Beanie level: Jang Geu-rae

omggg that ending of ep 11 oh my baby!!! i’m glad i trusted Hari as a character and the writing. And seriously Jaeyoung needs to piss off.

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    That ending is so pretty and I bet no dry eyes around.

    I was admiring that long street with the red brickworks mingling with the greenery and lights – and voila, the ending scene happened, so so beautiful!

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Have any of my fellow beanies watched any of episodes 18-24 of Romance of Tiger and Rose?? I need to discuss show with someone!!!

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    Not yet, but I just finished Find Yourself! I liked in overall. I thought the characters were real, had good conversations and were fun to meet and be around. I guess I’m in more in the forgiving camp about the second male lead by the end as well. It was a new thing for him to have to pursue a girl and his methods were not ideal. They weren’t inherently evil, but very misguided. He was jealous of the younger fox and was thinking he would outwit him to get the girl. He didn’t think love was a strong enough emotion (their love was stronger than anyone of them knew—well, except Yuan Song) to make everything he ended up doing irrelevant. And that’s a great lesson to learn. And Yuan Song was bothered, but of course couldn’t really do much about it, except to just continue to keep her occupied with him. And this could have backfired as well. But I could admire his tenacity in continuing to pursue her even though she was very much taken. I preferred that Yuan Song was honest that he would continue to love her even as she was trying to live someone else. But you know who my favorite character was? The design engineer who looks like Park Bo Gum!!! Yep, he’s my favorite. I’ll watch Romance if Tiger and Rose this week to ep 21 and be back to talk about this!

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      Oh my, he does sorta look like Park Bogum now that you point it out lol. He was a great character – I think I appreciate it when a character is unassuming (and thus unexpectedly) a person of integrity and strong will.

      I’ve submitted to my fate that no one else will experience the same level of disdain for the 2nd ML as me lol.

      Actually, it’s funny because just this morning I was thinking about how Professor Song handled her relationship with her long time partner when she found out she was pregnant. Tho I think this is mainly a fault of bad writing, and yes I can imagine people actually doing this, but I just expected her to have actually left the choice in his hands. Given that she is a (sociology?) professor who also works as a relationship expert.

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        Yeah—professor song annoyed me at the end as well. It’s that whole noble idiocy where one person assumes what’s best for the other and doesn’t communicate openly. So annoying.

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      And yes please circle back once you are done with ep 21 of Tiger and Rose!

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    I’m done!!!!!!!!

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      Ahhhhh!! I just finished it last night (I actually held off for a couple of weeks because from the trailers I knew there were some painful episodes coming up and wanted to make sure there were happier episodes available so I don’t have to dwell too long in the misery – tho the misery wasn’t actually as bad as I expected).

      What are your thoughts?? What did you think of the ending?? And speaking of annoying 2nd ML, what did you think of Pei Heng??

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        I liked it a whole lot than I had thought! This is fluff drama and I got what I wanted in the end – a HEA. And it was a HEA that made sense to me, so that made me extra happy. I was worried that she would wake up and everything were all just part of her dream and nothing more and that she would happen to fall in love with Actor Han just because he looked liked Han Shuo. I’m glad that totally didn’t happen. I was delighted that Actor Han had dreamt about their time too. That they were the same OTP from her dramaworld.

        I fell in love with Han Shou episode by episode because he was consistent in his character growth! He came to life, made decisions of his own. Xiaoqian was his creator, but he had freedom to either choose this or that. He changed for the better. He chose to be a better version of himself. I didn’t think his ending was too soapy. It was fitting. It made sense. He had to die because he was written that way and that was the only way she could come back. But I went totally “ooooof! That hurt😭” when he said he was happy to die this time because it was for her. The woman he came to love on his own will. Aaaaaaaaaah 😭

        Unfortunate that Chuchu went off the trails when she came to life. I agree with Xiaoqian in the last episode, when life wasn’t fair to her, she sought revenge and revenge and hatred ate her up. I’m glad Cherry was redeemed. I really didn’t like him and I didn’t want him to be redeemed at first. And then I thought about it, he was written to serve ChuChu and did everything he could to overthrow Qianqian because he was written that way. But he came around and realized who he was better off serving as a master. He too had the freedom to either blindly serve ChuChu or see for himself the change in ChuChu that was going wrong.

        Anyways, it became too tropey and too political somewhere a long the way because of noble idiocy, and how the drama didn’t really answer “how” they got sucked into her dramaworld, but but the ending made me happy and ep 22 was a memorable episode to me!

        Let me know your thoughts about it!

        Pei Heng – let’s see. He was very persistent, as a typical trait of a second male lead but he eventually gave up on Qianqian, I’m fine with him. I actually forgot about him after Qianqian and Han Shuo got together. To me he started on another path – to become the military head minister getting out of his shell and broke the norm where females were leading the army.

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          Trust Famy to say a few words!!

          I also liked the ending. And that he was part of the act and brought back the memories though he didn’t have the same awareness as her while he was in it.

          He fell for her against the script. And he did everything because he wanted it. I liked that part. He did not follow the script and his love for her felt real because of that.

          ChuChu was poorly written. They just made her bad for the sake of it. She could have been a much better villain.

          Pei Heng- If you see his as a female second lead (in historic context), his behavior seems consistent, immature and helpless. He annoyed me a bit and then I reminded myself that he is not the ‘man’ we are used to seeing. His context and upbringing is very different. Once I tell myself that I feel sorry for him and don’t hate him.

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            LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. I swear I thought that was a short…. reply….. then I shookt when I saw how lengthy it was when it was posted!!

            Anyways yeah unfortunate ChuChu was badly written; just so we could have our typical villain character, but I`m glad she was re-written at the end.

            I agree with Pei Heng,

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          You pretty much took the words out of my mouth. I appreciate the overall theme of “don’t judge a book by its cover.” Time and again, characters when they came to life didn’t turn out as they were originally written and expected and not only did Qian Qian needed to learn that lesson but also many of the characters also had to evaluate their understanding of other characters too (like cherry). Besides Han Shuo fully living up to the ML role and capturing all our hearts, I also appreciate the case study of Pei Heng. TBH, he annoyed the crap out of me with his “Han Shuo, you’re trash and you don’t love Qian Qian and she is just temporarily under your spell” nonsense, he was originally written as the perfect male character (eg. educated, gentle, upstanding character, good looking), but the show really made us realize that even a person with such a “perfect” set of traits has their own serious flaws.

          Regarding Chu Chu, I’m not familiar with the actress, only other time I saw her was in Put Your Head on My Shoulder and she played a similar role – I hope she’s not typecasted!

          My main complaint with the ending is that it was so rushed! Like it was literally resolved in ~5 minutes (when they both realized they had dreamt the same dream).

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          Oh I just remembered, the other hilarious thing was, I love how Han Shuo’s mom is Mulan rofl

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        Missing these two happy bbs 😭😭😭

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Is anyone watching c-drama Joy of Life here?!? It’s so good but I haven’t seen any comments on the fan posts!

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    yup..lot of people are watching it actually

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    I am enjoying it but I’m hardly on DB these days.

    Usually if a C drama makes it to fanwall, it is cracktastic. Joy of Life is one of the better C dramas out there however, not one which I feel compelled to talk about it on my fanwall or make gifs.

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      This said if you post on your fanwall to talk about the drama, I think you’ll get some replies. There were times I felt like talking about it but I too thought hardly anyone is watching.

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      It’s crack to me. Actually, maybe not crack. What’s a drug right below crack?

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        I have no idea.

        Now I remember what I badly wanted to talk about – Fan Xian’s bodyguards/sidekicks. All amazing in their own ways and funny.

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          Maybe a lower dosage of crack?

          Possible Spoiler:
          I was really sad about the departure of one sidekick but then the next is just as awesome in his own way!

          So many fun characters in the show….which made me really want the heroine to have a bigger personality soon.

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            Crack in lower dosages might be apt. Apparently my will is helping me not get consumed. It’s also helping me not get frustrated through an overdose.

            I too love that the loyal bodyguards/friends/sidekicks are awesome in their own ways. That keeps things fresh.

            Sometimes I wonder if Wan’er is actually a lead in this drama. But I think we might be getting more of her now.

            Xian’s brother and step-mother are really interesting atypical versions of their respective archetypes.

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        same! I know it’s blasphemous to say it in the streets, but I do not get the appeal of the Untamed and this is infinitely more addicting. Though @outofthisworld makes a good point, I don’t feel compelled to gush about it (maybe because unlike other addicting dramas, I’m not in love with the male lead – I like him as a character, as an actor, but I don’t feel THAT way about him), I would like to see more comments though.

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    I am and I love it. I haven’t done GIFs though.

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    I am watching too @myriver 🙋‍♀️although I am very behind only on episode 22.

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About to start ep 24 of Go Go Squid. Question that has been buggin me: why didn’t Han ShangYan even bother to explain the situation to Squid’s mom???? Instead, he just promised to break up…why???

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    If only we knew. lol. My guess is just trying to respect her mother’s wishes.

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    copying and pasting my post on Ayan’s http://www.dramabeans.com/members/ayaan/activity/840466/

    His insecurities get the best of him! He did mention before that he’d never regretted anything before, but his past is now bothering him because it’s hindering his relationship with Nian Nian. Everytime someone talks brings up his past (ie his mother, his buddies) he gets super sensitive and ask them back if he was that awful before. Nian Nian’s mother drilling in his brain that he’s not worth her daughter made him stop and think what if it were really the case. He’s a noble idiot alright. I’m glad he’s getting out of that phase now and start to fight for his right to be with Nian Nian.

    And somebody, I think it was thatsp who mentioned that he didn’t leave a good first impression on their first meet. He was an a.hole that night, and she did bring that up to him. So, first impressions are really big deal. Now he’s paying for being an ass.

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    It’s the typical thought process of him thinking that he’s not good enough for her because of what Mom said 🤷🏻‍♀️ The good ol’ “noble” idiocy but really, it’s nit noble at all… just idiocy 🙄🙄)

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Calling all beanies who are watching Go Go Squid – let’s spazz! Am creating this as the dedicated space for the GGS Fan Club (we will need to think of a name).

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    @hades @silentbeluga apologies for the delay! Please add anyone else you know who would be interested 🙂

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    Okay, questions:

    1. Can somebody please explain to me why Solo wanted to leave the team 10 years ago?
    2. Did anybody else read the novel yet?

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      More shocking thing for me was Solo had a baby with Gun’s manager 😮 But Gun’s manager is married to Gun’s friend in Norway. 😦Solo and Applelady (forgot her name) are I guess not together anymore??? 😱

      This is one messed up relationship. If I were to see the relationship chart of this drama, it would be a cobweb for sure.

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        Oh! Xiao Bai is crushing on Applelady…………….

        Gun is in the middle of all these relationship. Just hoping he isn’t tangled with any of these. And that his first love is actually uri cute Squid. ☺️

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      From what I understand, Solo cheated on Appledog with Gun’s now colleague in K&K and they had a child. So I’m thinking Solo left the team for better opportunities because he now had a child to look after. And Appledog left the team because of the betrayal. The team broke because they both left and Gun felt there was no point in competing and staying without the team so he retired. Then Solo formed SP and gathered all Team Solo apart from Gun who already formed K&K. So Gun is upset on his old team because the other two, All and Xiao Mi, still went with Solo and Appledog when they were the ones who broke up the team in the first place. The novel doesn’t explain the backstories at all. This is what I got from watching the episodes.

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        Yeah, it was all very confusing to me because when Gun announced that he was retiring, it seemed like Team Solo was still together because everyone seemed shocked and mad even of his decision (when if in fact Solo and Appledog were gonna leave the team, everyone should be more understanding??). I was hoping that the novel would better explain things, but it really didn’t.

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          That was confusing. Like why does it seem like Gun’s fault when everyone knows it isn’t? Maybe what they’re really upset about was his retirement? Makes no sense, show, but carry on. Haha

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        Ok, if this is the case, then nobody should be pissed at Gun, nobody. And in the drama, when All and Xiao Mi are hanging out, they made it seem like it should be so easy to sweep everything under the rug. Why? Because competing is more/so important that you should let bygones me bygones. Everyone is selfish. Everyone is self-centered.

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          Exactly. But I think they’re upset at Gun because everyone in Team Solo have reconciled except him? Even Appledog forgave Solo for what he did. But Gun is still holding on to his grudges instead of talking it out with the team and letting go. Not Gun’s fault really because everyone has their own time and way in forgiving people and they should be allowed that. Time heals all wounds as they say and Team Solo will reconcile sooner or later.

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          Well there was that one scene where All expressed he was more disappointed and mad at Gun for retiring because he was the hero that everyone looked up too so it was like the entire industry losing its foothold/reason for existence…which I can understand. What I don’t understand is how they could so easily forgive Solo and Appledog. And moreover, not extend that same understanding to Gun. Smh. Shitty friends tbh.

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    🙋‍♀️ Reporting for duty! Haha I wasn’t expecting to be this infatuated with this drama. I read the novel and found it just okay, a little smutty even. The adaptation has been great so far. There are some things that are off but more things I really like.

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      It’s a smutty novel?!! I love smutty novels!😂

      Tbh I’m not too attracted with the plot but I’m watching all episodes without fast forwarding. I struggled hard to finish ep 2. I Finally finished it last night and next thing I knew I’m currently at ep 12! 😅😅 this drama is addicting even tho I’m not gushing over the plot.

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        Here’s the link to Mo Bao Fei Bao’s books, just look for Stewed Squid with Honey: https://hui3r.wordpress.com/mo-bao-fei-bao/ I don’t think they’ll film the novel as is because of the scenes in the novel. LOL But they’re already heading towards that territory when Nian Nian rummaged Gun’s pocket for his keys. Hahaha

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      did you read the go go squid novel and the other stories in this universe? i only read Squid because of this drama. and im uncomfortable by the age gap in the novel. lol. especially the very intimate part of the novel.
      is the age gap in the drama different than the book??

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        I haven’t read the novel but think in the drama it is like 10 years?

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          so same then. they have a 10 year age gap in the novel too! im okay with big age gap, but still cant help exclaiming from to time, “dude, she’s 19!” lol

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            Yeah, the age gap really bothered me. At first in the drama it didn’t bother me so much (in part because I know they look to be similar age and I thought she was in her 20s as she’s a grad student but then they had to make her into a child prodigy. but then for some reason in the novel, the 10 year age gap became more apparent to the point it really bothered me. Well, it’s not even the age gap that bothers me, but the infantilizing of Squid and Gun’s attraction to her just came across as slightly child pornographic.

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            @myriver the drama doesn’t really emphasize much their age gap, so I didn’t think it was a big deal. But the novel did and that’s when their age gap started to bother me. Especially he keeps referring to Squid as “kid”. In his mind she’s the kid he’s very much into.

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        I only read Squid and yes, still same 10-year gap. Gun is almost 30, so 29 and Squidie is 19.

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          Oooooh, see that’s a very salient point. I’m generally super-sensitive about age-gaps, particularly if one of the OTP is a teenager (I dropped Gobelin because of it) but it didn’t bother me this time. Maybe because I’m identifying with Squidie in a weird way. I also started university when I was 15 and also, errr….. well, maybe fell for an older gentleman when I was 20 (kinda at first sight too) so I’m weirdly ok with it. That said, I totally agree with everything beanies have said and had I not had a “Oh wait, I did that when I was her age” reaction to this specific story, I would probably have raised an eyebrow or two as well.

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            The age gap didn’t bother me because she was a post-grad student which basically means she can go and find work if she wants to and be at equal footing with Gun. I’m really confused with Korean high school where they are in senior year at 19 or 20 instead of 17 and 18 like the rest of the world.

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            Yeah I can totally see things from Squids perspective and don’t have any issues with her crushing hard on Gun. I just didn’t feel like the writer gave Gun a compelling reason to love her other than lust (and her clinging to him). In the novel that’s how I felt anyway. And yes, that’s a perfectly realistic and common reason to like someone, I just wish it wasn’t in the context of a large age gap, clueless/naive girl and accomplished man.

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            I agree. I also have an issue with what Gun said, that when you’re together, feelings are bound to follow. That’s not really true. You can be with someone for a long time and not develop romantic feelings at all.

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            With Gun, you kind of have to force him into relationships, no? Haha That way, he can go along and then finally realize, ah, this kid isn’t so bad. Oh, I kind of like her. I just finished Episode 14, I’m like, you spent approximately $138,000 on a girl only for her to break up with you? Go get the girl back at least!

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      Yeah, honestly I don’t know why I’m watching this drama because the narrative isn’t all there and some of the developments just plain don’t make sense, etc. Well I do know why I’m still watching – for Li Xian lol even though his acting You Xian (“is limited” in Chinese) haha.

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        It’s the fluff, very good, excellent fluff! 😊

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        and some of the developments just plain don’t make sense

        Agreed. Like the breakup. That breakup didn’t make any sense. It annoyed me more than anything. I FF though most of that ep.

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          It’s Tong Nian’s first relationship and she was so embarrassed for getting drunk that she wants to cut-off the pretend relationship because she thought she inconvenienced Gun a lot. (Reading that back, it seems I’m just making things up for the drama to make sense because I like it too much. Hahaha) I’m glad they did break-up because then they can just start a real relationship. It was weird reading it in the novel but all I care about is them together so I let it be and just read on. So I’ll just watch on…

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            And to know that it was her drunken behavior that “awoken” Gun to his feelings huhuhu, I just can’t…it’s too much for me to handle!

            I haven’t watched the drunk scene yet, I’m curious to know exactly she did and if it was in fact so burdensome to warrant her offering to breakup. I agree with @zetteceniza tho that it was just a mechanism we didn’t to get thru so they can be together for real. Sigh.

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            The break up made sense to me. I think she felt he was just letting he …save face I guess. After that dinner were no one believed her and then letting her choose the break up day. I’m sure in the back of her mind she was worried about annoying.
            And he needed it to realize he really likes her. It was cute how he let her into his life but never realized what that might mean.

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            I get where you guys are coming from, but it was more that she was running away from something that wasn’t that egregious that annoyed me. We do stupid things when drunk. It’s hard to face it, but come on.

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    Yaaaay! Count meeeee innnn! 🙋‍♀️

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    Also, the youtube comments be cracking me up.

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      is the youtube episodes subbed?? or where do you watch the subbed eps?

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        Unfortunately they are not. I’ve just been watching them raw (I do understand Chinese…for the most part) so I’m sure I’m missing some of the nuances and jokes but I get the general gist. But the comments are like “director, can you please stop with the memories. We hate them. We just want our OTP” or “as humans, we must look forward and not back at our last, no?” Or “…I’ve been ensnared by these two…”

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        Briian, it’s subbed on viki! And they’re pretty much caught up with subs too. Ep 15 and 16 are almost done.

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          Viki is not available in my country *sobs*. unto the illegal sites then *sigh*

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    I’m not sure if it was discussed already but Solo is the jackiest of asses. I appreciated that he was direct and honest with Little Mi about his performance instead of blindsiding him later. But did this jerk need to have that conversation on his birthday, and in front of All. He is a total ass.

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      Finally saw this scene. Yeah, I agree, I don’t know why he had to share it in front of All. I guess it decided to tell Xiao Mi on his bday because it was a perfect excuse for it to just be them without Appledog, though when I think about it, I’m not sure why she couldn’t be there for the conversation but All had to. But otherwise, I am squeeing so much from this episode, I died when Gun asked Grunt how to give women a sense of security.

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    Reporting 🙋🏻‍♀️🙋🏻‍♀️🙋🏻‍♀️ Finally lol

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    @hades @silentbeluga @13infamyss @zetteceniza @bcampbell1662 @pinklolipop @lurkermabz @bebeswtz @kimbapnoona

    My apologies my beautiful squiddies. I just started a new job and I have been swamped. As a result I am only on episode 19 >.< But I have been watching some previews of future episodes and adorbs! And seriously, how can anyone be as beautiful as Li Xian and his hands, he has beautiful hands. And his nose bridge. While generally I don't care about the height of one's nose bridge, I nonetheless appreciate his prominent brow bone.

    On my drive to work today, I was wondering if anyone, like me, took a reaction time test when they talked about it earlier in the series? I don't know if I am slower than average (well actually yes, according to the data given on the website, I am slower than average – but I blame it on my computer ;)) or if the show has set unrealistic expectations on human reaction time. I didn't try too many times, but my fastest time is 278 ms. Here's the test for anyone who's interested: https://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime.

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