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Yong-pal extension (finally) confirmed, to end with Episode 18

Well, fiiiiiiinally! It sure took SBS freaking forever to decide what to do with its medical-thriller-romance drama Yong-pal, and now it’s confirmed that it will extend by two episodes (not the rumored four). That means it will wrap up with Episode 18, which’ll air on Thursday, October 1.

The extension rumors for this drama have certainly been all over the place, and we were waiting for an official confirmation to write about it, not expecting it would take this long. Extension talks started very early into the drama’s run, when each new episode was topping the previous one in ratings, and it broke the 20% ratings barrier (unheard of these days with a miniseries!) within three weeks. Then the plot took a sharp left turn (Episode 9 wut?) and viewers were pretty vocal about it; even media headlines made much of how the plot had gone to ruin overnight.

After that extension talks died down and we heard nothing for a while. Ratings remained high but had leveled off (the most recent episode drew a 19.1%). Then this week, news came out that the show wouldn’t extend at all… and of course, the next day they re-confirmed with this latest—and hopefully final—decision.

I don’t think Yong-pal needs an extension, but I don’t really mind so much, I guess. Two is better than four, and Yong-pal is one of those addictive shows for me where if I dial down my brain (or need for logic) by about 20 percent, I enjoy every episode thoroughly (…except for Episode 9, that was a low point). The plot moves fast enough that if I don’t purposely slow down to examine every plot hole, I’m totally entertained. Mostly, Joo-won makes my day, and he should always be on the verge of grave danger and eternal happiness. Funny how that line is so razor-thin, eh?

This means that Yong-pal’s follow-up drama, mystery-crime-suspense thriller Village: Secret of Achiara, will postpone its premiere by a week, airing its first episode on Wednesday, October 7.

Via SBS

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Thanks JB, and I agree with you on all counts. :)

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Hehehe! You shouldn't turn off your brain any percentage when watching Yong Pal... au contraire, you turn it on full cylinders and dial it UP a percentage! Your analytic and logical brain are not the only parts you need to watch a drama... your imaginative, creative and inventive mental fluids should also be flowing! Methinks.

This show doesn't spoonfeed its audience. It expects you to make sense of what is going on before it comes up with explanations. It depends on the individual of course, but I don't think it is that inconsiderate for a show to consider that it has a smart enough audience who will catch on to what is going on, without having to explain every minute detail. The audience should be flattered the show thinks you can be that quick on the uptake! Or is it about demographics???

Anyway...
if you turn off your brain and watch Yong Pal, you can come on here and read recaps and get explanations for things you missed, but you would also be doing yourself a great disservice.

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Na wa oh!!?

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lmao !!1 @ na wa oh, na real wa

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Na wahala! Lol.

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@ affie (also, SS and vjy etc)

Oh wow, I dare say my intelligence dialed up after reading all the stuff you posted.

All your thought processes are top class. My YongPal experience has been greatly enhanced through this recap threads. Thanks to you all and dramabeans.

To me, artistic license is pretty much intelligence in its own way. How does one describe an abstract art piece? Does creativity defy logic? Are emotions precise science? Can we measure love?

- Did yongpal promise us a textbook medical show?
- Did yongpal suggest that it's gonna stick to conventional stuff?
- Did yongpal expect to get 20 percent rating before it's airing?

The answer to the above is "no". So to viewers who are upset at yongpal, please dont be coz yongpal team didn't promise a "logical", "straightforward" and "no kisses until last episode" show. And I bet yongpal crew and actors are probably more surprised with the rating than all of us.

- Did yongpal promise an action-packed romance thriller?
- Did yongpal suggest explicitly that the heroine is in coma?
- Did yongpal deliver a nighttime errand doctor who treats outlawed patients to help his ailing sister?

Yes, yes, yes. As far as I know yongpal has been delivering the goods week after week. And I am thoroughly satisfied.

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@ mermerised
Sorry I need to add @mersmerized too. It has been very engaging and entertaining to read and discuss yongpal with you and the rest. Loved your sci-fi intuition and your imaginative flair.

Also sera, Athena, Lilith, korini and many many more...Enjoying all your comments ..

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@Shuerei. Oh my! Thanks so much for the compliments. I've also acquired great enlightenment from your comments from thread to thread. :) May we be forgiven for not dialling down our brains to watch
Yong Pal. Lol! And may dramabeans live long and bring us all together for the love of kdrama!

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Dear @ affie

Your fiancé is blessed. He's getting a smart, perceptive, loving, insightful and understanding wife. A million congrats to both of you.

“Star-crossed lovers always seem to find one another and fall in love; The kind of love nobody dreams of.”

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@Shuerei. Aww...Thx so much :). U are too kind.

Speaking of which... Omo! I just watched the preview for this week's EPs... Looks like Yeo Jin become an avengeress! Omg. What's uri Yong Pal going to do!!! Otteohke! Aigoo! How are audiences going to take this? Lol.

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Nah I'm with the dramabean homegirls. I was about to tank Yong Pali after episodes 9 and 10. Heck, I wasn't even really thrilled how the last two episodes ended. Giving them a 2 episode extention is for the writers to correct that s-it the wrote from ep.9 onward. Hopefully the last 6 will get the ratings up and the viwers jazzed about this series again.

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@shorebunny. I'm glad you say you were 'about to tank Yong Pali' , so
Im guessing you didn't yet. I agree with Javabeans (whom u referred to as dramabeans, or perhaps you mean the entire site) I just don't agree with the part about dialling down your brain to watch it. I happen to think you require a lot of brain activity to watch it. YP doesn't make lazy, no-questions-asked kdrama watching which is precisely why people got so mad at the slower eps.

As for the writers fixing their 'sh-t' and making ratings go up and more viewers 'jizzed' about the show... Yong Pal is already at the top, viewers are already 'jizzed' about the show...but by all means, let subsequent eps get more ratings and viewership cos this show has nowhere else to go but up.

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Oh, you used 'jazzed'... so 'jazzed' it is... mianhae.

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now now @Alfie i sure am getting used to your brand of commenting, very very sensical if i may say! love it and continue doing so!
+10,000,000 likes!

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To be frank, I didn't expect to like yongpal due to a few reasons:
- so much hype - too beautiful posters *grin*
- didn't really watch joo won in many shows so he wasn't my fav actor (Gaksital is good but wars and too many ppl dying are rather depressing)
- sounded a bit like Healer which I adored but I was afraid to see a duplicate persona

At the start of the series, I like the sleek production but I wasn't really invested as scenes on ailing family members, desperate situations and gangsterism are rather common in KDramas

But as the series goes on, I was hooked onto something. It's the character of yongpal which I rarely seen or come across in other kdrama characters:
- Against all odds, he only focused on the right things, saving people and preserving lives
- In dealing with enemies, he chose the higher road and he even saved them
- He was tired and defeated many times but he never once blame others
- He was not accepted and even misunderstood by family (dad), friends and colleagues, but he never resort to vengeance or retaliation
- He was calm, patient, sensible and wise even when the world was about to collapse around him
- He was self sacrificing even though he has nothing to gain
- He kept evil thoughts away and only cherished the good values and memories
- He used his cunning to make things better rather than to acquire something for himself
- He kept no wrongs and as a result, he carried no bitterness or anger towards others

Too good to be true? Perhaps. But kindness and forgiveness never fails. Perhaps these are the qualities that are drawing in the viewers each week.

To enjoy the show, like Javabeans said, dial down the logic and Affie encouraged us to dial up the intelligence, and now let's tune in to our inner selves.

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@Shuerei. Totally. I'm usually the type to go against over-hype and baseless popularity when it comes to kdramas. I didn't go into Yong Pal expecting to like it. I really expected to not like it and perhaps watch it as 'filler' for some of the spare time I have now. I havent been loving a lot of stuff lately. Then again... I also havent been watching a lot lately... Last show i did was High Society which was so-so.

But everything you just mentioned about YP is entirely true and made me LOVE it!

I even love Man Shik. This show has a very good cast.

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@nonski. Lol. Thx, eh. Frankly I wish someone would do a survey of all those people hate-watching this show cos

1. They are still contributing to the success of the show.

Annnnnd

2. I just really freaking want to know, lol.

Totally off-topic, I showed it to my fiancé and he's hooked...and this is a person who often teases me for liking kdramas!

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Is Yong-Pal worth watching? I've only been able to watch Twenty Again this cycle and Oh My Ghostess last cycle of dramas because nothing else seemed to catch my eye as really good. It seems like it's been a really, really long time since I had dramas that I wanted to watch throughout the week. Now I barely find one show to be good.

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I wondered the same. Seems there is a variety of opinion and early on I read comments which compared it to Doctor Stranger - I didn't watch because it seemed a bit of a mess save the actors' performances.

Ratings are not always on par considering some tune in to watch their favorite actors...which I have certainly been known to do as well.

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I'd recommend watching Yong Pal if any of the following 7 reasons apply to you;

1. U like good acting. I know people are divided on it, but I personally think the casting is brilliant. I'm not talking Academy Awards or anything... but trust me, all the actors in this show are believable in their roles.

2. U are imaginative, can connect the dots and will be able to adequately suspend belief for some scenes, lol! For example, surgery scenes.

3. U are already a fan of any one of the ensemble cast and would watch any of them eat a bowl of rice, lol.

4. U are already a fan of the genre and enjoy thrills and spills.

5. U like people falling in love quickly. Teeheehee!

6. U like unpredictable shows.

annnnnnd...

7. U are a practical person, who doesn't mind certain actions being taken because they are practical at that very moment and will be subsequently become logical as the story progresses, and also, by some stroke of weird luck, you can relate to some of the subject-matter of the show!

If all these apply to you, you will love this show. If not, you could still have a healthy dose of curiosity, try one episode and decide for yourself. :)

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+1,000!

Agree with @Affie! Watch if you believe yourself to be an intelligent audience who has tolerance for suspense. If you are intelligent, like suspense, but cannot take waiting week on week for the suspense to be lifted only to be slapped with another, wait for all 18 episodes to be done then binge watch. Consider thyself forewarned... ;)

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@mesmerised. +100,000 back at ya ;)

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Sorry affie, mermerised

I supposed to post 1.1.4.1. i. in this thread

Just shared above that yongpal is unique because of his character. There is something that resonates in people to make them watch week after week. As @SS, vgy, korini and others also noted, the ratings meant something. People are watching. But why...

Remember when so many people loves misaeng coz working adults can relate to the characters?
I think people are watching yongpal for the same reason. Perhaps at some point in their lives:
- they need something desperately or
- they have been misunderstood or bullied or
- they became victims to false witnesses or
- they were sidelined by gossips or
- they were threatened by greedy people or
- they lost loved ones despite trying so so hard

There's something very human and very ordinary about yongpal. The hardships could happen to anyone but it's how yongpal approaches each day with hope and clear conscience that's both touching and heartfelt. How he kept himself untainted by the wrongdoings of others. And how patience, kindness, forgiveness, self sacrifice can overcome lots of pain in this world. Surely those are the things worth watching week after week.

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Yes it is. Just like JB said the episode 9 took a "sharp left turn". But it goes back to the right path (for me) from ep 10-12, ep 13 will air this week.

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@PistachioSkies and Waiting

The show is much as JB mentions. Watchable if you don't mind switching off your analytical mind ..."Yong-pal is one of those addictive shows for me where if I dial down my brain (or need for logic) by about 20 percent, I enjoy every episode thoroughly (…except for Episode 9, that was a low point)." There are some nice points of action, some comedy (inadvertent sometimes), some suspense, on/off good pace, lots of 'bloody' surgeries and the basic overall story about gaining/re-gaining agency in one's life. Not everyone will find most parts convincing, so that's where one has to dial down the brain. I suppose we can just watch it lightly. :)

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Thanks for your thoughts, everyone! I'll add it to my Chuseok marathon list. :)

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I would say skip it. It starts out strong, and then goes off the rails at episode 7 - this is the sharp left - episode 9 just continued on this nonsensical path. I'm still watching (mostly bc of a time investment and I like Joo Won dramas), but I don't think I can conscientiously recommend it.

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Oh @Susan w all the sundaes, pastries and margaritas, I say this in all friendliness ???:
I think your standards might be too high. And that in this climate when few shows are watchable, this one is actually good by comparison. I don't think it'll make it into a list of the 20 Best KDs ever made, but to me, it's still one of the better shows this year.

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@ KDaddict?JCW

"And that in this climate when few shows are watchable, this one is actually good by comparison. I don’t think it’ll make it into a list of the 20 Best KDs ever made, but to me, it’s still one of the better shows this year."

A very true statement! In a good year, this show wouldn't probably garner much attention. But this year.....

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Dear @Susan of the beer and ramen,
Problem is, we haven't had a good year in a long while now. ?

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@Susan ..You're right..I stopped exactly at ep 6,the fact that they took out two of the more intriguing characters and bring the romantic equations so soon into the scenario..just made it too much for me.I loved upto ep 6,especially the pace,but it's just not working anymore.The goof ups are too strong to ignore.And I protest that we dint have good dramas so far lol,yeah maybe not a good drama year,but there have been so many good dramas through out the years,that I won't just recommend yongpal..when there are so many better ones out in the plate.Yeah,this year has not been a promising one for drama zone,but that does not mean yongpal is the best of the lot.I'd still wait for six flying dragons, and the innkeepers,and the village also.

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i must say, Twenty Again and Yong Pal are both addictive shows at this moment. :D

It based on your preference. Yong Pal is not so melo, so it will not be boring especially for those who dont love melodrama. it has funny and action scenes, romance and revenge plot. i wudnt dare to compare it with Dr Stranger, this one is surely worth to watch. It is also not typical medical drama :P

As regard to twenty again, I am now suffering with Prof ChaHyunSuk disease. i can repeat each episode many times while waiting for next episode.

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I dropped it at episode 7 even though I liked some of the secondary characters. But the plot and the endless sleeping princess shots bored me beyond the telling of it. But then I have dropped almost everything lately except Twenty Again, which I think is adorable.

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Well the rating shows how interesting this drama is.... I'm sure you won't regret it...wanna try!!!!

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Same! After OMG and Twenty Again, I've resorted to watching old shows.

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Usually when people ask if a drama is worth watching on a drama thread(not Open Thread), either it's an invite to recommend any other drama except the one featured or open a discussion on how good other dramas are in comparison.

If this is a genuine question, I apologize for qualifying it with my preface. I will recommend that you take everything people say here with a pinch of salt. Maybe a teaspoon works better :D

Go and watch 2 episodes for yourself and decide. Usually if a drama doesn't get me by 1st episode, I am more than 50% likely to drop it. If you don't like it, you only waste 2 hours of your time. Will that be better than taking very subjective advice here and miss some fun & entertainment? I leave that to you.

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Honestly i think it takes more than 2 episodes to decide effectively, I'd say 4, maybe 6 at the most. I apply this to most TV shows I watch, not just kdramas.

If I really hate what I have seen after 2 episodes though, I usually drop it unless I read overwhelmingly positive reviews about an uptick in quality. Sometimes though, a viewer just doesn't connect with a drama no matter how good it is. This has been my experience with many popular dramas over the years.

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@SS

Amen, sister! Finally, someone with the appropriate perspective.

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thank you for that very informative and objective advice SS chingu!

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It's watchable for most parts and for Joo Won's performance.
Anyway most dramas nowadays only care about star's power and less on the quality. Less dramas care about plot so you can turn off your brain while enjoying this drama.

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@PistachioSkies

I think you should at least try watching the first episode and see for yourself. The fact that it has consistently very high ratings in Korea (as well as high ratings online and reruns) should count for something. Some of the people commenting here have not even watched any episode and some of those telling you not to watch, are still watching and commenting.

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I stopped watching after episode 3. I loved the first two episodes, then episode 3 showed signs of a mess starting with sloppy screenwriting and directing - so I stopped, and have been checking back here to skim the recaps and have not been compelled to start back again.

I can suspend logic etc. but lately, Kdrama screenwriters have just gotten so lazy and have been churning out crap. I just don't support that kind of laziness. Yongpal had a good idea but then the writers just plugged in one stupid trope after another. Romance? What? from where? Just too sloppy for me. Directing all over the place too.

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That is the main problem with it, and I fear the extension will just add to that.

The basic plot is actually pretty good - the devil is in the details, and you often find yourself wondering "who the hell would ever actually do/say that?". I like it well enough that I just bang my head on the keyboard and move on to the next scene.

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Actually depending on what oes on this next episode it will determine for me whther to keep watching but I am fluent in Japanese so I'm watching jdramas 37.5 degree tears and a crime drama Saikyo no futari. Twenty Again I was going to ditch until these last 2 episodes. It's starting to turn around.

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I think it's worth watching if you gotta watch something aside from Twenty Again. I am not addicted to the drama but it's better than nothing. I have a good tolerance for suspension of disbelief but this drama is really testing it right now.

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It is both good and bad. Probably one of the better shows running right now, but it also has a lot of facepalm moments and plot holes.

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Guess this means even more less sleep for Joo Won, but I suppose it also gives Moonie's new drama a bit more time to film as well. It's like they opted for middle ground for the extension, not too much but still a bit. I hope we get to see more of KTH being badass, because I'd hate to have filler episodes of her relying too much on Joo Won.

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JW is carrying the weight of drama for first half, now it is turn for Sleeping Beuuty to get into action

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I'm one who is happy Yongpal gets an extension even by 2 eps because that means more time for filming Moonie's new drama.
They only have few weeks before premiere, time is not on their side, but with this extension at least more time to filming and more episodes in the can before premiere.

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I'm curious as to how kdramas get funded. I read that actresses makes like $40k per episode.... How does that even make sense?

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Sponsors! That's why there are things like PPL

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Well, that's minced meat compared to what some actresses in Hollywood make. Kim Tae Hee is considered a 'top star' so she makes $40000 per episode but the 'top star' of Hollywood shows.......*whistles*

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Yep, $40k for a star is cheap!!

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A lot of the stars in Korea make more from product endorsements than they do from the shows.

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@Ohhlie,

How much they are willing to pay a star depends on ratings of their previous drama, box-office receipts of their latest movies, their popularity as measured by the former and also response from netizens and the public, plus their image. That's the star's bankability.

A show featuring top stars get sold for big bucks to large and lucrative overseas markets, like China and Japan, and others.

If you think that $40K per ep is a lot, how about Lee Young Ae and Jeon Ji Hyun getting $85K, or Choi Ji Woo and Song Hye Kyo getting $60K or so? These are the biggest and brightest stars among K actresses. You can find big investors more easily when you have big names lined up for your project, more high value PPLs, more pre-production sales, etc.

That's why as fans, we want our fav star's drama to get fantastic ratings, cos that has a real impact on their pocket-books.

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KDaddict

You are right. Rating matters.
And I think KTH is getting less than USD40,000 per episode. I feel sorry for her that she is not getting top rated pay and yet getting so much criticsms...
But I guess having Rain with her is a comfort and her CFs will make up for it.

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The top paid actors on Hollywood TV shows would get anywhere from $1 million to $1.5 million.

Charlie Sheen (Charlie Sheen!!!) got $2 million per ep for that crappy show "Two and Half Men."

Kelsey Grammer got paid $1.6 million per ep for "Frasier" and that was for 2002-04.

Tim Allen got $1.25 million per ep for "Home Improvement" and that was "way back" in 1998.

The "Friends" cast, Helen Hunt ("Mad About You") and Kaley Cuoco are the actresses who have gotten a million per ep.

Other actresses like Mariska Hargitay have gotten $500k per ep (which is pretty good for a larger, ensemble cast show).

Of course, the US market is a good bit larger than the South Korean market and the rights of popular US shows are sold around the world ("Prison Break" was more popular in Korea than the US).

Big reason why so many British and Aussie actors come to Hollywood and why Korean entertainers try to expand to the Japan and now China markets.

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You forget why they get these salaries. First of all it's about ratings. HIghly rated tv series charge MASSIVE ADVERTISING DOLLARS for folks to get their business//products to the highest amount of viewers watching the show. The higher the advertising $$, the more the actors on the show can ask the networks for more $ per episode when contract negotiations come up.

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Surely it's nothing compared to their US counterparts, but probably it's the average in Asia.. In my country actors also get paid around $40k-50k per ep per drama and it has much more eps than your usual kdrama.

The money comes the most from advertising, PPL, and of course sponsors. Of course the network also give the funding, but not enough to cover entire production. Higher ratings means higher chance to get more ads and ads=revenue.

During Hyde Jekyll Me days, Hyun Bin is said to be paid 70% of the production money, so you can imagine how much production money goes to the stars.
Also, it doesn't mean the stars get the fat paycheck fully. Because the paycheck also for their entourage (manager, stylists, make-up artist, etc) and the agency.

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Yes its worth watching it!!!! Now im so mad that i watched before all the episode is done cause i am sooooo hooked I can't wait for the next episodes.

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I love Joo-won's character in this drama, but for me it fizzled. Haven't even finished ep 9.

It's partially because I'm too busy though...

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This drama is so freaking addicting for me.

Even though, the plot took a sharp left turn at ep 9, I personally think that was what they meant by "unique melodrama"?

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Finally! I'm torn with this news though. Yay because more Joowon on my screen and I need to see more of him especially since he will soon be going to the army. Nay because more lack of sleep for bb. Poor guy. And another nay because the extension may give more room for missteps. It is back on track now so please please...

I agree with everything that JB said about Yongpal. It is so addicting. I realized that what I like about the show is how viewers don't know what will happen next. Yes, we can guess but somehow the show does something so unexpected. At the end of every episode I ask, "What now? What will happen?" I find it to be more fun and engaging than the shows I've watched wherein I can pretty much predict what will happen next and that is exactly what's given in the end.

I look forward to what will happen next week.

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I watched last week's episodes and almost dropped this drama. They were very much low points and threw the trajectory of the show off so much that I almost didn't want to bother watching how they'll try to get everyone back on track. I debated spending two hours watching and finally decided today to catch up and the show has gotten better. Don't think it needs the 2 episode extension but let's see what they'll do with it.

I never thought I would be one to ask a drama to give us less couple scenes and more action/melo, but last week was more than enough lovey-dovey to last me till the end of the run LOL poor Joowon I hope he gets a lot of rest after this because he looks so tired ):

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Haha I stopped watching after ep 8, glad I didn't tune into ep 9. Perhaps I will watch the last episode after everything ended.

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"...on the verge of grave danger and eternal happiness..." Oh, yeah. Agree with everything you said. Mixed feelings about the extension, dial down the brain by 20% to overlook fairly minor mishaps, and watching Joo Won. If I like the characters I'll forgive just about anything.

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If you are so analytical, and always want logic in every scene, i will say, Yong Pal is not for you. :)

High rating doesn't mean this drama is perfect. It has flaws here and there. Nevertheless, I can tolerate the moderate sum of illogical , provided that the plot is worth to watch.

I am glad it will not be extended to 24 episodes, 18 episodes is OK and acceptable :)

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"If you are so analytical, and always want logic in every scene, i will say, Yong Pal is not for you. :) "

I laughed as your comment brought this passage to mind:

"Alice laughed: "There's no use trying," she said; "one can't believe impossible things."

"I daresay you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was younger, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."

-- Alice in Wonderland.

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haha. i must read Alice in Wonderland again

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I daresay, Alice in Wonderland is much, much more of a stretch to believe in... if anyone can believe Alice in Wonderland, Yong Pal should be a cinch. They shouldn't even be compared :)

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You're right. Alice in Wonderland is a literary masterpiece.

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"if anyone can believe Alice in Wonderland, Yong Pal should be a cinch."

@Affie, I love to read your comments, but this is a stretch don't you think? While both are fiction, Alice in Wonderland is fantasy genre and YongPal is not, so the story has to make sense within the confines of real world. Yongpal can't suddenly jump down rabbit holes now, can he?

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@KDramaNewbie. Yes, of course... Lol. I agree with you completely. It would be a stretch to compare a fantasy with a real life story. That's why I said they should not be compared on that level.

Alice in Wonderland is a classical literary masterpiece. No doubt, Yong Pal is a small-screen medical action revenge thriller. So i m talking about suspension of belief here... I'm not talking about Yong Pal dropping into rabbitholes here... I'm saying if Alice in Wonderland could take your mind on such a whirlwind of a journey... It shouldn't be hard for anyone to let Yong Pal with its inexplicables to do same. Its just a drama.

But I do get it if it's not measuring up to your kdrama palate. Cheers.

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I'm very busy but tuned in to Yong Pal when it started airing. Was excited with ep 1 - 6 then 7-8 were a bit meh. I wondered if I should try continuing so I asked mom how's episode 9 and she said it was sooooo boring but episode 10 was great.

For the first time in my history of watching dramas, I skipped an episode. Opted to read the recap here (thanks~ <3) and just jumped into ep 10. Thus I spared myself the disappointment and wasted time and I'm back to enjoying the show. :D So to those who are wondering, you too can skip ep 9. lol

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I don't think people should skip ep. 9. If you are a kdrama fan, that wants to see a bit of heterogeneity and diversity in the largely homogeneous kdrama landscape, please don't skip ep. 9.

It also has a lot of heart and tense moments at the end.

I even won't even go as far as to call it slow, it was just a laid-back episode... characters were trying to take stock of where they were at, and what the next step should be. By the end, there was a catalyst that propelled the characters to take necessary action.

I also think its a bit strange to say the plot switched or was turned upside down as though it's a bad thing in stories... plot switches and twists lend unpredictability and suspense to a plot. I understand that it can leave one dissatisfied... but I believe that would be justified only if the story doesn't return to its original trajectory.

By the end of 9, YP did. So I wouldn't recommend skipping it...

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I did a lot of FF'ing on ep9. It was very much a "meh" episode.

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The plot of this drama is basically started with action scenes in which Yong Pal did all the not-so-logical surgeries but still enjoyable to watch because of Joo Won. He carried the weight of drama for almost first half of drama.

Then, the romance developed, and romance story actually covered mostly in two episodes, which for many of us was quite confusing and it happened so fast.

After the romance episodes, now the revenge is started. The heroine who had been sleeping in earlier episodes drama, and stayed in bed/ hiding after woke up for several episodes, now will get into action. In a meantime, our Yong Pal will not stay quiet, there will be also scenes when he will do the surgery.

i also wish the second leads character will be developed nicely. i want to see how villain actually our heroine's brother and his history, as well as second female lead.

One thing I found myself enjoy this drama because all leads are smart in their own way. No one plays victim all the time. Even for heroine, who is bedridden in earlier episodes, also has a smart brain even she cannot moving anywhere. i am glad they made her character is smart and not relying solely on our hero.

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I am currently watching Yong Pal. And although i find it interesting. I don't think it's worth the clamour.

I think the reason why it's no 1 in korea is because there's not much competition. And of course because of Kim Tae Hee..

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online rating also high. not much competition, yes im agreed to that. will see when She Was Pretty this week, will it gives competition to Yong Pal.

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You should read @Vgy7*uhb at number 13.1.1 in Yong Pal recap for ep 12. She put up a very strong case with comparison and analysis of 3 dramas which aired at the same time earlier this year - Healer, Hyde, Jekyll and Me and Kill Me, Heal Me. Their numbers were 8.6%, 5.5% and 10.1% respectively. Total 24.2%

Now compare this with Wed/Thurs dramas SWWTN 7.4%, Assembly 5.3% (avg of ep 1 - 18)and Yong Pal at 17.3%(avg of ep 1 -12). Total 30%. You can see that there's a difference of 5.8% more viewers in current group and it's all due to Yong Pal.

A similar pattern can be seen from the preceding batch - Warm & Cozy(7.4%), Masked Prosecutor (5.74%) and Mask(10.8%). Total 23.94%

(average numbers taken from wikipedia AGB nationwide)

Your statement only holds true if Yong Pal is 17.3% and the 2 competitors share the remaining 6.7%(take 24% - 17.3%) at 3.4% each. Then you can justify and say that Yong Pal took the lion share because the other 2 are dismal.

About the draw of the leads, I don't think KTH nor JW has the star power or fanbase like Jeon Ji Hyun and Kim Soo Hyun.

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I am in minority, coz for me Kim So Hyun is not someone that i will attract to watch. As I said, i am in minority that had not completed My Love from Another Star, most probably because of Kim So Hyun. In Producer, factor from all casts are quite strong so i just watched it. As for Jeon Ji hyun, she is A-rated actress in Korea, nevertheless i never saw her in anything probably because she had done many movies and My Love from Another Star was her comeback. im not watching kmovies so much, thats why i didnt know about her.

KTH's name alone is quite big in Korea,not as one of the great actress, but more on star and celebrity. Joo Won is indeed a great actor, even his name is not top as Kim So Hyun. As what you stated on the comparison above, the different percentage in viewers its due to Yong Pal. I will say, the uniqueness of this drama, its storyline maybe not that extraordinary, but still not cliche, and casts power contribute to the high rating.

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i don't know why you have to present and compare the ratings. the logic is simple. compared to other dramas yong pal is better so a lot of people watched it.

your argument may be true but "word of mouth" is enough just to make a drama a hit/flop. so i'm guessing the first few episodes were put on a hype so much is drew viewers to watch it.

and also i'm not saying anything bad about the drama. i am actually enjoying it. even though i found a lot of lapses in logic i still find it interesting..

KTH is popular IN KOREA. And for the nth time i'll say this. Korea doesn't care about international audiences. If Park Shin Hye or Lee Min Ho is popular internationally, they are nothing compared to Won Bin or Jeon Ji Hyun who is very much loved by korean people..

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@endz. I really like the part where you explain that Korean dynamics and international dynamics of kdrama loving have a distinct separateness. I think it's great. And im being genuine here. I think there's an ownership of the genre that outsiders need to respect. So that arguments about which shows deserve which ratings can die down a bit, if not, completely. And especially when they are coming from people who are not within the system.

But it also interests me that you say the show may have benefited from a 'hype' and 'word of mouth' that other shows don't get. If that's the case then it makes our arguments on this page pretty circular.

Why would people 'hype' a show or try to expand the viewership of theshow by 'word of mouth' if this show wasn't a good show.

And why don't the other shows get the same 'hype' and 'word of mouth' royal treatment? It comes back to same argument about this show having the right combination of the things a substantial no. Of people want from their show. I think that's one of the simple points genuine fans of the show are trying to make.

Also, thanks for confirming the actual popular stars in Korea. I'm happy KTH is one of them :).

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Your ratings analysis is very correct. It's the first drama after a long time that obviously attacted NEW audience to Wed-Thu zone. Somewhere I read that brought men in front of the TV which is a very hard feat. On the qualitive facts I believe that international "fans" have a distorted idea about who can attract audience and to which degree. My observation is that we're made to believe that some stars are "mega" where in fact other parameters besides popularity are key in the casting like network policies, agencies, ads, scheduling and most of all who's putting the money and why.

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@korini. Bingo! I figured this show would have more male viewership... how awesome for the show that it could combine that with an already inbuilt female viewership. Yay! Nice to know.

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I think by not much competition most of us mean that the summer shows are seldom the best of the bunch - they quite often have the lowest budgets also.

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YAY! I was really happy when I read about this extension. Love Yong-Pal and Joo Won.

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I know, right! :) im a little concerned about the workload since people have noted Joo Won looks extra sleep-deprived... but im really excited for the extension! Yaaaaaaaaaaassss!!!!

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It ends on my birthday!;) And my exam day:(

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Joowon is my happy place right now, so I'm glad to have a couple more episodes with him and his character, especially as the spectre of his military service looms. But two is a good number; anymore than that would definitely strain the drama beyond reasonable suspension of disbelief.

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With this role, hope that more people realize that KTH's acting has much improved since "My Princess."

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AGREED.

especially when comparing with her earlier days in acting, nowadays she has improved a lot.

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It isn't so much a case of a person being oh-so analytical and/or logical that could cause dissatisfaction with watching Yong Pal, its almost more of an inability to be imaginative and inventive with the portions of the story the writer expects you to grasp.

Not trying to slander anyone or show here, lol, but people, like shows, can and should be categorised so that apples are not compared to oranges...

Certain shows have a number of different plots and sub-plots, genres and sub-genres... such shows shouldn't be compared to shows with essentially one major plot and one clear genre. Becos obviously one will be more easily (and I use 'easily' tentatively here) executed than the other. Why? Because the time provided for both shows are essentially the same... an hour per show... two hours per week. Ergo a show with more characters, multiple genres, plots, etc... should have more to explain than a show less characters, one plot and one genre, to satisfy everyone!

And it is more than apparent that people are gonna be able to choose from a buffet of what they have before them, what to nitpick and what to find logical.

It's that simple.

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Hi @Affie, I am more of a logic type of person yet I have no problem grasping this drama.

When I watch dramas, I usually dial down my brain as Javabeans call it or suspend my sense of logic. Strangely for Yong Pal, I ended up doing the exact opposite.

For a start, I watch the show in my usual mode and enjoy the exhilarating ride. Occasionally, questions may surface. I mull a little, run over some scenes or dialogues and find almost all the answers to my questions. Some just needed to be uncovered in the next episode or as the plot progresses. It’s not perfect of course. Things I found unbelievable for example were YJ surviving the suicide fall, incompetent nurse serving the VIP clients but they were generally things which I could ignore.

My conclusion is that most kdramas spoon feed you or like you said, simple storyline, one major plot, one genre and therefore simpler to follow. Yong Pal is not baby food or romantic mush, you need to cut, chew and savor.

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@SS. Yes. A 1000 times Yes. I'm the exact same way, SS. I found I had to dial up my brain... And kdramas hardly ever do that to me. So yeah... I'm with you on this. :)

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it so sad that Yong pal was only extended to 18 episodes, cause i was kind of expecting 24 episodes previously decided, it a great mini series,sad it wont stay long.

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I might be in teh same ship as you,i strangly find 18 episodes too little to the story they might still have tothey,strangly i felt that only now the story really starts and wanted more,kinda sad it's not even 20 episodes

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I am actually sorry they extended it. I have yet to see any show that got extended get any better, and all but one or two got worse.

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is yong pal worth 2 watch....i do know about the high rating...but nowadays we cant just simply label that movie is good because it has high rating...i know joowon is a very good actor...but did KTH live up to that par or she's the one that spoil this drama because of her acting...i just want some opinion about this drama...

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@casso. Hiiii. I think your concerns have been addressed more at the beginning of this comment thread. Do check them out. Good luck making a decision :)

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agreed with Affie.

Casso, you should read the comment thread fr0m beginning. worthy to watch or not, depends on your taste and preference.

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I cant with people downplaying Yongpal so much. It is a really good drama if you ignore the flashbacks and sudden romance.

Now its getting better and better. All casts' acting is on par and it keeps me at the edge of my seat after each episode.

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"...he should always be on the verge of grave danger and eternal happiness."

... while wearing a crisp, white shirt with rolled-up sleeves.

Really, seeing him in that costume makes my heart flutter. :D

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I echo the sentiments of a lot of people here, in that, things were amazing at the beginning ... episode 7 was were it just kinda fizzled and episodes 8 to 9 were a continuation of this. While episodes 10 and 11 have picked up, the initial excitement and interest has dwindled for me. Akin to flat coke, it's fizzy at the beginning and I'm enjoying the drink, then it goes flat and I'm only drinking it because I'm thirsty LOL.

Anyway, for me, I don't think drama is anything spectacular...and we all know ratings means NOTHING. In fact I thought Healer did a much better job delivering an equal balance of a action/romance/plot than this is so far. But hey, we're in a drama drought these days, I'm going to take what I can get lol

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Healer got so boring at the second half ... I skiped many episodes and watched only the last one. Definitely not a good example of decent action/romance drama for me but that's just my opinion.

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Kendra i second your opinion...i'm still stuck on episode 14 of healer lol.

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guys, i still stuck after first half. been excited at the beginning because of Ji Chang Wook and Park Min Young,but dunno what happened because i got so boring

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I think I finally see what's the problem. I suspected but as more comments show up, I realized this is possibly it.

People are butthurt that the dramas they love didn't get as high ratings as Yong Pal.

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@SS. Hahaha! I know right! It's normal. It's fine... let them be butthurt. It's not gonna ruin Yong Pal. It's not going to affect its ratings. These people are the exception to Yong Pal's rule (pun fully intended :) )

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@SS. It's fine. Let them. Its not gonna affect Yong Pal's ratings one single bit.

They are just the exception to Yong Pal's rule. (Pun fully intended :) )

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@SS 27
A certain Aesop's fable came to mind. It's about the fox that tried to eat grapes from a vine that he can't reach. Instead of admitting defeat, the fox denied that the grapes were desirable and scoffed that he doesn't want them anyway since they were probably sour.

Affie is right, let them be, such butthurt foxes won't hurt Yong Pal. ;)

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@SS Claws and teeth, I think you no longer need it. ^^ As for me, I will just stuck out my tongue and wiggle it. :)~

Dialing one's what? Well, if I do that, I will not fully appreciate and understand what this drama is. For one, its not all action. You need to use your brain to understand what it wants to convey. The "dull" moments are actually full of information. And does this means, those who watched and made the ratings high, do not use their brain while watching. Ouch. What a poke on the Korean audience side. I do not think they are, they pretty much understand what this drama is, because for me its based on their own setting, what is happening around them and that makes it engaging to watch.. and see, extension. It just shows they like it.

Anyway, I will just sit, relax and watch this drama. Seeing Joo Won in two more episode is a real treat considering I have been waiting for a long time for him to be in my small screen again. Ahhh.. he makes me warm and hot all over. ^^

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SS..i think you're the one who's butthurt because you can not seem to accept that other people's opinion differ from you.

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Thank you, I wonder if overzealous Yong Pal fans don't realize how off putting their attitude is.

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As some like to say, DB is a place where one can express their opinion freely, right? If one can rant, one can also rave.

Just read the comments section in the last few episodes and you will see that just as there are "overzealous" fans raving over Yong Pal, there are "overzealous" readers ranting on the drama.

Having said this, I always feel it's easier to understand why people get overzealous in raving over something they like. It's more difficult to understand when people get overzealous in ranting over something they don't like.

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@caro. This is not to offend you but... you do realise that 'fan' is the cropped version of 'fanatic', right? Since this is a Yong Pal page, it is par for the course that there would be Yong Pal 'fanatics', lol. So pls, don't be put off by any natural fanatical behaviour because that would be like asking why rain is wet.

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uhm all offense meant but I ALSO WONDER IF NON-YONG PAL FANS if ever realize how OFF putting their attitude is.

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My reply is also with reference to your comment at 16.

I do accept that other people's opinion is different from mine for example "I think Yong Pal is boring" or "The romance didn't work for me" I didn't call you out for saying that Yong Pal isn't worth the clamor. That is your opinion which is subjective. If I say it's worth it. it's also subjective.

I only took issue with the fact that you made a general statement that Yong Pal is number 1 due to lack of competition and Kim Tae Hee. First, this thing about lack of competition. I think it's rather insulting to the other two dramas - SWWTN and Assembly. The ratings figures also show that compared to earlier batches of Wed/Thur dramas, SWWTN and Assembly's numbers weren't that unusual. The one that stood out is Yong Pal's numbers are significantly higher than any number 1 drama in their time slot previously.
I used the numbers to show that Yong Pal is not number 1 simply because of lack of competition. I actually agree with you that it's better and a lot of people watched it :D

I am not a fan of Kim Tae Hee but from comments here and k netizens, can I just say it's a mixed bag? I know she has a sizeable fanbase but again is she reason that Yong Pal is number 1? I like numbers so bear with me. Her last drama before Yong Pal was Jang Ok Jung, right? It has an average rating of about 9.8%. For a 2013 drama, I don't think it's high.

By the way, in case you think I am anti-KTH, I am not. I really enjoy her performance as Yeo Jin and think she's a far better actress than many credit her for.

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@ SS, affie, korini, Lilith....

Inspired by SS's script on Dining Experience

A: I like this lollipop and I found many reasons to like it. Suits me, makes me happy just talking about it.

B: I hate it. Lacks logical reason for me to go on. I also don't like you raving about it. I will keep giving you the reasons not to like this lollipop. Meanwhile, I may eat it or I may drop it.

A; I sure hope you don't eat it anymore if you do not like it. I will talk to others about this lollipop coz I like it. I won't force you to like it so please don't keep discouraging me coz I need to enjoy it while it lasts.

B: I am not getting you and I really think you are making a big deal out of me not liking you liking this lollipop. I am irritated you like this lollipop and I think you just couldn't see the existence and illogical part of this lollipop. I am so upset that they even make lollipops. I recommend people not to eat lollipop!

A: I hope you would give others the chance to try it out coz different people have different tastes.

B: Why can't you accept that I hate it, and I want others to hate it too.

A: Why can't you accept that I like it, and I want others to like it too.

B: I really find you annoying for liking this lollipop and keep raving about it....

A: Flabbergasted. Speechless

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@Shuerei. ROFL! :D +1,000,000 ₩

oh boy, am I ever glad this Yong Pal experience is taking place during my annual leave! I've been sitting at home all day trying to kick back... there's been a lot of going off and coming back to this awesome thread... saying this and saying that.. giggling about this and that... but now you have me in a fit! I'm in stitches!

I love this! So apt!

Thanks SS for the inspiration! Thanks Shuerei for giving me a great laugh before bed... ;) cheers.

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@SS
(also Affie, nonski, Lilith, vgy)

I admire your patience... Maybe it's hard for people who don't like the show to understand those who like it. Nevertheless, thanks for your hard work.

I find KTH sweet, likable and relatable and I can see she is improving a lot with each show. Now on the other hand, Lee Jun Ki is a great actor and who wouldn't wanna watch SWWTN? But as we can see, acting alone and even flawless and logical script don't necessary draw high ratings. Twenty percent of South Korean viewers are onto something that click with them.

- Could it be that they are drawn to the a hero whose greatest blind spot is not knowing he is? Or

- Perhaps they can't help but cheer the guy who has nothing getting the girl who lost everything? Or

- Maybe they are just awed by the multiple players involved and the intrigues that lurk behind each plot? Or

- Likely, they really like all the allies who put their lives and careers on the line for the likable hero...the nurses, Doo Chul, Chae Young etc.... And even Sec Min?

Or simply because they (and we) want to watch something hopeful in a world of chaos, strength and love in a jaded and hateful world....

Seriously, if more than 24 percent viewers liked an alien in the Man from the Stars or something - what's so illogical about 20 percent audience watching a doctor ...

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No, actually I think most people don't care that much what the ratings are as long as I like it. The two other shows currently running that I like better have much lower ratings, but I am certainly not "butthurt" about it.

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HAHAHAHA i loved you comment. AGREED TOTALLY.

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@SS. Oops... Sorry for the double post. I switched phones. I was having trouble posting earlier on the other phone. This one is already synced with some accounts so I typed Joo Won for privacy. It's still Affie here. Lol.

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It was a little jarring that the show took so many episodes to establish their relationship. While I still think that the "fanservice" was unnecessary, I'm glad that I'm still watching, from episode 10 onwards Yong-pal has picked up its pace again and is back on track. That being said, this week's cliffhanger is gasp-and-on-the-edge-of-your-seat amazing!

And c'mon, its JOO WON. ♥

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It could also be demographics. Less women liking it than men. Or people of a certain age group liking it better than another age bracket... Let's not forget that. :)

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Because of the recaps (which I continued to read, even after dropping the show) I am going to pick up Yong Pal again.

I will probably zip through episode 9. though.

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Just my two cents...

I like everything about Yong Pal except the romance. Which for me, is a huge surprise since I mostly prefer romance to other genres. I guess the way the romance was introduced didn't jive for me, so I have a hard time accepting it. I just fast forward through their kiss scenes.... either that or I laugh uproariously.

Second... Kim Tae Hee is surprisingly beautiful, I've seen her before and thought she was plain. This is the first drama in which I could stand to watch her. I disliked her intensely in "My princess" where I found her acting too phony and too cutesy... like treacle. But she's doing so well in Yong Pal and pulling her weight.

Oh! And the only reason I'm sticking with Yong Pal is because there really are very few other kdramas currently airing that catch my interest....so for me I would say it's because of a lack of competition :-)

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My big problem with the romance is that it does not seem like a romance at all.

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Everyone entitle on their own opinion. Not everyone feel the same, and mostly quite agreed on the romance issue in this drama. As for me, in every drama i watched, i dont care about romance so much. Normally i just skipping romance scene, esp kissing scene aha.

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I think 18 episodes is just right.
Yongpal, fighting!

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I thought this was 20-episodes, but was surprised to find out it was only 16. Weird.

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It was really just 16. And now extended to 18. The rumors about it being 20 or 24 were basically just that - rumors.

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Does anyone else feel the modern day Sageuk vibe to this drama? I mean the evil brother that wants to kill his sibling to become king, the princess who is trying to fight for her rightful throne, and the middle class doctor that falls in love with the princess.

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It's a pretty common theme worldwide, not just in k-dramas. I think over the last 1000 years or so, most European kings and princes spent more time killing family members than they did eating.

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yes.. but what do you think will YJ be able to protect her throne?? now we know that hanshin group has dark secrets. (all we know there, hangshin may not be the only one..so i hope they will let go this.) and she will be charged for attempting murder of her brother and chief lee. just hope TH will turn it around. find that evidence that YJ has been drugged for three yrs by Dj..
I hope the end YJ will still be able to protect Th and maintaining her status as the CEo of Hanshin and TH will still be working as a surgeon and change the hanshin...what do you think?

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Noooo! I wanted Yong Pal to be 20 episodes not 18!

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