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Under the Queen’s Umbrella: Episodes 1-2

Under the Queen’s Umbrella is billed as a comedy, but although it’s funny, this doesn’t quite capture its real strength: at heart, it’s an intense political thriller about a woman striving to keep her family alive. This show is a wry look at the difficulty of surviving as a woman at court, but it’s also plotty and creative, with more cutthroat political scheming than you can shake a stick at.

 

EPISODES 1-2 WEECAP

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QUEEN IM HWA-RYEONG (Kim Hye-soo) is a force of nature. She storms through the palace at breakneck pace, gulping herbal medicine pills like they’re the Joseon equivalent of Red Bull. When she catches her son fooling around with a courtesan, she drags the former straight out of bed, and brandishes a hairpin to the latter’s throat. She’s assertive to the point of recklessness with the formidable DOWAGER QUEEN (Kim Hae-sook), confident in her position as official wife amongst her king’s bristling flanks of consorts. (After all, what’s better than five sons and one wife? Ten sons, and ten wives! At this point, the king could start a marching band.)

However, if there’s one thing she’s sure of — and believe me, our heroine is sure of many things — it’s that her four youngest sons needn’t apply themselves too assiduously to their studies. Why would they, when she’s already raised the perfect crown prince (Bae In-hyuk), primed to ascend to the throne unchallenged? Therefore, when the King’s cadre of consorts squabble and clamor for their sons to shine in the Jonghak — i.e. royal school — it’s not too big a deal that the grand princes appear somewhat duller. Of course, this won’t stop our queen from sprinting across the palace to shepherd her embarrassment of sons into some semblance of decorum… or, at the very least, persuade them to show up.

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As for our band of miscreants? There’s PRINCE SEONGNAM (Moon Sang-min), a wild child who’d rather ditch everything to go riding. Then, PRINCE MUAN (Yoon Sang-hyeon), consummate ladies man, he of the unauthorized “friendship” with the courtesan, whose interest in his studies extends only as far as the odd seminar on sex education. There’s PRINCE GYESEONG (Yoo Seon-ho), a bookish young man who’d show promise, were it not for his carefree indifference to more or less everything. Finally, there’s PRINCE ILYOUNG (Park Ha-joon), who… well, frankly, I’m not sure what’s up with Ilyoung. Mostly, he just likes to sleep in. Relatable!

No matter. Our crown prince is the very model of a Joseon intellectual. He’s a dutiful son and loving father, who never saw a grade in his life that wasn’t tong — outstanding. Approximately none of this matters when he collapses to the floor, mid-conversation with his doting mother. Turns out, even perfect heirs have perfectly-kept secrets — and the Prince’s is deadly. He’s been steadily growing sicker over the past year, thanks to the same fatigue condition that afflicted his uncle, PRINCE TAEIN. Here’s the kicker: Prince Taein died of it. Informing the king is a road fraught with peril; Hwa-ryeong’s position, and therefore the safety of her sons, depends on the crown prince’s health. Best to stay discreet — for now.

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Meanwhile, the four grand princes face trouble of their own — though, for once, they’re not the ones who started it. Granted, it looks bad: PRINCE UISEONG (Chani), son of the honored CONSORT HWANG (Ok Ja-yeon), is sprawled out with a bloodied lip before them. Of course, Uiseong is also a sullen little brat who keeps spitting venom about the queen. It’s for her sake that the grand princes refuse to give a reason for the fisticuffs — resulting in a deeply disdainful Dowager Queen. She sentences the troublemaker princes to repent on their knees in the pouring rain.

Consort Hwang, for her part, is appalled… that Uiseong got caught. He has no right to insult the queen! Not yet, in any case. For now, she offers some loving motherly advice, in between lashes of a whip: keep your mouth shut and your priorities straight. If Uiseong surpasses the crown prince, he can crow to his heart’s content. Hwa-ryeong’s own maternal instincts are a little less violent, though no less fierce. She openly defies the Dowager Queen to rescue her sons from the rain — knowing that they may face worse peril in time.

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She’s right to worry: the Dowager Queen is chock full of tricks. With a member of the prince’s cohort at Sigangwon — i.e. royal royal school — soon to be sent on a diplomatic mission, there’s an opening. She coyly suggests that KING LEE HO (Choi Won-young) supplement his retinue with one of the princes.

At the ever-expanding meeting of queen and consorts — wife number ten dropped just this morning — Hwa-ryeong makes the announcement. It’s a blatant opportunity for advancement. The consorts stumble over themselves to petition the Dowager Queen for advice. After all, she accomplished what they could only dream of: though once a concubine, her son now reigns.

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It’s precisely this fact that’s been nagging at Hwa-ryeong. The precedent doesn’t bode well. When Prince Taein died, he had several living brothers. Yet, it is Lee Ho, son of a concubine, who achieved the throne. Is the Dowager Queen hoping to repeat history? It certainly looks that way: word is, she’s given out a secret book to at least one consort, detailing her special formula for the rearing of a king. (In actuality, she’s given one to every consort with a son.)

Still reeling from these machinations, Hwa-ryeong returns to the crown prince’s secret sickbed — only to come face to face with the Dowager Queen herself. This canny political operator makes herself clear: above all else, she seeks stability in the royal court. If that means promoting a lesser prince above one of Hwa-ryeong’s unruly sons — so be it. In short? Hwa-ryeong should watch her step. Her safety now hangs by a slender thread.

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How to protect her sons from this new peril? Well — knowledge is power. Hwa-ryeong determines to learn all she can about the last time the kingdom was in crisis… chiefly, the fate of QUEEN YOON, mother of the late Prince Taein.

It’s late at night when the queen ventures out, umbrella barely shielding her from the drumming rain. Even at risk of treason, she seeks out a deserted house where the deposed Queen Yoon (Seo Yi-sook) lives in exile. Keenly aware of the danger, Queen Yoon demands that she leave at once — but falters as Hwa-ryeong drops to her knees in the mud. She doesn’t know where else to turn.

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Queen Yoon’s story is a chilling one. Far from succumbing to illness, Prince Taein was supposedly cured before he died. Afterwards, everything happened with suspicious haste: Lee Ho was crowned king, Queen Yoon’s father accused of treason, and her sons… well, they didn’t last long. Queen Yoon made the same mistake as Hwa-ryeong: determined not to breed resentment amongst her children, she only trained the eldest to rule; the rest, she prepared for marriage outside the palace. As such, they showed no capacity for governance. Instead, the son of a concubine was chosen — after which, all but one grand prince died in mysterious circumstances. To save her sons from an identical fate, Hwa-ryeong pledges to be ruthless.

Elsewhere, the Dowager Queen continues to scheme: this time, alongside promising junior schemer, Consort Hwang. Once upon a time, Consort Hwang was the favored candidate for queenship — but the king, determined to keep his maternal relatives in check, married the humble Hwa-ryeong instead. The Dowager Queen regrets the fact that Uiseong has been sidelined as a result. Still, to judge by her pointed tree metaphors, she’s keen to make amends: the two establish, through careful code, that they’re not above — erm — uprooting the crown prince.

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Across the palace, the consorts subject their sons to the Dowager Queen’s finest exam hacks, most of which feel decidedly clickbait-y: Six Ways to Supercharge The Royal Brain… Number Three Will Shock You!. (Number three, by the way, is dunking him in saltwater every morning.) Meanwhile, the queen starts work on her own sons. The crown prince is now walking, talking, and doing his best to feign good health. However, the other four — blithely unaware of any threats — can’t understand why Mom’s being weird about this cohort business. Now, she’s asking about their schooling? Their interests? Yeesh.

Hwa-ryeong manages to impress upon them that they absolutely must, under pain of disobedience, apply for the cohort selection of their own free will. She commands them to choose to do so! Please! The trouble is, she can’t tell them the secret of the crown prince’s condition; they’d worry too much, and give it away. A quiet word with their tutor reveals that she has reason to fear: the four princes lack drive — especially Seongnam and Gyeseong, whose truancy is legend.

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Hwa-ryeong despairs. Seongnam, she’d expected, but Gyeseong? He’s supposed to be the bright one! Apparently, he’s been sneaking out on the sly — so, really, the only logical thing to do is to follow covertly. Hwa-ryeong, accompanied by the loyal (and long-suffering) COURT LADY SHIN (Park Joon-myun), shadows her son as he wanders through the lesser-trodden areas of the palace. He enters a tumbledown building, overgrown and abandoned. Here, Hwa-ryeong and Court Lady Shin take it in turns to peer at him through a gap in the door — and gasp.

Hwa-ryeong stumbles through the palace in anguish. Crying in panic, she flings herself into the one hiding place that has never failed her — the one place Court Lady Shin has always known to find her — a broom closet where she can cry undisturbed. Whatever she saw, it terrifies her to the extent that she fears for Gyeseong’s life. Court Lady Shin cries too; she wishes the queen would stop telling her her secrets. But then, who else could Hwa-ryeong tell?

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Meanwhile, the day comes for the princes to put their names forward for cohort selection. Of the four grand princes, Muan is the first. He’s hoping to recover a little of his honor… though, he’s also hoping they won’t make the exam results public. Seongnam, truant extraordinaire, is suffering a crisis of indecision — and with half an hour to go, he doesn’t have long. He decides to seek guidance from the crown prince.

It’s a visit that opens up more questions than it answers. The crown prince is nostalgic, longing for the days when he and his brother played — and picked fights they couldn’t win — as children. Seongnam, it seems, possesses hidden depths: above all, he has always tried to protect his younger siblings. Now, the crown prince wants him to promise to do the same for his son. When Seongnam asks why his brother is so somber, the crown prince doesn’t answer. All he asks is that Seongnam joins him as part of his cohort — where maybe it can be just like the old days.

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It’s the push Seongnam needs. For once, he arrives not late, but just on time, putting his name down for cohort selection. In fact, as Hwa-ryeong learns… every single one of the grand princes have applied. Delinquents they may be, but her sons have come through!

Next comes the exam. Privately, the king acknowledges that he’s not necessarily looking for academic excellence — rather, the ability to think outside the box. But, the fact remains that there’s a broad curriculum to conquer: books upon books, with more books to spare, which every single consort is determined to master. Tutors are summoned. Nosebleeds are suffered. Meanwhile, Hwa-ryeong resolves to do the heavy intellectual lifting on her children’s behalf: in the long night that follows, she takes copious notes. After all, as she tells Court Lady Shin (whilst mainlining herbal medicine) — it was hardly dumb luck and humble birth that led to her becoming queen. It was because she beat all the other candidates. Now? She’s determined not to lose.

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When she presents her sons with a vast stack of crib sheets, they waver. Seongnam in particular seems mutinous: is it really fair for his mother to give his brothers false hope, considering their abilities? She catches his sleeve. Quietly, she confesses that she cannot tell him why — but he must know she is doing this to protect them.

And boy do they need protecting. CONSORT GO (Woo Jung-won), convinced that Gyeseong has found a place to study in secret, follows him during his wanderings. Like Hwa-ryeong, she peers through the doorway. Like Hwa-ryeong, she gasps. Inside is Gyeseong, wearing makeup.

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An interesting couple of episodes! So, first of all, the good: I’m really happy to see a drama revolving around the dreaming and scheming of women in the royal palace. The queen or concubine who’s determined to promote her son is a classic sageuk trope, and it delights me how this show has chosen to humanize it. I like dramas where I can understand where everyone is coming from — hero and villain alike — and this one picks out everyone’s motives in beautiful detail.

At heart, it’s all about survival in a cutthroat court: for our heroine, sure, but also for the vicious Consort Hwang. At the end of the day, they’re both trying to preserve their position for the sake of their family. I love the evidence we see of our heroine weighing her options and choosing to be ruthless, without being vilified by the narrative.

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However, let’s address the elephant in the room: queerphobia. Already, the Gyeo-seong cross-dressing plotline has hit some unpleasant beats: most memorably, his mother falling apart and nearly vomiting at the sight of him in makeup. I’m sure the writers would argue this is a period-typical reaction, not a statement the show is making, but that ignores the fact that it’s a common transphobic trope. The dramatic build-up, the ominous music… it all feels pretty insulting. Moreover, if it turns out that the character is a trans woman, then I’m unimpressed by the fact that they cast a male actor. It’s not a great start, but I’m really hoping they do better next week. I’d like to see them be truly committed to queer visibility, rather than utilizing it for shock value.

So, all in all? A mixed bag. An intriguing mixed bag nonetheless. This drama is really compelling, and I’m already attached to the characters. It’s a huge cast, but they’ve used bold strokes to depict each of them. Hwa-ryeong, with all her stubbornness and drive, is a wonderful protagonist, and I can’t wait to see how she develops — especially when pushed into a corner. For all that her situation is desperate, it seems that pressure is where she thrives.

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@alathe thank you for the weecap, it has confirmed that this isn’t a drama I will be able to watch. I did want to follow the weecaps but it’s always the politics and risk of on screen killing that puts me off all but the rom coms sageuks which usually tone those elements down and this one is clearly going to have both on speed. However, It does sound like it is going to have much more nuance than the usual jealousy and evilness influencing the antics of the queen and dowager queen.

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Kim Hye Soo is solely anchoring this drama because all the other characters belong to a typical boring and tiring historical drama. The grand princes and the concubines + their sons are passable, but not interesting characters. If the upcoming episodes are going to have sparse comedy then I will probably be out because I was expecting something of similar range to "Mr.Queen" drama.

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I was thinking the same which would have made it one to watch and just fast forward through any violence or politicing but sounds like that would be the whole drama!

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How is the Joseon line of succession decided?

Won't the Crown Prince's son take precedence over the Grand Princes and princes?

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I think so but the Dowager Queen inferred that she planned to know kill him too.

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King Yi Ho will choose the next Crown Prince if his son the current Seja should pass away. It most certainly would be in consultation with his ministers and that is where the politicking probably would take place.
It seems Queen Im Hwa-ryeong has raised a crew of loving brothers who want to support their elder brother the Crown Prince. Early on we have an actual example on NOBLE Idiocy where Seja decides to withhold from his mother the news of his serious illness. Dumb.

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This drama has many layers.

Queen Im Hwa-Ryeong, King Lee Ho's mother and Consort Hwang are playing a serious game with dark and real consequences.

The other Consorts are out of their game.

The Princes are the poor pawn in the politics when they just want to be happy and free. It's so fun to watch them. Prince Hodong is so cute!

It seems that Grand Prince Seongnam is the most serious candidate. I liked the fact he had a previous story with the Crown Prince and it's his motivation. His ennemy will be Prince Uiseong who has a lot of support with his mother and some ministers.

I don't agree with the queerphobic complain. It's a sageuk so yeah, the Queen doesn't understand her son. It's normal. It's not like it was an adressed theme at that time and it will be a weakness for the Queen's family.

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I highly doubt this drama will be committed to trans visibility. It's a sageuk. Hwa-ryeong can't encourage Gyeseong to be his true self because it will get them all killed. They probably shouldn't have included the plot line because it was for shock value, but in theory, it could be used to mirror what is happening today, with the very real fear that transgender youth will get bullied or killed and their parents judged or even punished.

Ten wives and nobody had any girls.

I've always thought most of Joseon problems stemmed from King's having children with multiple wives.

It's fun to see Kim Hae-sook in different roles, but man, her character is quite evil. She's gung ho to kill her grandson and great grandson just because she wasn't picked as Queen years ago.

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I’m having such a hard time seeing Kim Hae Sook being a bad guy, she’s one of my favorite k-moms. I bet she’s having fun getting to play a different character.

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Usefull recap, it made me decide to pass this one by. As it is I’m tired of historical drama which imho suffer from too much sameness and Dorky Hats, it doesn’t seem this one is sufficiently different to give it a go!

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Thank you, @alathe, for the weecap! I thought this drama was going to be somewhat a comedy-saeguk, but these first two episodes had me dizzy with all the introductions of the princes and consorts! I'm giving this another week before I decide to continue or drop.

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I really like the first two eps of this dramaa! I was in for a good comedy saeguk (thought so from looking at the teasers), but turns out the drama is more on serious and dark side. But so far i'm intrigued.
So thanks for the weecap!! Though, the only thing that I disagree about is the queerphobic comment. It will be even weirder if the queen can accept the condition easily, especially during the Jeoson period and by the fact that the son is the grand prince! Of course it will cause some serious problems!
Curious to see how the story unfolds more~

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Agreed! I didn’t think it was queerphobic, in fact, the Queen committed to save all her princes REGARDLESS of the fact that one of her kid is queer. And it is a normal reaction for her time, especially considering that their lives are literally at stake in this context. Let’s see how this get addressed in the coming episodes before jumping on queerphobic bandwagon.

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I have questions. Can't the prince just be a cross-dresser? Does his enjoyment of cross dressing make him trans?

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Exactly

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What magnificent shots. However, this drama presents me with enormous challenges because I am so bad at remembering faces. A name tag for each prince would be ideal. 😉

I like the fact that the five princes get on so well with each other, probably because none of the younger brothers is interested in taking the throne, but would rather escape the court.

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I remember an old drama where the princes always wore the same color, one was always in blue and the other always in green. Jumong, maybe? It really helped. And there were only two of them!

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I don't know if it's because I already saw the actors but I didn't have difficulties to recognize some of them :
- Grand Prince Gyeseong : Yoo Seon-Ho was in the season 2 of Produce 101.
- Prince Uiseong: Kang Chan-Hee is the maknae of the kpop group SF9. He was in Signal and Sky Castle but this time it looks like he's really the villain.
- Prince Bogum : Kim Min-Ki was in Racket Boys and True Beauty.

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So far with only two episodes in Prince Bo-gum is my secret wild card. His mom comes across as a bit of a ditz but he maintains a certain dignity (and very importantly keeps his mouth shut). I am hoping he is a good guy (please writer-nim).
(O/T. I am a KMK fan from his work in RACKET BOYS a and LEE BANG WON.)

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Ahhh True Beauty! Kim Min Ki! Now I remember him. Glad to see him here.

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This weecap made the drama sound more interesting than whatever it was that I watched 😆. So kudos for that!
The point about queerphobia took me by surprise. Because I thought of it as queer positivity, that the drama included this character AND, please note: the queen's reaction is very normal and to be expected in the context. The dramatic ominous buildup is also well within the context, in my personal interpretation I did not feel it's distasteful at all. A very important point is: How the Queen treated the Prince *after*. She worried for him. She worried for his safety. She could've dragged him to her room and punished and reprimanded him but she did not. This by itself assured me that this character is a mother who genuinely cares for her children, first and foremost.
The depiction of a shocked parent upon discovering her child is queer is not queerphobic at all. It's only a starting point to build up that parent-child newly shifted dynamic. If the story ends with the parent still condemning the child *and* making the audience feeling like the scriptwriter too believes the parent is on the right, THAT is queerphobia.
Some of my favorite queer storylines such as Life is Beautiful (kdrama), Rice Rhapsody (SG movie) and the very similar arc to this, in Palace of Desire (Cdrama), all started similarly. With a shocked/disapproving parent and them all ended with acceptance and empathy. Therefore I am willing to give Under the Queen's Umbrella benefit of doubt.
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That being said, this drama has tons of other things that make me go 🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲 such as inconsistency in the tone of storytelling, also I find Kim Hye-soo's execution of a queen, well, super un-queenly🥲 etc

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Important: I'm not at all questioning the recapper, everyone has their own personal reasons and triggers to find something distasteful which are totally valid.
I'm only sharing how the drama made *me* feel❤

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I really enjoyed the scene where the Queen gathered her sons and urged them now to buckle down and prepare for the cohort exam. When they asked who annotated and marked up all the volumes on the table and she replied, “I did!”, their reply in one voice was priceless: “No way!” Well, yes she did. There may be a lot more you your mother than you realize.

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I love her competitiveness!

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Heh I liked that scene too.

I liked seeing how she noted down questions in all those books. Reminded me of modern day sticky notes, haha.

Her surprised and happy reaction that they had all signed up was sweet too.

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I liked these 2 episodes, and I also think that her reaction to her son's cross- dressing should be viewed that it was consistent with the period setting. Exposure could literally mean her son's execution, so why would she be calm about it?

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I don't like sageuks but so far this is working for me. Maybe because Kim Hye Soo's portrayal is not the typical queen we always see in historical dramas. I liked the fact that she is a 'commoner' and not tied to any influential family.

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"his mother falling apart and nearly vomiting at the sight of him in makeup" I disagree. Come on, she's in a state of panic, she stands to lose not only her own position/life but also the lives of *all* of her sons. This crisis occurs in what, the span of a couple of days? She can't afford any of the sons exposing further weaknesses. It seemed to me like her reaction was shock and fear at another variable thrown in the mix, one that could certainly become a pretext to bring that son (and even the entire family) down.

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@alathe: Dear Alathe, I wasn’t inclined to watch this as the first ep didn’t grab me but I will give it another go since you are recapping it.

Also, I’m really glad that you raised the issue of queerphobia and discussed it in your usual eloquent way.

Queer people have always existed. Yes, even in conservative Joseon and it is lazy analysis (not yours Alathe!) to just try and sideline the discussion of queerphobia by stating that “well, what did you expect of that era?”. By the same token, critiques of slavery, systemic human rights violations of indigenous peoples and women couldn’t be commented upon on the basis of the same logic.

Also, I acknowledge that non-queer people could also cross-dress as a fetish but countless personal queer narratives tell us that this expression of one’s true identity via donning what is frowned upon at best and existentially dangerous at worst has been a feature of generations of queer people who have regarded their gender identities as not one which they have been biologically assigned.

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I wasn't expecting all the political schemes and spying this early, but these episodes were really interesting! I am in. Cinematography was also good, there were some nice and fancy shots.

Initially, I thought Gye Seong was fooling around with a girl, but I guess that's Muan's thing. With Hwa Ryeong's extreme reaction, my mind went wild. Fooling around with a guy? Taking drugs? Torturing/murdering animals?? I get that his secret is scandalous during that time period though. Wish he hadn't got caught by the consort.

Court Lady Shin is Hwa Ryeong's only confidant. I'm worried she knows too much of the past though. And the royal physician looked a little suspicious.

Kim Ga Eun is cute. I like how she is now, doting on her son and wanting him to do well. She's not vicious like the others. But who knows how ambitious she will be...

Seong Nam is so handsome and perceptive. Excited to see him rise up. I feel like I've seen this actor before. I looked up his past works, but haven't seen them.

The big focus is on the female characters and their goals is great.
Hwa Ryeong trying to protect her sons. She's different from the typical queens so I'm excited to see more of her.

Kim Hae Sook!! Can't remember if I've seen her in a villainous role before, but it's cool to see her play one here. Eek!

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Hooked for this saeguk but this is going to be a real rollercoaster ride with Queen on her tiptoes to protect her children at all costs to survive in the power thirsty palace where anything can happen at anytime. The pressure on the Queen is hard, but I love the feistiness in her and how utterly competitive she is.

My favourite part of the 2 episodes is when the Queen stayed up all night to pick out the questions for her sons. What length she goes for her sons and that is really admirable. Kim Hye Soo is amazing as Queen Hwaryeong. Totally loving her in this role.

As for the sons, i like Grand Prince Seongnam. He is the best candidate so far in this political game. Smart, good looking and good at fighting I am rooting for him til the end. I love the way he strangled Prince Uiseong , that was utterly satisfying to watch.

I know at the end one , from the 4 Princes, one or two of them is gonna die, because this show seems to go into much darker tone.

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Favourite moment for me: the queen's expression when she had her teacher-parent consultation with the royal tutor. Her look of horror ("How could I not have known this???") and of outrage ("My son is a delinquent?!!!") were priceless. Actually, the whole bit about getting sons to pass exams and into a prestigious school worked so well because it felt so "now" despite being hundreds of years back. Done well!

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We are operating with knowledge of Seja’s illness that his father King Yi Ho or others in the court (surprisingly) don’t have as of yet. Some of us may be thinking of the cohort exam as a vehicle to choose a possible Seja replacement if necessary but if I recall the King’s approach to the exam was to pick someone who would help Seja loosen up if you will. Book knowledge may not count for all that much in the King’s mind.

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Based off the recap and comments i’ve decided this is a fast-forward worthy watch. I’m not fond of sageuk politicking but i did like the brothers relationship with each other and the Queen. Also nice to see princes in support of instead of trying to kill each other. Don’t know why i thought this would be a lighter fare on the sageuk scale..

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‘Based off the recap and comments i’ve decided this is a fast-forward worthy watch’ 👈🤣 my laugh out loud comments section moment for today.

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I’m being real though! Drama captured my attention from the 1st poster and i’ve been curious about it, so i decided to just watch the part that sounds good to me. It’s win-win really, i get my drama and it gets it stats on NF 😆

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I like this drama very much. The costumes, the acting, the story are all top notch. To live during any of those ancient times in any given country must have been grueling and filled with fear both for peasants and gentry. The poo poos about the way the lgbt issue was addressed in this drama does not make sense. As another replier wrote, "it's about the Joseon Era". If this were a modern day drama and they were mocked or ridiculed, I would stand in line to protest, but... seriously... 1392-1910? Plus, the "vomiting" or whatever could possibly also be because the times called for punishment of death. Mom is fighting to keep her children alive in this series and she discovers that her son is engaged in activities that would get him killed?! How about the rule of "kill 1, kill them all". As for me, the feelings of frustration for the Queen is very palpable. As a mother of 7, also losing 1, I can connect with all of her feelings. I think she is doing a very good job. I have not been crazy for Kim Hae-sook in the past, I think she uses her facial reactions too much (less is more). However, in this drama, I think, because of her status, she has to stuff more down. Poker face.

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