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Hi Bye, Mama! : Episode 10

Wouldn’t it all be so much easier if the stepmom was evil just like in the fairytales? A cruel seductress would be easy to justify our ex-ghost’s return to her home and family. But reality isn’t like that at all, and Min-jung has proven to be the exact opposite of evil–she’s too nice for her own good. But our ex-ghost knows her best, and may be the only one who can break Min-jung’s self-sabotage. As Yuri gets to the end of her ghost-busting efforts, she begins to doubt whether she’s helped her daughter or not, and also whether she’s willing to leave life behind again.

 
EPISODE 10: “Your Place, That I Cannot Reach”

We start in the past with young student Min-jung, who tells her school counselor that she wants to be a nurse. She doesn’t have great grades right now, but Min-jung swears that she’ll work hard from now on. Fast-forward a few years, and we know that Min-jung did just that and became a nurse. But now she sits with Kang-hwa to tell him that she wants to quit her job to take care of Seo-woo full time.

Kang-hwa knows how important Min-jung’s work is to her, and he urges her not to quit. He’s content with taking full responsibility for Seo-woo. But Min-jung asks him to let her be Seo-woo’s real mom.

Min-jung’s narration begins over a morning in her stay-at-home mom lifestyle: “Back then, I was cocky enough to think that there was nothing I couldn’t achieve with effort and passion.”

Min-jung abandons her morning coffee to get Seo-woo up and fed. There’s a smile on Min-jung’s face from that moment until she drops Seo-woo at daycare, when it finally fades at the other mothers’ callous remarks. They point out that Seo-woo looks nothing like her mother, while others share the gossip that Min-jung is her stepmom.

“But there is a place in life that I can’t achieve even with my efforts.”

Now on to a moment when Seo-woo is hospitalized, and while Kang-hwa charges ahead to be at his daughter’s bedside, Min-jung is held back by staff who question whether she’s a guardian.

We return to the present, as Min-jung, Seo-woo, and Yuri return to the apartment just as Kang-hwa pops Seo-woo’s egg for Yuri into his mouth. All three of them shout, though Min-jung gives Yuri the side eye for delivering a “Yah!” to someone she works for.

Meanwhile, Geun-sang continues to deal with his own egg problems as angry Sang-bong fans surround his car. When Hyun-jung discovers the scene outside her restaurant, she takes a fighting stance. “Bruce Lee of Yeouido,” Geun-sang gasps from the car, and we even get a glimpse of an old photograph of Hyun-jung dressed in the iconic Bruce Lee yellow jumpsuit, tee hee.

Hyun-sang easily steps out of the way of the eggs hurled at her, and then she returns with a volley of her own. Each egg lands right on target on the heads of the girls. Geun-sang is officially brave enough to step out of his car to thank her as she chases off the crowd.

Yuri makes her escape from Kang-hwa’s apartment, flustered with herself for the outburst and mad at Kang-hwa for eating her present. Meanwhile, Kang-hwa avoids Min-jung’s eyes while he tries to reassemble Seo-woo’s eggshell art. Min-jung suggests Yuri’s reaction was out of line, but Kang-hwa doesn’t hesitate to defend her.

Back at the bar, Geun-sang grateful to Hyun-jung for chasing off the rabid Sang-bong fans. Hyun-jung’s fury shifts to Geun-sang as she demands an explanation. Geun-sang swears that he met with Sang-bong several times and never found cause to diagnose him with depression. Hyun-jung recalls that Sang-bong was under investigation for match-fixing, and that he left a suicide note.

Geun-sang then recalls a moment following his appointment with Sang-bong, when the baseball player found him in the bathroom. Sang-bong asked for a depression diagnosis, insisting that his baseball club wants it for show. Geun-sang refuses to give a false diagnosis, so Sang-bong is on her way. But now that he considers it, Geun-sang wonders what really happened to Sang-bong.

At the columbarium, the ghosts huddle around Sang-bong’s mom while she visits, until Sang-bong chases them all away. Sang-bong’s head bows as he reads the note his mother leaves for him, telling him that she’s sorry.

It’s bedtime for Seo-woo, and Kang-hwa finishes reading her a story and tucking her in. He doesn’t make it too far though, and sits on the floor near her bed. His brain is busy trying to add up all the incidents when Yuri was with Min-jung, and why Yuri seems to know his wife better than he’d expect.

When Kang-hwa finally retires to bed, he asks Min-jung when she first met the new pick-up helper. Min-jung says that that their first meeting was at the daycare. Min-jung asks him if they should find someone else, since she knew he’d be bothered that she looked so much like Yuri. Even so, Min-jung admits that she feels drawn to her somehow, because she looks like Seo-woo’s mom. Kang-hwa reminds Min-jung that she’s Seo-woo’s mom too, and they go to bed.

At her parent’s, Yuri fiddles with the piles of gifts for Seo-woo before she flops onto her bed. The calendar reminds her that she’s halfway through her 49 days, and Hyun-jung’s earlier protests for her to try to live come to mind as she drifts off to sleep.

Yuri’s gone in the morning again when her mom goes to wake her up. The baby clothes for Seo-woo are all missing as well, and Mom wonders where her daughter keeps disappearing to. Dad finds that the refrigerator has also been completely emptied overnight.

Armed with the entirety of her mother’s fridge and the door passcode, Yuri waits for Min-jung to leave for the day and then storms into Kang-hwa’s apartment to drive away the ghost lingering there.

Meanwhile, Midongdaek and the ghosts hold a ceremony to send off Chairman Baek and his driver Pan-seok. The ghosts shy away and pretend not to hear when Midongdaek suggests that they ascend as well. When Mi-ja suggests that she’ll go up as soon as things are okay with her son again, Midongdaek throws up her hands and says she’ll send Mi-ja right now. But when she reaches into her bag, she realizes her bells have disappeared again.

Yuri has them, of course, armed and prepared to catch that apartment ghost and send him packing. A full search of the apartment turns up nothing though, until there’s only one room remaining: Kang-hwa and Min-jung’s bedroom. Yuri’s been all over this apartment for years now, but in flashback we discover that the bedroom doorway has been the one threshold that she won’t cross.

Yuri turns away from the door, but then slyly turns back with a grin and a shake of the bells. The apartment ghost is stuck to the wall, but another ghost is also glued to the ceiling (it’s Kim Seul-gi!). This ghost turns out to be a virgin ghost who has been hoping to finally lose that title by possessing Min-jung. Ha!

We see a little flashback to Kang-hwa getting ready for bed, each of his movements extra sexy. The virgin ghost stands by while he does exercises at the bed edge and then jumps into the bed (I mean, the ghost has good taste…) The virgin ghost readies herself to jump into Min-jung, but she’s propelled backwards when she meets Min-jung’s strong-willed aura. Amazing.

Back at Yuri’s parents’ house, Mom pulls out that big bag of seaweed that the neighbor gave her and also glances at the heart medication Kang-hwa prescribed her. Yeon-ji comes home and asks if Yuri was the one who got rid of Seo-woo’s things. Yeon-ji recalls how strangely Kang-hwa was acting before they discovered Yuri, and she wonders if perhaps Yuri has already met Seo-woo. Yeon-ji says that there’s nothing they can do about Kang-hwa now that he’s remarried, but Seo-woo is still Yuri’s daughter. At that, Mom heads out with a purpose.

At the hospital, Geun-sang yelps when he spots a big pile of eggs in the lunch line, haha. Kang-hwa rolls his eyes, until he recalls his own recent mishaps with eggs. Their antics leave them at a lunch table with just each other, and Kang-hwa shares the latest development in Min-jung’s interest in Yuri.

After some arguing (where Geun-sang insinuates that maybe Min-jung is interested in a threesome, ha!), they’re interrupted by Dr. Jang, just returned from a conference. Kang-hwa’s distracted by a phone call, and it’s from someone he can’t refuse.

Kang-hwa meets with Yuri’s mom at a cafe. Mom learns that Yuri’s been spending time with Seo-woo as a kitchen assistant at the daycare and a pick-up helper. Mom asks if Min-jung knows about anything, and Kang-hwa can’t even lift his head to look at Mom as he says that Yuri asked him not to.

Mom’s not here to yell though. Kang-hwa tries to apologize to her and promises to do something, but Mom understands that Min-jung is Seo-woo’s mom now too. She knows that Kang-hwa can’t just take Seo-woo away from her for Yuri, and she’s just glad that Yuri gets to see Seo-woo somehow right now. She tells Kang-hwa that he shouldn’t try to fix this alone, and that they’ll all take time to try to find a solution.

Mom takes note of Kang-hwa’s bowed head and asks him to raise it. He’s still avoiding her eyes though as he apologizes to her. And then in flashback, Mom makes a big pot of seaweed soup at home. Yeon-ji tries to scoop some out for herself, but Mom shoos her away. “It’s for your sister,” she says. The pot sits on the stove day after day, until finally Kang-hwa dumps the contents out into the sink. “It’s moldy,” he says through tears, as Mom steps up to his side and pats his shoulder.

Back in the present, Kang-hwa can only apologize. Mom leaves by bus, and finds herself scrolling through Min-jung’s photo feed.

Yuri, meanwhile, hauls the virgin ghost out by the ear to deliver to Midongdaek. Midongdaek tries to scold Yuri for stealing her bells, but Yuri triumphantly whispers to her about the ghost she’s caught. Yuri hopes this will help Midongdaek’s numbers, but Geun-sang’s aunt pops up from behind her, and the virgin ghost recognizes this shaman.

The virgin ghost runs off, Auntie Shaman on her heels, while Midongdaek laughs. It seems the other shaman has been looking for this ghost for a while. Midongdaek asks after the other ghost, and Yuri grins that she sent him somewhere else. Midongdaek points out that he won’t be able to settle in unless the new place is haunted, and Yuri assures her that it is.

Cut to the apartment ghost, relocated in Pil-seung’s apartment, haha. The ghost family is not happy at all to have an interloper in their son’s apartment and they charge after him.

Midongdaek walks with Yuri as she heads for the preschool. Yuri feels confident that she’s chased away all the ghosts from Seo-woo and that should prevent her from seeing them in the future. Midongdaek’s not so sure about that theory though, and Yuri shouts when Midongdaek suggests that maybe Seo-woo will turn out to be a shaman like her. Poor Midongdaek.

Hyun-jung is on her way to the daycare as well, and she gets several texts from the mothers group text warning about a guy selling fake instructional material outside the school. The texts scoff at anyone who would fall for that kind of scam, and of course, there’s Yuri at the table buying several copies of each workbook.

Yuri and Hyun-jung take the kids back to the bar, where Hyun-jung does her best to keep her voice down while she interrogates Yuri. She wants to know why Yuri is fine with dying again, and Yuri finally admits that she was a ghost all this time, watching them all. Yuri confesses that she has no regrets, but all that she wants to do is undo the damage she caused and move on. Yuri breaks into tears, and Hyun-jung has to turn away to stifle her own.

Once Min-jung returns home with Seo-woo, she discovers the fully stocked fridge, courtesy of Yuri. Back at Yuri’s parent’s, Dad wonders that Yuri asked Mom to make gosari, since she doesn’t like it, nor did Kang-hwa. But of course, it’s Min-jung who loves it. She asks Kang-hwa at dinner what he thinks of the new side dishes, and he notes that it tastes healthy and a little bland. Turns out, this was the exact reaction Yeon-ji and Dad delivered to Mom when she first made her new recipes, haha.

Kang-hwa’s face stills when Min-jung tells him that the pick-up helper brought the food, and even moreso when he sees Min-jung dig in to the gosari that he knows both he and Yuri hate.

Having moved on to some tables outside a convenience store, Yuri confesses to Hyun-jung how she knows Min-jung so well. We return to the opening prologue scene, but now viewed from Yuri’s perspective. She watches as Min-jung always puts Seo-woo first, even if it means cold coffee. When Seo-woo spills her snacks, Yuri gets upset while Min-jung just smiles gently at Seo-woo. As a ghost, Yuri encourages Min-jung to make friends with the neighborhood moms even if they’re kind of awful, and scolds her for not letting the housekeeper make her the gosari she loves.

Yuri tells Hyun-jung now how grateful she is to Min-jung, while Hyun-jung mutters that she wishes Min-jung was a cruel person instead. At home, Min-jung looks at the photo of Kang-hwa and Yuri, seeing the clear resemblance to the new pick-up helper and picks up her phone.

Yuri stands to leave when it seems like Hyun-jung will try to convince her to get in between Min-jung and Kang-hwa again, but Hyun-jung just wants to tell her that the instructional workbooks she bought for Seo-woo are fakes. Yuri’s phone rings, and while she’s surprised by the caller, I think I can guess.

Geun-sang heads to the bar, but he jumps right back out the door when he discovers Yuri, Min-jung, and Hyun-jung all line up at the bar. He tries to enter again, but the sight is too much and he runs out again. Meanwhile, Min-jung says that she wanted to thank Yuri for the side dishes with a drink, and when she suggests Yuri and Hyun-jung like to drink, Yuri chuckles that Min-jung likes it more.

Yuri realizes her mistake, but Min-jung just nods that she’s right. Min-jung confesses that she’s jealous of how close the two women are, since she distanced herself from friends after she married. She tells Hyun-jung that she wanted to become friends with her, but she was worried that Kang-hwa was uncomfortable with it.

Speaking of Kang-hwa, Geun-sang’s called him out to a park bench in the middle of the night. Kang-hwa is pretty miffed, until Geun-sang reveals that it’s no celebrity that he’s excited about visiting his bar, it’s Min-jung and Yuri together. Kang-hwa recalls earlier in the evening when Min-jung slipped out. He’d asked where she was headed, and her only reply had been to meet a friend.

Back in the bar, Min-jung asks Hyun-jung if she makes her uncomfortable, since Hyun-jung was so close to Yuri. Hyun-jung says that she’s just grateful to her. Hyun-jung then asks if Yuri makes Min-jung uncomfortable, and Min-jung says that she’s just curious, not uncomfortable. She says that she’s curious about Seo-woo’s mom, too, but that Kang-hwa won’t talk about her at all.

A few drinks later, and soon all three of them are blaming Min-jung’s plight entirely on Kang-hwa, haha. Yuri rambles that he’s always like this, and Min-jung wonders if she knows her husband well. Min-jung leans in super close to Yuri and tells her how much she looks like Seo-woo. Her face is serious, almost adoring, and then she breaks into a smile and grabs for Yuri’s cheeks.

Min-jung then turns to the topic of stepmothers, and how the stories all portray them as evil. “Stepmoms are moms too!” she yells, right before her head drops for the bar top. Yuri is quick though, and manages to catch her head in her hands to soften the blow.

While the ladies are bonding, the boys are brooding and whining, until Kang-hwa gets a call from Hyun-jung. The men run to the bar, where they find Hyun-jung engulfed by Yuri on one side and Min-jung on the other, both women hugging her tightly and then fighting over which one of them gets to keep her.

“Kang-hwa!” Yuri shouts in delight to her former husband when she sees him, but Min-jung follows it immediately with “My husband!” and Yuri quiets. When Hyun-jung tells Kang-hwa to take Min-jung home, he immediately asks, “What about Yuri?” Hyun-jung promises she’ll take care of Yuri, but Kang-hwa’s eyes are on Yuri even as he guides Min-jung home.

The next day, the ghosts at the columbarium worry over Mi-ja, who seems upset after her son visited. Yuri, meanwhile, gathers up all the books that feature an evil stepmother and asks the daycare director to promptly remove them from circulation, haha.

As Min-jung prepares to head out, she spots the bag of Yuri’s fake instructional workbooks and smiles. The night before, Min-jung caught sight of them and told Yuri they were fakes. Even so, Min-jung admits that she bought copies herself for Seo-woo as well last year. And indeed, another set of books sits on Seo-woo’s bookshelf.

Kang-hwa and Geun-sang try to process the previous night. While Geun-sang asks after Min-jung, Kang-hwa seems only concerned about Yuri. Geun-sang thinks back to the night before, after Yuri made it home. He wonders how much the women drank if even Yuri managed to get that drunk. Hyun-jung says that Yuri wasn’t drunk, and Geun-sang catches on that Yuri was only pretending to avoid Kang-hwa.

In the present, Geun-sang promises that Yuri was fine, while Kang-hwa just recalls walking away from her that night. A fellow doctor stops by to ask Kang-hwa to sign a petition to discourage VIP patient prioritization. Kang-hwa pretends that he can’t sign because of his probation, and Geun-sang lures the other doctor away.

The petition makes it way back to Dr. Jang, with Kang-hwa the only hold-out. This reminds Dr. Jang of his confrontation with Kang-hwa on the day of Yuri’s accident, though it’s unclear exactly why. Dr. Jang asks Kang-hwa’s psychiatrist how the treatment is going, and it seems like things are going well.

Dr. Jang wonders why he didn’t seek treatment earlier, and we return to the cafe visit Kang-hwa had with Yuri’s mom the day before. Mom asked if he still wasn’t doing surgeries, and Kang-hwa admits that he feels guilty about getting better. He held on to the trauma he experiences in the operating room because it was all he had left of that moment.

Meanwhile, Yuri runs errands for the daycare kitchen. On her way, she spots a motorcycle speeding towards a woman. Yuri jumps in front of the cycle and tries to push the woman out of the way. A phone call comes in for Kang-hwa from Yuri. She gasps his name, and Kang-hwa hears someone behind her saying that there’s been a car accident. The call ends, and Kang-hwa is on his feet.

He runs through the halls of the hospital, and it mirrors the run that he made on the day of Yuri’s accident five years ago.

Midongdaek tries to forget Yuri’s strong reaction to the thought of her daughter ending up a shaman, but it’s something she can’t shake. There’s a knock at the door though, and a dapper man with a walking stick featuring a magic eight ball on the end awaits her. Is he another shaman? He smiles and says that he got tired of waiting after not hearing back from Midongdaek about “her.”

Kang-hwa rushes to the ER, where a gurney arrives. Back to Yuri and Hyun-jung’s convenience store conversation the night before, Hyun-jung asks her friend again if she really doesn’t want to live. Yuri hesitates, and then admits that she does want to live. But she doesn’t know what to do.

EPILOGUE

Now it’s time for a glimpse of Yuri as Seo-woo’s pick-up helper. They dance along to the tv, play games with rings, and get a game of hide-and-seek going.

They’re playing airplane when Min-jung arrives at home, and Seo-woo drops everything to run over to greet Min-jung.

In a reversal of roles, we see ghost Yuri watching over Seo-woo as she sleeps, and then glancing over as the camera reveals that Min-jung is snuggled up next to her. Just as Min-jung worried in the prologue that she would never be able to step into the role of Seo-woo’s mom, Yuri looks at her with envy. “Your place, that I cannot reach. Mom,” Yuri narrates.

 
COMMENTS

That ending was a little muddled and all over the place, but let’s focus on the most heartbreaking moment: Kang-hwa racing to the ER yet again for Yuri. It’s obviously going to be the woman Yuri saved, not Yuri herself, under that gurney cloth. But there’s no way that Kang-hwa will make it past this moment without a crack in his cool.

He’s been good so far at following Yuri’s requests and keeping a distance. He’s kept his worrying and suffering to his inner circle of friends. But it’s not just that phone call at the end of the episode that has him starting to fall apart. It was that moment, the one where drunken Yuri called out his name when she saw him.

It was the first moment since she’s returned that Yuri has let her guard down and shown kanghwa how happy she is to see him. And the moment that followed, when he wanted to take her home and couldn’t, really drove home the big conflict that Kang-hwa has been wrestling with alone. Because without even knowing that Yuri’s fate may well rest in his hands, he’s clearly already conflicted about where he should be and who he should be supporting.

And after watching him walk away from her in such clear agony, I’m conflicted too. I embraced the idea that Yuri’s return to life wouldn’t be permanent pretty early on in the show, and I was content to anticipate a bittersweet ending. But now I’m really not so sure what I want. All these people really needed some help moving on with their lives, but I honestly can’t imagine them moving on without Yuri now. She is the best thing for them, and they all know it. It puts Kang-hwa in an impossible position, but honestly, can’t we figure out a way to give Seo-woo the two moms that she deserves?

I love that Min-jung is ghost-proof because of her strong will. Honestly, I love Min-jung, period. I was so worried in the beginning that she would fall flat or not get much story, but instead the show has delivered an abundance of the exact opposite. Min-jung is still cool, collected, and a little quiet, but they’ve shown the why, and that’s made all the difference.

Min-jung can’t quite understand why she’s drawn to Yuri, but what’s important is that she finally does something for herself, even when she knows Kang-hwa is uncomfortable. Part of it, which she fully admits, is that she’s curious about Kang-hwa’s former wife, a curiosity only encouraged by Kang-hwa’s inability to talk about Yuri at all with her.

But the other half of it is that Yuri knows Min-jung like a good friend. Min-jung doesn’t know, of course, that the reason for that is that Yuri’s been at her side for every hard moment for the last five years. Yuri knows the woman’s most mundane preferences and habits, as well as the things that have troubled her. It’s a little creepy, honestly, like any ghostly presence would be. But it also means that Yuri is able to get past Min-jung’s wall of consideration when no one else can.

Do we have a new shaman in town who knows a little more about what’s going on and what’s going to happen? I’m not sure what to think about this new complication and what he may want for/with Yuri, but it worries me. And while Yuri may have some extra time to contend with this new presence now that she’s busted most of the ghosts, she still has all those favors she owes the columbarium gang.

I don’t really love the way that the show has implied that someone must have diagnosable depression to die by suicide, but I think plot-wise we’re meant to suspect that there may have been foul play in Sang-bong’s death. He had rumors swirling around him both personally and professionally, and it may be that the team thought he was a liability. He seems very concerned for his mother, so perhaps he has been keeping his mouth shut to protect them.

In contrast to that portrayal, I think Midongdaek’s situation is a good metaphor for the way that people with disabilities can be treated in society. Yuri doesn’t think twice to gasp in horror at the thought of Seo-woo seeing ghosts for the rest of her life, but that’s exactly Midongdaek’s situation. Midongdaek just sees it as part of her reality, with benefits and drawbacks. Hopefully Yuri figures out that for herself soon as well. If Yuri returns to being a ghost, perhaps the thought of Seo-woo still being able to see her as she grows up might be a positive.

But seriously, I’m fine with Seo-woo having two moms, nevermind Kang-hwa and his conflicts. These two women so desperately want to feel like Seo-woo’s moms, and they’re totally missing that they’re doing everything to prove that they are already. It doesn’t matter what everyone else in the world thinks, only what Seo-woo thinks, and Seo-woo clearly loves them both.

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At certain point, I do think that this drama can benefit from tighter writing and faster pace. But I'm willing to forgive a lot of its flaws for the sole fact that this drama continues to sweetly develop the precious friendship between Yuri and Min-jung. 'Evil stepmom' is such a common feature in both fairytale and modern storytelling that I'm really glad the writer has decided to not follow this easy road. It might baffle a lot of people, but it actually felt natural that these 2 women get drawn to each other. They shared a motherly love for Seo-woo, a fond frustration towards Kang-hwa's tendency to not communicate about his hardships, a slow-built curiosity and interest as they yearned for each other's position. Yuri for Min-jung's chance to raise Seo-woo and be the little girl's mother. Min-jung for Yuri's status as Seo-woo's birth mother that automatically absolve her from many of her clumsiness and mistakes. I found it both bittersweet and endearing that Yu-ri found herself attached to Min-jung instead while she tried to distance herself from Kang-hwa and his new marriage life. I'm glad these 49 days gave both women an opportunity to become real close friends.

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Yes, especially to the first part. "Tighter writing and faster pace".

I watched the 2nd half of the ep on FF. That's the first time I've ever done that with any show, but now I wish I had started about day 3.

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I can't help but think that this drama would have been so much better if it had been 12 episodes (like Go Back Spouses) instead of 16.

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Oooh, could this be one of those dramas where bromance > romance? Bromance in this case is between two women. I don't recall ever seeing that before. Now I'm feeling it, I want them both to be Seo Woo's moms. I want it badly.

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As an alternative to making the show move faster, I keep trying to think of twists that would make it more interesting, and I keep coming back to Min-jung.

What if she can see ghosts and has just been stringing everyone else along?

Or what if she was sent down from above, like the male lead in Angel's Last Mission?

Or maybe she's Yuri's long-lost (amnesiac) sister??

Or she's on a path to eventually become an angry virgin ghost, because everyone knows kdrama people never do anything, and her hubby is still too hung up on Yuri?

I don't expect any of those, just do *something*. The last few days have been pretty flat, except for the Kim Seul-Gi / Oh My Ghost bit.

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Ok, it's a drama, isn't it? So why can't we have Yuri stay alive and manage everything in some kind of way, if we can have her come back from death?

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I care less about Seo Woo having 2 moms than I do KangHwa. Seo Woo has always had two moms, so it makes no difference to me now. Kanghwa on the other hand, all I could think when he got the call was dammit, you know he is think not again. The poor man. I don't even know what I want to happen because I do like both women and everyone of these characters deserves good things.

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My guess is that the man who appeared in all-black is supposed to be a Grim Reaper, with the sinister vibe and all. I worry that he's here for both Yuri and Seowoo, in some way perhaps they cheated death 5 years ago? Like Go Eun-tak in Goblin? Whatever it is, Midongdaek does NOT look happy to see him so I'm worried for our characters!!

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This episode reinforced that one thing i keep telling my friends, "we need our girl friends". While this isn't necessary here's this thing that I've noticed men remain friends for longer periods rather than women. From school to college to work or taking care of kids and home, many women lose out on friends. MJ could most probably not relate with her nursing colleagues when she was no longer working so it doesn't seem like her friendship with that nurse was that strong. Likewise MJ wanted to be friends with Gye sang's wife because she fpund her relatable. That is also why she clicked with Yu ri. While some people might have parents and siblings in tough times, it's actually the friends who can relate to your situation the most. If they are of the same age, you tend to go through the same phases in life at the same time that they become the best comfort. I have lost on a few friends when I left uni and many others started work but i didn't and the ones who stuck have similar phases like me and give the best advices and have a better understanding of what i go through than anyone else.

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I love this drama, but I feel like it's not going anywhere. There are moments when you think the plot will pick up (like when Gang-hwa or Yuri's mom discovers she is alive), but then it is glossed over. I still enjoy watching this, but I could use some conflict.

Also, shout out to Kim Seulgi briefly reprising her Oh My Ghost! role.

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Call me an old crank, but I was not fond of the KSG cameo. I thought she was over-acting, playing her role in the same broad fashion that worked so well in Oh My Ghost but doesn't quite fit in a show that has comedy elements but is more contemplative.
Plus, I am just not a fan of cross-overs in general: they are almost always exaggerated and played for laughs and take me out of the story while I process the reference and try and figure out why the fanservice was necessary. It's like being totally engrossed in a book and someone comes along and gives you a smack upside the head and says "Hey! You are Reading a Book! I read a Book, too! See how my book is like your book? Isn't that Cool????"

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I was slow to get into this drama but I did because of MinJung. To me she’s the loneliest and saddest character. She does not have any friends nor does she seem to have family. Her husband is keeping a pretty big secret that could devastate her life and potentially remove a precious thing from her (SeoWoo). Everyone she thinks is her friend (Yuri, HyeonJeong) are lying to her and pitching her. All this time she’s done nothing to deserve any of this.
I see a lot of folks are sympathetic to Yuri and a lot of sympathy for KangHwa but no one talks about the devastation waiting for MinJung. To me KangHwa is not being considerate of MinJung. He is suffering but he still has his work, his friends, Yuri’s family and SeoWoo, what/who does MinJung have? Only Yuri’s mom seems to be really considerate of MinJung. I hope the show does right by MinJung.

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I might the only one who love this episode the most? while before it's been stated of how Nice Min Jeong is, But this episode (and last episode) is what make it clear Min Jung has to go through and Yu Ri watching all of that struggle as Seo's Stepmom, which make me feel to MJ as a character more. His Introvert nature make her less aware of how to communicate better with Seo Woo. Not because he is not a real Seo Woo's Mom, It's just her nature as introvert girl. I like it the writers touch this issue.

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My take on this episode.. Kang Hwa and Yu Ri are still deeply in love. When Yuri and Min Jeong were drunk, Kang Hwa his first concern was Yu Ri and she was who he was staring at as he walked away. As the reviewer stated, Yu Ri gave her first real reaction to Kang Hwa when she was drunk and the pure joy on her face when she said his name, you know she still loves him so very much.

I have been stating this in my previous comments and I stick to my original theory. Kang Hwa will have to choose between the two women and its not a matter of who he loves as he loves both women but who he loves more, who Kang Hwa cannot live without and personally I still think that its Yu Ri. Min Jeong got Kang Hwa to live again but its a different kind of love, not the same kind that he had with Yu Ri, that passionate, once in a life time love

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Nah... not because some couples are silent or not as passionate as others it means it is less. Sometimes its even stronger because they fall in love at the worst stage of a person's life.

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Dude, he is in love with Yu Ri.. that is pretty obvious.. Maybe he loves Min Jeong more but IDK.. I dont think so.. they way he stared back at Yu Ri when walking Min Jeong home... I guess they will address their feelings soon enough

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I dont think kangwha is the type of guy who marries for convenience or just gratitude.. yuri already said he loves her and gave the light back.. she is observing for the longest time, she is the person who saw them fall in love. Maybe he is less showy because of what he has been through at the same time he is not a college boy or young man when he was in relationship with minjung unlike yuri. Kanghwa can never un love yuri but there is a possibility he is no longer in love. The diagnosis of the doctor he feels guilty when his relationship feels good. He just needs closure and assurance that its okay. as per yuri yes he also loves him but she already moved on but of course there is pain but it seems she already accepted it., she saw him fall in love and get married again . Even in ep 1 she doesnt follow him around anymore unlike her daughter or mother or even her friend. When you love someone is not always full of passion, some love is silent but very strong. The former couple just need to talk and have a proper goodbye as couple. I hope yuri lives too but start her own path not take her place back. She can help ghosts since shamans cant interfere.

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This I agree. Yuri 'knows' Ganghwa loves Minjung, even her friend (forgot her name, sorry) couldn't say no to her statement. Ganghwa even told Minjung not to quit her job, and that he could take care of Seowoo, but it was Minjung who insisted, because she wanted to become Seowoo's mother. So I don't think Ganghwa married Minjung out of convinience.

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I guess we will see soon enough but I dont think I am wrong..I think it will be Yu Ri and Kang Hwa in the end.. my theory is the writer will reset the clock back to 2015 before she died.. I think he is going to choose Yu Ri but we shall see 😂

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If it gets reset in 2015 or before she dies then ganghwa did not choose because minjung is not even in the picture. Ill wait until the end. Its more than half way already anyway. I just wish they can show it more clearly because sometimes the story goes around the circle.

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Also if it gets reset in 2015, they wasted a lot of scenes and the actor's efforts. I will find it lazy writing.

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@Super its not lazy writing.. If Kang Hwa says he cant lose Yu Ri again once he finds out the truth.. he will have to make a decision between Min Jeong and Yuri and if he chooses Yuri and they decide to reset the clock.. then it makes perfect sense to me. .that means he did choose her in the present/future and they were allowed to change the past.. You might want to visit the writers other works.. Go Back Couple.. just saying.. 🤷‍♀️ . I have other reasons why I think my theory is correct ( which I cannot share).. I am not 100% because you never know but I think thats what is going to happen along those lines..

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I totally agree with you on this... I get the vibes of their love with every episode in even the recent episodes 11 and 12... The way he stares and smiles faintly yet cutely at Yu ri when she's not looking n d way she looks at him...is a perfect way of outpouring of love even if not yet spoken... Min jeong is just someone to me , I think that helped gang hwa get up from his wallowing state...

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I totally agree with you. His love for them is different. With Yuri it was true and passionate. With Minjung its gratitude, I believe. I so want him and Yuri to reunite somehow but I am not so sure it will happen. Everything seems to he leading to him and Minjung.??? Idk his it will all end but first sure there will be an episode of passion and tears between him and Yuri.😭

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Hahahah this epsiodes gave support to both of our theories. Like you said he was worried for Yu Ri and also ran like crazy when he heard of the accident. On the other hand like i had stated previously it was revealed that Gang Hwa felt guilty that he was getting better which is why he did not seek treatment for his tremors! So we are both on square one again 😅

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I agree with the comments that drama could have a faster pace. I don't really know what's going to happen in the next 6 episodes (and that's a lot of episodes giving the present situation).

I guess we will have some information regarding SangBong and I also suspect that his death was not suicide, although it confuses me how calm he is about it. I mean, we've been shown how YuRi and the young woman who committed suicide kept crying and crying just after dying because they don't like their situation, yet SangBong seems to be perfectly ok with it.

Also, we need to know more about our family of ghosts and their pilot son. But I can't see the relation here with the development of YuRi story.

As regarding YuRi, as much as my heart breaks when I see her looking and KangHwa (and he looking at her) I still believe her place is not back in her place. I think her mission is to help others deal with their dead, and I think they will.

Also, please, show, make them all seat and talk about what's happening. Please.

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Sang-bong’s head bows as he reads the note his mother leaves for him, telling him that she’s sorry.

Sang-bong is a man so he instead of she?

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Sorry, my bad, wrong citation:

Geun-sang refuses to give a false diagnosis, so Sang-bong is on her way.

On his way? Or I understand wrongly?

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I still need more clarification on Kang and MJ's connection and eventual marriage. We know after Yuri's death, Kang and the baby were at Yuri's parent house. When was he pushed out? When he tried to leave See-Woo with them after a suicide attempt? Did this lead to Kang cutting off Yuri's family upon his remarriage?
We saw MJ approach Kang, who reacted to her presence with a small smile. She still had a crush on him, but a one sided affair does not take us to the present day. What events took him to the stage of re-marriage when his career had collapsed into a perpetual state of suspension?
We know MJ has the compassion as a neonatal nurse. She held See-Woo when Yuri passed so the first mother-child bond was with MJ. So if Kang wanted/needed someone to care for See-Woo, MJ would be a good choice.
By why marry MJ if he had no true, deep feelings for her? She probably did so hoping he would turn his life around, forget and forgive the past to have a future. But after 5 years of a marriage of convenience, did MJ give up hope (until Yuri came back?) In the last girl's night drunk, it seemed that MJ was hoping to find out more about Yuri so she could find the reasons (or her deficiencies) Kang still cannot get over Yuri.
I find MJ is the most interesting character in the show.

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They are not married for five years, if you look back to the epilogue in episode 2. It took 3 winter season before Min Jung showed up with Gang Hwa ang Seo Woo. It is not like Min Jung has always been there for GH and SW eversince Yuri died, the first few episodes mentioned Yuri's death as just over 4 years and gradually became 5 years. So if we take consideration of that and the epilogue, GH and MJ are only married for over a year at the beginning of the series.

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Why do ppl.keep bringing the marriage of convenience theory when it has been confirmed that it was anything but. Gang Hwa loved Min Jeong and he did not marry her for Seo Woo as is clear in that scene when he is surprised to hear that MJ is quitting her job to take care of SW. He tries to stop her and tells her that it's not her responsibility and he will take care of SW, she doesn't need to do this but she persists!
He was also not hung up on Yu Ri. He was getting better, was moving on and felt incredibly guilty of doing so which is why he did not seek treatment for his tremors.
And regarding the divorce that MJ seems to be contemplating is because GH is considerate of her to a fault! He doesn't talk about Yu Ri and doesn't discuss SW with her because he feels like.he would be burdening MJ. He doesn't realize that MJ has accepted the role of SW's mom whole heartedly and loves her equally so if not more than GH and Yu Ri. He also doesn't realize that not talking about the dead is not healthy. He thinks that talking about his dead wife with MJ will be doing her wrong when that is not the case!! Or maybe he knows that talking about Yu Ri means moving on from her and that is smth he feels.guilty about!
Just like Go Back Couple the characters desperately need to communicate with each other because this is where all of there problems are stemming form but just liek Go Back Couple they won't do so until the last episode because then the whole drama will be over then and this is smth that is worrying me. Since Go Back Couple only had 12 epsiodes, communicating and talking abiy their problems in ep 11 was fine but here if the miscommunications stretches to ep15 it will be very frustrating! Like some beanies have commented above this drama could really use tighter editing and maybe a 12 epsiode count instead of 16!

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Yes! Thank you! I am so tired of reading comments that says "ganghwa belongs to yuri" , "ganghwa married minjung out of convinience" or "ganghwa loves yuri, but only feels grateful to minjung"
Seriously, are we even watching the same drama? Ganghwa clearly loves Minjung. He may still loves Yuri (he probably always will, cos she's his first wife and the birth mother of his child) but that doesn't mean he doesn't love Minjung.

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So this drama just loves breaking my heart to pieces. All the characters (except for the ghosts, sorry not sorry) are actually very interesting. However, I have to admit that for me, the most interesting yet underrated character is Minjung. So many viewers are caught up in Yuri and Ganghwa's love story (which I know is very sweet and tragic), that they forget that Yuri DIED. And for whatever reason (I like to believe that Ganghwa actually fell in love with Minjung, but we haven't seen the whole story of their marriage), Ganghwa MOVED ON. Or at least he tried. And that is not a bad thing. We all want a love that 'lasts forever', happy ever after, a man only loving one woman for the rest of his life, but this is real life. In life, that is not always the case. In life, we take whatever it is we got and make the best out of it. I think that's actually what happened to Ganghwa. Yuri died, and he found comfort in Minjung. That's why he married her. Not because he needed her to take care of Seowoo. He's the one that told Minjung to keep doing what she wants, and to let him take care of Seowoo. Minjung insisted to take care of Seowoo, because she WANTED TO.

We actually saw Ganghwa say that he felt guilty to Yuri. Whenever he started to feel happy, he remembered Yuri, and the guilt stopped him from actually enjoying the happiness. I think that's the sole reason he's still holding back from Minjung. 

I also feel strongly bothered bu the notion "Ganghwa and Seowoo belongs to Yuri". That sounds like Minjung 'stole' something feom Yuri, like she is enjoying a life that is not hers. I mean, of course Yuri married Ganghwa and gave birth to Seowoo. But Minjung was the one who comforted him and raised Seowoo. Let's not take the credits from the one who deserves it. 
Now the only thing I need is for the writer to show us more of Ganghwa and Minjung's story.

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I agree... Minjung did not steal anything from Yuri because she died and she didn't do anything wrong with Yuri. It's not like its Temptation of Wife.

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Guilt and self blaming has been eating Ganghwa up since the day Yu-ri died. We see his friends and mother in law trying to help him but it doesn't seems to work. Yu-ri is the only one who will get through to him.

I don't care for the other ghosts either. If we could take all their scenes out we probably will end up with 12 episodes.

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I see the dorama for the ghosts... 😇😇.. I love your histories. Especially Kang Bin and Park Jin.

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I don’t understand why anyone would trust their small child to Min jung she clearly has a drinking problem, is insecure and at times seriously depressed. I think it would be best if she disappeared from the story so See Woo could grow up with her real Mum and Kang-wa could have his wife back. See woo is going to miss out on loving grandparents and Aunty if they keep going like it is. Also Yuri is not the instigator of her situation a higher power is so only the writers have understanding of the purposes behind bringing her back.
The thing that annoys me the most is the wimpy way Kang wa is handling the situation, I wouldn’t want to be his patient while he is so insecure about everything he does, you don’t get to be a surgeon with those characteristics. Why do they all keep secrets it’s far better to bring it out in the open so everyone can contribute to the solution.

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Thank God you are not Yuri because it seems you can seem throw people out or make them disappear without seeing the whole picture. I know this is just a drama or fiction, but this actually shows how people are and how they treat other people. I hope some people stop asking people to live in their fantasy. The writers can make yuri live without changing other peoples characters especially yuri...

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Thanks for the recap.

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