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Misaeng: Episode 5

It’s another great installment looking into the incomplete lives of our favorite office workers and our newbies, who get their first taste of workplace politics. This time it’s an episode with a focus on the women, all about what women sacrifice to balance their work and personal lives and what they can’t sacrifice to preserve their integrity. Our ace intern learns some valuable lessons from a wise veteran, who despite the years of experience, has yet to figure everything out.

 
EPISODE 5 RECAP

It’s just another normal day for Sales Team 3, complete with Chief Oh yelling at Geu-rae for his incompetent work. He throws files at him to redo, and Geu-rae rushes to his desk. In a voiceover, he tells us, “It’s a relief that nothing has changed, at least for me.”

We see what he means as we get updates from our other newbie employees. Seok-yul struggles to adjust, having been planted in the office from the factory. Baek-ki has little to do, being valued less than his boss’s Bluetooth headset. Even ace Young-yi is demoted to handle the food and other trivial item deliveries on her team while also being treated coldly by her superiors for no apparent reason.

The next morning, Geu-rae and Young-yi are met with Chief Oh, who smiles widely as he greets Young-yi. Deputy Director Sun Ji-young joins the group by the elevator, and Chief Oh notes that she’s arrived later than usual. She explains that she had to drop off her kid at day care and proceeds to greet the newbies. Chief Oh introduces her with compliments, saying she’s popular among all employees and has a higher position than him, even though they entered the company at the same time.

Chief Oh rattles off duties for Geu-rae and scolds him for not knowing all the details of their ongoing contracts. He then asks if Geu-rae relayed the acquisition plan to the resource team, to which Geu-rae smiles and tells him that he did so yesterday. Chief Oh freezes and mumbles to himself that he’s most suspicious when Geu-rae answers with that smile of his.

The Resource Department Manager Ma signs a stack of contracts and voices his complaints about the one from Sales Team 3. It only has the bill of lading (BL) draft and not the full original receipt for the transaction, leading the manager to presume that Chief Oh embezzled funds. He orders the resource team Chief Jung to call Chief Oh immediately and he nervously does as told. He conducts a one-sided conversation with Chief Oh, putting words in his mouth about how the mistake is the newbie’s fault.

Deducing that Chief Jung is in the intimidating presence of Manager Ma, Chief Oh calls back and demands that he come to him. When he arrives, Chief Oh yells at him for irresponsibly handling the situation by pushing the blame on someone else. That triggers Chief Jung to cross his boundaries as he yells, “Even though I may embarrass myself, at least I say things when necessary, unlike someone who didn’t say anything, which led to a funeral.”

That’s his tipping point, and Chief Oh grabs his collar. The rest of the office huddles around while Geu-rae and Dong-shik try to separate the two men. Chief Jung taunts him, and Chief Oh eventually just throws him back into the desk, causing him to whimper.

Chief Oh is scolded by his superior for his immaturity, but he ignores the disciplinary lecture and walks back to his desk. Dong-shik takes Geu-rae to the stairwell, where they wonder what happened to the original BL that Dong-shik completed months ago. He shakes his head at Chief Jung’s inappropriate allusion to the past, prompting a confused and curious look from Geu-rae.

Chief Oh steams at his desk, opening a drawer with his at-the-ready resignation letter. He stares at it as he remembers what happened. In a flashback, we see Chief Oh reporting to the executive director about the death of a female employee. The executive director responds with selfish concerns, asking if the employee left a will or said anything to taint his or the company’s reputation. Chief Oh stares back at him, eyes wide with shock.

Manager Ma continues to complain about Chief Oh’s incompetence, and Chief Jung insists that he has nothing to do with the missing original BL. It’s clear that Manager Ma holds some grudge against Chief Oh, as he threatens the sales manager with an excessive official complaint if Chief Oh doesn’t properly apologize for his actions, which of course, he’s not going to do.

The interns gather for their newbie seminar, and Seok-yul grabs their attention with the inside scoop on Chief Oh’s past. But before he can get started, Deputy Director Sun Ji-young walks into the room to start her seminar. She’s multi-tasking with her presentation and contacting her husband about their daughter’s pick-up responsibilities, but she does so expertly.

After the meeting, Seok-yul tries to cheer up his fellow colleagues by telling Baek-ki that he’s just being hazed with the little work he’s given and by explaining to Young-yi that the resource team is initially awkward with female employees. Seok-yul knows what’s going on in every department without ever having to be told.

Young-yi is scolded by her resource team senior for not completing a task assigned to her. She explains that she prioritized another task because of its impending due date, but he seems offended that she didn’t put in an all-nighter to finish his task as well. He shakes his head and ashes his cigarette at her feet, complaining that women don’t understand the sacrificial mindset. He condescendingly commands her to apologize, and she does so stoically.

On the verge of tears, Young-yi rushes into the bathroom to wash out her eyes. Deputy Director Sun walks in arguing with her husband on the phone about their responsibilities for their daughter. When she gets off the phone, she notices her tears and apologizes to Young-yi for showcasing her private life. She drops something from her bag, and Young-yi picks it up, noticing that it’s her daughter’s drawing of her parents, all drawn in except for their faces.

Geu-rae works silently at his cubicle but keeps glancing back at Chief Oh, who notices his glances and yells at him. Unable to contain his curiosity, Geu-rae texts Seok-yul to get the story behind Chief Oh’s explosive behavior. Geu-rae pays his friend a visit, who gets right to the point: Someone under Chief Oh died.

Based on Seok-yul’s information, an employee under Chief Oh had resigned because of a mistake, and he turned a blind eye. The employee later died in a work-related accident in the job she had to take to make ends meet. Some people at the office blame him for not taking enough responsibility in the matter, and it’s clear that after his outburst, everyone in the office has their eyes on Chief Oh.

The scandal negatively affects the team, as Chief Oh gets calls from other departments asking him to step back from their collaborative contacts. Fed up with the arguments, Chief Oh just lets them take the credit for their work, which upsets Dong-shik. They meet on the roof, and Geu-rae, conveniently on the roof one level higher, eavesdrops.

Dong-shik complains about why Chief Oh never clarified the situation to anyone. The person who pushed for the unreasonable contract was the executive director, and their former employee was the one to take all the blame. Chief Oh says that he still declined to take the blame for the faulty contract instead of her, which was the decision that led to all this mess. He believes that it’s still his fault.

Deputy Director Sun walks through the office thinking about her argument with her husband when suddenly, a woman on the resource team faints. They transfer her to the emergency medical facility, where they’re notified that she’s been overworked during her pregnancy. This clearly hits close to home for Deputy Director Sun.

The resource team complains that their team member is pregnant again and that they’ll have to pick up her slack again. They blame her for being selfish and getting pregnant, and the sexist male employee adds that it’s women who are always the problem. The misogynist resource team looks to Young-yi as they remark how women make so many excuses and have no loyalty.

Young-yi reports to Deputy Director Sun, and she asks why her team member didn’t let anyone know of her pregnancy. Director Sun seems to understand her decision to keep this secret, as this is her third child. Even in the modern workplace, it’s a struggle to be a working mom. She explains: “Working moms are always the culprit, at the workplace, to elders, not to mention, to your children. It’s impossible without the help of your husband. If you want to keep working, don’t plan on marrying, Young-yi. It’s easier that way.”

As Team 3 prepares for their meeting with the resource team, Dong-shik cautiously asks Chief Oh to let him take care of the meeting, but his warning gets ignored. The meeting goes smoothly until the end, when Manager Ma brings up the BL again and accuses Chief Oh of embezzlement. Deputy Director Sun tries to placate him, but he tells her that women need to know their boundaries and stop butting in on these discussions.

Manager Ma tells him to apologize, but Chief Oh insists that he has nothing to apologize for. He accuses him of being irresponsible and evading blame. Chief Oh asks if all this commotion is because of his issue last year: Manager Ma was accused of sexual harassment and Chief Oh stood as witness. The whole room silently reacts, and the conversation continues with Manager Ma defending himself by claiming that it’s the woman’s fault for wearing a low-cut blouse.

He claims that all he said was: “If you’re going to cover your chest every time you bow, might as well just reveal everything.” He looks around shrugging and asking if that’s harassment, but that’s not all he said. Deputy Director Sun speaks up and reminds him of his full statement: “There won’t be much to see even if you did reveal everything.” Again, he shrugs and demands to know if there’s anything wrong with that statement.

That’s enough for Deputy Director Sun, and she storms out of the room as Manager Ma continues his irreverent rant about how strong women are the problem — they take offense at everything. He puts Young-yi on the spotl and asks if what he did was sexual harassment. To the shock of the other employees, she bravely replies that if the woman took offense, then it is indeed sexual harassment. With that, Chief Oh takes his leave, yelling that he’s going to write that official apology as requested.

Manager Ma and the rest of the employees clear out, leaving the newbies to wrap up the meeting. They discuss the confusion around this issue, wondering where the BL disappeared to. Seok-yul comes to the realization that Baek-ki was the intern for the resource team two months ago, when the BL was submitted, and asks if he’s seen it. He quickly denies it and walks out.

Baek-ki seems to know something, as he walks away with a scowl, and Geu-rae follows after him to confirm if he’s seen anything. Baek-ki takes offense at Geu-rae’s suspicion and says that he doesn’t know all the files that cross through the resource team.

He walks away, and frowns at the memory of seeing the BL. He’s confronted once again, this time by Young-yi, who asks him the same question. This time, he tells her the long-winded truth with a dose of workplace politics and reality, saying that even if he did see the BL at the time he was an intern, it wouldn’t help her case. She’s on the resource team now, and revealing this truth wouldn’t help her adjustment.

The office is in shock at the sight of Chief Oh’s official apology email, which says, “I’m kind of very sorry” with an animated apple GIF (“apology” in Korean is sagwa, which literally translates to “apple”). Dong-shik and Geu-rae hang their heads in defeat, but Chief Oh nonchalantly claims to have fulfilled the request. HA.

Of course, Manager Ma and the resource team march over to Chief Oh with more complaints. Meanwhile, quick-witted Young-yi uses this opportunity to look through the resource team’s files, but Baek-ki notices. The argument escalates into a physical fight, as Manager Ma grabs Chief Oh and smacks Dong-shik, who was trying to restrain him. Dong-shik falls over, seemingly injured by the fall.

After the resource team leaves, uninjured Dong-shik gets back to regular business, reporting to Chief Oh that he’s off to deliver documents. This must be a regular occurrence, as Chief Oh nods, leaving Geu-rae close to tears and utterly confused. Heh.

As the apology fight wraps up, Young-yi finally finds the BL. She cleans up her search before the resource team gets back and carries out her regular delivery duties, this time coffee. With Young-yi out of earshot, Chief Oh and the sexist employee discuss how they’re going to resolve this issue, which has been blown out of proportion. He should have just admitted that he forgot to include the BL, but he’s too much of a coward to fess up to it now.

Chief Oh looks at his family portrait on his desk and goes out for a smoke. Geu-rae thinks back to a conversation he overheard about his team being the smallest, with the worst corner location — that’s why he was placed in the team as well. He finds Chief Oh on the rooftop to ask him if he’s covering up for Geu-rae’s rookie mistakes. By this point, he knows Chief Oh’s not the person to do such a thing, so he answers his own question and goes back to work.

On his way back to his desk, Geu-rae runs into Dong-shik and asks him how long documents are kept on file. Dong-shik assumes that he wants to dig through the resource team’s files and tells him that it’s impossible to do so. Chief Oh watches this encounter and tells Dong-shik afterwards that Geu-rae can’t be that stupid to plan on looking through another team’s files.

Chief Oh goes to Deputy Director Sun for some document approvals just as she’s pushing back a meeting to pick up her daughter. He sympathizes with her and acknowledges that men often think less of handing off the parenting responsibilities to the mother — in the end that’s why his wife quit her job. He notes that he should have quit his job to raise the kids instead.

As he walks back to his desk, Chief Oh sees Geu-rae suspiciously loitering around the resource team. Geu-rae and Young-yi exchange looks, prompting him to leave. Baek-ki also loiters around and quickly commends Young-yi in the hallway for not speaking up about her findings.

When Geu-rae returns, Chief Oh yells at him for lurking around the resource team and sends him on a business trip… to pick up Deputy Director Sun’s daughter. She’s opposed to the idea of mixing work and personal life, but Chief Oh insists that she take his favor, as he’s trying to keep his newbie out of trouble.

Geu-rae runs into Young-yi by the elevators, and she can’t hide her worry for Chief Oh. They go to a café, where she apologizes on behalf of her superior, Chief Jung. “Everyone has a part of their past that they don’t want to remember, so I understand Chief Oh’s anger.” Geu-rae responds, saying that he doesn’t think Chief Oh is angry. “He’s tormenting himself. Most mistakes end up as forgotten regrets, but that’s not always the case. Some just stick with you; you can’t forget nor reverse it. To me, Chief Oh looks lonely.”

Geu-rae arrives at the day care to retrieve So-mi, Deputy Director Sun’s daughter. When the caregiver calls out for So-mi, all the children rush out with expectant faces waiting for their mothers.

Seeing their faces, Geu-rae asks if he can play with them in the playground for a while, and the teacher happily agrees to stay afterwards to chaperone. The children have a blast on the playground playing games with Geu-rae, and they slowly leave one by one and So-mi watches with yearning eyes.

At the office, Young-yi looks at Chief Oh and thinks back to Geu-rae’s words about memories that stick with you. Her thoughts are interrupted by Deputy Director Sun, who drops her large stack of papers while on the phone. Young-yi rushes over to help her and accompanies her to the meeting room.

As they prepare for the meeting, Deputy Director Sun sympathizes with Young-yi’s struggles on the resource team, saying that it’s always been a difficult team for women. But that’s also where all the elite workers go, and she seems to be enduring well. After some hesitation, Young-yi asks for advice about her gnawing predicament. “I know doing something is the right thing to do, but I’m afraid that it’ll be harder to endure after doing so.”

Deputy Director Sun responds by asking if it’ll be easier on her if she doesn’t do the right thing, and Young-yi says that she’ll at least avoid criticisms targeting her as a woman. In response to her legitimate fears, she says, “Your conscience doesn’t have to do with sexism.”

As Young-yi watches Geu-rae walk around piggybacking a sleeping So-mi, we get the rest of Director Sun’s answer in voiceover: “Everyone has a conscience. It’s just a matter of whether you don’t act even if you know or act because you know.” With So-mi fast asleep on Geu-rae’s lap, Young-yi tells him the truth. She apologizes for not telling him earlier and says that she can’t hand over the file herself because she’s still part of the resource team.

She gives him a note with the locker combination and file location, and he thanks her for the information. Geu-rae leaves Young-yi with So-mi, which confuses the teacher when she returns. The teacher asks if they’re dating, and after a vehement denial from Young-yi, she asks for Geu-rae’s number. Hee, he’s got an admirer.

Geu-rae looks through the resource team files with Young-yi’s directions but can’t find the BL file as indicated. Then he gets caught red-handed by Chief Jung, who grabs him by his collar and immediately assumes that Chief Oh sent him to do the dirty work. He insults Chief Oh and calls him right away, but he’s standing right behind them with the BL in hand.

They take it to the roof, where Chief Jung stammers his bluff, questioning whether or not the BL really came from the resource team files. But Chief Oh tells him that they both know who the real culprit is, and someone else also knows that the document was with the resource team. He warns him not to bring up his past or mess with his team members. Handing him the BL file, he orders Chief Jung to turn it in himself and submit an official apology. When Chief Jung whines suddenly in honorifics, Chief Oh turns around ready to poke his eyes out. Heh.

When Chief Oh returns, Geu-rae stands up and lowers his head. He apologizes, but Chief Oh replies with an unexpected offer to get a drink. Geu-rae’s vision of Chief Oh turns the city lights into hearts around him, and he needs a moment to snap into reality and understand what he’s actually saying, and they eventually go out for drinks. Geu-rae tries to break the awkward silence by asking who told him the resource team cabinet passcode, but Chief Oh leaves it ambiguous, saying that someone just did.

That particular someone seems to be Baek-ki, as we cut to him walking through the office. He sees Young-yi arrive to hang Geu-rae’s suit jacket on his chair, and she notices him. They exchange silent glances as another day at the office comes to a close.

Supermom Deputy Director Sun’s day is far from over, as she sings a lullaby for her daughter before she folds laundry, does the dishes, and cleans the shelves. As she gets ready to do her own work, she sees her daughter’s drawing again and wonders why she didn’t draw her face. Her husband arrives, and she shows him the drawing. Before they go to sleep, she wonders what all this is for. “We’re working hard for ourselves, but we seem to be suffering because of it.” Her husband optimistically states that it’ll get better when So-mi grows up.

As she drops off So-mi at day care the next morning while busily chatting on the phone for work, Deputy Director Sun finally realizes why she didn’t have a face on her daughter’s drawing. So-mi only got to see the back of her head as she swiftly left for work every day. She gets off the phone, gets down to So-mi’s level, and gives her a hug. In tears, she asks So-mi to draw a picture of her today.

Chief Oh busily gets ready for work, frantically asking his wife where his socks are. He quickly slips them on, ruffles his three boys’ hair, and heads out the door. But the door won’t open because Geu-rae is sleeping (and drooling) against it. Looks like he didn’t make it home after escorting a drunk Chief Oh home last night. Chief Oh pushes the door open to wake him, and he quickly gets up with crazy hair, to three laughing boys. Welcome to office life, my friend.

 
COMMENTS

This drama keeps growing on me in all the right ways. A large dose of reality from the lens of a lonely yet earnest introvert is a great way illustrate the daily grind of the everyday salary man and woman. Chief Oh is great, simultaneously hating his job yet caring too much about it. It’s so fitting that he has his resignation at hand, ready for that one big bang that’ll seal the deal. I’m loving the gradual melting of Chief Oh’s exterior, especially as Geu-rae begins to pick up on his loneliness, something that he understands so deeply. Behind all that tough exterior, he really does care about his team. The team is slowly growing on each other, and I can’t wait for them to be best buds.

I’m glad we got a solid introduction into the subject of women in the office, and I’m sure this will be an ongoing theme. It’s not an easy issue to tackle with the appropriate balance of reality and sensitivity, but we managed to get some prime examples of sexism in the workplace, like that distasteful Manager Ma, who makes my blood boil. Though Manager Ma was probably on the extreme end of that spectrum, I wouldn’t consider his sentiments all that shocking. Sexual harassment and misogyny are still prevalent in the workplace, and his extreme example isn’t one to overlook. I appreciate that the issue of harassment was dealt with in a mature manner, and the reactions from our two women seem appropriate. Sometimes you’ve got to bite your tongue; other times, you’ve got to speak up.

I thought the convergence of our two women, Young-yi and Deputy Director Sun, was quite neat. Even though they’re in different parts of their careers and lives, they share the same inherent struggles of being a woman in the office. I thought the scene in the women’s bathroom was particularly interesting, as both women show us different struggles at the workplace that have to do with their gender — Young-yi having to bite her tongue in front of her condescending superior who looks down on her because she’s a woman, and Deputy Director Sun, who has to juggle being a mother and a successful full-time employee.

The fact that her daughter didn’t draw faces on the picture of her parents reveals a sad reality about her life: Her daughter doesn’t see her parents enough to know what their faces look like. It’s heartbreaking to think that she didn’t finish drawing the picture because of this fact, but I can almost guarantee that this trend won’t be broken any time soon. As her husband noted, most parents believe that their devotion to work will be worth it and that things will get better as their children grow up. But most of the time, just being there is what makes all the difference. Both parents don’t have that time for sweet little So-mi (who is just so adorable), and that’s just one of the many sacrifices of the salary men and women who share this incompleteness in life. So snaps and kudos to working parents, especially those working moms out there who tend to carry the heavier burden of motherhood.

Baek-ki is still a mystery, yet his motivations seem to be clearer in this episode. While his main driving force is his own ambition, he also seems to have an attraction towards Young-yi, which motivated him to be a source for Chief Oh. He’s extra friendly and helpful around her, but she doesn’t seem to reciprocate any of his energy. Her passiveness makes her more similar to Geu-rae than Baek-ki, which has me wondering about the potential for a love triangle between these three. At this point, I’d rather that not happen, but dramas will be dramas, and I saw a little foreshadowing of that in this episode.

Young-yi is also a mystery, but the show keeps dropping little hints and details about her character. She’s fiercely independent and hardworking, and she also seems to have a difficult past, as she seemed particularly empathetic towards Chief Oh’s situation. Something about her past made her into the person she is today, and the show is doing a good job of keeping me invested. Like Chief Oh, she seems to be tormenting herself over something, and it’s suffocating her. She’s such an interesting character, and I hope she somehow finds a way to put her guard down. And from the looks of it, earnest Geu-rae seems to be doing the trick.

 
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I am usually a sucker for romantic comedies, so it is to my own surprise that I actually watch this series. Even some romantic comedies can only get my reading time, not watching time but this series have gotten me watching it.

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The heart shaped reflections behind Mr. Oh made me cry out loud. I really LOVE this show. :D :D :D

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me too!

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Hullo newbie.. I loved that bit too! And how he had to slightly shake his head again to see it turn back to city lights.

I love how the show is starting to incorporate some magical realism elements to better portray the character's emotions and feelings of that moment. Really well done.

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Hi Enz! It is too cute, how Geu Rae adores Mr. Oh. In another episode, when Mr. Oh was talking in his favor Geu Rae lookeed like he would kill for him. Oh is the long needed father figure. My OTP. ;)

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Chief Oh is just wonderful!! ❤❤❤

I'm not surprised that DS was frustrated with Oh on keeping mum about the issue in regards to their former co-worker. Loving the growing camaraderie between Sales Team 3 members!! Adore them individually and as a unit they're just LOVE!!

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If that's not proof that they're the ultimate OTP of this show, I don't know what is!

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I was watching and listening and thought, "Wow, those lights look like hearts...funny...wait, they ARE hearts."
Then rewound to make sure they weren't there the whole time. This bit was A MAZING. It is my favorite image of the whole year.

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Lol. I did just the same! Had to rewind to make sure I didn't imagine it. :D

Btw I really enjoyed your recaps of My Spring Days. They helped me not to watch the last episode, which would have been to hard to stomach. Your insights were enough for me, I'm at peace with the ending now. <3

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my reaction was the same! it's "hey, there are hearts floating around diretor oh's head!" and then i did a geu rae and it turned to city lights again!

i didnt rewind though but loved that so much.

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I know, those twinkling hearts, and Chief Oh's trembling gaze ... I absolutely LOL'd!

This show is redefining the meaning of "OTP" for me! I love Chief Oh and Geu Rae! I love Chief Oh and Dong Shik! Heck, I might even love Geu Rae and Seok Yul! Too many exclamation marks!

And last but not least, thanks for the recaps, dramallama!

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Oh I just lost everything I wrote!!! Nevermind... Here's the gist of it.

Thanks dramallama for the great recap! You caught stuff that I missed... just makes me want to watch again.

I was spitting mad at the sexism and prejudice in this episode. What it amounted to was verbal abuse - the accusing (falsely and unfairly) and judging loudly so that the women will hear... to make them feel bad, ... the just "putting them in their place" so as to boost their own male egos or camaraderie, without regard to improving productivity or helping a person to learn. It was plain immaturity and unmitigated meanness. The worst of it is that they get away with it again and again and no one can or will say anything. Sooo angry!

WRT to the mystery of Young Yi. I recall that she seems to live alone and that she does not like physical contact. In a previous episode, she declined to even shake hands. Another introverted, lonely soul and maybe able to identify with Geu Rae who needed her help in the beginning and who is the underdog.

WRT to what you wrote: "Baek-ki is still a mystery, yet his motivations seem to be clearer in this episode. While his main driving force is his own ambition, he also seems to have an attraction towards Young-yi, which motivated him to be a source for Chief Oh. He’s extra friendly and helpful around her, but she doesn’t seem to reciprocate any of his energy. Her passiveness makes her more similar to Geu-rae than Baek-ki, which has me wondering about the potential for a love triangle between these three."

I did think that Baek Ki would not have taken action to help Mgr Oh, except for the fact that Young Yi might get into trouble, therefore he pre-empted and it saved Geu Rae as well.

Definitely, I will only want a romantic relationship arc if it comes about naturally, and not to just satisfy the "requirements of a drama" or be fan service. And then the triangle may be between the pre-school teacher, Young Yi and Geu Rae instead!!! Heh! Heh! I hope we see that teacher again!

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As someone who was raised by both working parents, this episode made me tear up. This show is a great tribute to the unsung heroes of everyday life.

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What is this reckless transmission of documents in that office lmao. That issue they have is so petty, it would have been ok if they're like only 6 people in the office but a big office like one international has no receiving transmittal lmao. Ok I guess because they want to add the drama accompanying it but it's so ridiculous of a mistake.
Those resource guys are so annoying. They kind of substitute those bitter interns since the latter was already cut out lol. Women in their office are being treated as errandmen for
God sake they seriously need a seminar for gender development grrr.

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yeah i agree about the document mishap.. in a real office setting that would've been settled in minutes..ridiculous!! but i still love this drama anyways.

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I don't know. Maybe it's got to do with 'losing face'. Oh's position is not the best in the company and they thought they could blame him and save their asses and reputation. I'm pretty sure things like honor etc. come into play, too, things we Westerners see differently.

Anyone with an Asian business background able to enlighten us?

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Actually, the point IS that it was a totally trivial matter. The manager just blew it entirely out of proportion because he wanted to get his revenge from Chief Oh when he stood witness in the sexual harassment case. And also the other Chief was too cowardly to admit to his mistake because he was afraid of being reprimanded for his mistake. Clearly shows the type of boss-subordinate relationship they have. One of the gems about this show is the rich undertones and nuances they have

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Sigh - comment truncated. Reminder to self not to try to edit comments on the mobile site...

Anyway what I meant to say was that the rich undertones and the nuances are fantastic in the show. The office life is really used as a way of highlighting the struggles of the daily man, which I find easy to resonated with. All the pitfalls of being a salary person!!!

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Thank you for the great recap :D What an excellent episode

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actually there's more to Chief Oh's apology email than meets the eye! the words "jom mani" at the end of the email not only sounds super insincere but also rhymes with a very vulgar curse in Korean (to the effect of "F U"). That's why Manager Ma got extra worked up when Chief Oh repeated that in his face when he went to complain. It was so hilarious, I loved Geu-rae and Dong-shik's response.

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Oh, how I've had that fantasy when I've had to tender undeserved "apologies" to coworkers. I was laughing hysterically during that whole scene. Thanks, Manager Oh, for letting me indulge vicariously.

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Yes, that's why DS told GR to read out loud the sentence,
and that's why GR dropped his head reading "I'm sorry...jom mani" hahaha

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I love that pfft merong apple.

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Thank you for the explanation.

Loved the visual on the apology letter. The Apple was a HILARIOUS TOUCH! The worm coming out made me LMAO!
Kinda reminded me of Chief Oh sticking his tongue back at him.

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Thanks for the explanation makes it double funny!

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I think the subs I watched translated it as: "I'm frigging sorry". Loved it. The apple gif was priceless.

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I love the last scene, when Chief Oh wake him up and look at Geu rae's face *save picture*

Another unexpected episode, though doesn't as trembling as episode 4, but it kills me (in a good way). I just love the show..
Thank you dramallama, just love your comment. Awesome...

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dramallama ~

Thanks for the recap. I'm really enjoying the show. Nice cast of characters. Crazy office behavior!

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I feel stress watching misaeng because of all the conflict but still i keep watching it..usually i dont really watch other than rom com but this is an exception..to relieve the stress from watching misaeng,, i watch modern farmer..

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Oh my goodness...I watch Misaeng...and I really love it but then I get really depressed. Esp the way they were treating Young Yi upset me. Then eventually, I'll be like I need a pick me up and I'll watch an episode of Modern Farmer with popcorn and laugh. But I can't do it right away, or I'll feel like Modern Farmer is too happy. Anyways, the comedy-drama really settles down by episode 6. It's still quirky funny but it's got heart too.

As girlfriday and dramabeans said in their podcast, we like the 2 dramas for the opposite reasons. But what they do share is character development and heart ^^ And can I just say Lee Honey is outstanding. Has anyone saw her in Pasta or Tazza?

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I wonder if they're going to pull a Harry Potter, where the lead male and the lead female aren't fated to pair up ... I'd like it to be that way, because it would detract from the actual greatness of this show.

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Misaeng how to I love thee! I love those heart shaped bokeh lights which shows how much Geu-rae adores Mr. Oh.

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I thought I was the only one that noticed them, didn't realise they were done on purpose duh...

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Ok, I love this show to bits, but I work in a corporate setting, and this episode stretched a lot of scenarios beyond credulity.

1. Hitting/pushing/grabbing people (battery) or threatening physical harm (assault) is simply not tolerated in the workplace. These are very serious infractions that could get you fired, not to mention they are crimes. But this episode made the workplace seem like a World Wrestling Federation match, which it is not.

2. A team manager would not go from discovering a missing document to suddenly accusing another team manager of basically embezzling company money, before at least checking for the missing document in the file cabinet that was RIGHT THERE. That level of stupidity is too much to believe.

3. It also strains credulity that a top manager would, in a big company wide meeting, go so far as to talk about stuff like women with low shirts should be able to let it all hang out and that he didn't reach inside to fondle her and whatnot. Yes, sexual harassment in the workplace is a serious problem, and I'm sure that in S Korea, the problem is magnified. But it's simply not believable that a top corporate manager would embarrass themselves like that in such a stupid and unprofessional manner.

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Unprofessional is putting it mildly. That's what makes it so juicy though.

Not even `basic document handling protocol regarding the B/L.

The open hostility towards the women is outrageous.

As far as romance goes, both Geu-rae and Young-yi are young and attractive, so to see a member of the opposite sex take notice of them is realistic enough, as witnessed by the school teacher's interest in Geu-rae.

Chief Oh's anticipation of having the lovely Young-yi on his team is true to life. Most men would welcome a beautiful co worker joining the team.

I don't know if Baek-ki harbors any feelings towards Young-yi , but he is probably a wrist grabber.

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Lol I agree, is unbelievable that kind of behavior at an office,the shouting, the fighting, and even the issue of Baek ki not having any work because the seniors of his team don't feel like it. As I said before the B/L issue is rather silly.

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The whole saving face thing is amazing if you have ever had to deal with it in real life. And yes, lying and cruelty is permitted! So it's countering embarrassment with embarrassment. It's often very messy to watch. And hierarchical societies can lead to a kind of weird immaturity and pettiness from the folks at top.

Here is something on bullying in korean workplaces. Seems it's as common as sexual harrassment.

https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/Publications/abstract.aspx?ID=262427

Definiteyl agree on the document though.

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@nan I didn't think these scenarios were all that far-fetched within the realm of K-drama 'drama'. People get physical in dramas anyway, so the fighting didn't strike me as out of the norm, even in a corporate setting and in a drama that's more realistic than most.

It seemed to me that Dick Manager was only happy to accuse Chief Oh because of his resentment towards him for being a witness in the sexual harassment case against him. It was his ego and his need for payback at work. So I don't find it incredulous at all that a grotesque oaf like him would defend himself at that meeting so openly and so crassly. Men like him do exist and freely share their sexist views, in and out of the office.

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Yes, I get that the oaf feels the need for payback, but to be stupid enough to make such a serious, defamatory accusation without even checking his own file cabinet first (and shredding the doc if he wants to be evil)? Too stupid to believe.

I am well aware that sexism and sexual harassment are frequent occurrences in the workplace. But even the worst misogynists still have to think about their own self interest.

First, it reflects very, very poorly on one's work performance to waste time at an important meeting going off on a personal rant. Second, Director Sun in this show is probably ranked higher than the oaf (since she was the person running the meeting). The powers that be clearly like her enough to have promoted her to her current position. Even the worst misogynists are not stupid enough to disrespect important people who potentially have power over them in such a brazen manner like yelling "Shut up woman!" in front of everyone. That situation is just not realistic. Misogynists at work are a-holes but not stupid, unfortunately.

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All I can say is that the misogynists I have had to deal with in my workplace are not models of enlightened self-interest or rationality. You'd be surprised.

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Korea DOES have one of the worst cases of gender equality... glad they mention it.

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Hi Misaeng lovers... I have a question and observation.

Manager Oh has his family photo on his table and looks at it from time to time, but he always places it face down. Any guesses why? It's obvious he's fond of his family, so why not have the photo up where he can see it all the time?

When Geu Rae and Manager Oh went for a drink, it was a defining moment in their relationship... at last the acknowledgement that he really was one of the team. And Manager Oh went further than that, by pouring Geu Rae a drink and putting food on his plate, when it is usually the junior who should serve the senior. That was so nice of him, and so much said without words.

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I think the love for his family would distract him probably. He might keep staring at the picture instead of working. Sometimes I open my purse to do something but the pic of my parents holds my attention for a while before I have to remember to do what I'm supposed to. So he leaves it down and at the moment when he needs a strong reminder of why he's working so hard, he takes the time to give it a look.

It may be something like that..... :)

....as well as it may not. :|

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I think it's a case of shame. We see in the final scene, the great relationship Mgr. Oh has w/his family and how proud he is of his sons (see Ep6). We also hear Mgr. Oh say, his family is the only reason he works for the company. He turns over the family photo because he isn't proud of the way he behaves at work & he doesn't want his family to see what he does to survive in the cube world.

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Great idea. Or it could be guilt, because he isn't at home as much as he wants to and he comes home drunk pretty much every night.

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I agree, I feel from this and the next episode that life has not gone the way he wanted (no promotion, ashamed of his past lack of action etc...) so he feels shame to face his family. At least that is what I got, but it also did make me wonder why he did it.

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Hi Arhazivory, DeeDe315, Newbie and tweetpandora

Thanks for all your responses! I find that I actually agree with all of you. The concept of shame (avoiding it, actually) is actually a very strong element in Asian society, and for a man in a patriarchal (man-is-the-bread-winner and protector) society, it might be worse. He probably felt he did not live up to his own idea of what a successful husband and father should be.

The closest I got on my own was a feeling that he did not want his family to be part of his "ugly" work world... that he kept them on his table to keep his spirits up from time to time but that it was a lousy place for them to be, so he kept them face down so that they could not "see", so to speak. But I like your insights a whole lot and sounds more likely too!! Thanks again!

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@DeeDe315: I agree with you!

He's not in a high-ranking position like his classmate Deputy Director Sun, and he's certainly not a doctor or lawyer or in one of the (so-called) glamorous professions. His job isn't something that gives him a sense of pride or fulfilment, or even that much power. He's just an Everyman "salaryman" who slogs away from Mon to Fri and often on weekends (hiking with the director, heh).

But I love how they show that these unremarkable, ordinary office workers are heroes in their way, who face personal battles everyday and struggle to maintain their integrity in the face of a thousand small paper cuts.

It reminds me of a song by Tortoise Matsumoto called "Here Comes The Hero" - it's an ode to the salarymen who feel like they're just living a life of soulless drudgery day in/day out, getting drunk with their colleagues after work, and venting their stress about copping flack from the boss or the dreams they wanted to pursue when they were young. But it's also an anthem to say, "be strong - fighting!"

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Ah! The amount of sexism I noticed in today's episode is enough to make me pull my hair out! If this is a working woman's reality in Korea, then kudos to them. They are put through a lot. Rarely does a kdrama highlight the treatments female employees go through, while working in a male dominated field, and this is another reason I love this drama so much, for its unapologetically realistic portrayal of life.

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I thought Young-yi was Geu-rae’s love interest not some cute but nameless teacher. Oh well I don't expect it to be developed very far either way.

You know what's weird, right now tvN has two very different characters from two very different dramas of opposite sexes who make me feel. Specifically they, being Geu-rae here and Da-Jung in Liar Game, make me want to shrink them to the size of Thumbelina and keep them in a thimble while I shield them from the rest of the world. Is that odd?

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Ah this weekend's Misaeng! So heartbreaking! Working at home, I'd totally forgotten how selfish and unenlightened folks in the outside world/workplace can be.

Yay to showing women's viewpoint in a really harsh non-humorous manner. Humor washes away and dilutes the pain and I don't want the pain of sexism diluted. Although i haven't seen Greatest Marriage, I'm asuming this drama is showing the problems of women in sexist patriarchal workplaces waaaaaaaay more realistically.

I was thinking the little girl's pics weren't of faceless parents but of people who were always "going away" or "lying on the couch resting from their horrible workdays."

Am thinking I want Geu Rae and the kindergarten teacher together. Am usually not one to say "X & Y look good together" but I think they would be a cute couple. Plus I don't want Geu-Rae involved with someone at work. It'd be too much for him.

Anyone else want Geu-Rae's mom and Chief Oh's wife to becme BFF's. Geu-Rae and his mom both need an extended family. They're all alone together. ;-)

Thanks so much for the recap.

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Sexism is alive and well in work place. Both my Husband and I work in a fairly large institution, but our immediate supervisor always addresses my Hubs with his title and yet call me by my first name. I tolerated it since I didn't want to " rock the boat". I endure it quietly. But, I'm telling you, when that dummy asked me to get him a glass of water at our annual dinner and my Husband, without missing a beat, waved for a waiter & requested it for that SOB, I was bursting in joy. The bonus was that My Husband told that jerk that since it's a casual setting, we can all be called by our first names but during any meeting, I preferred using my maiden last name for my title. I know it's a minor thing but I also know that's my Husband's diplomatic way to tell dum dum to stop being a sexist(& yet not getting us in trouble).Trust me, that glass of water would not have been drunk ?

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3 cheers for your hubby - good on him. He obviously also has good taste in women! :)

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yay!!!!!!! Hope the supervisor got the message

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I agree, I thought the daughter didn't draw the face, because she sees her mother so seldom she isn't able to put a face to her. But mom most definitely learned some valuable stuff in this ep.

The kindergarten teacher was cute, but I fear we'll see, that Geu Rae won't have the time to date. Or she is the one that will trigger jealousy in Young Yi.

I'm still uncertain whether I want to see him succeed claiming his place within the company or not. He seemed to be so much happier playing with the kids than working in the office. I always want to yell at the screen: There are other career options better suited for you!

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yes, why become a salaryman and lose all joy? Get lesser money, less stress. Not sure how long the webtoon went on for. I can't see liking/wanting Geu Raw to fit into this system.

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Yes, unfortunately, the reality is that it's difficult for many women to reach their full potential in the workplace - you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. That goes for all behaviours - the way you assert yourself/don't assert yourself, the way you dress, whether you take maternity leave or not, etc.

I liked the moment between Chief Oh and Deputy Director Sun when he sympathised with her situation, and even suggested he should look after his kids (although of course he was partly referring to the fact that his job wasn't going so well).

From the way he talked about his wife resigning from her job, it sounds like it was a decision she made, instead of the husband automatically assuming she'd quit for the kids. If that's the case, then props to Chief Oh! even if their final choice came down to the inevitable, "he earns more money than her".

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At first, i have doubts about this drama since it's based on a webtoon. But as i watched episode 1, i fell for it hook, line and sinker..and i have a marathon of watching all six episodes! Definitely a first for me! I am very picky of what k drama i watched, so to have me watch a drama back to back episode is nothing short of a miracle.

There must be something traumatic in Young-yi's life at some point. It seems that she's restarting a new life.. remember the nameless caller she once got(and she rejected it)? how about her apartment with all the unpacked stuff? She hates being touched but Geu Rae did grabbed her arm on his first day but since he seemed trouble and did not pose a threat to her, she did not reprimanded him. after that, noticed that Geu Rae never even offer his hand for a shake. He is always polite and keep his distance from her(maybe he's shy) but that makes her comfortable with him. Baek Ki always try to help her now an then, which irks her.. she seemed to try to prove that she can live without a man's help. so, yes, definitely there's a bigger story there.

The actors are all perfectly cast here, so kudos to the directors and his casting crew! I know Siwan used to act as supporting roles in a few dramas like the Moon Embraces the Sun, Equator Man, the sitcom Standby, the mediocre Triangle(that drama focused too much on kim jaejoong's character..what so triangle abt it?) but he's quite good on drama special Waiting For Love and the movie, The Attorney.. but here, he really shines. Oooh, Kwanghee must be extra jealous of him! lol. Oh, i kinda like Suk Yool too.. heh..he's the office gossip collector!

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Wow the 'office intelligence' - aka office gossip - Seok-Yul gathers is pretty impressive. Since many of us here are watching this show n Modern Farmers - Seok Yul's equivalent counterpart in that drama would be Man goo's mother whom Hyuk hilariously calls 'the village megaphone' - hahahahaha.

I think that Sales Team 3 is always having to defend themselves that they have worked out a 'time-out' fake-out with Dongsik falling an hurting his head.

Am loving this show!

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lol! Love the village megaphone and how they "dragged" the gossip out of her. "They were famous in the village for being sickeningly in love." I'm waiting for an equally funny line from SukYul.

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Re Young-yi's "past" - I think you're right.

She's clearly confident in her abilities and prepared to stick to her guns (hooray for when she stood up to Manager Ma about sexual harassment- call a spade a spade!). But despite all that, she's strangely quiet and self-deprecating, and doesn't smile a lot.

I like how all our interns aren't cardboard characters - I'm excited for their growth!

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By far the best episode yet for me! I loved that hardships of the women got the spot-light and I really REALLY hope it isn't a one-off. I so want Young Yi and Director Sun to bond big time!

I love how this show can take the most mundane office shenanigans and petty office rivalries and mine them for nail-biting tension and conflict. And that's because the show has made me care so much about all these characters and I agonise alongside them every step of the way.

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Thanks, dramallama~ Women in the work force as an ongoing theme is popular in kdramas as we speak (Greatest Marriage, Pride and Prejudice, for starters). Also, the theme of office politics running laterally and deeply is well portrayed. It is a story of life's fine lines between work/family; loyalty/truth; men/women in workplace; apology/pride; protection/exposure.

It is intriguing to see how the departments keep to themselves (even though they are the same company), but are selectively protective of their team members - women, weak links (perceived or real), those with without connections have to live as if they are on borrowed time. This batch of newbies has to learn the ropes, and while their hearts and consciences may lead them one way (Young-yi searching for the document, Geu-rae picking up Deputy Director Sun's daughter), it's a gamble as to whether there will be fall-out over such decisions. Baek-ki falls to the side of figuring out which side to be on

Chief Oh is the embodiment of the ongoing conflict of balancing the demands of work, home, and conscience, one's past.

Fabulous acting all around.

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+1!

Good on them for showing the reality of working parents, both good and bad - like Deputy Director Sun doing all the housework after a full day's work, but also showing the impact on her daughter, in a non-judgemental way - it really brings home that Abnormal Summit topic about working mothers!

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Am I the only one who thinks the kindergarten teacher + Geu Rae would be super cute?

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I'll have to say earlier I claimed that I would be fine w/o romance between GR and YY but when the kindergarten teacher asked for GR's number I was all, "NOOO!!! If there be any romance in this drama it better be b/w GR n YY!!" These two are quite similar and it'll be adorable since they're already aware of each other!!

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Am with you on that one!! I am already a shipper

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Haha I think she'll be used as a platform to make YY a bit jealous or make her realize that Jang Geurae is actually quite a handsome/impressive guy. And we know he already has a bit of a crush on JGR ;)

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this is going to sound horrible but i kinda want those two girls to kinda "fight" over geu-rae because i feel that he needs the attention that he's deprived for so so long because no one bothered to give him a second look.

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Haha, I agree. I really like that her character seems very deep and very real. More than meets the eye I suppose, I hope we get more character development in the future!

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I'm on this ship as well. He needs a life outside of work...in the same way Chief Oh has a life far from work.The officeworker whose wife got pregnant the third time --- that shows how a family can be doubly insulted.

She seems too old for him ---although i like noona romances. But her baggage is a bit too much. And for all we know she's in the middle of a divorce or complicated relationship.I want pure oy for Geu-Rae.

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Are you talking about the daycare teacher or Young Yi? Because Young Yi is the same age as Geu Rae according to character profiles. Kang Sora herself is two years younger than Im Shi-wan.

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I really like this drama. I work at a shipping company, so the BL issue for me was incomprehensible (really silly) but it served its purpose I guess.
I look forward more episodes.

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I replayed the final scene with the sleeping Geu-Rae so many times, sooo funny. I really really love this drama. I love the funny and contemplative moments, also glad that Geu-Rae is starting to break out of his shell. Am excited for where this drama will take us.

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My god! I love it too, when chief oh pushed the door and geurae moved along. Need gif for this. Also geurae innocent looks while roaming around Resource team place.

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Yes! that actual drool coming out of Geu Rae's mouth... and that bed (door) hair - unforgettable!

I wanna see more of him with Chief Oh's kids!

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Seok-yul is just a fun busybody and I'm loving the way the actor's playing him!! He's a hoot!! I look forward to the bickering b/w him and GR blossoming into a tight bromance.

The two screen caps of GR playing with the kindergartners in the playground are adorable!!

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I thought it was adorable how he played with the kindergarteners. Makes me think that real life Im Siwan would make a great dad :)

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I was absolutely giggling to see that natural, full-of-enjoyment smile on Geu Rae's face as he played with the children. It was so heartwarming,...and soooo different from how he looks in the office.

That contrast makes me a little sad. What are we doing with our lives if in our days and weeks, we hardly ever get to smile like that!!!

It makes me think of the faceless drawings and how we have to put on the serious, business-like face, the polite-keep-your-distance face, the cool look, etc and are hardly ever totally relaxed and our happiest ourselves in an office environment.

I guess that it becomes understandable why we see office workers go out to binge drink and karaoke and really let their hair down. Not healthy, rather sad.

I'd like more chances for Geu Rae to play with the kids, and meet the teacher!!! (Yes she actually looks quite right for him). Anyone up to play hookey and go to the playground?

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Considering that GR had to train for baduk since a young child - he did not have a 'normal' childhood - hence enjoying the 'delayed' play time with the kids.

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Hmmm, yes,... that could very well be the case. The only childhood flashbacks are of him and Baduk. He does not seem to have any childhood friends!!!

That scene: He looked around at all those hopeful little faces and considered how they were just waiting. Since he would have to wait too, he must have thought, ... might as well enjoy himself and their company. It was a short but good break from office.

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There is a Seok-yul in every office. Really truly! Maybe more than one.

They're scarcely at their desks because they're going around chatting with everyone, and they're usually terrible at doing their work. But it's true that they know everything - who's the VIP client in the meeting room? Why did so-and-so get fired? What's going to be the theme for the upcoming Christmas party?

That's a skill that not everyone has, for sure. And I gotta respect that (sometimes)!

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I hated these two last episodes :(

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Why? I thought they really helped flesh out the characters more and also the ending to episode 6 was so sweet. It was super dramatic to the point of straight up comical but otherwise there was a lot of character development. JGR is still struggling and making mistakes but he's also growing and working super hard and it's been great seeing that. The only complaint I have now is of Baek-ki who is slowly developing into our "villain".

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I had the same thought.

For now, I think it's just that GR is the opposite of BK in every way possible, from his education and skills, to the way he approaches people without any preconception or calculation, and BK's just mystified watching how people react to GR and open up to him, and wondering if a guy like our Puppy GR can possibly become the "rival" of a Doberman like BK!

I like seeing Baek Ki lose his poise. After all, he's as much a newbie as Geu Rae, and they're all navigating this new world together.

I do think that BK's frustrated right now with his job, and his interest in Young-yi might turn into some jealous anti-GR moves, but I'm putting my faith in the fact that he seemed like a pretty fair guy during the internship, with a sense of justice. I'll keep my other Baek Ki comments for the Ep 6 recap!

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hah! for me, it is the last two episodes that made me fall in love with the drama.

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I really wanted Chief Oh to just apologize, like his two team mates wanted him to. The more pain that came up because of the conflict, I kept thinking "just let them have what they want, you know the truth" however towards the end I was so PROUD that Chief Oh did NOT give in. He made such a bigger impact because he did not waiver!!!! Great job Chief Oh!

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You have no idea how many times I wanted to jump into the screen and give that Manager Ma a good punch. Geeezzzz What rights does he have to look down on women.

Hmm anyway, I love how the show emphasizes on sexism in the office which is still pretty much an issue in Korea and some other Asian countries. The show keeps growing strong on me, steadily climbing up my list of top fav dramas this year. Now cannot wait for your recap on ep 6.

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Ep 5 gave me a HUGE case of the warm fuzzies, and I loved it!!

Dong Shik is totally Chief Oh's "office wife". They've got their routine down to a tee - it's perfect!

General: the show does a good job of portraying the big issues, like the office politics, the not-so-subtle misogynistic culture, and dog-eat-dog ladder-climbing shenanigans, as well as the minor but chronic problems, like the daily mini-crisis multi-deadline groundhog days of the work routine, and all the little inconveniences, indignities and petty injustices of work life and colleagues.

However, ultimately, there's a message of hope: at the end of the day, it takes all kinds to make the world go round. It's the little moments of camaraderie, and challenges overcome together, and small gestures of personal courage to face each day, that make me root for all the characters so far - even the next-door section chief has his finer points. (Well, all except Manager Ma.)

Having said that, though - those guys in the Resources team better get their heads straight pronto. I know that newbies tend to get a rough initiation, but they've got ace intern Young-yi, who's coveted by all the other teams - don't they know how lucky they are to have her?!

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What I don't get is that Resources and the Sales Team who got Baek Ki have evaluated those interns for 2 months already, they've seen them do the PT and these are the cream of the crop that they have with them. So what is this issue of not letting them do any worthwhile work or learn on the job?

Is it to make the newbies feel that they are not as important as they'd like to believe ...ie deflate their egos?

Why not share the workload a bit and if there's so much resentment about newbies, why not make them earn their keep? Such a waste of resources!!!

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Not to mention a waste of talent and opportunity to have friendship and support too!

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With all the power play and ego peacock-strutting I've seen going on so far, yes, I definitely think they're telling the newbies not to get "ideas above their station".

I think there's also an element of flaunting their ace interns in everyone's faces - kind of: we've got them, and you haven't, neener neener?

(Oh, and btw, since we've got them, we'll treat 'em as badly as we like. That's gonna go so well. In kdramas, doesn't it usually pan out that the old boss someday ends up working for the newbie they tortured...?)

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Yeah, that's one sequel I'd like to see... cruel bosses having to kiss up to the people they bullied or their bullying resulting in their own failure, and then they are forced to give the newbies the credit for success they (bosses) could have attained but couldn't, because of their small-mindedness and near-sightedness.

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Loved the theme, loved this episode!

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Are we still living in the 50's? The unapologetic gender discrimination is appalling. We lost Bitter Intern only to get Bitter Senior. The no-holds-barred meeting was an eye-opener. I LOVE Chief Oh's "apology." I cheered so hard at his wordplay. Well, that explains why he hates the executive director. Can't blame him.

BAEK KI!! I knew you were good. I wanted to talk Geu Rae out of stealing the original BL because the resource team can just claim they never gave it them. They have to be caught red-handed by a third party before the office believes Sales Team 3. I really wish we got to see the conclusion of it. Did Chief Jung confess? What was Manager Ma's reaction? Was he coerced into publishing an official apology? I was worried the BL would fly away on the roof, or worse, Chief Jung would let the wind take it.

Thanks for the recap, dramallama!

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"I wanted to talk Geu Rae out of stealing the original BL because the resource team can just claim they never gave it them."

Yes, I was hoping Chief Oh/Dong Shik/Seok Yul would talk him out of it, since he's obviously the world's most clueless detective! On the other hand, we got to see GR do the funniest lurking ever - that gormless expression in the top screencap is just priceless!

"I was worried the BL would fly away on the roof, or worse, Chief Jung would let the wind take it."

I actually think that was the point that Chief Oh was making. Proving what happened with the BL ended up being less important in the scheme of things - making a big issue out of it made it snowball into something that only injured employee morale, deepened the divisions between teams and benefited no-one, least of all the company.

My take on it is that Chief Oh was basically saying: the BL issue got blown out of proportion, and making everyone uncomfortable isn't the adult thing to do, so let's call it quits and all get on with our jobs.

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"Are we still living in the 50’s? The unapologetic gender discrimination is appalling. We lost Bitter Intern only to get Bitter Senior."

Bitter Intern wasn't a misogynist, he was just "innocently" disrespectful and intrusive. My guess was that this was acceptable behaviour for many of his coworkers.

The whole resource crew, on the other hand, is a different level ...

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I know this is a late comment but I just wanted to put my own two cents in.

From reading the comments, I've gathered that a lot of people are condemning S.K. rampant misogyny and the modern treatment of working women as if it were only present in S.K. or even endemic to S.K. culture. Sexual harassment, verbal abuse, condescension, pay cuts, sexism and delayed promotions are all very real things found all over the world and not just in Korea. The US only signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act in 2009; there is also no government mandated paid pregnancy leave at all. Sexual harassment in the corporate workplace? If you google it, thousands of recent results come up.

While gender equality in Korea is generally ranked below other countries, let's not paint the entire culture and society with the wide brush (and cite uncomfortable generalizations with ethnocentric and racist undertones, as if Asians are inherently sexist and inferior because their culture/traditions are so different), but celebrate Misaeng for bringing such a nuanced and thoughtful portrayal of the struggles women face to the small screen. It even shows the quiet companionship found between women and the power of a woman mentor: it's because of Senior Manager Seon that Yeon-yi finds the courage and wherewithal to subtly confront her superiors, and Yeon-yi in her own way lends her support to Senior Manager Seon. (This episode happily passes the Bechdel test!)

Misaeng is so profoundly moving because it deals with the struggles of the under-appreciated and the outliers of both society and the workplace. Manager Oh is difficult to work with and devoted to his work, possibly blocked for future promotions because of his past with the Executive Director and his unwillingness to compromise his values; Jang Geu-rae is a poor high school dropout and failed to become a baduk professional, just now starting at the office as a complete rookie; Yeon-yi is a more than competent worker who struggles to be acknowledged by her sexist superiors; Senior Manager Seon is a working mother trying to balance her home and work life. It's a story that strikes a chord in all of us, no matter who we are or where we are from, and by doing so, is making quiet progress and starting conversations about important issues about the workplace.

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Hi @dramallama and thank you for the recap. I am late to the party here, but better late than never, right? Other beanies recommended Misaeng to me so I gave it a try. WOW. It's so good that I'm binge-watching it. I just finished episode 5. I could say a lot but the two things that stick in my mind right now are how good the acting and script is. Oh, I've lost my heart again, this time to Shin Eun-jung. I can't see enough of her!

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عالی و زیبا

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