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I Need Romance 3: Episode 11

Jealousy spurs some fiery reactions today, as Joo-yeon embarks on a new relationship, sending our love square into a confusing mix of pettiness, pride, and sudden clarity. It’s easy to be zen about it when losing the love your life in theory; it’s another thing entirely when she goes running into someone else’s arms.

 
EPISODE 11: “I don’t want to lose you”

Joo-yeon leaves her date with a new boyfriend and a skip in her step, and Wan runs down to wait for her in the street with his bouquet of handpicked flowers. Agh, stop smiling like that. It hurts.

He surprises her with the flowers when she rounds the corner to come home, and says it’s their hundred-day anniversary since he moved into the house. “Thank you for living with me.”

She smiles as she takes them. When he asks about dinner, she says she ate already and carefully adds, “With Kang sunbae…” And then she hesitates again before telling him about the confession.

Wan: “Without flowers, a ring, or an ‘I love you’? What did you like about that?” She says it just felt grown-up: “I’ve received flowers. I’ve received rings. I’ve been told ‘I love you.’ I’ve done it all before. It’s all fake anyway. It just passes and then it ends.”

She wonders if she’s too much of a realist now, or it’s because she’s had enough bad relationships that her expectations have vanished. Wan smiles and says lightly that it’s okay—he’ll give her all the flowers, rings, and declarations of love that she needs, acting like he’s totally fine.

But in voiceover he admits, “That was what I said, but I wasn’t okay at all. I wanted to ask: Why wasn’t it me?

The next night she comes running home from the freezing cold after a date in the park with sunbae. Wan can’t help being annoyed at Tae-yoon’s lack of consideration, and needles that he was planning to be the bigger person and all, but he’s going to cave to his pettiness just once and ask—what on earth does she see in that guy?

She thinks about it, and recalls an earlier work conversation with Tae-yoon, when he just tosses out a “You look pretty today,” sandwiched in between dry work talk. She smiles now to think of it, and says she just likes that sort of thing.

Wan isn’t impressed, calling Tae-yoon’s moves playing hard-to-get. “Is that what you like? I can do that!” Ha, that’s so cute that you think you can.

He asks for other reasons, and she says there isn’t one, but that’s what he taught her anyway—that it’s love because there is no reason. Wan pouts, “I didn’t teach you that so you could like that guy.”

And then she adds that she also likes how uncomfortable sunbae makes her feel, which Wan taught her means she’s all aflutter with feelings. He grumps at her using everything he taught her to like someone else, and then later while they wash dishes, he tosses out a casual, “You look pretty today.” Ha.

She looks at him like he just called her an alien, and he tries to be as cool as humanly possible: “What, I was just trying it out…” And then he scurries away before dying of embarrassment. He collapses on his bed with a sigh, and decides he’s weak at love triangles because he’s never been in one before. Did you just brag in your voiceover?

The next day, Tae-yoon comes into the office after scouting a jewelry show, and surreptitiously hands Joo-yeon a pair of earrings. But when Hee-jae sees them, he makes the excuse that they’re a sample to look at for a possible sale, and ends up letting Hee-jae have them, much to Joo-yeon’s dismay. At least he texts her later and chides her for opening them in front of everyone.

Min-jung sneaks away to the bathroom to take a nap on the toilet, and sighs to Joo-yeon that she can no longer control her body. Min-jung tells her that she’s decided to keep the baby, consoled after Min-seok’s confession that he’s a good person.

Joo-yeon thinks she should consult him about the baby, but Min-jung nixes that idea right away, saying that they expressly sought each other out in the beginning because they didn’t want marriage.

Tae-yoon calls for a late-night work session at his place tonight, and Joo-yeon reads between the lines, remembering that he said the same thing when he took her to the musical. She has a momentary panic when she can’t remember what underwear she put on this morning, but then recalls it was sleepover-approved.

Her excitement only makes the reality that much worse, when she gets to his apartment… and he really does just want to work. Wah waaaaah. He realizes she was expecting a date and finds it cute that she’s mad, and pinches her cheeks to get her to smile.

They end up working over takeout food, and then Joo-yeon starts to wonder to herself if they’ve been sunbae and hoobae for too long to just declare that they’re a couple and suddenly become one. “I became nervous at the thought that maybe we could never have that feeling, like your heart might burst just from being together.”

But then he holds her hand as he drives her home, and she decides that small steps are good too. He walks her to her door and lingers there holding her hand, and she wonders if it’s finally time for a kiss.

She thinks back to a conversation at work where Min-jung talks about the excitement just before a first kiss, and why that anticipation is the best feeling. Hee-jae agrees, but then calls it the worst disappointment when it doesn’t end in a kiss.

Joo-yeon narrates that a woman in her thirties can’t be without some dating know-how, and demonstrates her surefire move: a tiny peck on the lips, then a sudden withdrawal, as if her lips are afraid to touch his, and then a childlike smile: “There is no man who stops there.”

She says that one second later, a deep, long kiss will begin. We watch all this unfold with Tae-yoon as she narrates it—the coy kiss, the smile, the coming back for seconds. But then it cuts out to her still standing there wondering if this’ll work on him. It was all in your head?

The way the scene actually goes couldn’t be farther from expectation—he lets go of her hand and says goodnight, the end. She heads inside and wonders what went wrong, thinking back to the kissing conversation where Min-jung says that a man who doesn’t kiss on the first date is just polite, a man who doesn’t kiss on the second date is sensitive, but a man who doesn’t kiss on the third date might possibly be into men.

She purposely looks at Woo-young while saying this, but he assures them that he kisses on the second date. Joo-yeon wonders what Tae-yoon’s deal is: “Even Sweet Potato started with a kiss.”

Speaking of Sweet Potato, he arrives home with a giant stuffed giraffe in tow that night, and happens to run into Tae-yoon on his way down the steps. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, Wan instinctively hides the ginormous giraffe behind his back, which is the most hilariously futile gesture ever. I’m dying.

He so clearly wants to be seen as a man, and there could not be a worse way to run into Tae-yoon right now. He tries his damnedest to speak coldly, all while hugging this giant giraffe behind his back as if it can’t be seen. I love this scene so much.

Tae-yoon chides that Joo-yeon’s tastes don’t skew that young, and Wan counters that he didn’t buy this because he’s a childish person, but because they share a memory attached to this giraffe. “It’s a giraffe with a story, this giraffe.” Hee.

Tae-yoon asks if he likes Joo-yeon, and Wan says yes right away without hesitating, adding that he likes her very much. That just makes Tae-yoon laugh, which peeves Wan even more—he said that to make him nervous, so why is he laughing?

It does the opposite of what he intended though, and Tae-yoon wonders if it doesn’t make Wan nervous to let his feelings be known to the whole world like that. He doesn’t think of Wan as a contender in the least, and rubs it in that he’s the one with the one-sided love.

Wan asks him why he’s dating, and nags him to stop sending Joo-yeon home freezing or crying. That raises Tae-yoon’s hackles and he says she must not tell him everything because there are good moments too. Why do I get the impression you’re more interested in winning this argument than in Joo-yeon as a person?

Tae-yoon suggests he can move out if he’s uncomfortable, and Wan runs out of articulate arguments, so he just declares that he’ll do what he wants in banmal like a kid, all while holding his giraffe. He stomps away and then gets crankier when he reaches the gate and thinks that this is the perfect spot for a kiss.

Inside, Joo-yeon frets about the serious lack of kisses in her life, wondering if she’s not attractive, or if he’s still hung up on Se-ryung, or if he even likes her. She sighs that she’s back in dating hell.

But then Tae-yoon texts her that next time she should close her eyes so that he has a chance to kiss her, and she beams. Hm, I can’t shake the feeling that these are excuses.

Wan comes in and presents her with the giraffe, and she lights up and sticks her hands out. He asks first whether or not it’s childish, but is appeased when she clearly likes it, and hugs her in relief.

Se-ryung is waiting outside Tae-yoon’s door when he arrives home, and he reminds her that he didn’t want to see her outside of work anymore. She knows he’s sick of her now, but says that eventually the same will happen with Joo-yeon—they’ll date, they’ll fight, they’ll make up, and things will cool.

She asks if he’s still going to go to Joo-yeon anyway, and Tae-yoon replies stoically that he will. He leaves her out in the hall, and she struggles to hold her tears back.

Woo-young walks Hee-jae home that night to see what her commute is like, and offers to start picking her up in the morning. He takes her hand as they walk, and then points out a streetlamp up ahead. He tells her he’s going to kiss her under that streetlamp, and gets closer and closer.

But once they’re actually there, she suddenly can’t and pushes him away. He wonders what happened and regrets the advance warning.

Joo-yeon prepares to give a big presentation at work, and Tae-yoon gives her a little hand-squeeze behind the podium after passing the stage to her. His boss warns him again that Joo-yeon will be nipping at his heels in no time, and tells him to be careful. He assures her that Joo-yeon won’t ever stab him in the back, and why do I get the feeling that you’re dating her to insure yourself against that very thing?

Se-ryung comes by Wan’s studio to dress his idol band, and he bugs her to pick out some manlier clothes for him too. He overhears her talking to her lawyers about when to break her contract with the home shopping channel to leave them in the biggest lurch possible, and when he asks her about it she doesn’t deny wanting to get a little payback on her way out.

She asks to get some air, so they drive to the river with the top down in the dead of winter. She wonders how Joo-yeon could like Tae-yoon over him, and Wan agrees that it’s a mystery, ha.

Wan tries to convince her not to let her feelings get involved with work, but Se-ryung says she was like this even as a kid—when she was told to share her toys, she would break them first. Why does that not surprise me?

Hee-jae and Woo-young arrive after a visit to Se-ryung’s office, bearing a stack of invitations to a party she’s throwing and the Betta fish that matches the one in Tae-yoon’s apartment.

Joo-yeon stares at it that evening, deep in thought, and Tae-yoon invites her over for a non-work date this time. They make dinner at his place and watch TV, and he slides over to put his arms around her.

He tries to get her to relax despite admitting that it’s awkward for him too, and then turns her face toward him to ask if it’s okay. “Close your eyes.” Kiss, kisses, and more kisses. Rawr. He reaches down to unbutton her blouse, but she puts a hand over his, so he stops at kisses for now.

Min-seok can’t help himself and rifles through Min-jung’s mail, among which is a letter from her doctor announcing a new mom class right on the envelope. He doesn’t have time to register what it means before Min-jung arrives and catches him, and he cops to looking through her stuff because he’s so curious about her.

He perks up when he sees her wearing the bracelet he gave her, and drags her into his apartment to talk. He says he’s stayed up nights thinking about this, and while he’s not happy about the fact that she lied about her name and her age, he likes her and doesn’t see what’s stopping them from dating.

Neither of them wants to get married, they only want to date, and they conveniently live next door to each other—what’s not to like? She still says no, so he asks if she’s hiding anything else, like a divorce or a child or a husband.

She gets defensive and insists she’s just sick of him, and warns him to stay away. It isn’t until she leaves that he remembers that envelope in her mail, and it gives him pause. She gasps when she discovers it too, praying that he didn’t see it.

Everyone goes to Se-ryung’s party, and the awkward love square gets even more awkward when they’re forced to stand around and smile in front of people. And then Se-ryung tips the precarious tightrope-walking mood when she tells Tae-yoon’s boss that he’s the reason she signed with them, outing their romance as if it’s still ongoing.

To make matters worse, one of Se-ryung’s poker buddies recognizes him and says something about their run-in the last time, and Tae-yoon storms off. He’s clearly still furious at her for everything, and he comes back out to ask what she’s doing.

Se-ryung tells him she did it so that he’d know what it feels like to be her—overtaken by rumors that grow to the point that no truth can beat it, and even the person you love starts to believe the lies over you. She challenges him to make Joo-yeon believe him now.

Wan keeps an eye on Joo-yeon at the party, and she seems perfectly fine until she locks eyes with him and he gives her this sympathetic look like he can see right through her, and she starts to waver.

Se-ryung sees her coming and uses the opportunity to ask Tae-yoon why he’s dating Joo-yeon, pointing out that there’s no way a woman so boring could make his heart race, and he’s only dating her because she’s easier to control.

Wan tells her to stop, which is when Tae-yoon sees them standing behind him. Se-ryung won’t shut up, so Wan starts to lead Joo-yeon out. Tae-yoon comes after her and grabs her wrist…

But just when you think he’s about to do one right thing and choose her, he tells her to put away her feelings because this is a work event. You ass. He orders her to think with reason rather than emotion, and you know it’s bad when Se-ryung actually smiles because he’s digging his own grave.

Wan pushes Tae-yoon’s hand away and scoffs that he can do plenty of rational thinking all on his own, and leads her out by the hand.

Once they’re out in the street, she pulls her hand away and says that Tae-yoon was right and she has to go back and be professional. Wan grabs her by the shoulders and asks where she’s going when she feels like this, and gets even more upset when she’s worried about how Tae-yoon feels.

Wan: “Don’t date him!” Finally, some honesty. She breaks free from his grasp and turns around, and he grabs her again. She flails and cries for him to let go, and this time he argues back that he’ll die before he lets go of her.

When she finally cries that she means it literally because he’s hurting her, he’s stunned and lets go. She stalks off wanting to be alone, but he trails behind her, admitting that he hates it that she’s dating Tae-yoon. “I don’t like it when you laugh in front of him!”

She agrees not to go back to the party, which is not what he’s talking about, so he swings her around again to face him: “Be with somebody who sees your worth! It’s okay if it’s not me! Just someone who thinks of you as precious! Someone who worries whether or not you’re cold! Someone who sees what you need.”

She tries to break free but he’s irrationally angry now, and when she tries to argue that people are looking at them, he says he has no room to think about that. She finally caves and has the conversation he wants to have: “Where is there a man like that?”

Is this a trick question?

Joo-yeon: “Believing all this time that there was such a person out there—it only made me unhappy. Where is there a person like that?”

Wan: “Why isn’t there a person like that? That bastard is just bad. The bad guy is just bad! He’s bad, and only bad.” But then he pauses and changes his mind. “No, that’s a lie. I just don’t want to lose you to that bastard!”

 
COMMENTS

Yay for some messy truth. There’s no doubt that I love Wan for being the generous I’ll-love-you-even-if-you-stomp-on-my-heart adoring puppy, but in this episode he starts to feel a little less like an impossible fantasy and more like a real person. We all knew the pain was coming, and boy did I brace myself for it, but the cracks in his armor felt well worth the suffering. Not to mention the fact that the jealousy was entertaining on its own for purely comical reasons. Never has a toy giraffe given me so much enjoyment. I love how extreme the comparison was between the put-together, confident adult and the insecure man-child with a giraffe.

But comedy aside, Wan’s development in this episode was crucial. It’s important to show us the disparity between what he wants to be for Joo-yeon’s sake (giving, selfless, endlessly understanding) and what he really is (jealous, insecure, hurt). It makes his effort that much more endearing, because he’s the person preaching to her that she deserves this perfect guy, and then he’s struggling with trying to actually be that guy for her. It’s amazing that he gets as far as he does trying to cheer her on to follow her heart, but there’s a limit to trying to do the honorable thing, because at some point he’s fooling himself into thinking he’s above the petty common jealousy. Is it really that Tae-yoon is bad for her, or do you just love her and want her to love you back? I like that he comes around to that on his own, even if it takes a messy argument to get there.

I know that she’s not even expecting half of what Wan was describing from Tae-yoon, but I like that his argument is that she should. Tae-yoon should put her feelings first, for once, ever. But if he doesn’t, the more important thing is that SHE should—she ought to value herself and want to be treated better, and any guy who argues that is a winner in my book. It just rings true with my philosophy—you get treated the way you think you deserve to be treated in life.

And until she fixes that, she’s going to think that this is as much as she deserves from any guy, Tae-yoon included. How she doesn’t see the alternative in Wan is beyond me, but I do understand her desire not to spend her life unhappy in love because real life doesn’t match her expectations (though obviously becoming a crustacean is not the only alternative). I just hope she decides she’s worth a lot more before Wan’s heart ends up a sweet potato pancake.

 
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My questions for this ep.: 1-Does “tadoo (sp?)” mean “again,” only? I have seen it being used in another drama, and it seemed to mean “yes! (or I agree! [with what the other person just said]) in the context of that scene, in that drama. 2-This was interesting to me: she called him “sunbae,” when he dropped her off. Would she eventually call him “oppa,” since they are now dating? Or would that be something they would have to determine/agree on? What would a woman call/address her boss, who happens to also be her boyfriend? Would it remain “sunbae,” because she has known him in that role/capacity for a long time (10 years in this case), or could that change (her calling him “oppa”) when they are alone together, or away from work? 3-I don’t understand HJ: does she want to date WY or not? Is she uncomfortable around him? What is her issue? I am just curious. She seems to like him though. Is she struggling, because her boyfriend just left her, and so she has to grieve that relationship, heal (some), before she can get with WY? That process would make sense to me, and I think that WY is not thinking along those lines. He seems to be pushing/pressuring HJ to date him. I know he is a nice and understanding guy, however, should he be a little more patient with HJ?

I really liked this ep. JW got to vent and say how JY dating TY is affecting him, and TY and JY had to deal with the repercussions of being dating someone from work. SR showed us that she can be really mean and destructive, and she aims to hurt (deeply), when she does so. I also loved that MS is finding out more about MJ, even though I don’t agree with how he went about it (please don’t go through her mail). I love that he is not letting go of her. He has to find out that she is pregnant, because the decision to keep the baby and what to do going forward involves him as well.

I still really like JW in this ep. He continues to be open and vulnerable about his feelings with JY. That is fine, because he is not smothering her with it (yet). I did not agree with JW however, when he took JY away. She was at a work function, she should have stayed, acted like a professional, and as TY said, talked about their issues later, in their own time. JY has been portrayed as this cold and detached (from her emotions) professional. That event and what happened there, was a great opportunity for JY to show the kind of professional she is, someone who knows how to handle petty and insecure people, and someone who can eventually be promoted.

It is sad that SR had to stoop that low (felt that need), and create a situation that will lead TY and YJ to feel uncomfortable. I also find it very petty and childish of her to want to leave to the Home Shopping Network in a way that will create a great loss for them, just to punish TY and YJ. That is immature, and at this point, I am hoping that TY doesn’t get back with her. I think that their relationship will be toxic. Their interactions are already bad at the moment.

I am glad that JW is not trying (aggressively) to get JY to love him, though he is heartbroken at JY dating TY. I don’t think however that JW should decide for YJ who she should date. She is an adult, she should make her own decisions and live out the consequences. I think that it is part of her growth process. I also did not agree with JW or TY telling JY whether she should stay or not (and grabbing her wrist). She is not a damsel in distress, and she knew what she needed to do at...

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Thank you for the recap! I am glad I decided to check out this installment of INR. I continue to love Sweet Potato, even though I might not totally agree with his actions (though I understand them), and I am welcoming the shaking up that is taking place, because it will allow us to see how the characters react and handle them. Five more episodes to go.

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Sorry, my sentence got cut off, this was the last sentence of my 1st post, "She is not a damsel in distress, and she knew what she needed to do at that function."

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I think you mean nadoo which means me too, tashi means again.
I don't think she'll be fast in graduating to calling him oppa, maybe tae yoon sshi. Personally i don't want to see them going so far. Hehehe guess I'm on the wan boat.
I agree about hee jae and woo young. As far as I can see she had a looonnnggg relationship with her ex and she didn't really want to break up. Moreover he left without a word and she's left without closure. to me it seems she's still hung up about him. If WY gave her more time as a friend though I think they might work or it will end in disaster all around.
I agree with some but not all of your views. As far as I can see JY is just like the crustacean everyone calls her. extremely sensitive and delicate under all that hard shell and what's happening here is after such a bad break up she opened up to tae yoon and is at her most vulnerable. I think it gives her a little leeway to be unprofessional for a bit. Ty should have been decisive about his choice. i don't want him to defend himself but the least he could do is act the boyfriend instead of the disapproving sunbae when JW tried to take her away. I think I'm going to give the wrist grabbing and taking her away for her own good a pass this time but it better be a one-off. And lastly I don't think he's trying to approve her boyfriend choices, I honestly feel he's trying to get her to understand that she should treasure herself a bit more than settling for a guy who doesn't even seem to care about her being cold, one who can't even share his feelings and says he's going to try his best to like her.

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Do you have a blog? You obviously are very into writing. It would be a good outlet for your skills.

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Ivoire, your inquisitive nature and passion (obsession?) with KDramas reminds me a lot of myself.

Because I wanted to know more about Korean culture to answer the questions I had in dramas, I found this book

NTC's Dictionary of Korea's Business and Cultural Code Words

It is a series of 2 - 3 page essays on a particular Korean concept. I've been slowly reading thru it at about one essay a day, and it has been most informative.

You can pick up a second hand copy for about $8 at Amazon. Happy drama watching.

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Hello Julia the Berkshire Beanie,

It is kind of comforting that you could see some of your behavior in the way I approach Kdramas, and my interest in the Korean culture. Thank you for referring that book to me, I will look into it.

My obsession with Kdramas is interesting, because I actually do not watch that many dramas as a whole. It was funny, because when it was time to vote for dramas last year (on this site), I realized that I couldn't really vote, because I had not seen most of the dramas (so I didn't have an opinion about many of them). I watched 7 Level Civil Servant, GFB (and I remember that you participated there, even answering some of my questions), YATBLSS (kind of), Goddess of Marriage (kind of. I dropped it after a while, and kind of watched the last ep.), Prime Minister and I (kind of), Heirs, and YFAS. So, in the span of 12 months, I actually only watched 4 dramas, from beginning to end. Not a lot, huh? Even though other dramas were very popular, like Good Doctor, Master's Sun, and I Hear Your Voice, I didn't watch them.

When I watch a drama however, and I am trying to participate in the recaps, I get fully immersed, and I am "obsessed" during that time. I have found that it is the best time to communicate with a lot of people, especially if one has a lot of questions, like I tend to have. I have access to more people during that time (when the drama is airing), and I try to take advantage of that. The responses have been mostly positive and my knowledge improves with every drama I watch.

I am glad you could relate to my experience with Kdramas, and to how curious they have made you, and I really appreciate you mentioning the book. It will give me a place to start. I know JB and GF wrote a book, however it seems that I would need to have Kindle for that (and I don't have it yet). So I am planning on having "their book," later. In the meantime, I will continue to throw my questions here, and share my thoughts, as well as read other beanies' comments.

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You can read the DB book as long as you have a PC. Kindle has a desktop app that you can download for free.

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Oh thanks! So I just go to Amazon or I click on the book link here and I look for that app?

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I’m effing mad at all the bad guys in the world. Because they do that – make you melt at moments with that kind of kiss, TY, and I was almost willing to overlook the cheap confession – my mistake, because the Wans of the world deserve first love, true love - not leftover love. I hope JY can see him as a man. "cause Wan is right, of course - a bad guy is just a bad guy.

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Hello owl,

I am sorry I didn't get to respond to your comment (to me) written in the comments' section of ep. 16 of YFAS. I meant to respond, and I didn't get to it. So, you wrote this, "Ivoire, how do you do it? You must take running notes as you watch to catch the many things in your posts. Hardcore drama fan you are!"

And you caught me, guilty as charged! :-) I do take notes (what are running notes, btw?) while I watch the episodes. That is how I can remember the questions I have, and the points I make in my comments. "Hardcore drama fan?!" Well thank you! :-) Since I am taking it as a compliment. Another beanie called me dogged last week. I had not thought of that, until I thought about my process in watching dramas, and realized that well... yes, I am persistent and purposeful in the way I tend to watch dramas (I don't take notes every single time, however, when a drama is airing, I try to do that. And yes, I tend to pay attention to the details when watching a drama, even if I don’t write them down).

I think I enjoy and appreciate a drama better when I am immersed in it, and when I let my inquisitive nature come out. I do appreciate however that I do not seem to be the only who has benefited from my process, as some beanies have told me that they have learned quite a few things from my posts. I guess it is time well spent, after all. And yes, it takes time.

The thing is, I find it interesting that with each drama that I have watched, I know exactly the things I have learned, whether they be language related, culture, food, scenery, etc... I do enjoy thinking through the dramas, and building on the knowledge/discoveries I have made over time. I have watched a lot of KBS World programming as well (documentaries, food programs, variety shows, etc...), and I think I just soak in what I am exposed to/see and hear (hopefully that will lead to me one day visiting the country, hopefully more than once).

I think I approach dramas the way I would a literature class, except you know... instead of a book, it is a drama, with characters, a different language, conflicts, a time period, some themes, and a story I am trying to understand etc... :-). Some beanies in past dramas’ recaps have compared answering my questions to a game they get to play. I am glad they were entertained, and I am always appreciative of any answer/comment I get.

My answer was long winded, however, I do hope that I did answer the question you had for me. I really do enjoy my process, I am so curious, about so many things. It is also neat when I find some similarities with my own culture, or with the cultures of some of the places where I have lived. Thank you for your question :-)

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It was a compliment! I am mostly on Friday's OT, but I've visited weekly drama posts recently and enjoy your posts. I sometimes jot down names and quotes that I like, and keep a list of dramas I've watched since I started less than 2 years ago. At first, my way of getting it all was to rewatch dramas many many times. But now I have so many kdramas and kshows that I watch weekly, I can't spend as much time rewatching. And, I get more the first time around, so I don't really have to. I also have a pocket sized Korean/English dictionary to look up words along the way. It is slow, and I really don't know that much Korean, but anything I've picked up is because of my newly found love of all things Korean entertainment related.

If you like, click on my name and you will go to my art site with some kpop drawings etc. that I've done pretty much in the last couple of months.

We do have fun here on db!

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owl, (part one of my response):

I clicked on your screen name, as soon as I saw that it was orange (so before I even read your response). And I have to say that you are quite creative. What I do with languages (my educational background) and cultures, I believe you do with colors and pencils. I really liked your FB page.

It was a compliment then, well thank you again! I am glad you enjoy reading my posts. I don't have people around me who love Kdramas or who would understand my interest in not only the Korean entertainment world, but also my interests in both Koreas. It did start with Kdramas, and it grew from there. So I come here, to dissect dramas, and to see the dramas through other beanies and the recapper's eyes. This is like a classroom for me, where I get to interact virtually with "classmates" who are watching the drama I happen to be watching. And we share so much here: MVs, links to interviews, BTS, etc... as you know.

As I have mentioned in my previous response to you, I don't and can't always do this (commenting and asking all my questions), however, I really do enjoy it when I can. My heart is in it, when I do it, that is how deeply immersed I become. I think a big part of it also, is that I love writing, so this allows to write my thoughts, and respond to other people as well, essentially, interacting with other Kdramas viewers, from around the world (which is awesome).

About the OT, I used to be a regular in 2011 and 2012 (I think I started at the end of 2010, and I stopped towards the end of 2012). I was there every week. If you check (those two years), you will see my screen name. I decided to stop because it was time consumming, and I would procrastinate on other things I had to do, since I loved being there. I actually met a few beanies there, and we ended up exchanging email addresses and getting more acquainted through emails, eventually becoming FB friends. So, this Kdrama watching and coming here to interact and connect, can lead to some awesome things, as you can imagine.

Last year, two beanies I introduced to each other finally met, and that was wonderful. When there was the Kpop concert in Mountain View, CA in 2012 (organized by Google, YT and MBC), a beanie came to pick me up, and we went together. I also met another beanie (and her daughter) that day. The concert was free and a lot of fun. 22, 000 people showed up. All of that to say that I know what can happen, being an OTer, and being a beanie :-)

I started watching Kdramas in August 2010, and I am a slow watcher. I also used to watch KBS World a lot, so I would watch the dramas they would air. When I write my notes, I have 4 sections: 1-Questions, 2-Comments, 3-Favorite lines, and 4-Comments for DB (where I organized my notes, before posting them). I have not been including my favorite lines from the episodes I watch, because there is no space for that. I do have them in my Word document however. I have not had the time to rewatch dramas, because tbh, I spend a lot of time writing, which I really enjoy.

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owl (part two of my response),

I did rewatch ep. 1-7 of YFAS, because my roommate wanted to see a Kdrama (she had never seen one), and now she is hooked. She watched Dream High in a week, because of KSH. And through DH, she discovered OTY (TaecYeon), and now she is into 2PM and is currently watching Cinderella’s Sister. She doesn't understand why the 2nd female lead cries a lot, and why characters cry a lot. I told her, "that is what a melodrama is..." She catches on fast though, and knows what an oppa, unni and ajussi are. It has been neat to see her go from "I don't know anything about the Asian culture," to "OMG, you have to see this video by 2PM," and she sings the lyrics (as best she can). I think I have created another addict. She loves YFAS and KSH by the way.

I love the idea of a pocket size Korean/English dictionary, I will look into that. Really neat interacting with you, I am glad I "saw" you here, on this page. I was wondering how I could make sure that you read my response to your question :-)

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I know what you mean about limited time and not always being able to discuss everything you'd like to in a post. At first, I read all the db ratings and used that as my guide to dramas, along with another site's reviews, I've watched 160 so far (maybe 30 jdramas included in that). DB recaps are so fun, and I was half tempted to try my hand at it when db called for sample reviews, but I don't know Korean, s0 ~ Anyway, I sometimes wonder what i did before dramas! (Well, I did complete a graduate degree in 2010, so it's not exactly a wonder where some free time came in after that. My first 2 dramas were Pasta (which I marathoned) and Faith (which I watched in real time in 2012) so, that is going on 2 years this June, I think. Lucky for you to have a roommate who can share your enthusiasm for kdramas and kpop. I want to do Taecyeon drawing soon along with the rest of EXO (yikes! there are 12 and I think I've done 5 so far).

Anyway, thanks for the chat. The whole Korean culture and drama style has kept me intrigued and entertained, and I love it. Wouldn't it be super fun to visit Korea someday?

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owl,

I am glad you got to see my response. I have checked out the ratings page of DB (in the past), just to get an idea of how they rated dramas, and to see what their opinion of the dramas were. I don't go by that measure however, when I decide to watch a drama. To me, it has to do with the sypnosis (of the drama) and with whether I like some of the actors and actresses in that drama, and therefore would like to see them.

My 1st Kdrama was Personal Taste with Lee Min Ho, and my 2nd Kdrama was BOF. I have seen one ep. of The Last Cinderella (Jdrama), and I have thought of watching more Jdramas (to check them out), but I haven't had the time yet. I think I started Pasta, however I didn't finish it. I also watched Faith when it was airing, and I participated in the recaps'comments.

Regarding my roommate, she is a lot younger than me, and it has been cute and interesting to see her become more interested in Kdramas, and in Kpop culture. she likes to dance in the house, singing to 2PM songs. A month ago, this young woman knew nothing about the Korean language, now she likes to sing in Korean.

About this, "Anyway, thanks for the chat. The whole Korean culture and drama style has kept me intrigued and entertained, and I love it. Wouldn’t it be super fun to visit Korea someday?"
You are very welcome! the Korean culture and drama style keep me curious. What I have also noticed when I watch some dramas and documentaries filmed in Korea, is how some of their landscape looks like the landscape in my home country. I find that interesting and intriguing.

So I guess we might see each other here, and on the You From Another Star recaps? See you then...

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btw - here's a link for your roommate with Taecyeon on the Human Condition. This is part 1 - he was in 3 episodes this year on living without stress with the Human Condition gang.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ril8e2T_bPU

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Oh thank you for the link, owl. I just checked, and the episode is subbed in English, which is good. I will pass the link along to her. I already told her about it.

Also, my roommate is so funny! Every time she has some free time, when she is not going out with her friends (meaning when she is at home), she watches the next ep. of the current drama she is watching (in this case, Cinderella's sister). I just saw her, and she taught herself how to write Taecyeon's name in Hangul, and how to say "I love you" in Hangul. (I am not learning Hangul yet). And I introduced her to Kdramas about a month ago.
Yes, I am living with an addict, however, it is an addiction I can support. There are worse things in the world to be addicted to, imho.

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Thanks again owl,
for the YT link. My roommate just watched the 1st 10mns in my room, and got excited as soon as she saw Taecyeon (of course), and I emailed her the link.

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lol I thought you maybe give up to recap this episode GF!!~ Thank you in anyway ♥

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Someday Tae-yoon is going to get slapped.Honestly.

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I am sorry I couldn't resist, would that be by you? :-)

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By me. But best be by JooYeon.

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I think any girl who is with him and realises who he is.Will slap him.I really think both the female leads need to slap him.And I'm pretty sure I would have.

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Now we all know Sunbae's hidden agenda like really dude. I can't stand him anymore. I liked him before but now not so anymore.

aww poor sweet potato. "why wasn't it me?" That just killed me. Hopefully he gets her in the end because that will be too sad. I can't believe she's blind to all that he's doing for her.

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I took this episode as a really hopeful sign of things to come. I didn't get as much of a jealous vibe out of it as I got the vibe that they're establishing Wan as a real man (in the making) and Sunbae as a self-centered man-child.

Wan is motivated by all the right things in his relationship with JY. He's sensitive to her needs and doesn't strip her of her own 'voice' in the relationship. He balances looking after her with looking after himself. However, I thought this episode showed the turning point in his realizing that, as an adult man, he will have to compete for her affections. Maybe it's just because I don't speak Korean, it seemed that although he showed tinges of jealousy, I didn't get a strong sense that he was going to truly be motivated by jealousy. Rather it seemed to be motivated by an awkward and awakened understanding of the nuanced world of what it takes to win a woman's heart. The adult world requires Wan being accepting of who and what JY wants; but at the same time balancing that with a willingness to engage in healthy competition to try to advance his own wants and desires (emphasis on the word "healthy"). Realistically, how can she trust him to protect (and provide), if he doesn't show a willingness or desire to compete?

Sunbae is immature. With him, his relationships revolve around giving him what he wants. When he makes a misstep he puts the blame on others (like implying it was JY's fault he gave the earrings to her subordinate after he had already given them to her; it was JY's fault he didn't kiss her goodbye, because she should have known to close her eyes *pffft*, etc..) He thinks that he can secure his relationship with JY by making immature and snarky comments to drive Wan away (giraffe scene) or by making a territorial display that demeaned Wan and stripped JW of her own agency (wrist grab at party). That, rather than considering her needs and seeking to protect her as much as he seeks to protect himself.

Another thing I loved about this episode was that we saw JY take back agency of her own life. And I'm looking forward to her realizing how much of that was made possible by her relationship with Wan. She's become able to take off her crustacean shell. But now, when faced with things that threaten to hurt her, rather than putting the shell back on, she's setting limits on how she's willing to be treated. And because of this new development I think we'll see her be able to move forward in a healthy relationship with an emotionally healthy man. The things I saw that pointed to this: she communicated that she wasn't happy about the working dinner being an actual working dinner; she wasn't willing to let the physical relationship move beyond simple (sloppy) kissing; she walked away from the party after she was publicly insulted and he didn't protect her by rising to her defense.

So I think the show is pointing everything in a really good direction. :-)

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"Simple (sloppy) kissing?" You must really not like TY, do you? :-)

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Thanks for the recap! Jealous Wan is so adorable. I'm looking forward to tomorrow's episode to see where the conversation with Wan and Joo-yeon goes. It's nice to see Wan's noble facade cracking. I think that shows just how much he likes Joo-yeon because as much as he wants her to be happy, what he really wants is for her to be happy with him!

I disliked Tae-yoon in this episode. I'm not quite sure what Se-ryung sees in him, because he seems to be just as cold and matter-of-fact to her as he is to Joo-yeon. The fact that he asked her to come to his place to get work done speaks volumes. It seems like he prioritises his work life before any personal relationships. Obviously,he finds Joo-yeon attractive, but I don't see him even trying to make the relationship work out. For all the talk that joo-yeon is a crustacean, Tae-yoon is probably the coldest character in this drama.

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he's real name is yoo ha joon, he was also in the same project with Kim So Yeon for Daepoongsoo drama (jisung, jee jin hee etc) as priest (temple)

when he came to strong heart with daepoongsoo casts (jisung, lee yoonji, kim so yeon) i love how he talked about nice kim so yeon hehe

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JW's Hair+ the Suit! :) Fangirling here...Sad there is only 5 eps left. Loved all the venting and truth telling!

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!!! Panics as she realizes only 5 episodes left. Too soon to think about saying goodbye to this drama.

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Min-seok, Min-jung's f-buddy. who is he?! whats this actors name. he is so gorgeous <3

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he's real name is yoo ha joon, he was also in the same project with Kim So Yeon for Daepoongsoo drama (jisung, jee jin hee etc) as priest (temple)

when he came to strong heart with daepoongsoo casts (jisung, lee yoonji, kim so yeon) i love how he talked about nice kim so yeon hehe

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He was also in the Princess' Man :).

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Yes yes he is. To be honest, he is my crush in this series! :>

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I agree, that actor is really cute. And I love that he wears glasses. I always look forward to seeing him on the screen. I also love that his character is not letting go of MJ. I do hope they will end up together. I loved it, when she said that she wants her son to have some of his dad's characters' traits. That tells me that she is not opposed to ending up with him.

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Also, here is some basic information about him:

http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Yoo_Ha_Joon

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He has a FB page? Thanks!

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Why is Sy-Ryung so hooked on this narcissist
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That giraffe scene was so unexpected, I couldn't stop laughing. Poor jealous Wan, I wish Joo-yeon would stop torturing the boy.

I love Nam Goong-min, but I hate Tae-yoon so much right now. First he has the worst confession in the world and now he keeps stepping on Joo-yeon's feelings. I'm with Wan, what exactly does Joo-yeon see in him? I can't wait for her to get over her feelings and start seeing Wan.

Also, yeah Wan for finally admitting your feelings! It's good to be a knight in shining armor (for they are sadly lacking in dramaland), but it's about time that Joo-yeon started taking him seriously. Go Wan go!

Also, I'm really enjoying Min-jung's and baby daddy's story. He seems like a good guy, so I hope he steps up once he realizes the truth and Min-jung doesn't reject him.

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Tae-yon suuuuuuccccks!
Like big one.
He really act like some guy I know, which make me want to slap him hard.

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Thank you for the recap!

I like that I find this heroine more relatable than the usual "candy" character. I'd rather be a candy, but I'm honestly much more like Joo-yeon. However, we differ in one major aspect...if you dangle a Wan in front of me, I will bite. Instantly. Okay, I hope I will. Send me a Wan (oh gods of drama), and I'll let you know what happens.

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I hope the next episode will give us some hope for the lead couple romance. and the kiss is more more hot than this episode.

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TY probably doesn't really realize his intention to keep JY under control so she won't kick him at work, but I do think he chooses JY because she's easier to handle compared with SR.
(or I'm just being to positive thinking abt him. I still think he's not that bad guy.)

Wan.. I admire him, how he could grow up caring, considering and understanding like that given that he didn't receive much love from his parents. If he cannot get JY, he deserves to get a better girl!

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Pwahahahhahahaaaaa! I haven't even seen the episode yet but that picture of Wan with the giraffe head popping up behind his is cracking me UP! And then as if a complement, the next picture shows the giraffe head next to his head, wearing the SAME disgruntled look as our puppy's. Hahahhahahahahhahaha!!!!!!!

Also, TaeYoon you damned bastard, for reals...

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Just wondering.
Does anyone know what the song they play during the opening credits is?

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i thought tae-yoon ang ser-yung deserves each other, but now i think ser-yung is way too good for tae-yoon. I hope both ser-yung and joo-yeon will just forget him and become besties again =)

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Well…I would've agreed with you, until SY said something about always breaking her toys if she was told she was to share her toys with somebody else. She's rotten too in my opinion, they're equally bad.

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I thought I may not like this episode because JY will date TY.

But thanks for a few JY-JW moments that I find really adorable and meaningful, I survive through the end. haha.

That moment JW meet TY at the stairs is funny. I don't think it's a proper to have met your love rival and have word fight with him while you holding that big-tall-cannot-be-hidden giraffe doll. TY seems looking down at JW. Of course he doesn't know yet who JW is.

At the party, I think I can see TY is surprised to see who JW actually is. He can't held his head high when his boss too know that JW is the famous talented composer with no. 9 billboard chart song. I love how JY look at JW that time. She looks like she proud of him?

Well, to think back. JY colleagues also didn't know about her and JW right? they must be surprise if they know later.

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This show is wasting the greater half of it's run on other people's but Wan and JY's love line....arrghhhh!!!!

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Unfortunately, Both Kim So Yeon and Nam Goong Min are gorgeous and great actors but with that kind of character of them didn't make me impress with that intense kiss at all. Where is my gentleman TY in early ep.? Now I'm only seeing a bastard who care no one except himself. I hope JY will get her sense together in next ep.!!! (ep.12) how worst TY is. Wan is your real man!!!!

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i think they are really great actors to let you 'not' feel impress with that kiss at all. because from my point of view, i think there's still a knot in both of their heart, whether there is "love" in between them. so the kiss, for me, it's like a kiss-not-from-the-heart. :D

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My meaning is I was against their dating since first and no more rooting this couple. So, even they created a passionate love scene I'm also feel nothing dose not mean the actors show awful expression. Everything just base on my bias ^^"

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why do I have the feeling that INR3 will keep up with the trends in the 1st and 2nd installments and let the heroine be with someone her age and a more "sensible" choice?

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Lord, I hope not! Otherwise my poor heart will be broken again. I will swear off the series if that happens. I got badly burned by INR1 when I fell in love with the second lead.

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I was hoping INR3 would keep up the trends by letting the heroine date somebody else, but made her go back to her first man.. (Wan-ie! Wan-ie!!)

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Thank you for the recaps!

So...why is it not Wan???
I am trying to put myself in YJ's shoes, ok, I really really want to be in her shoes, especially if she does end up with Wan. YJ really seems totally lost in this episode. I don't like how she is so submissive to TY, again, probably sunbae hoobae prior relationship affecting the dynamics of their dating as she mentioned, they are so used to being one way at work, can they change it when it comes to dating? And I do think it's interesting how for them, it really is just about dating, not love, since they both accept that there may not be love. Dating does not equal to love in their book, so you do wonder what are they doing?

At this point, I don't think she is ready for Wan, she is not looking for love, she like SR accused TY, also just wants something easy, maybe a bit uncomfortable, but in their safety zone. I can totally see how this could end up an open ending, where as usual, the whole point of the entire drama is for the heroine to suddenly decide in the last episode that she needs to find herself first, take some time off, and then come back, especially with the whole possible promotion coming up soon. Nooo, I hate those! But YJ totally fits that scenario. It seems she's gone from one man to another in the past, she just broke up with a possible marriage potential, then has to deal with two men right away...definitely not enough time to process everything. She still needs to deal with that glass full of rings, it's not gone yet.

It is good for Wan to be there for her during this time, but I am kind of glad they are delaying their possible true love scenario, so that when it does come, that will be it! But of course, I do want to witness it too before the end of the drama!

And yes, poor Wan, the perfect guy for her is right in front of her, but she just can't see him. Of course you would never think that you could possibly end up with someone whose diapers you used to change...that in itself would still be quite something to digest...so she does need time. This show has been interesting for me, as I am finding myself content to just watch whatever happens. Must be my love for Wan that is just enough!

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Oh Wannie Wannie Wannie...

The scene with Sweet Potato trying his best to hide the giraffe behind his back in the presence of Kang Tae-Yoon in order to appear on equal footing ("manliness") had me cracking up laughing.

The giraffe is the animal for I Need Romance 3

In You're Beautiful {He's Beautiful}, it was the Pigrabbit that played a symbolic role in the couple Hwang Tae Kyung and Go Mi Nam/Go Mi Nyeo confronting instead of hiding from their emotions.

In I Need Romance 3, it's the giraffe with a story that will have symbolic meaning and probably play some part in bringing Shing Shing and Sweet Potato together as a couple.

Many continue to ponder how Shin Joo-Yeon as a 33 year old woman can continuously fail to adjust her radar to compare and take notice of the treatment and affection that she receives from Joo-Wan versus the behavior and conduct of her Sunbae Kang Tae-Yoon.

It's possible with five failed relationships. In some ways it like marrying and divorcing 5 different times. At some point you will either:
- Accept that you are probably an incurable romantic.
- Give up believing that the right person is out there for you.
- Pursue relationships because the right person is just around the corner.
- Question if you have the worst taste/luck and are drawn to the wrong people for whatever reason.

Shin Joo-Yeon is damaged when it comes to trust, love that survives and doesn't change, deep affection, attachment, and unwavering devotion.

“Without flowers, a ring, or an ‘I love you’? What did you like about that?”--- Joo-Wan

"In the end, everyone becomes a stranger."
“I’ve received flowers. I’ve received rings. I’ve been told ‘I love you.’ I’ve done it all before. It’s all fake anyway. It just passes and then it ends.”---Shin Joo-Yeon

Give consideration to and review Shin Joo-Yeon's past and current Dating History:

(1) John Park loved Rock-N-Roll.
(2) Joo Sang-Wook just wasn't that into her.
(3) Oh Se-Ryung stole Joo-yeon’s first love - the boyfriend cheated and dumped her for Se-Ryeong
(4) One boyfriend only wanted sex.
(5) Alex was testing her feelings and deep affection for him.
(6) Allen Joo ends up being "Sweet Potato" which means a Noona/Doonsaeng pairing.
(7) Kang Tae-Yoon is her Sunbae, mentor, and confidant for over 10 years.

For the record, I'm not saying that Shin Joo-Yeon being insensible to Joo-Wan is right. I'm simply postulating that it's possible when one has failed at something more times than one has succeeded at it. Sometimes it is hard to see the forest for the trees.

I am enjoying the sensitive and encouraging sides of Joo-Wan's nature along with his internal/external struggle to confront and channel his jealously.

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I have to confess I don't like any of the main characters in this show. This is a first for me.

Joo-yeon is so immature, stupid and far off concering her emotions it hurts.

Wan was creepy in the beginning, out of character in the next eps (uncomplainingly doing all the household chores, waiting at home etc. like the busy, successful, young musician he is. Yeah, right) and now returns to a creepy physical handling of his love interest. Constantly harping about how he knows best what's good for her. And stupid Joo-yeon does what he wants like she got not backbone or mind of her own at all.

Se-ryung is cold as ice, calculating and totally disagreeable.

Tae-yoon who was such a charming character in the beginning now has to show some mean streaks, so the writers are able to sell the ridiculous pairing Wan / Joo-yeon.

What is the massage of such a show? Women adjust to the wishes of the guys, because they know best?
What a waste of good actors.

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I agree with your assessment of Wan - pretty creepy and weird and the manhandling in the last episode, after appearing to be all concerned about her emotional state and then totally turning it around to him and making it worse for her, did not help.

And while Tae-yoon has had some bad moments and I agree that he's not over Se-ryung, in general I don't understand what's so bad about the beginning of his relationship with JY. It seemed a really honest way to say "you like me and I think this might turn into something but I really don't know, but I will take this seriously so let's try it out and see what happens." anything more would have seemed incredibly fake given how hung up on SR he is. Given their work history I thought the awkwardness of the first kiss was quite realistic, and he's clearly trying. I do agree with Girlfriday though that the scene where she's giving the work presentation either feels like he's dating her to keep her from overcoming him at work or forshadowing that their relationship will end because he sacrifices her at work so that he can get ahead.

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I agree. Tae-yoon is not all bad, for all the reasons you said. I think he is not dating her to control her at work, but his sunbae just planted the thought in his mind. And it will become the reason for the break-up.
As if professionals like them wouldn't think ahead when dating at the office...

So sad to see, that a potentially great couple with common interests and a mutual passion for their job will get sacrificed on the altar of the forced illfitting pairing stalkerish Wan / clueless Yoo-jeon. :/

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Isn't it strange how some shows just dish up a batch of characters that rub us the wrong way?

It doesn't make the show bad. It is personal taste. Other Beanies may rave about how much they like the show, but if the folks in the lead are not your cup of tea, then maybe it is worth dropping.

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In the very beginning I said, that this show is like a car accident to me. I can't stop looking. :D I like the sidekicks and I really like Namgoong Min, so I fear dropping it is not an option. One other reason is my puzzlement what so many others see I don't see or get. It might add to my self-knowledge.

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I am certain that Shing Shing and Wan will end up together, but my real concern now is for Se Ryeong. She's an awesome character, and I really hope they don't put her back together with the vile unspeakable piece of scum of the earth filthiness that is Tae Yoon. That thing gives sentience a bad name, and if the give us a "pair the spares" ending with the self-assured, self-aware Se Ryeong being cursed with that hellspawn, I'd be devastated.

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I think the writer really know how to tease the viewers. great job!!

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I love how Joo Wan is written like your typical second lead, all selfless and caring and unreal. And Tae-yoon, on paper, sounds more like your main lead, cold and brusque.

Dear drama overlords, please reassure me that Wan is indeed the first lead and will sooner or later win the girl. Because, seriously, if Joo-yeon ends up with Kang sunbae, I'mma have to throw something. Preferably, something large and breakable.

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thx for the recap girlfriday :)

do you guys know if this a new or old photoshoot of Sung Joon (in Marie Claire Korea)? I guess it is recent since he has Goguma's look ^^
http://t.co/gW8ppUUoeH

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You're totally right! Wan is soooo much more like a second lead. I really hope that he's the main squeeze though.

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So this morning has been a sucky day.my actions have been misinterpreted making me feel bad and worried, then I download the first part of inr3 ,only for it be messed up,tried to buy more data bundles but the network is down, so I can't watch anything to distract my self argh so annoying.at least I can read recaps.

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That kiss made me cringe and feel awkward. Idk, their earlier sunbae-Hoobae rapport was so...solid..and great...ok I can't explain. It just felt weird.

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I agree. They did a good job portraying how uncomfortable it was for her since she was sitting so awkwardly, too.

I wonder what TY's going for it unbuttoning of YJ's blouse means? Are we supposed to think he
1. Just did that as a calculated move to show his attraction to her but really he isn't?
2. TY figured he had a hot babe with him so, he was going for it. That he has so little respect for her feelings that he figured he'd may as well.

Either way, it seemed to show poor judgement of JY's desires. No news there.

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At least she was conscious, unlike when she was with Wan. That guy is a creeper.

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2. But they're together? XD I have no idea where the problem is... and she wasn't ready yet so he stopped respectfully...
I don't get why ppl are so angry with TY.

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first and romantic and very pretty :)

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Oh goodie the wrist grabbing and man-handling returns.

I liked TY in the beginning, understood the character when his nastier traits were revealed but now I just want to kick him in the head.

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Exactly! Watching this ep. I had a flashback to someone I dated, and it really creeped me out.

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Aigoooooooo. I had not much concerns about how they started their dating-ting. But, Tae Yoong doesn't seem to try at all! I can understand that he doesn't want to make their relationship public yet, but he keeps himself soo distant from JY. I mean with SR he was affectionate and everything. On top of that he had to embarrass her, oh crap crap. ARGH men suck!
I like Wan, but I feel like he is getting too close... He should give Joo Yeon room to breath, that way she might put everything into perspective.

From now on I am only shipping Min Jung and Min Seok! :> _ <:

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About TY: I find it funny how he can be so hypocrite.

He mix work and personal feeling all the time but scolds JY for doing it, gets angry and jealous when SR put her work first and had meeting later at night to make job done, what about him? He also puts his work 1º and works late at night with JY - a person he thinks is attractive, however he can't trust and understand SR. This douche.

He also wanted to sleep with JY right away - he knows she likes him, and he knows he doesn't yet and still loves SR, but he was going all for it, huh? Way to use JY to forget SR and keep her jealous/get petty revenge.

I'm rooting for SR and JY get friends again and kick TY away from their life.

And Wan... oh Wan why?? Why he had to do that.... JY is an adult, let her make her choices, you care about your life please. I'm glad he finally said it isn't all because of her feelings but because of his feelings, finally he was a bit honest.

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I want that hot pink cashmere overcoat that JW put on her at the end.

The rest of it...... passed over me like water over a duck's back.

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Shing Shing's dress was also cool (her entire get-up was pretty)

The rest is too Melo for me too

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This episode made me cry, this series just hits straight to me heart!

I feel like even though i root for puppy Wan, i would fall for Kang sunbae in real life too, which hurts because it hurts that much more when he does not seem to be right for her, because he keeps breaking her heart, because it does not feel like his heart is all there and that insecurity she feels, i feel it, my heart bleed for her, and then it bleeds for puppy, and then back to sunbae because i want him to be the good guy too.

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Ugh, this is an accurate depiction of how I feel about the love triangle at the moment! Really wish they didn't portray TY as such a mean character just to sell the JW/JY couple. My heart bleeds for all of them :(

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For the fisrt time I feel like I have the second lead syndrome...but for the male lead ^^... love Wan to bits and so sad for him ...

Btw, Sung Joon talks about Wan and his other dram/movie characters in this interview "Cold but warm" (+ very very nice photos :) )
http://www.marieclairekorea.com/user/celebrity/hotinterview/view.asp?mIdx=9102&page=1&SearchField=title&SearchWorld=

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My world crumbled at the suggestion that Wan is the second lead. Omo, say it isn't so!

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He is not. He is the guy on the poster where there is the lead couple. I think the writer is giving Wan some strong competition though (kind of). The writer is also making Wan work to gain JY's affections. At least that's my take on it. I personally love that Wan has 2nd lead attributes. He is different, and that's great.

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Thank you so much girlfriday :) I'm really glad you did the Ep11 recap and the earlier one, too.

Personally, I love Joo Yeon and Joo Wan, they are meant to be together and they will find the way back.

Shing Shing ! Sweet potato ! #love

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I loved this T-shirt Wan's wearing in this episode that said "Please" on it. I felt it so much fit in with where he is at like "Please give me a chance"

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Interesting... I thought Shin Shin was a cool babe, not to be easily swayed by SR's tactics or office-place gossip.
Work-place romance is always risky and both leads are mature enough to handle that. All the drama towards the end doesn't rhyme well with the premise.

JW's influence has made Shin Shin insecure and a cry-baby. Not happy with you JW :-(

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That stuffed giraffe is totally giving Tae-yoon the evil eye in the third picture of his and Wan's encounter on the steps. He clearly has Tae-yoon's number and is thinking "You're such an a-hole".

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Am I the only one who thinks this series has become stale/boring/repetitive?

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thanks for recap Gf.

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honestly, I hate it when tae yoon kiss with shing shing. I am sorry to say it because my bias with goguma too strong..

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"He assures her that Joo-yeon won’t ever stab him in the back, and why do I get the feeling that you’re dating her to insure yourself against that very thing?"

Because he's exactly like Se-ryung, would be my guess.

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I have no idea why TY is bashed so much. He was totally adorable with JY, and he really tried hard, he's obviously attracted to her. It's just the beginning of a relationship, it's not the Big Love like Wan but I don't understand why JY can't be satisfied with this. Also, I dislike the way Wan acted at the end and I would have slapped him. Finally what he said is not true, where in the way TY treated JY once they decided to be together implied that TY doesn't value the way she is? And why does JY agree with Wan? Wan didn't even let TY speak up when Se Ryung asked him about JY. So we still don't know! Wan acted out of jealousy and can't let JY breathes a little bit because now he seems so egocentric "I don't want you to be with him!", since when does he have the right to determine who she has to be with. I'll never like this character.
I don't understand the hate for TY lol, personally I love this couple and on the contrary I can't stand JY-Wan scenes, I find them gross considering he still acts like a little boy…

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I do agree with you that it is not JW's call to decide who JY should date, even if he means well (and he does). I don't see TY as a bad guy either, at least not entirely.

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I may have an unpopular opinion here, but this episode I actually found TY as a man who is honestly trying to have a good relationship with JY. We know he doesn't love her in this passionate (hormonally driven) way, but that doesn't mean that his way is wrong. And it may actually lead to a much stable relationship and a more quality love than when he was with SR. Of course TY is still full of insecurities and he does make mistakes (who doesn't?).

I'm also not saying he is the perfect guy for JY. I just think they are both genuinely trying to make their relationship work, even though TY is mainly using his brain instead of his heart. What's right now good, as he knows that his heart is still somewhat engaged elsewhere... and that is another thing I like about him, he is resisting the urge of his heart, because he already experienced the hurt of his relationship with SR and knows it is bad for him... while JY is his partner and friend.
I just hope he doesn't have a hidden agenda with JY. That would be a huge disappointment for me.

(I have to admit though, I didn't like TY in the previous episodes, I found him sometimes cruel and manipulative. And yet I loved him in the first episodes. Is he bipolar or is the writer bipolar?)

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That was one of the things I personally liked about TY: the fact that he was honest about what he could offer to JY when he asked her to date him. He didn't make promises he thought he couldn't deliver. If eventually, he fell in love with her, great. Otherwise, he was still going to try to be a good boyfriend to her. AND JY knew that when she said "yes!" She is also responsible for the choices that SHE makes. I know she has been hurt in the past, and she has some growing to do, however she is an adult, and nobody forced her to date TY. Just my 2 cents.

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I seriously cried in this episode T___T

When JY told Wan, "Where is there such a guy?" my tearducts opened instantly I had to pause the vid for a while so that I won't miss Wan's dialogues. That rumble... it's so heartbreaking to watch T___T

I totally can understand JY, that she couldn't really see Wan for how loving he is. Because what if he's just another fantasy? It hurts to always hope for the best, because then your heart will break thrice as much when it turned out you were always right from the start, that there isn't someone out there who can give you genuine love, not after what you've gone through. I understand that it's easier to settle for less, to be always hurt instead of happy, as being happy is scarier than being disappointed :(

Saying all that, my heart breaks for Wan. Soooo much I replay the funny bits so that I can easily forget his heartbroken face :( I really really hope though, no matter how selfish this may get, that Wan could hold a bit longer, pretty please.. Please don't tire so easily... Seriously, JY (and the JY of this world, like me) needs somebody to show us just a little bit of holding on.

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Love this drama!!!

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