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The Time I’ve Loved You: Episode 6

This is an hour of persistent second leads who don’t seem to understand the word no, and the effect they have on our two best friends. (Or are they?) Unfortunately for Hana, she’s drawn to what’s bad for her like a moth to the flame, which is all the more upsetting when she’s got a perfectly good companion in Won who wants nothing more than to make her happy. Even if his idea of making her happy is to hide things from her that might make her unhappy. I’m not sure if the logic works, but intent matters, and Won has nothing if not a heart of gold.

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EPISODE 6 RECAP

Though Won would rather get Hana away from Seo-hoo as quickly as possible, Seo-hoo treats him more like a pest, claiming his business is with Hana. As Won begins to lead her into the house, Seo-hoo stops her by asking, “Weren’t you waiting for me?”

It’s true, but Hana refuses to give him the satisfaction of knowing that. Did he think she’d wait around because of the note he sent her? “Why? Who do you think you are, Seo-hoo? Who are you for me to wait for you? Don’t ever come near me again.”

She turns toward the house, but Seo-hoo grabs her by the wrist. “Did you wait long?” he asks, more tenderly this time. She pulls her hand away, and Won leads her inside. Seo-hoo grips his chest over his heart as he remarks, “You’ve become a lot stronger, Oh Hana.”

Only when they’re in Hana’s room does she realize Won’s been holding her hand and slowly moves away. Won looks at the stuffed bunny in her room and thinks back to the way she just told off Seo-hoo while Hana gathers her strength to face him and talk about what happened.

All she has to do is say she doesn’t want the bunny around anymore for Won to take it for disposal. But he stops at the punching bag hanging from her wall and asks if she doesn’t want to get rid of that too.

Flash back to when Hana had been wallowing in depression after being left at the altar, with neither her mother or Won being able to rouse her. He’d come back with the punching bag, installed it, and opened up her curtains to let the light in.

Encouraging her to use it to vent her anger, he’d challenged her to practice on it for a week before going head to head with him in an arcade punching game. Whoever loses would have to buy chicken feet for three years.

It had been enough to get her up and out then, and they return to the same punching game in the present. Won wins, which means Hana has to buy him snacks, which she’s not happy about. But it’s good to see that Won can get her out of a funk.

They bicker together cutely on their way home about whether strength is affected by age, and Won challenges her to start exercising with him tomorrow morning. Whoever’s late has to buy chicken feet.

Before Hana goes into her house, she spots the bunny and punching bag Won put in the garbage for her. “The reason why you look back on things you’ve thrown away,” she muses to herself, “is not because you don’t know why you threw them away. It’s because you wonder if you’ll need them again one day. You never know when that day will come.”

The next morning, Won smiles to see that the bunny and punching bag have been taken by the garbage man. (Hopefully she didn’t bring them back inside when he wasn’t looking.) He’s full of energy for their morning run while Hana struggles behind, acting like she’s never walked a day in her life.

So-eun notices how bright and cheerful Won is at work the next day, but he just attributes it to the weather. He’s even kinder to the passengers on the plane.

Hana gets to present her new project at work regarding their expansion into the Chinese market via a company named Jumei Group, which is received well by her team.

But seeing a public display of affection outside makes her think of when Seo-hoo had joined her in an airplane bathroom. She’d been worried about someone seeing them, which is why he’d chosen such a private and intimate spot. There they stayed, just holding each other. She smiles at the memory.

So-eun ends up picking Seo-hoo’s concert album in a real live bookstore, unaware that the artist himself is standing right behind her. They realize that they share the same taste in music before So-eun turns around and recognizes him—she’d seen him leave Won’s office the other day.

When asked how he knows Won, Seo-hoo just says they go way back. He asks her the same question and she answers that she’s Won’s company hoobae. But then she adds ruefully, “I think he prefers friends over lovers.”

Seo-hoo instantly knows she means Hana, and though she’s surprised that he knows her, she listens closely when he asks her to do him a favor. Uh oh, are they teaming up to separate Won and Hana?

Mi-hyang’s noticed that Won seems much more upbeat lately and asks him to tell her what’s causing it—unless it’s Hana. When Won doesn’t answer because it is about Hana, she begrudgingly gives him the go-ahead to tell her anyway.

“I’m proud of Hana these days,” Won says with a smile. There was an issue that worried him, but she overcame it better than he thought she would. Mi-hyang just sighs that he should just marry Hana when they’re older if he likes her so much, but seems surprised when Won replies, “Should I?”

Hana rushes off to work the next morning for her big presentation, and Won gives her a call to cheer her on. She invites him to multiple movies, but he cites her age and brings her down to just one—with beer afterward. Call!

They go to the movie and have a blast, both of them laughing obnoxiously loud in the theater. But when the movie gets sad and Won looks as though he’s about to cry, Hana just looks at him with an unreadable expression. Pity? Understanding?

Seo-hoo sends Hana a a text that he’s outside her house, but she doesn’t get it as she and Won head out for something to eat. They drink to her new project and have a rollicking good time.

After a few drinks, Hana notes that Won never got close to any of her past boyfriends. But it goes both ways, since she was never close to any of his girlfriends either. Won guesses that it was because, as an outsider, they could see things that they wouldn’t be able to see while inside the relationship.

“You’re blinded when you’re in love, so you can’t see things clearly for yourself,” Won explains. The person in the relationship can’t see what’s ahead, but the person who’s one step behind can. Hana picks that time to point out that she thought all his past girlfriends were awful, and Won acknowledges that none of his girlfriends liked her all that much either.

But when she sends him a look, Won concedes that he won’t date any woman she doesn’t like from here on out. They share a laugh and more drinks, but Hana drills in that he can’t see any girl without her prior approval.

Seo-hoo waits until he can’t anymore, and sends Hana a text that he’ll just see her tomorrow. Kthxbai.

At a work lunch the next day, So-eun asks Won who his ideal woman would be. He claims that the idea of an ideal woman only exists when you’re young, but So-eun presses him on a different topic: “What is Hana Unni’s ideal man?”

Won thinks about this, and remembers asking Hana the same question during their high school days. She’d said that she’d find her ideal man through a kiss, which had bewildered Won—don’t women normally look at things like looks?

But Hana disagreed, saying instead that if she didn’t feel a deep enough connection to kiss her prospective partner on the first date, then it’d be an automatic no-go. If they were to pass that test though, she’d date the guy who would make her heart pound and her head feel hazy.

Won had interjected to say that she reads too many romance novels. And besides, the kind of love she’s talking about is damaging—not just to her, but to the people around her who’d have to watch her lose herself. Despite his warnings, Hana had said dreamily, “Someday, I want to experience that kind of crazy love.”

In the present, Hana resorts to deleting Seo-hoo’s text messages before she gets another call from So-eun inviting her out. Ugh. Has she not learned her lesson? Is she a glutton for punishment?

So-eun’s set her up on a blind date, and doesn’t listen when Hana declines and gets ready to leave. It’s then that So-eun reveals it’s not such a blind date after all, since the man in question knows her, and So-eun was curious to know what kind of relationship they had. Oh, So-eun. Now you’ve gone full Second Female Lead, haven’t you?

Of course, it’s Seo-hoo who shows up for the date. He explains that he asked So-eun for the favor because he just had to meet her, and asks if she’s been avoiding him because Won told her to. Hana doesn’t answer that and instead asks him to get to the point: What could he possibly want from her after all these years?

Seo-hoo: “I realized something I didn’t know before: that I’m always thinking about you. Whenever I’m walking by myself or driving, whether it’s snowing like crazy or the sun is shining, I think of you. Even when I would hear someone talking in Korean in the heart of New York, I wanted it to be your voice. I think I’m losing my mind. Then I realized why. You were the one I wanted most in my life. The memory of the time we spent together was so passionate and profound that I couldn’t erase it no matter who I dated. I wanted to see you again. I needed to see you. That’s why I came back.”

So-eun reports to Won that Hana’s with Seo-hoo like she wasn’t the one who set up that meeting, clearly looking to drive a wedge between the two of them. Ugh. Just ugh.

Hana leaves, but Seo-hoo follows her out. He knows it was hard on her, but asks her to think about how hard it was for him, too. Oh yeah, it must’ve been awful for you to walk out on your own wedding and not contact your would-be bride for three years. Quick, strike up the band of small violins!

When Hana says she doesn’t want to talk to him any further, he asks if it’s because she’s afraid her feelings toward him will waver. “You’re using all your strength to push me away. I can see everything, Hana.” That’s when they hear Won calling her name, desperately looking for her.

Seo-hoo makes a comment about Won following Hana around like a dog, and when she turns to leave he calls after her, “Don’t think you know everything!”

Hana doesn’t go to Won, and Won has no luck calling her cell. He finds Seo-hoo instead and grabs him by the lapels, demanding to know why he keeps appearing in front of Hana.

Seo-hoo asks if Won ever thought that he shouldn’t be acting like this for Hana’s sake before adding that had it not been for Won, he and Hana wouldn’t have turned out this way. “If you didn’t hurt Hana, things wouldn’t have turned out this way,” Won growls back.

But Seo-hoo disagrees, claiming that Won stole his opportunity to care for Hana. Won fires back that it was Seo-hoo who abandoned her, only for Seo-hoo to answer, “I didn’t abandon Hana. And you’re still getting in between our relationship. I’m telling you this again, Choi Won. You don’t have the right to block me.”

Won isn’t cowed by this at all. “You’re wrong. You’ll never get to Hana. I’ll stop you with everything I’ve got.”

So-eun goes running to Mi-hyang to tell her she’s never seen Won so mad before, she finds out that Seo-hoo and Hana used to date (I think her surprise here is false). Meanwhile, Hana falls asleep to memories of her almost-wedding day and wakes up late for work the next morning.

After getting a talking-to at work for the damage she caused by being late, Hana goes out for drinks with her old high school buddies. And then another. And another. At Na-young’s urging, a drunken Hana invites Won out to where they are, but he doesn’t answer.

So-eun apologizes for telling Won about Hana and Seo-hoo, and acts all innocent when she asks who Seo-hoo is to him, even though she’s lying because Mi-hyang already told her. She notes that whatever it is going on between Seo-hoo and Hana seems to have him worried.

And though she doesn’t know what’s going on, she sees it as a chance to get closer to Won, which is her top priority right now. (Take. A. Hint!) When Won asks wonderingly how it is that she just blurts out everything she’s feeling, she replies, “If I hide my feelings, then the other person wouldn’t know my heart. Because then there’s a chance I might lose that person.”

That gets Won, the reigning King of Repressed Feelings, to thinking.

Though the trio of girls were expecting Won to come, instead it’s Jung-mi’s ex-fiancé, who immediately drops to his knees to say he’s sorry and wants to start over. He’s welcomed back into the fold, and Hana watches their reconciliation almost a little too closely. Noooo, Hana. Don’t even think about it!

But she does think about it in voiceover: “If you find out something you didn’t know before, would it be possible to turn back the clock on love?” She specifically thinks about Seo-hoo telling her that she didn’t know everything, and how Jung-mi’s fiancé came around because he realized something he didn’t know before.

Director Byun gives a presentation on an upcoming collaboration between their shoe company and top star Cha Seo-hoo (since when did he earn celebrity status?), projected to take three months. Hana will be in charge of the project at Seo-hoo’s request, and there’s nothing she can do to get out of it.

Dae-bok manages to get Won to agree to provide tickets for his parents’ anniversary next week, and arranges to get some gift certificates from Hana so he can buy their gifts with them.

Hana finds out from her assistant that Director Byun is going on a business trip to China with the design team only, which means he’s purposefully leaving out Hana’s team. She confronts Team Leader Hwang from the design team about the trip, only for the snooty woman to tell Hana it’s all her fault—whenever she dates, her work life suffers.

She brings up the incident with Won fighting the groom at Min-ji’s wedding, the scandal with Sung-jae, and now her “famous” boyfriend who’s been poking around the office.

“Everyone at work knows that you can’t maintain a clear line between professional and personal matters,” she all but sneers. “Stop distracting yourself with your dating problems and get your head on straight, Team Leader Oh Hana.”

“It wasn’t that I didn’t know, but that I forgot that even a small crack can let in a wind that could destroy everything. What the thirty-four year old me has to take responsibility for is more than heartbreak and love,” Hana thinks to herself after.

Won and Hana’s father end up crossing paths, so they go out for drinks so Dad can drown his sorrows about Mom’s incessant nagging ever since he spent a night out late. Won laughs and admits he’s jealous that he and his wife even get to have fights over love.

That’s when Dad tsks, “You kids are still like this even after turning thirty-four. How come you two have never changed from your school days?”

Won thinks about those words on his rooftop later, which brings him back to his high school days. After Na-young had grilled the two of them in a church, she’d played a game of truth or dare with Hana. Won wanted to know what she was asked, and Hana said it was the same question as before—what does Won mean to her?

He was eager to know the answer, so Hana told him exactly what she told Na-young: “Until I die, Choi Won is someone who will be more important to me than my boyfriend, husband, or family. I hope we’ll stay that way. That’s my honest answer.”

Won had been beaten up for liking Hana shortly after, and had finally admitted to Hana that she was the reason he got hurt. She wondered if they picked a fight because he was her friend, and pre-empted what she was sure he’d say next, since he’d said it before: “I’ll never love you.”

She never gave Won a chance to rebut what he didn’t even say before she added defeatedly, “Don’t worry, Choi Won. I won’t love you either.” But that’s not at all what Won wanted to hear, as he says in voiceover:

“If you knew back then the secret I couldn’t tell you, would you have been happier? All the times you were heartbroken and the difficulties you faced, would I have been able to stop that? If you knew the secret even now, if you found out everything you didn’t know about, will I be able to protect you?

“If it’s not too late… would it be okay if I started loving you?”

Flash back to Won spying on Hana reading one of her cheesy romance novels in the library, shortly before the lights cut out. They’d found their way to each other in the darkness, and when Hana turned around, her lips bumped into Won’s.

 
COMMENTS

For the love of all that is dramatically holy, what is this big secret Won’s kept to himself for so many years? What could be so earth-shattering that he couldn’t bear to tell Hana? More importantly, how deeply rooted is this secret that Won allowed himself to suffer all these years in silence?

It’s a noble idiot move in a way, but I hate to use that term when Won’s so far displayed far more nobility than idiocy. But it’s starting to toe that line, where I’m concerned that he took on all the pain himself so that Hana wouldn’t have to suffer any. Suffer from what, exactly? Who knows. We certainly don’t. (Yet.)

There are still more questions than answers when it comes to Won’s past and how his high school experience seemed to relate directly to whether he could or couldn’t love Hana. When he’s having to scream “Why can’t I like Hana?!” to a bunch of kids beating him up for liking Hana, there’s got to be more going on beneath the surface than just a random encounter, or boyish jealousy. It’s almost as if someone was deliberately working to stop Won from pursuing her, but since we so far haven’t seen any sign that Seo-hoo attended the same high school, it’s hard to say from what little we know.

And since everyone but Hana seems to have secrets that cannot be shared with her under any circumstances ever, now we have Seo-hoo, who acts as though there was more to leaving Hana at the altar than, well, leaving Hana at the altar. I’m sorry, if you’re going to shout at the girl you abandoned for three years that she doesn’t know the whole story behind why you abandoned her, then that whole story better be apocalyptic in scale. I’m talking scorched earth, you were thrown into a dungeon furnished with one piano and a bucket and were released just days before re-entering Hana’s life sort of story. And I somehow doubt it’ll be anything close to that.

What’s also curious is that Seo-hoo seems to blame Won for what he did to Hana, and how he seems to take no personal responsibility for it. Heck, he even admitted to Hana that he dated in the three years they’ve been apart, so I hope she doesn’t take it as a compliment that none of those girls could surpass her in his mind. Even if Won did interfere, which seems unlikely given that he was a guest at the wedding, what could have been so bad that Seo-hoo had to leave without a word? I’m all for Hana finding true love, but unless the two male prospects in her life start to actually trust her with all their angsty secrets and give her a say in things, maybe she’s better off on her own.

 
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I'm the first...for the first time!

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Then why didn't you say something insightful? Be ready with a comment next time you have the choice opportunity. I'm finding this shows pace frustrating and the actors skills being wasted.

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Excuse me? Who are you to tell me to say something insightful? I haven't read any insightful comments from you in this drama.
Is there a pre-requisite for being the first?

For your info, I was and am at work (even now) when I read the recap and couldn't resist posting my comment. The reason I didn't post something insightful was because i didn't have time. Was called away to do something.

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It's okay, you've always been posting pretty detailed comments. We know it! (=

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crazyahjummafan's comments are usually plenty insightful, w/o being of novel length. They are great reads.
If one writes a long comment, it probably won't be first anymore. ?

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Unless you type it out and have it ready to pasted later like what I suspect some people do which I kinda find disrespectful to the people who toil at putting the recaps out there. At least read it first or something. lol

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If it's a show I'm really into I sometimes type out comments while I wait for the recap to come out and post it before I read just because my thoughts are fresh then. I've usually got so much stuff running around my head, that if I don't get them down right away, I'll forget. I haven't done that in a while because I haven't run across anything I really love.

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Maybe Seo-hoo felt like Hana would never detach herself from Won, that he'd never replace Won as the most important person in her life. That was my take on why he blamed Won, but whatever, dude, you were a shitty boyfriend. Own up to it. Hana was ready to marry you, so whatever insecurity you had was entirely your fault.

I really can't stand him. Hana, resist! Your situation is not the same as Jung-mi's, so don't even think there was a lesson to learn there!

I really do like this show, but I'm worried that I'll be dissatisfied with Won's reason for withholding his feelings. Like my reaction will be "WTF?!" when we find out. I hope I'm wrong, but I can't imagine a legit reason that doesn't involve some hidden illness or family secret. And I don't want the show to go there!

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What does the book in his room have to do with it? It must tie into his reason.

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The book in his room? You mean the one eyed fish poem? This explanation of the poem may be of some help.
http://aliwriting107.blogspot.sg/2008/05/one-eyed-fishs-love.html
Not sure if this blogger's interpretation of the poem many years ago is really what Won feels though...

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I think when he was referring to his "secret" at the end he actually meant the fact that he's been in love with Hana all these years (and not that there's a secret why he can't love her, but there may as well be one)? Therefore he said, "if you knew my secret, would I still be able to protect you?" I think that sorta explain (a part of) why he wouldn't tell her he loves her. He wants to stay with her forever and protect her. For him, love changes and leaves, but he will still always be by Hana's side, more important than a bf or husband. It just never occur to him that he can actually be the bf/husband and best friend all in one.

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I second your views. Having his mum leaving him and his father for another "love" may have have given him the twisted opinion that romantic "love" does not last and so he would rather not be in that kind of relationship with Hana because he doesn't want a transient relationship but wants to protect her forever?
But now he seems to realize that his act of not revealing his secret of "loving" her has resulted in her being hurt by others whom she thought "loves" her and if she knew of this secret, she would not have been hurt by the other guys.
Am I making sense? Haha

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Do you think it was because she didn't seem shaken by that accidental kiss, and so he thought, "if she's not going to fall crazily in love with me, I'd rather protect the secret"?

But then, that only explains the next 17 years. Not all the reasons why he got beat up and why he kept saying he doesn't like her...

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There is sthg off about that wedding scene, well apart from the gloom not being there. Won looked on with a relaxed smile thru out the party. I thought he looked too happy considering that his Hana is marrying a guy he doesn't like, and a guy he knows to be cheating on her.

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I'm really in two minds about that scene too. I know it's recapped as her wedding, but she didn't look like the bride at all! More like a bridesmaid? And her family wasn't there either. -_-

You've got a very good point though. He really seemed quite relaxed and cheerful.

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Maybe it's an engagement party?

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Like I said yesterday, at this pt, if Won isn't gay or impotent, I'm going to blow a fuze at his behaving this way.

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Ehhh...if Won is gay, how could he possible love Hana? Please don't tell me he is gay and secretly in love with Cha Seo-hoo...too much drama for me if that's the case

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:) @chubbygal

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I was just being sarcastic.

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Maybe Seo-hoo cheated on Hana with Won....

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Let's just write a fanfic hahah

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I really hate when the men in dramas infantalize the ladies to the point of not giving them any agency in their own lives. Who runs around town like a crazy person because a grown woman is having a conversation with a grown man? Yeah, we get that she has a soft spot when it comes to men... but she's till grown and able to make her own decisions. I've been pissed ever since last episode when Won purposefully monopolized all of Hana's time so that she wouldn't know Seo-hoo was in town. Um? How you gonna love her but not respect her?Seo-hoo's no better. Like, is she so dumb that all you have to do is get rid of Won and she'll automatically forget how terribly you treated her. Like, she doesn't know you're a jerk unless another man tells her?

Praying for a female lead with a brain to come along one of these days.

So-eun, why baby-girl? I know you were manipulative from the beginning but I didn't hate on you too much because you were pretty out in the open with it and Won didn't bother to stop you, so, do you. But now, you know the deal. Your problem is not even that he likes someone else, it's that he doesn't like you. How is resorting to even more underhanded tricks to get Hana out of the way going to make him suddenly like you? It don't work like that. Really, I have to hand it to her, though. She's a stronger girl than me. Because, after that bike-riding/batting cage debacle, I would have been humiliated enough to switch jobs and change my name. Way to be thick skinned, I guess?

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Also, I'm thoroughly prepared to be flipping tables when all these secrets are revealed because it's pretty much impossible for it to live up to the hype at this point. Literally nothing is that big a deal.

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Preach it.

You know, this friendship thing could be great and wonderful, if not for the fact that (a) it's a lie and (b) there is no trust between them. Won doesn't trust Ha-na, otherwise he wouldn't treat her as a five-year-old.

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In his defense, she acted like a five year old for the first four episodes. I haven't finished watching episode five nor have I started episode six so I don't know if the new writers have toned that down a bit. But, even still. A real friend/love interest would have told her to cut that out about 3 years into their 17 year friendship.

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That's not true. I insist that she acted like a teenager.

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Haha!

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Well, far as I'm concerned, I love the leads, but the show is going more or less the way of Warm & Cozy, aka Stupid & Frustrating, okay maybe less, in that I only watch for the visuals, don't feel any emotions, and can't remember a thing 10 mins. after I watch an ep.

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Warm and cozy was still watchable cause YYS made that character an attractive jerk ( still I can't figure out what attracted me about Gun Woo!!! It's a mystery)

But here, despite of my immense love for LJW, I couldn't push myself to watch it properly. I like the romance between long time best friends, I like LJW even I like his acting as Won but something is just missing !!!

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@KDaddict?JCW

:D I'm joining this club!!! I have to make little notes as I watch or everything is gone (well practically everything) once the show ends, because nothing much is outstanding enough to be remembered ... As a character-driven show, we need the characters to reveal more about themselves and motives, to grow somewhat or just be more interesting. I can say that they have maintained a certain level but the writing is probably not letting them go beyond to greater depths.

Yes, I fear it is in danger of joining W&C. The only Advantage I can think of: I'll have more time for a better show :)

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i came in loving this drama. Watched the first 4 eps twice. But despite my love for Won and Hana (LJW & HJW), I too am corssing my fingers and toes that it doesn't end up like W&C. And I prefer Won to Guen Woo.

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Yup definitely Won over Guen Woo anytime.... such a pesky ambivalent dolt.

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Hi GB,
You take notes? Wow! Then you put this addict to shame. These days, w these shows being at this level, I mostly watch w one eye closed.

I also prefer Won to GW, but the teams of writers are stretching the mystery of his secret and our patience too damned thin. What could be so damn bad really, that he has to declare that he can't ever love her, when he obviously does? It just gets stupid and annoying.

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ya anyone would pick Won not Geub Woo , because Won is sane , but GW was beyond sanity. I was not comparing GW to Won. As a character Won is wayyyyyy better than GW. I just want to say I am not even a fan of YYS , I like LJW to death, but YYS made me watch the show more precisely did not let me drop it but here I dont know what is actually the problem!!! LJW is perfectly portraying Won.
I first read recaps then decide whether to watch the episode or not.

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I wanna rant too! Am I the only one disappointed with the casting of the supposedly HAUNTING ex-boyfriend? I can't even see ANY chemistry at all to make me understand like Oh why was she so in love with him and so hung up on him? Yes, he's tall but that's about it. I think these young actors are too intimidated by Ha Jiwon's beauty and years of acting to be able to connect with her in their characters. And yeah, it makes me cringe because he still looked inexperienced(the height doesn't make him any matured looking enough for Ha Jiwon). The Taiwan version had an actor whom I was totally not familiar with but boy, did he play the character well I had to award him as the handsome jerk of the year. Not to mention he also connected well with the lead actress, damn those hot kisses! So, yeah, the Korean version is making me impatient. Can they hurry up and dump the 2nd male lead so that the 1st male lead can triumph already?

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"I think these young actors are too intimidated by Ha Jiwon’s beauty and years of acting to be able to connect with her in their characters". Hmmm... I can't really agree with that. I haven't watched all her dramas, but I find that there are younger, less experienced actors who have connected with her in their characters. Take Lee Seunggi, for instance. Many were worried when he took on TK2H that due to the age gap, he would have no chemistry with her, but he did amazingly. A good bit was probably due to HJW's ability to connect with her co-leads. Then, in this drama, L (Sungjae) had a pretty good chemistry with her too.

Maybe there isn't much chemistry at the moment, cause she's angry with him and the script hasn't really thrown them together much.

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This x 4: "..Praying for a female lead with a brain to come along one of these days.."

I have pretty much given up on this drama for just that reason. It is not the noble idiocy, it is the purposeless idiocy = being dumb for no good reason.

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I completely agree with your point and would like to expand your point a little.

Whenever a remake is made it's up to the new actor to breathe a new life into a character, but still maintain the integrity of the original character to a certain extent. Some argue that each adaption should stand alone but I'd argue that if it weren't for that special something about the original there'd be no desire for future adaptions.

Ariel Lin's "You Qing" had her shortfalls and imperfections but she owned them. She knew she was a piece of work and Da Ren accepted her faults and loved her for them. You Qing was aware of what was happening or was informed of everything. She wasn't a mere victim of circumstance unlike Oh Ha Na. No man was calling the shots for her life without her consent and that's what made her character so endearing, for me.

Ha Ji Won's "Oh Ha Na" is at the complete mercy of the men in her life. The boss that's always talking down to her, the assistant that manipulated her, the father that's pushing her towards a relationship she isn't sure she wants, a best friend who intentionally keeps her in dark because he's "taking care of her," and a boyfriend who doesn't even let her finish a thought. Just no free thought or emotion of her own. Currently, the writing staff has failed to even make Ha Na a multidimensional person because we've spent so much time on Won's inconsequential reason for not being with Ha Na.

The integrity of this show and the characters is just wrong. These women are helpless, manipulative, incapable and worst are waiting for some man to come make everything okay. The original stressed the importance of maintaining yourself, your independence, and being true to yourself even in a relationship. Here, there's a group of women who haven't a clue who they are or how to find themselves.

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I love how Won gets Hana out of her moods. In ep 3 or 4, when she was crying because of Sung Jae, he deliberately mentions about her age to get her upset with him. Better to see her angry then mopey about someone who betrayed her.
And now see how he creatively gave her a punching bag to vent out her anger and frustrations, and issued a challenge to beat him at the arcade. He knows what makes her tick. SDo sweet.

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this drama turns into a makjang drama. huft. Yet, they call it a 'remake'. i just miss watching a simple-down to earth-and realistic In Time With You.

thanks for the recap, i havent continued it and i think of only following your recaps. :)

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No matter what, Won is love. He's the constant fixture in her life, the relatable companion. Some might call him a soulmate. I call him love.

Often people have a hard time trying to work out things when they fall for their best friend, whether to keep being friends because if/when they break up it might hurt their friendship, they might loose their friendship, but to confess their feelings ignoring the negative circumstances. I personally prefer friendship but its gotta hurt a lot to give up on love.

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That 2nd male lead has a serious disease, that's why he left Hana. Okay

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I agree that the 2nd male I think has a heart related disease - clenching his heart/chest - manager following him in a car while he is jogging.

I am a big fan of both or our leads, however:
1. They really should stop the flashback to HS - very unrealistic on a bad day. They lived next door to each other for ages - so can't we simply move the flashbacks to college, late 20's ...or better yet - STOP the flashbacks. I think they that in our 6 episodes - they are a bit redundant.
2. I concur with "Z" regarding the female's agency. Why does female leads have to be one dimensional - strong career/bad relationship or great love/poor unemployed temp worker. I am not advocating a person without problems/concerns/issues however, I am asking if the writers can nuance their personalities a little more.
3. Can we have viable seconds leads...game changers?

However, I love her family - parents and younger brother are adorable. I find myself looking forward to their lines more than Won and Hana...that makes me sad, because I have watched the majority of their dramas and movies. I am now more curious about the original.

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Even if he has a heart disease, he shouldn't just leave her at the altar and disappear for 3 years.
Even if he had a heart attack on that wedding day, he should still have someone tell her soon as possible.

Viable 2nd leads must be very difficult to write. Why else don't we get to see them much at all?

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Yep, I can't remember what show it was but there was one a couple of years ago where the female lead's love interest disappeared because he was in some kind of accident and in a coma in a foreign country for several months (don't remember if he was the lead or the second lead). And I was still like "No excuse, dude. You could have called her when you woke up."

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Witch's Romance.

I think he had zero contact for like six years, with about 5 and a half them where he was perfectly capable of contacting her. And that's ignoring the part that he left telling her a lie about where he was going, because if he had, she would have been the first one contacted as "next of kin" the moment he got injured and fell into a coma.

So yeah, there's virtually no scenario that can justify these "disappearances".

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Also a Taiwan remake. But in WR they had a part where he was led to believe that she hated and would never speak to him again under any circumstance.

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Witch's Romance is the remake of Taiwan's My Queen, not the other way around :)
Didn't watch WR but in MQ, the boyfriend met with some accident while on a photography assignment in a war zone or something.

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Yes, I meant Witch's Romance is another Korean remake of a Taiwan drama (My Queen).

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Haha! I thought that he clenched his heart cos it was a k-drama thing to do - you know to show that his heart ached cos Hana was strong enough to reject him.
And the manager following him in the car - cos he's a well-known musician? Can't have someone kidnapping him?

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Hah. I thought he was acting melo. And it was not very believable for him to physically feel the pain of her rejection, since he seemed too aloof and pompous so far. Guess hyung is doing a good job of being irritating. Just like the actress for So-eun. (I way way way prefer her to the irritating Ji-won from W&C!) But I still dislike the character.

I think I've seen enough cases of agents chasing after their stars to not find it surprising.

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'Won, the reigning King of Repressed Feelings.' Hahahaha. The writer switch made me worried now because the overall tone shifted into a slightly more makjang territory. For example, Seo-hoo and his 'I know you suffered, but I also suffered a lot too!'. The way he was gripping his heart made me think he had some medical condition which is totally makjang. And So-eun went from a harmless hoobae to a full-fledged thick-skinned, persistent, annoying second lead.

I don't like how they changed Won's character the most. Starting from episode 5, it looked like he interfered too much in Hana's life, and I don't get that vibe from the first 4 episodes. And I hate that Won reminds me of I Need Romance 2 (also Lee Jin-Wook) and his Totally Repressed Feelings for His Bestie/Lover/Sex Partner (although Hana is relatively more mature than the lead female there). I have little to say about Hana, because I am okay with the direction they are going with her character so far, and I can relate to her struggles in work and life. Although I still think she shouldn't waver because of that jerk no matter what his reasons are because how do you expect her to understand his reasons when he didn't even EXPLAIN it in he first place? You don't deserve to be understood when you don't explain. Period.

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I stopped watching at episode 4. I've been skimming through latest recaps because I wanted to find out that secret of Won's, why he can't let Hana know he loves her. At this moment I feel like this could drag for many episodes and when the reason is revealed its a stupid one that doesn't make sense.

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Where's the like button when I need it most?

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No kidding. I kind of get this feeling that the huge secrets are like the School 2015 secrets - much more for the cliffhanger effect than any huge revelation.

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Yep. Dragging already when it's just the 6th episode.

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Can I just say that Won wearing denim on denim with his hair split down the center gave me major 90's flashbacks and I don't know how I feel about it...

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LOL me too... I was like Justin Timberlake? is that you?

speaking of the nineties my work hoobae was telling me she was born the year titanic came out and i was just "but but...I saw Titanic in theaters! noooooooooo"

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Titanic was in 1997, so your hoobae is just 18 this year?

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Thanks for the recaps. After the news of change in writers I stopped watching and just waited for the recaps.
So sad for how things turned out for this drama. I was so into it after Episode 1 because being almost 30ish, I can deeply relate to the heroine's life - successful career, yet still unmarried. We call that "titas of Manila" here in the Philippines. Wish the drama ventured more towards that line and with the long-time friend almost lover, it's could have been a winner story.

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I want to like this show, but I think I've come to the point where I just don't understand why anyone does anything. They needed to give us more information on why Won isn't saying anything because at this point, I think he's just a coward and he should've said something by now. Hana has a little bit of an excuse for not saying anything because as far as she knows, he doesn't think of her that way.

I guess if he did say something, there wouldn't be a drama but..you gotta throw us a bone! Make me understand Won because I don't right now.

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Yes, we need to be invested in our characters to be interested and happy viewers ... we need to understand to be invested. The lack of explanation seems like the writers' way of eke-ing out a story with little plot... just to keep the viewer in the dark so that we are supposed to be waiting with baited breath for the big reveal.

Unfortunately, not all viewers are going to be willing to risk being strung along as we can see from our comments here.

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Honestly, I've never said "oh f**k OFF!" so many times in one kdrama episode before. Oy! these characters *smacks head*

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". I just don’t understand why anyone does anything.." Is the main reason why I finally gave up and just skim the recaps. None of the shows I really like except Mask are being recapped, so kind of bored.

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Thanks Heads!
I have to say that I'm disliking Won more in the last 2 episodes.

“I’m proud of Hana these days,” Won says with a smile. There was an issue that worried him, but she overcame it better than he thought she would." ... sounds like something a father would say, or something a friend who did not have too high an opinion of Ha Na would say. Is Won's attitude patronising?

Perhaps the way this story is written is leaving out anything else that our leads may find interesting but I'm finding it stifling (for Ha Na's sake, since she is not aware of it) that there seems little else to raise or wreck Won's mood than something to do with her. He has no good news to share if it does not involve her. If not for So Eun's pushiness, he'd have gone out with no one except Ha Na. It's a thin line to me to be 'so much in love' or 'almost obsessive' in how Won lives his life.

I continue to dislike that he does not tell her stuff that she has a right to know and that he takes away her chance to make her own decisions by doing so. Ha Na may like to be protected to some extent, but Won should find out just how far that protection ought to go.

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I know what you're saying but don't you think that we are being rather judgemental? Isn't this strange that we moan and grouse when a character is written too perfectly (our candy girls) or one-dimensionally evil? And we wish that the writers would give them depth? And here comes Won, who has spent half his life or more loving one girl and doing super-sweet things for her and to her and is near perfect. But he becomes over-protective and we dislike him because he's not perfect. But we forgive bad, evil characters if there's the slightest redeeming quailty in them.

Having said that, I personally do not think that he's being over-protective. I can actually understand where Won is coming from. He's not your normal BFF or confidante. I have people sharing their problems with me. I lend them a shoulder to cry on, I even cry with them and offer advice and help or just hold their hands. But after that, I move on with my life. I'm still concerned about them but their problems don't become mine. It is different with Won.

All these years, he has been Hana's confidante, and not just a friend. Their status maybe friends, but she's the love of his life. She IS his life. So naturally, he wants her to be happy and if it means withholding certain info, he would do it. As a mother and wife, I can identify with this, especially with my children. If someone hurts them, I would do what it takes to stop them. It's not that I don't trust them to handle it. I just don't even want them to go through it. Of course, there are times when I have to let go, and let them 'learn from experience' and make their own decisions - but not if it means that I may never see them or be with them again. In SeoHoo's case, this may be the result. If Hana marries him, Won knows that this time, he'll bring her far, far away from him.

To do Won justice, he was not this protective until Seo Hoo made an appearance. He didn't stop Hana from seeing that two-timer, and was there for her when he played her out. He didn't stop her from seeing Sungjae - he just warned her not to read too much into his actions. Even in Seo Hoo's case, he let her go enough for her to marry him.

But this time round it's different. Hana in a very short time span, had gone through 2 disastrous relationships, - the first from a two-timer who chose a younger, more prestigious colleague over her, which caused her humiliation which she had to endure each time she goes to work; the second from a young punk who made use of her vulnerable state to deliberately pursue her for selfish reasons - again at the work place. And now, this ex of hers is returning to her life after he left her at the altar, without so much as an apology or explanation for THREE years. He now comes back and wants to resume the relationship. the first from a two-timer who chose a younger, more prestigious colleague over her, which caused her humiliation which she had to endure each time she goes to work; the second from...

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<As a mother and wife, I can identify with this, especially with my children. If someone hurts them, I would do what it takes to stop them. It’s not that I don’t trust them to handle it.

Protecting minors vs. adults is a very different thing.

<In SeoHoo’s case, this may be the result. If Hana marries him, Won knows that this time, he’ll bring her far, far away from him.

That's her choice to make. Won doesn't have some sort of ownership over Hana. She's not a desk lamp he gets to keep by his bed.

If he wants to help her, he needs to be upright with her, talk to her honestly but ultimately let her make her choice.

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It's true that protecting minors and adults are different, but spouses do that to each other too sometimes. It's something people do when they do not want their loved ones to be hurt. I'm not saying that that is the right thing to do - it all depends on the situation. In this case, Won not telling Hana that SH was back was something he felt she could not handle at that time, as she was still recovering from Sungjae's betrayal.

But I do agree that Won's a little too obessed with Hana. He needs to move away a little. Maybe that will make her realise how much he means to her and get her to stand on her own 2 feet more.

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I love me some complicated characters but I, too, have been disturbed by Won's behavior. I think the big problem here is that in trying to maintain an air of mystery around Won's motivations, the show has distanced us from his emotional journey. Yes, his reaction to Hana meeting up with her ex would be understandable and possibly even sympathetic if we knew clearly what emotional demons Won was battling--why he has kept silent all these years, what exactly his relationship to the ex is, why he doesn't trust Hana to take care of herself, etc. The show needs to do a better job of contextualizing Won's actions as a byproduct of his cowardice (or whatever it is that's prevented him from speaking honestly & openly about his feelings for her).

The friends-turned-lovers premise is one of my favorites in drama land, mostly because the conflicts (and relationships) inherently have such depth to them. It's messy to confront why someone hasn't followed his heart, gone after what he wanted, and risked failure. Fear & cowardice is messy but IMO so incredibly human. But by externalizing the source of Won's reluctance into some mysterious hidden reason, the show is putting the onus on plot (aka setting itself up to require a HUGE DRAMATIC PLOT REASON for why Won hasn't shared his love with Hana) for what, IMO, should be written into the characters. Not only would this make us love & root for the flawed and very human characters, it also would have set them both up for huge & satisfying character growth throughout the show.

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Oops!!! Only just re-read my comments and realised that the last 3 lines are repeated and that my last paragraph got chopped off. Probably too long. Sorry.

Just wanted to sat that in lieu of all that had happened to Hana, I can understand why Won wanted to protect her from SH. I would too.

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Thank you. I've been feeling Won's quite maligned over these two episodes, and you've explained it way better than I could.

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I'm sad that Yoon Kyun Sang has to play such a shitty character... but I really can't stand Seo Hoon.

"... now we have Seo-hoo, who acts as though there was more to leaving Hana at the altar..." This seems just so typical of these arrogant, self-centred characters. They accept no blame, make no apologies and point fingers at others. How he is going to justify that he did not abandon Ha Na will be a source of wonder for me. He's going to lay all the blame on Won in all probablity and if Ha Na believes Seo Hoon more than Won, I'm going to be so mad!

"I’m sorry, if you’re going to shout at the girl you abandoned for three years that she doesn’t know the whole story behind why you abandoned her, then that whole story better be apocalyptic in scale." Yes, and that story should have been told her within a day of abandoning her.

And with Heads on this "unless the two male prospects in her life start to actually trust her with all their angsty secrets and give her a say in things, maybe she’s better off on her own." You don't need them Ha Na, it's just society and your family that makes you feel like a loser if you don't get married. Mi Hyang seems fine after all!!!

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What I liked about this episode was that Ha Na wanted to recognise her love with a kiss ... and she actually did share an inadvertent kill with Won after that.... or maybe it wasn't inadvertent??? :D

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All the frustrations in the recap makes it a little frustrating to read. I really don't like soeun's character but I really think she really doesn't know what she did wrong. I think she def can tell seohoo is interested in hana and probably set the meeting up to pull hana away (which def is a little scheming in her way). But I really don't think she knew they dated. Finding out from mihyang that they dated also does not necessarily mean that she acted blur when ask won. Because she asked what is seohoo to won, because seohoo used to date hana so what? What's the issue won has with seohoo to meet his best friend again? Soeun IS frustrating but I blame this on the actress. She couldn't pull off the naive opportunist young girl but appeared to be more forced giving viewers even nastier impression of the character.

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Personally, I think they've written her character that way. The role of her character came to an end pretty quickly in the original, with little, or of no detrimental affect to Hana and Won's relationship - if anything, her presence highlighted and strengthened the bond between Hana and Won in the orig. So, having her play out as somewhat malicious as per your usual second lead drama trope, seems intentional and therefore is of no fault of the actress; at least that's the way I see it.

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It doesn't matter that they dated. It's not of her business to set up any blind dates for Hana. We all know the only reason she is doing this is for own gain – to remove her "rival" from Won and to get a chance to be with Won. But Won has already told her he's not interested. She's plain manipulative and that is wrong.

Plus, if she did know and thinks setting up Hana with the guy that Won despises is going to somehow improve her chances with Won, she's deluded. It actually gives Won reasons to dislike her!

I will say though that Hana is super-stupid to even talk to So-eun, let alone go on a date arranged by her.

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"I will say though that Hana is super-stupid to even talk to So-eun, let alone go on a date arranged by her."

This is as may be, however Ha Na has been so far trying to be as objective as possible and giving people a chance. She has also been polite (to a fault in this case?). It is quite consistent that she would have just sighed and gone despite the fact that it was So Eun who so presumptuously setting up the date.

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The writer swap is obvious with Soeun and her jump to Crazy Eyes Second Lead.

She was always a pitbull, going after what she wants without shame, but she was honest and upfront about it. Which offset the crazy.

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Won, the reigning King of Repressed Feelings... Hahaha, love that!

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I hate to break it to y'all but the truth if the matter is, that secret is nothing more than the fact that Won likes Ha Na all these years and is too scared to admit it. Why? Because he's scared to lose her. That's it unfortunately. You don't need to watch the original show to know it. I'm afraid there's nothing more too it than that, although they sure market it as if there is something bigger and more mysterious.

The voice -over dialogue at the end is just a reflection of what could have been, had he admitted his feelings along time ago.

It's kinda lame, but honestly, this premise can work ONLY if the story line and character development are thought - out and well - planned. Buuuuttt.... We know that's another story right there.

I'm just gonna try to watch it and judge it for its own merit. If I get ahead of myself, compare this to the original or read too much of the complaints, I'm gonna get upset like eveybody else here!

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I think they way they are marketing it seems overblown because we aren't looking at it from Won's and Hana's POV. It's a big thing to the both of them as they were friends first and that friendship was held very dear to the both of them. What if it doesn't work out? Even strangers who meet and start a relationship cannot stay friends after a relationship, so it's not unreasonable for Won to worry about losing Hana altogether if the relationship doesn't work out. Remember when her friend's wedding got called off and she mentioned that the biggest pain was losing her best friend of 17 years? I'm sure everyone clocked Hana's reaction to that.

It isn't just Won who is afraid of losing someone they care about.

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Oh yeah, I totally agree. That's why I think the premise can work and the writers actually have some good stuff here. There IS a legitimate conflict between best friends who can't figure out how to deal with their shifting feelings swaying from friend zone to boyfriend/girlfriend zone. I've seen it with my friends.

The show may not be plot driven as a lot of people want but at least it's mostly based on legit character development.

Buuuutttt... like I said, that character development can only work in any story if it's well thought - out and executed properly ( and execution depends heavily on well - planned stories) And one wrong portrayal ( like Won's secret) can really shift the dynamics and direction of the story. The show could have still managed to point out that the characters liking each other was a big deal to both, simply due to that fear/angst/ awkwardness etc. they have. Instead the show kept hinting at outside factors.

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I agree @Gemoos - for some reason, they chose to portray Won's long term feelings for Hana, and his insecurities as some sort of BIG secret, which it isn't. At least not in the original. So, unless they've got something really earth shattering with regards to Won's reluctance in letting his feelings known, the BIG secret they've been angling viewers with, is going to serve as a BIG disappointment.

It's an aspect of the show which they really didn't have to, or rather shouldn't have complicated, but now that they have, they better deliver, otherwise the show is going to have a tough time justifying itself.

The original premise had it all laid bare, so all we had to do was sit back and watch two friends get their shit together before they committed to each other. Very much like 9 end 2 outs - which I absolutely adored, and was hoping for something similar from this drama, especially as a standalone!!

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As it stands, I see no depth or maturity from either Hana or Won, sadly. I really hope they salvage this somehow, which I highly doubt possible, but still...

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I kept hoping for the same thing in School 2015, and we all know how that turned out :D

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Yeah. But hey, let's give the show a benefit of a doubt. Maybe, just a maaayyybeeee, it'll surprise us and deliver well without going makjang on us? Maybe it's savable?

I know it's wishful/ stupid thinking, but you never know. Like I said, I'll try not to get ahead and just enjoy it as it is, because there ARE some good points so far ( for example, their choice of music really does a great job of adding that nostalgic and breezy feeling of their 17 year - old friendship. It's not always the chemistry of the two leads. It's the music and overall packaging.) It's sometimes hard to look at a show objectively when there are plenty of outside forces influencing you ( the original show for comparison, the behind- the -scenes drama, people's complaints etc..) I mean, if you think about it, there are WAY more dramas that made you want to pull your hair out because of crazy plot lines, right? And to think that they've gone through THREE sets of writers by ep.6 and can probably go through more - it could have been worse. For now, I think I can let the breeze blow through me...

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I probably could have turned a blind eye had I not watched and loved the original. And for a premise which relies heavily on chemistry and depth of character, it's hard not to point out the inconsistencies.

Well, I'm sure it'll find a way to make it work, at least I hope it will - bar the makjang of course! :p

Then who knows, maybe, just maaaybeee, I might be willing to give this show a chance.

Ah I've already had my fair share of hair pulling when it comes to dramas which frustrate to no end. I' ve since learnt the art of avoiding em well, try to anyway, ha!

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Yes, he left her at the altar. Yes he's most likely a huge jerk. But damn this casting (Hyung!), I can't bring myself to hate Seo Hoo.

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I'm also probably in the minority here in that I actually get Hana's attraction to Seo-hoo. Dude's tall, good-looking and seems very refined in his tastes. He's even into classical music! I guess Hana and I have the same types in that we are attracted to bad boy types that we are not supposed to date.

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Haha, I think you're thinking of "My Queen" the Taiwanese drama or the Korean remake "Witch's Romance." Sure there were some flimsy shenanigans causing him to not call, but in the end my reaction was the same, hahaha. "No excuses!!"

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Is that the one? I'm not sure because I don't thing I watched or read the recaps for Witch's Amusment all the way to the end. But maybe I got far enough. Either way, I'm sure there are more than one KDrama men kept away from their loves by badly timed comas. But yeah, even that is not an excuse so what heart palpitation Seo-Hoo might be having doesn't get him off the hook. He's well enough to fly around the worl playing piano but not to make a phone call? Sorry, nope!

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I really hate the fact that they keep on changing writers for this show. I don't like the way Ep. 5 & 6 turned out. I much prefer the writers that penned Episodes 1-4. There wasn't a lot of exciting things that happened within each hour but at least the first four episodes had a nice, light, breezy feel to them. The new writers though are diving into makjang territory. I'm just pissed and disappointed because I really liked the original and I love the lead actors. I just hate how SBS had to ruin everything. We're getting the short end of the stick here.

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Have you ever played that game where somebody suggests a title for a story and then everyone adds one sentence when it's their turn?
Yeah. That's how this drama is going.
It's like, "let's get as many writers as we can to pen the next episode and see how it ends up."

(The actors and the audience deserve better.)

Just.my.take.

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Exactly my thoughts. T__T /sigh/

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Oops that was a reply to Z's comment above, but some reason website is not letting me reply directly to that comment...>.<

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Don't worry. I found it.

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I'm amazed how stunning HJW at every scene. She nearly 40 yet look like young woman in their middle 20th and she look way younger than me lol

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Oh, darling.

You can't have a man in your life more important to you than your husband.

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That's why all her other relationships have failed? And Won's too?
Isn't it revealing that they both do not like the other person's choice of bf and gf?

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We don't know anything about Won's past relationships but, from what we've seen of Hana, her relationships have most likely failed because she has horrible taste in men... or, at the very least, huge blinders on when it comes to her relationships. I can give her a pass on the cheating ex, because he seems to have hidden his shadiness pretty well. But she just blatantly ignored some huge warning signs with Sung-jea and Seo-hoo.

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I have no complaints. :) I am so loving this kdrama. I can't wait for the weekend!!!

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I have no complaints. :) I am so loving this kdrama. I can’t wait for the weekend!!!

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<“I realized something I didn’t know before: that I’m always thinking about you. Whenever I’m walking by myself or driving, whether it’s snowing like crazy or the sun is shining, I think of you. Even when I would hear someone talking in Korean in the heart of New York, I wanted it to be your voice. I think I’m losing my mind. Then I realized why. You were the one I wanted most in my life. The memory of the time we spent together was so passionate and profound that I couldn’t erase it no matter who I dated. I wanted to see you again. I needed to see you. That’s why I came back.”

A stalker would say the exact same thing. This isn't a romantic statement, it's a major creep alert that should send you running.

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@ alua

LOL! I sorta agree... it sounds obsessive scary. However I was thinking, might it be quite similar to the way Won is about Ha Na. That's what I meant when I said above that there's a thin line. What is healthy love and care and what is obsession.... scary thought!

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The line may be thin, but BOTH of them are on the wrong side.

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Yeah, I agree. I think Won is treading a thin line, and has been crossing over it whenever he starts acting for her, not telling her things, etc.

I really hope there has been more to his past 17 years then just suffering for Hana silently. I just don't think that's healthy.

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I'm probably in the minority here, but I actually don't mind dramas with despicable "second leads" - I like hating the "evil" guy!

I get to let off steam by berating them when they appear onscreen; I derive satisfaction from seeing their plans foiled and them receiving their comeuppance; and I like the certainty of knowing which OTP to root for (traumatised by School 2015 recently).

Seo-hoo has been deliciously despicable so far - his arrogant first words to Hana ("You've missed me, haven't you" *PUKE*); how he texts Hana and tells her to wait at work, but waits at her house instead to gauge her reaction *MANIPULATIVE CREEP*; and his steamrolling I've missed you've speech (which under normal circumstances should sound swoony, but in this situation had me going *YEAH RIGHT, YOU SLEAZE*). Even the music that accompanies his interactions with Hana sounded so sleazy!

I'm not against adding complexity to his character, but I'd like him to stay, at the core, a sleazy playboy, so I can continue to hate him safely.

Going off topic a bit, my favourite despicable characters were Ahn Do-hoon (played by Bae Soo-bin) and his mom in Secret... gosh, they took despicable to breathtaking godlike levels!

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LOL! @sungsta

At least you've given us a reason to watch!

Agree that he is an arrogant, manipulative sleaze bag and I hate his smile here although I loved it in Pinocchio. (There's no reason to smile, punk, she's shooting daggers at you.) :)

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<and them receiving their comeuppance

My issue is in that in many, many dramas they just walk away, and frequently after they have done atrocious, unforgivable and even criminal things. And I can even tell you the name of dramas where the evil second leads have happy endings, sometimes even when the leads don't!

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Weird, it's almost the opposite for me. I hate the "standardised villain punishment" thing, especially when it happens in the typical deus-ex-machina way. I like a little bit of well-done "triumph of evil" once in a while.

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Thanks for your honesty! I too, once in a while like straightforward evil characters that I can hate. Makes watching simple...and enjoyable, where black is black and white is white and we don't have to second guess the evil character's intentions. They are ALL evil!

The ones that frustrate me at times are when the second lead is nicer than the first! Then all hell breaks loose when viewers start to ship one or the other! Can't we just love the OTPs and hate the second leads? That's what watching kdramas are for right? I usually watch dramas when i like the OTPs, so when they make the second lead nice, (unless there's no love triangle, like TK2H), I end up frustrated, esp when a fan war starts.

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The visuals are nice (minus the male lead's ugly midparted hair) but at this point they're not enough for me to continue watching this drama.
I don't see any reason big enough to keep Seo Hoo from confessing to Hana. The way he treats her like a kid is frustating. She makes mistakes, it's normal, let her suffer since those are her decisions and since she's a grownup.

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Team Leader Hwang might be snotty about it but she has a point, someone who keeps putting their personal life in the their professional one is going to lose the respect of their co-workers.

It might just be the plotline doing them no favours, because of all kdrama plot devices the returning ex is one I hate most, but I preferred the old new writers to the current ones.

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I'm with this drama.Love the OTP . Fighting.

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Taiwanese version was the best, koreans kill all the adaptations.

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Oh man, now that you've mentioned it. I don't know why I was hopeful for this adaptation. Korean Boys Before Flowers, Playful Kiss, and Hana Kimi were really bad imo.

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Fated to Love you was a good adaptation in my opinion. I actually liked the Korean version more than the Taiwanese.

In my opinion, as long as they don't touch Autumn's Concerto,we're all good lol

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Aren't they just following what happened in the TW drama?YQ who was strong ,independent and intelligent end up giving her ex boyfriend a second chance up to the point that she'll marry him.So Hana and YQ are both stupid?.I hope Saturday will come soon.

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I'm normally one who can watch remakes without constantly comparing them to the original, and I'm able to enjoy a remake on its own merit (the K-movie remake of Kimi wa Petto notwithstanding, because it was just plain crap). But what I find myself doing when watching this drama is filling in the missing parts with what I know from the original.

Case in point: the ex-boyfriend. In the TW version, when he shows back up in You Qing's life, he presents himself as a changed man, and You Qing's dilemna is presented as whether or not she's willing to risk her heart again or always wonder what she might have missed by not giving him another chance. It's been a while since I watched In Time With You, so I may be remembering wrong, but when we meet the ex we see him being persistent in trying to get back with You Qing, but he's not presented as a total a**.

I think that's part of the problem here. We meet the ex and can immediately see he's a first class a**. We're not given the opportunity to sympathize with Hana emotional turmoil, because we we're immediately shown his jerk nature and it's frustrating to us to watch Hana wavering even a little. I think the writers missed it in that area.

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Also in the TW drama,they showed him as the ex or a relationship that did not work ,no specific reason.In the K drama ,it looks like that he did not show up at the wedding or engagement.With that reason K viewers were very critical with Hana who would like to find out the reason that he did not show up or still gave the impression that she still loves him. I like this drama but also hoping the Hana will be strong enough not to waver or still keeps a good head in her shoulder. I hope that what the design team said to Hana will be a wake up call.

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Yes, but in the original, I can understand You Qing's reasons why she was indecisive about him. He was persistent in wooing her, seemed really regretful, and their sizzling chemistry was still undeniable. She was still really attracted to him. Here, the guy is just bland and keeps staring at her like that will pass for sizzling chemistry.

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I'm really taken aback by that flashback where she asked if he's going to say, "I'm never going to love you" again. Did she know something even before this? What's the backstory? Seems like it's not a one-sided 'defence' on his side anymore. It's getting a little convoluted now though. Especially with that epilogue accidental kiss. I really really hope that the reason keeping them apart is as strong as the writers have made it out to be.

And seriously that So Eun. I've been pretty patient with her blatant flirting and insiduous remarks, but this ramming her head into Hana's private businesss has crossed the line. You don't fucking mess up people's lives just out of 'curisoity'. That's downright low. I really want to sock her in the face now. UGH. The sole highlight was So Eun getting all yelled at by Won. Too bad he decided to be nice to her again. >_<

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I believe that line was based off an earlier confession/rejection (I don't even know what to call that) when they meet each other in front of their homes. I forget if it happened twice, because I think one of the scenes, he said it when it was pouring. Another scene was when she tried to give him a gift.

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I really dont like that mousey-looking pianist ex-boyfriend. Dont see what Hana see in him at all. Give me Won anytime man.

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Mousy ? haha, now that I've thought about it, I can't unsee it,because unfortunately I'm now seeing the similarity. careful hun people on this thread LOVE hyung, you might get stabbed ?

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This show is becoming a train wreck. I feel so bad for Ha Ji Won & Jin Wook. What a waste of talent.

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I'm loving the show don't know why everyone else isn't, I get the won thing but at this point I just think of it as the writers fault, I don't even think they have decided what the issue is yet.
And why change writers this often,a simple copy paste will do,hire me I'll show you how to paste this remake.
Was Hyung always this big,I always thought he was small framed.
Hana ship me that black and white outfit especially the skirt.

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Haha, I agree but I did not watch the original. I think the main characters have fantastic chemistry and I can watch them interact all day. The secondary cast mates however... just seem like bad plugins for plot/story.

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Won probably has Mother issues, he is afraid of Hana leaving him, so he might as well have her as a friend - and not lover.
He made this choice, so he can't blame Hana for not noticing his feelings or not loving him as the same.

He also has to let her make her choices. It is her life after all, and Hana is an adult and he is a friend - Understand that he can give advices but not force Hana to decide things and drag her around

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Oh I will hate this show if they make Hyung into a douche..urgh... (Funny how he killed people in Pinoccchio but we still love him but not in this drama where he is just an annoying second lead who probably has health issues)

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Well, even if he does have an illness (I highly doubt it), his character is still a douche here. The way he takes her feelings for granted, from showing up suddenly and expecting her to STILL jump into his arms, to being so lackadasical about being late - almost as though it was a deliberate test of love.

BUT I really loved his performance in Pinocchio, so I can step back and view this as a 'pity he's given a shitty character' instead of hating hyung. Hehe.

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Am I the only one who noticed how they transition from the past back to the present?? There used to be a transition added like how they transit from the present back to the past, and vice versa. But they don't do this when they are going back to the present from the past anymore. And it got me confused like for example, the part where Won gave the punching bag to Hana, and challenged her, all of a sudden, we are back to the present and Hana lost the bet. It took me awhile to return back to the present since I thought that scene was situated in the past.

It didn't used to happen until episode 5 and wonder if the change in writers could have affected the editing of the show...

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Yeah, the transitions sorta went missing. But it's back in ep 7 for some parts.

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Won & Hana both accepted they couldn't get close to each sides' partners. I thinks their over-friendship less than lover did affect their relationship with their past partners. I thinks Seo hoo's right at this point that Won's always in the middle of his relationship with Hana. Same to So Eun, though Hana did'nt avoid So eun, she's not happy w/her accompany & Won didn't date the women Hana's dislike.

Now, no matter what the secret each person's hiding, Won was already shaken from the arrival of Seo hoo & preferred to express his feeling.

*I wanted to know how he'd do as he said to Seo hoo he'd block him from Hana with his full ability, but Seo hoo planned ahead to have Hana to work for him. I wanted Won to be smart & be really quick. He's always out of control & use his fist everytime relating to Hana. (High school fight, his punch to her cheating boyfriend, his grab to Seo hoo's shoulder & collar).
Hope Won will not behave passively the same with Da Ren who'
s always stay still & let it flow. Won'
s more passive & aggressive which made him more interesting.

*Will he tell his secret(his feeling) to Hana & how? Because he kept it 17 yrs already & it's hard to confess especially to friend. Hope he does not send wrong message.

*With the 2nd leads intercede, Won's still stable to Hana, I do hope Hana won't easily waver & blind again in love the same with TW You Qing. (Viewers will get mad again seeing ep. 5). You Qing even started to be a little bit clever on her 2nd date with Ding Li Wei. She couldn't stand his dominance & started boring. Their relationship became deteriorated.

But all of these bad personalities already showed out from Seo hoo when he came. How Hana can still linger to him, except there's really something good of him which I can see only his romantic & frank personalities because he's a pianist?

I do hope Hana & Seo hoo get close because of work only. He can be one of her familiar the same that Won treated So Eun. She should learn from the past lesson & gradually consider him cleverly. I ydon't think the nature of people will change. If he's a jerk & player, he will be the same.

Since this drama became stand alone & different though the major plot still based on TW story, I hope the changes are come out with the plot wise. Don't make the story too draggy or mysterious.

Till ep.6, I still enjoyed the drama even there's the change of writers team again. Wish the actresses, actors, PD, production team, & new writers to overcome all the burdens soon with cheerful smile & healthy.

I don't mind the rating if I still enjoys & looks forward for the drama. The rating concern should be the problem of the channel itself. It's impossible to force people nowadays to sit still & to cling in front of TV, while there's online technology to watch via mobile & internet.

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already like seo hoo more than the real lead bc i hate guys who get upset just bc the main girl talks to another guy.

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buuuuuuttt seo hoo is also kind of a major piece of sh*t

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I think this episode exemplifies why I just can't get into this remake. They've taken Maggie/So-eun who was cute and innocent and turned her into the typical malicious female second lead.

Ding Li Wei/Seo-hoo though was always a controlling, manipulative, jealous, asshat who emitted some kind of pheromone that caused You Qing/Hana's brain to turn off when he's around. Ding Li Wei though at least had back and half sleeve tattoo/tattoo's that if my skin weren't so sensitive I'd copy in a heartbeat.

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I'm a sucker for these kind of relationships. Long term friendship between girl and a boy. (Reply 1997, a man from the star; the relationship between second male lead and female lead, I give you my first love, operation proposal,ect) hahaha almost in all of them the guy has some terrible reason for not letting the girl get close to him, so for this drama I really wish/hope Won has a very valid reason for doing what he does and acting the way he does. Even though it's only 6 episodes and we don't know all his reasons, it does feel like he's hesitant

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I'm a sucker for these kind of relationships. Long term friendship between girl and a boy. (Reply 1997, a man from the star; the relationship between second male lead and female lead, I give you my first love, operation proposal,ect) hahaha almost in all of them the guy has some terrible reason for not letting the girl get close to him. For this drama I really wish/hope Won has a very valid reason for doing what he does and acting the way he does. Even though it's only 6 episodes and we don't know all his reasons, it does feel like he's hesitant to claim her for his own and at the same time won't let go of her.
I didn't think much of it when she told him that it's his fault that she's never had a successful relationship and that he cursed her saying that he can't love her, when in reality I think she couldn't have a successful relationship because he loved her too much. With the ex in the picture we can see now the darker/very possessive side of Won.
It's made me think about how the ex boyfriend told Won that it's his fault that Hana and him ended the way they did. Obviously there is some beef between the two, it would be a surprise if there wasn't, Hana and Won have a too close of a relationship for a significant other to ever be comfortable with it. That in mind and the fact that Won saw the ex boyfriend supposedly cheating on Hana makes me think that the reason Hana was diched at the alter had something to do with Won. He probably black mailed him or something like that to not show up. When the ex said its Wons fault, he didn't deny it he just said that the ex should not have hurt Hana in the first place, cheat on her.
The drama/movies I mentioned at the beginning I really liked the guys because they were foolishly in one sided love and the girls were too slow to realize it. I usually didn't like the girls for their blockheadness.lol but with this drama I don't know how I feel about Won yet. I can't say I like him too much as of right now. I kind of feel like he's a bit selfish in his love for Hana. In him always being there I'm sure it has a negative affect on her love life.

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didn't see the TW version, but since so many people loved it, i thought the korean version would be great.
i love the main actress, since secret garden, so i really wanted to love this show....BUT, the it's sooooo boring!! For most episodes, the only stuff that hana has been doing, is being stuck in pointless meetings at the office; and as for won, he's always running accross town to meet hana.... Anyone who visited korea, knows how far the aiport is from seoul. So it always cracks me up, to see won suddenly appearing in a sec, whenever the devil ex is around hana. The plot is super slow, and i still can't understand why won can't tell hanna that he has been loving for+ 20 years... so frustrating.... No sure i will watch the show til the end.

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i'm curious whether they'll make Seo Hoo exactly done the same thing like Ding Li Wei. Seems like there's more in Seo Hoo just a cheater. Hope they don't make the character arc bad for him :/
Well although Hana and Won's relationship is adorable, it's a little but frustrating too. God, 17 years passed and they still don't realize it.... do they really need to drag another people so that they can realize their own feelings? Either they realize and take the courage to bring the relationship to next stage or be clear and seriously start relationship with another people without involving each other. Relationship should be a matter between 2 people, not 3 people. While in a relationship, Won shouldn't interfere, vice versa.

It's quite interesting drama to watch, though.

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Thank you for recap !
Do you know the title of the song Ha Na and Won are singing at the restaurant, after watching a movie ?

thanks a lot!! :)

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Daebak !!!!!!!!!
Really2. Love this drama.,........
^_^

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