And to make it worse the last second comes a new family and when the mother calls their children to dinner the last face that you see is … DUN DUN DUN DUN… The Daughter!!! (But she has another name) So she says that she is going, looks at the camera and it end. And you stay there, watching in a state of WTF and then flips the table because God D*ammit!
I couldn’t reply as well! A msg kept saying I was using an inappropriate word and kept deducting 1 (-1) but I didn’t type anything weird so I think it’s a glitch.
YESSS! They always dramatised the last few moments of each moment so they can capture shocked looking faces and do that flashed over special effect. I’m just sitting there like ARGHH what is going on! Why is everyone so twisted and everything so interrelated? Flipping the table after watching a daily drama is like a national sport in my household. Everyone gets so annoyed.
And the characters are more indecisive than Dr. Dae Bang. I mean the “Let’s be a decent person, let’s be a human trash bag” kind of dilemma is a thing, befuddling yes, but I can get it (even when they switch back and forth and you must make a chart to keep right who is doing evil thing and who is a Saint every single week) but when “OMG, I am the Master of Manipulators and the smarter evil genius that has ever being evil” to “OMG what’s is 2+2… is the answer 23?… Joking I know that the answer is Rain” Like WUT? It’s just not a question of how no one see the obvious evil person that the he/she (most probably she, because that’s how must drama roll) is, the question is how does survives the everyday life when the character is SO dumb.
And everyone when is not batshit crazy will have the personality of a wet paper. It’s fact XD
You summarize it perfectly! Like I get so confused when they keep switching sides because they actually have a 10000068 step plan that requires a lot of manipulations, deals and side stories. The annoying thing is that the viewers don’t get to see the craftiness from the 3rd view and appreciate the planning, NAH we’re just dumped with all the angst and then in the last few eps are told it’s all part of the grand plan and that the ending will be good. Except the ending is too sweet, wrapped up in bows of forgiveness eg.amnesia, sudden character turn-around etc.
Your right about the personalities, such of the characters are so woefully limp and underdeveloped, they serve no purpose but legit furniture (Eg. Gook Du in SWDBS, he had so much potential but remained 2-D throughout). Also dramas always make the girl 2nd lead so crazy/scheming and out of the world that I’m just like now you’re practically forcing me to despise her with all this out-of-the-world unnaturalness. *shakes head*
Also, I love how we’re having this random discussion that sprung from noble idiocy! Interacting with other beanies is so fun! 😊
Right? I mean, discussing and poking fun at things that I begrudgingly love is one of my favorite things.
Everything that you say is so in point; one of the things that I love of new dramas is that, even if not a lot you would find Second Lead Ladies that aren’t really hateful (even if is not something as common as should be). Ex: Ri El in “I’m not a Robot” o Soo Ah in Waikiki.
And sometimes you would find the very few rarier species of k-drama seconds leads female that are in love with the hero AND aren’t the personification of evil (Shocking, I know!!! See, Drama Gods, you can make one lady in love with someone that isn’t in love with her AND don’t make her a total psycho) Ex: Shi Ho in Weightlifting Fairy Kim Bok Joo.
Sometimes they are very hateful but given that everyones hates them I start to love them just to spite the drama (that and most times the heroine kinda gets on my last nerve… Is so difficult to make a drama with two sympathetic -if sometimes very flawed- leading ladies) Ex. Rachel in The Heirs.
I’m all for Second lead ladies not being obsessive, crazy, manipulative or hateful because it’s not healthy and doesn’t occur as frequently in real life as in dramas. Adding to your examples: the lady from BTIOFL who went so far as getting the two leads together by giving love advice to them. She’d already moved on and so was in a happy place. Soo Ah did this too in Woohoo Waikik. Sure, initially she was self- centred but she was never hateful and she eventually grew more open.
I’m so glad Shi Ho’s story was resolved without any additional drama and Weightlifting Fairy remains an amazing drama to be cherished. They took such a simple story but made it so natural, organic and GRAND that I fell in love. Definitely one of the bests – I preferred it 100 times more than SWDBS because the friends trio (SWAG!) was amazing, parental relationships were spot on and the theme of chasing dreams were executed perfectly.
I agree with your last point – it may to do with writiers following the same generic tropes tho since I’m starying to see diversity in the story lines who knows maybe it’ll happy. I was so happy to start my 2018 with my first drama- Misty, that featured a morally grey, complex , unlovable- lovable female lead because I was so used to seeing candy heroines (with some exceptions eg Lee Yuri in Father is Strange who was a confident badass). So the fact that now there are more diverse stories are getting me really excited!
@fencejumper (Again I could not reply to your last comment so I do there XD). Yes, I mean, most dramas would make you believe that every other female that is not the lead is a she devil that hates her either because they like the same person and that person likes the lead or for another contrived reason (I mean, in a lot of this cases, I suppose that I could be a bit upset and very befuddled if the guy that I like/love/am obsessed with falls for someone that is more boring that what white paint dry but I would be like “Whatever, your loss” and not waste my time on them).
I loved the SFL in BTIOFL, she was wonderful and one of my favorites character. I kinda never forgave Se Hee’s family for treating her like they did, but I’m glad that she had move on because she deserved everything good for being awesome ❤❤❤.
WFKBJ was a very underrated (in Korea) gem. I loved it so much, and I liked every single character so much; the friendships were awesome, the families were great (the only one that was not was Joon Hyung’s biological mother, but she served her purpose: show that he had a precious family and loving girlfriend that loved him a lot), the SFL was a very nice, if somewhat flawed, girl that had a lot of pressure on her shoulders to be successful and, for the 99% of time was nothing but polite and friendly to Bok Joo and the leads were asajdlsad ❤❤❤ (Sorry, my brain kinda were overdrive… I love this couple sooo much)
Besides, another thing that I loved was that Joon Hyung was always kind and a good friend, but firm in the fact that he didn’t like her anymore, to Ji Ho, most leads either treat the Second Female Lady like trash or are wishy washy with them that you don’t know if they really love the female lead and both of the extremes makes me feel uncomfortable.
Joon Hyung was a sweetheart and Bok Joo was very relatable and their relationship was one of my favorite OTP’s.
I was very disappointed in SWDBS; I couldn’t watch more than a episode because I disliked pretty much everything about it, even when I loved the cast… so I’m probably not the best to talk about the drama XD (Probably is because I had so high expectations even months that it began and had such a similar premise to WFKBJ and when it did… yep, not my cup of tea XD). I mean, I’ve looked videos about Min Hyuk and Bong Soon because everyone was saying that they had really intense chemistry and they are very cute, yes (I mean Park Bo Young is impossibly cute and Park Hyun Shik is really handsome so… XD) probably the only reason that I don’t swoon about them is because I didn’t see the drama beyond the first ep (and I didn’t like Bong Soon very much).
Soo Ah is love, Soo Ah is life ❤❤❤ I adore her ❤ (Well, I love everyone on Waikiki but she was such a wonderful surprise… I never hated her but I never thought at the start of the drama that I would love her so much). Continue below
The first sympathetic Second Female Lead in a Korean drama that I saw was Lee Min Jung in Boys over Flowers but she was sympathetic in every adaptation so… (Well, besides I shipped Jan Di with Ji Ho and I thought that she made a really good couple with Joon Pyo, so that probably helped too XD)
I’ve heard a lot of praise to Misty yes, and I hope that the trend of making multifacetic leading ladies continue… However, I hope that they have a happier ending that her, even when I didn’t watch the drama her ending seem so sad.
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Vicki
April 16, 2018 at 11:09 PM
@fencejumper (I don’t know why I can’t reply your last comment so I replay you here)
Vicki
April 16, 2018 at 11:09 PM
And to make it worse the last second comes a new family and when the mother calls their children to dinner the last face that you see is … DUN DUN DUN DUN… The Daughter!!! (But she has another name) So she says that she is going, looks at the camera and it end. And you stay there, watching in a state of WTF and then flips the table because God D*ammit!
fencejumper
April 16, 2018 at 11:24 PM
I couldn’t reply as well! A msg kept saying I was using an inappropriate word and kept deducting 1 (-1) but I didn’t type anything weird so I think it’s a glitch.
YESSS! They always dramatised the last few moments of each moment so they can capture shocked looking faces and do that flashed over special effect. I’m just sitting there like ARGHH what is going on! Why is everyone so twisted and everything so interrelated? Flipping the table after watching a daily drama is like a national sport in my household. Everyone gets so annoyed.
Vicki
April 16, 2018 at 11:36 PM
And the characters are more indecisive than Dr. Dae Bang. I mean the “Let’s be a decent person, let’s be a human trash bag” kind of dilemma is a thing, befuddling yes, but I can get it (even when they switch back and forth and you must make a chart to keep right who is doing evil thing and who is a Saint every single week) but when “OMG, I am the Master of Manipulators and the smarter evil genius that has ever being evil” to “OMG what’s is 2+2… is the answer 23?… Joking I know that the answer is Rain” Like WUT? It’s just not a question of how no one see the obvious evil person that the he/she (most probably she, because that’s how must drama roll) is, the question is how does survives the everyday life when the character is SO dumb.
And everyone when is not batshit crazy will have the personality of a wet paper. It’s fact XD
fencejumper
April 16, 2018 at 11:57 PM
You summarize it perfectly! Like I get so confused when they keep switching sides because they actually have a 10000068 step plan that requires a lot of manipulations, deals and side stories. The annoying thing is that the viewers don’t get to see the craftiness from the 3rd view and appreciate the planning, NAH we’re just dumped with all the angst and then in the last few eps are told it’s all part of the grand plan and that the ending will be good. Except the ending is too sweet, wrapped up in bows of forgiveness eg.amnesia, sudden character turn-around etc.
Your right about the personalities, such of the characters are so woefully limp and underdeveloped, they serve no purpose but legit furniture (Eg. Gook Du in SWDBS, he had so much potential but remained 2-D throughout). Also dramas always make the girl 2nd lead so crazy/scheming and out of the world that I’m just like now you’re practically forcing me to despise her with all this out-of-the-world unnaturalness. *shakes head*
Also, I love how we’re having this random discussion that sprung from noble idiocy! Interacting with other beanies is so fun! 😊
Vicki
April 17, 2018 at 1:48 PM
Right? I mean, discussing and poking fun at things that I begrudgingly love is one of my favorite things.
Everything that you say is so in point; one of the things that I love of new dramas is that, even if not a lot you would find Second Lead Ladies that aren’t really hateful (even if is not something as common as should be). Ex: Ri El in “I’m not a Robot” o Soo Ah in Waikiki.
And sometimes you would find the very few rarier species of k-drama seconds leads female that are in love with the hero AND aren’t the personification of evil (Shocking, I know!!! See, Drama Gods, you can make one lady in love with someone that isn’t in love with her AND don’t make her a total psycho) Ex: Shi Ho in Weightlifting Fairy Kim Bok Joo.
Sometimes they are very hateful but given that everyones hates them I start to love them just to spite the drama (that and most times the heroine kinda gets on my last nerve… Is so difficult to make a drama with two sympathetic -if sometimes very flawed- leading ladies) Ex. Rachel in The Heirs.
fencejumper
April 17, 2018 at 9:21 PM
I’m all for Second lead ladies not being obsessive, crazy, manipulative or hateful because it’s not healthy and doesn’t occur as frequently in real life as in dramas. Adding to your examples: the lady from BTIOFL who went so far as getting the two leads together by giving love advice to them. She’d already moved on and so was in a happy place. Soo Ah did this too in Woohoo Waikik. Sure, initially she was self- centred but she was never hateful and she eventually grew more open.
I’m so glad Shi Ho’s story was resolved without any additional drama and Weightlifting Fairy remains an amazing drama to be cherished. They took such a simple story but made it so natural, organic and GRAND that I fell in love. Definitely one of the bests – I preferred it 100 times more than SWDBS because the friends trio (SWAG!) was amazing, parental relationships were spot on and the theme of chasing dreams were executed perfectly.
I agree with your last point – it may to do with writiers following the same generic tropes tho since I’m starying to see diversity in the story lines who knows maybe it’ll happy. I was so happy to start my 2018 with my first drama- Misty, that featured a morally grey, complex , unlovable- lovable female lead because I was so used to seeing candy heroines (with some exceptions eg Lee Yuri in Father is Strange who was a confident badass). So the fact that now there are more diverse stories are getting me really excited!
Vicki
April 18, 2018 at 11:28 AM
@fencejumper (Again I could not reply to your last comment so I do there XD). Yes, I mean, most dramas would make you believe that every other female that is not the lead is a she devil that hates her either because they like the same person and that person likes the lead or for another contrived reason (I mean, in a lot of this cases, I suppose that I could be a bit upset and very befuddled if the guy that I like/love/am obsessed with falls for someone that is more boring that what white paint dry but I would be like “Whatever, your loss” and not waste my time on them).
I loved the SFL in BTIOFL, she was wonderful and one of my favorites character. I kinda never forgave Se Hee’s family for treating her like they did, but I’m glad that she had move on because she deserved everything good for being awesome ❤❤❤.
WFKBJ was a very underrated (in Korea) gem. I loved it so much, and I liked every single character so much; the friendships were awesome, the families were great (the only one that was not was Joon Hyung’s biological mother, but she served her purpose: show that he had a precious family and loving girlfriend that loved him a lot), the SFL was a very nice, if somewhat flawed, girl that had a lot of pressure on her shoulders to be successful and, for the 99% of time was nothing but polite and friendly to Bok Joo and the leads were asajdlsad ❤❤❤ (Sorry, my brain kinda were overdrive… I love this couple sooo much)
Besides, another thing that I loved was that Joon Hyung was always kind and a good friend, but firm in the fact that he didn’t like her anymore, to Ji Ho, most leads either treat the Second Female Lady like trash or are wishy washy with them that you don’t know if they really love the female lead and both of the extremes makes me feel uncomfortable.
Joon Hyung was a sweetheart and Bok Joo was very relatable and their relationship was one of my favorite OTP’s.
I was very disappointed in SWDBS; I couldn’t watch more than a episode because I disliked pretty much everything about it, even when I loved the cast… so I’m probably not the best to talk about the drama XD (Probably is because I had so high expectations even months that it began and had such a similar premise to WFKBJ and when it did… yep, not my cup of tea XD). I mean, I’ve looked videos about Min Hyuk and Bong Soon because everyone was saying that they had really intense chemistry and they are very cute, yes (I mean Park Bo Young is impossibly cute and Park Hyun Shik is really handsome so… XD) probably the only reason that I don’t swoon about them is because I didn’t see the drama beyond the first ep (and I didn’t like Bong Soon very much).
Soo Ah is love, Soo Ah is life ❤❤❤ I adore her ❤ (Well, I love everyone on Waikiki but she was such a wonderful surprise… I never hated her but I never thought at the start of the drama that I would love her so much). Continue below
Vicki
April 18, 2018 at 11:29 AM
The first sympathetic Second Female Lead in a Korean drama that I saw was Lee Min Jung in Boys over Flowers but she was sympathetic in every adaptation so… (Well, besides I shipped Jan Di with Ji Ho and I thought that she made a really good couple with Joon Pyo, so that probably helped too XD)
I’ve heard a lot of praise to Misty yes, and I hope that the trend of making multifacetic leading ladies continue… However, I hope that they have a happier ending that her, even when I didn’t watch the drama her ending seem so sad.