Call It Love: Eps 11-12
So, I didn’t love this week’s episodes as much as previous ones. I found the ending a little absurdist, which was entertaining. But the rest was hmmm. Spoilery thoughts below.
The one arc I did appreciate this week was Jun’s. Show gave him a good story, and some solid talk-throughs and monologues of what he’s going through on account of the siblings this week. From a starting point where I didn’t see the point of Jun being there (I still don’t, tbh, other than as a potential interest for noona), to appreciating his growth as a character regardless of relevance, I think it’s been pretty okay.
I think fundamentally the set-up is weak – of the house being taken over and the siblings being to leave. This is compounded the totally flat delivery by the actress playing ML mom, and the characters around her (her current bf, the hairdresser aunt, etc). Where are the lawyers? How can some random goons strongarm the siblings into vacating? where are the possession rights? when was the will read out? how did the ex-wife not know about this before?
As contrived as this set up is to begin with, it has not been as well thought through as the rest of the show, which effectively means the show is resting on a poor foundation.
The mother lied and said that the father gave her the house before he died i.e. not that he left it to her in his will. But I also don’t understand why they never asked to see proof that she owned it rather than just leaving. I can only put it down to their utter lack of faith in their terrible father.
okay let’s ignore the siblings. they’re (a) stupid, and (b) did not trust their father, (c) expected him to do something stupid like this and (d) didn’t think they should check in with their mom about any of this anyway. Okay.
Then my question would be how is the realtor entertaining her? surely she should have seen the papers that entitle her to the property?
And that (relatively) new arc the show is stringing about her current bf wanting money to escape his loan sharks, or whatever, is wholly unnecessary at this point. As though we don’t have enough unresolved – and unwarranted – messes.
Yep yep yep. How is she selling a house without proving she owns it first? If anything, her claiming to own it when she didn’t would explain why she didn’t sell it. But now she’s put it on the market? That makes no sense.
Maybe this is the reason she didn’t sell it in the first place. This thought came to mind while watching this week’s episodes: where did she live before with sibling’s dad? Was that house theirs? Why did she move?
In Spain there is an organism where you can ask if there is a will, insurances or any property to the name of a deceased person and you get copy of all that…. but as someone pointed out before, according to dramas Korean Law is quite a mess…
She wants to sell the house. Don’t think they have legally started the process. She was only talking about estimates.
She was the legal wife and she is selling her husbands house. Whose name is on the title would make all the difference
Which we don’t know yet.
Agreed. There isn’t much left to uncover in terms of the plot. The only major arc remaining is Dongjin finding out about Woojoo’s intentions of revenge, which is really dragging and putting a dampener on things. Hyesung nailed it when she said Woojoo made her staying the night sound like she was dying. I’m also conscious of the FL having a handful of expressions, which worked up to a point but I would really like to see some nuance because as it stands now, all I’m getting is that Woojoo is uncomfortable all the time.
Oh absolutely agree! She’s making it out to be a big deal, but I also don’t see how things can be reversed from here. It’s basically a pain of no return from here on out. I can only see DongJin being abandoned, and going off in his camper van forever now.
Also, I’m LSK bias, because BokJoo is forever seared in my heart, but I can see that she’s out of depth here. But I also maintained this from the start – none of the actors are doing an amazing job or anything, IMO.
This drama has been resting on the cinematography (let’s agree to ignore the pink filter which has not significantly improved with later episodes sadly), framing / art direction, and some decent direction. Show had a relatively weak opening, very strong middle, and now I’m not confident of the end..
I also thought that she lied about Dongjin apologizing to her (while talking to her mom) I don’t think he knows yet.
Because when talking to Sun Woo she clearly said she has to reveal a lot if she has to explain her actions of revenge.
So we do have the big reveal yet to come. How DJ will take it is anybody’s guess.
It’s in line with her personality. She takes everything upon herself and suffers alone. what’s worse is she knows what hurt him before. Women lying and walking all over him. And now she sees herself as another one in his life. Another deceiver.
Sadly, she has kept her one friend in the dark. I miss their scenes together. I don’t like that the show has more of Jun and elder sibling more than the friends.
She had a good chance early on to reveal. When she recognized she likes him and didn’t know he liked her. She blew her chance.
Trouble now is she is in this too deep. She wants this. and she is behaving in ways she would never. I think I get her conflict. Even if DJ forgives her I don’t know if she will forgive herself soon.
I’m still enjoying this. The show hasn’t changed anything for me. It’s just people doing people things. Dumb stuff et Al.
Oh yes that DongJin apologizing to her thing was totally a lie, all in her imagination!
And yes! I feel like the show could have shown the Jun-WooJoo dynamic more, and made him seem more relevant, instead of relegating him to a noona love interest, which honestly, I totally felt what he was feeling, and it would be soooo icky awkward…. (which is why I also appreciated his arc this episode).
I can’t see how Woojoo can reverse this – it’s kind of crossed the rubicon, and there can be no HEA from here. I can’t see it happening. We’re just waiting for the inevitable … boom. In one scenario, okay, I can see DJ saying, oh it’s no big deal, I hate my mom anyway, and we can ignore her completely, but she’s always going to be looming over them, so unless she – umm – dies or something drastic like that happens, there can be no scope for reconciliation even, at this point.
That line, where she says, “We’re both stupid people” – I was silently yelling at the screen, saying, “HECK YES”!
I’m enjoying the show generally too (just that I like these eps less), and I will watch through till the end, whatever happens (I say I’ll be burned, like 2521 burned 😂, but it’s ah well okay).
The mom arc is only going to get more ugly. She is broke and desperate. I kind of liked the parallel between and Hyesung, both women cannot be alone. One person serial married and another serial dated.
I am not saying they are similar, but I do like that the show didn’t make the mom a caricature. I liked that Min Young gave her a piece of her mind. It was long due. How will her arc end? Redemption? I doubt they are gonna kill her off.
She is greedy for money so I wonder how they will settle this.
DJ will sell his business or his share in the business, give the money to her to silence her. He will ensure – somehow – the house is returned to the kids / or maybe she has no right to title anyway, so whatever sale she tries will be a dud. And then, since by now, he will have learnt the truth about the house and the owners, he will go off into the sunset in his camper van. Woojoo will be eternally depressed too, and will hang on to Jun’s friendship. DJ and WJ will cross paths one day in Seoul, and wonder, what if…. An open ending.
I’ll be happy if none of this comes true 😂
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I liked Minyoung giving it back to her. But idk if mom is just a terrible actress or her character is badly written. I was cringing so much while watching her scenes. Same with Hyesung. Show gave her a more rounded story, but still kind of irrational.
I see that the show is about dealing with different types of loneliness, and serial dating / marriage is how Hyesung and Heeja are trying to cope with their version. To that end, their characters work. But beyond that, I can’t get behind their motivations. (Maybe the writer can’t either, which is why they’re so flat as characters 😂)
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Okay I feel I’ve written so many essays on this. I won’t have anything to write in the recap. boo.
The Heeja arc, being the central pillar on which the whole story is resting, can’t quite be ignored, but I do wish the show had written this arc / character better, and the director should have instructed the actress better 😂
Absolutely agree about Hyesung, and maybe Woojoo and Jun will help her find her own space and identity (and that would actually be a great character arc / resolution for Jun-Hyesung).
The dream-apology sequence was interesting. I’m not sure I liked it much, because I feel it doesn’t help her character grow – it suggests she’s still stuck in the lying mould, when she needs to be honest with herself and everyone around her. Enough lying already. This is why, like Blue said earlier, Woojoo’s relationship with Jun is so precious, because he’s the only one who knows, and whom she’s actually told the real story herself, voluntarily. He’s her confidant and true friend, and with whom she’s most comfortable. She needs to realize that telling the truth is what will get her there, to that comfortable space. Because right now, gosh she’s not comfortable 😂
The karaoke scene was my most favourite scene in this week’s episodes – there was so much subtext in that panning of the camera – truths, lies, and everything in between. It was a loaded scene!
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pickleddragon
March 30, 2023 at 12:20 AM
Call It Love: Eps 11-12
So, I didn’t love this week’s episodes as much as previous ones. I found the ending a little absurdist, which was entertaining. But the rest was hmmm. Spoilery thoughts below.
pickleddragon
March 30, 2023 at 12:21 AM
The one arc I did appreciate this week was Jun’s. Show gave him a good story, and some solid talk-throughs and monologues of what he’s going through on account of the siblings this week. From a starting point where I didn’t see the point of Jun being there (I still don’t, tbh, other than as a potential interest for noona), to appreciating his growth as a character regardless of relevance, I think it’s been pretty okay.
I think fundamentally the set-up is weak – of the house being taken over and the siblings being to leave. This is compounded the totally flat delivery by the actress playing ML mom, and the characters around her (her current bf, the hairdresser aunt, etc). Where are the lawyers? How can some random goons strongarm the siblings into vacating? where are the possession rights? when was the will read out? how did the ex-wife not know about this before?
As contrived as this set up is to begin with, it has not been as well thought through as the rest of the show, which effectively means the show is resting on a poor foundation.
Ally
March 30, 2023 at 12:39 AM
I’ve never thought the Korean judicial system was very well organized or accountable.
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
March 30, 2023 at 2:10 AM
The mother lied and said that the father gave her the house before he died i.e. not that he left it to her in his will. But I also don’t understand why they never asked to see proof that she owned it rather than just leaving. I can only put it down to their utter lack of faith in their terrible father.
pickleddragon
March 30, 2023 at 2:36 AM
okay let’s ignore the siblings. they’re (a) stupid, and (b) did not trust their father, (c) expected him to do something stupid like this and (d) didn’t think they should check in with their mom about any of this anyway. Okay.
Then my question would be how is the realtor entertaining her? surely she should have seen the papers that entitle her to the property?
And that (relatively) new arc the show is stringing about her current bf wanting money to escape his loan sharks, or whatever, is wholly unnecessary at this point. As though we don’t have enough unresolved – and unwarranted – messes.
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
March 30, 2023 at 2:40 AM
Yep yep yep. How is she selling a house without proving she owns it first? If anything, her claiming to own it when she didn’t would explain why she didn’t sell it. But now she’s put it on the market? That makes no sense.
Eazal
March 31, 2023 at 11:31 PM
Maybe this is the reason she didn’t sell it in the first place. This thought came to mind while watching this week’s episodes: where did she live before with sibling’s dad? Was that house theirs? Why did she move?
In Spain there is an organism where you can ask if there is a will, insurances or any property to the name of a deceased person and you get copy of all that…. but as someone pointed out before, according to dramas Korean Law is quite a mess…
Blue (@mayhemf)
March 30, 2023 at 2:47 AM
She wants to sell the house. Don’t think they have legally started the process. She was only talking about estimates.
She was the legal wife and she is selling her husbands house. Whose name is on the title would make all the difference
Which we don’t know yet.
kadota
March 30, 2023 at 2:18 AM
Agreed. There isn’t much left to uncover in terms of the plot. The only major arc remaining is Dongjin finding out about Woojoo’s intentions of revenge, which is really dragging and putting a dampener on things. Hyesung nailed it when she said Woojoo made her staying the night sound like she was dying. I’m also conscious of the FL having a handful of expressions, which worked up to a point but I would really like to see some nuance because as it stands now, all I’m getting is that Woojoo is uncomfortable all the time.
pickleddragon
March 30, 2023 at 2:40 AM
Oh absolutely agree! She’s making it out to be a big deal, but I also don’t see how things can be reversed from here. It’s basically a pain of no return from here on out. I can only see DongJin being abandoned, and going off in his camper van forever now.
Also, I’m LSK bias, because BokJoo is forever seared in my heart, but I can see that she’s out of depth here. But I also maintained this from the start – none of the actors are doing an amazing job or anything, IMO.
This drama has been resting on the cinematography (let’s agree to ignore the pink filter which has not significantly improved with later episodes sadly), framing / art direction, and some decent direction. Show had a relatively weak opening, very strong middle, and now I’m not confident of the end..
Blue (@mayhemf)
March 30, 2023 at 3:30 AM
I also thought that she lied about Dongjin apologizing to her (while talking to her mom) I don’t think he knows yet.
Because when talking to Sun Woo she clearly said she has to reveal a lot if she has to explain her actions of revenge.
So we do have the big reveal yet to come. How DJ will take it is anybody’s guess.
It’s in line with her personality. She takes everything upon herself and suffers alone. what’s worse is she knows what hurt him before. Women lying and walking all over him. And now she sees herself as another one in his life. Another deceiver.
Sadly, she has kept her one friend in the dark. I miss their scenes together. I don’t like that the show has more of Jun and elder sibling more than the friends.
She had a good chance early on to reveal. When she recognized she likes him and didn’t know he liked her. She blew her chance.
Trouble now is she is in this too deep. She wants this. and she is behaving in ways she would never. I think I get her conflict. Even if DJ forgives her I don’t know if she will forgive herself soon.
I’m still enjoying this. The show hasn’t changed anything for me. It’s just people doing people things. Dumb stuff et Al.
pickleddragon
March 30, 2023 at 4:03 AM
Oh yes that DongJin apologizing to her thing was totally a lie, all in her imagination!
And yes! I feel like the show could have shown the Jun-WooJoo dynamic more, and made him seem more relevant, instead of relegating him to a noona love interest, which honestly, I totally felt what he was feeling, and it would be soooo icky awkward…. (which is why I also appreciated his arc this episode).
I can’t see how Woojoo can reverse this – it’s kind of crossed the rubicon, and there can be no HEA from here. I can’t see it happening. We’re just waiting for the inevitable … boom. In one scenario, okay, I can see DJ saying, oh it’s no big deal, I hate my mom anyway, and we can ignore her completely, but she’s always going to be looming over them, so unless she – umm – dies or something drastic like that happens, there can be no scope for reconciliation even, at this point.
That line, where she says, “We’re both stupid people” – I was silently yelling at the screen, saying, “HECK YES”!
I’m enjoying the show generally too (just that I like these eps less), and I will watch through till the end, whatever happens (I say I’ll be burned, like 2521 burned 😂, but it’s ah well okay).
Blue (@mayhemf)
March 30, 2023 at 5:55 AM
Your flaming optimism 😏
The mom arc is only going to get more ugly. She is broke and desperate. I kind of liked the parallel between and Hyesung, both women cannot be alone. One person serial married and another serial dated.
I am not saying they are similar, but I do like that the show didn’t make the mom a caricature. I liked that Min Young gave her a piece of her mind. It was long due. How will her arc end? Redemption? I doubt they are gonna kill her off.
She is greedy for money so I wonder how they will settle this.
pickleddragon
March 30, 2023 at 6:09 AM
How will she get money?
DJ will sell his business or his share in the business, give the money to her to silence her. He will ensure – somehow – the house is returned to the kids / or maybe she has no right to title anyway, so whatever sale she tries will be a dud. And then, since by now, he will have learnt the truth about the house and the owners, he will go off into the sunset in his camper van. Woojoo will be eternally depressed too, and will hang on to Jun’s friendship. DJ and WJ will cross paths one day in Seoul, and wonder, what if…. An open ending.
I’ll be happy if none of this comes true 😂
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I liked Minyoung giving it back to her. But idk if mom is just a terrible actress or her character is badly written. I was cringing so much while watching her scenes. Same with Hyesung. Show gave her a more rounded story, but still kind of irrational.
I see that the show is about dealing with different types of loneliness, and serial dating / marriage is how Hyesung and Heeja are trying to cope with their version. To that end, their characters work. But beyond that, I can’t get behind their motivations. (Maybe the writer can’t either, which is why they’re so flat as characters 😂)
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Okay I feel I’ve written so many essays on this. I won’t have anything to write in the recap. boo.
pickleddragon
March 31, 2023 at 10:03 AM
The Heeja arc, being the central pillar on which the whole story is resting, can’t quite be ignored, but I do wish the show had written this arc / character better, and the director should have instructed the actress better 😂
Absolutely agree about Hyesung, and maybe Woojoo and Jun will help her find her own space and identity (and that would actually be a great character arc / resolution for Jun-Hyesung).
The dream-apology sequence was interesting. I’m not sure I liked it much, because I feel it doesn’t help her character grow – it suggests she’s still stuck in the lying mould, when she needs to be honest with herself and everyone around her. Enough lying already. This is why, like Blue said earlier, Woojoo’s relationship with Jun is so precious, because he’s the only one who knows, and whom she’s actually told the real story herself, voluntarily. He’s her confidant and true friend, and with whom she’s most comfortable. She needs to realize that telling the truth is what will get her there, to that comfortable space. Because right now, gosh she’s not comfortable 😂
The karaoke scene was my most favourite scene in this week’s episodes – there was so much subtext in that panning of the camera – truths, lies, and everything in between. It was a loaded scene!