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Oh My Baby: Episode 4

As our heroine deals with the fallout of the disastrous meeting that ended up on the news, the new photographer proves that he has what it takes to be a good friend. They’re becoming more comfortable around each other, both personally and professionally, while our heroine continues to consider her options for a child of her own. The photographer may not be interested in marriage or children, but he’s definitely interested in our determined heroine who’s made it no secret that she wants both.

  
EPISODE 4: “The time one needs to understand others”

In the middle of his test shoot, Jae-young recognizes the look in Ha-ri’s eyes and warns Yi-sang and Eu-tteum, “Acknowledge her now, and you’ll be in trouble.” While Jae-young poses for individual photos, Ha-ri studies him closely, “If my baby takes after him, it’ll be smart,” but she rejects the idea because Jae-young is like a brother. Ha-ri only considers Yi-sang briefly because he still makes her uncomfortable and turns her attention to Eu-tteum, “What is his deal?”

The photoshoot over, the three men leave together with Ha-ri close behind. When she invites them to lunch, Jae-young insists Do-ah needs him while Eu-tteum is on his way to report to Manager Kim. Ha-ri knows that her mom can babysit all afternoon and that Manager Kim has a lunch meeting. As Ha-ri leads the way, Jae-young assures his worried companions, “We’ll be okay.”

At lunch, the three men sit across from Ha-ri and the restaurant owner teases that it looks like Ha-ri is choosing a husband. When Jae-young asks why she invited them to lunch, Ha-ri explains that now that the men are close, she was hoping that could all become better friends. With a sigh of relief, Eu-tteum blurts out, “We became close because we were all scared of you.”

When Ha-ri inquires about the men’s health, especially any familial medical concerns, Jae-young suspects that Ha-ri needs a liver transplant. Jae-young warns, “You can’t have a part of mine…It has hardened from all the liquor.” As they bicker, Eu-tteum observes, “You two seem like real siblings.”

Ha-ri explains that she and Jae-young have known each other since they were babies because their mothers were friends. Yi-sang was under the impression that they were cousins but Ha-ri assures him that Jae-young is just a friend. When Yi-sang asks why they live together, Jae-young takes Ha-ri’s hand, “Who says we can’t? Especially when we’re this close,” but she slaps it away. Raising her glass, Ha-ri toasts to getting to know each other better.

Ha-ri returns to Dachae Media at the same time as Editor Shim and is forced to finally confront her scandal. Ha-ri apologizes but confesses, “I understand how it can be frowned upon, but I don’t think what I did was that wrong.”

While not in agreement with Ha-ri’s choice, Editor Shim is sympathetic to her desperation. When she warns, “Just make sure you deal with the mess yourself,” Ha-ri isn’t worried since only Dachae Media people recognized her. That’s exactly what Editor Shim is afraid of.

Later, Ha-ri realizes that she’s the topic of conversation among the employees. Manager Kim corners her to confirm a ridiculous rumor that he knows isn’t true — Ha-ri was returning to Sperm Donor for another child after the birth of her (nonexistent) daughter.

Mom plays with Do-ah while recalling Ha-ri’s argument that without a child, she would end up all alone. With tears in her eyes, Mom worries, “If you have no one, who will take care of you when you’re sick?”

That night, Ha-ri’s mother invites Jae-young to join her for soju. When she asks how he really feels about Ha-ri, Jae-young explains that they’ve been friends for so long she feels like family. Mom wants to make it official but she’s frustrated because Jae-young refuses to see Ha-ri as a woman. Jae-young confesses that he’s well aware of Ha-ri’s charms, which is why he doesn’t want to saddle her with a single father.

At home, Yi-sang drops a surfboard on his foot while cleaning and when his slipper falls off, he’s reminded that Jae-young brought Ha-ri’s shoes when she ran out of her house. Bothered, Yi-sang asks the primitive statue in his living room, “How does this make any sense? A man and a woman who have a close relationship are living in the same house?”

In the morning, Ha-ri descends the seldom used staircase to join Mom and Jae-young for breakfast. When Ha-ri tries to explain that at her age, getting pregnant is more urgent than getting married, Mom storms off.

When Jae-young scolds her, Ha-ri imagines a boy that looks just like him seated across from her. When the boy tells her, “Grandma’s already upset as it is…Use your common sense, Mom,” Jae-young is confused when Ha-ri announces, “There’s no way I’d choose you.”

At Jambi Studio, Yi-sang watches Ha-ri help Soo-chul during another photoshoot until he’s distracted by Yeon-ho, who’s reviewing Jae-young’s photos. When asked about Ha-ri’s friendship with Jae-young, Yeon-ho confirms that they’ve known each other all their lives. She adds that they grew apart when Jae-young got married but after his divorce, he moved into Ha-ri’s house with his baby.

Yeon-ho considers Jae-young the perfect man for Ha-ri but Yi-sang disagrees, “He looks like a total con artist.” As Yi-sang walks away, Yeon-ho smirks, “Look at him being jealous.”

During a break, Yi-sang sits beside Ha-ri to warn, “When you feel anxious, you tend to make bad moves.” He suggests, “Feel free to make mistakes on me,” but Ha-ri cooly replies, “Whether or not I date a loser, it’s none of your business.”

Feeling dizzy, Yi-sang goes in search of something sweet to raise his blood sugar. As the photoshoot resumes, Ha-ri sees Yi-sang with a lollipop and imagines his mini-me begging, “Mommy, I’m so hungry, I can’t take it. Can’t I have a hot dog?” Turning away, Ha-ri mumbles, “He’s uncomfortable.”

That evening, Yi-sang returns to his family home for his father’s death anniversary. His mother places a cup of water in front of his father’s portrait, featuring a photoshopped background of the Eiffel Tower thanks to Yi-sang, and reminds her family, “Your father drinks water before he eats.”

During dinner, Yi-sang’s mother asks about his plans for a housewarming party and is told that only adults are welcome. When his sister-in-law protests, Yi-sang reminds her that he has a baby at his place. His mother misunderstands until his sister-in-law explains that Yi-sang is talking about a statue.

Worried about his attachment to a statue, Yi-sang’s sister-in-law offers to set him up with someone from her company. When Yi-sang protests that he’s not very social, his brother calls him a loser and leaves the table. Confused, Yi-sang’s young niece asks what happened to his fiancé but her older brother scolds, “Uncle’s wedding fell through…In-ah is banned, you stupid moron.” While his family argues, Yi-sang quietly eats his meal.

At Dachae Media, Eu-tteum is assigned to help Editor Shim with the gift bags for the launch of new magazine, “The Mom”. Hyo-joo makes her unhappiness obvious when she’s sent to the storage room with Eu-tteum to get supplies.

When Hyo-joo struggles with her cart, Eu-tteum explains why he won’t offer to do all of the heavy work. His feminist mother taught him not to treat women as if they’re weak but Hyo-joo doesn’t want to work at all and assures Eu-tteum, “I’m fine, so pull it for me.”

When they run into Ha-ri, with Eu-tteum pushing both carts, Hyo-joo whines that her new dress will get ruined in the storage room. She’s overjoyed when Ha-ri offers to take her place. In the storage room, Ha-ri watches Eu-tteum retrieve some magazines from a top shelf and mumbles, “The younger they are, the more fertile they’ll be.”

Eu-tteum hears her but Ha-ri convinces him that she meant that, thanks to his physical strength, he’s more likely to succeed in life. Flattered, Eu-tteum promises, “I’ll gladly help you out with my healthy body.”

Soo-chul and Yi-sang buy some ice cream and pause to admire the store’s poster, which features Yi-sang’s work. When Soo-chul asks Yi-sang to officially join Jambi Studio, he refuses, “I’m sick of working with babies.”

Their carts full, Ha-ri and Eu-tteum wait for an elevator. Ha-ri makes the mistake of complaining about her aches and is told it’s a sign that she’s middle-aged. Eu-tteum steps away for a few seconds and Ha-ri’s eyes widen when his pint-sized version returns. Seeing that the elevator is full, Eu-tteum’s cute son announces, “Can you please make some space? My mom is too old, and her body is aching all over.” Cringing, Ha-ri tells herself, “I can’t handle this kid.

On their walk back to the studio, Yi-sang and Soo-chul catch some punks throwing trash on the sidewalk. When Yi-sang reminds them that trash goes in a trash can, he’s told that he sounds like a dad.

Yi-sang pulls out his phone to record the schoolboys, reading the names on their uniforms out loud. When they grab for his phone, Yi-sang tosses it to Soo-chul, who falls as he tries to catch it. Running to Soo-chul’s side, Yi-sang steps on his arm.

At home, Mom calls every contact in her phone directory but she doesn’t find a single prospect for Ha-ri. Next, Mom visits a bank and sits down with a representative that she guesses isn’t married. Mom confirms his unmarried status but he’s eliminated after answering a phone call reminding him to pick up some diapers for his son.

When Mom attends a guitar class, she decides that the teacher deserves a closer look. Mom visits the teacher’s office but his cap has been removed, revealing a huge bald spot, and she backs away.

Waiting for her bus, Mom sees all the men around her and wonders, “Who are all these men married to?” When she gets a reminder about a medical procedure, Mom sighs, “It’s been three months already?”

With the gift bags done, Yeon-ho reports that there aren’t any company vehicles available to deliver them and suggests asking the photographer for a favor. When Ha-ri pays a visit to Jambi Studio, she finds Soo-chul in a cast and a sling and an apologetic Yi-sang assures Ha-ri that he’ll take Soo-chul’s place at the launch event.

The next day, as he drives Ha-ri and the gift bags to the event, Yi-sang complains that she always needs extra favors. When Ha-ri argues that they’re close enough for that sort of thing, he reminds her, “…you didn’t want to even look at me anymore.”

Ha-ri recalls that Yi-sang took her in his arms when she cried but he clarifies that all he did was pat her on the back. Ha-ri feigns disappointment that her wish to become friends is one-sided.

At the launch, an hour has gone by and not one guest has arrived. When two moms walk in, everyone jumps up in excitement, but they’re just there to inform their hosts that the event is being boycotted because of Ha-ri’s scandal.

When they call Ha-ri’s morals questionable, she admits that she expected mothers to understand her. The women explain it’s because they’re mothers that they decided to take a stand, “…what about the children who will grow up without a father…How could you do this to your own child?” When one of the moms suggests that Ha-ri should get a cat or a dog, Yi-sang comes to her defense, “It’s not your call whether or not she raises a dog or a baby.”

Ha-ri apologizes for making the mothers feel uncomfortable but makes it clear she had no intention of doing what they’re condemning her for. After working alongside moms for 15 years, Ha-ri still doesn’t understand them but she’s hopeful she’ll get the chance to join their ranks someday.

Back at Dachae Media, Vice President Joo is furious when he learns about the boycott. He informs Editor Shim that he wants to see Ha-ri in his office first thing in the morning.

Yi-sang tries calling Ha-ri and when she doesn’t answer her phone, he finds her at the pojangmacha where they went with Jae-young. When Yi-sang joins her, Ha-ri asks if he expected to find her crying, but he answers, “I needed a drinking buddy. I have a lot on my mind today.”

When Ha-ri wonders if the moms will ever understand her, Yi-sang shares that his parents argued about his father’s habit of drinking a cup of water before meals for 40 years. His mother was convinced it was bad for her husband’s digestion but now, she serves it at his father’s memorial.

Yi-sang reasons, “If you finally understand someone at one point in your life, it means that you’ve been thinking about them all that time…And if you really do understand, your attitude would change.”

On the walk home, Ha-ri questions Yi-sang why he decided to stay single. He explains, “I can’t handle being excited in love anymore…I want to live as I do now. Silently. Without any happenings.” When they stop at a light, Yi-sang asks Ha-ri, “Why do you want to be a mom?” Ha-ri answers, “I just want to become happy.”

In the morning, Editor Shim accompanies Ha-ri to her meeting with Vice President Joo and Chairman Jo. When Vice President Joo informs them that a disciplinary hearing has been called, Ha-ri looks worried.

As Ha-ri leaves the meeting, Editor Shim argues that while she was wrong to damage the company’s reputation, their superiors have no right to interfere in Ha-ri’s personal life. Ha-ri stops to answer a call and is surprised to learn that her mother is at the hospital and needs her guardian before she can be discharged.

As Ha-ri waits for her mother at the hospital, she watches a son pushing his mother’s wheelchair. Ha-ri thinks of the all the times that her mother accompanied her to see a doctor and realizes that it’s her turn to be the guardian. When Mom walks out, Ha-ri jumps up to help her.

At home, Jae-young walks out of his room just as Ha-ri helps her mother inside. Mom blames the mixup on the fact that the hospital changed its policy because she never needed a guardian before. Ha-ri is upset that Mom acts as if she has no family and reminds her that she was the last one to know about Mom’s stomach cancer, after her surgery.

Mom argues that she doesn’t want to burden her hard-working daughter but Ha-ri protests, “Can’t I worry about you too?” Exasperated, Mom tells Ha-ri, “Save your nagging for your kids….Have kids using whatever means you want.”

Ha-ri confesses that she’s not qualified to be a mother because she never thought about the fact her child would grow up without a father, even though she never regretted being raised by a single mom. When Ha-ri wipes away a tear, her mother argues that nothing qualifies someone to become a parent, it’s a role that has to be learned once the baby arrives. Jae-young steps in to tell Ha-ri, “But if there was a license test for that, you’d get the highest score.”

Later, Jae-young lets himself into Ha-ri’s place to invite her for a drink but she turns him down. As they sit together, Ha-ri mentions that Yi-sang asked why she wanted to be a mom and his question reminded her of her elementary school graduation.

In a flashback, Mom instructed Ha-ri’s father to get their daughter a big bouquet for her graduation and to take lots of photos. On the way to school, Ha-ri paused in front of a flower vendor and asked for roses. Dad wasn’t paying attention and after he checked his watch, he announced that he needed to buy film and promised to meet Ha-ri at school.

Dad never showed and after the graduation ceremony, Ha-ri was alone while her fellow students posed for family photos. She was afraid to go home, aware that Dad’s latest failure likely meant the end of her parents’ marriage.

Jae-young’s mother saw that Ha-ri was alone and guessed what had happened. Handing her Jae-young’s bouquet, she posed the friends together for a photo. While his father took their picture, Jae-young told Ha-ri, “You look really ugly right now.” When Ha-ri hit Jae-young with the bouquet, his parents tried to separate them as Jae-young’s older brother photographed the skirmish.

Ha-ri eventually went to her mother’s restaurant where she burst into tears. Not seeing her husband, Mom took Ha-ri out for a celebratory meal and asked, “You’re okay without your dad, right?” Clenching her fist under the table to control her anxiety, Ha-ri calmly answered, “Yes.”

In the present, Ha-ri tells Jae-young that’s the moment she decided that she wanted to be a mother when she grew up, “My mom is the most awesome person in the world.” When Jae-young returns to his room, he walks out with a photo album and finds the pictures of Ha-ri on their elementary school graduation day.

The next morning, Manager Kim waits with the staff of The Baby to hear the results of Ha-ri’s disciplinary hearing. When Editor Shim returns, she reports that Ha-ri’s pay was suspended for a month.

Soo-chul sees Ha-ri when she walks out of Dachae Media and tells Yi-sang about her suspension. Ha-ri ends up at an arcade to play a shooting game by herself until Yi-sang appears and reminds her it’s designed for two players. They lose after a spirited round and Yi-sang asks, “What next,” but Ha-ri still has a deadline to meet even though she’s suspended.

Back at Jambi Studio, Ha-ri tickles Yi-sang to make their baby model laugh and she suddenly feels awkward. When it’s time to make the poor baby cry, Yi-sang has success when he bellows, “You naughty boy!”

When they check the photos, Ha-ri is impressed by Yi-sang’s work. She stamps the message “Good Job!” on his hand, explaining, “It’s us grown-ups who really need compliments.” As Ha-ri says goodbye to the baby model and his mother, Yi-sang studies the childish message on his hand and when he looks at Ha-ri, he tells himself, “This is bad.”

  
COMMENTS

Ha-ri suffered some serious setbacks after being recognized as the woman who was caught with the sperm donor. The repercussions revealed some surprising sources of support — Editor Shim and Yi-sang. While Editor Shim admits to having issues with Ha-ri’s decision to pursue single motherhood, she acknowledges that Ha-ri has a right to live life her way. She ends up running interference with the higher-ups and is by Ha-ri’s side at the disciplinary hearing. Thankfully, Editor Shim’s bark is definitely worse that her bite.

Perhaps because Yi-sang is also bucking tradition after deciding that marriage and a family aren’t in his future, he’s been surprisingly nonjudgemental about Ha-ri’s desire to have a baby without a husband. He’s proving to be a good listener as Ha-ri sorts through her feelings and he never scolds her the way that Jae-young does. While Jae-young’s attitude may be understandable in someone who’s like a brother, it’s not acceptable in a romantic partner, or a son, which is what Ha-ri realized when she imagined what her child might be like if Jae-young was the father. Being scolded by Jae-young is one thing, being scolded by their child is another thing altogether.

Even though Ha-ri is becoming more comfortable around Yi-sang, there’s still an element of discomfort on her part, which is why she can’t consider him seriously as a potential father. At least not yet. That discomfort was obvious when she pictured Yi-sang’s son and admitted that he too made her uncomfortable. Yet Eu-tteum’s imagined son was insufferable, just like dear old dad, even though he was as adorable as could be. Ha-ri just can’t face a life having her weaknesses and imperfections on blast.

Slowly coming around is Ha-ri’s mother, who’s finally seeing Ha-ri’s dilemma as she searches for someone, anyone, suitable for her daughter. She’s still pushing for Jae-young and Ha-ri to end up together but I agree with @dramallama, they’re best suited as friends and I sincerely hope it stays that way. What I do think is happening is that Jae-young is deeply regretting that he didn’t pursue Ha-ri romantically when he had the chance. She would have been a loyal, supportive wife and an excellent mother, everything that his ex-wife wasn’t. How different Jae-young’s life would be if he’d married Ha-ri instead.

While Eu-tteum is the youngest and most virile of Ha-ri’s current choices, he’s just way too annoying to be taken seriously. That doesn’t mean that I want him to end up with Hyo-joo because she’e even more annoying than he is. She barely tolerates Eu-tteum but she’s more than happy to dump more work on him just because he’s a guy, and she does the same thing to Ha-ri because she’s an ajumma. Ugh. Why does she bother going to work at all?

The unsuitability of Jae-young and Eu-tteum as potential fathers for Ha-ri’s baby just makes Yi-sang look better and better. It helps that he’s turning out to be a good friend but there’s a back and forth between Yi-sang and Ha-ri that’s irresistible, now that they’ve made it past their initial misunderstanding. There’s something about the tiny, petite, yet headstrong Ha-ri that pairs well with the tall, muscular Yi-sang who’s turning out to have the softest of hearts. That’s probably why Yi-sang was so devastated by his broken engagement but his growing feelings for Ha-ri suggest that he’s finally ready to move on. Let’s hope so, because Ha-ri doesn’t have much time to achieve her dream of becoming an awesome mother.

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Thanks for the wonderful recap @teriyaki! Episode 4 is a tearjerker for me. That realization that it was her turn to be the guardian and the confrontation with her mom hits me hard.

I am rooting for Yi-Sang! I think he is slowly falling for Ha-ri’s charms. Although, I think Jae-Young may have some feelings for her. It would be awkward if he tries to pursue her.

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In episode 4 I actually asked myself: is this supposed to be a comedy? Because it was so sad at times that I cried. Poor Ha-ri.

Thank you @teriyaki for the recap!

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Welcome to the world of Jang Nara comedies. 'Go Back Couple' was practically emotional torture porn.

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"Fated To Love You" 2nd half was just brutal salt on an open wound.

I hadn't noticed but wow Jang Nara really has a pattern. Also, if it is that romcom masking Makjang - then "The Last Empress" really is not out of place in her bio.

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Sure, sure - but Go Back Couple is equally antiseptic for anyone who has lost a parent. It doesn't sting, it cools.

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That confrontation with Mom, and then being adults when she needed support. When Ha Ri finally realised that her mom is not as strong at least physically as she used to be, she became more sad as she always depended on her and now it's her turn. That whole scene made me cry too!!!

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It was so beautifully shown in that scene, and Jang Nara could express those feelings: the realization that the person you love most and that you've been leaning on is now someone you have to take care because she needs you and you're the adult now. Whoever's been through it knows the feeling.

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True!!

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Listen, after his "This is bad" my ship left the harbor and is half way to it's destination. Yi Sang is so handsome. That being said I want Ha RI to be happy in whatever she chooses even if it is not him.

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I'm thinking Yi-sang may have no problem helping Ha-ri get pregnant, thinking he's just helping her and doesn't have to be involved after that except as a close friend. And that he'll keep crossing his own boundaries as Ha-ri needs help in her pregnancy, facing critics, delivering, and caring for their baby. And that he'll end up wanting to be part of their family. I'd rather see the show go that way then keep exploring what seem like dead ends. I'm done with JY and ET as potential dads. And I would also hate to see noble idiocy or Yi-sang's first love thrown up as obstacles. If we could just bottle his "this is bad" moment and sprinkle it on the remaining episodes, I'd be happy.

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I somehow actually think the only one that would do it without much problem would be Eu Ddeum based on the little bits we've seen...Yi Sang strikes to me as still "old style" that wouldn't do such stuff and would rather go old school marriage and all...

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Same, him mentioning his mom all the time makes me wonder if he is a son of a single mother too, coz no mention of dad. I'd really like to meet his mom, tho!

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Yes, the best thing about ET continues to be his mom. Good on her for teaching her son about equal rights but the guy could stand to have a few crash courses on reading the room and good ol' common sense

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I agree with you.

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This is perfect. I hope it goes exactly like this.

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Wow. That is "I can change him" on steroids.

Question: why should Ha Ri have it all her own way? Sure, Ha Ri has every right to desire a child, but that right does not require the world to bend to her.

As a plot projection it has no thought of YS as an autonomous person with his own thoughts, plans or even the risk of him changing his mind and making his own claims. Any one who has seen inheritance wrangles knows how brutal family can be when you least expect it.

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I found him really handsome and charming in the last scene at the studio even more when he realized he likes her more than he wants to admit,like that saying that love makes you even more handsome...

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100% agree. If I wasn't totally on board before --- I was waffling due to just the general hurdles they'd face as a couple (she wants a baby, he despises children) despite him being the clear front runner -- it definitely sailed those last few minutes of ep 4. While it's hard for me to see how they'll overcome their competing priorities, watching him slowly fall for her and accept her for all her flaws was pretty great.

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I'm sailing by your side.
I love the way he realizes that HaRi "is bad" to him in a good way.
He's been hurt before and decided that didn't want to be hurt again, so just wants to live his life the way it is, no complications around.
I can understand him so much, because I just think exactly the same.
Yet, life sometimes has other plans.

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Poor Yi Sang, between the little girl who said the name that should not be pronounced and the little boy who took time to tell why she shouldn't have said it, he wasn't helped 😂

For the love square, I can't picture anybody except Yi Sang for now.

It was hard Ha-ri learnt about her mother by phone and by a stranger. I like the mum-daughter bond they have.

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Yi-sang's family meal is awful! A caring family would dissuade their children from talking about a runaway fiancé, even if they talk about it between themselves. I detect a hint of schadenfreude from the sis-in-law, hissss.
Looking at him sitting there stoically eating made me sad.

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But the way he managed to keep a stoic face and kept eating, it totally shows how much he was hurt and how badly he tried to keep his emotions at bay. It's easy to understand why he is not ready to get involved in any relationship

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Yi-sang's brother making his exit with huffs & puffs makes me wonder if his family is prone to dramatics. Can totally relate to his wish for an unexciting life with no highs and lows from love or broken expectations!

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I didn't understand the brother's anger.
I mean, he's angry because his brother's fiancee run away?
There's something more there that we haven't been told yet.
And also there are the moai statues. I can think at least four times that have been seen: in the department store when he first crossed HaRi and seemed not to recognize her, in the doctor's office, in his apartment and in his dad's photo.

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To me it looked like his anger was that he didn't move on already and that he makes their mother worried...I can totally understand him being worried about his brother still being stuck in pain and about his mother feelings but can't with how he expresses it and why,aka "why can't u damn get over it,meet someone new already and marry just for mother stop being worried,don't cre if u are indeed happy or not do it to get over it..."

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I can't understand why people assume that dating or marring other person is the best way to "get over it". I mean, I totally understand him when he told HaRi he's happy where he is, he doesn't want to make any movement, he wants to live a quiet and happy life just as he's doing at the moment. Time heals. There's no need to rush. And above all, trying to heal by "using" another person is not the best way to heal.

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Indeed but sadly there is still this mentality going on aside from the fact that they consider a must marriage and children at that age,like it's a major sin to be single still or looked down upon as it considers something is wrong with you if u still aren't married and that's why many marry because it's expected of them not that they are ready or sure about it sady fact...So i couldn't be besides the younger brother at all knowing from were his anger and fuss was coming,dramatic overall(his mother seems more sensible)...It was more about other people peace of mind and well being rather than Yi Sang's.

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Am also super curious, what's with all the moai statues..?

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"This is bad." Heart flutters. Firmly on the Yi Sang and Hari ship. He's such a sexy weirdo.

I liked Episodes 1-3 but this is the episode that really sold me on the drama. I didn't expect the zany rom-com of Episode 1 to hit me so hard with its insights on motherhood and mother/child relationships. I'm a sucker for mothers and daughters in dramaland, and Hari and her mom have had some really poignant scenes. Hari's realization about the child becoming the guardian really resonated with me.

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'Sexy weirdo'😂😂😂
Yup, sounds about right 😉

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idk I am not feeling Yi Sang's charm yet, I am not excited abt his ship with Ha-ri at all. Meanwhile jae young is the main reason i am watching this drama he's just so refreshing. i am not shipping Ha ri with any of them but if i have to chose a guy of the three i'd choose JY, HR and him seem more cofortable with each other and JY understand HR more than anyone.
Eu tteum is just funny but i could never imagine him as a father but if he ended with HR "which i am sure it would never happen" I'll just thankful to the writer for pulling such a plot twist coz honestly i am bored with the typical endings in kdrama land and i don't need to watch the upcoming eps to know who's gonna end up with HR.

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My bet is that Eu Ddeum will eventually end up or fall for Ha Ri collegue...

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i don't like her Eu Ddeum is just too innocent for her, but i too think they're gonna end up together.

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I hope he doesn't. He's pretty annoying but at least a working guy and positive, while she's always making excuses not to work and isn't thankful at all.

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I'd enjoy a twist if it happens. In fact, am a bit surprised that show is heavily skewed towards Yi-sang so early, although I'm definitely not immune to his charm.

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Plot twists that's what made The replay series, sky catle, the world of the married popular coz it makes u wonder what would happen next and that curiosity what makes ppl eager continue watching.
The writer should've been smarter not to make it obvious. what's the use for three MLs if one of them is taking too much screen time.

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“We have no choice but to become an adult when we become our parents’ guardian.” The subtitles said, a painful reminder of times when I had to act as both a guardian and stand-in for both of my parents at the same time.

The more likeable Jaeyoung becomes as a character, the less I see him as a good match for Hari. I really want him to get his act together. Groom and dress more like in the photoshoot, work in his own clinic, moments with a happy Do-Ah for a change….His banter with Hari is hilarious and I want more of that, but he lacks something, even as a best friend. As long as I cannot pinpoint what it is I cannot ship him with Hari.🤔

“This game is for two people. You cannot play it by yourself.” Those are dangerous words to utter, Yi-Sang. I smell some foreshadowing.😉 Glad I am not the only idiot who drops heavy stuff on her toes.😆This probably makes me a horrible person, but Yi-Sang succeeding in making that baby cry on purpose was hilarious! Who needs my sympathy more: the baby or Yi-Sang?😂

Hari envisions her child as the little boy version of his father, but forgets that her child will inherit some of her genes as well, or might end up being a copy of her character. We are not meant to take it seriously, but how ironic would it be if she gave birth to a daughter instead? Just my two cents: Yi-Sang has girl dad written all over him.🤭

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I totally agree about the girl dad aspect of Yi Sang, lol

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The Viki translation didn't give the text for Yi-Sang yelling, apparently wanting to make believe it was a 'lion's roar' that made him cry. I saw the text in a translation from another site.

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We are given more details about the relationship of Jae Young and Ha-Ri and how they actually were so close as friends. I can see the regret on Jae Young part as though he loves Ha-Ri and cherishes her, he knows, she deserves better. But I will still be ok if they both end up together.
For Yi Sang, though we are all in for his ship, but it will take more time for both to have greater bond and to let go of their past and prejudices before they wholeheartedly accept each other.

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I was actually rooting at first for Eu-tteum, but unfortunately he's not very mature.

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I am loving this show a lot!- really.
There is no evil chaebol family or individual; no annoying second female or male lead, no boring politics, no crazy unrealistic things happening with the plot (at least so far)... And apparently, no villains at all.
I just love it!
Just simple normal people living their conflicts and struggles of an everyday life.
I will bet on you, show. Please, don't disappoint me....

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Such simple yet interesting and funny story showcasing the real life problem with such a ease!

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I feel you. Really just crave for a slice of life drama that I can sympathize and identify with. Really miss the "Because this life is our first" vibe and definitely see it here. Hope the writing keep going strong and don't falter in between.

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Yi-sang's speech about understanding being born out of misunderstanding seems to be the *mission statement* of the series. The topic probably remains a hard sell in Korea but the generous application of context, empathy and putting a human face on the issue goes a long way towards understanding.

I recall 'My Mister' started out with a mission statement too. The three brothers in the premiere were in a bar and one fantasizing about writing a movie about the lives of three middle-age sad sack brothers. Another adds, but how could we make it commercial so people would want to watch? Add a girl to the story! That's 'My Ajusshi' in a nutshell.

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I like your "mission statement" take!

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My Ajusshi!!!!😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

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The one thing that gave me pause was her saying she wanted a child to be 'happy'. Ooooh, that's quite a burden to place on a child. My mind immediately went to all those people who lost weight in order to be 'happy' but weren't happy afterward, or the people who suffered through years of school in pursuit of high profile careers (doctors, lawyers, etc.) but it didn't make them happy.

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This show is so that.
"wanted a child to be 'happy'"

The longer the drama goes on the less I see she brings to any partner. The sperm donor scene was brutal not as slapstick but as metaphor.

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I cringe when she said this. I need a child/ a partner/ a marriage/ a job/ ... to be happy/ complete eventually leads to disappointment. I always remember this old saying ''happiness is a state of mind, not a state of being".

Having said that who hasn't fall in this pit trap in their lifetime. I fell down this trap many times before I start learning my lesson and yet still do it again once and awhile. I like that this show so far been unapologetically honest about Hari desire.

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@yn00na
Social programming is just so hard to break (if you even notice it). We all fall into these pits because we have been forever told "X will make you (insert feeling/status)".

I guess the question is which direction will the show head. Is it going to be about re-enforcing or revealing it? For me, to date the signs are it is trending towards re-enforcing with just enough "revealing" sprinkled in to give it cover.

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Yes absolutely. It's continual brainswashing cycle for the herd.

I genuinely hope it'll be 'revealing' with enough fairy dust to make the general population happy.

For me, Hari solution is already right there infront of her. She wants to be a mother and her best friend is doing it tough raising a child without a mother figure, in her house. One of the thing that makes me uncomfortable still in this show is how narrow it define a parent-child relationship. It feels like the child has to come from her womb. Adoption or shared raising a child with your best friend has never (so far) been on the table. I'm not saying that its easy or even what i want the drama to go to that direction, but just at least mention it...

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The "aunt" role is often under rated in many cultures.

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That's a good point. She could totally become the stepmother or aunt to that child. But knowing the way dramas go, she will come around to that idea and the ex-wife will swoop in wanting her child back.

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Since many of us have raised the question of adoption, I looked it up. South Korea has two forms of adoption: private and public. A public adoption is where a child is in agency custody (orphanage, foster home). There are strict rules for adoption: married couples of three years or more; no more than 4 other household children; a home assessment of 3 to 6 months; and preference of domestic placement over foreign which takes 12 to 24 months to complete. (Most foreign adoptions have stopped but domestic adoptions have not risen). A private adoption is where birth parents petition a court to terminate their rights to adoptive parents. It seems a simpler procedure, but the court does not have to approve, taking in the "best interest of the child
standard. Korean society still puts orphans as second class citizens, and culturally against raising someone else's child.
Apparently, the law recently changed where a single person could adopt a child if "they are extremely well off." I assume that means independently wealthy, not subject to work burdens to be a stay-at-home parent. It seems it would be an impossible burden to meet.

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I was raised by an aunt, my mom’s sister (whom I thought my biological mom until 7). When I got at sick at 10 yrs old, my mom “snatched” me back thinking my aunt was the reason I got sick. When I was 21, I helped raised my niece and nephew for 3 years. ( they are grateful but that’s it). In the Asian culture where I grew up, Aunts/ Uncles have very important roles in a family, they could assist the parents in bringing up their children just like grandma/ grandpa do, could even discipline us ( unlike here in the west where only mom/ dad do). But in the eyes of a child, they are not mom and dad... To my own surprised, despite resentment of my parents for their years of absence, I loved them dearly. It was so natural.I did my best to serve them well as what’s expected of me. But as for my aunt, though I loved her, it was different. I was too young and immature when she needed me...So their is a reason why “aunt” is underrated.

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@Aurora

Thank you for that.

It's funny, I think we have reached my first ever loop point in a DB discussion if we go up to social programming post.

Yes aunt is different. Obviously I don't know your full story and some critical details of it can be read 2 ways, but from a naive reading of what you have disclosed wow your aunt offered you a home and hearth for all those years with the risk of being temporary and non-reciprocated.

Your story sounds like your sense of normal home swapped primary care giver. Imagine what life is like for children who don't have an aunt/uncle to catch those who fall. I know for some, that sense of home ends at that first moment parents no longer being able to provide a home. There is no ability for them to come back and start over.

I can't comment on your position or choices, all I can say is mine are the opposite.

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There's lots of good discussions here ranging from the role of aunts/step mother, adoption and so forth. Frankly thats all I wish the drama do, just brings some of these alternate ways into the discussion plate. That there is another viable way of raising another human being into adulthood. I'm not asking the drama plot to turn into a step.mother drama or an adoption drama, because i know that's not what the theme of the drama (plus, what're we going to do with those three hunk of guys).

The drama set us up with a heroine that has issue having a child of her own. From medical point alone from the early episodes, her endometriosis and her age alone set her chance of naturally conceiving a child to be low. Plus the complication of having the sperms to fertilize the egg. The drama explore the topic of freezing egg, getting sperm (both legally and illegally) and show us why they're not viable options for her. Would be interesting if the drama also show her exploring the options of motherhood beyond what biology dictate and there wont be an issue to show why those options maynot be the right things for her. Because as im sure we all agree, every single option came with their own set of challenges.

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@ Screentime Thank you for your comment. Yes, my primary caregiver swapped and as a kid, I didn’t have a choice.To think that my parents lived and worked nearby, that there would be little to no reason that they would left me behind for years while my younger brother was with them the whole time. Anyhow, it seems that because my single aunt was so fond of me, my mom allowed me to stay there and because both my parents are busy with work, I didn’t see them around that often. And so I grew up thinking that my Aunt was my real mom until in first grade someone told me that the teacher in 5th grade is my mother. I was so confused because I barely remember calling her “mama”( I addressed my aunt the equivalent of mother in our dialect). People around me called me “adopted” so I thought I was legally adopted but that was not the case. My aunt act like I’m really her kid and I believed it as I am always with her. Anyhow,my biological mom was strict but have many good qualities, so is my papa. When I moved out, I still see my aunt but as I grew up, the dynamic changed. I learned to love my parents more. It’s hard to explain but I’m sure a lot of people with similar circumstances felt the same way. Thus, I often heard people saying that don’t be a fool with kids “as they will leave and come back to their parents when they’re grown”. And indeed, that’s what happened me and a few in my extended family. Aunts and uncles are just “temporary shelter” and your niece/ nephew won’t stay with you forever and served you like they do their parents. Unfortunately, for my aunt she passed away when I was 20 as I was just started working. I still did try to be there for her when she got sick but I felt that was not enough. If it was a few years later, I could have served her better.. But for a couple of years, life in my new home is not always smooth. My brother and I fought often. And I would never forget my confrontation with my mom when I was 11. You see, I was quiet a rebel and when she tried to do corporal punishment, I talked back and told her that she doesn’t have any right to discipline me as she didn’t take care of me. My mom cried and told me that she still supported me financially even when I was with my aunt ( which I didn’t know). But to me, that is not the same. A child should should be with the parent especially if you are capable and could provide. Thus, I felt resentful. However, I still feel lucky that I had “two homes” while as you’ve said some don’t have any of that... In our family, this practice continued. We still take care of our nieces and nephews, as a loving aunt and uncle, helping them financially and providing them a home if necessary but the difference is we don’t expect them to love us like they do their parents. Anyhow, this is simply my personal opinion.

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Me, because I am a big fan of adoption, also feel she could have offered at least to co-raise her friend's child, but what @fogcity said is so true.... there is no guaranty, the real mother well never come to claim his child back. Also, as long as I know, in Korea, the relevance to the biological bond is very important. How many dramas portrait the typical family with a "adoptive" child, or the nephew raised as own child and yet not able to be the heir of the family business because he is not the biological offspring???
Even if it is about a poor family, people comment about others who have adoptive children and make them feel bad.
I know it is dramaland, but it shows part of the mentality in this culture.
That's why, I understand Ha ri.

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I also cringed with her saying that about happiness. But looking at the bright side, it gives room for her character to improve.
On the other hand, I really wish she would become a mother, but stay alone with the child and no man. I think she is capable to make a good job by herself, but of course, the writer will make her get married as well, 😆😂😆😂

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It took me a while but now I’m sold on this show, excited for the next episode!

I will be very surprised if she doesn’t end up with Yi-sang (and disappointed) but I’m looking forward to seeing how the show gets there.

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The status for my battle of the ships is: Eut-tteum ship has sinked very early in the show (pretty much the moment he repeatedly called her 'Aunt'). Jae-Young ship has been meandering back and forward between the always-be-your-friend/brother to potential-friend-to-lover so havent made much progress. Yi-Sang ship however has been steadily (albeit grumpily and hesitantly) move forward so he's leading the pack 😄

I'm expecting JY to throw in some heavy punches further down the race so YS won't have smooth sailing.

Btw i never understand, why are we all using ship metaphor?

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Agreed on all account of the ships, also have added worry of the ex-fiance appearing later on. Ugh, this is the trouble am getting when it gets so good so early, am looking for stormy weather ahead ><

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Unless I heard wrong the dumping of Yi-sang by his fiancé took place seven years ago. And she made it very clear that she was totally removing him from his life and planned to do very well without him. So her returning now- after no contact for seven years- would simply be weird. I think that this is one worry you do not have to have. Not that it could absolutely not happen- just exactly how would the writers explain this? And what audience would buy the explanation?

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But given the soft hearted and yet not over of her fiance Yi sang, if that will happen, it will be a true taste on both Yi sang and Ha-Ri part

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I also don't see the ex coming back. However his "I don't want to be a dad" might be a future conflict, I even suspect that might be the reason his ex left him. But even though I know this is a serious potential issue they have to handle I'm still on Yisang's ship.

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Yeah, this is where I think we might head. The ex herself might not be an issue but the reason why they broke up could stir up some strife.

In one of their conversations HR asks YS if he'll change his mind about kids in the future or something along those lines and he very confidently begins to say that won't happen. Now he's probably just referring to his resolute decision to have no baby/family dramas, but made me think for a second, if he had fertility issues of his own. won't that be the ultimate dilemma for HR ..you finally find a partner for life but they can't/won't be a part of your ultimate quest to have a biological child. Love Vs Baby.
I am probably reaching since the drama already has it hands full trying to explore HR's unconventional quest 😅

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Oh, it's just me borrowing trouble for all the possible wrench the show might throw their way because their ship is sailing so smoothly...
I was even thinking, what if Yi-sang know about her endometriosis issue and that's why he is so kind? We don't know what went on when he brought her to hospital in the first ep. *excusing my-worrywart-self out*

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‘Ship’ as in ‘relationship’ 🙂

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Ship is short for 'relationship' but it is in fact a great metaphor: Relationships are not static objects but moving ones- so when a ship 'sails' it is a way of describing that couple as now clearly embarked on a voyage towards a future together (hopefully) through all of the events, words, arguments, misunderstandings (resolved), actions and choices that can finally bring them into a loving relationship. As a Former Naval Person I particularly enjoy this metaphor.

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Oooo... makes perfect sense. Surprised I never made the connection before.

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Don't forget the competition isn't supposed to be romantic, its... um... medical. For sperm donor. Its likely Yi-sang's growing romantic feeling are going to interfere with her plans.

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Thank you for the wonderful recap, @teriyaki
Fave moments:
*Ha Ri and her mom are gonna break my heart every ep, aren't they? Mom's groom hunt was both desperate and hilarious. And I loved how she flared up on Ha Ri's behalf when HR mouthed the words she herself had said as an argument against having a baby as a single mom. Ha Ri's realization of her mother's mortality and the love they have for each other is so poignant.
*Aww, JY comes from good peeps.He's getting out of his funk and is running interference when the mother-daughter duo tend to get too maudlin.
*I like YS-JY's developing dynamic. They know they have no reason not to get along but can't help being wary of each other's place in Ha Ri's life.
*YS is falling hard for HR. He is an unexpected source of support to HR in this confusing time and his pep talks continue to hit the spot. I may have mouthed 'Karma' when he got all up on those mom's face for telling HR to get a dog instead of a child. Didn't you say something awfully similar to her a few years back, sir? :)

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I hope he beat himself good over his callous "get a dog" comment, and yes please, I'd love a Yi-sang + Jae-young bromance!

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Mom's happy face when she saw Ha-ri after her procedure is touching. Their relationship is so typical of people who cares too much for each other, they end up hurting each other. Mom hiding her stomach cancer is the same with Ha-ri hiding her endometriosis right now. I wished she let the people around her about the reason for her desperation soon. Also, am thinking that mom can actually take Ha-ri's confidence in being a single mom as a sort of compliment on the way she raised her daughter...

Can't say enough about how Yi-sang went out of his way to comfort Ha-ri. He knows all her favorite places! All those words he said about understanding another person boiled down to accepting someone the way they are, and he is totally practising it on Ha-ri. So much for that "fairly thick wall".

Only 4 episode in but Yi-sang has managed to shred Ha-ri's sleeve and mar her forehead, flattened his own toes and break Soo-chul's arm. Wonder what other accident we'll have for the remainder episodes ><

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I hope the next accident Yi-sang will do is....get Hari pregnant in episode 7 ..haha

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LOL! I should've expected this answer!

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I do think there are lot's of options to become a mom but there is really no doubt that if someone wants to be a mom, their primary need would be to have a child on their own. And I think there is nothing wrong with that.

This drama is about a person who wants to have her own child by getting pregnant and going through the experience. Saying that 'well she can adopt one' or 'she can be a step mother' etc does not go deep into the need perhaps some women feel to bear their own children.

I think this drama is not about adoption. It is definitely about her wanting to have her biological child.

I just feel as viewers, we must validate that somehow - to be fair to the characters.

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The cultural context is also important I think. I watched an interview where most Koreans questioned never even considered adoption as a way to have a family. It means something different in that cultural context.

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Jae-young is simply lost, I think. His impulsive decision to resign from the hospital makes me wonder for the future of his child - to do what? Open his own clinic? That is stupid: Running his own clinic would mean less time for his child, not more. His wife's desertion has simply been too much for him- and the need to take care of his baby gives him no time or space to sort anything out. It will take years before that changes. He is a good guy- but Ha-ri does not have years to wait for him.

Eu-tteum is also a good guy- who needs to grow up a little more. He clearly has a thing for Hyo-joo, who is so immature that it makes Eu-tteum look like a total adult in comparison. I could not agree with Teriyaki more about the unsuitability of Hyo-joo for Eu-tteum. and so I say to the writers please, please, please do not saddle Eu-tteum with this girl. He is a genuinely nice young man who deserves someone who is as nice as he is. So far Hyo-joo shows no interest in him. Let us hope that part of Eu-tteum growing up will be his realization that he does not want someone like her after all.

I love the way that Yi-sang is slowly letting Ha-ri into his heart- it is subconscious but also natural. And now that we know how badly he was hurt he looks less like a jerk and more like someone who never wants to be hurt again. That is why the back and forth between these two is so important- because that is how they can learn about what is important to the other person and build the trust which is the foundation of love.

Jang Na-ra is once again delivering a great performance but so are many of the other actors in this show. I hope that a lot of people watch this one because it really is well done.

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I would like to thank you for your perspective on Jae-Young. I mentioned in my comment that I found something missing, and now I understand better what and why. I also agree with your perspective of Jang Na-ra and the other two men.

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This is THE episode that makes me fall completely and totally for this drama. I hope it won’t disappoint.

I agree with the view that Ha-ri’s view of becoming a mother is to be a biological mom going through the whole process - including natural birth as opposed to a C-section - which I can relate to 100%. This is especially the case with her work in this ‘field’.

My vote goes to ‘This is bad’ - so refreshing for a drama to show the mail lead’s thought. The back and forth interactions between the two are turning them into the best possible relationship between a man and woman: soulmate!

Wish someone could do a screen cap of the scene when YS and HR at that traffic intersection under the moonlight. It’s such a pretty and poignant scene.

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Excellent recap.
Thank you very much 😊

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I love this show. Her expressing her desire to be a mom because she admired her mom was incredibly touching. I definitely teared up when she said “My mom is the most awesome person in the world.” And so good because it's adds this layers to her desire to be a mom when she was a little girl, which otherwise would have felt hollow. The scene also helps humanize her mother and their relationship, making it more dimensional in every scene.

Everything that needs to be said about YiSang and Hari has already been said. I'M HERE FOR IT. The way they're setting it up gradually makes it more believable and tender with every interaction, I was rooting for him after episode 2, but I kept expecting the other men to become more endearing over time as well. While usually I'm fine with a triangle (or quadrangle), right now it feels like it might be inconsequential to her story and not a real conflict.

Also shout out to the Easter Island tissue statue for making an appearance in the surfboard scene. Well, I guess Yi-Sang really did buy it that day at the mall.

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LOL, the tissue dispenser! I noticed it in a BTS video but didn't realise it's there in the middle of the table, so funny. Maybe I was distracted by the little red heart on his pyjama. Why is it so conspicuously on his collar..?

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I noticed the red heart too, I wonder if it's a brand [runs out to search buy new pajamas]. So subtle. I only caught it because I watched it twice. 😬

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Watched that particular scene a few times myself ^^

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What’s the song title at the ending of the episode? I can’t find it anywhere :(

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This OST was not released yet. The singer is Kim Sung-gyu.

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I find this episode specially touching. Every episode we go though I find her more and more real. When she said the moment us, children, became our parent's guardians is the moment we became adults, is as true as hard to accept: that the one you've been relying on and leaning on is the one you have to take care.

I'm quite sure Yi Sang is the only possible love interest of HaRi. She just has to realize how "bad" it is for her as well.

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No, Yi Sang, this is good.

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I've been wondering about the times when Ha-ri saw the adult men as childish versions: does this mean she has a hard time seeing them as adult equals? Something else?

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