave Yong Soo-jung ep 1: Don’t ask me why I’m watching this. Actually, I’ll tell you: I needed something mindless to put on when cooking dinner tonight and then realized this is probably exactly what Korean ajummas do when they watch their daily dramas and hey… I get it.

In this very first episode we saw our heroine as a little girl go through her mom having cancer, her parents going missing during an accident, her evil aunt taking over her house and giving her bedroom to her cousin, being locked out of her house, her mom coming BACK, and then her mom dying after trying to save her from the fire that our little heroine caused when she was locked in a room by her aunt and unable to get out.

This sure is a Daily Drama.

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    I watch family dramas (weekender and daily), but I’ve noticed that I can’t with MBC. For exactly everything that you described of that show, hahaha.

    But the crazier the show, the easier it is to put it on the back while you do something else… Maybe that means MBC is doing it right? 😆

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    That one episode sounds like a film🤣 No wonder they end up repeating the same issues for next 120 episodes don’t the writers feel embarrassed submitting the screenplay😳

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Me now while watching Frankly Speaking when I remember how I said I wasn’t super into Go Kyung-pyo as an actor during Love in Contract

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Frankly Speaking ep. 6: The dating show concept is trite (especially after the stinkers that were Love is For Suckers and Oh! Youngshim) but I like this show enough that I’m willing to put up with it.

I think the most delightful thing about Ki-baek’s disinhibition is what it means romantically. When one party speaks so candidly, it makes the conversations so much more refreshing than usual. I’m hoping they go somewhere good with it.

I could also do without the two guys fighting over a girl YET AGAIN, especially when they seemed to be such good friends in the past (I am getting flashbacks to the truly awful All That We Loved) but if that and the conflict between Woo-ju and Ha-young can be resolved in a satisfying way then I’ll be fine with that as well.

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    His mild disinhibition is also delightfully subversive in a context where some of the norms of the modern Korean and certain aspects of the dominant hierarchical cultural mores emphasise nunchi as being extremely important to social cohesion.

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📚What We\’re Reading📚

Hey everyone! So, I decided to go ahead with this idea for all us bookworm Beanies out there!

I just finished John Green\’s The Anthropocene Reviewed, which I thought was a delightful collection of essays. I don\’t often read essays or memoirs or really anything nonfiction, and when I do it\’s a nice change of pace for me. Oddly enough, I realized this is my first time actually reading John Green after so many years of being familiar with him and Hank on the internet! I\’ll definitely get around to reading his fiction works… some day, at least. I have over 500 books on my TBR. 😶

At the beginning of this year I decided to read all of Brandon Sanderson\’s Cosmere, and roughly every other book or so I\’ve been reading has been a Cosmere book (if anyone\’s curious, my favorites so far are Elantris, the first Mistborn book, and both The Way of Kings and Words of Radiance–super excited to get to the 3rd Stormlight Archive book!). I\’ve been reading by publication date because that\’s the kind of person I am.

So anyway, last night I started Secret History, which basically fills us in on some of the stuff happening between Mistborn books… kind of. Saying anything else would be spoiler-y. I\’m honestly super into all of the little interconnecting things Sanderson is doing in these books. You definitely don\’t NEED to read every single one of his worlds/series to understand the others, but being able to catch the Easter eggs and gain a deeper understanding of things is something I really like because I\’m a big ol\’ nerd. Reading this book has been really fun so far, especially since it centers around a character we haven\’t seen for a while and who I really enjoy.

So, what have you all been reading lately? I hope your weekend has been going well! 💖

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    Can you recommend me some books, I used to read but not have been for a long time.. I like books that have simple language , don’t want to search the meaning of every word I read 😉..But I do want to improve my vocabulary so somewhere in the middle hehehe..
    I want to read something light about life or anything like that..I do like to watch romances but for some reason I haven’t found the right romantic book for me.. I also like crime novels.. It would be a great help if you have some recommendations 😊

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      Except for academic stuff I usually don’t read books in English. I only started doing it last year.

      I read Camus in Spanish, so Idk if the English translations are complicated, but I would say he’s easy to read (regarding the vocabulary).
      La Caída (“the fall” in English, I guess, but don’t trust my translation) could be a fun read.

      Btw, I have noticed that reading a book (in English) while listening to the audio book helps me not get lost even if I don’t understand all the words. Maybe that can help you too.

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        Thank you ❤️🤎🩷

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        Thanks Tabong! I think my taste doesn’t quite align with what Skiee was looking for haha.

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    I have a friend that’s obsessed with Sanderson. I told him I was going to read Mistborn… six years ago. T.T but I’ve made up my mind I’ll start it this year! 😂

    I’m just reading random stuff these days, so today I started “She Who Became the Sun”. I love the main character already.

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      Haha! I was the same way! Actually, I read the first one a few years ago and really enjoyed it but didn’t continue at the time. Now I’m in deep and having a blast, personally!

      I really enjoyed She Who Became the Sun as well as the sequel! Glad you like it so far.

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        I’m waiting for the right timing, haha. But I have the feeling I’m going to love it too.

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    I’m reading She and her Cat, by Makoto Shinkai and Naruki Nagakawa.
    I started it just yesterday but so far it’s very nice and sweet.

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      That sounds lovely! I have been meaning to read more Japanese authors. It seems like Japanese literature has become really popular lately.

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    Brandon Sanderson is our family’s favorite author. We are reading “The Way of Kings,” but I’m lagging behind because I prefer to watch films or dramas.

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      How fun!! I will say it took me a bit to get into The Way of Kings, but once it caught me and I got used to all the POVs I had a great time, and I was ALL IN for Words of Radiance!

      I tend to go through phases of reading vs. watching dramas. Honestly, my brain seems to like books more, but I also get dangerously addicted to them in a way that I don’t for dramas, haha.

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        Thanks to your post, I’ll start reading it today! 😊

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Frankly Speaking ep 2: Man, it’s so nice to see Kang Han-na in such a vibrant role! She has been stuck in the “ice queen second lead” role for so long, it’s a breath of fresh air to see her in a role like this.

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Frankly Speaking ep 1: Go Kyung-pyo’s a national treasure. That is all.

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Okay, Beanies, I\’m sleep-deprived with a million responsibilities begging for my attention and a million books from the library to read, which of course means that I\’m going to reach for TV instead.

So, I\’m asking a stupidly open and non-specific question to you all: Besides The Atypical Family, what show(s) should I be watching right now?

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    I like Frankly Speaking

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    Lovely Runner ❤️

    Frankly Speaking is a drop for me unfortunately.

    I also started a weekender to ‘have something to watch’ – Beauty and Mr Romantic

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      Sadly, Lovely Runner was a drop for me!

      I’ve yet to meet a weekender I find worth my time but I’ll take note of Beauty and Mr. Romantic, thanks!

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    You do know ‘Crash’ is airing right??

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Also, as my favorite young actor Lee Re officially turned 18 recently (absolutely insane, how does time fly so fast?!), it seems like The Atypical Family and See You in My 19th Life\’s Park So-yi is competing with The Kidnapping Day\’s Yuna for that spot in my heart. I can\’t wait to see what they do next, and I can\’t wait for Lee Re to get more of the lead roles she deserves now that she\’s growing up!

Dramaland sure knows how to pick its young talent, but I think it often does a bad job at fostering them and letting them grow (not to mention the terrible things that youth in every entertainment industry are at risk of facing), and I only hope for the best for these shining stars!

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    Lee Re is very good I first saw her in Hello me and then in Castaway diva last year where she was exceptional. I hope her transition into adult roles goes well she will be great in gritty character roles like IU played in Broker and My mister.

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    I too wish all the best for Lee Re … may she find happiness and success in whatever she chooses to do in her career. ❤😊

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First off, I\’m sorry for keeping everyone hanging with my last post! Life seems to keep getting away from me. I promise that one day I will keep my promises.

But anyway… I\’m kinda-sorta watching stuff now, as in I am watching a grand total of one (1) drama. And somehow it\’s not the \”fluffy\” time slip romance drama with the brilliant Kim Hye-yoon that everyone else is watching (I just got kinda bored of it, okay?!).

I find it so curious that The Atypical Family feels fresh despite having so many of the markings of your typical k-dramas. The male lead from a rich family, the female lead from a poor one. The traumatic pasts. The superhero powers that seem to be more and more common in dramas as time goes by. The broken families. The \”time travel\” element. The past connection.

So what is it that makes it feel unique? Is it the conwoman female lead? Is it the widower male lead? Is it the brutally flawed yet sympathetic characters? Is it the odd directing style that is somehow simultaneously a bit elegant while also being a bit grungy? Maybe all of the above and more?

It\’s somehow quite unlike anything I have watched before, and as someone who has been watching k-dramas for practically half of my life now, I can\’t remember the last time a drama felt new to me. The show doesn\’t grab me and give me that high that many of my favorite dramas do, but I feel this odd sense of ease and pleasure while watching it for some reason. I can\’t quite describe it, but I enjoy it and all of its oddity.

I think it helps that I\’m not quite sure where the drama is headed, and I\’m happy to let it show me.

Also, Chun Woo-hee is beautiful and contains multitudes.

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    It seems this drama has divided beanieland into those of us who think this show is interesting and quite different (for everything you said) and those who totally dislike it.
    I’m in the first group 😊

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      I’ll be honest, I found some of the comments on the first recap to be… a lot. I am, of course, not saying that shows like this portray flawed people with generation trauma, depression, alcoholism, etc. realistically, but the way people so easily write off even fictional characters and call them worthless, incapable of change, and even suggesting they should just die came across as incredibly callous to me.

      TV is not real life, but if people can’t even give fictional characters grace, give them the opportunity to make mistakes but also find their way, how can we ever be capable of giving real people that grace?

      And to be clear, I am not saying that people need to like watching damaged, flawed characters. For many people that is not what they go to fiction for and that is totally fine! But it’s the comments from people who DO watch and view these flawed characters so cruelly that give me pause.

      Speaking as someone who HAS struggled with mental health, we exist in real life and we deserve to live. And seeing the overly cruel comments directed towards fictional characters whose struggles and experiences mirror those of real people can be very disheartening.

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    Thanks Mindy for your thoughts on THE ATYPICAL FAMILY. It is such an interesting and unusual drama. I figure by episode 4 those whose cup of tea it isn’t will probably have dropped it.

    If you think some of the first TAF recap comments were rough wait until (if and when) the recap for the first episodes of DARE TO LOVE ME is released. Buckle your seat belts.
    I am enjoying both so I will be sticking with both dramas.

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    Hi Mindy! Glad to see you’re back watching something! I, too, am enjoying the directorial and artistic choices that Atypical family is giving me. I didn’t really read the recaps for 1-2 at all, but did read 3-4 and left a comment as well. Gone are the days that I would read every line of the recap and comment accordingly. Ain’t got no time for that. I’m loving the musical direction of this show too, for the most part. See you around!

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    Welcome back, life happens so we all accept that beanies come and go.

    Did you still want to do the weekly What we’re reading? If so is it going to be hosted on your wall or the Open Thread and are you doing it on a Saturday too or will you opt for mid week to avoid the weekend site glitches?

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    I’m so glad you’re enjoying the drama. It is quite a refreshing chance.

    Also we literally watch dramas to see our characters grow … what would a drama be if all the characters are perfect from the get-go.

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It is a sad day when you know you shouldn’t get behind a ship in a book but you do anyway (before the characters even met… so all throughout the first book and much of the second…) and you then see your ship sink before your very eyes. 😭 I swear my time on tumblr has poisoned me and I start shipping couples in books where I should NOT BE SHIPPING lol.

But ah well, I love all the other things about the book (well, except for the person who inserted themselves between my OTP and made my ship sink… who I find very boring and spoiled…) and shall soldier on with a heavy heart, thinking wistfully of what could have been. This is definitely not a romance book, so I must not allow the tragedy of my delusional romance bring me down.

But anyway! The reason I am here is because, as you may be able to tell, I haven’t been super into dramas lately (although I am watching Lovely Runner, which is… fine) and I know there are some fellow bookworms on Dramabeans! So I thought of something that would allow me to stay engaged with the community even if I’m not watching much.

You know how we have the What We’re Watching threads? Well, what if I started a weekly What We’re Reading post on the fanwall? Genre does not matter! I am a fantasy girlie at heart but I am open to any and all genres and would love to hear what Beanies have to say about their recent reads, whatever they may be.

Please let me know if there is interest!

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    I have been reading this book which I’ve loved. Hope you don’t mind me posting a great review:
    “ This short review makes me want to read this even more:
    “Memoir

    Christian Cooper has been birdwatching in Central Park for decades, but a spring migratory excursion took a dramatic turn on May 25, 2020, when a woman refused his request to leash her wandering dog, per park regulations. He was hoping to spy a ground-dwelling bird called a mourning warbler and knew that her unleashed pet would make his quest impossible. After she refused and Cooper began filming with his phone, Amy Cooper–a white woman of no relation–announced that she was about to call the police, adding, “I’m going to tell them that there’s an African American man threatening my life.” Her blatant use of “weaponized racism” went viral. As Cooper aptly sums up the incident in

    Better Living Through Birding: Notes From a Black Man in the Natural World (Random House, $28, 9780593242384), “Fourteen words, captured amid sixty-nine seconds of video, that would alter the trajectory of two lives.” This encounter happened on the same day George Floyd was murdered.

    A year later, Cooper was invited to attend a birding festival in Alabama. As he walked across Selma’s infamous Edmund Pettus Bridge, he reflected on the day that bridge became a bloodbath in 1965 and on the travails his ancestors must have endured. “In that context, my incident in Central Park is just an asterisk,” he writes. “More than a year later, it remains exceedingly strange for me–the notoriety, that I’d even be mentioned in the annals of the nation’s racial strife.”

    Throughout his wide-ranging memoir, Cooper is a thoughtful, enthusiastic narrator. Growing up as a Black kid on Long Island, New York, in the 1970s, “I was rarer than an Ivory-Billed Woodpecker in the very white world of birding,” he writes. “As I simultaneously struggled with being queer, birds took me away from my woes suffocating in the closet.” Cooper gradually came out to family and friends, beginning while studying at Harvard in the 1980s. He went on to become one of Marvel’s first openly gay writers and editors–aside from birds, his other passions include superhero comics and sci-fi and fantasy–and introduced the first gay male Star Trek character in the Starfleet Academy series. In entertaining prose, Cooper reminisces about his life, writing especially poignantly about his often-difficult relationship with his father.

    Tying these multifaceted strands together is no easy feat, but Cooper does it well. He peppers the text with helpful tips for beginning birders while recounting vivid excursions through Nepal, the Galapagos, Australia and, of course, his beloved Central Park. Generous soul that he is, Cooper writes that outrage shouldn’t be focused on Amy Cooper. Instead, he concludes, “Focusing on her is a distraction and lets too many people off the hook from the hard, ongoing examination of themselves and their own racial biases. . . . If you’re lo

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      Thank you so much for sharing this book as I only heard about the incident and it’s great to hear the context of the man. I think your post got cut off.

      I am very late to the party as my access to the site has been limited due to the multiple issues with slowness and lost comments etc.

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        Thanks for alerting me to the last sentence being cut off!:
        “ racial biases. . . . If you’re looking for Amy Cooper to yell at, look in the mirror.”

        –Alice Cary

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          No worries at all☺️ It happens to us all and thank goodness for the foresight to write the essay posts offline so we have a copy to copy and paste from when this happens.

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      Cooper’s ordeal got a lot of press coverage—not only for what happened to him, but for what happened to his accuser, a woman named Amy Cooper, in the aftermath. What she did was truly reprehensible, but the response was way out of proportion to the offense. She lost her job, received death threats, was subjected to doxxing, and was driven nearly to the point of suicide. Christian Cooper himself said he felt sorry for her, refused to cooperate with the criminal investigation against her, and encouraged people to focus on the problem of systemic racism rather than on the actions of this one individual. If only there were more people with his objectivity, compassion, and strength of character!

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    Last month I read a few books, including The House in the Cerulean Sea. And I liked it so much, I re-read it this month.

    I’ve been trying to decide if I should read Conversations with Friends, or the series Six of Crows, or Ace of Spades, or what. But because I keep trying to figure out what to read next I end up reading nothing (and go back to webtoons).

    And what are you reading, mindy?

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      I’ve read the Six of Crows series, and it was great! Leigh Bardugo has started a new series based on her character Alex Stern–two books so far, Ninth House and Hell Bent. Bardugo has a new adult novel out, The Familiar and there’s an interview with her about it here: https://www.npr.org/2024/04/30/1248058853/fantasy-writer-leigh-bardugo-on-magic-miracles-and-her-version-of-hell

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        Thanks!
        I really like the “found family” trope, and many people mentioned Six of Crows as a good example of it.
        And a little fantasy is always welcome!

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          It is a good example of it. I also watched the TV series. I liked the Alex Stern books because they are excellent examples of the genre of fantasy where people use magical realism to complain about how out of place they felt in college. (Or in the case of R. F. Kuang’s Babel, how they felt in grad school!)

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    YES YES YES to this!!
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    Honestly, I’ve been reading mindless webtoon a lot more than I have been reading actual books— probably why my “to be read” list of actual books is ever growing, why there’s a pile of biographical books sitting on my desk (wherein I’ve only cracked open 2). BUT!!! I did recently get back into the book, “Anxious People” which is on my Kindle, but honestly, this one has been going real slow, like a snail’s pace

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    I had bought this book when it came out but somehow I never got around to read it. Just picked it up – A brush with shadows.

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    I haven’t started them yet but I have both Funny Story by Emily Henry and Just for the Summer by Abby Jimenez on my kindle. Both Romcoms. Oh and trying to slowly catch up on Apothecary Diaries and Yona of the Dawn, Mangas, that are so good.

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    I watched Lockwood and Co on Netflix, it wasn’t renewed so I was curious about the whole story, so I started the books. I’m reading the second one, I have ordered the 3 and 4 and learnt that the 5th was translated in French yet…

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    A great idea Mindy!

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    Mindy this is such a great idea and I look forward to having this space as I just add them to my WWW post. Unfortunately, I only do audiobooks at the moment and have burned through my credits 6 months early! So I have to rely on what is available for free until I can get some more credits. It will be great to hear what other people are reading though and see if there are some to add to my list.

    I have had site issues for a few months now and I wonder if others are experiencing it too so may have missed this post like I did. It may be worth flagging the idea on an Open thread so others can be made aware. There was a request for a group read and that lead to the DB book club membership I have tagged in the current members who may be interested in your weekly hosting of current reads post:
    @indyfan @mellowarmadillo @attiton @elinor @ahjummaaa @toomuchtv @wonhwa @jls943 @cayong03 @babylilo @ruhi0101 @petrolia @acacia @dramaforever@zindigo @linarrick @ndlessjoie @sonai @kdramajoy

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      This week, I reread Deadeye Dick, a Kurt Vonnegut novel I got in 1983. I was at my parents’ house, clearing out my bookshelves! Yesterday I read Rental Person Who Does Nothing by Shoji Morimoto (did I get the rec for that on here? I can’t remember who told me to read it.) I also read the DB bookclub book The Sense of Wonder which I won’t spoil except to say it was PERFECT for us. Also a graphic novel called Gaytheist by Lonnie Mann.

      I wonder if there is a way for you to borrow audio books from the public library. We can do it through my library. It’s worth exploring. I don’t listen to books very much, but I have borrowed some when I couldn’t get the book in print or when I had to drive somewhere. Hearing a book in your ear is so intimate–it’s really unforgettable. Especially if the book starts with a graphic sex scene, which did happen to me once–walking through my neighborhood with my face on fire.

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        I read Rental person who does nothing a few months ago so maybe you saw it in my WWW one week.
        I am impressed you have read this quarter’s DB book club read already! I hope you made notes for when the questions come out.
        I need to join the library I am sure they do have audio books available I didn’t think of that.
        That unfortunate episode re the raunchy opening scene must have been a real eye opener😳 poor you.

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          I listen to audio books from the library but find that I have to use Audible for more recent books like the ones chosen for the DB book club reads.

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          The book was really good. I finally found an actual paperback of it in a Little Free Library. It’s called The Argonauts, by Maggie Nelson. I think it’s not for everyone, being a combination of explicit queer sexuality and a ton of academic allusion and name-dropping. Yet I really loved how the memoirist wrote about her relationship with her partner, and some of the names she dropped were people I admire.

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      I’m often unable to load this site, or it loads so slowly that I move on to the things I have to do for the day. I guess I’m glad to hear it’s not just me. I’d be here more often if this weren’t an issue.

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    I’m on board with a “What We’re Reading” conversation! I’m always interested in learning about books that other people have enjoyed.

    Like @mindy I’ve been watching fewer dramas these days, especially the Korean ones. I read a lot—both for my own pleasure and as part of a book group I co-lead. I loved our most recent book—Ann Patchett’s Bel Canto. It’s about a group of people from around the world who have gathered for an opera recital at the home of the vice president of an unnamed country in South America, and who are taken hostage by a terrorist group. It was inspired by an actual hostage situation at the Japanese embassy in Peru in 1996.

    I’m not a big fan of the fantasy genre, but I did enjoy the parallel-world novel Piranesi, by Susanna Clarke. Some of my other recent favorites:
    A Gentleman in Moscow, by Amor Towles
    Nothing to See Here, by Kevin Wilson
    Shadow Divers, by Robert Kurson
    Deacon King Kong, by James McBride
    The Orphan Master’s Son, by Adam Johnson
    Project Hail Mary, by Andy Weir

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