Beanie level: Errand boy

I agree with Ga-hee: The guy who plays Hyo-shin in Once Again really does have a magnificent build.

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    I think I like them together but the age difference is so stark. Idk. I just like how sweet he is to her son and how supportive he is of her. She deserves someone like that.

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      Ehh, I think I’m much more relaxed with age gaps than other people tbh. I think the age gap becomes a problem if there’s an imbalanced dynamic in the relationship. That doesn’t seem to be the case here, so I’m okay with the difference, even though it really does seem to be quite large.

      He is really sweet. Idk, Ga-hee is also my favourite of the siblings, so I’m happy.

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The contract thing is super manipulative, even for Moon-young.

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    MY wouldn’t shy away from a bit of old-school manipulation 😁 (at least not right now).
    Still on episode 5, but my hunch is that if KT and MY get together soon in the drama, they’ll have lots of problems arising from the issues they both have individually. So, ideally – for me – this drama would be mainly about them finding a way of being together that doesn’t devolve into destructive madness…

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    From what I read, people with ASPD are not above manipulating others to get what they want so it is in character but yeah, it’s pretty bad.

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Five minutes into episode 6.

I feel the problem with both Moon-young and Kang-tae is that they both have distorted notions about what human relationships are.

Moon-young views other people as things she can possess, things she can own and use. She doesn’t acknowledge that people have their own personality – that they have thoughts and feelings. Even worse, she doesn’t realize that what she wants isn’t ownership. What she wants is genuine care and concern, and that cannot come from a relationship predicated on inequality, manipulation, or disregard of another’s individuality. She wants to be with Kang-tae, but she doesn’t realize this (or, if she does, she dismisses it) and instead thinks she wants to have Kang-tae.

On the other hand, Kang-tae views close relationship as burdens. He thinks every relationship is, at core, like his relationship with his brother. He thinks that forming a relationship means taking responsibility for another person and caring for them at the expense of himself. Every relationship means further self-abnegation, further suppression of his own desires, emotions, thoughts, and beliefs. That’s why he shies away from closeness from others and that’s also why he consistently says such harsh things to Moon-young whenever he responds to her advances. He doesn’t realize that (1) not all people are autistic like his brother but also (2) even his relationship with his brother is not healthy.

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    Great observations of both characters

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    I think for KT it’s not so much that another person would be a burden but that he doesn’t want to feel guilty toward this person or his brother. Even more guilty. If we go by drama standards, which girlfriend would be understanding about being second place? His brother always comes first. He can’t get married, buy a house, live with her or have children. Not even Ju-Ri would agree with his choices.

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      I think this is mostly an excuse though. I think this is the fiction KT has told himself to justify the distance he maintains – that any other relationship will either create strain on his relationship with his brother or his relationship with his brother will create strain on his relationship with this third-party. Either way, implicit in this fiction is a belief about what he believes he needs to sacrifice for his brother (things which he objectively doesn’t need to sacrifice but which he’s somehow convinced himself he needs to sacrifice) and a belief that any new relationship will impose additional responsibilities which will make it difficult for him to be the kind of brother he thinks he has to be.

      I also think he does believe new relationships will impose independent burdens which don’t have to do with his brother. That comes out, for instance, in his confrontation at the beginning of episode 6, when he admits that he pretended not to know who Moon-young was to avoid having to deal with whatever feelings he had towards her. He had that very evocative line, shouted in anger and frustration, that he doesn’t want more people in his life who need him.

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Do all Korean celebrities have youtube accounts now? Ji Chang-wook, Park Min-young, Ahn Bo-young, etc. Is this the new trend?

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    It might be the new trend with the self-quarantine situation

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    so, one thing about korean entertainment is that they don’t distinguish or look down upon the medium/platform..

    aka movies vs drama vs theatre

    Youtube has become popular in last couple of years in korea and is a money making channel, so everyone is doing it

    and it is interesting because these folks are making eveyrhting professional instead of how even some of the biggest early influencers channels are or have been globally

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    Basucally, yes. I believe they take all the earnings for this one especially if they do everything themselves (filming, editing, etc.).

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I’m half-way through episode 5 of IOTNBO. One of the fascinating things about this show is how Kang-tae, the person who doesn’t have ASPD, is the one who consistently tramples on the feelings of Moon-young, the person who does have ASPD. Between the two of them, it seems to me Moon-young has been more honest about her own feelings and, despite some clumsiness, been more careful to avoid hurting Kang-tae (especially not gratuitously).

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    I think he has only politely refused her romantic advances? Meanwhile he has also helped her a great deal and I don’t mean that rescue from the rain kk, I’m talking about stopping her from stabbing a mental patient and trying to stop her from attacking the other guy, he wasn’t as fast there but he tried.

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      I think he’s done more than refuse her romantic advances though. He’s gone out of his way to hurt her in his rejections (at the hospital, for example, or after Moon-young’s tiff with Joo-ri).

      I don’t mean to say he’s been totally rude or clueless towards her. They’re cute together and he’s definitely helped her a lot! My only point is that, between the two of them, he’s gone out of his way to hurt her more than she has him.

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        It’s more about his words than his actions. I understand, she becomes so pushy that he answers with harsh words sometimes.

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Seven minute mark into episode 5: Moon-young delivers comeuppance AND makes Kang-tae aware of how he feels. Ooph. Moon-young’s good. She’s really good.

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    Best scene is when Moon-young completely reverse gender roles on Kang-tae by backing him into a wall, followed by the motel owner lifting up a condom. LOL. This show is amazing.

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MOON-YOUNG IS FILTHY AND I LOVE IT

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Two minutes into episode 5 of IOTNBO and we all know Moon-young is the zombie kid.

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    They’re both of them zombie kids. She was surprised by his analysis and her quick thinking made her realize that.

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It wouldn’t fix the show, which is a mess for so many reasons beyond this one thing, but I think I’d like Backstreet Rookie more if they let Dae-hyun be with Yeon-joo and Saet-byul with Ji-wook

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If episode 1 through 4 of Backstreet Rookie didn’t convince you that the show trades in anti-black racist stereotypes, surely episode 5 is proof.

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    ep 1 was bad..in general.. not even funny
    has it improved? worth watching?

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      Not really. It’s still boring, the characters are still childish and 2-dimensional, the writing is still lazy and and unoriginal, and the comedy still relies on obscene stereotypes. I FF most of the episodes and really only watch because KYJ.

      At this point, after watching multiple JCW shows, I’m convinced that I just don’t like him very much as an actor (I’ve watched Healer, Suspicious Partner, The K2, and Melting Me Softly; the only one of these show I liked was Suspicious Partner). He’s pretty, but that’s about it.

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        aha!!
        i thought i was the only one..
        seen him in healer, suspicious partner, k2,and now this.. i don’t think he is a good actor.. mediocre at best

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    They used the word Ardipithius to describe Black people in episode 1.

    That. Was. It. For. Me.

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I like this

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She’s so funny!

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😂😂😂

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Sundry thoughts on episode 12 of Dinner Mates in the comments below:

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    1.) I don’t like swearing on this website, but Jae-hyuk is honestly a fucking bastard and Noe-ul is a fucking bitch. I hate these two characters so much. I don’t want them redeemed and I refuse to extend an ounce of sympathy to either one of them, even though I know that is vaguely the direction in which this drama seems to be going.

    2.) I’m so frustrated with Geon-woo. He should just stop abetting No-eul and Jae-hyuk. Same with Do-hee’s mom, although she seems to be coming around to Do-hee on this. It’s fucking disgusting that all these people are (intentionally or not) helping these two trash exes as they behave in the most appalling, inexcusable fashion. It’s just not right.

    3.) Do-hee, please don’t go in the direction of noble idiocy. Please.

    4.) I don’t like that Do-hee didn’t tell Hae-kyeong what actually happened in the apartment. I know she wasn’t being malicious and was only trying to do what she thought was best, for Hae-kyeong and for Jae-hyuk. But I feel like Hae-kyeong is a character who really values honesty.

    5.) I don’t like Jae-hyuk’s backstory. It just seems like a typical tortured chaebol story. I also hate that Geon-woo seems to think Jae-hyuk’s sob story background entitles Jae-hyuk to sympathy and, perhaps, to understanding from Do-hee. It doesn’t. He’s a creep, a stalker, a harasser. He’s forcing himself on a woman who doesn’t want him. Fine, he’s mentally ill and he has some struggles in his life. That doesn’t give him any right to torture Do-hee.

    6.) I love Ah-yeong and Keanu! They are so cute!

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I like how every step feels significant for Do-hee and Hae-kyeong. Something as simple as lowering speech becomes so cute as a result.

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45 minutes into episode 12. Ugh, Do-hee. You can\’t do this. You have to avoid giving him even the slightest signal that can be misinterpreted.

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Argh Geon-woo. I know you\’re just trying to help, but somebody like Jae-hyuk will just take your deliberate omission and turn it into a reason why Do-hee isn\’t \”really\” over him.

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    Geon woo is really crossing the line here.
    The way he calls do hee everytime something happens to Jae hyuk is annoying and he knows she’s dating another person presently and him telling do hee about Jae hyuk’S family story. It was soo wrong of him! Almost everything he’s doing is wrong IMO!

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Five minutes into episode 12 of Dinner Mates. Oh Do-hee. Don\’t lie. Please don\’t lie.

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Lee Min-ho summarizes all my feelings about Jin No-eul and Jung Jae-hyuk:

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