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Kolorful Palette: An affair with music [Secret Love Affair]

Another new week, another new drama! I can’t say that Secret Love Affair is going to be my preferred cup of tea, but I did genuinely enjoy the first two episodes, and they reminded me why I like Yoo Ah-in so much as an actor.

For those who don’t know, Secret Love Affair is about the romance between art director Oh Hye-won (Kim Hee-ae) and pianist Lee Sun-jae (Yoo Ah-in). The kicker is that there’s a 20-year age gap between them (oh and by the way, it’s on a cable network, so it’s probably not going to be super PG). I normally love a good noona romance, but two decades may be beyond the limit of what I can relate to or empathize with. I don’t think think it’s inherently wrong, but I can’t really wrap my head around it either.

My other issue is that as it stands, Hye-Won is married, and Sun-jae has a girlfriend. Based on the title of the drama that comes as no surprise, but regardless of circumstance I always hate affairs, so it’s unlikely that I’ll watch the whole series (I’m not going to let that keep me from enjoying these early episodes though!).

All that negative stuff aside, the first two episodes were romance-less, and a pleasure to watch. They weren’t exciting or fast-paced per say, but the characters were engaging, and I’m always a bit of a sucker for a musical drama. I did roll my eyes when I discovered that Sun-jae is a genius pianist because I think we’ve all seen that archetype enough. I expected the typical: a savant from a poor family with perfect pitch and so much god-given talent that he instantly instills other pianists with jealous rage. Thankfully, we didn’t quite get the typical. Sun-jae is poor and naturally talented, but it doesn’t just come easily. He has worked his butt off to an inspiring extent. Listening to a recording hundreds of times to learn a new song and putting up egg-cartons to insulate the sound in a rat-infested apartment is certainly further than I would ever go (I’m more the practice five minutes before my lesson type). I also found it incredibly refreshing that Sun-jae just started playing piano out of boredom. It was such an unusually normal back-story for a drama that I was genuinely surprised. At this point I’m pretty much just programmed to think that all back-stories involve long-lost childhood loves or the death of family-members.

I really just find Sun-jae’s character refreshing all around. Instead of being suave and charming, he’s rather meek and awkward, and even a little bit child-like. Watching his excitement after he played for for Oh Hye-won was like watching a kid open presents at Christmas. It would be pretty hard not to smile along with him and feel his joy. His passion for music is pretty infectious too, although he’s passionate in a very subtle and simple way that comes across as very pure. He’s not concerned about being artsy or interpreting the music in an analytical way. He just does what he likes and feels what he feels (when it comes to piano anyways). I think that’s why I liked this scene and chose to draw it. It really did feel like he was having an affair with music, and couldn’t help but be drawn to it, despite knowing better. That’s the kind of affair I like!

I’ve spent this whole time talking about Sun-jae, but Hye-won’s character has also been likable and not too cliched. Usually drama characters in her situation–surrounded by corruption–are practically angelic, and selfless to a fault. I like that she’s got more integrity than those around her, but isn’t idealistic or naive either. Both her husband and Sun-jae’s girlfriend don’t seem like bad people though, so I probably won’t like both leads for long! I really like their mentor-student relationship, and I can’t help but wish it would just stay that way.

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I completely agree on your issues with this drama. I'm alright with noona romances, but the age gap is big enough for them to be mother/son. While he might have a small crush on her so far, I'm hoping she won't feel the same about him for a long time.

I want to actually see where her marriage has issues before they start this "romance", because so far her marriage seems fine (although it's made to seem like she's the breadwinner of the family)

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Totally agree! Their marriage doesn't seem very good since neither one of them seems to really love the other, but she does seem extremely loyal regardless and there should be a big reason that would change.

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These are beautiful paintings-are they pastels?

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Hm. Her husband saying that she was 'nothing' short before their marriage (as she learned via the taped phone call) and her showing no reaction at all to this statement was enough for me to know that their relationship is nonexistent. They live together. That's about it.

Over the years they found an arrangement, he is a very obvious loser she certainly can't respect and they stay together, because they are intertwined due to their jobs, habit and quite likely the society that doesn't allow divorces.

As much as I abhor unfaithfulness in a marriage out of sexual curiosity and a lack of character, I am always open to a clear cut in life, if the spouses just don't fit. Sometimes it is only time that teaches this lesson and sometimes all fighting for a marriage just doesn't help. Real life happens. Why continue to suffer, if both are better off after separation? Especially when no kids are involved.

The age gap is not a problem for me. We had the same situation vice versa in 'Prime Minister and I' and I don't remember the fandom discussing it much. Girls, be a little more self-assured and claim the same rights as the guys have! Love is not icky. And I predict, that they will love eachother, because they share a mutual passion on the same level (other than with her hubby who desperately needs her to recognize a talent).

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"The age gap is not a problem for me. We had the same situation vice versa in ‘Prime Minister and I’ and I don’t remember the fandom discussing it much."

I would be more understanding if the main reason for people not watching this drama is because of the "affair" aspect than the 20 year age gap especially if they watched Prime Minister and I and other noona dramas.

In society, it is more acceptable when it's an older man/younger woman but shunned when it's older woman/younger man. Personally, I would never date anyone 10 years my younger or older but if it works for someone else, I am all for it.

I like the leads in this drama so it is a must that I watch:) and I am also interested in how they are going to handle this tough topic of adultery and cougar/cub relationship. So far it has my attention

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I agree there is a wholelotta hypocrisy going around on the age difference when it comes to the older female. I would not call this woman a "cougar" she is not predatary like her boss's daughter. She is not looking to assuage her need for a man by using a young kid. But when this passionate young man lets loose the avalanche of love and desire, it may be profoundly difficult for her to hold him off even though she knows it could destroy both of them. That is why this show works, it is because these two are both victims of desire.

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Exactly, she is not predatory and is, as i said elsewhere, as much the moth to the flame as he is. Emotions, senses and passions have been awakened and refuse or cannot be held down. So, i think she is starting to lose control too but having life experience behind her, she knows knows what the consequences are likely to be. As you pointed out in your later commeny, it cannot end well. Oh, but what a ride it will be for them and for us!

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I forgot to add that having been 'awakened', regardless of the outcome, could she ever go back to how she lived before? I dont think so.

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I agree-although it's uncomfortable for me to watch because the wannabe "girlfriend" seems psychotic and scary, I'm certainly OK with the age thing.
I wonder if there's going to be a flurry of these things, because the Japanese drama 'Last Cinderella' just aired in 2013. The woman is 39 and the man is 24 and it's actually quite cute in places. The man, Miura Haruma, (hot, hot, hot), is of course gorgeous, as usual.
These themes seem to go in small clutches, ie: You From Another Star, now stargazers in 'Angel Eyes' and they seem to span countries too.

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The actress in 'Last Cinderella ' is actually 41, and he is 24.

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To be honest i have no problem at all with the premise. I don't understand how people refuse to watch the drama since it is based on an affair when so many of us watch action film or thrillers when fundementally the majorityof us are against killing or murder. I am also someone who believes that being unfaithful in marriage is wrong and one should never cheat.

However people need to realise this is a drama it is not telling you to go out and have an affair, this is depicting a unique situation for entertainment. If you don't like then you don't but from what i have seen so far there is nothing really to hate on it. I just find it strange that someone would choose not to like a drama because of it being based around an affair when we watch so many other makjang dramas with lies, betrayels, murders etc. basically i like the drama becuase there is great acting, production value and being on cable more freedom, so i will be watching.

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Exactly. It bravely challenges societal norms and that's why people don't know how to feel about it. In reality, there is absolutely nothing wrong with two consenting adults being in a relationship - age gap or not.

I hope people realize that just because it makes THEM feel personally threatened/disgusted does NOT necessarily mean the relationship is inherently wrong in any way.

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right u r. Feeling threatened making a lot of fuss. It is a controversial plot for a Kdrama, so I expect there to be some strong opinions. For me, I don't love stories about affairs, but I do love this story. I'm totally into it.

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Two consenting adults, both of whom are single, wouldn't be having an affair.
Two consenting adults, one of whom is marriages, commit adultery.
I think there is that rather significant difference.

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The only problem with comparing the enjoyment of a storyline about adultery with the enjoyment of a narrative about murder is that it's rare that the viewer is asked to empathise with the killer (exceptions to that exist, of course). Most people will want like/respect the protagonists of a show - particularly one with 20 episodes - and if adultery is a no-no to a viewer, they will probably find it hard to like/respect and therefore engage with the characters and root for them. Personally, I REALLY enjoyed the first two episodes. Cinematography, directing, plot, acting were all on point.

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Totally agree with you. THIS IS MAKE BELIEVE!!! I will be watching too.

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That is how I was able to overcome the hurdle of adultery in this story. The fact that her marriage was in name only, with a man that was not her equal and a major loser; the fact that they had separate beds and he, himself, describe their relationship as companionship, made me approve of LSJ-OHW burgeoning relationship

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I hated the premise--it sounded like some kind of Indecent Proposal, and swore not to watch it. Then I clicked on it by mistake!

It has the feel of a movie, and an art film at that. The 1st 2 eps don't feel like a Korean drama to me at all. Somehow it makes me think of Hiroshima mon amore, where a young writer in his 20s, falls in love with a venerated writer over 2 times his age! It's not sth anyone advocates, nor would it become more popular if it were advocated, but in art circles, I can see two art lovers loving each other becos of their shared love in that art.

YIA's char falls for her basically at first sight, when he sees her supervising a rehearsal, bcos of her sensitivity to music, her appreciation of him, and their mutual love for it. So, I'm okay w it.

She has been lonely, and over stressed at home and at work for years, and feels cut off from her first love, that is music. He just awakens that in her, and everything that is impt to her as a person, which has been put to sleep. So, I'm okay w it too.

I see 2 music LOVERS. At this pt, I don't See their ages yet. I super love the first 2 eps. I know they'll face all kinds of difficulties:
The Diva will want him for herself; Her husband will want more glory than he deserves; they'll want to be together more than they can manage....

I just hope it won't go all makjang and melo on us.

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Does YAI's character really fall for her on first sight? I tried to figure this scene out, too, and I saw him falling for the piano not her. He was drawn to this instrument. But after the duet the situation changed, because he became aware of her and later remembers her and fantasizes about her playing with him on the bridge. The duet is the turning point for him.

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If they didn't get to meet again, I'd say that moment was about him being moved by the music being played, by a young man his own age, just before a recital in a formal concert hall; not that he was envious, more that it was the world that he'd so love to inhabit but had no way of getting in.

However, since they did meet again after that chance encounter, I'd say that moment had everything to do with how affected he was by her commanding presence, her regal elegance, and her supreme confidence in the world of his dreams. The respect afforded her by the young protege also meant a lot, esp. when she later pinched his cheek as a 'special compliment' to his having done well.
Oh, gotta go watch ep 3 now!

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I saw a lot of people talking about them 'falling in love' in the Viki comments and I don't see that AT ALL. I don't believe that scene was about love but connection. They found someone who was as passionate about music as they themselves feel and of course, Hye-Won is stunned by how good he is. I feel like it's a musical connection or a meeting of kindred spirits in a way which has fired a type of attraction but I don't think it's physical or deep enough to be considered love.

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I wouldn't say he falls in love, but he definitely pings to her specifically (beyond his interest in the piano). I think it's because she's really listening to the music, with demonstrated knowledge. That's not something he has in his life at all so I think he found that deeply attractive.

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I think she turns him on in every way that a person can be turned on, bcos she appreciates his talent, and bcos of the way she plays that piece of music with him, i.e. she touches his soul.
I've no doubt that he has fallen for her, but I don't think that is the same as saying that he has fallen "in love" with her.

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He doesn't have a girlfriend, she wants to be, but he just treats her as family... or did I watch wrong?

I loved Wife's credentials, so I'm sure I'll love this drama.

And your work this week: wow. Love it!!!!!

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yeah, i think Sun Jae and Dami's relationship only as friend. She likes him but he's not.
He only treats her as his close chingu who also close with his mother.

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Thanks for sharing your art, Fanderay!

I liked, but didn't love, the first two episodes of this drama until the last scene with the homemade mouse-trap. Now I'm fully on-board!

I really, really enjoyed this PD's drama, A Wife's Credentials, also starring the fabulous Kim Hee-Ae. I'm hoping this is as good.

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Amazing! Thank you so much for covering Secret Love Affair!

I'm really enjoying this drama, much more than I expected. The two of them in real life have no chemistry at all - I watched their press conference and photoshoots cringing. But the steam is practically coming off my laptop when I watched the first two episodes! I really enjoy how atmospheric the shooting is - and both characters are understated and pragmatic as of this point, which I very much enjoy. Hye-won is an amazing boss. I love how good she is at her job. I guess with a character that age, they can't rely of ineptitude and vulnerability to sell a character. Which I don't mind at all. She lives in a complicated world where no one is really in the right.

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Credit: Koretic Weibo http://www.weibo.com/funstroller

Kim Hee-ae:
“ The script not only speaks to our generation. It is also a work that can enlighten the younger generation. This is a story about a woman who seems to live for the sake of appearing happy for the perception of others, not for pursuing her own happiness, and her encounter with an innocent man who will awaken her inner desire.

I often asked the staff around me the differences between the people in their 40s and those in their 20s. Since the setup of the story involves a woman in her 40s and a man in his 20s, I felt even more horrified. Now, regardless of the factors from appearances, I accept the current state and try to interpret my role.”

Director Ahn Pan-seok:

“Basically this is a love story between a 20 years old guy and a 40 years old woman. Of course, the society will not give a break for such a relationship.

If judging from the tradition and ethics established by our society, this relationship is a damnable crime. But if we see it from a different context, it is not necessarily so. Oh Hye-won is a woman, who always chooses a safe path with regard to eduction, career and marriage. But has she ever asked herself simple questions, like do I really love the man I am involved with? Is what I choose really what I want? Does the man next to me (i.e. the man I have been living with/married to) and I really love each other? For the most part, the answers for these questions are likely to be negative.
In other words, the majority of us in this society is living a calculating life and taking an easy way out. Oh Hye-won, a 40 years old woman, intends to follow a safe path to live her life. Until she dies, she will not have any chance to look back on the reality of her life. Once she commits the “crime,” ironically it is the moment when she examines her life and realizes that her “safe” self which presumably adheres to ethics is in reality one loaded with problems. From a social perspective, isn’t her predicament to a certain degree also the self portrait for all of us, who strives to have a deceptively easy and comfortable life?

Yoo Ah In:
“Different from the rebellious youth I often played before, Lee Sun-jae is a 20 years old young man with a pure heart. Sometimes, I would even question myself: Is this innocent personality my type of character?
I really do not understand why the older woman involved in a relationship with age difference should suffer criticism. A man who gets involved in a relationship with 19 years difference in age will be considered capable, while a woman involved in a relationship with 19 years difference in age is always discriminated, even regarded as dirty. I really cannot understand why, and this is the society we live in.

OMG, I love YAI for those words above. And I agree with it. Most of people here didn't care if Prime minister and Yoona had a huge age gap, and even shipped them, but...

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Love these quotes, very insightful. Thank you for sharing them. I especially love the quote from the director. It's tough to balance practicality with passion. I feel like a lot of women have so much pressure on them to achieve, to work, and to be happy that they don't really take into account what they actually feel. I wasn't too interested in this drama before, but I may have to check it out.

Also, the artwork is beautiful! You are very talented, Fanderay.

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"I feel like a lot of women have so much pressure on them to achieve, to work, and to be happy that they don’t really take into account what they actually feel." - Beautiful comment. Brava. There is so much truth in that statement, seriously.

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wow, he said that? thats an incredible perspective coming from a young chap in a conservative society like Korea.

I guess the fact that he chose this project means he is ok with the subject matter and he has his unique way of looking at it.

Yep, Kim Bum Soo and Yoona looks odd together too but didnt have so much flak.

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I'm glad that YAI has such a good head on his shoulders and knows what society thinks and still stands by his own opinion. As to your comment about Prime Minister and I, actually I remember there being a big hullabaloo over the age gap between Yoona and Lee Beum Soo and people complaining about how "old" LBS was compared to Yoona... but for me find nothing wrong with the age difference in either way as long as both are consenting adults. I don't condone high school teacher- student love affairs though- that is wrong!

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Awesome quotes! Totally agree. There are lots of things that don't appeal to me personally (like olives) but I don't think others should be discriminated against because of their preferences. Thanks for sharing.

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Omona-thank you for sharing this.

Very thoughtful observations from all 3. On a purely objective level, I agree that the discrimination between older man/younger woman and older woman/younger man is very unfair. However, subjectively speaking I think it's harder for older woman/younger man to work, especially with a large age gap such as 20 years, because men generally are less mature emotionally than women at the same age (yes very sexist of me ;-) ) and not because it's "dirty".

I applaud Yoo Ah In for what he said, and it just seals my impression that he has always been unconventional and cool, like his nonchalant, non-reaction to gay rumors.

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That is YAI, he experienced hardship in the early acting years. It affected him much as in Antic Bakery co star said that even he didnt speak in honorific language to them (if I'm not mistaken). You could check his Launch My Life for more abt him

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I watched Launch My Life (the first subbed parts - does anyone have a link to the last one subbed!?) during the last days, because I had read, that he gained a very negative image due to this show.

I was surprised to see how manipulative the makers of this show were, always badmouthing him in the off, but the guy I saw and what he said on screen made me realize, that he is very mature, upright, got a good standing and a smart head on his shoulders. He for sure knew what he wanted and wasn't afraid to say it, which I really liked. I was very impressed by his personality and although he went under my radar before, he for sure is on it now.

What he said about SLA confirmed my impression of him and I'll follow him closely now. Great guy!

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I had no idea of any of this. Do you mind sharing a quick recap of what the situation was? It's great that YAI was able to learn from his experiences & use them to grow as a person.

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@rearwindow - Here is the link to the first part of Launch My Life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpGt0q5rt2A

In short: A film team accompanied him for 90 days during fashion shoots and a trip to London and LA. The MNet peeps tried to get as much out of him as possible, but he drew a clear line. He didn't want them to intrude his personal life (like his apartment) and didn't compromise. The show makers used this as a starting point of badmouthing him because he were 'disrespectful' to them. He also had a discussion with the PD in which YAI asked, if the guy has ever filmed an actor before or only idols. He never did and YAI asked him, if he really needed to explain the difference to him. They tried to make him look like a spoiled diva, but in reality he just knew the laws and ranks of the industry better than them and as young as he was, didn't give in to their see-through wishes.

In addition, they cast a translator for the US for him, who was a rich Hong Kong heiress with strong Paris Hilton vibes. A casting decision set out to create trouble and when YAI in the long run didn't fight as much with her as the makers probably wanted, they and the fashion team started to create trouble to provoke a certain behaviour by YAI. Which they didn't get, because he was just sweet although it was clear, that he and the girl would never become friends.

He supposedly didn't use enough honorifics, too, e.g. towards the older PD and I get, that this is probably insulting for Koreans, but I couldn't care less, so this didn't harm my perception.

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Thanks for sharing, Newbie! Everything you said actually makes me respect him more. It's difficult to create boundaries for ourselves, and it takes a lot of maturity to be able to do so respectfully. That makes him seem more like a real person than a manufactured "product."

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Oh, I saw that show! (Yes, I was that interesting in YAI -- he's compelling!) I think you nailed the description, Newbie. The look on his face when the "translator" was introduced -- he knew exactly what they were up to there. And then he felt sorry for her. So yeah, my sympathies were very strongly with YAI.

(I'm sure it helps that I don't have, and especially didn't back when I watched it, a clear understanding of the social ranking system Korea uses. So impolite behavior like that slid right on past me as well.)

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@Newbie,
Thanks for sharing the links, and the info on YAI. From a no. of shows we've seen on the K-ent industry, it is indeed full of bullies, pitfalls and traps, and anything that can be manufactured to inc ratings. Kudos to YAI for drawing a line, standing his ground, and not fall prey to those vultures.
@Omono,
Thanks for sharing the article and the quotes. In YAI's case, it is good to know that there is an intelligent person behind the characters he plays.

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I saw Yoo Ah In Launch My Life,, and I really like his real personality more than in drama.. He is so honest and brave to share about his opinion and his feeling.

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also in that show YAI gave the reasons as to why he don't use honorifics to every adults he meet, he said that when he was young and in his adolescent years he did use honorifics to adults and used to give them every respect like normal people in Korea, but in exchange of giving the adults respect he said he got bullied, lied, cheated and used by them, that is when he made a decision to make himself look big and mature so that nobody puts him down in anyway, that is his story...

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Oh wow! I really wanted to watch Launch my life, but the girl was so annoying, I couldn't get past that!

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I would love for you to expand on that. What kind of hardship did he go through?

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It will be nice if you can specify the original source of English translation. It is from fandomscape.wordpress.com Thanks!

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Sorry, I didn't know. I found it with credits like this [Credit: Koretic Weibo http://www.weibo.com/funstroller%5D and didn't know it was from other place. Sorry fandomscape.wordpress.com , all credits are not mine, I just found it and wanted to share. Sorry about that.

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If you read my blog entry, my friend Koretic compiled the news materials and translated them into Chinese, and I translated the Chinese version into English. Also, weibo is a Chinese social networking service based in China and most of the entries are written in Chinese.

But anyway. I am happy that my translations are useful for other people to better understand YAI as a person.

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OMG He said that omo that's so mature of him ughhhhhh now I have to love him now lol ??

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YAI <3 :D

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Not watching this drama, but I love this picture! Thank you!

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This painting is seriously amazing. It looks just like a screen cap even when it's maximized. You are really talented.

I just finished Secret Love Affair myself. While I'm not invested in the romance (and doubt I will be in any great way), I do love the look of this drama. It truly feels like a work of art - the direction is very stylistic and it feels very heady and intense. I've noticed that it looks more high budget than any other jtbc show I've seen and it generally seems to be darker (in terms of lighting) than the typical drama. I like the way they're creating the connection between the leads. I like that their connection is based on something other than looks or attraction. I also think the leads are doing a great job expressing their reactions to their first intense encounter: Yoo Ah-In's giddiness and Kim Hee-Ae's wonderment and shock. I'm very interested in seeing how the show develops. As it is though, it's just beautiful to look at.

I also like that Hye-Won's not a perfect, selfless angel. She's certainly kinder than the people around her (man, does everyone else seem to despise each other!) but she's shrewd too and she knows how and when to play the game without taking things too personally. That's much more realistic and believable.

I find it interesting that you seemed to think Hye-Won's husband is all right. Several characters call him useless in just these two episodes (including his wife likening him to a child!) and they've certainly shown that he's entitled, petulant and unnecessarily antagonistic and demanding to his wife. I find him a tiring character to watch (not that that makes cheating okay) and am simultaneously fascinated, confused and shocked by the amount of internal politics happening within this art's school/foundation. I'm really curious why Hye-Won and her husband married though - was there ever any love there or is it all just strategic?

I don't dislike Seo Young Woo so much as I'm intrigued by her and wonder why she's so suspicious of everyone. It's definitely more than just a hatred or resentment for her stepmother that's fueling her but judging by her father's expert machinations, it feels like she could just be the product of growing up in a viper's nest. I also wonder where her husband is? They certainly don't make her like able though and I wish she'd realize that playing it cool in front of others and striking strategic blows is the better way to go about it (a la Madame Han's methods). As it is, she's just making herself look unstable and childish.

Sun-Jae's girlfriend seems cute though and I feel bad for her as it feels like he's already starting to shut her out.

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I should probably clarify that I don't find her husband admirable or likable. I just don't think he seems like someone that deserves to be cheated on. His biggest flaw so far is a lack of talent, and he honestly doesn't seem as bad as everyone else who works at the Foundation. All the people who make fun of him are pretty much just interested in bribes and affairs. He may want a good student for selfish reasons, but at least he wants a good student!

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Thank you for the reply.

Ah, I see what you're saying, although it feels like you still have a more positive impression of her husband than I do. I don't think he's as bad as the ruling family for sure but he just always seems so negative and antagonistic. Every time he talks to his wife, he's yelling at her and complaining that she's not doing enough to throw him a bone. He just seems so annoyingly entitled to me, especially given that the Chairman invited him to the mahjong club so that he could ingratiate himself with them on his own but he doesn't want to go. He can't (and shouldn't) expect his wife to do everything for him. And the way he's always bossing around and sniping at his assistant. But who knows? Maybe that's my own personal biases colouring my view of him and he's not really that bad. That doesn't mean he deserves to be cheated on though - nobody does. I'd much rather someone leave a bad relationship than cheat, of course.

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Fortunately the show is not about bad people deserving to be cheated on ! It doesn't work like that ! It's certainly sad in real life but it will make for a boring drama formula...
I for one do hope that the writers will resist the temptation of turning the husband into a ridiculous/incompetent/spineless/egoistic character without redeeming features so as to make the wife's affair more acceptable to the viewers...

As for the age difference, it didn't bother one bit before the drama started & now even less = Kim Hee Ae has more class & sex appeal than the whole cast of I need romance 3 combined and the connection with Yoo Ah In is just incredible...

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yea... he's ok. just nothing but work associates with his wife. Which I supposed can be fine. Most relationship can't keep the romance going, so if u still have something in common, you're better off than most. lol. sorry, jaded i guess. but anyway, they're in their 40s so my guess is that they've been together for while and have gotten used to this relationship. I can see how a spark of passion would be very jarring for someone so not detached from their emotions.

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Bravo and thanks again, Fanderay~ each week I look forward to seeing what has inspired you and what lovely creation you have to offer us. It's a nice way to cap off the week.

Seeing YAI peeking brings fond memories of a hiccuping Moon Jae Shin.

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Affairs suck...in real life. But since this is fiction, Secret Love Affair is pretty terrific! I like the 20-year age gap. Oppas can do it, why not Noonas? I applaud any K-drama that goes against the tried-and-true, 100% cliche storylines. Do we need another "Cold chaebol meets plucky poor girl" or "First love reunion?" Been there, done those. I look forward to shipping a fresh, rarely seen couple. Plus, sexy times will be very interesting with this duo.

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I think it's funny how a lot of people loved prime minister and I, but think that the age gap in this drama is a problem.

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P & I also had it's detractors especially in the early episodes, but good acting and a steady plot made the complainers stop paying attention to the age gap and stay in the moment with the characters. I hope that this is what will end up happening with this story.

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you're right, there were many people who absolutely hated the age gap in PM and I, especially saying LBY looked like Yoona's father and all that, most of them stopped watching the show just because of that or didn't even try watching it...

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My biggest problem with that drama was actually the age gap. It didn't bother me at all on an intellectual level, but it sucked out a bit of the chemistry for me since I found it hard to relate.

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I always have a problem with affairs as well, which is why I didn't really have much expectation with this one. But I decided just to check it out and was pretty quickly captivated. The drama is really atmospheric and subtle and I thought all the actors were spot on. No one really seemed like a caricature. The musical direction is excellent, with most of the scenes playing out without any music except what might be expected naturally (such as the scene in the convenience store), so that when musical scoring DOES happen, it is really emotionally impactful. And on a purely personal note, all that piano music was really nostalgic for me because I grew up in a musical household and it reminded me of listening to my grandparents play their instruments, especially my grandmother who is a pianist. They both live far away now and play less anyway as they get older, so for me that was really moving.

I've always hated affairs, but this drama might just have to be an exception. As far as her marriage, their relationship seems pretty perfunctory and lacking in any intimacy. I don't think her husband is a bad person, but I also don't think he's very invested in his relationship, and the show has already taken care to reveal that he probably married his wife for some reason other than affection. These are not excuses, but knowing that there's no real trust or intimacy to be broken between her and her husband does make the pill a little easier for me to swallow.

As for the age gap, that doesn't bother, especially because as has already been noted before, this type of age gap would not be nearly as much of an issue if they genders were reversed. I make no judgment one way or the other on the appropriateness of such a relationship in any case (20-year-older man or 20 year-older-woman) but I do like a story that's willing to tackle taboo issues and make you experience them through another's perspective.

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I really agree with you regarding the atmosphere, and I'm glad you mentioned it b/c I wish I would have in my post!

The age gap doesn't bother me at all morally; it just makes it harder for me to feel invested in the relationship (dating someone 20 years younger or older isn't remotely appealing to me personally, and sounds more hellish and annoying than anything). I do think it's good that dramas are tackling suck issues, but I can't help but feel that it would be better without the affair (since the affair just reinforces that such relationships are something to be ashamed of).

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You're absolutely right about that, the social commentary would definitely hold more weight if not for the affair and now that you mentioned it I'm really sad that they chose to do that =(

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I fully enjoyed the first two episodes of this drama, and am eager to see the rest. The age difference between the two leads doesn't bother me at all, in fact, I think it's about time. The impending affair doesn't bother me either, especially if it propels the lead female character to leave a husband she doesn't appear to love, and whom appears to be using her to further his own ambitions. I do not believe the lead male character has a girlfriend. I believe she WANTS to be his girlfriend, but he appeared to treat her like a sister or cousin. I would like to see a happy ending on this, but am getting the feeling it is going to be a real tearjerker.

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totally agree with you. Sun Jae does not have a gf but she wanted to be his. On the other hand, Hye Won does not appear to love her husband that much and the husband was a total jerk for me. Leaving him is a no brainer. HAHAHA. Sorry!

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I wasn't really sure if she just wants to be his gf or if he puts up with being her bf because he doesn't really care either way. Regardless, she'll be very upset if he has a secret relationship she doesn't know about!

Personally I think she should leave her husband before the affair (in which case it's not an affair). I don't really see any reason it should be the other way around since it pretty much makes the situation worse for everyone involved.

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I'm probably thinking that they can't leave each other because of their involvement with the foundation and school. The husband needs a trophy wife to gain what he needed and Hye-won (Kim Hee Ae) needs her husband for personal goals.

The fact that they do not have a child (I suppose since I did not see a child or a kid in their house for the 2 episodes) means that they are not that passionate couple. I know there is love between them but not that strong I guess.

Let see what will happen in the coming episodes. With Lee Sun Jae, so far, he is just confuse. He met a person who can understand him in the artistic level in which he didn't experience in his peers and family. Maybe we can level it as infatuation.

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agree with you, she should just leave him or divorce him before starting an affair or at least break up with him or notify him that they are over, otherwise i don't think i will be able to sympathise with her character at all, although her husband is shown to be lousy and demanding he seems to have some kind of trust in her and she's also said to be a very loyal woman in the drama synopsis and she does look like one in the first 2 episodes, i don't know how he would feel about his wife having an affair with the student he is trying to be a mentor of, personally i think affairs are just poisons that destroys not only your life but also the life of people around you...

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I like noona romances and I don't criticize this drama. I love the story so far and would probably stick to this drama because of the musical elements in it. No doubt, Oh Hye Won and Lee Sun Jae has chemistry and kinda relate to Sun Jae when it comes to a fact that you are so passionate for a thing but do not have a support, financially and emotionally.

This kind of story can happen in real life. Young men are prone to fall in love to women not their age coz they are more mature and can handle them. Sun Jae was kinda like that, I think, basing on the 2 episodes so far.

I'm expecting more for this drama and I trusted the PD not to disappoint me.

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YAI is certified noonas killer. I endured JOJ just for him. Now in SLA he looks cuter and youngster. Oh Hye Won is interesting character with pride and integrity but Sun Jae will rock her world. I love when they play piano together. So intense!! The music also definitely a treat to my ears..

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It's to YAI's credit that he makes those 2 chars totally different: one regal, the other uncertain. It's in the way he holds his body--his shoulders and his back, the way he stands, the way his legs are positioned, and we haven't even gotten to his face.
If I liked him before, I'm crazy about him for his acting now.

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Thanks for the artwork Fanderay. It is an amazing piece. Sigh. I wish i had a talent for painting.

My view is that affairs happen not necessarily because one party or the other is bad. A lot of people make very 'unconscious'decisions in lfe and continue on that path, blissfulky ignorant of any ohter way of 'living'. Outwardly, verything seems fine and there is no need to question the status quo. Sometimes thou, something or someone comes along that shakes up that 'automatic' way of being and awakens something deep inside. It may not result in an affair but it may be that you coukd never live in the same way again. Of course, it may also result in an affair as we expect will happen with this drama. Who knows how we would have responded ourselves if someone comes along and fires us in such a way that we question everything we wer before?

And i will finish with the quote from one warm word " relationships dont go bad just because of bad people". - somehing like that( cant rmemeber exact words). :p

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Love your view. I think what is happening in this drama is a marriage that's built not based on love. I remember reading something like "They allow their relationship to become robotic or business-like.”

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Great piece--I love it!

A two decade age gap isn't something I could wrap my head around either or even do, but I like the idea of the drama and what the cast and director seem to be trying to say with it --like in the quotes that Omona shared--which are great! I really don't think it's something that should be labeled negatively or wrong if it's two adults who feel the same way about each other.

Will be watching the show! Interested to know what will happen with those two.

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Oh, that is also to say even though I can't really wrap my head around the gap--it doesn't bother me, lol. It's more like a curiosity. But even that---the heart wants what it wants, right?

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I tried watching it...I agree, 20 years is too much for me...30 and 50 I might change my mind but 20 and 40, too far apart for me...

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I love this drama so much! The characters, the CHEMISTRY and the piano porn! Both KHA and YAI have excellent acting chop. I don't find the age gap is awkward or disturbing because it can happen in real life. Moreover, KHA doesn't look like 40s. And there must be something more and reasons why the affair happens. Give this drama a few more episodes to see the characters development. This is PD Ahn Pahn Seok's style. The husband, the sassy boss, and both main leads will unveil the other side of characters/themselves. It could be darker.

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Ha, ha! Piano porn. That's a perfect expression to describe the duet.

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I wish there would be as much gnashing of the teeth over sexism in dramas as there is over adultery and age gaps.

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Or stupid, stereotyped female roles like Shing Shing in INR3. She always needed a guy to tell her what she really wants. And the fandom loved her for it. *still can't get over the positive response this show and the OTP got*

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From all the positive comments I saw about the show, I thought I was the only on that had noticed that. I liked the show OK, but she was getting a bit tiresome near the end for just that reason.

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More like Allen dismissed Shing Shing's feelings because he thought "he knew her best" and manipulated her in order to get her to be on his side. She did nothing wrong.

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To me, I liked how flawed Shin Jo Yeon was because she was relatable--although, the personality type was played up for the drama and it was sometimes really frustrating. I never felt like she was waiting for someone to give her advice, though and it was more like people were just telling her how she felt all the time. Just ONCE, I wanted her to say "Don't tell me how I feel!" to Joo Wan. Because he was always doing that and it's something he really needed to hear, I feel (I think I had more problems with this character than any other in the drama). I did however empathize with her need to hear that she did a good job or did well and wanting the people she cared about most to be proud of her. I think that's natural--especially to someone who has a lot of insecurities like she did.

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I would blame the male character more than her… which is what I did.
But IA either way. This OTP… Huh, can't get over all of this either.

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Sexism is rampant in k-dramas, and to some extent that is one place where dramas reflect real life in Korea and some other Asian countries.

It is often subtle, but I have seen so many k-dramas that I guess I have gotten attuned to notice it more than most. It goes beyond the usual and well known stereotypes - I wonder how many people have noticed in Emergency Couple that the heroine often goes into "ottoke mode" when male doctors are around?

Women always trip, men never do :)

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That made me like SLA female lead. She forgot her skirt? Quick thinking and - voilà - the scarf is the new skirt. No 'ottoke' at all, but instead very clever and adept.

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Sexism and misogyny are present in media from every corner of globe not just in Korean dramas.

I just find hand-wringing and moralising and judgemental attitudes about the affair in SLA to be rather naive. If only life were so black and white. I wouldn't presume to judge or shame someone who makes the decisions that they do in a marriage because I know nothing about their lives. And I would at least watch a show to see how it would deal with a subject that I find morally questionable first, before I judge it. But that's just me. Others don't operate in the same way, I understand that.

Meanwhile adultery seems to be a no no but hardly anyone one bats an eyelash over the forced kisses, the assaults, the stalkers, etc in dramas.

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Actually I have seen a lot of comments about such things as forced kisses etc. And yes, sexism is present everywhere - it is the DEGREE of it I think that gets peoples attention. Korea might be somewhat worse than perhaps the US or Norway, but compared to places like Saudi Arabia it is heaven on earth.

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Urgh, forced kisses. They are the biggest cultural gap for me. It's impossible for me to read them as romantic. The woman is struggling, the man is struggling. Both of them have their mouths clenched tight (because they're struggling) and a whole lot of teeth mashing and face bruising is going on...

It looks like the most unpleasant kiss in the world! Even putting aside the consent issues (and that's a huge put-aside, I realize) -- who is enjoying themselves here? It's the equivalent of equating a back hug with a heimlich maneuver.

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I've always said that if Korean dramas were the only exposure I ever had to kisses, I would never want to experience them myself because they usually look so awkward and uncomfortable. I sometimes wonder if they're doing it on purpose to dissuade young people from getting physical.

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Now that makes me want to watch the drama lol.
Sexism is huge in the american modern series that I watch. Just because there are portrayals of strong women doesn't mean it is not here in full force. But see how they try to make us believe they're progressive.

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If I see another forceful wrist grabbing and wrist dragging, I'm going to pull my hair out. Not to mention forceful kissing and issues regarding consent when one party is drunk. And dumb, airheaded heroines are starting to get old too.

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The production value, the writing and the acting is what I want out of a serious drama. Realistic, provoking. The drama is not trying to enforce a belief on you, but to question it. If you are turned off right from the beginning, you are not the targeted crowd anyway.

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Love your artwork for this week, Fanderay.

As for the drama --
I don't love Yoo Ah In in every role; the boy has a tendency to over-act when he's supposed to be intense (JOJ), but i have to say that he is killing it here with just the right amount of nuance and passion. It's nice to see him take on a completely different role from the ones he's played before. His body language, every gesture seems so natural to his character. His anxiety is so palpable i start to feel nervous for the guy.

Can we just take a moment to talk about that..piano sex they basically had? I don't think i've ever felt like i was being a peeping tom for a musical performance, but Secret Love Affair just went there. After they finished the two was bathed in sweat and heavy sighs.. Wonder what it was like to shoot the scene.

In terms of the couple, I am more on the neutral side. Not put off by this pairing, but not feeling the romantic chemistry either. There was a passionate kind of chemistry while the two played the piano together, but outside of that i do not sense the sexual chemistry. Some of that can be built in future episodes.

Also, the mouse-trap scene(sexual innuendo) provided for some laughter in this more serious show.

Kim Hee Ae needs to tone down on her moisturizer, she always over-applies, and it's really apparent in this show due to the lighting. I want to reach in and wipe off the excess oils off her beautiful face.
For the quote above from Kim Hee Ae talking about "awakening her inner desires" i've got to say she's perfectly portrayed that in scenes with YAI's character.

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Great remark about the mouse trap. This show loves to transport messages like this. The stairs in both houses are already discussed elsewhere. Definitely a show for an observing audience.

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LOL to your comment about Kim Hee-ae's over-application of moisturizer. It's a culturally Korean beauty standard to look like your skin is super hydrated (read: drenched) as opposed to the North American preference for matte-ness. My mother had to change her skincare and make-up routine when she immigrated from Korea.

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I have the same issue with the drama.
I watched Ep. 1 and it was alright but it had some pretty hard slapping and women beating each other. I don't enjoy such scenes. Adultery by the other lead was already shown early as to prepare us for what was to come ahead. I wanted to watch Ep.2 but it is just shelved for now.
Age difference with the concept of soulmate is... errr...maybe alright given a little bit different circumstances but here we have a married woman and young boy who will be her student eventually. So we have full blown illicit affair. Affairs motivated by desire, wants, physical attraction, etc is not my cup of tea. They may end up falling in love but again it feels so illicit and wrong on many levels.

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I love movies and dramas on Classical music and love it more if it has something to do with Piano, Violin, Cello... so maybe I'll watch it later on...

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From what I read in JTBC's character description and what I see in this drama, Park Dami is his vocational school's friend who has one sided crush on him.

Anyways, this drama is getting better each episode, story wise and ratings wise, peaked 5.3 during the broadcast of episode 2. I found it interesting that Korean viewers like it. But they also loved A Wife's Credential which brought almost similar issue. I figure SLA story will have the same flow. I will definitely watch where this will be going.

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I have not decided to watch the show yet or not, so have not seen any episodes. But like most it seems, I have issues with affairs, no matter how justified they might be portrayed as.

Basically, if you hate your marriage so much that you need to have affairs, why did you get married and why do you stay married?

As far as attitudes towards divorce go, they are changing rapidly as the divorce rate skyrockets recently...

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I don't think that everyone who has affairs hates their marriage. Looking at a character like Don Draper on Mad Men, (spoilers if you've never seen the show), he often carries on long term affairs in the early season. I don't think he did so because he didn't love his wife. He loved her in a way and he loved what she represented (achievement of the perfect, nuclear family and the mother of his children) but he didn't match up with her intellectually or emotionally so he could never truly confide in her. As a result, he always kept her at arm's length and he went looking for that emotional security and intellectual stimulation elsewhere. I'm not saying that's okay; just that people get married for many reasons besides just love or compatibility (even if they tell themselves it's love that's motivating them) and when parts of their marriage are lacking or when they find that their marriage isn't what they expected it to be or isn't fulfilling them in some way, they go looking for that fulfillment elsewhere, usually with the intention of it being temporary. It's not always that the marriage is terrible or they secretly hate their spouses. Additionally I believe some people are simply not cut out for monogamy (not just men) so they will cheat constantly regardless of how much they love their spouse/family/home life.

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I so agree with what you've written here, and to add to the complexity of the issue is the fact that there is SO much stigma around getting divorced and perhaps even more insidiously, around being open about one's problems and knowing how to discuss those problems with one's partner and friends. Even in American society, where there is less stigma around divorce (though still a huge amount), men are often given the sense by media that all men cheat, that if they want something they should take it, and/or that it is not "manly" to share one's feelings (which in some cases leads to seeking emotional fulfillment in the short high of an affair). Women are often taught from a young age to quietly lower their expectations and to be less demanding; to be contented with a safe life; that their needs are not that important and that it is more important to support one's partner than to actually explore what one wants.

I am very intrigued that the director is looking at this affair as a byproduct of the structural failings of society rather than as a condemnation of specific characters or merely a passionate love affair. I have never really thought of affairs in those terms before. Not that doing so dismisses personal accountability, but if society does not create an environment where it is safe to share what one wants and needs, it's no wonder that people seek solace the only way they are able to conceive of.

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i dont think that he is saying that the affair is a byproduct of the structural failings of society. i read it to mean that society conditions us to have certain expectations in life, to follow certain paths and so many do so without questioning.

often people think the path in life is date and if you date long enough, marry and after marriage, have kids etc. most will do this almost unquestioningly, and even if some have doubts, most will carry through rather than be alone or have thoughts that ' all relationships are like this - with occasional doubts. this person is good enough. two eyes, one nose, stable income, not a gambler no real vices. good enough. ' and for a lot of people good enough lasts a lifetime.

i think the in that interview the director was saying that hye won is such a character. and then she is shaken by YAI's character, which makes her question all that she was and believed she was before.

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I think you're both right, although what you're saying adheres more closely to what the director actually said.

It's definitely true that a lot of people get married and have children "because that's just what you do" as an adult, not necessarily because it's what they really want for themselves. They don't really put conscious thought into it but follow this blue print that seems to exist for our lives. It's why people get so much flak if they choose not to get married or have children even if they know that's what's best for them. You can give a long explanation for why you don't want those things but people still assume you're being selfish or that there's something wrong with you. It's also why a lot of couples get married just because they've been together for a long time and it seems like the next logical step, not necessarily because they actually want to be married. I read a very interesting article the other day which talked about how a lot of marriages fail because the couple 'slide into' living together, then getting married for those reasons (as well as external pressure from friends and family) and not because it's what they consciously wanted. It's part of the "it just happened" phenomenon.

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".. most will do this almost unquestioningly.."

I don't think the "most" part is true anymore in Korea, or quite a bit of Asia actually. If you look at the statistics for unmarried women, especially in the 30 and up age brackets, that percentage has been going up rapidly in the past 10 years. So much so that mainland China actually has propaganda articles and infomercials about it.

"The popular Chinese label shengnu (leftover women), regularly perpetuated in state-controlled media and on internet message boards, refers to women who are smart, successful and moneyed but still not married by the age of 28. That’s right: in China, if you're 30, female and single, you’re considered well and truly on the shelf.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/you-do-not-want-to-be-a-single-woman-over-28-in-china-2012-7#ixzz2wv4srFjb"

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And for South Korea: (Chosun Ilbo, 2012)

"Two out of three women start their 30s unmarried and remain single throughout the decade. The 790,000 unmarried women in their 30s account for 20.4 percent of all women. The number of unmarried women has more than doubled over the past decade from a mere 7.5 percent or 310,000 in 2000."

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But windsun, thats what i mean. Why do people think of it as on the shelf? Maybe it was a choice but the automatic thought is still that it was not. Why is that? Maybe now, women ARE making these choices but by and large, society is still saying that one is single NOT by choice.

I guess i speak from my own experience - my own relatives and friends who openly admit that they cannot be alone and would prefer to just be with someone even if they know this isnt the right person so that they dont have to be by themselves. I could never understand this coz for me, as long as one is with the 'wrong'one, one is denying a potential right one from coming along and i would much rather be alone than be with someone who isnt right.

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Your first paragraph is perfect. I believe that healthy communication is one of the hardest things for a couple to develop and sustain in any relationship (but especially in a marriage) and I think that a lot of marriages fail because the couple cannot accurately communicate their issues and/or they allow things to build up until they become huge, seemingly insurmountable issues. And I think that the messages that society sends to both men and women that you mention play a huge role in why couples (and people) have so much difficulty communicating with each other. Even more so when you add to that how terrified most people are of letting their guards down and being vulnerable in front of others. And I think particularly with marriage, people are so afraid of telling the truth about how they feel. So many people want to put forward the image that they're happy and that things are okay even if they're not so that if they need help with something or they don't know how to deal with an issue, they feel like they can't turn to anyone, not even family or friends at times. And I don't just mean big issues like cheating or abuse. They always feel like they have to keep up appearances until things totally break down (which is why sometimes a couple can seem perfectly happy and fine and then all of a sudden, you hear they're getting divorced).

I believe that some of these things are influencing the director's intentions even if he doesn't address them head on in the show.

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So much yes to everything you've written. What you said about communication hits a little too close to home for me. Even well-intentioned people, if they have not been taught by their immediate community (family/friends) or their larger community (culture/media) how to be aware of their own feelings and communicate these feelings to those around them, will find it nearly impossible to form a lasting, meaningful bond because of all the stigma around being vulnerable and honest with each other. And the pressure to be "happy" or even "ok" all the time warps our perception of what these terms mean, how many people are actually legitimately happy, and how to create a fulfilling partnership through the ups and downs.

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@enz: going back and re-reading his quotes, I think you're right that he doesn't make explicit that the show is an exploration of society's role in the affair/her unhappiness. Although, as soprection says, I don't think the views are at odds in any way--and in fact, they support each other.

I do think that a community/society which conditions people (and women in particular) to live an unexamined life, to perpetually devalue their wants and needs, to believe that "success" is in attaining these material markers such as wealth, and marriage, and stability (with no regard to actual happiness), is ultimately responsible for the byproduct of that messaging. Why is it so easy to sleepwalk through life with so little reflection, so little questioning? That, to me, is as much a structural question as a personal one. Life always finds a way through the cracks, and I do think that the drama & trauma of affairs are a byproduct of a culture that does not allow for un-stigmatized understanding, exploration and communication of one's wants and needs.

That may be more my own window into this show than the director's, but I do find it to be an interesting lens through which to explore this show.

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@rearwindow, i agree with you. In any case, i am excited for a drama that will explore these issues with depth and sympathy.

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I agree that it is not all black and white. It is one of those things that may not be "right", but it is not always "wrong".

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I also think a lot of people have affairs because it takes them out of their daily life/role for awhile. When you've been married and/or a parent for some time, those roles tend to become central to your identity, sometimes to a detrimental degree. But in an affair, the person can choose to be someone else entirely or to try to be who they were before they got married briefly. It allows them to be in a relationship without being totally defined by that relationship unlike with their marriage. I also think that a lot of people get married without being prepared for how consuming marriage is and how much it can take over your identity (in your own eyes and to others). If you're not independent/strong-willed enough or prepared enough for that, you can end up subsumed within your marriage and eventually lose your sense of self. I actually watched a Taiwanese drama called The Fierce Wife which dealt with these same issues. The main character's life had become completely defined by her marriage at the start of the show - she was just a wife, mother, daughter-in-law who had nothing for herself. No job, no hobbies and no friends except her husband's sister. So when her husband cheated on her and they decided to divorce, it was a HUGE shock to her system and she had to completely re-evaluate her life and figure out who she was and what she wanted outside of all that.

Again I'm not condoning affairs and I'm definitely not saying that using another person to discover your identity is healthy but I think that like most aspects of human nature, it's complicated and affairs are often about much more than just lust, boredom or opportunity.

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The thing that struck me was the deep hypocrisy of who can have an affair. Young Woo's husband has a lover in an apartment in Vienna. Everyone, including Young Woo, knows this. But Young Woo needs to be careful her husband doesn't learn about her lover(s).

Ditto Hye-won. I get the impression that her husband is by no means faithful -- and she's fine with it because she doesn't love him -- but she has to stay "pure" and faithful.

To my mind then, the issue isn't the affairs (people can have open marriages if it floats their boats), it's that only the guys get free passes. That, honestly, disgusts me. It's lying and it's hypocritical and it's sexist. And it's far worse, to my mind, than Young Woo's having a boy-toy or Hye-won falling for Sun-jae.

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That was exactly my thought too. I got the strong impression that Hye Won's husband even had an affair with Seo Yeong Woo at some point and yet, everyone expects her to accept that and be the faithful one. It might seem small-minded but honestly, I think if you are in a committed relationship with someone and they break faith with you, all bets are off. Plus, they are not in love with each other, Hye Won and her husband….at all

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This drama begs us to see an affair which our society considered unethical and immoral with a different perspective. the filming is done beautifully,,, it give me an impression of film noir.
The acting by two leads are brilliant. Though I personally do not consider YAI particularly handsome but I cannot deny that he has his own charisma and his subtle acting skills can show purity and innocence in the young man which I found refreshing. Despite of his innocence,the viewers see that he has an inner undiscovered passion for the woman as much as his passion for piano. Because of this contrast( pure but passionate), we cannot help being curious as to how he cope with those obstacle( when it comes to the woman, society and classical music world) which he has never encountered before.

I come to realize that many people spends lives in fake marriages. I was brought up as an Asian in an Asian country but end up living in the Western countries and married to an Westerner. Every time I go back to my home country, I realize that there are so many fake marriages,,, no love but they keep their marriages because of the convenience. One of my friends hardly see her husband since he lives in a different city and she tells me that there is no shared live between them but she tells me that she waits for a divorce when he retires with a pension. i cannot understand her but I get a feeling many Asian women face similar situation. I have no place to criticize her because I simply live in a different environment with a man who has totally different mindset from her husband. The fact that this is a very sad event and must be hard for her really pains me. Another woman tells me that she is not willing to divorce from her husband despite of his numerous affairs( and bad ones). She said 'Though I do not see anything wrong with others' divorces, I personally feel that I would be a total failure if I divorce him' I said to myself' Aren't you afraid to be seen as a total failure in the society and afraid of losing what you have?( her husband is very wealthy)' but I decided not to say anything because I feel that she and I can never share and agree with our perspectives in life.Being with such a man itself would be humiliating to me and I do not want to live in my own lies but she is willing to live with her own lie because her own fear.

So hearing those fake marriages, the whole set up where the female lead lives is very realistic so that I cannot help feeling sympathetic to her.

As for the age gap, there was a very famous kabuki actor who fell for much much older married woman who was the leading traditional dancer. ( Kabuki and traditional dance are intertwined)Her dance was truly a piece of art. He was captivated by her despite of the fact that she was married to the head of the dance school and he was married to a famous actress with a child. The whole thing was a huge scandal back then. But they decided to pursue their love and careers. There were...

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Interesting insight from real life. Like you, I simply cannot understand the reasoning, but I grew up in a totally different culture, even though I spent many years in Asia. I think a lot of it is that people trap themselves into thinking that no matter how bad it is, it is better than uncertainty.

On the other hand, I met my wife mainly because she was running away from an arranged marriage that her family was trying to force on her...

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Thanks for sharing this. Ah, it's sad. You wouldn't really think people would get married just for convenience anymore these days but I guess it's still common.

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It's a fact of life that emotional needs often over ride common sense :) I have known at least a couple of people whose sole reason for wanting to get married was to BE married, with no real thoughts beyond that. Emotional needs can also cover trying to please the family, please society, etc.

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As an Asian woman who lived most of her life in Asia, I must say I find your comments about "fake marriages" and their prevalance in Asian society rather misleading. Personally, I don't know any friends who have engaged themselves in "fake marriages" nor do I think such marriages are that prevalent as you suggest, and are indeed quite uncommon in many parts of Asia now. As one commenter has pointed out, in East Asia, the trend is that many women choose to stay single if they cannot find a suitable man instead of "conforming" to societal norms by settling for someone whom they do not love or respect.

Perhaps it is better if you would specify how this could be the case in your home country, or even your city/village instead of insinuating how this seems to be the case in "Asia" as a whole.

I think there are enough harmful stereotypes out there about Asian women in non-Asian cultures, that there is no need to add on to them.

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agree with you on this, these stereotypes about asian women, asian men and their cultures are just stupid to say the least, the women marrying rich men but ignoring his cheating ways, women living in loveless marriage for the sake of children or somebody etc happen everywhere not only in Asia, the commenter here seems to think that majority of Asian women in Asia lead a loveless marriage just because some of her hometown friends lead that kind of lifestyle when that's not the case at all, there might be people like that but it's just a small minority, majority of them do meet, fall in love and marry like in western countries, what is with this making asian women look like they are stupid and weak when that's not the case at all...

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Like you, I think it is important to note that things like entering "fake marriages" or convenient marriages are not culture specific. Rather, it is often the social circumstances that force people to enter such arrangements.

I believe the financial and familial circumstances of women who enter such marriages are far more influential factors than culture. For women who are in impoverished circumstances, the financial situation of a potential spouse is of course, something to be carefully considered. Also, women without strong family support are more likely to enter such marriages.

For these women, I feel I am in no position to judge them. Although I feel that I could never marry someone I neither love nor respect, I am in the privileged position of knowing that I will be able to support myself financially and will always have emotional support from friends and family. Most women who make such decisions are often not in a similar position.

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so you mean to say Asian men are bad husbands and Asian women are weak and stupid? i hope people don't believe in these stupid stereotypes about anything related to Asians, and just because some of your friends lead a loveless marriage you think other Asian women also might be the same?

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I know for a fact that all of those things are true, because I saw them in many dramas....

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Fanderay, Your art work is so exceptional. This one has became my favorite. Its like you can feel the emotion being conveyed from him looking through that curtain.

Wonderful

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Fanderay~ some people are arguing about your post over at secret lover affair soompi thread. It's getting hot their, I think.

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I enjoyed the first 2 episodes and im going to continue watching it... the story is so refreshing (good job to d writers for taking risks). Some may not like it because of moral issues and all (depends on ur taste) but man these things are happening in our society....have an open mind. good job to both actors. I super like kim hee ae...

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Fanderay ~

Thanks for the recap and the artwork. The show has some potential.

I wish they would have dialed back Seo Young Woo's (Kim Hye-Eun's character) bitchiness a bit. It's overdone and kills the overall enjoyment of the show . I get it, she's a bitch. Kill her now, please. Where's the Truck of Doom when you need one?

The juxtaposition of Hye Won's wealth and position and Sun Jae's humble existence will be interesting. She'll be his Sugar Momma in more ways than one.

I want the story to focus on Hye Won and Sun Jae.

I fear that Music School politics will be over emphasised - with all the typical drama cliches between Step Mom and Evil Wench.

Please Writer, don't go down that road, we've seen that story 10,000 times and it equals Snoozapoloozaville.

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Yees for me the kind of situations spoil the broth and are tiresomes

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One thing that so many Korean dramas are woefully short on is Trucks of Doom. I have only watched ep1 so far, but if they continue to fill the show with Evil Bitches From Hell and workplace politics, I probably won't watch much more.

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You certainly know his lips like the back of your hand... loveeee it! And I also love the drama.

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I've been finding it interesting to read about how many people are put off by the age gap in this show, but were gleefully squealing all over Prime Minister and I, whose protagonists are 20 years apart in real life (I can't remember if age was brought up in the show). Is it the tone of this show that makes a difference? Is it easier to forget about it when it's a fun rom-com rather than a darker, more "grown-up" show? (Am I just old? LOL. I am.)

I'm not put off by the adultery either because....well, because it's a show. With characters.

I'm enjoying it so far, and I love Yoo Ah In. I think he's a perfect choice for this kind of role.

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However, with that being said, I just remembered Yoo Ah In's character going to see his teacher in high school, and that DID give me pause. But he's supposedly not a very good student -- is he behind, and thus older than high school age?

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He's not in high school (notice no uniform) but vocational school which is a post-secondary education institution that teaches people how to work in a specific trade like carpentry or hairdressing (like Dami). I think that's part of why his teacher was so shocked that he was applying to a prestigious music school - it's a very different environment.

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Ah, thanks. I can un-press pause now, lol.

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It is not a post-secondary educational institution. It IS a high school, but Seon Jae was held back because he barely attended school because he had to work to pay his mom's debt.

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It's more like the opposite...they're capable of making a silly rom-com with a socially acceptable pairing, but it doesn't work with unconventional relationships because it's not the norm.

Kind of like how most LGBT movies are dark and you'd be hard-pressed to find many light, fluffy rom-coms about a lesbian/homosexual couple. The stories that are light typically represent what's so ingrained into our culture that it's safe to say it's what is most generally accepted.

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Your artwork is captivating! I like SLA so far, it feels Japanese to me for some reason ~ the lighting, pace, the characters, and the subject with its intense musical theme.

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Fanderay...the lighting in your artwork today is so beautiful! You see him in such a small sliver of the total view yet the view is complete...if that makes sense. It feels so complete.

This may be my favorite to-date!

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This drama is so good. I wasn't sure what to expect. I liked YAI in SS and Antique Bakery but skipped his last 2 dramas because of bad reviews. The press photos for this drama made it appear that they did not have chemistry. I was pleasantly surprised to watch episode 2 and see the chemistry between Hye-Won and Sun-Jae. My only complaint is that Young-Woo so far is such a one sided nonredeemable character. I cringe every time she physically attacks someone.

I don't mind the age difference or the affair aspect because this is a drama and we need conflict to make it interesting. This is a nice change from the usual Candy story lines (poor virtuous girl, rich jerk).

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I really want to watch this but I just find it awkward to watch married people having affairs. but who knows...might tune in here and there...even if it's only for yooh ah-in ^^

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I am sure that I am not the only one in college who had crushes on much older professors. It is easy to have a crush on someone who is accomplished, confident, and encouraging. Not that this should to develop into a relationship...it could be coercive on the part of the older party.

Now that I am older, I don't find it surprising when someone my age admires a young person who is full of enthusiasm and optimism (and of course youthful beauty).

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Recent dramas have been challenging for me to stay interested in.

I have been going through the syndrome of been there done that. But this one felt different. Perhaps I like music, classical music at that and there were these two that felt connected through that.

I can totally understand the infatuation of a young guy to someone who is so far removed from him but connects with him because of music. I can also understand how she could get drawn to and attracted to a handsome 20 something old when her marriage looks so passionless.

It could happen but it does not mean it is right. But this is a drama and it could happen. It is for entertainment for those who can watch it by not judging it I suppose.

Whether it is love, time will tell. But so far, it is nicely told and engaging enough.

I am loving the music too.

I hope it does not get too melodramatic but stays real.

I am not sure if I would be rooting for their romance but I will be rooting for the drama.

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It's really beautiful. Your painting. Good luck :)

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Affairs suck. I dislike affairs to the bones but I separate dramaland from real life. Guess I have matured through the years. If in my teens I'll be hurling my strong opinion regarding affairs here.

So, I've got to admit that I tuned in to this drama precisely because of the age-gap romance. C'mon, aren't we all sick of the typical romances already? There are 1 million and 1 stories about typical romances. Already. So why not some irregular couples? They do exist in real life, albeit not common. So I would like to take a peek into the minds of these couples, at least through dramas.

That said, I have to say that I'm not too impressed with YAI's acting on the first 3 episodes. IMO he is overacting. He is trying to convince the audience that he is a young 20 year old by acting like a bumbling half-wit. Young and innocent is quite different from bumbling and having no-confidence. Instead of a 20 year-old I thought I see an 8 year-old. But do I see a hint of a difference towards the end of ep 3, the garage scene? Yeah, maybe he's trying to show us that the kid has grown up after his mother's death. But, still, the clumsy part is way too unnatural for him to morph into a guy with enough attraction to pull her into the world of sexual tension. And did he lose that little bit of weight on his cheeks from the garage scene? If it is, it'll be plausible he put on the weight for his portrayal of the innocent kid before the garage scene, to emerge as the sexually more attractive man.

I'll be overjoyed if he drops the bumbling act (of course he will but it's just not necessary in the first place!). Meanwhile, Kim Hee Ae is wonderful as the super efficient and confident career woman with elegance to make young guys get intimidated and fall for at the same time.

There are certain things I don't like about the drama. But ep 3 is promising enough. Will watch ep 4.

(P/S. I can't help but think how Lee Jong Suk will handle this character)

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I beg you to different, but YAI pulls the character off. He's showing an awkwardness and a giddiness of a boy who never falls in love before. OHY falls to his charm not because of sexual desire first, but because of his sincerity and passion. When he talks to OHY about his view on her in the first scene of episode 3, it's so heartwarming, full of honesty, and all sincere. There's no overacting there. It's in his eyes and it feels natural. I can't imagine any actors do the same thing as he does.

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Have you seen him walk? He's more like Forest Gump than a boy who has not fell in love before. There are plenty who can pull off that 3 episodes much better than him. Unless, of course, he is meant to be a kinda Gump. But, nowhere in the show indicates that he is supposed to be one. If he keeps up this character throughout the show, then possibly that's what his character is meant to be. Still, I don't see him very much in the character. I see him acting.

I'm glad you like it though. Makes the drama more enjoyable for one.

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@Nanako:

Everybody has his or her preference, but a personal preference of LJS does not make YAI a lesser actor. YAI is not perfect. However, director Ahn Pan-seok found YAI, not anyone else, which says something about YAI's reputation as an actor among the best people within the Korean industry.

Everyone is entitled to his or her judgment. However, at least, for some real professionals, YAI is doing a superb job. For instance, here is the translation of the tweet by Lee Wa Jung, the writer of Cine 21, the respectable movie magazine in Korea:

"If we say that Yoo Ah In has a sophisticated charisma when paring with actors from the same generation, then he shows unpretentious toughness and protective instinct when he acts together with Kim Hee Ae, who is much senior than him . It is a role that shows his frankness and innocence, which manifests itself through the beaming actress."

In fact, many Korean netizens left comments under the news entries raving about YAI. Many of them were not YAI fans at all. They were saying something like although the incident about his MS was infuriating and controversial, nonetheless YAI as an actor is indeed unrivaled among his contemporaries. If his performance in SLA is enough to rid Korean netizens of the negative impression regarding his choice of MS earlier, then it proves how good his acting is, considering how any scandal related to MS can easily ruin a celebrity. (You can go check how Korean netizens write about Rain from netizenbuzz.com. It's painful to see how they perceive Rain now since he really earned his way to the top and all his achievements were brushed off due to his controversial MS...)

Anyway. Even as a fan of YAI, I am not going to say that he is "unrivaled." I am too old to idolize any actor. However, I like the fact that he is willing to take up challenge and choose a project that can be a taboo for conservative Korean audience. Not to mention that he is an avid reader and writer! His writing is astounding (much more so than his acting I would say) and he even reads obtuse academic books such as Slovaj Zizek's "Does Somebody Say Totalitarianism"? It is no surprise that he dared to articulate his political views openly during the previous presidential campaign, which might make him unpopular among some netizens and news reporters (because he was obviously against the currently ruling party). However, for many including me, his intellectual stance is a fresh air.

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Thanks for sharing this. I have not seen any of YAI's previous works but he is blowing me away in this drama. I dont think i have ever obsessed over a drama quite in this way.

It feels like I am in an affair myself. Consumed by thoughts of the other and breathless for thenext encounter. I find myself replaying scenes, seeking understanding for the motivations and actions of the characters. Love the drama so far.

Could you please elaborate on the MS issue? I thought he was due for that later this year or next. Than,s again

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Wow that's some research I must say. Interesting bits about him but not sure if it's relevant to how good he is as an actor.

I don't go round checking his credentials. Getting chosen by a director is just that. Every actor was chosen either by preference or audition. Doesn't guarantee lack lustre acting.

Like I say, I don't go round researching how others rate his work. I say what I think. However, after posting my first comment on this thread I did read back on earlier comments here and found that I'm not the only one saying that he tends to overact.

And you'll be wrong if you think I dislike him. How far from the truth. I first saw him in Antique, which I thought he did a commendable job. Or at least any flaws was not obvious to my eyes then. And of course there's Sungkyunkwan Scandal, which again he was able to charm many. But Fashion King was not able to keep me watching for more than 20 minutes. So, I state my view of his acting purely based on what I see in this drama and not before or reading what others say.

Like I say, if in this drama he's good enough for you, he's good enough for you.

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@fandomscape - Thanks for this info. So many things are lost in translation it is a huge loss for fans without knowledge of the Korean language.

@Enz - Just like for you it is the first time for me, that I am so involved in a drama. I constantly rewatch scenes and think about it. Never before have I done that, even when I loved a show very much. A huge part of this is YAI's acting. Althoug I watched SKKS I never really got his appeal, but here he is outstanding. He is a young, vulnerable guy and at the same time a man.

No offense @nanako and I am really sorry, but Lee Jong Suk could never ever pull off this part. Never. Ever.

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As the media is raving about how well YAI plays as Lee Seon Jae, I really admire his big effort in studying the piano, very hard and quickly. As the music supervisor in this drama said, no actors could do this as fast and as accurate as YAI did. He gave YAI the score to memorize today and the next day YAI came to him ready to play. He said YAI didn't boast about it, but in contrast it just goes to show that he is a hard worker.

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@newbie, totally agree with you. Lee jong suk could not possibly have played this and captured the sensuality and passion barely held in and that combination of being bold and nervous at the same time. I am dead.

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I did not want to point out something so obvious to myself if no one else. But seeing responses above, a clarification is needed.

I wondered how Lee Jong Suk will handle the part. Nothing more said. Hmm... But some think in order to protect their point of view, had to read so much into it. But bingo! I do have a strong feeling Lee can do better in this case (or for that matter, may Korean actors). If professional credentials instead of non-pro opinions are what some people need, go ahead to read up the credentials between the two. You are aware that one is a best actor and the other not, right?

There is a reason why Lee has been gaining such high popularity. To dismiss him outright (if only for the reason that he has been in some teen themed shows), then it shows a tremendous lack of maturity. Not able to act therefore being cast in teenage dramas is very different from acting in teenage dramas because it is. A good actor takes on many roles and act convincingly. If for some reason they have been on the same kinds of role does not automatically put them under the category of bad actors. Vice versa, an actor who is not good in acting, no matter how many different roles he has acted in, would not automatically qualify him as a good actor. In life, there are many complicated factors to any condition. If one is young enough to think that a seeming intellect from his interest is equivalent to being a good actor, than be happy because that kind of innocence will be lost soon as one matures and have more experience in life (or so I hope).

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Nanako - I totally get, that Lee is the current flavor of the day. I've seen him in some of his parts like School, I Can Hear Your Voice or Face Reader. Actually I've seen him more than YAI, whom I only knew from SKKS and his last year's movie.
And this very mature 48 years old woman, that is way too old to fangirl over some skinny 20+ guys who could be her sons is of the very distinct opinion, that YAI rocks this part. What I have seen of Lee doesn't come close to the abilities needed for this character. What he'd do with this role? He'd not live up to the expectations.
Dismissing someone based on his choice of roles, like you wrote, is exactly what you do judging YAI because of Fashion King.

So let's agree to disagree.

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This drama seems to be moving fast. Emotions are running high and the Teacher is getting ready to go into territory she has not experienced. She is starving for affection from a caring male as a result of this dysfunctional relationship with her husband. Yet she is hesitant to try something new..until what is leading to now !What I find interesting is the emotion that is shown when they are playing music. It's as if they are on an emotional high. I am however concerned about the girlfriend of this young prodigy. How will he help her deal with the pain of losing him to an older woman ? She was there during his rough / hard times. Ugh.

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At first I was like 'huh where's the art, I see only a screencap." Very nice!

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I just casually checked this show out while waiting for Empress ki subs and surprisingly, I liked it. It does feel like a movie and the mood is dark. I like the chemistry between the 2 leads and the age gap is not a problem for me nor the cheating. This is a first drama for me with this type of issue. I've watched too many rich guy rescuing poor girl dramas.

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Does anyone know the piece of music played at the end of episode 3?

By the way, I though the last 24 hrs was long; now I have to wait a week! (Just finished ep4)

I really enjoyed everyone's well articulated comments, especially in the 24 section. They were quite insightful and actually enhanced my appreciation of this drama.

Fanderay, thank you for the synopsis and captivating painting. I would love to hang it in my bedroom, but I fear I would never leave my bed because I was staring at it.

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I watched three epidodes, and I'm on a high for this show. This is my crack! I felt like, I was reborn... and that YAI had captured my soul. Curse you beautiful creature! I'm going crazy waiting for the next episode.

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This is the best K drama of the year. It sets the higher bar for the other dramas to pass. Each episode is always better than the previous one. The story just flows so beautifully, it's very realistic, all the characters are not wasted, the cinematography does remind me of a noir film. YAI & KHA's acting just hit all the right chords. The storyline is thought provoking and yet well accepted in Korea. I'm hooked and will follow it till the end. Bring it on, baby!

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I've watched episodes 3 and 4. This drama is so good, the kind I would stay up all night to marathon. It really looks like a mature sophisticated movie. Just beautifully done.

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Episode 3 was intense and heartbreaking. I'm a puddle.

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I'M HOOKED!!! Yoo Ah In & Kim Hee Ae are ah-ma-zing! I pray it will stay awesome till the end! Yassss!

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I do not see this as a right verses wrong moral issue. It is about a sensitive, simple very young man who's passion is awakened by a sophisticated elegant and highly educated woman who also shares his talent for the piane. She has lived her life playing sophisticated political chess in the art world, and endured a loveless marriage with a childish self centered man. She would not ordinarily prey on a young guy, but he sensed her need and appreciation and opens his heart full blast, something he cannot refine or rethink or fine tune, he young and filled with powerful desire. Question is how long can she hold out, and once the barriers come down, what will happen? It cannot end well. Either he or she or both will be destroyed in the flames of their own passion.

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I do not applaud cheating-I would not want to be the woman's husband or the young man's girlfriend-It is a mater of my principals-and not on the account of if the man can do it --we can also-I believe women is a whole more complicated then men--We are so different to be compared...

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This is a drama--so I am ok with it but still I would have a hard time watching people lie to each other--The leads' charms are not enough to get me over the idea of a smart capable lady would not able to control herself for others' sake -Love, yes, cheating, no--she could be better-

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