Ahahaha I had the exact same initial thought! lol
Likely just a deliberate tease considering the nature of the show, and thus a red herring but you also never know hehe.
Although him placing down the trowel on the other hand is deliberate juxtoposition to how the three women did NOT place down the items in their hands, thus leading to the police station confusion; Uri Chef-nim has slightly more awareness of his actions 😂
Oh yesss. Gosh there were so many good moments this episode tbh, I was struggling to pick which to share! hahahaha The brilliant use of pauses after those moments, and the directing and music just adds to the whole thing as well~
Generally speaking, a pretty normal expectation I’d say. Nobody expects anyone to take their fridge. If it is in fact their fridge…
Link: Episode 2
I was very apprehensive going into this show (if you know, you know), but like… ya know… I don’t hate it. (le gasp)
I love the Fridge, I love how much drama it causes. When it’s supposed to be empty, it’s full; when it’s supposed to be full, it’s empty. What a drama queen. What a plot device. It’s so funny.
I like the colours and how they contribute to the weird small town/ small district vibe with their warmth even though it’s the middle of winter. (fig 3+4, everyone standing in complimentary colours and threes~)
It’s not, say, idk, Beyond Evil small town creepy- which was sad and melancholic, much more noir. This one is more a small town full of nosy locals, bright curiosities, and slightly too much murder than is normal. Just slightly though.
Everything is off kilter but in a way that is so much more my style of weird.
So, I’m so far enjoying it for what it is.
How long that will last, I don’t know.
We might jinx ourselves. It’s VERY early days yet lmao.
(fig 5. I’m such a sUCKER for teal and orange colour grading lOOKIT AT IT)
I thought…you know, I could stand to see a drama where the central character is a mysterious refrigerator. Reminded me of Dirk Gently’s refrigerator. Well, may be some day, but this isn’t it.
Love this little insight into people’s lives through the Liminal Space that is the Refrigerator- I could riff off that in multiple artistic mediums for a while- but also love it as an introduction to our show and where it lead to because Bodies in Refrigerators fills a very weird and very specific murder mystery niche of mine.
And to kick start an entire plot around that? Well… You could do worse… you could do worse. 😂😂😂 Link: Episode 1
Reposting my MLN thoughts here for the sake of having it on my wall and for ease of bookmarking.
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My Liberation Notes Final Essay/Review:
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ah, screw it…
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I have struggled and continue to struggle personally with some of the concepts brought up in this show; the feeling of being stuck in a deep mental pit and unable to get out, the fact that getting out is an excruciatingly slow process with many ups and downs and backtracks that make it feel like any forward or upward progression is non-existent. I understand that theme and that feeling very, very well.
But only a few times throughout the show, and increasingly less and less as it went on, did the show\’s attempt at this subject matter actually resonate with me, or make me genuinely feel something.
I did not feel comforted or seen or emotionally connected to the show. I did not enjoy it as any exploration of anything otherwise. I did not get anything out of it. I did not truly relate to the characters I on paper have much in common with.
I felt alienated, unnerved, disconcerted even, consistently for 16 episodes. I found the characters immensely inaccessible. And frequently, I wondered what this show was actually about or trying to say because it too often seemed to be saying nothing at all, despite all attempts at otherwise.
Because you see, those pieces that did or could have resonated with me, and those lines that every so often were said that at very least were almost true, were just that; pieces. Moments. Slices. Out of context and out of place, floating ideas, individual and independent impressions.
They were not pieces in a collective and cohesive whole, woven together to form an intricate narrative or induce an emotional catharsis in resolution. In fact, they had no resolution because they were not a whole.
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The final idea that liberation is an ongoing process, that seeking and finding happiness or a contentment to carry on, is made of tiny, miniscule attempts every day- sir, I cannot express to you how much I understand this concept, I KNOW this idea very deeply in my soul- though I would not describe it in those words, thus probably altering or expanding their meaning- but nonetheless I KNOW this idea. The statement in and of itself is not bad either.
But I did not feel a… a release when this idea was announced in the final episode.
For 16 episodes I was constantly asking myself “what is happening, and why? Where is it going?.”
But when we got to the end, I did not feel that this statement had actually ANSWERED that.
Or rather, I didn’t feel that this conclusionary statement was actually a satisfying result of everything that had gone before.
There was no \”ah yes so THAT\’S what this was all about\”. Instead, I felt a contempt for how that result was played out, and, more importantly, for how we got there.
I don’t think this show truly justified that being its final statement, in its execution and in how it told any of its story.
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A fantastic example of this and why it bothers me so much, is Changhee’s narrative “conclusion.”
Changhee starts monologuing (out of nowhere and with no prior contextual set up) about a movie he’s watched that he somehow relates to or finds a particular sense of profoundness in.
The only reason this monologue is in here is to set up Hyeon Ah’s ex’s final moments and death, wherein Changhee once again plays the Last Post Angel for the Nearly Departed.
Changhee’s connection to the dead, this… ability as it were, to show up at the exact right moment to be there for someone at the end of their life, is introduced to us for the first time, in episode 14, after his mother’s death, where he tells us that this actually happened with his grandmother too. In Episode 16, we also learn that it happened with his grandfather as well, along with now his Hyung.
The show then ends his arc by him mistaking lecture rooms, ending up in an introductory course for funeral directors and deciding to stay, content that this is finally “where he is supposed to be”.
– I kid you not, I called that. As soon as he said “why does this keep happening”, I went “maybe you should go into funeral services then.” And then the show actually did … that.
My issue with this is- why is that a thing that he has to tell us HIMSELF, in EPISODE 14, and tacked onto the end of the show, the last four episodes even?
If we want to learn that that is a quality he has, and you want to make it INTO something, to juxtapose it against him always ending up magnetically attached to convenience stores or going bankrupt, or even to his sisters’ conversations about death, why isn\’t that WOVEN into the story throughout the whole show? And instead of us just being told, show it instead so that we put the pieces together ourselves and therefore the payoff is actually satisfying and makes sense, instead of it just being a cluster of disjointed events and dialogues.
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Another such example is, Why does the Liberation Club only have like 4 scenes in 16 hrs?
Why did we not see them for what felt like half the show, and then jump forward two years, and then get preached the supposed final message of the show? Why isn\’t that slowly explored and integrated better into everything else. Or, why wasn’t the club used as a background point to structure the whole show off? To draw more parallels between the familial relationships that had the most screen time and explore their personal journeys?
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Or yet another example:
The dialogue is frequently just a string of expositionary and often nonsensical monologues and voice overs.
Instead of exploring the ideas espoused in these monologues within the context of the show- characters just say stuff, and often- although not always- at random. And if *when* they say it is not random, then the thread that parses out within the dialogue itself, the *what* is random; starting off with a decent point perhaps, a point I would agree with, only to contradict itself twice within the next few sentences, and then unravelling to an illogical conclusion that I genuinely don’t know how was reached by where we started from, and leaving me with an unpleasant taste of half truth in my mouth.
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And I feel like this really sums up the show in its entirety, and the incompleteness I talked about at the beginning.
The characters are just pieces floating through a series of ambiguous philosophical ideas, and then they themselves are only made up of vague thought pieces as well.
The story threads are not tied to each other or to the characters.
Nobody and nothing is part of a whole, or connected in a way that both makes sense and is satisfying narratively.
The worldview behind this show is scattered, inconsistent, and so the product itself is incohesive.
The effect that this has is that everything feels faux deep, wannabe deep, without actually saying anything at all.
This show thinks it is justified in its story, however, in what it says and how it says it, in its form. But for me… it has no true form. It is just a vague collection of philosophical musings, that do not in fact make up a story just by stringing them all together.
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Ah- maybe this isn\’t a story. Maybe this is just an arbitrary collection of thoughts and feelings and philosophies. Maybe that is what it is supposed to be, and thus maybe it is just that I am unsympathetic to this approach to media.
But you see. I am.
I am very unsympathetic to this quite clearly intentional approach to the medium. That’s the problem.
Because I want genuine stories, intricately and heartfeltly crafted to engage in ideas and emotions through that wonderful and powerful and ancient tradition and medium of storytelling. Where all the pieces are properly CONNECTED and work together, and you can see the weave and the pattern, and the reasoning behind the pattern.
I don\’t want just a list of contradictory thoughts and feelings, oblique, ersatz and tumblr-esque attempts at depth and character writing.
I don’t want nothings and nobodies, and no discernible pattern.
Anyone, and I\’m not joking about this, anyone can make a collection of vague philosophical musings.
That is not storytelling. That is not craft.
You haven’t crafted anything!
You just went “oh look dissociative Ghibli-but-oh-so-definitely-not-Ghibli aesthetics (that WEREN’T my doing because I’m not the director) slapped on post-modernist enlightenment theatre student’s footnotes! Behold! A Play!”
What am I, Diogenes? (Well… actually…)
Kill me now.
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*ANNNNNND now I shall run away before I get lynched BYE*
Word Count: 1446 gasp so smol for a sicarius essaius lel
Thanks. I always feel slightly crazy when I get annoyed or bored by a drama that is loved by many. I write some posts trying to explain the reasons for it and sometimes a few people even agree but it can feel like maybe it would be easier if I wasn’t so picky. Posts like yours make me remember I’m not so picky, it’s just that a lot of average dramas become popular for many reasons that have nothing to do with their real quality.
Posting my mini Review here also, just in case the relevant people don\’t get the other tag (@gadis and @midnight mainly):
Disclaimer: I am basically allergic to Time Travel as a concept in its entirety, so from that point of view this show was not made for me at all, and I probably shouldn\’t have watched it because of that…
There are some plot points (holes) that can be explained away via theories, and there are some plot points (holes) that definitely cannot be. And it\’s all very well to have a block universe theory but to me that just sounds like a cop out for the plot holes, and also kind of weirdly makes the entire show pointless in some ways… But basically, I don\’t really have much more to say on the plot because, whilst I COULD say a lot, I just kind of think Time Travel is dumb… so… moving on.
I had fun for the first 5, 5 and a half episodes, for what it was; I thought the way the action was written and shot was well done and slick.
Character wise- I enjoyed Seo Kang Joon immensely and I like Saeha, but I didn\’t find his arc to be very satisfying or well written overall. I wasn\’t really moved, or into his motivations and what development there was.
Thematically I also didn\’t really care of anything this was trying to say- I\’m not opposed to some of its themes, but I didn\’t find its attempt at them to be very interesting or compelling; they\’ve been done before and better, so they didn\’t grab me here.
Oh! Hahaha. /My/ green light. Oh dear haha- I wouldn’t recc it but if you like TT it might be alright… please do let me know what you think haha.
I think I miraculously avoided most major spoilers in this.
Hahahaha! Ok I’ll be honest. I had watched a few intense thrillers back to back and felt too drained to start Grid. I was lazily watching Start Up and waiting to see what you might say.
Now I have started Youth of May, and I don’t know if I have the head space to continue melodrama or the thrill will call me back!
Oh that’s totally fair enough to be honest- I know the feeling well.
For what it’s worth I didn’t really find Grid that heavy or intense- and it does move pretty quickly if you binge it.
Please no! I watched it while it aired each week and I guess part of that was what kept the suspense going, but it would be even more disappointing if you were to binge watch! Please don’t spend your time on this drama by depending on the writer’s past work or the actors and use it on worthwhile dramas
Weirdly, I feel like I should’ve or could’ve been way more annoyed and frustrated at this drama than I was. I reached a resigned consensus on it pretty quickly when I finished the final episode today. I also always expected it to not make sense given the whole… time travel thing lmao. Maybe wasn’t expecting it to make THAT much no sense but… ya know! hahaha
I love this genre and I love this writer and if you ask me wtf happened in this show I couldn’t tell you. I *think* I know what they were saying but – oh look, Dark continues to have a lot to answer for.
It definitely made me angry when I watched it every week. Every week would end up woth more questions and a cliff hanger. I guess it will more bearable when binge watched.
Oh, it won’t make you angry. Just confused. Though it’s a good, intriguing kind of confusing for me (I’m clearly one of the weird ones when it comes to this drama).
Haha…
To be honest, I read this fully prepared to defend the drama or argue my point. And then I found out that I couldn’t really argue against… indifference(??). I fully understand it, though, since time travel seemed to be really not your genre. (While I found out that I like it quite a bit even in k-drama format)
Let’s hope for another “weird” dramas in the future where we can compare our thoughts and opinions more enthusiastically. 😆😆
Just think of it as bubble universes, with two new timelines branching off from and looping back around to the parent universe. Like Dark.
So in one we have the Ghost’s world that she’s trying to ensure comes about (the female line) and in the other we have the other timeline that the other time traveller is trying to bring about (the male line). Like Dark.
And these changes are affected by travelling back to the original parent universe. Like Dark.
What therefore seem like Bootstrap paradoxes are due to the interactions of the three universes
I think the biggest flaw of the show was that Lee Soo-yeon didn’t give the story the emotional heft it needed. Dark was devastating. Emotionally devastating. I can’t say that about Grid. Even Sae-byeok’s sudden decision to sleep with her ex and have his child wasn’t supported by her emotional growth during the show. I would have found it more believable if she announced she was pregnant to Sae-ha instead.
No, I can understand that, that doesn’t make me think it’s less dumb though… 😛 😛
100% agree about the emotional heft though.
When she said she barely knew Saeha in that scene to Eojin, as if she like had no reason to care … I was like… girl~
And the fact that she literally says 10 seconds before the “kiss” that she wants to nothing to do with him?
(post script: I haven’t seen Dark. I have read your review on Dark though. Something tells me I wouldn’t love it as much as you 😛 )
I have to agree with this despite liking the show itself. Grid could use more emotional anchor to make viewers more invested in the crazy timelines change. The show came off as too cerebral to be moving, almost as if it was a long illustration for time-travel theories. (Though a part of my nerdy self is actually giddy because of it. Haha…)
At the end I was scratching my head as to why he had to die for the timeline and then I realised – it was because her need for comfort after his loss was what led her to sleep with her ex and have her daughter. But that relies on us believing firstly that his death devastated her and also that she had some residual feelings and/or sexual tension wth her ex. I saw neither of those things. If anything, I thought she had nothing but contempt for her ex.
You also have to wonder at why THAT apparently was her plan for Saebyeok to have a child? Like… really? That’s the only plan you have? Good grief. (Well no, it’s probably not the only plan you have if the ending is anything to go by but WHY was it the plan WE had to watch… 👀.
And then we’re back to LT’s original comment lel)
I only now checked the writer. Now the beanies’ disappointment is much more understandable. I didn’t dislike FoS but I didn’t think it a masterpiece like most beanies do. The only reason I was curious about Grid was because of TT.
Yes the writer is also why the procedural components were better written than the scifi ones and why she’s more comfortable with professional rather than personal relationships.
You really have a high tolerance for sitting through dramas that you do not enjoy, dislike or lose interest midway and then continue to put a writeup(short/long/whatever) on it😂😂😂
*snorts* and at great detriment to my sanity and blood pressure, I know.
I think this is a compliment but something tells me it shouldn’t be. Honest, I’m way better at dropping than I used to be, if you can believe that. 😂
It tells the story of a funny real-life employees at Gaus Electronics, conveying sympathy and laughter at the same time, containing the sorrows of office workers. pic.twitter.com/mKC53Ty57P
— Atty Woo brain rot 🐳 (@kdramatreats) May 16, 2022
Finally!!! Right here celebrating with you all!
I love OTVOI so if its anything like it, I will enjoy his first drama as lead.
Well, i enjoy seeing him onscreen regardless… but still!
Hey, hey HEY, nO SLANDERING MINT CHIP ICE CREAM IN THIS HOUSE, BOY. Even if it is just with your delightfully expressive eyebrows.
We do not tolerate The Mint Chip Heresy in Melonia; it’s a crime punishable by perpetual tickling, executed by the illustrious Lee Yeon himself.
Oh Han Byeol is clearly the more civilised of the duo, here (wait we already knew that).
Well, at least we know she won’t have to share it! 😂 Sounds like a perfect match to me! Reminds me of my son and daughter who have the exact opposite tastes in every food imaginable. I used to buy canned mixed fruit for them—you know the peaches and pears and that one lone 1/2 Maraschino cherry in syrup? My daughter would only eat the peaches in a DB my son the pears and then they’d switch bowls do the other to finish! It was adorable.
*smh at people who think it tastes like toothpaste* *aiyooo such unrefined taste buds* *you know spear mint and peppermint are two different kinds of mint right?* *Like they’re a different plant just if the same genus?* *Also were you here for 9Tails? You should’ve been here for 9T* *Okay I’ll shut up now* *😂😂😂*
Oh I was here for Nine-Tailed alright. Every time they kept mentioning how great mint chocolate chip was, I had the same face as Tae-sung in these photos 😂.
Perhaps one of the most shocking discoveries of my adult life, as I came to know more people and more opinions, is finding out the strong hatred many people have for mint chocolate chip ice cream. Personally I love it 💚 of course not everyone will, but people sure are passionate about it when they don’t 😅
🙋🏼♀️ Yep, passionate hatred for all things mint 🤢 ugh. Since I also hate frozen pieces of chocolate in anything, Mint Chocolate Chip is truly horrifying 😱
Tae Sung and I will enjoy Salted Caramel Gelato together over in the corner, thanks 👍🏼
Alexa please play the Broken Record: Lee Soo Hyuk is Utterly Wasted and has Criminal Screen Time in this Show, and is Completely Overdue a Lead Role -_-
Isn’t that just cos he’s been hella typecast though? Like we’ve never SEEN him in anything else? (Not including White Christmas).
Besides, a lead doesn’t have to be a typical warm hero type :p
Hmmm curious. Can you expand a bit more on what you mean by “passion to make me care”?
Like you’ve never cared about any of his characters, ever before? Or you can’t care about him as an actor because of that “cold” look?
Or can you care about him when he’s not a hero lead? Which is what I thought you meant from the original comment.
I have never liked any of his characters. Liked, as in him making me care about the character’s feelings and wishes and goals and intents. To me, he lacks passion, of any kind. Leaves me completely cold and uninterested. So I think if he becomes a male lead I will have no interest in watching and following his story. I might be proven wrong. But I probably won’t try watching.
Hmmm ok! Fair enough! Thanks for sharing!
I can’t wholly relate, although I think I know where you’re coming from; as I mentioned below, I have definitely cared about his chars before, even in Tomorrow. Actually he’s kind of the only character I care about consistently in Tomorrow despite what I think of the writing of said character, lol.
I also think he has been consistently overly typecast in a certain style of role (cold, aloof, villainous, badass but sexy etc).
Which is kind of a shame because I think whilst he’s no Ziggy when it comes to acting (few are), I still think he’s capable of more, and for me he always has a unique screen presence.
I also wonder, how much of that feeling could be contributed to by poor or weak writing. Not to try and convince you to like him if he doesn’t work for you, but because I know so many of them have *also* been weak in that regard.
Would definitely recommend White Christmas though- and not just for him haha.
I have seen bits of White Christmas some years ago but I wasn’t in a mental state to be able to enjoy that type of show. This past few years though I have been preferring much darker shows. So I might watch it some time.
We\’re back! Now, where were we with that drama catch up list…
Our Blues- DROPPED Episode 5
Shooting Stars – Caught Up, as of last night
Showtime- 4, 5, 6
Love All Play- 6
Tomorrow- 11 + 12
My Liberation Notes- 9 + 10
Grid- 9, 10
Non Airing Drama- Half way
Red Heart- To Start, 1 + 2
Monstrous- To Start?
Shopping List- To Start?
I dropped Our Blues today. I watched half of episode 9 and… I’m so going to pretend I only watched the first three episodes. You did well by stopping at 5.
Hi tabong! I decided to continue our blues 5&6 n i thought it was pretty well done. Now i’m stuck again as 7&8 looked like a tough watch fr the comments & some clips. I just wanted to say that despite the storyline, the cast does live up to their name and there’s some solid acting here even fr the two youngsters. I’m gonna let this one sit in the to continue list for a bit more before deciding to let go or not..
Hi, Chuna ^^
Episodes 7 and 8 made me like episodes 5 and 6 a little more. But I still think I should´ve stopped at episode 3.
If you want great acting then you should watch episodes 7 and 8. All the actors are doing a great job, so good that I don´t care about the acting I´m just seeing the characters. Maybe that´s why I dislike them so much, they´re too real (and annoying). I feel like I want to get the hell out of Jeju and never see those people again. I hope you enjoy it, tho.
I feel like beanies are divided 50-50 about the show, so I´m curious which 50 you´ll be. Hehe
I have this horrible fascination with k-drama train wrecks, so I’ll stick with Our Blues until the end. Actually, after watching E10, I feel like there might be more hope emerging for the stories on that crazy island. Maybe its just my wishful thinking.
*Sic wondering what the Korean Strawberry production and industry looks like since Strawberries are a summer fruit and this is set in winter and Korea is not exactly California… Greenhouses but they’re still gonna be off season*
*Sic wondering why anyone in the middle of winter would nonetheless turn down any strawberries, again since they’re a summer fruit, and bitch do you know how much I’d kill for that many strawberries in the middle of winter????*
*Sic looking at them struggling when it would not be at all hard for herself to devour that entire bowl without thinking… *: … weak
Well now I’M having an existential crisis… may I ask where you’re from?
That might help me propose and answer.
Strawberries only fruit here from Dec-Feb, which is our summer. They’ll fruit a bit longer if it’s a bit warmer, and depending on your latitude, but I primarily associate them as a seasonal fruit and with my Christmas because of this.
They are available in the winter here but they’re expensive and imported, and generally not as juicy or ripe.
But this is very particular to where I live – I live in NZ; We have a temperate oceanic climate with noticible season shifts, lots of micro climates, and the south is very dry and cold in comparison (where I’m from), so NZ grows a lot of its own produce during the relevant seasons and imports in the off seasons.
Unlike California for example, which can produce seasonal fruit all year round.
Well, to me they’re a summer fruit too, but at the same time in stores they sell them in season from around February to May (when we’re lucky ><)…yet the few I have in my garden grow in summer too…so maybe it's just about different varieties? No clue really xD
Also I was recently watching something (wish I remembered what..) where a person made a comment about strawberry season being almost over, and that adds to my confusion lol
Most likely just import them during your Winter is my guess, as I mentioned to wapz above, as ours are???
But these in the show are from a farmer he knows, suggesting locally grown which threw me off 😅. Hence my wondering about the Korean industry and if they have a big off season industry by growing them domestically in greenhouses. I don’t know enough about the commercial industry tbh- my hyung grows them and they fruit prolifically every summer! Haha
It could be a variety thing but most I know of have a Spring or Summer starting season at least 🤔
Something for me to research and go down a rabbit hole for! (But not tonight pfft)
We do import some, yeah (from Spain mainly, so still EU), but I mostly buy ones grown here (in Italy)…a mystery ahah!
Please share your findings later too! 😁
Hmmmm I figured as much.
I wonder if they just speed up the process so they can get them to fruit just that much earlier, that would align with March/April being peak which just 2-3 months before natural peak.
Maybe that’s easier for them than full winter production.
This post has just turned into Sic’s farming and gardening stream of consciousness musings lmfao…
I presume you know this specifically for a reason????
Well, if my husband can grow tangerines in the winter in my basement, S. Korea can probably manage strawberries. But this reminds me of when I used to live in Norcal and you could just stop by the side of the road in June and have the sweetest strawberries of your life. My son (who was 2 at tel he time) ate his weight in strawberries from Sacramento to San Fransisco once and paid for it with the worst hives I’ve ever seen! So word to the wise: strawberries are histiminergic (enhances the release of histamine) and can cause hives whether or not you’re allergic to it—and the riper the more histamine. So those kids eating that whole bowl may be looking at hives in their future. 😂
Doberman 15
Well it wasn\’t in the dog\’s collar. Which seems like such a silly opportunity to be missed and yet it was RIGHT there and they chose some other added backstory for it and a plain old boring hardrive? Tsk tsk. What a disappointment. Honestly, what did I expect. 😂 😂 😂
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
July 2, 2022 at 6:12 PM
Who doesn’t love a good Palindrome, girl~
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
June 15, 2022 at 4:35 AM
Link Episode 4
This show is a game of Cluedo.
It was the Three Bears, in the Alleyway, with the Shovel, the Rolling Pin and the Hammer!
No, it was the Chef, in the Greenhouse with the Trowel!
No, it was the! Uh… The Taxi Driver in the Fridge with the Knife… maybe.
I love it.
FlyingTool
June 16, 2022 at 1:49 PM
So, what is under the surface of that herb garden? That shovel didn’t go in very far…another red herring, most likely…
Anyway, another lovely sequence.
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
June 16, 2022 at 6:50 PM
Ahahaha I had the exact same initial thought! lol
Likely just a deliberate tease considering the nature of the show, and thus a red herring but you also never know hehe.
Although him placing down the trowel on the other hand is deliberate juxtoposition to how the three women did NOT place down the items in their hands, thus leading to the police station confusion; Uri Chef-nim has slightly more awareness of his actions 😂
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
June 15, 2022 at 4:32 AM
Link Episode 4
I can’t frakking breathe aldkfjhaldkjfhal *wheezes*
Ally
June 15, 2022 at 11:40 AM
I’m catching up on this too and really like it so far. The dark humor really is what sells it for me.
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
June 15, 2022 at 4:21 PM
Ditto! The humour is so right up my alley it’s fantastic~
psycho
June 15, 2022 at 7:16 PM
Best moment was when she actually said it wasn’t a knife or something along these lines, I had a good laugh.
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
June 15, 2022 at 7:46 PM
Oh yesss. Gosh there were so many good moments this episode tbh, I was struggling to pick which to share! hahahaha The brilliant use of pauses after those moments, and the directing and music just adds to the whole thing as well~
FlyingTool
June 16, 2022 at 12:46 PM
Just made it to episode 4. The rest of this scene is just perfect.
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
June 16, 2022 at 6:53 PM
One excellent sequence after another. I think I rewound at least thrice for some of his reactions here haha
emsel
June 17, 2022 at 8:58 AM
Moon Ga Young smile at the end sealed the whole sequence. It was a killer🤣🤣🤣
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
June 8, 2022 at 1:49 AM
Generally speaking, a pretty normal expectation I’d say. Nobody expects anyone to take their fridge. If it is in fact their fridge…
Link: Episode 2
I was very apprehensive going into this show (if you know, you know), but like… ya know… I don’t hate it. (le gasp)
I love the Fridge, I love how much drama it causes. When it’s supposed to be empty, it’s full; when it’s supposed to be full, it’s empty. What a drama queen. What a plot device. It’s so funny.
I like the colours and how they contribute to the weird small town/ small district vibe with their warmth even though it’s the middle of winter. (fig 3+4, everyone standing in complimentary colours and threes~)
It’s not, say, idk, Beyond Evil small town creepy- which was sad and melancholic, much more noir. This one is more a small town full of nosy locals, bright curiosities, and slightly too much murder than is normal. Just slightly though.
Everything is off kilter but in a way that is so much more my style of weird.
So, I’m so far enjoying it for what it is.
How long that will last, I don’t know.
We might jinx ourselves. It’s VERY early days yet lmao.
(fig 5. I’m such a sUCKER for teal and orange colour grading lOOKIT AT IT)
FlyingTool
June 15, 2022 at 11:53 AM
I thought…you know, I could stand to see a drama where the central character is a mysterious refrigerator. Reminded me of Dirk Gently’s refrigerator. Well, may be some day, but this isn’t it.
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
June 15, 2022 at 4:27 PM
Ahhh- but it’s doing such a good job of Supporting Plot Device anyway 😂😂😂
Are you liking this so far or nah?
FlyingTool
June 15, 2022 at 8:26 PM
Liking it so far. Which makes me apprehensive…
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
June 15, 2022 at 9:14 PM
You and me both on both counts! hahaha! My track record keeps telling me that liking it so much can only end badly 😅😅😅
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
June 6, 2022 at 10:30 PM
Love this little insight into people’s lives through the Liminal Space that is the Refrigerator- I could riff off that in multiple artistic mediums for a while- but also love it as an introduction to our show and where it lead to because Bodies in Refrigerators fills a very weird and very specific murder mystery niche of mine.
And to kick start an entire plot around that? Well… You could do worse… you could do worse. 😂😂😂
Link: Episode 1
larelle79
June 7, 2022 at 6:14 AM
I still miss Please Take Care of My Refridgerator. That show was so fun and noisy. 🙂
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
June 6, 2022 at 6:51 PM
STOP EATING MY COMMENTS, DRAMABEANS.
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
June 6, 2022 at 6:55 PM
TELL ME WHEN THERE’S AN INAPPROPRIATE WORD, DON’T JUST REFUSE TO COMMENTDJKHFALKJDF
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
June 6, 2022 at 6:56 PM
fRAk not one of these again
*splits up the paragraph- posts fine in parts but not as a whole*
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
June 6, 2022 at 6:57 PM
I HATE FORMATTING I/Ws
literally it just doesn’t like a dash before a bracket without a space before said dash…
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
June 6, 2022 at 7:00 PM
@ladynightshade and @laurensophie sorry for the mess under your comments LOL
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
June 5, 2022 at 9:15 PM
Reposting my MLN thoughts here for the sake of having it on my wall and for ease of bookmarking.
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My Liberation Notes Final Essay/Review:
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ah, screw it…
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I have struggled and continue to struggle personally with some of the concepts brought up in this show; the feeling of being stuck in a deep mental pit and unable to get out, the fact that getting out is an excruciatingly slow process with many ups and downs and backtracks that make it feel like any forward or upward progression is non-existent. I understand that theme and that feeling very, very well.
But only a few times throughout the show, and increasingly less and less as it went on, did the show\’s attempt at this subject matter actually resonate with me, or make me genuinely feel something.
I did not feel comforted or seen or emotionally connected to the show. I did not enjoy it as any exploration of anything otherwise. I did not get anything out of it. I did not truly relate to the characters I on paper have much in common with.
I felt alienated, unnerved, disconcerted even, consistently for 16 episodes. I found the characters immensely inaccessible. And frequently, I wondered what this show was actually about or trying to say because it too often seemed to be saying nothing at all, despite all attempts at otherwise.
Because you see, those pieces that did or could have resonated with me, and those lines that every so often were said that at very least were almost true, were just that; pieces. Moments. Slices. Out of context and out of place, floating ideas, individual and independent impressions.
They were not pieces in a collective and cohesive whole, woven together to form an intricate narrative or induce an emotional catharsis in resolution. In fact, they had no resolution because they were not a whole.
//
The final idea that liberation is an ongoing process, that seeking and finding happiness or a contentment to carry on, is made of tiny, miniscule attempts every day- sir, I cannot express to you how much I understand this concept, I KNOW this idea very deeply in my soul- though I would not describe it in those words, thus probably altering or expanding their meaning- but nonetheless I KNOW this idea. The statement in and of itself is not bad either.
But I did not feel a… a release when this idea was announced in the final episode.
For 16 episodes I was constantly asking myself “what is happening, and why? Where is it going?.”
But when we got to the end, I did not feel that this statement had actually ANSWERED that.
Or rather, I didn’t feel that this conclusionary statement was actually a satisfying result of everything that had gone before.
There was no \”ah yes so THAT\’S what this was all about\”. Instead, I felt a contempt for how that result was played out, and, more importantly, for how we got there.
I don’t think this show truly justified that being its final statement, in its execution and in how it told any of its story.
//
A fantastic example of this and why it bothers me so much, is Changhee’s narrative “conclusion.”
Changhee starts monologuing (out of nowhere and with no prior contextual set up) about a movie he’s watched that he somehow relates to or finds a particular sense of profoundness in.
The only reason this monologue is in here is to set up Hyeon Ah’s ex’s final moments and death, wherein Changhee once again plays the Last Post Angel for the Nearly Departed.
Changhee’s connection to the dead, this… ability as it were, to show up at the exact right moment to be there for someone at the end of their life, is introduced to us for the first time, in episode 14, after his mother’s death, where he tells us that this actually happened with his grandmother too. In Episode 16, we also learn that it happened with his grandfather as well, along with now his Hyung.
The show then ends his arc by him mistaking lecture rooms, ending up in an introductory course for funeral directors and deciding to stay, content that this is finally “where he is supposed to be”.
– I kid you not, I called that. As soon as he said “why does this keep happening”, I went “maybe you should go into funeral services then.” And then the show actually did … that.
My issue with this is- why is that a thing that he has to tell us HIMSELF, in EPISODE 14, and tacked onto the end of the show, the last four episodes even?
If we want to learn that that is a quality he has, and you want to make it INTO something, to juxtapose it against him always ending up magnetically attached to convenience stores or going bankrupt, or even to his sisters’ conversations about death, why isn\’t that WOVEN into the story throughout the whole show? And instead of us just being told, show it instead so that we put the pieces together ourselves and therefore the payoff is actually satisfying and makes sense, instead of it just being a cluster of disjointed events and dialogues.
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Another such example is, Why does the Liberation Club only have like 4 scenes in 16 hrs?
Why did we not see them for what felt like half the show, and then jump forward two years, and then get preached the supposed final message of the show? Why isn\’t that slowly explored and integrated better into everything else. Or, why wasn’t the club used as a background point to structure the whole show off? To draw more parallels between the familial relationships that had the most screen time and explore their personal journeys?
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Or yet another example:
The dialogue is frequently just a string of expositionary and often nonsensical monologues and voice overs.
Instead of exploring the ideas espoused in these monologues within the context of the show- characters just say stuff, and often- although not always- at random. And if *when* they say it is not random, then the thread that parses out within the dialogue itself, the *what* is random; starting off with a decent point perhaps, a point I would agree with, only to contradict itself twice within the next few sentences, and then unravelling to an illogical conclusion that I genuinely don’t know how was reached by where we started from, and leaving me with an unpleasant taste of half truth in my mouth.
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And I feel like this really sums up the show in its entirety, and the incompleteness I talked about at the beginning.
The characters are just pieces floating through a series of ambiguous philosophical ideas, and then they themselves are only made up of vague thought pieces as well.
The story threads are not tied to each other or to the characters.
Nobody and nothing is part of a whole, or connected in a way that both makes sense and is satisfying narratively.
The worldview behind this show is scattered, inconsistent, and so the product itself is incohesive.
The effect that this has is that everything feels faux deep, wannabe deep, without actually saying anything at all.
This show thinks it is justified in its story, however, in what it says and how it says it, in its form. But for me… it has no true form. It is just a vague collection of philosophical musings, that do not in fact make up a story just by stringing them all together.
//
Ah- maybe this isn\’t a story. Maybe this is just an arbitrary collection of thoughts and feelings and philosophies. Maybe that is what it is supposed to be, and thus maybe it is just that I am unsympathetic to this approach to media.
But you see. I am.
I am very unsympathetic to this quite clearly intentional approach to the medium. That’s the problem.
Because I want genuine stories, intricately and heartfeltly crafted to engage in ideas and emotions through that wonderful and powerful and ancient tradition and medium of storytelling. Where all the pieces are properly CONNECTED and work together, and you can see the weave and the pattern, and the reasoning behind the pattern.
I don\’t want just a list of contradictory thoughts and feelings, oblique, ersatz and tumblr-esque attempts at depth and character writing.
I don’t want nothings and nobodies, and no discernible pattern.
Anyone, and I\’m not joking about this, anyone can make a collection of vague philosophical musings.
That is not storytelling. That is not craft.
You haven’t crafted anything!
You just went “oh look dissociative Ghibli-but-oh-so-definitely-not-Ghibli aesthetics (that WEREN’T my doing because I’m not the director) slapped on post-modernist enlightenment theatre student’s footnotes! Behold! A Play!”
What am I, Diogenes? (Well… actually…)
Kill me now.
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*ANNNNNND now I shall run away before I get lynched BYE*
Word Count: 1446 gasp so smol for a sicarius essaius lel
Lixie
June 6, 2022 at 8:31 AM
Thanks. I always feel slightly crazy when I get annoyed or bored by a drama that is loved by many. I write some posts trying to explain the reasons for it and sometimes a few people even agree but it can feel like maybe it would be easier if I wasn’t so picky. Posts like yours make me remember I’m not so picky, it’s just that a lot of average dramas become popular for many reasons that have nothing to do with their real quality.
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
June 4, 2022 at 9:31 PM
Hi, I finally finished Grid pffft.
Posting my mini Review here also, just in case the relevant people don\’t get the other tag (@gadis and @midnight mainly):
Disclaimer: I am basically allergic to Time Travel as a concept in its entirety, so from that point of view this show was not made for me at all, and I probably shouldn\’t have watched it because of that…
There are some plot points (holes) that can be explained away via theories, and there are some plot points (holes) that definitely cannot be. And it\’s all very well to have a block universe theory but to me that just sounds like a cop out for the plot holes, and also kind of weirdly makes the entire show pointless in some ways… But basically, I don\’t really have much more to say on the plot because, whilst I COULD say a lot, I just kind of think Time Travel is dumb… so… moving on.
I had fun for the first 5, 5 and a half episodes, for what it was; I thought the way the action was written and shot was well done and slick.
Character wise- I enjoyed Seo Kang Joon immensely and I like Saeha, but I didn\’t find his arc to be very satisfying or well written overall. I wasn\’t really moved, or into his motivations and what development there was.
Thematically I also didn\’t really care of anything this was trying to say- I\’m not opposed to some of its themes, but I didn\’t find its attempt at them to be very interesting or compelling; they\’ve been done before and better, so they didn\’t grab me here.
ye. That\’s about it. lol.
Midnight
June 4, 2022 at 10:09 PM
Thank you Sic.
Me on the other hand, love time travel but have rarely found a show that I loved.
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
June 4, 2022 at 10:16 PM
What were your thoughts on Grid, as a TT lover?
Midnight
June 4, 2022 at 10:18 PM
I haven’t watched it yet 😁 I was waiting for your green light 😁
I think I will. I’ll let you know.
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
June 4, 2022 at 10:36 PM
Oh! Hahaha. /My/ green light. Oh dear haha- I wouldn’t recc it but if you like TT it might be alright… please do let me know what you think haha.
I think I miraculously avoided most major spoilers in this.
Midnight
June 4, 2022 at 10:41 PM
Hahahaha! Ok I’ll be honest. I had watched a few intense thrillers back to back and felt too drained to start Grid. I was lazily watching Start Up and waiting to see what you might say.
Now I have started Youth of May, and I don’t know if I have the head space to continue melodrama or the thrill will call me back!
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
June 4, 2022 at 10:52 PM
Oh that’s totally fair enough to be honest- I know the feeling well.
For what it’s worth I didn’t really find Grid that heavy or intense- and it does move pretty quickly if you binge it.
emsel
June 4, 2022 at 11:34 PM
Please no! I watched it while it aired each week and I guess part of that was what kept the suspense going, but it would be even more disappointing if you were to binge watch! Please don’t spend your time on this drama by depending on the writer’s past work or the actors and use it on worthwhile dramas
Midnight
June 4, 2022 at 11:56 PM
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Midnight
June 4, 2022 at 11:57 PM
Now that is discouraging 😄
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
June 5, 2022 at 12:03 AM
Yeah listen to Emsel.
Weirdly, I feel like I should’ve or could’ve been way more annoyed and frustrated at this drama than I was. I reached a resigned consensus on it pretty quickly when I finished the final episode today. I also always expected it to not make sense given the whole… time travel thing lmao. Maybe wasn’t expecting it to make THAT much no sense but… ya know! hahaha
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
June 4, 2022 at 11:22 PM
I love this genre and I love this writer and if you ask me wtf happened in this show I couldn’t tell you. I *think* I know what they were saying but – oh look, Dark continues to have a lot to answer for.
Midnight
June 5, 2022 at 12:01 AM
I think I can take it as long as it doesn’t make me angry.
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
June 5, 2022 at 12:19 AM
It won’t make you angry, it’s just clearly setting up for a second season and I didn’t expect that going in.
wapz
June 5, 2022 at 12:25 AM
It definitely made me angry when I watched it every week. Every week would end up woth more questions and a cliff hanger. I guess it will more bearable when binge watched.
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
June 5, 2022 at 12:27 AM
Oh yes there is no way I could have tolerated this week to week with only one episode. And then to get the end and realise it’s not the end at all.
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
June 5, 2022 at 12:32 AM
Definitely. The 10 week wait was a bit excruciating but did make it a bit more palatable… at least just on a consumption rate level.
gadis is camping in the cells village (again)
June 5, 2022 at 1:28 AM
Oh, it won’t make you angry. Just confused. Though it’s a good, intriguing kind of confusing for me (I’m clearly one of the weird ones when it comes to this drama).
Midnight
June 5, 2022 at 1:30 AM
This is encouraging. I’m usually very weird in my drama taste too.
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
June 5, 2022 at 3:58 AM
I am sorry if my review didn’t live up to your expectations gadis 😅😅😅
gadis is camping in the cells village (again)
June 5, 2022 at 5:55 AM
Haha…
To be honest, I read this fully prepared to defend the drama or argue my point. And then I found out that I couldn’t really argue against… indifference(??). I fully understand it, though, since time travel seemed to be really not your genre. (While I found out that I like it quite a bit even in k-drama format)
Let’s hope for another “weird” dramas in the future where we can compare our thoughts and opinions more enthusiastically. 😆😆
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
June 5, 2022 at 8:53 PM
Hear hear to more enthusiastic discussions indeed! haha
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
June 5, 2022 at 12:05 AM
😂😂😂 the amount of times I just said “… what.” whilst trying to finish the finale…
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
June 5, 2022 at 12:18 AM
Just think of it as bubble universes, with two new timelines branching off from and looping back around to the parent universe. Like Dark.
So in one we have the Ghost’s world that she’s trying to ensure comes about (the female line) and in the other we have the other timeline that the other time traveller is trying to bring about (the male line). Like Dark.
And these changes are affected by travelling back to the original parent universe. Like Dark.
What therefore seem like Bootstrap paradoxes are due to the interactions of the three universes
I think the biggest flaw of the show was that Lee Soo-yeon didn’t give the story the emotional heft it needed. Dark was devastating. Emotionally devastating. I can’t say that about Grid. Even Sae-byeok’s sudden decision to sleep with her ex and have his child wasn’t supported by her emotional growth during the show. I would have found it more believable if she announced she was pregnant to Sae-ha instead.
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
June 5, 2022 at 12:30 AM
No, I can understand that, that doesn’t make me think it’s less dumb though… 😛 😛
100% agree about the emotional heft though.
When she said she barely knew Saeha in that scene to Eojin, as if she like had no reason to care … I was like… girl~
And the fact that she literally says 10 seconds before the “kiss” that she wants to nothing to do with him?
(post script: I haven’t seen Dark. I have read your review on Dark though. Something tells me I wouldn’t love it as much as you 😛 )
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
June 5, 2022 at 12:31 AM
Oh you’d hate Dark. I guarantee it. Time travel is just not your genre.
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
June 5, 2022 at 12:37 AM
yeahp. lol.
gadis is camping in the cells village (again)
June 5, 2022 at 1:35 AM
I have to agree with this despite liking the show itself. Grid could use more emotional anchor to make viewers more invested in the crazy timelines change. The show came off as too cerebral to be moving, almost as if it was a long illustration for time-travel theories. (Though a part of my nerdy self is actually giddy because of it. Haha…)
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
June 5, 2022 at 1:41 AM
At the end I was scratching my head as to why he had to die for the timeline and then I realised – it was because her need for comfort after his loss was what led her to sleep with her ex and have her daughter. But that relies on us believing firstly that his death devastated her and also that she had some residual feelings and/or sexual tension wth her ex. I saw neither of those things. If anything, I thought she had nothing but contempt for her ex.
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
June 5, 2022 at 3:57 AM
You also have to wonder at why THAT apparently was her plan for Saebyeok to have a child? Like… really? That’s the only plan you have? Good grief. (Well no, it’s probably not the only plan you have if the ending is anything to go by but WHY was it the plan WE had to watch… 👀.
And then we’re back to LT’s original comment lel)
Midnight
June 5, 2022 at 1:28 AM
I only now checked the writer. Now the beanies’ disappointment is much more understandable. I didn’t dislike FoS but I didn’t think it a masterpiece like most beanies do. The only reason I was curious about Grid was because of TT.
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
June 5, 2022 at 1:48 AM
Yes the writer is also why the procedural components were better written than the scifi ones and why she’s more comfortable with professional rather than personal relationships.
emsel
June 4, 2022 at 11:37 PM
You really have a high tolerance for sitting through dramas that you do not enjoy, dislike or lose interest midway and then continue to put a writeup(short/long/whatever) on it😂😂😂
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
June 5, 2022 at 12:00 AM
*snorts* and at great detriment to my sanity and blood pressure, I know.
I think this is a compliment but something tells me it shouldn’t be. Honest, I’m way better at dropping than I used to be, if you can believe that. 😂
Kurama
June 5, 2022 at 12:14 AM
I started it. But the one episode by week made the story very slow. So I thought I will binge it at the end. But the final review made me dropped it.
I don’t understand why they try SF when they don’t seem to have at least a vague idea of their story…
Midnight
June 5, 2022 at 1:07 AM
I never live-watch. Never. No matter how much I love a show it will ruin it for me.
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
May 16, 2022 at 1:36 AM
*pinches self*
I’m dreaming, right. That is Kwak Dong Yeon in an actual lead role, right. Finally? :O
pickleddragon
May 16, 2022 at 1:43 AM
This.Is.Not.A.Dream.
Repeat ∞
Kurama
May 16, 2022 at 1:48 AM
AAAAAAhhhh, finally!!!
miss h
May 16, 2022 at 4:39 AM
Yes! The description reminds me of On the Verge of Insanity. Hopefully, it can be at least half as good.
pickleddragon
May 16, 2022 at 5:22 AM
I’m counting on it. KDY has the Midas touch. He’ll make magic happen.
ladynightshade | lee bangwon’s fan
May 16, 2022 at 5:08 AM
OH MY GOD ITS HAPPENING.
pinch me. i need to believe it’s real.
pickleddragon
May 16, 2022 at 5:22 AM
sending virtual pinches. Yes, it IS!!!!!
pickleddragon
May 16, 2022 at 5:21 AM
Like @katakwasabi said, the plot sounds funny and like OTVOI v 2.0. Makes me doubly excited. I CANNOT WAIT. PALLI.
Jance
May 16, 2022 at 7:56 AM
YEEEEEESSSSS!! \O/
jillian
May 16, 2022 at 9:35 AM
Finally!!! Right here celebrating with you all!
I love OTVOI so if its anything like it, I will enjoy his first drama as lead.
Well, i enjoy seeing him onscreen regardless… but still!
Cindy Mahri
May 16, 2022 at 10:28 AM
Oh my. KYAAAHHH! So happy for our bb! Looking forward to this! 😍
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
May 15, 2022 at 3:42 AM
Hey, hey HEY, nO SLANDERING MINT CHIP ICE CREAM IN THIS HOUSE, BOY. Even if it is just with your delightfully expressive eyebrows.
We do not tolerate The Mint Chip Heresy in Melonia; it’s a crime punishable by perpetual tickling, executed by the illustrious Lee Yeon himself.
Oh Han Byeol is clearly the more civilised of the duo, here (wait we already knew that).
Ally
May 15, 2022 at 5:14 AM
Well, at least we know she won’t have to share it! 😂 Sounds like a perfect match to me! Reminds me of my son and daughter who have the exact opposite tastes in every food imaginable. I used to buy canned mixed fruit for them—you know the peaches and pears and that one lone 1/2 Maraschino cherry in syrup? My daughter would only eat the peaches in a DB my son the pears and then they’d switch bowls do the other to finish! It was adorable.
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
May 15, 2022 at 5:29 AM
Lol! I love that- who got the cherry though? hahaha
Ally
May 15, 2022 at 6:05 AM
Well, that would go to my son who loves cherries. My daughter prefers strawberries. 😆
ladynightshade | lee bangwon’s fan
May 15, 2022 at 5:54 AM
Sorry, but I’m with Tae-sung on this one. I like my ice cream to not taste like spearmint gum or toothpaste. No offense Sicarius.
Han-byul can have all the ice cream she wants. Tae-sung and his delightful eyebrows can share with me 😊.
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
May 15, 2022 at 6:18 AM
*smh at people who think it tastes like toothpaste* *aiyooo such unrefined taste buds* *you know spear mint and peppermint are two different kinds of mint right?* *Like they’re a different plant just if the same genus?* *Also were you here for 9Tails? You should’ve been here for 9T* *Okay I’ll shut up now* *😂😂😂*
ladynightshade | lee bangwon’s fan
May 15, 2022 at 11:36 PM
Oh I was here for Nine-Tailed alright. Every time they kept mentioning how great mint chocolate chip was, I had the same face as Tae-sung in these photos 😂.
Cori 🍓🌙🐶
May 15, 2022 at 8:29 AM
Perhaps one of the most shocking discoveries of my adult life, as I came to know more people and more opinions, is finding out the strong hatred many people have for mint chocolate chip ice cream. Personally I love it 💚 of course not everyone will, but people sure are passionate about it when they don’t 😅
bbstl
May 15, 2022 at 3:49 PM
🙋🏼♀️ Yep, passionate hatred for all things mint 🤢 ugh. Since I also hate frozen pieces of chocolate in anything, Mint Chocolate Chip is truly horrifying 😱
Tae Sung and I will enjoy Salted Caramel Gelato together over in the corner, thanks 👍🏼
Cori 🍓🌙🐶
May 17, 2022 at 2:47 PM
Oh no haha, it’s double yuck then!
That sounds delicious, I think would trade mint chocolate chip for the gelato 😋
bbstl
May 17, 2022 at 4:07 PM
It’s the yummiest, please join us! 🍨🍨🍨
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
May 12, 2022 at 1:45 AM
Yeah, that’s how I look at a sword too…
Bloody Heart 2
wapz
May 12, 2022 at 1:46 AM
How are you finding the show? I feel it’s pretty good so far.
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
May 12, 2022 at 3:03 AM
I only just started so… hmmm not overall sure yet!
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
May 11, 2022 at 11:54 PM
Waaahhhhhhhh 예쁘다~~~
Bloody Heart 1
Kurama
May 12, 2022 at 12:14 AM
They filmed an episode of 2D1N when they showed where and how they made this fireworks.
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
May 12, 2022 at 3:03 AM
Ooooh! Cool! Reminds me of a recent Sushi Ramen Riku video actually as well, pfft
Kurama
May 12, 2022 at 4:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52kZ9sWJbaE&ab_channel=KBSWORLDTV
It was this episode. I think it’s the same place.
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
May 10, 2022 at 4:47 AM
Alexa please play the Broken Record: Lee Soo Hyuk is Utterly Wasted and has Criminal Screen Time in this Show, and is Completely Overdue a Lead Role -_-
Kurama
May 10, 2022 at 5:18 AM
At least, this time, he’s in a good drama, not like Doom at Your Service or worse Born Again.
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
May 10, 2022 at 3:15 PM
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💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
May 10, 2022 at 3:18 PM
Unfortunately for you I do not think Tomorrow is a good drama…
Better than Doom? Yeah (not that that’s hard). Good? Hmm no.
Kurama
May 10, 2022 at 10:53 PM
Oh, it changes nothing for me, so it’s unfortunately for you, I guess. 😅
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
May 11, 2022 at 12:09 AM
Unfortunate for someone lol~ 😅
Midnight
May 10, 2022 at 10:00 AM
I confess that I think Lee Soo Hyuk is much too cold to ever make me care for as a hero-type lead character.
Jance
May 10, 2022 at 12:59 PM
If he had a dry sense of humour, though?
Midnight
May 10, 2022 at 10:14 PM
Nope, sorry. But it’s ok. I will simply skip the show.
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
May 10, 2022 at 3:17 PM
Isn’t that just cos he’s been hella typecast though? Like we’ve never SEEN him in anything else? (Not including White Christmas).
Besides, a lead doesn’t have to be a typical warm hero type :p
Midnight
May 10, 2022 at 10:13 PM
Maybe… I don’t know… His eyes are so cold..
I didn’t mean a typical warm type. Just the inner passion to make me care.
I have nothing against him getting lead roles. Just let it not be a show with actors I do want to watch 😁
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
May 11, 2022 at 12:12 AM
Hmmm curious. Can you expand a bit more on what you mean by “passion to make me care”?
Like you’ve never cared about any of his characters, ever before? Or you can’t care about him as an actor because of that “cold” look?
Or can you care about him when he’s not a hero lead? Which is what I thought you meant from the original comment.
Midnight
May 11, 2022 at 2:37 AM
I have never liked any of his characters. Liked, as in him making me care about the character’s feelings and wishes and goals and intents. To me, he lacks passion, of any kind. Leaves me completely cold and uninterested. So I think if he becomes a male lead I will have no interest in watching and following his story. I might be proven wrong. But I probably won’t try watching.
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
May 11, 2022 at 3:37 AM
Hmmm ok! Fair enough! Thanks for sharing!
I can’t wholly relate, although I think I know where you’re coming from; as I mentioned below, I have definitely cared about his chars before, even in Tomorrow. Actually he’s kind of the only character I care about consistently in Tomorrow despite what I think of the writing of said character, lol.
I also think he has been consistently overly typecast in a certain style of role (cold, aloof, villainous, badass but sexy etc).
Which is kind of a shame because I think whilst he’s no Ziggy when it comes to acting (few are), I still think he’s capable of more, and for me he always has a unique screen presence.
I also wonder, how much of that feeling could be contributed to by poor or weak writing. Not to try and convince you to like him if he doesn’t work for you, but because I know so many of them have *also* been weak in that regard.
Would definitely recommend White Christmas though- and not just for him haha.
Midnight
May 11, 2022 at 6:32 AM
I have seen bits of White Christmas some years ago but I wasn’t in a mental state to be able to enjoy that type of show. This past few years though I have been preferring much darker shows. So I might watch it some time.
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
May 11, 2022 at 9:56 PM
You definitely have to make the headspace for it, that’s for sure!
Kurama
May 11, 2022 at 1:34 AM
You should watch Valid Love, it’s my favourite role for him. He was really good and rocked the carpenter style.
Midnight
May 11, 2022 at 2:39 AM
I did start Valid Love because I liked the first leads but I dropped it after a few episodes.
Jance
May 11, 2022 at 12:53 AM
I remember watching him in White Christmas and being really upset at his character arc (no spoilers haha) so I know I can care about him ^^
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
May 11, 2022 at 1:21 AM
I definitely can too. I also loved White Christmas despite … certain things (no spoilers again haha).
Kurama
May 11, 2022 at 1:34 AM
At least, he’s not typecast as emo character like in White Christmas and What’s Up :p
I liked his chemistry with Kim Ji-Won in What’s Up, the piano scene was great :p
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
May 11, 2022 at 3:38 AM
I guess that’d’ve been worse? Idk lol.
Midnight
May 11, 2022 at 2:40 AM
Good to know
ladynightshade | lee bangwon’s fan
May 10, 2022 at 12:13 PM
Even thinking about it makes me mad! What does this man need to do to get his due??
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
May 10, 2022 at 4:43 AM
Me, whenever I eat Tiramisu too, to be be fair. That’s just how Tiramisu is.
Showtime #5
Kurama
May 10, 2022 at 4:47 AM
Tiramisu is so good!
bbstl
May 10, 2022 at 7:13 AM
I love him. Must start this show at once!
larelle79
May 10, 2022 at 7:29 AM
When he called it Pyramid, the way I laughed. The way I laughed.
Jance
May 10, 2022 at 8:23 AM
Cue ~Tiramisu Cake, Tiramisu Cake~
Mani-chan
May 11, 2022 at 5:12 AM
I love our General experiencing the wonders of modern life before entering Nirvana
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
May 8, 2022 at 8:49 PM
We\’re back! Now, where were we with that drama catch up list…
Our Blues- DROPPED Episode 5
Shooting Stars – Caught Up, as of last night
Showtime- 4, 5, 6
Love All Play- 6
Tomorrow- 11 + 12
My Liberation Notes- 9 + 10
Grid- 9, 10
Non Airing Drama- Half way
Red Heart- To Start, 1 + 2
Monstrous- To Start?
Shopping List- To Start?
tabong
May 8, 2022 at 10:04 PM
I dropped Our Blues today. I watched half of episode 9 and… I’m so going to pretend I only watched the first three episodes. You did well by stopping at 5.
parkchuna is still an Errant 🫘
May 9, 2022 at 5:02 AM
Hi tabong! I decided to continue our blues 5&6 n i thought it was pretty well done. Now i’m stuck again as 7&8 looked like a tough watch fr the comments & some clips. I just wanted to say that despite the storyline, the cast does live up to their name and there’s some solid acting here even fr the two youngsters. I’m gonna let this one sit in the to continue list for a bit more before deciding to let go or not..
tabong
May 9, 2022 at 10:57 AM
Hi, Chuna ^^
Episodes 7 and 8 made me like episodes 5 and 6 a little more. But I still think I should´ve stopped at episode 3.
If you want great acting then you should watch episodes 7 and 8. All the actors are doing a great job, so good that I don´t care about the acting I´m just seeing the characters. Maybe that´s why I dislike them so much, they´re too real (and annoying). I feel like I want to get the hell out of Jeju and never see those people again. I hope you enjoy it, tho.
I feel like beanies are divided 50-50 about the show, so I´m curious which 50 you´ll be. Hehe
mmmmm
May 9, 2022 at 1:43 AM
Ok, I don’t think I want to continue Our Blues then and I’m now at ep2. So many Beans have dropped it and that is a sign of sth.
miss h
May 9, 2022 at 8:33 AM
I like it more than My Liberation Notes, which Beanies all love, but then, I tend to have an opposite opinion on a lot of things.
Ghost of Tim
May 9, 2022 at 11:11 AM
I have this horrible fascination with k-drama train wrecks, so I’ll stick with Our Blues until the end. Actually, after watching E10, I feel like there might be more hope emerging for the stories on that crazy island. Maybe its just my wishful thinking.
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
May 10, 2022 at 12:13 AM
I mean, I HOPE there’s hope emerging. That would be a nice direction for it all to go despite everything.
Possum
May 10, 2022 at 11:17 PM
I’ll probably stay the course as well. The cast is so good.
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
May 5, 2022 at 1:10 AM
@db-staff as of this morning I have been receiving notifications from bots commenting on posts of mine from a year ago : https://www.dramabeans.com/members/sicarius/activity/1212282/
They deleted the first one, changed their handle and commented again.
emsel
May 5, 2022 at 5:05 AM
Perhaps they are trying to recruit you 😂😂😂😂
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
May 5, 2022 at 3:37 PM
Clearly!!!!! Lmao not that I have time for even my own rn 🤣🤣
mugyuljoie is preciousss
May 7, 2022 at 9:13 AM
I think they’re trying to help you ascend to the highest category of Beaniedom.
mugyuljoie is preciousss
May 5, 2022 at 6:49 AM
I continue to be saddened at their lack of creativity. Bring back Damien Knitter.
SnarkyJellyfish
May 5, 2022 at 1:53 PM
The bots have recognized you as one of their own. This may be your chance to take them down from the inside.
mmmmm
May 6, 2022 at 1:26 PM
😂😂😂
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
April 30, 2022 at 3:30 AM
Love All Play’s brain 24/7 be like…
Kurama
April 30, 2022 at 5:09 AM
He’s a centipede too? 🤔
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
April 30, 2022 at 2:40 AM
*Sic wondering what the Korean Strawberry production and industry looks like since Strawberries are a summer fruit and this is set in winter and Korea is not exactly California… Greenhouses but they’re still gonna be off season*
*Sic wondering why anyone in the middle of winter would nonetheless turn down any strawberries, again since they’re a summer fruit, and bitch do you know how much I’d kill for that many strawberries in the middle of winter????*
*Sic looking at them struggling when it would not be at all hard for herself to devour that entire bowl without thinking… *: … weak
wapz
April 30, 2022 at 2:59 AM
I’ve only ever eaten strawberries in winter. So this has sent me into an existential crisi… what have I been eating all the time?
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
April 30, 2022 at 3:21 AM
Well now I’M having an existential crisis… may I ask where you’re from?
That might help me propose and answer.
Strawberries only fruit here from Dec-Feb, which is our summer. They’ll fruit a bit longer if it’s a bit warmer, and depending on your latitude, but I primarily associate them as a seasonal fruit and with my Christmas because of this.
They are available in the winter here but they’re expensive and imported, and generally not as juicy or ripe.
But this is very particular to where I live – I live in NZ; We have a temperate oceanic climate with noticible season shifts, lots of micro climates, and the south is very dry and cold in comparison (where I’m from), so NZ grows a lot of its own produce during the relevant seasons and imports in the off seasons.
Unlike California for example, which can produce seasonal fruit all year round.
Lelly19
April 30, 2022 at 3:15 AM
Well, to me they’re a summer fruit too, but at the same time in stores they sell them in season from around February to May (when we’re lucky ><)…yet the few I have in my garden grow in summer too…so maybe it's just about different varieties? No clue really xD
Also I was recently watching something (wish I remembered what..) where a person made a comment about strawberry season being almost over, and that adds to my confusion lol
P.S. I live in Europe
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
April 30, 2022 at 3:28 AM
Most likely just import them during your Winter is my guess, as I mentioned to wapz above, as ours are???
But these in the show are from a farmer he knows, suggesting locally grown which threw me off 😅. Hence my wondering about the Korean industry and if they have a big off season industry by growing them domestically in greenhouses. I don’t know enough about the commercial industry tbh- my hyung grows them and they fruit prolifically every summer! Haha
It could be a variety thing but most I know of have a Spring or Summer starting season at least 🤔
Something for me to research and go down a rabbit hole for! (But not tonight pfft)
Lelly19
April 30, 2022 at 5:56 AM
We do import some, yeah (from Spain mainly, so still EU), but I mostly buy ones grown here (in Italy)…a mystery ahah!
Please share your findings later too! 😁
…meanwhile I’ll be googling too xD 💻👀
mindy📔liberation club member
April 30, 2022 at 3:40 AM
Strawberries are actually a winter/spring fruit in Korea, thanks to greenhouses 🙂 I believe March/April is considered peak strawberry season.
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
April 30, 2022 at 3:55 AM
Hmmmm I figured as much.
I wonder if they just speed up the process so they can get them to fruit just that much earlier, that would align with March/April being peak which just 2-3 months before natural peak.
Maybe that’s easier for them than full winter production.
This post has just turned into Sic’s farming and gardening stream of consciousness musings lmfao…
I presume you know this specifically for a reason????
mindy📔liberation club member
April 30, 2022 at 4:45 AM
Lol, I just watch a lot of Korean vloggers and one I watched recently lamented the end of strawberry season, so I was curious and googled it!
Ally
April 30, 2022 at 5:33 AM
Well, if my husband can grow tangerines in the winter in my basement, S. Korea can probably manage strawberries. But this reminds me of when I used to live in Norcal and you could just stop by the side of the road in June and have the sweetest strawberries of your life. My son (who was 2 at tel he time) ate his weight in strawberries from Sacramento to San Fransisco once and paid for it with the worst hives I’ve ever seen! So word to the wise: strawberries are histiminergic (enhances the release of histamine) and can cause hives whether or not you’re allergic to it—and the riper the more histamine. So those kids eating that whole bowl may be looking at hives in their future. 😂
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
April 27, 2022 at 4:47 AM
Girrrl, can you have this hairstyle again please??? ♥
Midnight
April 27, 2022 at 6:29 AM
I did a double take because I’m watching Nobody Knows and Kim Seo Hyung has the exact same hairstyle.
ladynightshade | lee bangwon’s fan
April 27, 2022 at 11:12 AM
Wow, maybe I’ll one day watch this show after all.
Zora
April 27, 2022 at 6:07 PM
She looks sooooo hot!!!
💜🍍☠️ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠️🍍💜
April 26, 2022 at 4:29 AM
Doberman 15
Well it wasn\’t in the dog\’s collar. Which seems like such a silly opportunity to be missed and yet it was RIGHT there and they chose some other added backstory for it and a plain old boring hardrive? Tsk tsk. What a disappointment. Honestly, what did I expect. 😂 😂 😂
Kurama
April 26, 2022 at 4:43 AM
You have more imagination of the writers!
Bolt was the perfect guardian, they missed an opportunity.
Kurama
April 26, 2022 at 4:44 AM
than*