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Open Thread #785

Happy Friday everyone!

Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.

 
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We know that the idol-turned-actor move is problematic and usually a rough road for the artist. Many idols have made the transition over time with training and experience. I thought the idea of idols being turned into sudden, overnight actors was over. Jang Wonyoung of the k-pop group IVE is so popular (6.3 M IG followers) that she is being offered DOZENS of k-dramas including lead roles even though she has ZERO acting experience. She is only 18 years old. She is holding post-pandemic concert events with her group and releasing new songs. She is now receiving many CF contracts. But I guess that is not enough for her agency, Starship.

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I feel like there are so. many. dramas these days that it doesn't matter if an untalented idol or pretty boy actor steals a role and ruins a drama because there are 10 other dramas to watch that I can't keep up.

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Its funny seeing Jung Ryeo-won (May It Please The Court, Wok of Love) in old clips of her from her 'Chakra' girl group days from twenty years ago. Its so incongruous.
Hyeri was of course in 'Girl's Day' and its just odd watching baby Hyeri back in 2010 singing and dancing and acting sexy.
Jang Na-ra was a soloist before she was an actress.

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oh yeah - pretty fun week. interesting week.

few month back said am gonna be in pinch -
Autumn always +ve for me but this time there had to be change
this change came into figth with - 2022 which needed to see change.

overall autumn going as it always go - and change of 2022 is also with me - i'm in better position.

Time to buy a new bed - sleeping on makeshift bed not good for your back and neck - only when you experience things, you get to learn much. not for the privileged class.

without home can be spent few days to few weeks - seems difficult. for that need a good earthquake or conflict or fight.

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wrote here in 2020 - the way to win is you become strong and other side becomes week - that's why chaos is your good friend. If you have nothing much to lose then you are done for and you don't even care but those who have much to lose do care and them becoming weak is the opportunity you seek to survive and march a front.

natural or man made - from society to economy - from fights to conflicts - from division to tolerance - things always provide you that one opportunity to score home run.

I want to score that home run - i'm not in good position all around but things are good that i've not much on stake - i can lose that won't benefit others but my jackpot can turn things overall. This is why patience is so important and inflation is cute.

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Looking forward to the first Watch and Discuss Korean Drama club on 22nd November. I have had a lot of fun choosing short dramas to watch. Everything and Nothing is a 4 episode coming of age drama looking at the struggles of parent/child relationships. We are contrasting this with a 30 minute short Two lights: Relumino about two visually impaired young adults joining a photography class.

Anyone interested in joining the discussion please see my fan page for more details.

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Any suggestions for short seasons/interesting dramas we can add to our watchlist will be gratefully received.

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You should try the KBS special dramas. The last year, Palace was great.

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I love KBS specials but I have only seen the ones from years ago because I don't know how to watch the newer ones. What platform do you watch them on?

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I watched the first two episodes last night and thought they nailed the tone and sense of displacement really well. It made me recall that age/feeling quite viscerally.

I was also delighted to recognise our leads from Still 17! So talented and still so young - can’t wait to see their careers develop even further. Thanks for starting us off with such an excellent pick!😁

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Secret children/siblings/etc keep popping up in kdramaland and I like to make snarky comments about their prevalence, so I need to make something clear. I do not have a secret father and am not a long-lost son, no matter what someone once said.

Years ago (think 1980s) I got a phone call from some some old guy who asked my name and then said he was my long-lost father. At the time my father was still alive and we were in frequent contact, so I just told the guy he wasn't my father and ended the call without asking about his story. Not sure if he was some kind of scammer or if there was some real heartbreak there. And FWIW, I resemble my real father enough so I'm sure there isn't some non-standard story in my actual parentage.

Also, I know someone (not related) who was the secret sibling. Seems there was this guy who married, had a kid, divorced, then remarried and never told his new family that the old family existed. New kids found out from his effects after he died, and got in touch.

All this in America among persons of European ancestry. So our truth can be just as makjang-y as Korean fiction, it's just that we don't obsess about it so much in our mainstream fiction. I don't watch American soaps but I guess we keep our fictional family secrets safely tucked away there where I'll never see them (??).

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My family has a sibling/child secret we’ve never quite figured out. My grandmother and her sister Leonor were the two youngest of 12 children - the eldest, Mary, was about 18 years older. Leonor was supposedly the youngest, but she and Grandma often got their story mixed up about that (especially when they’d had a drop or two) and referred to Grandma as ‘the baby of the family.’ They were laughably inconsistent about just what their age difference was, but Leonor always looked older than Grandma. They also both lied about their ages so for so long that we only had firm proof of Grandma’s birth year (1908, 3 years earlier than her driver’s license said) after she died, and we never found a birth record for Leonor. We speculate that Leonor might actually have been Aunt Mary’s out-of-wedlock child, and that after hiding the pregnancy and birth, my great-grandparents passed her off as their own child. Meanwhile, they’d had another baby of their own (Grandma) and the two babies were hard to explain unless they lied about their ages and birth order. BUT it’s also possible that it was actually Grandma who was Mary’s secret child, not Leonor - if so, the very old woman I knew in childhood as my Great-aunt Mary was actually my great-grandmother. We’ll never know.

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My grandmother talked about that being common in her day, an out of wedlock child being passed off as a surprise late in life baby and a mother and daughter being raised as siblings.

My friend does a lot of genealogy via assorted sites and has become sort of a keeper of family secrets as more than one surprise relative has contacted her for more information after receiving DNA test results.

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Not a secret sibling but a family member had a secret baby with a married woman who was not his wife - which is basically a soap opera plot and serious drama ensued when it all came out (the other husband knew before the baby was born but the wife didn’t find out until a couple of months after)….real life has plenty of makjang elements sometimes!

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I just finished watching 20th Century Girl with my daughters and while we really enjoyed the movie one thing I had to talk to them about is the issue of underage drinking (they are in high school and middle school). It doesn’t seem to be a issue in most of the kdramas for high schoolers to get totally drunk while on a trip away from their parents or adult supervision (in fact it’s seems to seen as kind of liberating and a way for the characters to lose their inhibitions). When 25/21 was airing I saw there was some controversy about the high schooler dating a high school graduate, but nothing about him getting drunk with a bunch of high schoolers? Maybe it’s just a cultural thing in Korea but since these shows are being shown on Netflix worldwide I’d think there would be some sensitivity to the issue…

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Highschool students trying to get alcohol and drink without the adults knowing, it's pretty common in a lot of countries.

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I agree that young kids wanting to try alcohol behind their parents back is a common problem in all countries but it doesn’t have to be treated as commonplace or fun in shows that young people are watching

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Movies are not there to educate but to entertain for me. It was a movie about youth and young people do that, it's all.

Young people don't need movies to do stupid things. They have enough imagination alone.

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I think it depends on the country of origin of that movie. Some countries in Europe have very strict supervision of what should and shouldn’t be on TV shows, whereas many countries such as my country in Asia almost have none. I don’t think they will change, so it depends on the supervision of the parents I think. It doesn’t mean I agree with this, what I mean is that I don’t think there will be changes about this kind of issues.

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Korea is neighbors with Russia and both are pretty extreme drinking cultures. Someone said one reality they don't show in K-dramas is having to side-step the vomit on the sidewalk as you're going to work in the morning.

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Making an earnest plea to every beanie to go watch What's Up 2011 drama. Seriously, it is SO good.

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It certainly has an impressive cast. I might check it out.

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I'm so sad they never released an OST.

Jo Jung-Suk and Kim Ji-Won's song With You was so good.

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Actually that is exactly why I was reminded of it and wrote this comment. JJS and KJW's With You came up in my Youtube suggestions!

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Where did you watch it? I've only found a low-quality version on YouTube.

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I have it downloaded on a hard drive since some years ago. Sorry I don't know where it is available now. I always forget not to recommend shows from too long ago.

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In CURTAIN CALL, Secretary Jung (Sung Dong-Il) has the connections to track down the long lost grandson in North Korea.

Secretary Jung, your next mission should you decide to accept it, please find out if and where SBS’s FIRST RESPONDERS will be available subbed in English. Episode one is scheduled to air on Nov. 11. Thank you.

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If someone wants some light, romance show, I sincerely recommend Love between Fairy and Devil. I’m on my rewatch, and it keeps getting better and better. Oh.. it’s a Cdrama.

I’m so disappointed in that I feel like new, interesting Kdramas don’t end up being streamed on Netflix now. I want to watch Curtain Call, Gaus, Youth MT, but none of these is on NF. I also really want to watch Summer Strike, and I don’t think this will be on NF either. 😔

Am I the only one who feels like there are less Kdramas on NF? What happened? Don’t people watch a lot of Kdramas these days?

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This is why I’ve kept a VIKI account. Also, you can try Amazon Prime, if you have that. Although I started out watching on NF, the majority of dramas are still on VIKI.

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I have read somewhere that VIU is like Viki in Asia. I think that might be true because Viki here doesn’t have many titles. There isn’t Curtain Call in Viki here..

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Curtaincall is on Viki US

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🥲 Do you watch it? Is it good?

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I think we all got sucked into that LBFD hole and can't come up for air to watch anything else!

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True! This is so interesting because I started this show wanting something light. I was a bit shocked by the CGI because I thought it looked cheap (but it looks better and better as time passes), but I continued and ended up loving it. The biggest plus is the adorable OTP. The story and world building are great. I think I’m very impressed by it.

Now I need some Cdrama recommendations that are on par or better than this one. Is there any? I will try Day if Becoming You later on. I can’t watch more than one show at a time.

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Absolutely - another one with a very cute OTP is You Are My Glory and Skate Into You.
The Day of Becoming You is really good and I've watched it twice!

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Thank you! 😙

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I’m finding in my region it goes in cycles - I cancelled my Viki account for a bit because there was nothing, now there’s heaps and I’ve got it back; meantime Netflix had nothing I was interested in for a while but is starting to get a few more again.

Disney+ has a few too if you’re Asia/Pacific.

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Thanks! I just cancelled my Disney + subscription because I rarely watched anything there. I wish Netflix had more to offer.. but I understand that every platform is now quite competitive and it’s sure all of them will stream at least some really good Kdramas. The problem is I can’t subscribe to all of them. 🥲

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There are quite a lot on YouTube too (especially older ones) if you don’t mind ads. There are so many services now it’s really hard to keep up!

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If you're interested in a show do a quick search on Youtube. It likely won't be there but sometimes it is. I was surprised to find full episodes of 'Gaus Electronics' uploaded. Not the highest video quality, tho.

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I am in the same boat. I have to forgo the Disney+ and Amazon Prime shows as I just can’t justify the cost. I miss the days when the subscription option wasn’t as dominant - even with music, we don’t own music anymore, it all lives in a cloud somewhere that we pay indefinitely to access.

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I'm not a big fan of music (strange, isn't it) so a good thing is that there is less expense for me. Imagine if I had been into music also.. *shudders thinking about the costs*

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We split costs with family but it’s only a matter of time before they crack down on this. I feel it’s only a matter of time before illegal streaming becomes a more appealing option for many people again.

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What am I supposed to do with my pathetic life after all my favorite shows end?
First Season of Blossom and tomorrow Gaus Electronics.

I'm not ready. NOT READY.

Btw, i'm watching High Kick and yep, koreans are vampires. PMY looks the same, I swear. And she's so pretty it's crazy.

Anyway, have a nice weekend Beanies! Love for you. XOXO

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Happy weekend Beanies and keep Beaning On!

My friend and I are taking turns sleeping over on the weekends depending on where our scheduled activities are taking place. She stayed over for the Billy Boyd convention and I visited her last weekend for some Halloween movies and shopping. The next two weekends we are repeating the whole process in order to hang out with mutual friends that live in our neighborhoods, but this weekend we are taking a breather and staying at home.🏠

Not that I will be bored, with many ingredients in the fridge and the dust in my room. I try to take care of these things on weekdays to take it easier on the weekends, but things do pile up if you are away from home more often than you are used to. In the end I will be cleaning up after the metaphorical tornado that passed through my room, after cooking and baking up another storm in the kitchen first!👩‍🍳

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Sounds like a good plan, Turtie! Baking something is always fun (minus the dish washing afterwards).

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Hello beanies...

Currently I'm watching family drama What Happens with My Family and absolutely love it! Can you recommend me more family weekend and daily drama?

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My Father is Strange.

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My Father Is Strange is a favourite; I also enjoyed Once Again (I do tend to watch on fast forward and skip to the storylines I’m interested in).

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just started watching Silent, a Jdorama with Kawaguchi Haruna -- she is so adorable. this is very sweet, about high school sweethearts that broke up and meet later under different circumstances...

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I am going to start that one soon I want to have the option to binge watch so waiting for a few more episodes to be available. So glad to hear it’s started well.

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It's really touching. I like it too.

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