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Romantic Doctor Teacher Kim: Episode 10

I’m so proud of all our doctors for making such great strides in their progress and teamwork to become caring and humane healers. It’s crazy how all of their painfully loud shouting matches and past confrontations now seem to have been so necessary for them to mature into the better doctors this episode has demonstrated them to be. After all the dramatic conflicts they’ve had to endure, everything jelled so well together this episode that I’m actually a little afraid for what will befall our heroes next.

 

 
CHAPTER 10: “Crush”

On their car ride back to Doldam Hospital, Dong-joo gently admonishes Seo-jung for abruptly leaving without a word and tells her, “Don’t ever do that again, Yoon Seo-jung.” In front of him, a large tanker truck is skewed sideways, blocking the highway, and Dong-joo slams on the brakes. When they get out of the car, they see that the entire road is littered with crushed automobiles and bodies.

Seo-jung calls 911 and informs them about the six-vehicle accident. Dong-joo pries the bleeding truck driver out of his seat, while another person crawls out of his car and hysterically insists that it wasn’t his fault. His passenger was thrown through the front windshield and died on impact, so Seo-jung and Dong-joo look for other survivors.

Back at Doldam hospital, Nurse Assistant Park throws a flying punch at the Geodae investigator who has been harassing Teacher Kim, leaving everyone shocked by the usually easygoing young man’s temper. Incensed by the assault, the investigator demands for his subordinate to call the police.

Nurse Assistant Park points out that the patient needs emergency surgery, and that Teacher Kim is the only person in the hospital to perform it, but the investigator insists that it’s all an excuse. He warns Nurse Assistant Park that he will be pressing charges for assault.

Another nurse dashes in and tells Teacher Kim that Dong-joo is on the other line with a mass traffic accident on his hands. Dong-joo apprises Teacher Kim of the situation, counting more than ten total patients who need treatment. Teacher Kim looks around the emergency room, seeing most of the beds occupied by patients on an already busy Friday night.

With a frustrated sigh, he starts issuing orders. He tells Dong-joo to send any pregnant women, children, and heavy bleeding patients to Doldam. For the rest, he tells Dong-joo that it is imperative for them to keep their body temperatures stable in the freezing cold, especially the unconscious victims. The truck driver opens his cargo hold to reveal boxes full of thick winter coats, which he then distributes to everyone.

At the accident site, Seo-jung discovers the original cause of the mass collision: the two drunken men who are still red-faced in their inebriated state. Around the corner, she discovers a road worker with excessive hemorrhaging and an open fracture on his lower limbs. She gives him her coat, while he whispers that he has a partner nearby in the same condition.

A woman wakes from her unconscious state to discover that her daughter in the back seat won’t wake up. Her frantic screams draw Dong-joo to her car, where he takes the pulse of the unresponsive four-year-old child. He suspects internal bleeding, and sends the pair immediately to Doldam Hospital.

In-bum, who was traveling on the same road to go back to Doldam Hospital, also sees the sideways truck and stops. A granny calls for a doctor when her elderly husband starts wheezing, and upon realizing that the car crash victims need him, In-bum jumps on the scene and starts taking decisive action. He provides the grandpa with a nebulizer treatment as well as oxygen.

When Dong-joo triages a female driver hanging upside down in her overturned car, she points out another man lying crushed underneath the drunk driver’s car. It’s the partner of the road worker Seo-jung found earlier, and she and Dong-joo work together to roll the car back so that they can extract their patient.

To keep him from bleeding out, Dong-joo offers his belt as a tourniquet, but they need another, because both the man’s legs are crushed. That’s when In-bum comes to the rescue with his belt. (Yay! My two favorite cuties finally working together to save a patient.)

At Doldam Hospital, Teacher Kim works at clearing the ER beds and calling in reinforcements for the imminent arrival of the traffic accident patients. The Geodae investigator asks Teacher Kim if he really wants to do this the hard way.

Since the investigator had put a restriction on all of Teacher Kim’s medical activities, having him treat any of the traffic accident patients would be a direct violation of orders. Teacher Kim asks the investigator whether he’s willing to take responsibility if any of the victims die, but the smug investigator just replies that this situation wouldn’t exist if Teacher Kim had complied earlier.

Just then, the crying mom accompanying her unconscious daughter arrive at the ER, rolling past the confrontation between Teacher Kim and the investigator. Spotting the investigator, the woman’s eyes grow large as she calls out, “Honey?” Straightaway, the investigator looks at the bed beside her and realizes that it’s his daughter who has just been admitted into the ER.

After wrapping up the most urgent cases, In-bum and Dong-joo get ready to go back to Doldam, while Seo-jung has been charged with staying at the accident site with the less critical patients. After she says goodbye, Dong-joo bids her to wait a moment, and takes off his coat to wrap around her. Seo-jung accepts it without a word as In-bum looks at the romantic gesture in half-bewilderment.

She goes to the police officers surveying the scene, as they wait for the drunk driver to finish throwing up beside his car. She asks how high his blood alcohol content was, but they say that he’s refused the test.

She jabs a syringe in the drunk driver right on the spot, taking his blood with precision and ease. She forcefully tells him not to drive after imbibing ever again, adding that it’s equivalent to manslaughter. When he asks who she is to tell him off, she replies, “I am the crazy whale of Doldam Hospital, Dr. Yoon Seo-jung,” and strides off.

Back at the hospital, the CT results for the investigator’s daughter show that Dong-joo was right – she has internal hemorrhaging that requires pediatric surgery. Only Teacher Kim can perform the operation, so he asks the investigator what he wants to do. Despite looking heartbroken at the prospect of his daughter dying, the stubborn investigator says that a rule is a rule, and that he must stick to his principles.

Teacher Kim shoves the investigator, calling him a useless fool. The doctor says that he will proceed to do his work despite any interference, and dares the investigator to try to stop him if that’s what he wants to do. He quotes his motto: “My one rule is to save the patient. No matter what.”

Dong-joo and In-bum arrive at the Doldam ER. Teacher Kim notifies them that he will be operating on the pediatric patient, while one of them has to perform surgery on the patient with Boerhaave syndrome.

When he asks the two who has prior experience with Boerhaave syndrome, Dong-joo hesitates, which gives In-bum the chance to say that he has done the procedure once through laparoscopy. Teacher Kim assigns Dong-joo to assist In-bum. This time, without a word of complaint, Dong-joo hurries off to prepare himself to help In-bum.

The suicidal manhwa artist (Shin Seung-hwan) watches the entire scene with wide eyes. Suddenly struck by inspiration, he rushes to grab a pen and a paper from the nurses’ station and starts to draw.

An EMT calls Seo-jung to say he has not been successful finding any hospital that will take the two road workers with crushed legs, so she tells him to bring the patients to Doldam Hospital.

In the doctors’ break room, Dong-joo catches In-bum in front of a laptop simulating the surgery scenario. He asks In-bum why he’s studying a simulation when he said he’s already performed the surgery once before, and In-bum responds that he’s just practicing. Dong-joo seems suspicious, but says that he will go to the operating wing to prepare first.

Before the investigator’s daughter’s operation, Dr. Nam gazes with a vulnerable expression down at the child, who he has just anesthetized. Teacher Kim asks if he’s ready, and he nods in response.

Outside, the investigator and his wife have a talk. His wife tells him that they were coming down to see him because his daughter wanted to see her daddy, adding that she wasn’t in the carseat because she had complained it was uncomfortable. Seo-jung rolls by the couple with her two emergency orthopedic patients on gurneys.

In the ER, Seo-jung and In-soo assess the two crushed limb patients and stabilize them until they can be transferred. Seo-jung asks a nurse to get Ki-tae to help them with the transfers, because he has some influence with the neighboring hospitals.

Seo-jung and In-soo then divide the rest of the patients between them. Finding the drunk driver on the right and the granny-grandpa couple on the left, she chooses to take on the left side of the ER. The investigator, witnessing Seo-jung and the Doldam Hospital staff working hard to help their patients, seems to have a revelation.

First, Seo-jung asks the grandpa whether his breathing has returned back to normal. He replies that it has, and he shares that tomorrow is actually his and his wife’s fifty-fourth wedding anniversary. After listening to his breathing, Seo-jung asks the granny whether she is suffering from any side effects.

The granny says that her heart is racing, and the grandpa tells Seo-jung that his wife has a weak heart. Seo-jung takes her pulse, which is a bit faster than normal, but the granny says that it’s probably due to the shock of the accident.

Seo-jung tells the granny to let her know if anything changes before leaving their bedside to attend to the other patients. When the grandpa asks the granny if their children have been informed, she replies that she told them, adding that he should rest until they come. He lies down, and she falls asleep beside him.

While Teacher Kim has his hands full with the pediatric surgery, Dong-joo and In-bum operate on the Boerhaave patient. In the middle of the surgery, sweat rolls down In-bum’s face when he can’t seem to locate the rupture, and he snaps at Dong-joo to pull the laparoscope back.

Both Dong-joo and Nurse Assistant Park notice In-bum’s tense stance, prompting Dong-joo to ask In-bum whether they should call Teacher Kim. But to Dong-joo’s surprise, In-bum firmly refuses, and ends up finding the rupture site. The rest of the operation proceeds smoothly.

Yeon-hwa, meanwhile, worriedly contemplates her fate at Doldam in the locker room. She gathers her things and is about to leave the hospital when she spies Dong-joo.

Having just come out of the Boerhaave surgery, Dong-joo interrogates In-bum, demanding to know whether In-bum lied to Teacher Kim when he said he had operated on a Boerhaave patient before. Caught red-handed, In-bum capitulates without missing a beat.

Confidently, he tells Dong-joo that the surgery wasn’t too hard, and since everything went successfully, it’s all right. Nurse Assistant Park comments that Dong-joo has been one-upped by In-bum this time, but surprisingly, this doesn’t throw Dong-joo into fits.

Yeon-hwa catches Dong-joo at the coffee machine without any change. Knowing how he likes his coffee, she uses her money to make him a cup, then hesitantly hands it to him. As he turns to leave, she asks whether he’s ever thought about quitting his profession, and how he endured during those moments.

With a reflective smile, he says that he thought of the years he had already put into this career path, which he didn’t want to waste. He adds that he also did not have the courage to explore something new.

Yeon-hwa asks if that’s his only reason, and wonders if he ever thought about his duty as a doctor, or his mission in healing. But he laughs, saying that he doesn’t know what that means yet, and that it will probably take more than ten years as a doctor to figure it out. He gets a call from the ER and heads off, and she stares at his retreating back with a different resolve in her eyes.

Upon arrival, Dong-joo asks Seo-jung what the situation is. She replies that the orthopedic patient who had been crushed under the drunk driver’s car is bleeding out because his blood pressure is rising. A nurse comes into the room then, and tells them that another patient has gone into cardiac arrest. Seo-jung goes with her, and finds the granny not breathing by her husband’s bedside.

She performs several rounds of chest compressions, but the heart rhythm doesn’t return. Watching Seo-jung pressing up and down on his immobile wife, the grandpa demands that she stop, because they have already signed a do-not-resuscitate to be implemented in a situation like this.

He puts his hands over Seo-jung’s and gently tells her again that it’s okay — she doesn’t have to do anything more. He lays down his head by his wife’s side, brushes her hair, and tells her, “You have been through a lot over the years.”

The ER patients, including the manhwa artist, regard the elderly couple with touching empathy. Tears drop down Seo-jung’s face, and Dong-joo draws near her, placing a hand on her shoulder to comfort her. Yeon-hwa, witnessing this tender moment, leaves the hospital. Later, Nurse Assistant Park checks her locker, only to find it empty.

Teacher Kim comes out of the ICU after checking on his pediatric patient. He tells the mother that the surgery was successful, and she thanks him profusely.

On his way out, the investigator stops him to ask him what he wants. Teacher Kim says, “Working hard in life is good, but let’s not live foolishly. Please don’t forget why you work so hard, and your reason for living.”

Taking this into his heart, the investigator gets an orthopedic surgeon from Geodae to come down to Doldam for the crushed leg patients. When Dr. Do is notified by his secretary, he calls the investigator incensed, but the investigator merely says that he did what was needed. With a relieved conscience, the investigator goes to stand by his wife and daughter.

Angered, Dr. Do telephones Dr. Song, who is currently at a karaoke bar instead of being at his job. When Dr. Do asks him what the situation at Doldam Hospital is, Dr. Song can’t give an answer because he is not there. Frustrated, Dr. Do hangs up the phone.

After everything has calmed down, Teacher Kim asks Nurse Oh where Seo-jung is. He still has not seen her since she left a resignation letter on his desk, but he realizes that she’s behind a hospital curtain, saddened by the granny’s passing.

Dong-joo holds out a mug of tea, and asks whether Seo-jung’s feeling any better. He tries to ease her pain by reassuring her that there was nothing more she could have done in that situation.

She wonders whether she is doing the right thing, and whether her best is the best for the patients, adding that in front of a dead person, her best doesn’t seem to be enough. At this, Teacher Kim pulls back the curtain and curtly tells her to follow him.

He leads her to another hospital wing, where her coma patient with the impoverished family has finally awoken. The patient guardians thank her with wide smiles on their faces.

Teacher Kim tells her, “The only way you know you’re on the right path is through the patients. You don’t have to take on the responsibility of life and death.” He then releases her from her position as an orderly, and reinstates her as a doctor.

Telling her not to cry, he chides her to go on into the room and look over her patient. Teacher Kim goes to his office, and puts her resignation in a folder containing all his students’ information as keepsakes.

When he turns around, he finds General Manager Joo from CEO Shin’s casino sitting in his office, reading up on his outlined plans. Alluding to them, she suggests that he should let CEO Shin know, and asks whether he’s already chosen the people he wants to work for him.

Nurse Oh interrupts them with an announcement that the orthopedic surgeon from Geodae has arrived. Teacher Kim orders that Dr. Nam be called, and that Dong-joo and In-bum assist as surgeons. He also wants Seo-jung to watch as a learning experience.

Right before they move the patient together, Dong-joo receives a call from Dr. Do that he promptly ignores. In the OR, Teacher Kim watches as Dong-joo and In-bum display flawless teamwork that makes him contemplative about his future plan.

The next day, Director Yeo arrives at work to find everyone asleep. The manhwa artist who has been drawing all night slams down a drawing in front of him, and says he’s giving it to the hospital as a show of his thanks for the amazing inspiration he received for his next webtoon.

Director Yeo enters the break room to pin the drawing on the fridge — which features the main players of the hospital staff as heroes, from Nurse Assistant Park to Teacher Kim — and sees all of Teacher Kim’s fledgling students and Nurse Assistant Park in deep, exhausted slumber.

Meanwhile, Teacher Kim has breakfast with CEO Shin, and boasts that there’s nothing else to worry about, since Seo-jung received a normal result on her psych evaluation, and because the coma patient she diagnosed has woken up.

CEO Shin, who had insisted on Seo-jung’s resignation, admits that things worked themselves out this time. However, he adds that Dr. Do is a determined fellow, and that Dr. Do will poke at Teacher Kim’s flaws until something gives.

Seo-jung wakes up from her much-deserved rest and starts her hospital rounds, but in doing so, she finds Ki-tae scavenging through Teacher Kim’s trash can. When she asks what he is doing, he flushes guiltily and claims that he is emptying the trash because Yeon-hwa has quit.

After he leaves, Seo-jung walks into Teacher Kim’s office, puts on some smooth music, and sits down on his chair. She finds a student card (Yeon-hwa’s?) on Teacher Kim’s floor. It reads: Gosan Medical School – Jang Hyun-joo. Teacher Kim arrives in his office, and it’s clear that he’s not pleased with Seo-jung’s intrusion as he snatches the card from her hands.

Upon receiving a call from Dr. Do, Dong-joo meets him at a teahouse and launches straight to the point as he asks what Dr. Do wants. Beating around the bush, Dr. Do asks whether Dong-joo likes his new car.

Only then does Dong-joo realize that the new car is a present-bribe from Dr. Do. He asks Dong-joo whether he views Bu Yong-joo as a good person, or a god-given genius surgeon. He boldly confesses that he wants to bring Dong-joo to his side, while back at the hospital, Teacher Kim orders Seo-jung out of his office.

 
COMMENTS

Oooh. Just as Dong-joo is acclimating to Teacher Kim’s ways, he’s been thrown a curveball by his old boss. Now that we’ve glimpsed how humble and empathetic he can be, the will-he-or-won’t-he-regress-to-his-old-ways conflict holds a deeper meaning, since this episode really showcased Dong-joo’s potential as a doctor. Sure, in the beginning he was a brash and arrogant jerk, but he’s learned to accept his limitations and take orders from others — including In-bum, who he’s always viewed as a rival. His talk with Yeon-hwa further demonstrated that he realizes he still has a long way to go before he becomes a fully mature doctor.

I wanted to pat both Dong-joo and In-bum for displaying so much growth. In-bum has always been somewhat of a tsundere (meaning that he’s an outwardly cold person with a heart of gold) and that part of him was highlighted here. There were glimpses of it before, ever since he performed that unauthorized surgery at Doldam Hospital because he was worried for the patient.

During this episode, as soon as he saw the traffic accident victims, he rose to the occasion and saved as many people as he could, even though first responders were already on the scene and he didn’t have to do so. This might be me reading too much into things, but as the heir to Geodae, his belt must have been an expensive brand name product, but he didn’t hesitate to lend it to Seo-jung when she needed it to use as a tourniquet. Despite his normally stoic expression, I’m convinced that Do In-bum comes from different stock than his father.

It was, however, the death of Seo-jung’s unexpected cardiac arrest granny that held the emotional climax and raised the most questions. What are you supposed to do when your best isn’t enough, or when your best still results in death? I thought the show took a unique approach to a question that has been asked time and time again in medical dramas. By having Teacher Kim advise Seo-jung to look to her patients whenever she felt lost, he helped ease her mind by lifting the weighty responsibility of the death that had burdened her.

Speaking of Teacher Kim, can we please talk about his mysterious “plans?” I’m curious as to what General Manager Joo saw in his papers. Sometimes it seems like Teacher Kim wants to take revenge on Geodae’s Dr. Do, and other times, it seems like he just wants to be left undisturbed at Doldam Hospital. But his eyes glittered when he talked to CEO Shin about building him a new hospital. So, how does assembling Dong-joo, Seo-jung, In-bum, and Yeon-hwa together fit into his overall plan?

If he is trying to create a medical top team (har), his philosophy — save the patient no matter what — is garnering him many unexpected allies, including the Geodae investigator and Seo-jung’s psych examiner. I, for one, liked that the lesson the Geodae investigator learned applies to all of us, and not exclusively to doctors. We shouldn’t lose sight of our reasons for working hard at living life. This show is really shaping up to be an insightful commentary on how to face difficult decisions and live without regrets.

 

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God the granny dying is what had my emotions spilling over the edge. I was so so happy to see our main characters working as a team because you could just see the passion and the fact that they were all relatively calm under immense stress and the sheer amount of patients while trying to fight off that investigator just really spoke to me. I'm an aspiring physician, and the emotions I feel through watching this and realizing that I could be in their place in the future both frightens and amazes me.

But gah, that scene with the granny and her husband. So, so, sweet and so, so heartbreaking. I'm still crying - gah of course the show just has to make it their 54th anniversary too </3

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On the other hand, I can't help but cry when Dr Kim showed that room to Seo Jung with the patient alive and smiling with his family :') That was the motivation that she needed at the time, and Dr Kim delivered!

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saaaaaame! both scenes made me teary eyed. ugh all the feelings tho!!

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Loved this episode the most! It was, really an episode that felt like it was written from the heart of a doctor, to the hearts of all doctors out there.

Tineybeanie you said what I wanted to say it better than I ever could about the emotional growth this episode for our characters. Made me feel like a proud senior or mama bear! ?

Loved Seo Jung in this because there were so many moments when I thought- I've been there, I've been her, I've thought the same things. And to see her realise that her work as a doctor does make a difference when she was a her lowest point was really touching. I teared up!

Kudos to the writer for this episode because I don't think I'll forget it for a long time to come, and I won't hesitate to recommend it to my fellow medical colleagues to watch! I really hope the show keeps it up! It deserves its high ratings!

My only tiny grouse is that I'm not feeling In Bum's character- his facial expressions feel awfully flat (to me) and I can't figure out what is going on with him yet. But I think it's just me, and I love the rest of the team enough that it doesn't really matter.

More thoughts blogged because this Show really makes me want to say a lot of things.

https://mydramalesslife.wordpress.com/2016/12/10/life-is-grand-when-you-have-a-crack-dramas-romantic-doctor-teacher-kim-episode-9-10/

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@Michykdrama - I really appreciate your excellent participation in the comments for this drama both here on Dramabeans and on your blog. It's exciting and comforting to know that a doctor (it seems there are at least two more commenting on Viki live comments) is adding her expert opinion to the scenes and medical procedures. Your commentary is adding enormously to my 100% enjoyment of this series. I feel like we're in good hands across the board - both in the fantasy world of dramas and the real world of physical and emotional medicine. Thank you!

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Thanks for the kind words lunatic4kd! I sometimes wonder if I ramble too much but I'm glad that you enjoy my occasional bouts of longwindedness! ?

Yes indeed, after a slightly rocky start this show has really found its groove medical wise, I barely had a quibble this week. The only amusing thing is that the writer decided to use the most bombastic impressive sounding jargon- to a point that I had to ask my husband and google 1 of the terms to figure out what the patient's condition was! Haha.

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@Michykdrama,

Enjoyed reading your blog and professional insights, as always. It tickles me that your Colleague A is grooving out to RDTK along with us Beanies, too. Daebak!

I appreciated the subtle public service announcements, too -- in particular the reason for using car seats for young children. I would venture a guess that graphically spelling out the consequences of not using one might make it more compelling and easier to remember. Not being a parent, I've never had to deal with car seats. Now I know why they are so necessary.

There is another angle to Kim Sa Bu's advice to Crazy Whale to look to her patients to see how she's doing as a doctor that I think bears mentioning: Granny's Do Not Resuscitate order (DNR). It was the heart attack patient's express desire that she not be resuscitated. Luckily, her husband of 54 years was present and able to tell Seo-jung his wife's wishes. But if he were unable to speak, she would have been up a creek. Wearing a medical alert bracelet would have made a lot of sense. In my mind, the DNR placed the ball squarely in the patient's court... and could have relieved Seo-jung literally and figuratively, although Writer-nim didn't address that aspect.

When my mother-in-law was jousting with the final recurrence of an inoperable brain tumor, her wish was to have hospice care in her home (in a different state from mine). She had a DNR order. I remember the hospice nurses impressing upon us the need to refrain from freaking out and calling 911 when the time came. My friend the volunteer EMT here in New Jersey explained that first responders are required by law to initiate CPR, which defeats the purpose of the DNR. Plus, calling 911 in such a case ties up EMTs whose services might be needed by another person. My $.02 from real life...

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Ooh @pakalanapikake thank you for sharing- I always love your comments and look for them each week! You bring up such good points- I have many thoughts about DNR so I will apologize in advance for the long post ahead. ?

I'm glad the medical staff took the time to explain to you and your family about how to ensure your MIL would have her DNR wishes upheld and that she took the time to discuss with you all what she wanted for her last moments. Where I am, the culture is very different and death and dying is still an extremely taboo subject.

This makes it very challenging for medical staff when trying to decide on care for patients with a terminal diagnosis. Doctors will always want to follow the patient's wishes, especially in matters of such importance (and nothing trumps dying for importance!). But when there isn't any decision made prior, and the patient is unable to answer, like the Granny, the decision falls to the next of kin to help decide what to do. Luckily for her she had decided and had her husband around to ensure her wishes were carried out. However this can get messy if there are disagreements, like in the case if the comatose patient, where the son opposes the decision of his mother and sister.

Fortunately this taboo is gradually being overcome and more are realising that talking about it actually helps bring closure and relieve the burden off their loved ones in the event of a crisis. Because choosing not to resuscitate is irreversible and akin to a death sentence- how many loved ones will chose this without knowing it was what the patient wanted beforehand?

In real life, even after the immediate danger period is over, the road to full recovery is often long and and very difficult, and sometimes it only serves to temporarily delay the inevitable end (unlike how it is portrayed in dramas where the recovery is miraculous and swift). And the person who has to suffer through all the pain, procedures and medication is the patient. So choosing to resuscitate may ironically actually be more painful for the patient than not. But I don't ever blame the relatives of the patient for wanting to try because it is an impossibly difficult decision to make and I never want them to feel guilty and regret later on.

I'm just glad for dramas and shows that bring up these topics so that people will know that these options are available to them and dare to talk about them. Now with so many life saving options available, but often at a high financial and physical cost, it would help us so much in being certain that what we are doing is truly what the patient wants. Because we can't cure everyone, but we can help make the end-of-life journey a bit less painful and hopefully give everyone a chance to decide for themselves.

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Thanks for all the sharing about DNR and the realities of it. I have learnt a lot!

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Aloha, Michykdrama...

*blushes*

Thank you so much. I'm so glad our paths crossed here at Dramabeans. Our conversations mean a lot to me. ;-)

I was hoping you'd weigh in on DNRs as I know the topic is a difficult one for many families to address. By talking about it here, we might just make it a little easier for Beanies and their loved ones to take the bull by the horns, especially when they get to hear a physician's thoughts on the subject. IMHO, having an Advance Care Directive could be considered an act of compassion towards medical personnel as well as one's kinfolk...

As with many other aspects of life, coming to grips with one's own mortality is a loaded subject. Better to do it at one's leisure before it's needed in a crunch. Even so, despite admiring how succinctly Hank Williams stated it in his final song, "I'll Never Get Out of This World Alive," I have to admit that I'm still dragging my feet, although I recently had The Talk regarding my wishes with my husband...

For what it's worth, I first read On Death and Dying: What the Dying Have to Teach Doctors, Nurses, Clergy and Their Own Families by Elisabeth Kübler-Ross, MD, when I was in college. Twenty years later, when my mother-in-law's brain tumor returned with a vengeance, my friend the EMT told me about a book that the nurses caring for her mother had recommended: Final Gifts: Understanding the Special Awareness, Needs, and Communications of the Dying by hospice nurses Maggie Callanan and Patricia Kelley. It turned out to be a lifesaver for me, especially in regard to helping her address unfinished business.

Rather than rehash it in this recap thread, here's the link to my response to rentenmann's thought-provoking comments on FANTASTIC which spawned two weeks' worth of discussion in Beans of Wisdom a while back. It continued in BOW: Sideburn amulets and army coffee on 11/06/2016.

http://www.dramabeans.com/2016/10/beans-of-wisdom-scarred-hearts-and-amnesia-proof-helmets/
9.2 PakalanaPikake October 30th, 2016 at 4:51 PM

I'd like to mention another item that my friend the EMT brought to my attention that has influenced me greatly regarding my Mother's case and my own wishes. Mother was 89, had been diagnosed with "probable Alzheimer's" fifteen years earlier, could no longer speak, and had significant osteoporosis. The idea of her ribs being broken during CPR horrified me. I'm pretty sure I brought this up in family discussion with her physician. To my way of thinking, it's barbaric to subject a dying person to having their rib cage crushed, especially if they have dementia and won't know what's going on. It's a whole 'nother ballgame if the patient is young(er) and otherwise healthy, and has good prospects for surviving to live a normal life.

I could very well understand why the granny in RDTK, who had a long history of heart ailments, opted for a DNR.

Thanks again, my dear Michykdrama, for your insights!...

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Thanks for sharing your thoughts here and on your blog. I do love how the show explores the extent of doctors' influence and (i.e. they are not judges, they do not have power over life and death) the emotional struggles resulting from that.

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Oops so sorry, keyed in my "name" wrongly. that comment should have been from me, and addressed to Michykdrama :)

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I loved this episode!

I think all medical personnel have felt the doubts of SJ... whether our best is really whats best for the patient. Are we good enough? But I think that its also important what Teacher Kim said before: we keep doing a good job without knowing the meaning of it... whats the use of becoming a doctor? I think thats why I feel no connection to In Bum... he's an excellent doctor, for sure, but he's soooo ...textbook? Maybe it's his blunted affect face. Hmmm

Not that I hate In Bum, he's an interesting character still, and I look forward to his revelations and growth.

I knew I would still find my President Dodo-brain dartboards useful. Aaargh.

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Blunted affect! Gosh it's been a while since I've seen those words but Yes indeed! That describes In Bum perfectly! Haha.

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Actually, I like IB's character in that how it is drawn. Among the young leads he's quite drama free n behaviour, yes, he is rude but just would prefer being left to his devices. Ali the others are hyper. The actor plays him with just these little facial moves it shows how he can connect if he wants to, but in his own seemingly detached way. He can veer to the wrong, as inciting KDJ to a fight, or right, like goading SJ to move her ass in the restaurant. And he's a very good surgeon, street smart. But that's OK. To survive, it's his defence mech which future will may set straight.

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Lol I have to agree that "blunted affect face" fits IB perfectly. I think that's because the actor is still very green that he has limitation in emoting. But that works rather okay with his role here.

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In-bum is so totally deadpan that I can only believe the character is written that way. Either that or he's a champion poker player.

It will be interesting to see if he comes out of his shell and starts to relax after he is out of Dr. D'oh's orbit long enough, and the sabre-rattling with Dong-joo ceases. Given the way he jumped when his father yelled at him in the hallway following his unauthorized surgery at Doldam -- and then was smacked in the face as Daddy Dearest left -- I suspect In-bum has learned to keep a very low profile. I look forward to the day that I can keel over in a dead faint when he cracks his first knee-slapper.

He seemed kind of mystified when Dong-joo gave Seo-jung his parka at the scene of the accident... as if the thought would never occur to him.

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Just watched ep 9 and realised that the drunken drivers in the car are singing to the song that hyun woo , joon young and yoon ki dance to at their karaoke session in my wife is having an affair this week. Don't remember it's ep 8 or 9 as this one. Pretty sure it's the same song.

Coming back to this series, I'm finding dr Kim so damn attractive, am still at 9th ep and he was the man. 8 n 9 really were his best so far. His voice, ie han suk yu's , his specs, n the C way he carries himself, a true romantic he is. With him around, how can sj like DJ , beats me. :)
If I had someone like kim , han suk yu as a senior , I'd fall for him, even though he is old! What ethics n practical intelligence this man possesses, apart from being a first rate doc surgeon, do such men exist? Sigh, I want to believe.

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Watch him as the great King Sejong in Tree With Deep Roots and you'll be a goner for this actor!

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Thanks for the recco lunatic4kd.
I've seen him in films and he is indeed very good. I recently watched the royal tailor that has yys as well, n he was ace.
I'll check out the drama when I get time , later, else indeed I'd be a goner, with lots of pending work. ?
The 4kd your handle, it's not kang dong I presume, if I may. Joo missing makes its abrupt :). Just asking. Hope you don't mind. And thanks for the drama.

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The drunk drivers are singing "Cheer Up" by Twice.

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Isn't it the same.. Thanks for the song.

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Marathon-ed all the episodes this Tuesday and I'm so glad I'm on this ship!

I miss medical dramas and I miss YYS! This episode made me cry because of granny and granpapa. How sweet and heartbreaking was that?? ??

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I NEED MORE SCENES WITH OUR OTPPP

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Yay! Lucky a truck full of AIGLE jackets got involved in the accident.

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Initially, I mistook it for the Truck of Doom - but it was his kind cousin, the Truck of Winter Coats.

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That investigator had me gaping at the screen, literally with jaw hanging open, because I just can't believe he made that choice. Rule over kid? Really? Does such men exist? It simply was ego at this point. Or I just have to believe it as a plot point, I was already rolling my eyes when the kid, turned out to be his daughter. Of course. Lol.

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@hyyangi Yes! I rolled my eyes too that it turned out to be his daughter, which was all too convenient.

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I was ready to put my hand into my computer screen and punch him too! Yay for Assistant Nurse Park! Why isn't the magic tablet from W available when we need it?

Frankly there were things I wanted to say to the investigator when he claimed that they were merely making an excuse when Teacher Kim wanted to operate on the emergency patient earlier on.

"If it's an excuse, then pls find a surgeon to do the op! Go get Dr Kang who is away on a legitimate errand; or your beloved Dr Do is on personal leave; how about Dr Yoon who has resigned- but even if she was around, she is supposed to have PTSD and can't function as a doctor, much less operate on someone; or how about dear Dr Song? Oh yes, Dr Song - the chief surgeon from the remarkable Geodae Hospital, who is supposed to be in charge today but is nowhere to be found cos he has gone AWOL! Please find him quickly so that he can do the op before the lady dies! Then tell me that the medical staff at Doldam are making excuses!"

I also wanted Teacher Kim to tell him that he couldn't operate on his daughter cos he has been suspended. Thankfully, Teacher Kim is more admirable n noble than I. I love his advise to the investigator: While it is good to work hard, we should never forget who we are working for n the reason why we are living.

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I don't what exactly Teacher Kim's plan is (maybe he wants to build his own hospital just like he cryptically said before to the CEO?), but I hope the Chinese Doctor will join the team later. I want to see her back.

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glad to see im not the only one whose actually rooting for this chinese lady.

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There was so much dream team feel in this episode that it almost seems as if something huge is going to come to put our "dream team" to the test. Nonetheless, it's so heartwarming to see the whole team come together as everyone in Doldam has really experienced much growth, arguably even Master Kim. I'm glad to have more insights into his plans and to see that we're going to find out more about his backstory, because it's been quite a while.

I personally wasn't too convinced by President Do's co-opting of Dong Joo into his plans, because I can't really see why Dong Joo would even consider working with him. President Do has treated Dong Joo poorly. There's also too much for Dong Joo at Doldam for him to give it all up. Nonetheless, I'll be keen to see how the show establishes that conflict in a convincing manner.

Shared more thoughts on:
https://kdramaanalysis.wordpress.com/2016/12/07/romantic-doctor-teacher-kim-episode-10-crush/

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tineybeanie,

Thanks for your recap and comments.

Re: the ID card that Seo-jung found on the floor behind Kim Sa Bu's desk, it's dated 1998. I think it belonged to his student who died under Dr. Song's hand on the operating table.

As for Yeon-hwa, I'm itching to find out what gives with her. Will Kim Sa Bu send a search party after her now that the Friday night excitement in the ER has died down? I hope so. Actually, I have a feeling that Nurse Park might look for her when he's off duty.

In-bum aka Dr. Avis ("We Try Harder") is turning out to be quite a character in his own deadpan way. He really is hard to read, and reminds me a bit of Lee Young-O in BEAUTIFUL MIND and Park Do-Kyung in OHYA. I have to give him credit for stepping up to the plate for the laparoscopic Boerhaave surgery... and just as many kudos to Dong-joo for not making a federal case of it. Maybe these two will end up with a friendly rivalry that will bring out the best in both of them, but without messy and unproductive one-upsmanship. At least I hope so.

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Federal case ???

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Amazingly enough, Federal is not capitalized...

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/federal%20case

(signed) Philadelphia lawyer ;-)

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*gets off high horse*

Let me try this again. The phrase federal case is not capitalized, per Merriam-Webster.

*slinks back to Philly*

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I'm so proud of Dong Joo in this episode! Previously, I was shouting at my screen at his immature actions, but now, he matures. :') Let me wipe off my tears. I'm glad that the drama did not try to make Dong Joo 'perfect' immediately after he realised Teacher Kim was the doctor who inspired him because that's not gonna be realistic. Instead, the drama allows Dong Joo to mature on his own and correct his past mistakes. That smile on Teacher Kim's face after Dong Joo agreed to assist Do In Bum is just so cute - he's proud of Dong Joo too. :) Aww. Double aww when he kept his students'/disciples' resignation letters too, especially Dong Joo's resignation letter since Dong Joo was being a jerk at the start and Teacher Kim did not seem to like him at all.

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I liked that Dong Joo hesitated a little before saying that he'll go prepare for the op. Makes the change more natural.

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What that little hesitation indicated to me was that Dong-joo engaged his brain before he engaged his mouth. Hooray for progress!

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???? your comments about KDJ , spot on , n funny, PakalanaPikake

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his behavior made sense because of the hesitation. im proud of what he did. i actually replay the scene thrice. hah

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I really hope that the following will addressed in the next ep:
1) Dr Song's irresponsible act or going AWOL when there are no other surgeons around, except for (suspended) Kim Sabu. If he doesn't get disciplined, I'll be furious cos they recreated such a fuss over Seo joon n Kim Sabu!
2) The Chinese girl...hopefully they'll get her back or at least give us some back story.
3) The drunk driver.
4) I also want Nurse Oh's back story. How did such a talented nurse end up in Doldam?

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Agreed to all the points especially 2 and 4. There was something I read in the forums too about Nurse oh being divorced from Manager Jang. Has that already been mentioned in the show? I recall reading that it was mentioned in an interview early on.

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Yes -- it was mentioned in the conversation they had after the sickle incident in the OR, but it might have depended on which subtitles you read. I watched episode 8 on KissAsian and OnDemandKorea.

Starting @28:07 of ODK version:

Chief Jang: Do you know how worried I was? My heart was... about to burst, you know?

Nurse Oh, sighing after gulping a swig of water: Why? Did you really think... I was going to die in there?

Chief Jang: Don't say that. You really don't know how I feel. You really don't.

Nurse Oh, exhaling: That's why I married... and divorced you.

Chief Jang: Myeong-sim.

Nurse Oh, growling: I thought I told you not to call me that in the hospital, Manager.

Chief Jang: Chief Administrator. I've been promoted, you know?

Nurse Oh: I'm tired. I think I'll go rest.

Chief Jang: Oh, is that so? But what about the hospital?

Nurse Oh: You have those people from Geosan. Make them take care of it. I'm leaving early today.

Chief Jang: As heartless as always.
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All I can say is, what an unlikely pair... But it's not clear to me that Nurse Oh came to Doldam because she was married to Paper-Pusher-in-Chief Jang. I think she may have been there first, since she said she's been working there for 18 years.

I'm getting the feeling that Chief Administrator Jang is a Romantic Bureaucrat of the emotional, not idealistic, variety. When he's not hung up on his job title.

I hope we learn more about her. Since we're just arrived at the half-way point of the show, there should be time for that revelation.

I'd like to know what gives with Nurse Park, too.

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Correct me if I'm wrong. I think that Kim Sabu was suspicious of YJ being in his office. CEO Shin had just warned him about President Do's determination to get him...and then he sees YJ in his office, sitting on his chair with his former student's ID in her hands. I certainly hope that he doesn't think she's on President Do's side!

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@crazyahjummafan

I thought Teacher Kim was just particularly sensitive about his former student because President Do literally got her killed just so that he could expel Teacher Kim from Geodae (i.e. her death during totally unnecessary surgery performed by Dr Song was blamed on Teacher Kim). But your theory sounds pretty plausible too. After all, Teacher Kim's three proteges are all linked to President Do in some way or another, so he has every reason to be wary of them.

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I suspect that Kim Sa Bu is PO'd that his privacy has been invaded, first by Chairman Shin's lieutenant, and now by one of his subordinates. I hope he doesn't have a stroke if (big if) Seo-jung finally speaks up in her own defense and tells him that she surprised Dr. D'oh's anointed Chief Dumpster Diver Jang digging through his paper shredder's waste basket (which he ran off with).

The track playing on the tape deck is Cyndi Lauper's original version of "True Colors" (egads! from 1986! Where did 30 years go?!)... The lyrics are apropos on many levels:

You with the sad eyes
Don't be discouraged
Oh I realize
It's hard to take courage
In a world full of people
You can lose sight of it all
And the darkness inside you
Can make you feel so small

But I see your true colors
Shining through
I see your true colors
And that's why I love you
So don't be afraid to let them show
Your true colors
True colors are beautiful,
Like a rainbow

Show me a smile then,
Don't be unhappy, can't remember
When I last saw you laughing

If this world makes you crazy
And you've taken all you can bear
You call me up
Because you know I'll be there

And I'll see your true colors
Shining through
I see your true colors
And that's why I love you
So don't be afraid to let them show
Your true colors
True colors are beautiful,
Like a rainbow...

(songwriters: Billy Steinberg and Tom Kelly, who wrote Madonna's "Like a Virgin")
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/cyndilauper/truecolors.html

The feeling that I'm left with was that Kim Sa Bu's late student may have been more than a professional protege. Go back 15 years, and he would have been in his mid-30s... about the age Dr. Moon was when he proposed to Seo-jung. Was she the love of his life? It was bad enough that Dr. D'oh in essence put a hit out on her... but maybe there's more to the story. What did Chairman Shin just say about D'oh's modus operandi of targeting his enemies' vulnerabilities and taking away allies? I'm still wondering what went down between D'oh and Kim to make the former so viciously vindictive.

When I think of Kim Sa Bu, the song that comes to mind is "Solitary Man," although not necessarily vis-a-vis romance, but with regard to the practice of medicine being his life. He literally doesn't seem to have much of a life outside of Doldam Hospital.

Neil Diamond - Solitary Man - 1971
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti2lJ8V0aX0

This live performance came five years after the song became Diamond's first hit. His intensity reminds me very much of Han Suk-Kyu's performance as Kim Sa Bu. Like his contemporary Jimmy Webb, Neil Diamond penned many songs that not only became '60s hits, but standards that have stood the test of time.

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I said the previous episode was good, but this one was even better!

I loved seeing In Bum, Dong Joo, and Seo Jung working together as a team like in the first recap photo. Everyone is stepping up!!

The serious car wrecks and medical emergencies always get to me. I'm just holding my breath every time, waiting and hoping for the victims to be saved.

I feel like Manager Jang is going to betray the Doldam family. :( Initially, I thought he was okay....a little quirky. He had tried to boost Doldam up to gain more funds, recognition, and support. But now, I think he wouldn't hesitate to leave Doldam behind if he could be promoted to a better job or a different higher-ranking position. He's been sneaky lately.

I'm curious about Dr. Nam after his expression seeing the pediatric patient. Did he lose a child? Did he have a wife? Hoping we will get to see more backstory on him and Nurse Oh.

The elderly couple made me cry. Their scenes were sad, but sweet. Seo Jung seeing her coma patient also made me cry. So precious.

The Geodae investigator was frustrating and unbelievable when he was against Dr. Kim performing the surgery for his own daughter. But ohmygoodness, he stepped up when he called in the orthopedic surgeon!!!

Love Teacher Kim's lines. :) “Working hard in life is good, but let’s not live foolishly. Please don’t forget why you work so hard, and your reason for living. SO GOOD. ;A;

Yeon Hwa is still a bit of a mystery. I'm a little more curious about her now. Maybe she was a med student, wondering about her career? Why was she in Korea? Was she running away from her job or taking a break? I feel like she will make a reappearance later in the show.

Dr. Song needs to be punished for abandoning his duties at the ER. He was so irresponsible and disgusting.

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I agree that Grand Poobah Jang is looking mighty suspicious. Say it ain't so... If he does sell out, I have no doubt that Nurse Oh will "moider da bum."

As for Dr. Song's dereliction of duty, keelhauling is too good for him.

I’m curious about Dr. Nam after his expression seeing the pediatric patient. Did he lose a child? Did he have a wife? Hoping we will get to see more backstory on him and Nurse Oh.

I noticed that look of Dr. Nam's, too. I also wondered if he'd lost a child... is divorced, or maybe never had the opportunity to have a family. Is is possible that he was paying extra attention because the patient is a small child? Maybe our resident anesthesiologist, Michykdrama, can enlighten us. ;-)

He and Nurse Oh seem to be friendly in a very discreet way.

Re: Dr. D'oh's attempt to co-opt Dong-joo, it wouldn't surprise me if he hands him his car keys and leaves. At least that's my fantasy of his response. He's already told Seo-jung that he's decided to stick around at Doldam to find out why she missed him for five years... and now he has even more incentive.

OTOH, D'oh is such a slimy so-and-so that he'll probably threaten Mom and her mandoo parlor, and maybe Seo-jung as well. I don't put anything past him. If he does threaten him, I hope Dong-joo talks with Kim Sa Bu and the senior colleagues and does not try to solve it on his own.

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Best episode of the drama so far for me. It got everything right: the emotional scenes with the old couple, a plot filled with tension, a lot of character development (for Seo Jung. the chinese girl), few unexpected twists, the drawing, etc...

If only the writing could be on this level in a more regular basis, because that's clearly the show i want to watch.

Seo Jung is still a damsel in distress but she's growing on me, if only because she's showing a more fighting spirit.

Nurse oh is a goddess and Master Kim is the only male character on equal foot with her.

I really don't care about the other male leads: Dong Joo and In Bum and their competition, however as long as they're useful for the plot, i won't hate them.

I'm the only one who is absolutely convinced that Seo Jung and Master Kim are father and daughter? Sounds too obvious for this theory to not have been discussed already but i didn't read all the recaps.
Anyway since episode 8 and the emphasis put on the craziness of both characters, i have no doubt that it must be a genetic characteristic.

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I’m the only one who is absolutely convinced that Seo Jung and Master Kim are father and daughter? Sounds too obvious for this theory to not have been discussed already but i didn’t read all the recaps.

I'd considered it a while back and said so in one of the recap threads... but I can't seriously believe it. Kim Sa Bu is too young... unless he sowed wild oats in high school, and he doesn't strike me as the type. Also, IIRC, Seo-jung said her father was a college classmate of her mother's... so it might be someone Dr. D'oh knows. Someone over on the RDTK forum at Soompi posited Doldam's boss, Dr. Yeo, who is a classmate of D'oh's. Hmmm.

Maybe we'll find out at some point... although Seo-jung doesn't seem to be all het up about finding out. Perhaps her mother never informed her father that she was pregnant by him.

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I don't remember the age gap between the characters, but based on the age of the actors, i believe it's possible?

I'm not sure but it seems to me that Seo Jung said that her father abandoned her mother when she was pregnant. But the circumstances are very unclear in the show and it might have been left this way on purpose: to mislead us and leave an opportunity for a shocking twist.

I 'm not at all interested in the romance in this show, however i feel like it could be very rewarding plot-wise, if Master Kim and Seo Jung started to build a family bond only to discover afterwards that they are family.

And it would make their relationship even more special, especially considering how often Master Kim saved Seo Jung's life and career and how she was looking all her life for a fatherly figure (for me she's lying to herself when she pretends not to care about her real father, she's craving this kind of affection, support and recognition, and with a stronger intensity since the death of her mother as her relationship with Dr Do proved it).

I'd really like their mentor/mentee to take a center stage and to be more developed, a family bond might increase their chances to make it more important.

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Over at the RDTK forum at Soompi this evening, I was interested to read that Doldam means "stone walls." While that name signified coldness to some of the commenters, to me it implied a stronghold or fortress. With the invasion by the minions of Geosan/Geodae, Doldam Hospital feels more like the Fort Knox of Idealism.

I got thinking about casino General Manager Joo's snooping in Kim Sa Bu's plans for his dream and the people he wants working with him. Is she snooping on behalf of Chairman Shin, or is she in cahoots with Dr. D'oh?

Suddenly a name for the new institution presented itself: Hotdam Hospital... ;-)

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Does anyone else think it kind of strange that Kim Sa Bu would leave his office door unlocked when he was away from it? Especially given its remoteness from the ER, and the presence of snitches from Geosan. At the very least I'd keep all my important papers in locked drawers and filing cabinets.

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I find it to be in character for him: he trusts people with who he's working even thought he doesn't know them very well and is not the kind to lock doors based on suspicion and secrecy.

He has an open personality and direct relationships: if he wants to say something or to get something, he will say it or go after it in a clear way.

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