Beanie level: Rooftop room dweller

Aaaahhh how is it 2021 already?

I sincerely hope everyone is doing as well as possible, staying safe and looking after each other. It’s really been a year, hasn’t it?

Even aside from pandemic concerns, it was a year full of change and difficulties for me on the personal front, but I have taken joy in the friends I have here, and I hope I’ve been able to send back a little of that joy to your days, too, at least on the K-drama front, even if it’s not here on Dramabeans.

I’ve been keeping busy with the podcast – I (finally) learned how to edit audio earlier this year, and after a lot of aborted attempts at the whole process, finally FULLY produced an episode with the Forest of Secrets 2 special. I’m proud of me, I thought I’d never get there!! *pats self*

We had a lot of milestone moments in 2020 with Dramas Over Flowers, from producing some groundbreaking episodes, getting a proper website, doing weekly coverage on airing shows, and welcoming guest writers, to doing our first livestream, meeting fellow fans face-to-face (well, as face-to-face as pandemic living allows!), and joining a podcast network.

I have no idea what this year will bring – does anyone!! – but I hope and pray that you find peace and security in these challenging days of our lives, and also are able to appreciate the many daily blessings that remain to us despite our hardships.

And finally, let me leave you with our end-of-year opus, The Year-End Yak, which is THE LONGEST YAK (ever?), but I hope you’ll have as much fun listening to it as we did producing it. We’re particularly excited about our own end-of-year awards, the Goguma Awards, and there’s some good stuff inside, if I do say so myself! (I don’t want to spoil it for you, but honestly, Lee Joon-hyuk…)

Love and finger-hearts to you all 💙💙💙

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    And listen out for some beanie voices in there! We had some really wonderful listener notes, thank you 💙💙

    @cloggie @saner @leetennant @greenfields @rueffie (hope I tagged you right!)

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    PS @eazal, check out the Good Detective love, I agree that it hasn’t got the recognition it deserved 😢

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      Oh! I will check this the minute I arrive home!!!
      I can’t say enough times how good this drama is!!!

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      I finally got the time to listen to the podcast!!!
      Thanks so much for such a heartfelt defense of one of the best dramas this 2020 has given us.
      I liked what you said about liking it better than Forest of Secrets 2, mainly because the FoS2 experience was a collective one, and I totally concur. Discussing it in the fan wall and on every recap was really helpful to notice those little details that I skipped, and I loved all the discussion it brought on so many issues. But watching The Good Detective I was on my own: my doubts, my rage, my frustration was just mine, so I think that’s why I feel so close to it.
      You put on words my exact feelings about it!!!

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    Congrats on all those exciting achievements and milestones!❤️

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    I’m excited to listen!

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Excited to share this piece about drama endings with you all, a special guest piece courtesy of a very well-loved beanie. Please check it out and leave a comment for her if you have some time!

The Sense of an Ending: A Writer’s Take on Final Episodes

As a PS, we haven\’t said it officially, but we welcome thoughtful guest posts if you have something to say about a show/theme – especially if you\’re missing the outlet of the TOTM prompts. If you have something you really want to write about, feel free to drop us an email at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com outlining your idea (i.e. a pitch), and we\’ll come back to you. 💙

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Last call for Yak Tea! https://www.eventbrite.com/e/yak-tea-tickets-133491656137

Hope everyone is safe and warm and generally happy wherever you are – not just today, but may all your days be secure and kind, and spent in beloved company. 💙 💙 💙

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hello friends!

Just popping in to invite you to an impromptu online tea party (it\’s called Yak Tea!) Christmas day, especially if you are in need of some company and laughs. You can wear your jammies, but come armed with hot victuals!

We\’ll play some silly games, and Anisa\’s mom has really generously agreed to give us a special session of Ask Ammi, if you have any real-life need for counselling (questions can be submitted anonymously). RSVP here: https://dramasoverflowers.net/2020/12/20/join-us-in-the-year-end-yak-yak-tea/

Also, if you\’d like to share what got you through 2020, we\’d love to feature your audio clips on our showpiece episode of the year, the Year-End Yak. But don\’t worry, even if you don\’t take part, we\’ll still be bringing you the Goguma Awards (new categories this year, lol) and our synthesis of this…unusual year.

(PS, look out for our Spoiled Yak on Forest of Secrets 2 to drop on Christmas Eve!)

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    You guys always do these livestreams on days I work!

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      you’re at work on christmas day?? :(( what timezone are you in? we’ll be around for a little while even if you can’t make the whole programme!

      (this is just a casual hangout though, not a livestream! though that also means it won’t be recorded!)

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        I work in healthcare, so yes! 😂

        I live in the US (central time) so I don’t think I’ll be home in time! Have fun!

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@festerfaster live now with Supriya Nair on Kim Eun-sook dramas!

https://www.instagram.com/festerfaster/live/

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hello friends! oraenmanida!

Rewatching has been on my mind lately and I was wondering about everyone else’s habits. I have made a numbered list of investigative questions for K-drama Science:

1) Do you rewatch dramas? Why/why not?
2) Are there any shows you find yourself *constantly* rewatching?
3) Which shows?
4) This isn’t a question. I am just considering the logistics of stockpiling comfort-watches. That’s a thing right?
5) Anyone else done nanowrimo? How has it gone? Do you have a novel? (is it a secret identity/epistolary romance? Can someone please write one or rec me one I haven’t already read/watched? At a loose end since Dash and Lily reminded me how much I love that genre) ps I don’t think this is a question anymore oops

Here is some coffee humour wrapped in Foil, Arms and Hog (in case you haven’t discovered them yet):

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    1. Yes, because just like rereading a favorite book it’s like visiting a good friend.
    2. I used to rewatch Goblin, but nowadays it’s Because This Life is Our First. Se-hee is the best.
    3. Oops, I already answered this one. See #2.
    4. Yes, yes it is. Also, please publish this stockpile because comfort watches are much needed.
    5. Umm, no. Writing? Uhhh, sure I meant to do that. I do love a good epistolary novel. Have you read The Flatshare? Roommates who’ve never seen each other and communicate via sticky notes (oh hey, BTIOFL might have that too…). Umm, not fiction, and I’m sure you’ve probably read it, but 84 Charing Cross Road is a delight, both the book and the film.

    Coffee humor always welcome, and no I had not discovered Foil, Arms and Hog yet. Thanks!

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      Fancy seeing you here

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      Love this! Sorry for my laaaaate reply. RL has been keeping me away 😭

      I looked up The Flatshare and have it ready to read on my ereader now, very looking forward to it! And also put 84 Charing Cross Road on the list! I’m not as widely read as I think XD I have a tendency to stay in YA, but even then, within very specific niches. It’s a wonder I ever fell into kdrama, frankly! Thank you so much for the recommendations (and feel free to push more anytime – are you on goodreads? Did I already ask you that? My brain is a sieve right now.)

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        It is one of my greatest disappointments that 84 Charing Cross Rd is now home to a McDonalds instead of a lovely dusty old book shop.

        I am, in theory, on goodreads, but haven’t logged on in years. Do I know my username and password?

        I think all our brains are sieves right now. It’s fine.

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    Sayaaaaa!!!! I miss youuuu!!!!

    1. Yes, because sometimes you just really miss a drama in your life. Especially if you’re feeling down and need something to comfort you. Something familiar. There are a select few dramas I do this for, though, and some of them involve, um, a certain actor…
    2. YES.
    3. I think I’ve rewatched Because This Life is Our First… 6 times? Plus all the random scenes I’ve watched a ton. While it was airing and for months after I think I watched some scenes over 20 times. 🤭 Other ones I’ve rewatched in the past few years in part or full are Dal-ja’s Spring (again….. Certain actor….), My Ajusshi, and I’m Not a Robot. I’m planning an Into the Ring rewatch next month!

    Clearly there are certain things I go to for comfort, LOL.

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      I admit to watching the first episodes of SUFBB several times. Guyliner punk rockish LMK is perfect.

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        Now that you mention it, I think I’ve seen the first two episodes of SUFBB 5 times.

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        Yes.

        He should have had a whole drama of his own 😭

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      Mindyyy I miss you tooo 😭😭😭 RL dragged me away from the internet!

      Ohhh which actor could you possibly be talking about? Having a very hard time figuring this out! Hehehehe.

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    1) I used to, but not in these last few years. Apparently I was too easily distracted watching something I’ve watched before, my fingers just itched to constantly press the fast-forward button. I do re-read recaps and my comments on shows I loved though, just to get nostalgic on a good story telling when I was in a drama slump.

    2&3) Once upon a time, it used to be fun romcom like Reply 1997, Queen In-hyun’s Man, or Jealousy Incarnate.

    4) Even though I’m not doing that anymore, it makes perfect sense to stockpiled comfort-watches. Sometimes we just need a familiarity of a story that we know would end well. I think this is exactly why I gravitated towards C-drama these days. They have several popular stories that got adapted into several different format (from novel to manga, anime, drama, and audio drama). And while it’s not exactly a rewatching experience, I think it provided the same level of comfort.

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      Yesss, those are great answers and love your reasons. Thank you for sharing!

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    1: I rewatch a few favorite shows, usually when I’m showing them to a friend who hasn’t seen them. But I OFTEN re-watch favorite parts of certain episodes, whether or not the rest of the show is worth a rewatch. I have a folder in my PC of just favorite episodes, mostly with the time where the good stuff starts as the tail-end of the file name.

    2: No. Just bits of them.

    3: Past total rewatches (in no special order)
    You From Another Star
    Queen In-hyun’s Man
    Masters Sun
    School 2015
    Bring It On Ghost
    Girl K
    Splash Splash Love (an easy rewatch because it’s so short)
    Signal
    I’m Not a Robot
    Queen’s Classroom
    Voice (season 1 only!!!!!!!!!!!)
    Mystery Queen (season 1)
    Faith

    Partial episodes (most favorite and/or most-recent rewatches first):
    Mother ep 14 – the kid’s testimony at the trial starting 44 min
    Pegasus Market ep 1 – the singing/dancing about a hour in
    Girl’s Generation ep 1 – the ABBA bit at the start
    Strong Woman Do Bong-soon – end of ep 8 & start of 9
    Big ep 3 – 24 min 25 sec – phone getting fixed thru Suzy’s trip from LA
    My Fellow Citizens ep 2 – 7 min (U-turn) & ep 3 25 min (fight where FL kicks a**)
    Amnesia of the Alhambra ep 1 – Hyun Bin marching back & forth trying to start the game
    Girl K ep 2 – training montage near the start
    Miss Korea ep 20 – 48 min 35 sec – at the gas station
    Surplus Princess ep 1, 2 & especially 10 – arrivals & anything with Terminator music.
    While You Were Sleeping ep 20 2 min – Suzy’s scarf handover
    Faith – the ML’s visit to “heaven” in ep 1 and the FL’s visit in the finale
    Mask ep 1 – deer in headlights & cliffhanger at the start

    4: Yes

    5: No

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    1. Yes, I rewatched dramas all the times. There are certain shows that make me want to watch over and over again. A lot of those shows are what people would call sad or depressing (which they are), but I find them strangely comforting. Sometimes I just put them on in the background while I do something else.
    2. Yes. There are shows I routinely rewatch every year.
    3. A few ones on the top of my head:
    – Life is Beautiful is currently holding the record for most rewatched. I’m pretty sure I have rewatched all 63 episodes at least 6 times ever since I discovered it 7 years ago.
    – Another OHY, Forest of Secret 1 and My Mister each has 4 rewatches under its name.
    – Seven Day Queen and Marriage not Dating each has 3 rewatches. Oh, how I wish Yeon Woo Jin would appear in a good drama which is on par with his talent like these two?!? All of his recent dramas sucked.
    5. I’ve never done nanowrimo, but shout out to Dash and Lily! It was a cute show.

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      Wow, that’s a truly impressive schedule, and I love your choices! Do you have any new dramas that have found their way into your rewatch rotation? Plus, I always find depressing things are easier on the emotions in a rewatch.

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    1. Yes, if the drama was either excellent (My Ahjussi), an enthralling escape for me (Hotel del Luna) or just plain silly fun (Mary Stayed Out All Night, yes, I know I’m strange).
    2. Yes. Mary Stayed Out All Night and parts of Healer and Chicago Typewriter.
    3. Mary Stayed Out All Night, Healer and Chicago Typewriter (I don’t often rewatch the entire series because I fast forward the characters that annoy me).
    5. Not Start Up.

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    I enjoy Foil, Arms and Hogg😄

    1. I do. Probably for the same reason I re-read books I enjoy – because I enjoyed them 😂 plus you often see different things on rewatches. Also if I’m showing them to someone else.

    2. Yes

    3. The Greatest Love (I have lost count of how many times I’ve seen this)
    Oh My Venus (also this)
    My Girlfriend is a Gumiho (I have watched this twice this year alone)
    ….many others. Basically if I liked it the first time I’m going to rewatch at very least bits of it.
    4. Totally a thing! But then I find I don’t actually want to watch any of them because I’m too mopey to make up my mind.
    5. I have done it in this past but not this year because I have three children under the age of six and a job and kdramas to watch 😅 I officially finished once. There was much (much) padding of a very silly fairy tale. I was pleased with myself though. I cannot think of any romances to recommend.

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      5. Awww!! But still, dramas wait and children grow! The good thing about a show you’ve watched already is that that story has made its way inside you, it’s not like one of those you keep meaning to get to, so you have that constant niggling feeling of missing out on something. I hope you get the time to rewatch to your heart’s content again, and thank you for sharing!

      PS Yes a FA&H fan! If you haven’t already, you should also check out Michael Spicer (MrMichaelSpicer) who is GREAT.

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    1. Yes. For so many reasons, rewatching a drama is the best part of watching dramas. Revisiting an old favorite is like getting a nice warm hug from a good friend. It’s so comforting. There’s also the fun of poking holes in a not-so-great drama as well.

    2 & 3. Yes, there are several Healer, Coffee Prince, Girl Who Sees Smells, Goong, there’s a several more but theses are a few that pop-up to mind.

    4. Comfort watches are what I’m here for. I watch new dramas just to supplement my running list of comfort watches.

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    1. Yes. Constantly. A show you love will remain good no matter how many times you see it, and you might see it differently every time.
    2. Oh God, yes. Gokusen. Hana Kimi. Buzzer Beat. Thirty but Seventeen. Shining Inheritance. Age of Youth 2. I Hear Your Voice.

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      Yes!!

      IHYV is also one of mine (I mean, I’ve rewatched it before – these days, there isn’t even much time for normal watching 😭)

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    1) Do you rewatch dramas? Why/why not?
    I used to. I rewatched HEALER like 3 times in a row after it aired to fight withdrawal (that didn’t work). Now I don’t have enough time, or am so disappointed/feeling meh by the time they end that I don’t care to watch them again.
    2) Are there any shows you find yourself *constantly* rewatching?
    Nope, mainly scenes here and there. Like 15 minutes of Episode 21 of JUMONG. I will constantly listen to OSTs though!
    3) Which shows?
    I never pass on a chance to recommend MISAENG to a family member and end up rewatching with them.
    4) This isn’t a question. I am just considering the logistics of stockpiling comfort-watches. That’s a thing right?
    I haven’t tried it, but a ready-made list of comfort watches sounds wonderful!

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      Thank you for sharing!!

      I did exactly the same with Healer. I think it’s my most rewatched show 3x while airing (raw, viki subs, DF subs…considered watching it again with NF subs but that is very unappealing! Then again, I rely on them way less now than I did then, so it might not be the worst!)

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Live podcast with Paroma and Yunah!!

https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/live/

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Dramas Over Flowers updates!

Now we’re covering dramas weekly on the website, it’s getting hard to keep track of just how much stuff is going up. This week, I abandoned Record of Youth (sorry, show, but you were becoming a chore), but 18 Again is still absolutely killing me with its perfection. KILLING ME.

Stuff we wrote:

18 Again: Episodes 9-10 Review with me, @Saner and Anisa (@laica).

– Anisa just wrote Do Do Sol Sol La La Sol: Episodes 1-4 Review.

– We are excited to welcome our first solo guest-post from @JustMe: Drama Addict Diary: More Than Friends, Episodes 1-4 Overview.

Stuff we recorded:

We’ve dropped two new podcast episodes (sorry, we’re behind but we’re catching up!), so don’t miss them! I particularly recommend the latest What’s Up in Dramaland? where Anisa and Paroma talk about female-led variety (which is incredibly lucid despite the heightened hilarity born of a too-late night and a too-early morning!)

There’s also a new Little Yak on The Tale of the Nine-tailed, which was born of an Instagram Live with our pal and Seoulbeats writer, Rimi (@greenfields)

Whew, okay, that’s everything, I think.

I don’t even know if you guys are interested in my random updates. Should I stop, or carry on?

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I am loving 18 Again so, so much. Back this week with @Saner on a review of 7-8, here: 18 Again: Episodes 7-8 Review

I\’m keeping a running tally of how many screencaps I can stuff into these, like an overflowing emotion sandwich. Such a glutton for these eps which bring squishy joy together with the crunch of regret, wrapped around the burger of all the things we wish we\’d done differently 😭

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    Thank you so much for this beautiful review. You articulated my exact thoughts as I was watching these episodes. The unfolding of Dae-young’s story, his unseen sacrifices for his family and realization he turned into a version of his father he never wanted to be, is so impeccably done. I am so glad him and his father had the chance to forgive each other. The basketball court scene left me a blubbering mess.

    You picked up on all the little moments I loved in these episodes: the conversation between Da-jung and her mom, Dae-young and Ja-sung. UGH. This show is such a gem!!

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      I agreeeee, and so weirdly underrated!! 😭😭😭😭

      Thank you for sharing your thoughts, made it even more ❤️❤️❤️

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A Long Yak after a long time! (and someone has a beautiful new mic that is AMAZING!)

Dramas:
Forest of Secrets 2
Flower of Evil
Good Detective
It’s Okay Not to be Okay

plus:
Paroma revisits 2016’s Oh My Venus, while Anisa shares thoughts after watching 2012 Pakistani drama, Zindagi Gulzar Hai

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We tried to love Record of Youth this week, but I guess we didn\’t. Oops? BUT I TRIED OKAY

Here it is:
Record of Youth: Episodes 11-12 Review

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    I thought I was the only one who watched it this week! I did like the seemingly throw away scene with Grandpa and dad in the van when they went to the senior modeling center. It looks like they were taking the first steps to healing. Then the whole awkward situation at the center in front of the trainer. I didn’t get the conversation except to know that the son was back to disrespectful conversation in front of his dad in front of the trainer. Was it really translated, “now she will think our family is a hot mess!?” Something like that! I 😂 at that line!

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      I was disgruntled enough by then that I didn’t even pay as much attention XD But it most likely wasn’t literally ‘hot mess’, ha. I have reached the point where I resent having to write about the show, which makes watching it a chore – now there’s a feeling I didn’t think I’d have again in the post-recapper life 😂

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Okay, it\’s live!

18 Again: Episodes 1-6 Review, feat @Saner and her brilliant observations. Come and see!

Do we talk about Da-jung too much? NEVER TOO MUCH

more like Da-JJANG if you ask me

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Just found out that Horrible Subs, one of the few remaining anime fansubbers, have closed down 😭

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    For better or worse, the industry is changing.

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      They said that covid drove them to it, pretty much. I hope once things are better, they’ll be able to get back on their feet 🙁

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        I didn’t know it was because of COVID. I thought it was because of the KOCOWA approach the anime studios were taking, albeit it this was is YouTube and free.

        https://variety.com/2020/streaming/asia/japan-animation-unified-youtube-anime-initiative-1234728555/

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          Or maybe more like some of the Chinese Drama streaming on YouTube.

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          that’s really interesting, thanks for the link! I haven’t kept up with anime much since I got into kdrama, but there were a couple of things I was staying up to date with. I think part of the fansubbers’ function is a lot like drama fansubbers – they provide something that isn’t otherwise available, or more quickly than something is officially licensed and translated. I’ve seen other groups shut down over the years (manga scanlation as well as anime fansubs) for legal reasons, but this seems somewhat different for *not* being that.

          I wouldn’t be averse to the kocowa-style youtube channel if it had good content!

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HI WE ARE EARLY THIS WEEK

by which I mean we are not a week late* 😅

Record of Youth: Episodes 9-10 Review, in which:
– Hye-joon is KING OF THE WORLD
– Hyung is dethroned
– Hae-hyo stops being a paper cutout
& Hae-hyo\’s mom meets her match

Plus: I do my level best to stuff every single screencap ever into one review bc economy and restraint is for smart people.

and I am not smart people 😂

(*real reason is that FT weekday job means I tend not to catch up to the week in drama until the weekend. I tried harder this week, but it\’s probably not sustainable because apparently the older you get, the more your body hates you if you don\’t let it sleep 😭)

Bonus: look out for an 18 Again review (1-6) coming hopefully tomorrow and I\’m so excited about who I\’m doing it with! KEEP PEELETHED YOUR EYE BOLLS.

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Whoops, this is a little late but hopefully still enjoyable!

Record of Youth: Episodes 7-8 Review

We\’ve finally sorta (haphazardly) committed to the show, so this week\’s should definitely be more timely. Though I\’ve already watched ep9 and dread the Angst Train coming in on Platform 10.

Wake me up when October ends 😂

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Dang I just (re)read this review after sleeping on it and IT IS GOOD (am I allowed to say that haha)

Forest of Secrets 15-16 Finale Review

hold me 😭😭😭😭

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Feel more feels.

YOU ARE WELCOME.

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Just finishing up our FoS finale review after squeezing @chickachunga and @leetennant dry! Keep your eyes peeled for it to drop in an hour or so!

what a ride 😭

I am not okay

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

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Forest of Secrets: Episodes 13-14 Review is LIVE

also my eyeballs have shrivelled up into raisins

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    I watched TV and wrote all weekend and am now thinking this wasn’t my wisest decision.

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      It was the perfect decision. Never believe anything else 😂😂😂😂

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    I am 3/4 way reading through the review and… cronyism… I have learned a new word today. thanks!
    I love love love this review!!! (and the previous ones too)

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      Thank you!! Finale one going up in an hour or so!!

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