So… I’ve caught up on Red moon blue sun; was afraid of the too many spoilers plus I needed some bitterness to compensate for the over-sweet developments in Encounter.
As expected, the EunHo-Aggassi similarity was there for a reason. Still the parallels with Achiara ended up unexpectedly close, at least in the serial killer part of the narrative. I wonder what this means for the personal family history part of the story and GGD.
I found EH’s comment on the luxury of certainty being something reserved to those who haven’t experienced true suffering rather ironic: Red Cry’s vigilante justice failed to be any justice at all precisely because he could not see his victims (Hana’s mother in particular) as people who are themselves suffering. He did what he did with the certainty that he was saving kids and that was all that mattered.
Achiara was pretty good, although it would lose in direct comparison to Red moon blue sun. The writing is great, but the execution is a bit clunky, and the main was pretty poorly acted imo. I watched all of it in one sitting a couple of weeks ago because I was so much in awe with the show that i got curious about the other work of the same writer.
And now Red moon, Blue sun turned out to be utterly disappointing too! No? I mean, who does this kind of easy-to-catch mysteries anymore? If the red herrings turn out to be NOT red herrings, would you praise the drama for reverse psychology, or would you call it lousy?
I was pretty pissed off and aghast at the “big” revelation, and I didn’t feel an ounce of anything for Eun-ho anymore because of the execution. Well other than at that “room with a table” memory part.
This drama could’ve been so much more.
Don’t you feel the same?
@peony
I did not think the reveal was much of a coup-out. But the spiel of the killer being in the eye of the police in the beginning, then labeled a red herring only to turn out that it was him all along was more effective in Achiara. Because there for a large chunk in the middle of the story the killer was made to look like a really nice guy. Here it did not work as well because I could never warm up to Eun Ho (partly the fault of the writing, partly of the actor – he looks the blank psycho part too well, and there was little nuance in his performance). I don’t feel robbed or disappointed because I was half-expecting it and it made sense. One interesting twist possibly still to come is that Red cry is not a single person, but a shadowy organization and if the death of it’s original founder and initial members did not stop the killing, I doubt EunHo’s death will. And there’s still a lot to learn about the girl in the green dress and all those family secrets. What I should say, based on Achiara, is that even when what seemed to be the biggest secret was revealed, nothing was ever exactly as it seemed; there were nuances and twists until the very last second. I expect the same here and I’ll tune in again next week for it.
The fun thing is, I hate this revelation for the exact teason you do not hate it- that I’ve been expecting it. Yes, it wasn’t executed well enough, and becaused they toyed with us too much on the idea of is-he-or-is-he-not, we ended up having zero time to feel empathy for the character. Just when I started to connect to and pity Eun-ho’s backstory, this happened. Followed with the typical and classical complete voiceover confession by the villain. i expected something more from the drama.
Judging from what you’ve said about Achiara, seems like I’ll love it more than this. Thanks for the info. 🙂
Let’s see whether the story redeems itself in the next 3 eps to come. 😉
EunHo-Agasshi parallels:
– both abandoned by their mother
– both justify their actions positively (giving happiness/ saving children)
– smart and likable, though also a bit weird
– good relationship with main female character
– initially negative, later ambivalent relationship with main cop
– both kidnap and try to kill heroine
EunHo’s story was much better rounded in terms of making sense his actions, Agasshi was more likeable in the middle part of the show, making the reveal more shocking. Here I kind of saw it miles away.
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CHARLIE
January 4, 2019 at 4:05 PM
So… I’ve caught up on Red moon blue sun; was afraid of the too many spoilers plus I needed some bitterness to compensate for the over-sweet developments in Encounter.
As expected, the EunHo-Aggassi similarity was there for a reason. Still the parallels with Achiara ended up unexpectedly close, at least in the serial killer part of the narrative. I wonder what this means for the personal family history part of the story and GGD.
I found EH’s comment on the luxury of certainty being something reserved to those who haven’t experienced true suffering rather ironic: Red Cry’s vigilante justice failed to be any justice at all precisely because he could not see his victims (Hana’s mother in particular) as people who are themselves suffering. He did what he did with the certainty that he was saving kids and that was all that mattered.
Peony
January 4, 2019 at 11:54 PM
Which episode are you watching?
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Unrelated, but umm, it’s ajusshi not agasshi. The latter means young lady!🤗
CHARLIE
January 5, 2019 at 3:18 AM
i did mean agasshi: the serial killer character in Achiara, who was also a transvestite hence the nickname.
Peony
January 5, 2019 at 5:15 AM
Oooh. Sorry for misunderstanding! I didn’t watch Achiara. Was it a good drama just like this one?
CHARLIE
January 5, 2019 at 5:19 AM
Achiara was pretty good, although it would lose in direct comparison to Red moon blue sun. The writing is great, but the execution is a bit clunky, and the main was pretty poorly acted imo. I watched all of it in one sitting a couple of weeks ago because I was so much in awe with the show that i got curious about the other work of the same writer.
Peony
January 5, 2019 at 8:23 AM
And now Red moon, Blue sun turned out to be utterly disappointing too! No? I mean, who does this kind of easy-to-catch mysteries anymore? If the red herrings turn out to be NOT red herrings, would you praise the drama for reverse psychology, or would you call it lousy?
I was pretty pissed off and aghast at the “big” revelation, and I didn’t feel an ounce of anything for Eun-ho anymore because of the execution. Well other than at that “room with a table” memory part.
This drama could’ve been so much more.
Don’t you feel the same?
CHARLIE
January 5, 2019 at 8:36 AM
@peony
I did not think the reveal was much of a coup-out. But the spiel of the killer being in the eye of the police in the beginning, then labeled a red herring only to turn out that it was him all along was more effective in Achiara. Because there for a large chunk in the middle of the story the killer was made to look like a really nice guy. Here it did not work as well because I could never warm up to Eun Ho (partly the fault of the writing, partly of the actor – he looks the blank psycho part too well, and there was little nuance in his performance). I don’t feel robbed or disappointed because I was half-expecting it and it made sense. One interesting twist possibly still to come is that Red cry is not a single person, but a shadowy organization and if the death of it’s original founder and initial members did not stop the killing, I doubt EunHo’s death will. And there’s still a lot to learn about the girl in the green dress and all those family secrets. What I should say, based on Achiara, is that even when what seemed to be the biggest secret was revealed, nothing was ever exactly as it seemed; there were nuances and twists until the very last second. I expect the same here and I’ll tune in again next week for it.
Peony
January 5, 2019 at 8:56 AM
The fun thing is, I hate this revelation for the exact teason you do not hate it- that I’ve been expecting it. Yes, it wasn’t executed well enough, and becaused they toyed with us too much on the idea of is-he-or-is-he-not, we ended up having zero time to feel empathy for the character. Just when I started to connect to and pity Eun-ho’s backstory, this happened. Followed with the typical and classical complete voiceover confession by the villain. i expected something more from the drama.
Judging from what you’ve said about Achiara, seems like I’ll love it more than this. Thanks for the info. 🙂
Let’s see whether the story redeems itself in the next 3 eps to come. 😉
CHARLIE
January 5, 2019 at 3:22 AM
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CHARLIE
January 5, 2019 at 3:56 AM
EunHo-Agasshi parallels:
– both abandoned by their mother
– both justify their actions positively (giving happiness/ saving children)
– smart and likable, though also a bit weird
– good relationship with main female character
– initially negative, later ambivalent relationship with main cop
– both kidnap and try to kill heroine
EunHo’s story was much better rounded in terms of making sense his actions, Agasshi was more likeable in the middle part of the show, making the reveal more shocking. Here I kind of saw it miles away.