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Happy Friday!!!!!
More work that I can handle but that is a good thing!!!!!
Seul has become my favorite character so far of 2011, My Princess, is so far the top of the crop MP FTW!!!!
I was reading that some people thought that the "Kiss" scene at the end of chapter seven was not a "Good" one, but what I really like about that scene was that there was no "Music" to enhance the mood, and the kiss was a good one IMHO, it was done not in the spree of the moment, but Seul even when she was drunk she was still in control of the situation is not like he took advantage of the situation since she kiss him first.
But I must say that I am a bit conflicted about kiss, because some body raise the question of whether it is appropriate to kiss some one while one party is drunk and the other is not.
I guess there is a fine line between taking advantage of somebody while that person is intoxicated, but I do not think that our main lead abuse his power when he kiss the Princess, at least it did not appear that way!!!!!
i've watched the kiss scenes so many times now with and w/o music. both works for me! So enchanted w/ this couple, still can't help squeeling with glee each time i see it. hehehe
I'd have to agree. :) I also think having the scene be silent helped to keep the viewer focused on the action - reinforced by the extreme close-ups of the leads. Then when they kissed, the camera pulled away, like we were giving them privacy. I thought that was very effective in selling how hot a kiss it was, we can't even look at it too long (though not as hot as the train station one in Coffee House, imho).
That being said, I hate Hae Young this week; no, LOATHE him. Did not know I could have that level of fury at a drama lead. I was completely enraged by his actions, even if I get them, but he made her cry and got her mom to turn against her. That's not cold - that's arctic. I also wished she had clocked him but good, or even nicked him with a carving knife (I'm a bit bloodthirsty, lol). Those little poundings she gave him didn't seem to be enough for the level of harm he inflicted on her. Making me lose my only family? Yeah, even if I stole your fortune, there's no right. I wanted to deck him so bad. I know I will go back to loving him soon, but if I were there...he'd be laid out flat on the ground. Just saying.
i thought the silence worked well in that scene. also, given how badly the show has been using their scores so far (e.g. daddy-hit-by-car + light/sweet BGM=WTF ) i was glad they didn't add any music to it.
What I have been reading is people complaining how there is no emotional buildup to the kiss scene, and my face is just like, ....... REALLY?? WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN WATCHING???
It's been building up since episode 1. It's only appropriate that they kiss now. Because in this moment, Haeyoung, I guess takes advantage of the fact that Seol is drunk, to let go of all the walls he's built up in front of his wall, because he knows it is wrong for him to be showing her his feelings, etc. This is the one moment that Haeyoung lets down his guard and just goes with his feeling. And then you get the beginnings of angst galore, etc.
But really... NO BUILDUP??? Idk, I totally saw it coming.
what really ruined it for me (though not totally) is the lean-to-kiss multiple replay like it's some awesome action sequence. they do that when they flip cars in chases. in this case, I was one the one flippin'. :(
did not like that one, too...much better if they panned out but still up close or like a 360 degree view on the two, how do u call it? but when the camera pulled away to give a full view of the two of them on the stairs...seems like a nice touch.
much better if they panned out but still up close or like a 360 degree view on the two, how do u call it
that's called "trying to make the cameraman trip on the stairs." :) just kidding. Yeah, the 360. That would be a good treatment of the scene before the zoom out. You get a good look at the actors' emotions that way. And it is a better way of prolonging the kissing scene rather than the multi-lean-over-replay which makes you wanna scream "kiss already!" than gasping for the suspense.
haha! was thinking of the cameraman tripping in the stairs, too, hehe. difficult shot to maneuver, i guess ;-) but that would have made the scene more fluid and not as jarring as how they've done it ;-) blame the stairs, i guess ;-)
the kiss, i felt like the build had definitely been there, and in that sense it had been a long time coming (well, as long as you can feel 7 episodes in LOL)--- so i think it really would've happened drunk or not. they were both pretty much gunning for it. ......although you wouldn't have been able to tell, gven how dispassionate it came off looking in the final cut. O_O ..i was like, really? that's the result of your zekshual tenshun?!?! that's IT?!!
I think to me the "Silent" represented the "Calm Before The Storm", specially for our main lead since there was a reason why he took Seul away from the castle, but overall I really like the kiss, I think it fits whit in the chaotic story line of conflicted interest, the ones that want the Monarchy and those who don't!!!
ooh, i like the way you read that bit-- the manifestation of their conflicted interest would indeed be mirrored by a random and chaotic insertion of a kiss in the middle of all the hoopla they're currently engaged in (wow, can you tell i'm drafting my thesis. what's with the academic jargon, huh?well-- i think "hoopla" balanced it out nicely LOL)
happy friday everyone! i hope my friday can be just as happy but i've spent the whole day worrying about the egyptian people. i've gone there more than ten times since i was a kid; almost every summer since i was eight. and from everything i saw, even in my grandma's house, i never knew over 50% of the egyptians earned less than 2 USD per day. now the egyptian people are fighting for their freedom and the corrupt govt cut off most of the country's phone, mobile, & internet services to stop the spread of protest. my dad's family lives in alexandria..=,( i can't seem to bring myself to watch mp to calm my nerves. i'm so worried.=( please pray for the safety of the egyptian people!=,( tnx..
oh my god... i just read the news..I can't imagine how hard it is living without any form of communication and freedom. I hope there no more violence..
I hope your family is all well... and I pray for the Egyptian..
if any consolation, we had terrible things happened in indonesia, but sometimes the news make it much worse than it really is. hoepfully that's the case here as well. hang in there!
I feel for you... praying for the Egyptians, and for all those experiencing turmoil and protest in the Middle East. May God keep your family members safe.
Praying for you, your family and the ppl of Egypt....hang in there, brave knight....these are dark times indeed, but be strong for your family....*bear hug*
Hello everyone!
It is so nice and cozy here on the thread.
I have a K-drama clothes question.
Why why why do they go to bed fully clothed, jeweled and hair still up?
Am I supposed to believe that they have not completely ruined their $3000. suit, gouged their scalps from the hair pins, and awoke with imprints on their necks from diamond
earrings and necklaces?
Is it because we cannot even imagine them with their clothes off for one second before putting pjs on? Is it because there just isn't anywhere for them to change?
Why can't we see them walking into another room with clothes on and then a quick cut to them in PJs crawling into bed?
I started of list of drams that this happend in, but gave up, since it is in every single one...
Haha YES! Complete with helmet of plastic hair that comes on and off in one piece (this is why we can't see her getting reacy for bed, it would be scarring to see her round head with a single peg on top).
Hello all,
I've only started posting in the recaps for SG and MP recently, but as my kdrama addiction is escalating it's been great to come here and learn I'm not the only one who is afflicted : )
As for the pyjamas: I think it was only in The Woman Who Still Wants to Marry where I spotted a main character wearing PJs. Can't think of any other instances.
MNKSS. Sam Soon wears pajamas a lot. But she's, y'know, Sam Soonish. :) I can't think of a scene where Sam Shik wears pjs though. Actually let's not talk about Hyun Bin's wardrobe in that drama. I'm currently rewatching it, and as much as I love the show, OMG his outfits are so cringeworthy.
That's one thing about Kdrama: it's the male leads who are more likely to look back at themselves in five years time and think, 'was I conscious when I agreed to wear that?'
But I'm more upset with the "Strangled by the Red String" trope in most kdramas. Basically, you have two pretty people together who have NOTHING in common, except for their "love" or whatever for each other. Ok. But what do they talk about when they're not talking about their opposing parents? What?
What bothers me about this is that during shipping wars, people start bringing up the whole, "they are too similar" crap like that's a bad thing. Of course, you don't want a clone but surely someone with similar interests or sensibilities or even backgrounds is not a bad thing at all. In fact, it's often the key to a successful relationship.
yeh, i was surprised how tidy Seol looked (esp her hair) after she woke up after drinking herself silly the previous night. And the headband!! she always sleeps with it on. i tried to ignore it but it's just so distracting, i keep thinking: man, isn't that uncomfortable?
Oh it's a beautiful Friday ... I have to work 16 hours, but there are worse fates than having a job that pays me to stay at home and watch my children with love....
LOL, you mean, little stalkers, right? Sadly, two trips to Wally World and Dillard's, no hot males of the Korean persuasion .... but I did see a cute Desi mix, about six, I think ...
OOOhhh!! Cute desi mix? Were any of them doctors?. . . . . . . . . . *appalled silence* *smacks self* I have been hanging out with my mom too much!! That is Exactly the followup question she asks anytime there is mention of anyone of the male persuasion. :P
lol lol .... he'll have to grow up, first, and I couldn't tell from Mom and Grandma what profession the Husband/Son was in, but he did make money judging from the quality of fabric on their clothing.
hello, ladies and (very few) gentlemen! (any gentlemen hiding out there?:P )
happy happy friday. although i'm stuck at home writing a draft of my thesis, i still sneak in a little time to indulge my (latest) falling prey to the Second Lead Syndrome (AGAIN!) !!!!!
i love you, Jungwoo!!! even with your Indiana-jones-in-the-city outfits.... all i need is your smile, and my day is totally made!!! :D :D :D
apart from you, however, i must admit, im liking the seol-HY pairing, because i think none of them think it can actually work out, and it makes them very cavalier about revealing their true feelings. like a really twisted version of doing whatever the hell you want because there will be no real-world consequences for your actions. DUN DUN DUN-- can you believe He Young actually TOLD Seol that he was one of the things she was giving up by being a princess? it's so tantamount to actually saying, "you have me. that's not the issue here. YES i like you, and you like me, I KNOW. "!!!! oh, the angst! that line kills me!
i can't wait until they figure out that it CAN happen, and THEN i'm so totally there for the ensuing passive aggressive courtship. ....well, i think that's pretty much where we are now, eh? :P
also-- my heart's kind of confused about rooting for Hyemi-Jingook or Hyemi-Samdong, but i know one thing for sure---- SUSHI AND CHIPMUNK FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
i wonder how her confession will go next week?!?! can't waaaait! is it next week yet??
and REALLY REALLY OT-- but did anyone catch the latest epi of Bones??? THAT LAST LOOK OF BOOTH TO BRENNAN KILLED ME!!!!!! AAAH!!! <3 <3 <3 knew it! .....the days of B<3B are upon us!!!! :D
Too much Hannah recently.... but that last look does soothe me quite a bit.. it's like the writer make her looks so nice to make the viewer like her but it's just make it looks like to a fake personality... Argh! Why are they so afraid to make B&B a couple? So many things to write about :(
I actually like Hannah but I can't understand why Booth would date her and vice versa. There is no chemistry between them.
the Bones x Booth thing is like a catch-22 for me. I'm super frustrated that they're not together, but once they get together, there's no longer the sizzle of being-close-but-not-close-enough. There was this really popular show in the 1980s -Moonlighting- with the will-they-won't-they sexual tension and after the characters consummated their relationship, popularity declined.
Anyways, the HY and Seol pairing does remind me a bit of Booth and Bones. Both make great lovers (when we get them there), but both will also make great friends and it's that extra layer that makes me like the Seol x HY pairing (though I'm pissed at HY this week
Jung-woo makes me smile like moron and act just like Seol when she's crushing on him.
gosh! I too took a break from thesis writing to watch MP and BONES!!.. ahh.. my heart break for her in the 9th epi.. but how booth look at her at epi 10 is more heartbreaking!! gah.. i think i'm some kind of a massocist.. enjoying heartbreaks.. hahahaha
Yes! I can't take side either when it comes to HM-JG or HM-SD pairing. All signs kinda point towards HM-JG pairing, what with the childhood memories, deeper connection, and it seems that HM will fall for JG in episode 8. And usually, when the main girl falls, she falls HARD & could nvr seems to have a change of heart Buuuttt I still can't watch a heartbroken SD. Can we just clone HM to keep those two boys happy??
Hi, I'm knew to the thread, and only k-drama addict for a few months, but its really hit me hard...I've been reading the thread for awhile, though (longtime fan, first time caller-well almost)...ANYWAY, I've been having an argument w/ my housemate regarding the Booth, Brennan, Hannah relationship for awhile. I really like Hannah, and I think the story needs a slow Brennan-Booth rebuild...because of her, but also to keep the story going, since when they get together there will be no more FBI partnership and ipso facto no more show, which would be...bad. For me anyway...
As to Hye-mi: that girl is clueless. Sushi-Chipmunk fighting, though. I particularly want her to win lots, and find a spine. Same for SD and JS--but they are all in high school, so they really just need to survive w/o horrendous scars and solid friendships, that would make me so happy.
welcome welcome! i have more things to say, except i'm horibly drunk, typing this and checking dramabeans after a really crazy night. just wanted to say--- thanks for delurking!!! welcome! :D
Say what? I already got sick of the Bones/Booth will they/will they not so I stopped watching the show. But if they are FINALLY getting together, then I'm going to watch the last episode this weekend.
Me too! I got frustrated and quit at the beginning of the third season. That's one of the negatives about the long-running american tv shows, they have to keep the main couple apart until the end (usually) and they don't know when that will be, so they keep dragging it on, introducing more obstacles/rivals/issues, until finally you're wondering what on earth brought them together in the first place.
I am adoring Dream High. I am still rooting for Baek Hee as a redeemable character. And...with HyeMi...both guys seem to work well with her. It'll be interesting who they eventually pair her off with.
I am also rooting for Baek Hee to have some kind of redemption! I really don't want her to turn out to just be this villain who can't see what she's doing wrong.
I think Baek Hee will. She's already so tortured by her actions. I think there will be a moment of redemption. She's not a bad person, she's just so beaten down that she'll do anything to prove that she's up to snuff.
I think more than beaten down, she's easily influenced, escpecially when she's feeling vulnerable. She is a follower, so when she lost Hye-mi as a compass she turned to her teacher, who advised her basically that she has to become a ruthless bitch to survive. Not... the best advice to give a teenager.
I hope she grows a backbone and does something to redeem herself, even if her friendship with Hye-mi is unsalvageable.
That teacher is srsly psycho. I love Dream High to bits, but I would NOT want to attend. It's a battle zone, with murder attempts left right and centre!!
That bugged me so much as well!!! It's like all drama characters are vampires that don't need to move/breathe/be comfortable when asleep.
Is it that hard to include pyjamas in their wardrobe? If we can live through shower scenes and naked walk-ins, we can live through changes of wardrobe.
Actually, there is in My Girl, when Seo Hyun is contemplating her lost love and his new 'cousin' .... episode 4 or 5, I think, my son will know when he gets off the Wii.
awwww. Your kids are probably the most adorable things on the planet!! Please ask him whether he would consider being my little brother, the current one I have has no interest in K dramas. :(
Okay, here's my plan. Sunday afternoon I'm "free" for a few hours and I WILL figure out the digital camera and get the Taekyung hair on disc before he outgrows the phase ... wait, it's been six months or more, is he going to outgrow it???
whoa, MP8 had 6 minutes of recaps in the beginning! did the writer run out of new ideas to fill up the extra minutes? i couldn't understand HY in episode 8: "return to me"; "I will marry her"; "You're beautiful". what in heaven's name are you getting at dear HY?
i found the kiss sweet. ain't it realistic that there were no background music? looking forward to the next one : )
I think the playback was sort of filler because I heard they shot Ep 8 just this week (around Mon or Tues) and I don't think they're done filming Ep 9 hence, no preview.
Looks like we're going to being seeing a lot of exhausted actors as they try to play catch-up ....
once again, I HATE this part of the Korean entertainment industry. Just a month's extra filming before air dates would give them what they need. Heck, a few weeks would be a boon, too.
Top that off with the whole fatal illness he's bound to have and he's going to break MY heart shortly. I have a feeling our writer's going to torture the poor guy :(
hello kdramaworld can i just vent my angst here , it like im living in kdrama land these days , well you know the protagonist and the bitch and the people around , i feel like seol of my princess , i like her a lot and i like the drama , but i dont want her situation , what i mean is you are surrounded by people you know or not know if they are enemies or friends but cant afford to be without there company hmmm complicated life haisttttt............
Its like you look around at all the guys around you and you think...why isnt there anyone even remotely as cute as Yoo Ah In....Its nothing short of depressing...WHY SO CUTE?
Yes, you are right about the antidote to combat the Second Lead Syndrome not going commercial. Initially, we projected enormous returns, but our finance department underestimated the fervency of the fangirls, especially those affected by the JSV or Jae Shin Virus. *carefully Does Not look at Izzie*
They absolutely refused to take their meds, and almost rioted. Who am I kidding? Forget almost, the rioted full scale. Mothers and ahjumas, halmonims and young girls took to the streets, to demonstrate. They refused to go to work or school, and there were fights over conflicting claims of "Mine."
With civilization on the brink of collapse, we regretfuly had to pull our product from the market. *sigh* And we spent so much money on R&D too. :(
Viola, I am so relieved you have come back to us after "what happend" to you and Jae Shin.
I read that you tried to tell him he could see other, um, people, and he almost completely lost it. I know you were trying not to get between him and Yong Ha, but, really, you broke his heart.
You have to stay strong for him, now. If you can only endure looking into his eyes night after night, and touching his wild mane. Just let him stay with you. Your sacrifice is for the best.
While it is may be my curse to be all things to all men, there is only One man who is all things to me. That man is Siwon. I am completely and utterly faithful to him!!
I don't know what you have heard Jomo, but I never had any dealings with Jae Shin! I don't know where all these rumors are coming from?! Philip lee, Mr Hand Towel, Jang Seok ahjussi, and now Moony? Why am I being involved with all these men?!
"You have to stay strong for him, now. If you can only endure looking into his eyes night after night, and touching his wild mane. Just let him stay with you. Your sacrifice is for the best."
Are you trying to get me killed, woman?! *looks around in fear* You know the Jae Shin virus is particularly virulent, and it turns the infected into zombies who are very possessive! They might come after me! That's not even mentioning The Young Ha! I am afraid to even contemplate what he might do to me for even being connected to his true love!
I am here to set the record straight: I have always been on the Yummy/Moony True Love Bus. I like Moony, but we are just very good friends, and he is my admired and respected sunbae. ;)
@Jomo
I think I heard of some girls survived about 6 days after claiming Moony. But off course she was living in Antarctica at the time! :P
No need for apologies my darling Jomo, it's a natural misunderstanding. I will say again, Jae Shin and I are just very good friends. ;)
@LW
I was always a Yummy girl myself. Ockoala came up with the name "Moony" and she helped me to come up with "Yummy" And I am glad there is no better way to track one person's comment on DB!! Considering the things I write here; kidnappings, world domination, larceny, ....:( Oh well, at least the future black mailers would have to shift through all the posts on the OT threads to find everyhting! :P
Happy Friday Beanie Family! Oh man, all I have to do is survive 6 hours of work today. *sigh* At least it's not a full day. Anyways, haven't started watching any of the 2011 dramas yet, although Dream High is definitely on my to watch list, for now the recaps will do until I'm ready to sit down and have a full on marathon. I might follow Paradise Ranch if there won't be any further recaps because I need to know about those darn kids and whatever the hell happened that caused them to split.
Anyways, I've really gotten myself into trouble with Qualifications of a Man (Q of Men?) because I got hooked and I'm trying not to watch all the episodes I can get my hands on in one go. Like any variety show, it takes getting used to. Once you do, you fall in love with the cast and their oddities. HAHAHA. Sometimes you get tired with how repetitive some episodes are because sometimes you hear the same thing (as in the Choir/Harmony and the Band mission). But in the end, you laugh, you cheer them on, and you even cry for the ups and downs, and the sad goodbyes. Hopefully, With JJ down with Runaway: Plan B, we can see more from him and hopefully he will have a chance to really develop a character for the show, especially since they are one man down (let that be a lesson kids, drugs will ruin you). I will be catching up with Strong Heart soon enough because I hear it is really good, but right now I'm way behind on 1N2D, and it's sad that that show too lost one cast and has had (or will?) have to say good bye to another one of their own. Why is it I've become more of a variety show addict than a drama addict? Because Running Man is also another one I enjoy (thank you isubs for your hard work) and I can't wait until episode 26 is subbed, when they go to manhwa land and dress up. Soooooo cute with Bo Kyung as guest.
Well, off to work. Take care dear Beanies. HWAITING jb and fri!
I've also become a kvariety junkie, Ani. Last year I only saw 5 or 6 complete k-dramas (having watched 130+ dramas in the previous 4 years). Instead, i watched all 100+ episodes of Family Outing seasons 1 and 2, plus the shows you mentioned and more.
My favorite new variety program is 100 Out of 100 aka Oh! My School.
Oh man! I loved Family Outing. I got mad when Park Yejin and Chunderella left. They were among my favorites. It just wasn't the same without them. The Parks didn't bring much to the placte after a while. *sigh* Good times. I always thought FO2 was a total fail, although Seungril (I forgot his name) and the comedian girl with the major crush on KJK and Oska were AWESOME. But good to know I'm not alone. HAHAHA. I'll definitely look into 100 out of 100. XD
Woo-hoo! TGIF! Gonna go back to my hometown tomorrow and do nothing but k-dramathoning with my bestie.
Am loving My Princess & Dream High at the moment. Slow internet connection didn't managed to stop me from staying in the loop. I offered to keep my friend company in her office while she's working overtime so that I can watch the episodes from youtube in her IPHONE -mine is blackberry & there's additional charges for streaming. Am missing the High Def file for ultimate viewing, but for now small iphone screen size would be sufficient to alleviate those withdraws...
Jeez, started on 'East of Eden' days ago. The childhood story was great, Kim Bum also was great. But, when he grew up to be SSH *sigh* everybody seems to act well accept him, lol.
I love his two brothers tho, they acted well. But the story mehhhhh, his mom screamed at her sons all the time. I couldn't connect with SSH and he even got the AWARD!
Phew! gotta rant somewhere. 56eps and I was like fast forward most of the time.
I just realize I have no love for makjang at all, they tend to make tearjerker scene with no reason. -_-!!
SSH does so much better with comedy. He should've gone down the road of comedy years ago. But instead they kept putting him in the super dramatic stuff.
And, yes, I will bring up THE. HEAD. TILT. thing that SSH does to emote, which he did all the time especially in East of Eden, anger and frustration scenes. Yeah. Hate it. Still hate it.
Also, since you reminded me of East of Eden yet again, I am STILL flaming PISSED how they threw away Lee Dahae, this PERFECT PLOT PIECE AND CHARACTER to give way to the STUPID love story between SSH and Lee Yeonhee that I thought was childish bla bla bla I HATED IT.
I challenge you to go 2 theads without mentioning the head tilt.
Oh! And you can't thesaurusize yourself out of this.
No:
Slope, slant,angle,gradient,incline,tip,lean,pitch
or any other allusions to tilting.
Other examples of taboos:
"Is the room crooked, or is it SSH's head?"
"Someone fix that hat on SSH; its evenness doesn't match his head."
MWAHAHA! samgetang, sister. because of you, the way I look at SSH will never be the same. :D
he deserves a monument, indeed! :D I say put his statue in the palace grounds, in the middle of a fountain. although... deciding on where the water would come out of the fountain could be a design challenge.
As a relatively new kdrama fan, I have to ask: Is Korean society *really* so extremely prudish when it comes to nakedness, kissing, touching and sex?
Kdramas seem to suggest that a couple is expected to barely hold hands until they're safely married. Sometimes couples that have been together for years seem to do nothing more than give each other a quick peck on the cheek from time to time.
And nakedness is evidently such a huge thing, almost like Victorian England; even divorced women are shocked at seeing a guy's bare chest, or even shoulder - even her own boyfriend's!
Someone who asks for a kiss is immediatelycalled a pervert... in fact pretty much everyone is called a pervert unless they are completely sexless.
I agree with you
Another question Do families actually stand in the face of marriage for reasons such as education or family background .. Such as the Middle Ages
Yes, that too! And is being a widower or a widow (or an orphan) really such a horrible thing that it will make a family oppose the marriage with the widower in question?
I don't know about korea. But Yes, parents have a lot of say in marriage in Asian Society. Religion, Social Status, Education Background............. the list goes on. And if you are not married by late 20's... "sigh"
I am from South Asia. And trust me i have seen so many couple breaking up due to family pressure. But some do defy the tradition like a typical K drama : )
P.S I would never choose a guy over my family either. It is considered bad luck.
Ehm...my friend had to finish another degree the future MIL liked before she could marry her precious prestigious overseas educated son (not my words).
3 daughters later....no forgiveness for not having sons.
Actually, they kinda do. I can't speak for Korea or other Asian countries outside of India, but there are countries in which this is common. Marriage is a family affair for a lot of people (I'm not saying all), and arranged marriages are not out of the norm either. Also, in India, being a widow (or divorced) basically means you're a widow for life, especially if you've been married for quite sometime. There are definitely exceptions, and things are changing, but its still "taboo" to have more than one marriage.
I think these TV shows do not represent real life in K.
These things happen in most "classic" romance.
What I mean by that is there are certain rules you have to follow in order to maintain the interest and keep the audience.
Did you know that the Rules of Romance include
1..The first man the heroine meets is the one she ends up with.
2..No kissing until the last page.
I love to use The Office as an example of why Rules of Romance exist. When Jim and Pam were NOT a couple, the show was at its best. When they fell in love and everyone knew, I lost interest.
ummm it depends on the cultures of each country or even state really....I'm Indian and we do share the same 'ideals' as the korean...maybe even stricter....its just that everyone from our culture sticks to it...and religiously follows these ideals... so when ur born into and brought up in such a situation where 'skinship'[as they call it in korea] is minimal...you tend to follow it as well.
When your from a more western culture.....you might find it odd and even irritating that it takes so LONG to move forward in a relationship....but thats just how it is.....its a big step for us...when it might be even irrelevant to you'll.
Eg Holding hands!
Kdramas are heavily "censored" by the Korean government. Note the current government policy of promoting birthrates, so it seems that every woman of child-bearing age is now getting pregnant on kdramas. To get a more realistic view of korean society, please watch korean movies which are not nearly as censored.
First of all, someone mentioned Korean censorship. That is definitely very very strong here, so very little skinship is seen on TV at all. But I don't think the barely hold hands thing is valid anymore, I feel? That's a little extreme.. and I haven't seen dramas imply things like that for a while.....
Second of all, Asian culture is very conservative in nature. You need to understand that this conservative culture has been put in place by Confucian values, etc.
Yes, families put great thought into marriage. In Asian culture, the family is everything. That is why a lot of couples ultimately do not stand in the face of opposing families, because that is just an Asian value or a Confucian value. The divorcee or widow is because it represents that the woman isn't pure - I know, it is rather chauvenistic, but also I feel like in China, being a divorcee or a widow, especially with a child, means that the man himself will not be able to have his own child, you know?
Anyway I'm sort of having a brain fart today so nothing's coming out very coherently today. But this is some of the reason behind this. Asian culture is heavily rooted in Confucian values and that is not going to change even with modernization, etc.
Although, that rule only applies to the main couple in their relationship with each other. It seems that in many dramas (not just Asian dramas) the male is often enjoying a steady stream of women until he meets the lead female, with whom he proceeds with caution. And, of course, he always had a sexual relationship with the ex who he pines over.
I can't speak to the social convention of it, but dramatically speaking there's no tension when everyone gets what they want right away.
"...there’s no tension when everyone gets what they want right away."
that's why it is called tension :-) there is a source of stress or sign of struggle...without which there is no drama, anticipation, excitement, reason for being, goal, etc...
if everyone got what they wanted at first episode, then there is no more story to tell.
i remember the quintessential romance novel, pride and prejudice, our lovely liz and brooding darcy...they got to 'fess up only towards the end and they did not even get to kiss (in the latest film adaptation starring hunk matthew and sexy kiera, the kiss was even added only in the US version of the film only as an afterthought ;-)
but this story stood through the test of time, became the yardstick by which all other rom novels are measured and darcy, well he became female-dom's ideal man :-) .
which brings us back to the tension. i think that's why kdramas are hugely popular now. the moment they go the western way of easy-to-get, quick-fix solutions to life...then it would be downhill for them, too.
same applies in real life, i guess. we tire easily on things we did not take much effort to attain or build. beautiful things especially relationships take some time to unfold....we love the waiting time, yeah! :-)
"if everyone got what they wanted at first episode, then there is no more story to tell."
-that's what I was trying to say, but not as well. :) I was pointing out that the tension is the story.
The tension is what I like about K-dramas. Some of the (in dramas at least) social conventions mirror P&P era England, and so the stories play out the same. Those "rules" are needed to keep the tension. There's of course the internal conflict keeping a couple apart (where they hate each other, or think they do) and the external conflict, like parental opposition, socioeconomic disparity (the rich can't marry the poor), meddling exes, etc. In a 16+ episode drama, you need a healthy mix of those factors. So.....wait, what am I talking about now?
oh, and LOVED Matthew MacFadyan as Darcy, but I always skip the kiss at the end. A post-tension kiss is sort of wasteful. Plus, I don't like to think of MM kissing anyone else.
The tension is THE story. I'd say a definite YES on that.
Even in real life, we need a good amount of stress, the good kind, which is called EUSTRESS. This is when we aim for a goal and stretch our hearts, minds and bodies to its very limits to attain that goal, like in our work, in sports, or academics, or maybe searching and discovering something that would be beneficial to ppl or the society. The bad kind of stress is called DISTRESS. This is when there is depression, loss of hope, too much stress resulting to breakdown of mental, emotional and physical functions. In kdrama, a healthy dose of makjang with positive response from the lead actors is great and necessary. But too much negative, where everyone is just crying their hearts out at every turn and for no good reason and no solution is in sight, is just plain distressing. We dont need the drama if it will not make the characters a better person in the end. Redeeming value is important to legitimize the extent of the heavy drama that we can tolerate, hehe. In most kdramas I find that there is heart and soul...healthy eustress I would consider. In many western tv or films, this is already lacking. Just technology sometimes and fluff that is not healthy at all, like too much sex, no rules and pluralism. sad.
P&P stood the test of time because the rules are still there, as you mentioned. the sensibilities are intact. human dignity is given importance.
and yes, i love Matthew, too. ;-) agree, the kiss is not necessary. the one in my imagination was way way better, haha!
I'm sure it's just kdrama conventions and partly because the broadcast stations do try to push some social agenda on how people should *ideally* be like, especially in romantic comedies that may be watched by younger people. But then how else are actresses/wives of actors able to get pregnant before they even walk down the aisle?
korean movies are a whole other thing. I am positive I saw an actor's naked white butt before in a korean movie.
Well I think that in terms of k-dramas and t.v. shows skinship is rare and when it does happen it's a BIG deal!! But k-movies are a whole other ball game, some of them are as normal as U.S movies (if get what I mean)
Happy Friday the residents of K-Drama Lala Land..
it's been a wet friday, raining almost all day.... so many friends call in sick by the flue or cold.
hope that you all healthy!!
anyway, anybody watched paradise ranch? It might be the first flop of 2011, but I'm thinking of giving it a try, any opinions?
So--I need a little help... I totally lost steam on Secret Garden around episode 14 and still haven't finished it.
Now, I am filled with apprehension that all the awesome might be gone, now that the glare from all those sparkles has worn off. :-/
It doesn't help that I always skim through the recaps (because I'm intensely curious but hate spoilers) and Ra-im's tearstained face is so oft present in the episodes to come.
NOOOOO Continue watching!!!! I admit it did get slow right at where you've stopped....or no actually even before that...but just WATCH IT....beyond all those tears theres still a bit a cute and even Humour~! WATCH IT WATCH IT WATCH IT!!!!
If you want you can read the episode that put you to sleep and then watch only the ones that look interesting~!
I second this, you should definetly watch it until the end, sometimes recaps just don't do justice to episodes, and once you watch it you will see why this drama was so popular (actually still is)!!!!!!!!
The one things that's been bothering me a lot about Dream High is why are they freezing the actors?
Is not one else distracted by how you can always see their breath? I know they may be shooting in an open set, but it makes it less believable when you can see the breaths of students supposedly in an expensive indoor school.
You'd think that with all these pop idols and movie stars involved, they'd at least bother to construct an indoor set or set up some heaters, etc.
Supposedly heaters are too noisy or something. T_T I always see BTS with actors who are in massive coats but they're wearing only a few layers onset. I forget how cold it gets in Korea!
If heaters are too noisy they should bring in radiant ones that don't have fans. Or those braziers that they have at outdoor weddings. I find the icy breaths disturbing too, to the point I can't concentrate on what's actually happening in the drama - I just start worrying about the actors!
I worry about them too, especially when their breath-clouds get huge. It was below freezing in the city where I live this week that I was wearing 2 layers of everything underneath my huge puffy coat and some of my breath clouds were as big as some of the actors. And omg, those girls are wearing skirts! I wonder how the heating system works in South Korea. My school is perfectly able to stay reasonably warm without loud radiator fan noises.
I wonder if some actors deliberately lose weight before shooting a winter drama so they can wear 2 layers of clothing without looking bulky.
I heard they would put Ice in their mouth before shooting a scene so their breath is not as warm as it is...but it doesn't really hold for very long....and besides ICE inside your mouth in that freezing weather is just inhumane!
This made me smile :) HOW do you notice something like that? Everyone else is stressing over Second Lead Syndrome and you notice that Hye Mi looks a bit cold :P
No Sign lovers here? I have to admit I absolutely love My Princess so far, but I love Sign equally much! I'd be so torn if I had to choose between which one to watch on Wednesdays and Thursdays!
Yes definitely! episodes 5 and 6 were the clinchers for me! I'm hoping it stays just as good all the way to the end, I haven't seen 7 and 8 yet, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed!
I had dropped MP in favour of Sign. If you can get past episode 1 and the male lead, it is very interesting. Good pace and storyline. It is nice to watch a drama with no eye-candy and idols-just average looks like regular people and solid acting.
Hey! so apparently theres 2 more eps of Secret Garden coming out~?! WHAT are they gonna show??? I reaally liked the drama and i would love to see more...but the last episode just ENDED IT.....like married-with-3-kids-and-all ENDED IT!!! anyway im looking forward to that!!
I wanna start dream high and my princess...but i dun really like waiting for the episodes every week.....Should start or no?
@DramaBeans : PLEASE Open a facebook page or twitter account......I wanna spread the love!
Just start a facebook fanpage for the site. I'll join fo sho! I actually thought of starting it myself but didn't know if anyone would actually join or the owners of the site would be ok with it.
I'm pretty sure javabeans has her own twitter account already.
Yes!!!I wan't more, more,moooore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think these two episodes will be more like the special episode. I am just hoping they show more NG's, some scenes on the dinner party, and hopefully the whole SG teams reunites to give us more insights of what happened during shooting.
I heard something funny this morning, apparently the calcium pill "Oskal 500D" rose to popularity and saw sales increase thanks to being mentioned a couple of times on the drama. Compare to other companies which paid stagering amounts of money to have an ad slot, they did not spend a single penny on Product Placement and just got lucky, and this I find funny for some reason.
I love everything about Dream High! I adore the beautiful cinematography (the atmospheric mood lighting style really draws me in), the realistic dialogues, the adorably flawed characters, the tight pacing, the energy, the cohesive intelligent writing, the OST and most of all the beautiful insight to the human condition.
When this drama ends there will still be one question that will resonate within you-" what is your dream?" It is Dream High's ability to throw back that question to a wide spectrum and types of viewers that makes it so unforgettable and successful in terms of impact. It may be a drama about high school idol wannabes but it transcends the teenybopper market. Haven't seen a drama as inspiring as Dream High for a long, long time.
It makes You are Beautiful look like kindergarten.
That's what I've been wondering about, and what has stopped me from giving this drama a go. Glee is about as much teenage angst as I can handle right now.
GLEEEEEEEEEEE :D <3
Musical teenage angst shows are the best, clearly :)
And now, I'd never tell any of my friends (non-kdrama-addicts, obviously) this, so shh...
But Dream High's better. Give it a shot, c'mon.
I will, eventually - I can only handle one live drama at a time, and I'm still recovering from SG (it was my first live one. Guess I jumped in at the deep end).
I'm currently keeping up with Dream High, My Princess and Paradise Ranch (though I'm still trying to bring myself to watch the second ep after the just so-so start).
And I think I'm addicted to Dream High. Why why why did they have to show the preview for Episode 8 at the end of Episode 7, it's just making me more anxious for it. I'm re-watching clips of the performances from Episode 7, to hopefully successfully keep me from going insane (LOVE THE PIL-SOOK/JASON/JIN-GOOK/BAEKHEE ONE).
Doesn't the suspense just kill you?!!
I miss the days when I didn't watch shows as they were being aired - watching marathons may be bad for your school marks, but it's a lot better for your heart!!
Am I the only person who's constantly replayed that performance in ep 7 with Jason, Pil Sook, Baek Hee and Jin Guk? I'm mainly doing it for Jason/Pil Sook because they look adorable together and I love how they redid the song.
I am so confuse about My princess
ep 7. he wants to have her as simple girl instead of being princess. because of her he lost his father and fortune. But they do have feeling for each other
is that why he said to her that let go being pricess
and come back with her family and to him??????
That line he said confused me as well, i was like "wth"
She's never been his so it's like he was saying "Stop being a princess & we can be lovers" this is not something he could trade or something but i just can't hate him, he's too cute to be evil :D
I understood it as HIS issue of wanting her to stop and MAYBE she would be with him. He has never really had her.
The words kinduv slipped out against his will.
Which is why Seul was so shocked after he said it, and he had to do the door lean.
door lean [n. compound] A Kdrama phenomenon which occurs after the lead character admits a supressed truth. The force of the words leaving the body drives the hero back, and he is unable to support himself without the aid of a sold surface.
Cool! Im amazed with how the Korean wave has reached out far and wide in all parts of the world. Not surprising though. Been to Korea and had a glimpse of their culture and history. It's steeped in sacrifice and love for their country -- that's why their stories have depth of character, heart and soul... even the fluffy, sweet varieties like MP. You can always get something you can chew your teeth on.
I checked out New Gisaeng Story on a whim the other day.. It's interesting, but a bit slow and a bit odd and I really don't know how I feel about it.
Oddly, I'm already completely on board with the main couple even though they've barely interacted and the guy's kind of an ass (but so very pretty) and I can't stop staring at the main girl's plastic nose. And the extreme number of rookie actors is completely throwing me off because I'm so used to recognizing people left and right. (There are a few people I recognize, like Dae-woong's friend from MGIAG and Yeohwa's father from King Geunchogo.)
There's some makjang nonsense already -- one of the girls has THREE mothers and only knows about one, and the main couple are from polar opposite ends of the class spectrum -- that might get annoying, but I plan on continuing to watch at least into this coming weekend. I dunno how long it'll hold my attention, though.
Happy Friday! I've been meaning to check it out but I need to finish CitC first (TODAY) before I start a new one. I've been putting it off for a while now.. and I think endodo4ever already finished it last night.
Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssss finish CitC! It's so goooooooooood~ ♥
It'd be fun if you could watch with me~~ :D It doesn't sound like any of our posse's gonna give it a shot, which is fine 'cause I don't know if it would appeal to them. But I watched the entirety of Daddy's Girl even while knowing it was awful, so obviously I have a lower threshold than they do. XD
Whut? I'm not the only one on the planet watching this? Niceness.
I'm liking the show, I'm liking it a lot, but not loving it.
I'm on-board with the couple too. I feel they have chemistry together and adored their little bonding scene over 'Andre'.
I'm actually surprised as to how much I like the actor Sung Hoon. I do see the little nuances and a sensitivity and boy-next-doorness, which oh so subtly sets him apart from evvvery chaebol-type in every Daily-Weekend drama, everrr!
And it's so old-fashioned! The hairpin! Awwww! And he sighed! *clutches heart and dies a little*
I'm also unable to forget the score that plays in the scene he first sees her.
But the moment he veers Kim Min-joon-wards I'm checking out.
I think the veteran actors are great! But a little pissed off that Im Hyuk is playing an... well, Idiot. But maybe I'll grow to love him as I did in other roles.
Also strangely looking forward to Sa-ran meeting mother #3, the head cook.
What did you think of the voulez-voulez chick? Her perpetually glum face is so weird, considering what she gets up to, but she's weird in a totally good way.
Aww, Kim Ho-chang?! <3
He'll always remain Taejunaaah to me, aka. the guy Song Joong-ki kissed -- right on the lips. (O, I haz video evidence.)
Y'know, I say I don't know how I feel about it, but I've been rewatching scenes all day, and visiting the Soompi thread, and the official site, and watching the trailer again, and editing subs so my buddy xiaoSxin can watch it, and I typed up this long-ish post.. Obviously I like it much more than I'd thought. XD
I like Sung Hoon too, he's pretty. (I'm shallow haha.) I literally squeed myself into a puddle when he was fantasizing about getting Saran's number on the ski slope. He's so suave in his head, it's adorable. And when he and Saran were unable to sleep because they were thinking about each other it was SO CUTE. Also, his hate-hate relationship with poor Andre.. XD
Also! At the sogaeting, she put that barrette on the table because she KNEW Damo would recognize it, and he KNEW she knew he would. And the speed with which he grabbed it is basically proof that he's interested, so even though the girls played dirty and set him up with Rara, both he and Saran know the other is at least a little interested. (And the mild flirting during the drinking game was adorable.)
I foresee conflict coming with Damo's doctor friend though, the one who likes Saran. And obviously Rara's gonna be a brat 'cause she wants Damo and, well, is a brat.
One thing I really wanna know is what the deal is with Mom 3. Moms 1 and 2 I get, but how does Mom 3 fit in? Is she the real birth mother who gave her baby up, and then Mom 2 gave the baby to Mom 1? Was she a surrogate who got unusually attached? Was she Dad 's mistress and gave up her baby to him, only to have him give it to his brother? Then why does Mom 2 care? WHAT IS GOING ON?
And I dunno if it's just me, but I've been giggling like a loon at everyone's names. Damo = the drama with HJW; Saran = Saran Wrap; Rara = lalala~ ♪; Gongjoo = princess; Cha Rari (Rara's mom) = that line from Tim's song 그대여 ("웃는 것 조차 힘든 날엔 차라리 소리 내 울어요")..
Voulez-voulez? I don't speak French, I have no idea who you're talking about. D: Do you mean Gong-joo, Saran's stepsister? i.e. the girl from the opening scene in ep 1? She seems quirky, I kinda like her. If nothing else she'll be an interesting character.
Yesssss, Kim Ho-chang. He's a cutie, I love his huge grin. ♥
Oh I concur. You kow what it is? It's got its set of negatives, but on the whole it's SO alluring. I'm wanting moar! Moar Damo!
Did I forget to mention the part about him being lethally pretty? D'oh! Yeah, he makes me giddy.
Yes! Her sneaky way of flirting.
The writer seems to know what she's doing with the OTP. Saran has kind of got all the makings of a gisaeng (since we know the drama's headed there anyway) and that means she also knows how to lure in the men in her own subtle ways. (Bringin' the boys to the yard!)
I feel bad for the doctor, he seems like such a nice guy. Rara seems a harmless brat now but yeah I can totally see her throwing bitchfits over Damo in future.
Yes, that's the girl, the one in the opening scene, ditto!
The characters are all a bit underdeveloped yet but yeah, let's buckle up, it's a looooooooong ride.
Lethally pretty indeed. I've been calling him Pretty Boy when I spazz about it on twitter (I'm notorious for my running commentaries when I'm watching dramas haha). I'm excited for him and Saran to interact together more.
Rara, though, is totally gonna be a bitch later, she's so self-absorbed. Like the way she dragged all the other girls away from the resort when her filling fell out, not even letting them eat first because she couldn't eat. And the way she jealously asked one of the girls if Saran was pretty after that one gisaeng lady gave Saran her card, as if it had never occurred to her that any of her friends could be considered pretty. I like her now, but I know she's going to be horribly loathsome later.
But I love all the girls in the group. Saran's lovely (even with her plastic nose) and has a quiet calm that balances out her friends; Rara's a brat, but she's kind of funny for now; Ahmi seems down-to-earth and reminds me of Moon Chae-won; and the fourth girl (Joo-ah? Can't remember her name and I'm too lazy to look it up) is a kinda spunky and good-humored. And then of course I love the boys, they're adorbs. ♥
I'm not familiar with the writer (looked her up, and I've never seen any of her previous dramas), but the Soompi talk is that all her leading ladies are like Saran, poor-yet-dignified and preternaturally gorgeous, and her leading men are manly in every sense of the word. That could get old fast, but I feel like it would work well in this modern-day gisaeng world she's created.
And yeah, her characters are underdeveloped right now, but I can forgive that since we have 50 eps or so to go. But if I don't get some more characterization in the next few eps I'm gonna be annoyed.
In the meantime, yayyyyyyyy for a new episode tomorrow! The good thing about starting it so late in the week is that I don't have to wait long for my next fix haha.
Aaaargh! There are two many characters to remember let alone make a note of their names hehe!
But did you say Rara's mother's called Rari? OMO!
The whiny annoying one?
You were right about the plot being slow, if they continue at this pace it'll become excruuuutiating.
I've not watched any of Im Soo-han's dramas either but she appears to be well-known and liked, and like you say recycling the same characters. But I'm definitely with you on how well the characters fit the gisaeng theme.
I also like Damo, he's a chaebol, juust a bit arrogant but one who DOESN'T have issues for once. So the family's a bit abnormal, like his sibling rivalry against a dog but there's no birth secret, the daddy issues are relatively harmless, his mother isn't a wailing banshee... oh we know he WILL have issues, but all those will come later.
Anyways... yay for new episodes! The ones that will likely make or break whatever love I have for the show...
I made a point to remember the girls, since I'm sure they'll be showing up later. The only boys I remember are Damo (apparently named after a singer, which explains that joke Saran made about his name that I didn't get) and Oh Jin-am, the doctor who likes Saran.
Yeah, Rari. Not the whiny one, the classier one, the one Rara actually calls Mom. XD
I'm super excited, actually.. This is what happens when I allow myself to obsess. ><
Hello and welcome to open thread! As an avid re-reader of Dramabeans posts (it's all so interesting!!), she had discussed the appearance of more sex in the media in this post:
I think there are quite a few dramas that don't treat sex as such a big deal, you just have to look for them. The article mentions Coffee Prince, Romance Hunter and Hyena. Of those I've only watched CP and I have to say it was handled very tastefully in that series. It just seemed like a natural progression between Eun Chan and Han Gyul. The skinship between the older couple, in the sense that their relationship was in the more mature stages, was very befitting for them at that stage.
I have seen some dramas in which sex wasn't such a big deal (Kim Sam Soon, Soulmate - though I've only seen some eps of it -, and Dal Ja's Spring).
Lately, there have just been so many odd attacks of "OMG I inadvertently saw a guy's naked shoulder OMG OMG I am shocked!!!" and "how can I get her to (gasp!) touch my hand without seeming like a pervert?" and "we've been a couple for months but if he tries to kiss me I act shocked and call him a pervert".
Initially I just thought the occasional odd prudishness was a kdrama convention, or played for laughs. I guess that's what it is, mostly. :-)
Could I request some spoilers please.Someone recommended the JD Pride.
That is all good except it's all broken links.The one episode I found was ep 11 part 1.
I have no idea what happened.There was a Chinese subbed,audio not synched of a scene where he ?proposed.I don't have a clue as the voices were not in synched with the video.
So why did people like it?So what happened to the couple?
Mysoju,dramasub,dramafever is not working and I'm not in the US so can't get dramafever. or dramacrazy.
Silent Regrets has it as either MU or sendspace ddl; page 38 of Completed J dramas. Aja-Aja also has it if you are a member. You really should watch it to get the full impact.
Halu and Aki do get together in the last episode...
I think people like it for its raw energy, for Kimatku(???) charisma and the beautiful chemistry between the leads.......
I LOVE Pride, and I hate hockey. ha. But Kimura Takuya is amazing. I tried re-watching it recently. The broken links of dramacrazy have only been for one segment of each episode (usually the first) until the last ep.
Thanks for all that.I will look harder for the links.
Epdrama are full of ads and they ask personal details like email etc before proceeding.
Thanks, the acting and chemistry are feedbacks I was looking for.
@Isablehl-wow I love silentregrets.Great site never heard of it before.
Haha...my weekend is now full.
And the best part they have Fated To Love You which I've just started.Thank goodness now I don't have to go to a streaming site now.I am doing figurative cartwheels at the moment to have found this site :-)
I've been having major SG withdrawals and am trying TW and JD because the styles are so different.
Since I'm posting....annyeong questions987.I betcha you're here somewhere.
I've got DH ep 1 uploaded ready for you.Me...as you can tell will be watching TW and JW.LOL.
It's been flat out this week.No?GO when up when 2 of us were doing final edits yesterday and softsubs were being cut.We were like 30 min behing the main subber as well.It felt like a merry go round.
Aish...I felt a wee bit stressed.
at least watch the end scene on you tube. You'll have to enter "eng sub" or "english subbed" or you'll get WAY too many irrelevant replies. just sayin'
Really, I've imagined a dozen ending scenarios for the BOT, and all I really want to happen is for Seol to get both men and the monarchy and the museum and the wealth and the BOT gets ...
her real job back at Mdm. Toussards? OR
her new job at the newly commissioned Korean Aerospace Program and we launch her to Alpha Centauri to see if she survives the trip ...
Well, I don't think we'll have to go to arms with the Alpha Centaurians, since there's that small matter of the missing fuel cell and inexplicable "Tennessee fire" in the engine compartment that means the BOT actually gets to be a million bits of nothingness in space for eternity ...
But really, it's not all teenagers that should have weapons. Just Drama-inclined, gossip-addicted, hormonal teenagers. Otherwise, really, what's the point?
I am loving 'My Princess' at the moment so thank you for the lovely and wonder recaps. I just wanted to know when will 'Chuno' be done with recaps; or, are the people that was recapping it are going to finish it? I've been reading the recaps because its quicker for me because I don't have time as of yet to actually sit down and see the entire drama. Thank you =)
Want to it be monday already so i can watch find out what happens in Dream High episode 8. Kinda want to just speed up time just to see what happens and then reverse time so i can have the weekends back. i know, i'm so evil right?
Anyway dramas you guys can't wait to air this week?
even though its rather flawed but the story makes me want to see, at least i want to give it a chance till ep 5, if they still appear adamant on not showing flashbacks and just keep vaguely referencing back to the thing, then i'll give up..
i'm interested to see what happened that rendered the girl to actually be pleased and want to chat up with her ex husband... i just cant come up with a story line that could follow her reaction...
anyway, i dont think the chinese subs help me in understanding the drama at all.
My recap would be something like:
She said this thing that made no sense, so he answered, and then they did this thing that was really confusing, and would never happen, so then, he had to looked SHOCKED and ANGRY.
So she cried and VOWED to get the ranch back.
But he WON'T HELP.
****OH MY GOD! That is the cutest PONY I have ever seen!!****
So she asked the other guy.
But he suddenly became SHOCKED and ANGRY.
So she cried and VOWED to get the ranch back.
So they put up a clotheline with surveying equipment.
****OH MY GOD! That is the cutest PONY I have ever seen!!****
Here is my suitcase, don't tell Grampa the truth.
****OH MY GOD! That is the cutest PONY I have ever seen!!****
Javabeans seriously has to consider to put this as part of the actual recap. Well, with the pony part i´ll be happy. Haha that was so funny. I need that someone explain me some things about the second episode.
Hi! Happy Friday! I return to school on Monday. Im excited but at the same time, vacations are over. Less k-drama time. I’m going to be almost all day in school. The good part is that I have a laptop and my school gives me free internet (yay!), and in my free time I can catch up with kdramas, Dramabeans…and homework (believe me, there will be free time, is the way I made my schedule).
Hey Javabeans, this are old news, old old news, but I just discover that Playful Kiss had special episodes. I was watching a clip from Dream High (ok,ok, I was watching the Genie clip for the tenth time) and I don’t know how I ended on a fanvid about the specials. I didn’t watch Playful Kiss, I just read the recaps. The reason why mention it it’s because in one of them he is using the messy perm again! I also think that he looks better with the perm. The perm is a little less messy, but messy at the end. Maybe you already watched it, but just a comment.
I finished It's OK Daddy's Girl, and it was LOVELY!!!! True,it's more of a family drama, but it was heartwarming and I like how the main characters are smart and kind and realistic and have common sense.
I finished Secret Garden too...I read the recaps of te finale before actually watching it, but that didn't take away from the experience. Although I don't fully like Ra Im, I did like practically everything else. Loved Oska, Taesun, Seul, and of course JooWon!
As for My Princes it is perfect! I love my romantic comedies (as attested by the fact that I've seen My Girlfriend is a Gumiho, Personal Taste, Oh My Lady! , The Man Who Wouldn't Marry, You're Beautiful, etc. etc.)
and this drama fits the bill. Cute couple, nice plot, mostly sunny, but a bit of drama. the acting is actually pretty solid, and I'm sooo gonna keep watching this drama.
As for Dream High, a busy week has kept me from watching it, but drama marathon weekend starts now, and I'm definitely catching up on all the episodes. The drama did NOT appeal to me at first, because it was idol-filled and high-school-themed, but after reading the recaps, I might be missing out on something....
I CANNOT WAIT FOR MY PRINCESS EP NEXT WEEEEEKKKK!!
some people said that ep 8 was boring...
ommmggggoooddnnesss my heart was like pounding right out of my chest the whole time!
haeyoung is developing feelings for seul more and more as the seconds tick and HE even knows it!!
My last day in Europe, the last night in Paris.
It has been a great experience, since this is my first time visiting Europe.
Definitely will come back sometime in the future, and explore more! I want to go to UK, Germany, Netherlands, etc!
Okay. Feeling rather drained. Nice for it to be the weekend. Alas!
Anyone watching Taisetsu na whatever oshiete kureta subete bla bla I am mixing all the Japanese together because the title is so freaking long. I have suspicions that psychotic/bipolar girl could be.... a man who had a sex change?! I seriously doubt Shuuji and psychotic girl did anything. And on second thought what if this was all a plot with his brother, the one who spitefully ripped up the wedding invitation?
Onto cheerier things... where are the Chinese wuxia girls? I remember there were some here... :( I started rewatching Count of Mt. Deer (Lu Ding Ji), the 1998 version, for probably the fifth time in my life. Yeah. Still brings me LOLs to this day... LOL.
ALSO. Finally. Australian Open. Sad that Nadal was injured during the game, but totally respect that he played through the entire game (I WAS ROOTING FOR HIM TO WIN!!!). Also... Federer, why did you lose. WHY.
You calling for me? Chinese wuxia girls. LOL. That's a nice way of putting it - rather than ockoala and mookie span the hell out of OT for 2 months last year spazzing about wuxia dramas.
You're watching the Jordan Chan version of DoMD? Not my favorite. At all.
I'm 100% a 1984 DoMD fangirl - still the best adaptation of a Louis Cha wuxia novel I have ever seen.
Young Tony Leung and Young Andy Lau created the first ever bromance on network television. Every bromance on any drama since then have to bow three times to these two guys.
Wei Xiao Bao had seven wives because he could not be with his true love - Emperor Kangxi. That is my story and I'm sticking to it.
Sometimes when I watch DoMD, I get this urge to pee, because I'm laughing too hard. Ah, good times. :-D
Both men at their utmost youthful peak. Before the hit their middle age prime, back when they were youngsters, but Tony could still out-act anyone in the room.
Hhhm, my proof reading ability seems to have evaporated? Sorry for the litter of typos in the post above.
Just wanted to say that in the picture on the lower right hand corner the young Tony/Andy pic, the girl on Tony's left is in fact Carina Lau, now his wifey.
She played one of his 7 wifeys in DoMD. TBH, none of the wifeys had any real chemistry with Tony. He saved it all for Andy. :-P
LOL that one is a very great bromance version, but I really like Jordan Chan's comedic timing. I like the lots of LOLs this version brings. Plus I think part of it is because I really grew up with the Jordan Chan version.
I will not go into the HORRID version that was the most recent Huang Xiaoming version where I wanted to punch the director because he ruined DoMD for me.
I almost felt like rewatching Smiling Wanderer for probably the fourth time... That book is tied as my favorite with Semi-gods and Demi-gods and both I've watched the adaptations many times.... Maybe I will when I'm feeling more serious. But it seems like right now I'm really up for comedy....
The only redeeming thing about the 2008 Huang Xiaoming version of DoMD (renamed The Royal Tramp in English) was the kids section.
Best kids acting I have ever seen from that little boy playing little Wei Xiaobao. Little Kangxi was alright, but little Xiaobao blew me away. Cute, precocious, and spot on comedic timing and acting.
Everything else was a disaster. Except all 7 wives were actually all pretty, as opposed to a couple pretty ones and the rest are all quite unattractive, which defeats the purpose of him getting 7 hot wives.
Smiling Proud Wanderer is my fave book, and Chow Yun Fat's 1984 version remains my fave adaptation.
I am really torn about Demi-Gods and Semi-devils, because it's a masterful book, but got you get your gut torn out when only two of the three leads gets a happy ending, and the one shafted gets shafted six-ways to Sunday in each portion of the book, I wanted to create a chart for "the million ways to torture and inflict mention and physical anguish on Xiao Feng."
Anyways, enjoy your watch! I do agree that it's easiest to love whichever adaptation you grew up with. Does that mean you also love LoCH 1994 and RoCH 1995 more than its 80s classics?
I do agree that it’s easiest to love whichever adaptation you grew up with. Does that mean you also love LoCH 1994 and RoCH 1995 more than its 80s classics?
(haha hope codes come out right...)
So true. Back to my lifelong fangirling of JinYung. His novels are just sooo out of this world good, ANY adaptation of it is decent and entertaining enough a watch, and pawns all the shiteous scripts they are making dramas out of last decades.
I dig the nick Chinese wuxia girls and I'll squeeze myself in as one. *wave and hughughug twinnie*
I fear 4 the OTers shivering and humming their Redrum at the thought of me waving my JinYong novels/dramas along with my 'I'm bacckkkkk!' muahahaha XDD
DoMD have just so many genres weaved in I'm not sure if we should label it wuxia tbh. It can very well be the mother of all the HK Gamblers, Gangsters movies. Comedy, roflmao funny. Bromance that beats all bromance [ very off tangent sidenote (because I saw 10 min of it unintentionally last nite) : Dong Yi, so u think King loving some servant girl is EPIC?! how bout King loving platonically his eunuch whom he finds out is not a eunuch and he's not gay, (not) eunuch may assassinate him, spies for his antagonists, they cant both live, yet they LURVE each other more than they love their mothers?!]. Pairings, 7 of them (and many more flings). if that rocks ur boat, we even have a lot of kinky pink stuff if they really do it true to novel. Then political intrigue, court conspiracies....o and wuxia you name it, it's there, marvelously done.
The bromance btn KangXi and WXB is dearest to me fr everything I love in DoMD, because imo that's the core of getting all the wheels spinning throughout the epic and I judged adaptations mostly on that. Needless to say, nth will EVER touch Andy+Tony in DoMD84 (yesyesyes, THE best adaptation of LC novel ever) True, u can see the styrofoam mountains and skies, it's 80s hideous makeup on every face and questionable taste in beauty. Despite it all, it's just the best of the best even as a stand alone drama in terms of writing, directing, acting. (and there's the Leslie theme song!!!! I miss Leslie *sob*)
Jordan Chan is truest to the novel WXB in looks, but he is completely void of that intangible charisma a Tony Leung has which is most crucial in the casting of the character if u r going to put it on a screen. It's not really handsomeness, we've never heard of ppl wanna PS a Tony Leung's nose/chin. I need to be charmed off my socks when he's doing everything a lowly pervie scum will do without much of a conscience yet fully conscious in front of my very eyes. It's more disconcerting to see it, than read about it in the novel, for me.
I do agree DoMD98's slapstick is funny, but I cant in the love of wuxia reduce DoMD to gags. I need to fall in love with WXB like any one of his wifeys so I don't think all of them r nuts and retarded or else I'll throw things through most of the drama. I need that love also to not doubt if KangXi and all the big shots have lobotomies. It's like a Forrest Gump, u need to love THE Forrest Gump to follow it thro. In the case of this slimy sleazy WXB, it's even a much higher obstacle to overcome of coz. JY did that marvelously in the novel, DoMD98, not.
I'd rather watch the Dicky Cheung one for laughs because that one didnt even pretend to be true to anything written in the novel. It's so remote fr it I'm 100% sure I'm watching sth else fr the get go and it works on that level, laughs and all.
And DoMD is truly the JY ode to Hong Kong, his home sweet home. What's so off with the JZJ/HXM one is the complete obliteration of the wry, HK style comedy, those clever dirty play on Cantonese. I'm not sure if the mainland reader even get all that fr the novel, let alone the dour dull ZJZ making yet another of his 'true to paper and ink and treebark' adaptation with no heart and soul.
I second "WORD." I am mainly just rewatching DoMD'98 for laughs since I need major comedy in my life at this point, so that's why I stuck with the '98 version.
Okay, here is a tough question. I know Jin Yong is awesome and everything, but... if you had to choose a least favorite novel, which one would you choose?
I think there are a few that are less developed, i.e. Yuan Yang Dao, etc. that are shorter stories, but I feel like since they are not fully developed enough, I can't be justified to really call it a least favorite since I just can't say that much about it. But... right now my least favorite is leaning towards Shu Jian En Chou Lu (Book & Sword). I think it's because the main character totally kills it for me.
Hot Gimmick is a hot mess. Don't read the last one. Only read the alternate ending that some kind soul wrote, because otherwise you will want to burn the entire set, because really... tell me when you're done reading so I can get in on this conversation.
clichique, are you watching love buffet? I actually like it! Taiwanese dramas can get so annoying with an overly "cute" lead girl who overdoes it on the cute, so much so I want to puke. But this girl is funny, and I like Calvin (I must be the only one cos everybody else seems to be rooting for Aaron). Aaron's so sour he tires me. Calvin's all sunshiny goodness. Ok if you haven't watched it, got 3 words for you: This. You. Forget. (Gosh, writing the 3 words gives me goosebumps...HY! I LOVE YOU!)
Oh.. for some reason I thought it had Rainie Yang and for me, any TW drama with her is a deal breaker (I just cannot deal with her at all... period. And she always chooses characters I can't get behind... well, not always, but still, many of her past characters totally ruined her for me).
BUT turns out I am wrong. Maybe I will watch it. IDK, TW dramas are REALLY, REALLY hit or miss with me. And they definitely overdo the cute. It pisses me off like none other. Oh and their girls almost never have a backbone. Pisses me off more (omg so much rage... I need to take up yoga again). I hate seeing wet lettuces, and I always see them here. ALWAYS.
Read the synopsis... it is exactly like the manga Parfait Tic. Oh, wait, it says it's based off of that. Oh. Big surprise. TW dramas, WHERE IS YOUR CREATIVITY. Oh wait, sorry, I'm watching TW dramas what am I talking about. Wait. Wait. Did they not even change their names?? Like the original manga character Daiya -> Daya. And Ichi -> Ah Yi (which means one or ichi in Japanese).
Although... I loved that manga. Except when they threw in crap and tore her away from Ichi because I liked Ichi more. Omg freaking dilemma... OKAY FINE I WILL WATCH. But if this TW drama disappoints me... oh wait, happened too many times I probably am used to it.
Sigh. I'm turning psychotic. I blame it on certain people. I see you, SSH. I see you. Stop looking at me like that, SSH, I know what you want to do, but I'm gonna pretend I'm not seeing anything. COVER MY EYES.
well, anyone can tell me why i'm feeling crappy lately? true, my princess and dream high is giving me minor doses of excitement (while paradise ranch give none at all, sorry changmin, ilu and all but-) but all in all, life's just one big blur of colour that blinds me.
Happened to me twice while watchin MP. One's where Seol & Prof. Comfy McHottie ate ramen. I paused the video and dashed to the kitchen to prepare instant noodles. And the other time was when the chef prepared milk for Seol.
But when you say "diet" what comes to mind are the times when i almost skipped meals while engrossed watching k-dramas. My tummy knows how to 'sound the alarm' when hungry.
i discovered how to lose some of the fat while still enjoying the kdrama crack: oatmeal power shots! that will keep u up til yr next proper meal....which may take you another 20 hours if you are doing a marathon :-)
if you still have the strength to prep a meal: instead of meat, try fresh green salads (without the heavy dressing...just lemon and olive oil will do) and raw nuts eg peanuts which is high in resveratrol...anti-ageing stuff u can find from red wine. brown or red rice instead of the white variety, if you are a rice eater. complex carbohydrates like sweet potato is a nice a alternative. sardines are also good they say :-) fresh fruits are easy to pop in yr mouth when yr busy skimming and LOL through all the comments and posts in Dramabeans, ehehe!
We are at the last few days of January now.. Still no news or rumors of WHAT'S UP??
Javabeans, Girlfriday... have you heard or read anything at all? I've been waiting for this drama since LAST YEAR. The last rumor was SBS for MArch 2011.
Do you think that this drama will get shelved like Birdie Buddy?
Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. I can't imagine that to happen. I think I will have a meltdown.
I know! Good or bad.. I will watch it anyway bec it's L! J! H! But it's a little bit disheartening. I don't even want to imagine the day he will tweet bad news again. *heartbreaking*
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1 izzie
January 28, 2011 at 6:54 AM
sleeeeepy Friday...
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Sumee
January 28, 2011 at 8:21 AM
Yawn Yawn Yawn !!!!! ;-)
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izzie
January 28, 2011 at 8:23 AM
*peels face off computer screen*
hey there Moony Loony sistah! been a long time! howdy? :D
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Sumee
January 28, 2011 at 8:41 AM
i am lost in the loony world ..dried out eyes ..as no nutrition been provided !
u temme ? ;-)
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izzie-bot
January 28, 2011 at 8:55 AM
tired from work. unwinding. now a 'bot. :P
missed y'all moony looney sisters! :)
Sumee
January 28, 2011 at 9:38 AM
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh ..izzie-bot ..ship change ?? I am counting one less..! still sailing long & strong .. Sumee-Ah in !
izzie
January 29, 2011 at 6:41 AM
no ship change. :P
- yoo izzie ;)
samgetang
January 30, 2011 at 11:13 AM
sumeeeeee......izzieeeeee :-) sistahs of brightness!
izzie
January 31, 2011 at 9:37 AM
When will we have a proper reunion? I wonder. :) ever seen kdl and pastmidnite lately?
samgetang
January 31, 2011 at 4:45 PM
kdl and pastmidnite are missing in action :-)
2 amg01
January 28, 2011 at 6:54 AM
Happy Friday!!!!!
More work that I can handle but that is a good thing!!!!!
Seul has become my favorite character so far of 2011, My Princess, is so far the top of the crop MP FTW!!!!
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amg01
January 28, 2011 at 7:06 AM
I was reading that some people thought that the "Kiss" scene at the end of chapter seven was not a "Good" one, but what I really like about that scene was that there was no "Music" to enhance the mood, and the kiss was a good one IMHO, it was done not in the spree of the moment, but Seul even when she was drunk she was still in control of the situation is not like he took advantage of the situation since she kiss him first.
But I must say that I am a bit conflicted about kiss, because some body raise the question of whether it is appropriate to kiss some one while one party is drunk and the other is not.
I guess there is a fine line between taking advantage of somebody while that person is intoxicated, but I do not think that our main lead abuse his power when he kiss the Princess, at least it did not appear that way!!!!!
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jomo143
January 28, 2011 at 7:08 AM
If they didn't like it silent in 7, it had music at start of 8.
Did anyone comment on their preference?
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izzie
January 28, 2011 at 7:29 AM
the silence made way for the "eeek!", the "wheee!" and the "aargh!" in the viewers' heads.
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maria
January 28, 2011 at 7:33 AM
hahha this made me lol so hard--- SO TRUE. guilty on the "wheee" count. :P
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crys
January 28, 2011 at 10:38 AM
i've watched the kiss scenes so many times now with and w/o music. both works for me! So enchanted w/ this couple, still can't help squeeling with glee each time i see it. hehehe
informantxgirl
January 28, 2011 at 11:55 AM
I'd have to agree. :) I also think having the scene be silent helped to keep the viewer focused on the action - reinforced by the extreme close-ups of the leads. Then when they kissed, the camera pulled away, like we were giving them privacy. I thought that was very effective in selling how hot a kiss it was, we can't even look at it too long (though not as hot as the train station one in Coffee House, imho).
That being said, I hate Hae Young this week; no, LOATHE him. Did not know I could have that level of fury at a drama lead. I was completely enraged by his actions, even if I get them, but he made her cry and got her mom to turn against her. That's not cold - that's arctic. I also wished she had clocked him but good, or even nicked him with a carving knife (I'm a bit bloodthirsty, lol). Those little poundings she gave him didn't seem to be enough for the level of harm he inflicted on her. Making me lose my only family? Yeah, even if I stole your fortune, there's no right. I wanted to deck him so bad. I know I will go back to loving him soon, but if I were there...he'd be laid out flat on the ground. Just saying.
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autumnscribbles
January 28, 2011 at 5:01 PM
and the strings of "OMG!"s...
i thought the silence worked well in that scene. also, given how badly the show has been using their scores so far (e.g. daddy-hit-by-car + light/sweet BGM=WTF ) i was glad they didn't add any music to it.
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samgetang
January 30, 2011 at 11:05 AM
nodding to this! ;-)
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clichique
January 28, 2011 at 10:38 AM
What I have been reading is people complaining how there is no emotional buildup to the kiss scene, and my face is just like, ....... REALLY?? WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN WATCHING???
It's been building up since episode 1. It's only appropriate that they kiss now. Because in this moment, Haeyoung, I guess takes advantage of the fact that Seol is drunk, to let go of all the walls he's built up in front of his wall, because he knows it is wrong for him to be showing her his feelings, etc. This is the one moment that Haeyoung lets down his guard and just goes with his feeling. And then you get the beginnings of angst galore, etc.
But really... NO BUILDUP??? Idk, I totally saw it coming.
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izzie
January 29, 2011 at 6:39 AM
what really ruined it for me (though not totally) is the lean-to-kiss multiple replay like it's some awesome action sequence. they do that when they flip cars in chases. in this case, I was one the one flippin'. :(
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samgetang
January 30, 2011 at 11:11 AM
did not like that one, too...much better if they panned out but still up close or like a 360 degree view on the two, how do u call it? but when the camera pulled away to give a full view of the two of them on the stairs...seems like a nice touch.
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izzie
January 31, 2011 at 9:35 AM
much better if they panned out but still up close or like a 360 degree view on the two, how do u call it
that's called "trying to make the cameraman trip on the stairs." :) just kidding. Yeah, the 360. That would be a good treatment of the scene before the zoom out. You get a good look at the actors' emotions that way. And it is a better way of prolonging the kissing scene rather than the multi-lean-over-replay which makes you wanna scream "kiss already!" than gasping for the suspense.
samgetang
January 31, 2011 at 4:48 PM
haha! was thinking of the cameraman tripping in the stairs, too, hehe. difficult shot to maneuver, i guess ;-) but that would have made the scene more fluid and not as jarring as how they've done it ;-) blame the stairs, i guess ;-)
maria
January 28, 2011 at 7:13 AM
FIGHTING!!! :D
the kiss, i felt like the build had definitely been there, and in that sense it had been a long time coming (well, as long as you can feel 7 episodes in LOL)--- so i think it really would've happened drunk or not. they were both pretty much gunning for it. ......although you wouldn't have been able to tell, gven how dispassionate it came off looking in the final cut. O_O ..i was like, really? that's the result of your zekshual tenshun?!?! that's IT?!!
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amg01
January 28, 2011 at 7:24 AM
I think to me the "Silent" represented the "Calm Before The Storm", specially for our main lead since there was a reason why he took Seul away from the castle, but overall I really like the kiss, I think it fits whit in the chaotic story line of conflicted interest, the ones that want the Monarchy and those who don't!!!
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maria
January 28, 2011 at 7:28 AM
ooh, i like the way you read that bit-- the manifestation of their conflicted interest would indeed be mirrored by a random and chaotic insertion of a kiss in the middle of all the hoopla they're currently engaged in (wow, can you tell i'm drafting my thesis. what's with the academic jargon, huh?well-- i think "hoopla" balanced it out nicely LOL)
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belleza
January 29, 2011 at 4:01 PM
"Seul has become my favorite character so far of 2011, My Princess, is so far the top of the crop MP FTW!!!!"
Agreed. Not since Jang Nara have seen an actress give us a "Bright Girl" so full-bodied.
My Princess is the show Secret Garden could have been, if the latter wasn't so satisfied with its own star power.
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3 DIANE
January 28, 2011 at 6:56 AM
Happy Friday thanks for recap Javabean
have a nice weekend.
My princess ep 9 and ep 10 i am
looking forward........
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4 Lacey
January 28, 2011 at 7:04 AM
i wanna watch the next episode dream high badlyyy..... XD
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Cherry
January 28, 2011 at 8:25 AM
Me too :(
I can't wait to see Pilsuk all pretty & confessing to Jason, so excited even though i have a feeling he'll reject her ;(
And i also hope Eunjung will become a bit better by each episode, i don't want her to end up all alone ;(
As for Samdong I don't want him to become deaf, noooooo Cheolteru andweeeeee
Anyway, Dream High & My Princess are making the beginning of 2011 better for me =)
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tapegunslinger
January 28, 2011 at 8:58 AM
Me too, me too! Pil-sook and Jason are my fave couple.
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vanillasalt
January 28, 2011 at 4:10 PM
same here! I think they're my fave couple out of the whole drama. They'd be such a cute married coupel, i think. haha!
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5 x0mi07
January 28, 2011 at 7:06 AM
happy friday everyone! i hope my friday can be just as happy but i've spent the whole day worrying about the egyptian people. i've gone there more than ten times since i was a kid; almost every summer since i was eight. and from everything i saw, even in my grandma's house, i never knew over 50% of the egyptians earned less than 2 USD per day. now the egyptian people are fighting for their freedom and the corrupt govt cut off most of the country's phone, mobile, & internet services to stop the spread of protest. my dad's family lives in alexandria..=,( i can't seem to bring myself to watch mp to calm my nerves. i'm so worried.=( please pray for the safety of the egyptian people!=,( tnx..
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dom
January 28, 2011 at 7:50 AM
oh my god... i just read the news..I can't imagine how hard it is living without any form of communication and freedom. I hope there no more violence..
I hope your family is all well... and I pray for the Egyptian..
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meenuby
January 28, 2011 at 9:17 AM
My prayers are with the Egyptian people and your family. And the Yemenis and Algerian people.
Ever since the Tunisians ousted their president, this collective wave of protest and discontent has continued throughout the Middle East.
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lessaofpern
January 28, 2011 at 10:54 AM
My prayers are with your family and with all the people of Egypt.
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Lenita
January 28, 2011 at 11:03 AM
right there with you!
if any consolation, we had terrible things happened in indonesia, but sometimes the news make it much worse than it really is. hoepfully that's the case here as well. hang in there!
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annie
January 28, 2011 at 11:07 AM
I feel for you... praying for the Egyptians, and for all those experiencing turmoil and protest in the Middle East. May God keep your family members safe.
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x0mi07
January 28, 2011 at 2:33 PM
thanks everyone for your prayers! =,) *group hug* <3 <3 <3
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YY
January 28, 2011 at 9:51 PM
Praying for you, your family and the ppl of Egypt....hang in there, brave knight....these are dark times indeed, but be strong for your family....*bear hug*
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x0mi07
January 30, 2011 at 6:14 PM
thanks so much yy!^^ *hugs tight* <3 <3 <3
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Josina
January 29, 2011 at 2:30 AM
Hope your family is okay and that you can contact them soon.
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x0mi07
January 30, 2011 at 6:15 PM
thank you as well.=,)
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6 jomo143
January 28, 2011 at 7:07 AM
Hello everyone!
It is so nice and cozy here on the thread.
I have a K-drama clothes question.
Why why why do they go to bed fully clothed, jeweled and hair still up?
Am I supposed to believe that they have not completely ruined their $3000. suit, gouged their scalps from the hair pins, and awoke with imprints on their necks from diamond
earrings and necklaces?
Is it because we cannot even imagine them with their clothes off for one second before putting pjs on? Is it because there just isn't anywhere for them to change?
Why can't we see them walking into another room with clothes on and then a quick cut to them in PJs crawling into bed?
I started of list of drams that this happend in, but gave up, since it is in every single one...
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izzie
January 28, 2011 at 7:24 AM
must be very busy people. no time to change into pj's, and need to get up dressed in the morning and hit the ground running.
which reminds me of Yoon-Ju getting on and off bed with no single strand of her helmet hair out of place.
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izocha
January 28, 2011 at 9:57 AM
That's because she's an angry Lego.
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jomo143
January 28, 2011 at 10:41 AM
OK. That is funny!
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Kaitlyn
January 28, 2011 at 10:52 AM
LOL i like your term! "angry Lego" hehe
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annie
January 28, 2011 at 11:09 AM
Haha YES! Complete with helmet of plastic hair that comes on and off in one piece (this is why we can't see her getting reacy for bed, it would be scarring to see her round head with a single peg on top).
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jomo143
January 28, 2011 at 11:14 AM
It would be rather rewarding!
I would like to see Seul pull that cap off that single peg head, then step on it.
annie
January 28, 2011 at 2:34 PM
Heh. That WOULD be satisfying.
YY
January 28, 2011 at 9:57 PM
Her hair looks a lot like the German helmets in WWII
izzie
January 29, 2011 at 6:29 AM
*scared. looks at lego.*
Lego: Hi! I'm your friend!
*shudders.*
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Josina
January 28, 2011 at 8:21 AM
Hello all,
I've only started posting in the recaps for SG and MP recently, but as my kdrama addiction is escalating it's been great to come here and learn I'm not the only one who is afflicted : )
As for the pyjamas: I think it was only in The Woman Who Still Wants to Marry where I spotted a main character wearing PJs. Can't think of any other instances.
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ck1Oz
January 28, 2011 at 8:34 AM
KHJ never changed out of his checked pajamas for all of the PK special episodes.Yes?
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tapegunslinger
January 28, 2011 at 9:00 AM
In a lot of the daily dramas, I see the newlywed couples wear pajamas. And I think they did in Playful Kiss.
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jomo143
January 28, 2011 at 11:15 AM
I get it now, PJ's = sexyfuntimes.
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annie
January 28, 2011 at 11:11 AM
MNKSS. Sam Soon wears pajamas a lot. But she's, y'know, Sam Soonish. :) I can't think of a scene where Sam Shik wears pjs though. Actually let's not talk about Hyun Bin's wardrobe in that drama. I'm currently rewatching it, and as much as I love the show, OMG his outfits are so cringeworthy.
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Josina
January 28, 2011 at 12:42 PM
That's one thing about Kdrama: it's the male leads who are more likely to look back at themselves in five years time and think, 'was I conscious when I agreed to wear that?'
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annie
January 28, 2011 at 2:16 PM
So true. Although I was pretty close to poking my eyes out at some of Mae Ri's outfits in MSOAN.
jomo143
January 28, 2011 at 1:15 PM
Didn't the contemporary audience LOVE his style?
Although, with all that flourescent stuff, we did see a hint of things to come for Joo Won.
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Josina
January 28, 2011 at 2:11 PM
Probably, but that's kind of my point: the clothes all seem achingly contemporary and will date quickly.
Then again, I am more bothered by the hundreds of innocent rodents they had to butcher to dress the cast of SG.
Brandi
January 28, 2011 at 9:05 AM
WIN!
But I'm more upset with the "Strangled by the Red String" trope in most kdramas. Basically, you have two pretty people together who have NOTHING in common, except for their "love" or whatever for each other. Ok. But what do they talk about when they're not talking about their opposing parents? What?
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Josina
January 28, 2011 at 9:32 AM
How pretty they are, of course. I'm starting to learn this from MP.
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Jane
January 28, 2011 at 1:10 PM
What bothers me about this is that during shipping wars, people start bringing up the whole, "they are too similar" crap like that's a bad thing. Of course, you don't want a clone but surely someone with similar interests or sensibilities or even backgrounds is not a bad thing at all. In fact, it's often the key to a successful relationship.
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annie
January 28, 2011 at 2:18 PM
Being similar is good for a relationship in real life, for sure, but it sure makes for a boring drama. ;)
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autumnscribbles
January 28, 2011 at 5:26 PM
yeh, i was surprised how tidy Seol looked (esp her hair) after she woke up after drinking herself silly the previous night. And the headband!! she always sleeps with it on. i tried to ignore it but it's just so distracting, i keep thinking: man, isn't that uncomfortable?
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Tess
January 29, 2011 at 1:45 AM
It was the same with Jung-In in Mary Stayed Out All Night. He always slept in his suit - that must be SO uncomfortable!!
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7 leonardswench
January 28, 2011 at 7:08 AM
Oh it's a beautiful Friday ... I have to work 16 hours, but there are worse fates than having a job that pays me to stay at home and watch my children with love....
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diadda
January 28, 2011 at 9:00 AM
You have a blessed life with the coolest kids in the world!
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leonardswench
January 28, 2011 at 10:29 AM
LOL, you mean, little stalkers, right? Sadly, two trips to Wally World and Dillard's, no hot males of the Korean persuasion .... but I did see a cute Desi mix, about six, I think ...
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Viola
January 28, 2011 at 10:58 AM
OOOhhh!! Cute desi mix? Were any of them doctors?. . . . . . . . . . *appalled silence* *smacks self* I have been hanging out with my mom too much!! That is Exactly the followup question she asks anytime there is mention of anyone of the male persuasion. :P
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leonardswench
January 28, 2011 at 11:22 AM
lol lol .... he'll have to grow up, first, and I couldn't tell from Mom and Grandma what profession the Husband/Son was in, but he did make money judging from the quality of fabric on their clothing.
lessaofpern
January 28, 2011 at 12:43 PM
LOL Viola!!! A conditioned response!!! :P
lessaofpern
January 28, 2011 at 10:59 AM
LOL! I just love your little stalkers :D Desi? Not bad at all!!!
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8 maria
January 28, 2011 at 7:10 AM
hello, ladies and (very few) gentlemen! (any gentlemen hiding out there?:P )
happy happy friday. although i'm stuck at home writing a draft of my thesis, i still sneak in a little time to indulge my (latest) falling prey to the Second Lead Syndrome (AGAIN!) !!!!!
i love you, Jungwoo!!! even with your Indiana-jones-in-the-city outfits.... all i need is your smile, and my day is totally made!!! :D :D :D
apart from you, however, i must admit, im liking the seol-HY pairing, because i think none of them think it can actually work out, and it makes them very cavalier about revealing their true feelings. like a really twisted version of doing whatever the hell you want because there will be no real-world consequences for your actions. DUN DUN DUN-- can you believe He Young actually TOLD Seol that he was one of the things she was giving up by being a princess? it's so tantamount to actually saying, "you have me. that's not the issue here. YES i like you, and you like me, I KNOW. "!!!! oh, the angst! that line kills me!
i can't wait until they figure out that it CAN happen, and THEN i'm so totally there for the ensuing passive aggressive courtship. ....well, i think that's pretty much where we are now, eh? :P
also-- my heart's kind of confused about rooting for Hyemi-Jingook or Hyemi-Samdong, but i know one thing for sure---- SUSHI AND CHIPMUNK FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
i wonder how her confession will go next week?!?! can't waaaait! is it next week yet??
and REALLY REALLY OT-- but did anyone catch the latest epi of Bones??? THAT LAST LOOK OF BOOTH TO BRENNAN KILLED ME!!!!!! AAAH!!! <3 <3 <3 knew it! .....the days of B<3B are upon us!!!! :D
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GuitarHero
January 28, 2011 at 7:14 AM
I KNOW. i love BONES tooooo!!! Booth and Bones are very fun to watch <3 im just so sad that Hannah came in the scene :( anyway love BONES :)
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asea
January 28, 2011 at 2:25 PM
I love Bones too :(
Too much Hannah recently.... but that last look does soothe me quite a bit.. it's like the writer make her looks so nice to make the viewer like her but it's just make it looks like to a fake personality... Argh! Why are they so afraid to make B&B a couple? So many things to write about :(
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ar_arguably romantic
January 28, 2011 at 5:05 PM
I actually like Hannah but I can't understand why Booth would date her and vice versa. There is no chemistry between them.
the Bones x Booth thing is like a catch-22 for me. I'm super frustrated that they're not together, but once they get together, there's no longer the sizzle of being-close-but-not-close-enough. There was this really popular show in the 1980s -Moonlighting- with the will-they-won't-they sexual tension and after the characters consummated their relationship, popularity declined.
Anyways, the HY and Seol pairing does remind me a bit of Booth and Bones. Both make great lovers (when we get them there), but both will also make great friends and it's that extra layer that makes me like the Seol x HY pairing (though I'm pissed at HY this week
Jung-woo makes me smile like moron and act just like Seol when she's crushing on him.
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dom
January 28, 2011 at 7:35 AM
gosh! I too took a break from thesis writing to watch MP and BONES!!.. ahh.. my heart break for her in the 9th epi.. but how booth look at her at epi 10 is more heartbreaking!! gah.. i think i'm some kind of a massocist.. enjoying heartbreaks.. hahahaha
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Mayounaise
January 28, 2011 at 7:57 AM
Yes! I can't take side either when it comes to HM-JG or HM-SD pairing. All signs kinda point towards HM-JG pairing, what with the childhood memories, deeper connection, and it seems that HM will fall for JG in episode 8. And usually, when the main girl falls, she falls HARD & could nvr seems to have a change of heart Buuuttt I still can't watch a heartbroken SD. Can we just clone HM to keep those two boys happy??
Oh, and yeasss to CHIPMUNK & PHIL SOOK!! =D
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izocha
January 28, 2011 at 10:32 AM
Hi, I'm knew to the thread, and only k-drama addict for a few months, but its really hit me hard...I've been reading the thread for awhile, though (longtime fan, first time caller-well almost)...ANYWAY, I've been having an argument w/ my housemate regarding the Booth, Brennan, Hannah relationship for awhile. I really like Hannah, and I think the story needs a slow Brennan-Booth rebuild...because of her, but also to keep the story going, since when they get together there will be no more FBI partnership and ipso facto no more show, which would be...bad. For me anyway...
As to Hye-mi: that girl is clueless. Sushi-Chipmunk fighting, though. I particularly want her to win lots, and find a spine. Same for SD and JS--but they are all in high school, so they really just need to survive w/o horrendous scars and solid friendships, that would make me so happy.
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maria
January 28, 2011 at 1:56 PM
welcome welcome! i have more things to say, except i'm horibly drunk, typing this and checking dramabeans after a really crazy night. just wanted to say--- thanks for delurking!!! welcome! :D
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Jane
January 28, 2011 at 1:15 PM
Say what? I already got sick of the Bones/Booth will they/will they not so I stopped watching the show. But if they are FINALLY getting together, then I'm going to watch the last episode this weekend.
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annie
January 28, 2011 at 2:21 PM
Me too! I got frustrated and quit at the beginning of the third season. That's one of the negatives about the long-running american tv shows, they have to keep the main couple apart until the end (usually) and they don't know when that will be, so they keep dragging it on, introducing more obstacles/rivals/issues, until finally you're wondering what on earth brought them together in the first place.
That's one of the reasons I prefer kdramas :)
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9 GuitarHero
January 28, 2011 at 7:10 AM
Hi everyone!
its a cooold friday evening.
Im enjoying My Princess alot and looking forward to episode 9 and 10!
My Princess FTW!:D
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10 john
January 28, 2011 at 7:11 AM
I am adoring Dream High. I am still rooting for Baek Hee as a redeemable character. And...with HyeMi...both guys seem to work well with her. It'll be interesting who they eventually pair her off with.
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merriweather
January 28, 2011 at 8:23 AM
I am also rooting for Baek Hee to have some kind of redemption! I really don't want her to turn out to just be this villain who can't see what she's doing wrong.
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Okie Dokie
January 28, 2011 at 9:37 AM
I think Baek Hee will. She's already so tortured by her actions. I think there will be a moment of redemption. She's not a bad person, she's just so beaten down that she'll do anything to prove that she's up to snuff.
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annie
January 28, 2011 at 2:23 PM
I think more than beaten down, she's easily influenced, escpecially when she's feeling vulnerable. She is a follower, so when she lost Hye-mi as a compass she turned to her teacher, who advised her basically that she has to become a ruthless bitch to survive. Not... the best advice to give a teenager.
I hope she grows a backbone and does something to redeem herself, even if her friendship with Hye-mi is unsalvageable.
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Tess
January 29, 2011 at 1:51 AM
That teacher is srsly psycho. I love Dream High to bits, but I would NOT want to attend. It's a battle zone, with murder attempts left right and centre!!
11 Kera
January 28, 2011 at 7:15 AM
That bugged me so much as well!!! It's like all drama characters are vampires that don't need to move/breathe/be comfortable when asleep.
Is it that hard to include pyjamas in their wardrobe? If we can live through shower scenes and naked walk-ins, we can live through changes of wardrobe.
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Kera
January 28, 2011 at 7:17 AM
Eh, my bad. That was a reply to Jomo.
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jomo143
January 28, 2011 at 8:06 AM
Excatly on the shower scenes! It's not like we haven't seen them naked.
Although except for fully clothed ones, there are never female shower scenes. Bath scenes, yes, but no showers.
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leonardswench
January 28, 2011 at 10:33 AM
Actually, there is in My Girl, when Seo Hyun is contemplating her lost love and his new 'cousin' .... episode 4 or 5, I think, my son will know when he gets off the Wii.
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Viola
January 28, 2011 at 11:06 AM
awwww. Your kids are probably the most adorable things on the planet!! Please ask him whether he would consider being my little brother, the current one I have has no interest in K dramas. :(
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leonardswench
January 28, 2011 at 11:26 AM
Okay, here's my plan. Sunday afternoon I'm "free" for a few hours and I WILL figure out the digital camera and get the Taekyung hair on disc before he outgrows the phase ... wait, it's been six months or more, is he going to outgrow it???
Viola
January 28, 2011 at 11:02 AM
In MP, I know I saw Seoul in a nightgown. A lacy pretty one too. I also remember seeing her in shorts/robe combo :)
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samgetang
January 30, 2011 at 6:42 PM
loved that lacy nightgown to bits...where can i get one like that? ;-) can it make me jump and hop and skip all over the bedroom just like her?
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12 grasya
January 28, 2011 at 7:23 AM
hi!
whoa, MP8 had 6 minutes of recaps in the beginning! did the writer run out of new ideas to fill up the extra minutes? i couldn't understand HY in episode 8: "return to me"; "I will marry her"; "You're beautiful". what in heaven's name are you getting at dear HY?
i found the kiss sweet. ain't it realistic that there were no background music? looking forward to the next one : )
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somuchsoju
January 28, 2011 at 8:09 AM
I think the playback was sort of filler because I heard they shot Ep 8 just this week (around Mon or Tues) and I don't think they're done filming Ep 9 hence, no preview.
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leonardswench
January 28, 2011 at 10:35 AM
Looks like we're going to being seeing a lot of exhausted actors as they try to play catch-up ....
once again, I HATE this part of the Korean entertainment industry. Just a month's extra filming before air dates would give them what they need. Heck, a few weeks would be a boon, too.
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13 :D
January 28, 2011 at 7:27 AM
Can't wait till Monday for my weekly dose of my new drug Dream High!
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:D
January 28, 2011 at 7:28 AM
I really hope that Hye-mi doesn't break Sam Dong's heart like the previews indicate...
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Tess
January 29, 2011 at 1:55 AM
Top that off with the whole fatal illness he's bound to have and he's going to break MY heart shortly. I have a feeling our writer's going to torture the poor guy :(
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14 rose
January 28, 2011 at 7:29 AM
hello kdramaworld can i just vent my angst here , it like im living in kdrama land these days , well you know the protagonist and the bitch and the people around , i feel like seol of my princess , i like her a lot and i like the drama , but i dont want her situation , what i mean is you are surrounded by people you know or not know if they are enemies or friends but cant afford to be without there company hmmm complicated life haisttttt............
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15 maria
January 28, 2011 at 7:31 AM
calling miss Viola, Izzie, Jomo--- wait i can't even remember anymore--- who do i ask for pills to keep my Second Lead Syndrome under control?? :D
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izzie
January 28, 2011 at 7:35 AM
that would be Viola. and if I remember it right, the SLS meds are administered via IV.
I only have Joo-Won sanity pills. which reminds me that I'm running out of stock again. can't share. sorry.
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maria
January 28, 2011 at 8:05 AM
OMO, i've totally run out! --- been using extra doses to stave off my growing confusion with sam dong. dang nabbit! IV?? MUST GET SLS IV!!!!
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izzie
January 28, 2011 at 8:19 AM
why do you want to treat it? *spoken like a true Jaeshin virus carrier*
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jomo143
January 28, 2011 at 7:42 AM
I don't think you can mention the words
"Second Lead Syndrome under control"
and Viola in the same paragraph.
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izzie
January 28, 2011 at 7:47 AM
lol. those meds didn't go commercial, I think. cuz no one wanted to take it at the time that it was launched.
I didn't. Besides, I got a week's worth of glaring from Yoo Ah In when I considered taking it. can't recover from the Jaeshin virus.
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jomo143
January 28, 2011 at 7:52 AM
I just read an old post about "uljjangs" and Yoo Ah In was mentioned in 2007!!!
http://www.dramabeans.com/2007/10/where-have-all-the-uljjangs-gone/
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Neimat Ilyas
January 28, 2011 at 8:26 AM
Omo...same here~!!!!!
Its like you look around at all the guys around you and you think...why isnt there anyone even remotely as cute as Yoo Ah In....Its nothing short of depressing...WHY SO CUTE?
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Viola
January 28, 2011 at 8:50 AM
@Izzie
Yes, you are right about the antidote to combat the Second Lead Syndrome not going commercial. Initially, we projected enormous returns, but our finance department underestimated the fervency of the fangirls, especially those affected by the JSV or Jae Shin Virus. *carefully Does Not look at Izzie*
They absolutely refused to take their meds, and almost rioted. Who am I kidding? Forget almost, the rioted full scale. Mothers and ahjumas, halmonims and young girls took to the streets, to demonstrate. They refused to go to work or school, and there were fights over conflicting claims of "Mine."
With civilization on the brink of collapse, we regretfuly had to pull our product from the market. *sigh* And we spent so much money on R&D too. :(
@ I Am Not Jomo, Really
What are you implying?! :P
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izzie
January 28, 2011 at 9:02 AM
"carefully Does Not look at Izzie"
it's okay, I'm not having an episode right now. :)
Viola
January 28, 2011 at 12:41 PM
So, your dried frog pills are working? :P
izzie
January 29, 2011 at 4:29 AM
nope. JooWon sanity pills. ;) *chewing*
jomo143
January 28, 2011 at 7:49 AM
rant on
Why do I feel sometimes like I have no control over anything in my life including my POSTING NAME!
/rant off
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izzie-bot
January 28, 2011 at 8:42 AM
never happens to me.
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maria
January 28, 2011 at 8:05 AM
LOL, i'd forgotten about that little caveat. oxymoron! :D hahaha! i wonder where Viola is??
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Viola
January 28, 2011 at 8:36 AM
Awww you guys missed me! That is so super sweet! :) *hugs*
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Viola
January 28, 2011 at 8:38 AM
What are you implying Not Really Jomo?!! Lovely handle by the way. :P
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jomo143
January 28, 2011 at 9:27 AM
Viola, I am so relieved you have come back to us after "what happend" to you and Jae Shin.
I read that you tried to tell him he could see other, um, people, and he almost completely lost it. I know you were trying not to get between him and Yong Ha, but, really, you broke his heart.
You have to stay strong for him, now. If you can only endure looking into his eyes night after night, and touching his wild mane. Just let him stay with you. Your sacrifice is for the best.
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Viola
January 28, 2011 at 11:24 AM
While it is may be my curse to be all things to all men, there is only One man who is all things to me. That man is Siwon. I am completely and utterly faithful to him!!
I don't know what you have heard Jomo, but I never had any dealings with Jae Shin! I don't know where all these rumors are coming from?! Philip lee, Mr Hand Towel, Jang Seok ahjussi, and now Moony? Why am I being involved with all these men?!
"You have to stay strong for him, now. If you can only endure looking into his eyes night after night, and touching his wild mane. Just let him stay with you. Your sacrifice is for the best."
Are you trying to get me killed, woman?! *looks around in fear* You know the Jae Shin virus is particularly virulent, and it turns the infected into zombies who are very possessive! They might come after me! That's not even mentioning The Young Ha! I am afraid to even contemplate what he might do to me for even being connected to his true love!
I am here to set the record straight: I have always been on the Yummy/Moony True Love Bus. I like Moony, but we are just very good friends, and he is my admired and respected sunbae. ;)
leonardswench
January 28, 2011 at 11:37 AM
OMO OMO slapping chest in best oma's-having-a-heart-episode fashion. Viola, did you just say that??
Too bad there's not a better way to track the posts of one person on DB ....
jomo143
January 28, 2011 at 11:43 AM
I type corrected, then, and apologize profusely.
I admire your faithfulness, too.
Who has tried to claim Mooney and survived?
Viola
January 28, 2011 at 12:31 PM
@Jomo
I think I heard of some girls survived about 6 days after claiming Moony. But off course she was living in Antarctica at the time! :P
No need for apologies my darling Jomo, it's a natural misunderstanding. I will say again, Jae Shin and I are just very good friends. ;)
@LW
I was always a Yummy girl myself. Ockoala came up with the name "Moony" and she helped me to come up with "Yummy" And I am glad there is no better way to track one person's comment on DB!! Considering the things I write here; kidnappings, world domination, larceny, ....:( Oh well, at least the future black mailers would have to shift through all the posts on the OT threads to find everyhting! :P
16 Ani
January 28, 2011 at 7:34 AM
Happy Friday Beanie Family! Oh man, all I have to do is survive 6 hours of work today. *sigh* At least it's not a full day. Anyways, haven't started watching any of the 2011 dramas yet, although Dream High is definitely on my to watch list, for now the recaps will do until I'm ready to sit down and have a full on marathon. I might follow Paradise Ranch if there won't be any further recaps because I need to know about those darn kids and whatever the hell happened that caused them to split.
Anyways, I've really gotten myself into trouble with Qualifications of a Man (Q of Men?) because I got hooked and I'm trying not to watch all the episodes I can get my hands on in one go. Like any variety show, it takes getting used to. Once you do, you fall in love with the cast and their oddities. HAHAHA. Sometimes you get tired with how repetitive some episodes are because sometimes you hear the same thing (as in the Choir/Harmony and the Band mission). But in the end, you laugh, you cheer them on, and you even cry for the ups and downs, and the sad goodbyes. Hopefully, With JJ down with Runaway: Plan B, we can see more from him and hopefully he will have a chance to really develop a character for the show, especially since they are one man down (let that be a lesson kids, drugs will ruin you). I will be catching up with Strong Heart soon enough because I hear it is really good, but right now I'm way behind on 1N2D, and it's sad that that show too lost one cast and has had (or will?) have to say good bye to another one of their own. Why is it I've become more of a variety show addict than a drama addict? Because Running Man is also another one I enjoy (thank you isubs for your hard work) and I can't wait until episode 26 is subbed, when they go to manhwa land and dress up. Soooooo cute with Bo Kyung as guest.
Well, off to work. Take care dear Beanies. HWAITING jb and fri!
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Lisa
January 28, 2011 at 11:18 AM
I've also become a kvariety junkie, Ani. Last year I only saw 5 or 6 complete k-dramas (having watched 130+ dramas in the previous 4 years). Instead, i watched all 100+ episodes of Family Outing seasons 1 and 2, plus the shows you mentioned and more.
My favorite new variety program is 100 Out of 100 aka Oh! My School.
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Ani
January 28, 2011 at 4:29 PM
Oh man! I loved Family Outing. I got mad when Park Yejin and Chunderella left. They were among my favorites. It just wasn't the same without them. The Parks didn't bring much to the placte after a while. *sigh* Good times. I always thought FO2 was a total fail, although Seungril (I forgot his name) and the comedian girl with the major crush on KJK and Oska were AWESOME. But good to know I'm not alone. HAHAHA. I'll definitely look into 100 out of 100. XD
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17 Mayounaise
January 28, 2011 at 7:40 AM
Woo-hoo! TGIF! Gonna go back to my hometown tomorrow and do nothing but k-dramathoning with my bestie.
Am loving My Princess & Dream High at the moment. Slow internet connection didn't managed to stop me from staying in the loop. I offered to keep my friend company in her office while she's working overtime so that I can watch the episodes from youtube in her IPHONE -mine is blackberry & there's additional charges for streaming. Am missing the High Def file for ultimate viewing, but for now small iphone screen size would be sufficient to alleviate those withdraws...
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18 Dara
January 28, 2011 at 7:40 AM
Jeez, started on 'East of Eden' days ago. The childhood story was great, Kim Bum also was great. But, when he grew up to be SSH *sigh* everybody seems to act well accept him, lol.
I love his two brothers tho, they acted well. But the story mehhhhh, his mom screamed at her sons all the time. I couldn't connect with SSH and he even got the AWARD!
Phew! gotta rant somewhere. 56eps and I was like fast forward most of the time.
I just realize I have no love for makjang at all, they tend to make tearjerker scene with no reason. -_-!!
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clichique
January 28, 2011 at 10:49 AM
If you're watching My Princess...
SSH does so much better with comedy. He should've gone down the road of comedy years ago. But instead they kept putting him in the super dramatic stuff.
And, yes, I will bring up THE. HEAD. TILT. thing that SSH does to emote, which he did all the time especially in East of Eden, anger and frustration scenes. Yeah. Hate it. Still hate it.
Also, since you reminded me of East of Eden yet again, I am STILL flaming PISSED how they threw away Lee Dahae, this PERFECT PLOT PIECE AND CHARACTER to give way to the STUPID love story between SSH and Lee Yeonhee that I thought was childish bla bla bla I HATED IT.
Sigh.
/Rant
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jomo143
January 28, 2011 at 11:02 AM
I challenge you to go 2 theads without mentioning the head tilt.
Oh! And you can't thesaurusize yourself out of this.
No:
Slope, slant,angle,gradient,incline,tip,lean,pitch
or any other allusions to tilting.
Other examples of taboos:
"Is the room crooked, or is it SSH's head?"
"Someone fix that hat on SSH; its evenness doesn't match his head."
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Josina
January 28, 2011 at 12:05 PM
Bent?
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jomo143
January 28, 2011 at 12:09 PM
also TABOO!
Josina
January 28, 2011 at 12:34 PM
Vertically-challenged?
jomo143
January 28, 2011 at 12:58 PM
Doesn't that mean short?
Are you calling him short head?
Which rhymes with Shortbread?
Cause I could do something with that...
Josina
January 28, 2011 at 2:21 PM
You know, I hit the 'Reply' button and thought the same. I guess it should be perpendicularly-challenged. For more synonyms, just Google 'Pisa' :)
Pisa Head? Hmmm. I hope punning is more your forte... (sorry clichique, you're on your own)
clichique
January 28, 2011 at 12:15 PM
Damnit, this is going to be tough.
BUT I will try. Challenge accepted.
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jomo143
January 28, 2011 at 1:17 PM
I am watching you...
izzie
January 29, 2011 at 6:53 AM
almost... sideways?
bobble-head?
stiff neck sufferer?
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izzie
January 29, 2011 at 7:02 AM
zombie head?
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YY
January 28, 2011 at 10:13 PM
clichique sweetie, you really must STOP thinking about the head tilt....you're making me worried
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izzie
January 29, 2011 at 6:58 AM
it's like a yawn. contagious. I'm tilting my head right now. argh.
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nonski ⭐️A forever JIN who crash landed on Hyun Bins heart❤️!
January 29, 2011 at 5:23 PM
lols....clichiqe did make me notice...and now it;s actually bothering me in every episode...can;t help but look if he really is headtilting....
samgetang
January 30, 2011 at 11:24 AM
SSH is the leaning TOWEL of Korea, harharhar!
izzie
January 31, 2011 at 3:21 AM
MWAHAHA! samgetang, sister. because of you, the way I look at SSH will never be the same. :D
he deserves a monument, indeed! :D I say put his statue in the palace grounds, in the middle of a fountain. although... deciding on where the water would come out of the fountain could be a design challenge.
what would his tagline be? :)
samgetang
January 31, 2011 at 5:08 PM
Should SSH's monument look like Machete's? A towel instead of the "bahag"? ;-) With his signature headtilt made famous by clichique?
His tagline:
Lean. On. Me.
izzie
February 1, 2011 at 12:02 AM
oh... the Aljur Abrenica Machete? lol. lol. lol... talk about "wooden." :D (if SSH is Mr. Hand Towel, AA is Mr. Loincloth)
yeah... can totally picture that. and instead of machete in hand, Hand Towel will have a telephone showerhead to hold on to. very fountainy. ;)
and we have our complete tagline:
"Lean. On. Me. Together. We. Shower."
samgetang
February 1, 2011 at 3:58 AM
Lean. On. Me. Together. We. Shower. !!!!!!! LOL!
hahahahahaha! with shower on hand --- very fountainy :-) hahahahaha!
jomo143
January 30, 2011 at 1:28 PM
samgetang
Just when I thought that the Hand Towel allusions had reached their limits of absurdity, you come up with
The Leaning Towel of Korea.
I believe you have shown me there are no limits.
This makes me very happy indeed.
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samgetang
January 30, 2011 at 6:47 PM
leaning happily, too ;-) delighted to oblige, jomo :-)
samgetang
January 30, 2011 at 6:50 PM
can we make a monument of him? near the palace, pls? :-)
(sorry, clichique! this is not going according to your plans...)
leonardswench
January 28, 2011 at 11:24 AM
Ignoring any mention of EoE since my blood pressure WILL stay down today ....
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19 Alex
January 28, 2011 at 7:41 AM
As a relatively new kdrama fan, I have to ask: Is Korean society *really* so extremely prudish when it comes to nakedness, kissing, touching and sex?
Kdramas seem to suggest that a couple is expected to barely hold hands until they're safely married. Sometimes couples that have been together for years seem to do nothing more than give each other a quick peck on the cheek from time to time.
And nakedness is evidently such a huge thing, almost like Victorian England; even divorced women are shocked at seeing a guy's bare chest, or even shoulder - even her own boyfriend's!
Someone who asks for a kiss is immediatelycalled a pervert... in fact pretty much everyone is called a pervert unless they are completely sexless.
Drama convention or actual social ideal??
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safa
January 28, 2011 at 7:46 AM
I agree with you
Another question Do families actually stand in the face of marriage for reasons such as education or family background .. Such as the Middle Ages
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Alex
January 28, 2011 at 7:58 AM
Yes, that too! And is being a widower or a widow (or an orphan) really such a horrible thing that it will make a family oppose the marriage with the widower in question?
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K
January 28, 2011 at 8:00 AM
I don't know about korea. But Yes, parents have a lot of say in marriage in Asian Society. Religion, Social Status, Education Background............. the list goes on. And if you are not married by late 20's... "sigh"
I am from South Asia. And trust me i have seen so many couple breaking up due to family pressure. But some do defy the tradition like a typical K drama : )
P.S I would never choose a guy over my family either. It is considered bad luck.
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ck1Oz
January 28, 2011 at 8:40 AM
Ehm...my friend had to finish another degree the future MIL liked before she could marry her precious prestigious overseas educated son (not my words).
3 daughters later....no forgiveness for not having sons.
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FlyingAngela
January 28, 2011 at 9:57 PM
Actually, they kinda do. I can't speak for Korea or other Asian countries outside of India, but there are countries in which this is common. Marriage is a family affair for a lot of people (I'm not saying all), and arranged marriages are not out of the norm either. Also, in India, being a widow (or divorced) basically means you're a widow for life, especially if you've been married for quite sometime. There are definitely exceptions, and things are changing, but its still "taboo" to have more than one marriage.
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jomo143
January 28, 2011 at 7:58 AM
I think these TV shows do not represent real life in K.
These things happen in most "classic" romance.
What I mean by that is there are certain rules you have to follow in order to maintain the interest and keep the audience.
Did you know that the Rules of Romance include
1..The first man the heroine meets is the one she ends up with.
2..No kissing until the last page.
I love to use The Office as an example of why Rules of Romance exist. When Jim and Pam were NOT a couple, the show was at its best. When they fell in love and everyone knew, I lost interest.
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Alex
January 28, 2011 at 8:09 AM
I am also sure that some of this is just drama convention. But it seems so extreme to me that I've been wondering.
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Neimat Ilyas
January 28, 2011 at 8:21 AM
ummm it depends on the cultures of each country or even state really....I'm Indian and we do share the same 'ideals' as the korean...maybe even stricter....its just that everyone from our culture sticks to it...and religiously follows these ideals... so when ur born into and brought up in such a situation where 'skinship'[as they call it in korea] is minimal...you tend to follow it as well.
When your from a more western culture.....you might find it odd and even irritating that it takes so LONG to move forward in a relationship....but thats just how it is.....its a big step for us...when it might be even irrelevant to you'll.
Eg Holding hands!
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someone_neutral
January 28, 2011 at 10:11 AM
Kdramas are heavily "censored" by the Korean government. Note the current government policy of promoting birthrates, so it seems that every woman of child-bearing age is now getting pregnant on kdramas. To get a more realistic view of korean society, please watch korean movies which are not nearly as censored.
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hookedonmonix
January 28, 2011 at 2:16 PM
The last K-movie I watched was Kiss Me Kill Me. Can I just pretend that SamSoon and My Princess are the reality, rather than that?
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clichique
January 28, 2011 at 1:46 PM
First of all, someone mentioned Korean censorship. That is definitely very very strong here, so very little skinship is seen on TV at all. But I don't think the barely hold hands thing is valid anymore, I feel? That's a little extreme.. and I haven't seen dramas imply things like that for a while.....
Second of all, Asian culture is very conservative in nature. You need to understand that this conservative culture has been put in place by Confucian values, etc.
Yes, families put great thought into marriage. In Asian culture, the family is everything. That is why a lot of couples ultimately do not stand in the face of opposing families, because that is just an Asian value or a Confucian value. The divorcee or widow is because it represents that the woman isn't pure - I know, it is rather chauvenistic, but also I feel like in China, being a divorcee or a widow, especially with a child, means that the man himself will not be able to have his own child, you know?
Anyway I'm sort of having a brain fart today so nothing's coming out very coherently today. But this is some of the reason behind this. Asian culture is heavily rooted in Confucian values and that is not going to change even with modernization, etc.
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hookedonmonix
January 28, 2011 at 2:23 PM
Although, that rule only applies to the main couple in their relationship with each other. It seems that in many dramas (not just Asian dramas) the male is often enjoying a steady stream of women until he meets the lead female, with whom he proceeds with caution. And, of course, he always had a sexual relationship with the ex who he pines over.
I can't speak to the social convention of it, but dramatically speaking there's no tension when everyone gets what they want right away.
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samgetang
January 30, 2011 at 7:14 PM
"...there’s no tension when everyone gets what they want right away."
that's why it is called tension :-) there is a source of stress or sign of struggle...without which there is no drama, anticipation, excitement, reason for being, goal, etc...
if everyone got what they wanted at first episode, then there is no more story to tell.
i remember the quintessential romance novel, pride and prejudice, our lovely liz and brooding darcy...they got to 'fess up only towards the end and they did not even get to kiss (in the latest film adaptation starring hunk matthew and sexy kiera, the kiss was even added only in the US version of the film only as an afterthought ;-)
but this story stood through the test of time, became the yardstick by which all other rom novels are measured and darcy, well he became female-dom's ideal man :-) .
which brings us back to the tension. i think that's why kdramas are hugely popular now. the moment they go the western way of easy-to-get, quick-fix solutions to life...then it would be downhill for them, too.
same applies in real life, i guess. we tire easily on things we did not take much effort to attain or build. beautiful things especially relationships take some time to unfold....we love the waiting time, yeah! :-)
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hookedonmonix
January 30, 2011 at 8:23 PM
"if everyone got what they wanted at first episode, then there is no more story to tell."
-that's what I was trying to say, but not as well. :) I was pointing out that the tension is the story.
The tension is what I like about K-dramas. Some of the (in dramas at least) social conventions mirror P&P era England, and so the stories play out the same. Those "rules" are needed to keep the tension. There's of course the internal conflict keeping a couple apart (where they hate each other, or think they do) and the external conflict, like parental opposition, socioeconomic disparity (the rich can't marry the poor), meddling exes, etc. In a 16+ episode drama, you need a healthy mix of those factors. So.....wait, what am I talking about now?
oh, and LOVED Matthew MacFadyan as Darcy, but I always skip the kiss at the end. A post-tension kiss is sort of wasteful. Plus, I don't like to think of MM kissing anyone else.
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samgetang
January 30, 2011 at 11:04 PM
The tension is THE story. I'd say a definite YES on that.
Even in real life, we need a good amount of stress, the good kind, which is called EUSTRESS. This is when we aim for a goal and stretch our hearts, minds and bodies to its very limits to attain that goal, like in our work, in sports, or academics, or maybe searching and discovering something that would be beneficial to ppl or the society. The bad kind of stress is called DISTRESS. This is when there is depression, loss of hope, too much stress resulting to breakdown of mental, emotional and physical functions. In kdrama, a healthy dose of makjang with positive response from the lead actors is great and necessary. But too much negative, where everyone is just crying their hearts out at every turn and for no good reason and no solution is in sight, is just plain distressing. We dont need the drama if it will not make the characters a better person in the end. Redeeming value is important to legitimize the extent of the heavy drama that we can tolerate, hehe. In most kdramas I find that there is heart and soul...healthy eustress I would consider. In many western tv or films, this is already lacking. Just technology sometimes and fluff that is not healthy at all, like too much sex, no rules and pluralism. sad.
P&P stood the test of time because the rules are still there, as you mentioned. the sensibilities are intact. human dignity is given importance.
and yes, i love Matthew, too. ;-) agree, the kiss is not necessary. the one in my imagination was way way better, haha!
ar_arguably romantic
January 28, 2011 at 5:19 PM
I'm sure it's just kdrama conventions and partly because the broadcast stations do try to push some social agenda on how people should *ideally* be like, especially in romantic comedies that may be watched by younger people. But then how else are actresses/wives of actors able to get pregnant before they even walk down the aisle?
korean movies are a whole other thing. I am positive I saw an actor's naked white butt before in a korean movie.
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Balletgoddess
January 30, 2011 at 11:33 PM
Well I think that in terms of k-dramas and t.v. shows skinship is rare and when it does happen it's a BIG deal!! But k-movies are a whole other ball game, some of them are as normal as U.S movies (if get what I mean)
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20 dom
January 28, 2011 at 7:42 AM
Happy Friday the residents of K-Drama Lala Land..
it's been a wet friday, raining almost all day.... so many friends call in sick by the flue or cold.
hope that you all healthy!!
anyway, anybody watched paradise ranch? It might be the first flop of 2011, but I'm thinking of giving it a try, any opinions?
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21 safa
January 28, 2011 at 7:43 AM
why are you talking about the kiss in theread not in the recops?
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mapagpatol
January 28, 2011 at 7:55 AM
because this is an open thread.
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22 hester
January 28, 2011 at 7:52 AM
Happy Friday, addicts! :)
So--I need a little help... I totally lost steam on Secret Garden around episode 14 and still haven't finished it.
Now, I am filled with apprehension that all the awesome might be gone, now that the glare from all those sparkles has worn off. :-/
It doesn't help that I always skim through the recaps (because I'm intensely curious but hate spoilers) and Ra-im's tearstained face is so oft present in the episodes to come.
What to do??
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Neimat Ilyas
January 28, 2011 at 8:01 AM
NOOOOO Continue watching!!!! I admit it did get slow right at where you've stopped....or no actually even before that...but just WATCH IT....beyond all those tears theres still a bit a cute and even Humour~! WATCH IT WATCH IT WATCH IT!!!!
If you want you can read the episode that put you to sleep and then watch only the ones that look interesting~!
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flowerpower
January 28, 2011 at 8:12 AM
I second this, you should definetly watch it until the end, sometimes recaps just don't do justice to episodes, and once you watch it you will see why this drama was so popular (actually still is)!!!!!!!!
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A
January 28, 2011 at 3:57 PM
You should definitely finish!
Recaps do not cover all the hilarious or heart-warming details like watching it does!
Stick with it!!! It'll get better!
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hester
January 28, 2011 at 8:13 PM
Thanks for the encouragement guys! I'm going to start by watching one episode tonight... fingers crossed that I'll get sucked back in! :)
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Elle-Emme
January 31, 2011 at 3:41 PM
watch it marathon it
you will get swept up again
i did a rewatch too after having given up
was like a crack attidict trying to get the special subtitles
it is really good
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23 astoldbyannabanana
January 28, 2011 at 7:54 AM
The one things that's been bothering me a lot about Dream High is why are they freezing the actors?
Is not one else distracted by how you can always see their breath? I know they may be shooting in an open set, but it makes it less believable when you can see the breaths of students supposedly in an expensive indoor school.
You'd think that with all these pop idols and movie stars involved, they'd at least bother to construct an indoor set or set up some heaters, etc.
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merriweather
January 28, 2011 at 8:20 AM
Supposedly heaters are too noisy or something. T_T I always see BTS with actors who are in massive coats but they're wearing only a few layers onset. I forget how cold it gets in Korea!
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annie
January 28, 2011 at 11:23 AM
If heaters are too noisy they should bring in radiant ones that don't have fans. Or those braziers that they have at outdoor weddings. I find the icy breaths disturbing too, to the point I can't concentrate on what's actually happening in the drama - I just start worrying about the actors!
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ar_arguably romantic
January 28, 2011 at 5:23 PM
I worry about them too, especially when their breath-clouds get huge. It was below freezing in the city where I live this week that I was wearing 2 layers of everything underneath my huge puffy coat and some of my breath clouds were as big as some of the actors. And omg, those girls are wearing skirts! I wonder how the heating system works in South Korea. My school is perfectly able to stay reasonably warm without loud radiator fan noises.
I wonder if some actors deliberately lose weight before shooting a winter drama so they can wear 2 layers of clothing without looking bulky.
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Neimat Ilyas
January 28, 2011 at 8:31 AM
I heard they would put Ice in their mouth before shooting a scene so their breath is not as warm as it is...but it doesn't really hold for very long....and besides ICE inside your mouth in that freezing weather is just inhumane!
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Tess
January 29, 2011 at 2:17 AM
This made me smile :) HOW do you notice something like that? Everyone else is stressing over Second Lead Syndrome and you notice that Hye Mi looks a bit cold :P
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24 snooziit
January 28, 2011 at 7:55 AM
No Sign lovers here? I have to admit I absolutely love My Princess so far, but I love Sign equally much! I'd be so torn if I had to choose between which one to watch on Wednesdays and Thursdays!
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jomo143
January 28, 2011 at 8:04 AM
I watched half of Ep 1, but I admit it was a little too much thinking. Should I go back and give it a try?
It is also not being recapped here, so there is not as much discussion.
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snooziit
January 28, 2011 at 8:51 AM
Yes definitely! episodes 5 and 6 were the clinchers for me! I'm hoping it stays just as good all the way to the end, I haven't seen 7 and 8 yet, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed!
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mskololia
January 28, 2011 at 12:09 PM
Here's a link to an article about the drama. It may help you.
http://10.asiae.co.kr/Articles/new_view.htm?sec=ent2&a_id=2011012809425504582
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jomo143
January 28, 2011 at 1:13 PM
Thanks - I will check it out!
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mskololia
January 28, 2011 at 8:17 AM
Happy OT peeps!
I am a Sign fan...so far. ;)
Not watching any of the trendies because my plate is full with Yacha and Once Upon a Time in Saengchori....
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Birdie
January 28, 2011 at 1:58 PM
I had dropped MP in favour of Sign. If you can get past episode 1 and the male lead, it is very interesting. Good pace and storyline. It is nice to watch a drama with no eye-candy and idols-just average looks like regular people and solid acting.
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Josina
January 28, 2011 at 2:26 PM
Average? None of our police force look like THAT (not that I'm acquainted with all of them, of course).
Sign is going to take my full attention so I'm holding off until it's finished and I have the house to myself.
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25 Neimat Ilyas
January 28, 2011 at 7:55 AM
Hey! so apparently theres 2 more eps of Secret Garden coming out~?! WHAT are they gonna show??? I reaally liked the drama and i would love to see more...but the last episode just ENDED IT.....like married-with-3-kids-and-all ENDED IT!!! anyway im looking forward to that!!
I wanna start dream high and my princess...but i dun really like waiting for the episodes every week.....Should start or no?
@DramaBeans : PLEASE Open a facebook page or twitter account......I wanna spread the love!
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K
January 28, 2011 at 8:11 AM
I know....... i prefer FB
: )
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Kristal
January 28, 2011 at 10:09 AM
Just start a facebook fanpage for the site. I'll join fo sho! I actually thought of starting it myself but didn't know if anyone would actually join or the owners of the site would be ok with it.
I'm pretty sure javabeans has her own twitter account already.
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Neimat Ilyas
January 30, 2011 at 2:41 AM
She does??? But she probably wont give it off to her fans will she? I would LOVE TO FOLLOW HER!!!!!!!!
And yea even i thought id start a dramabeans fan page on fb but apart from me and a couple of other friends i dunno anyone else who'd join it......
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flowerpower
January 28, 2011 at 8:28 AM
Yes!!!I wan't more, more,moooore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think these two episodes will be more like the special episode. I am just hoping they show more NG's, some scenes on the dinner party, and hopefully the whole SG teams reunites to give us more insights of what happened during shooting.
I heard something funny this morning, apparently the calcium pill "Oskal 500D" rose to popularity and saw sales increase thanks to being mentioned a couple of times on the drama. Compare to other companies which paid stagering amounts of money to have an ad slot, they did not spend a single penny on Product Placement and just got lucky, and this I find funny for some reason.
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Neimat Ilyas
January 28, 2011 at 8:34 AM
hahaha that crazy~! Oska500D!
maybe the special will fix the problems with the evil mother or something.....or the children get soul switched~!! I dunno =P
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halfmoon
January 28, 2011 at 9:06 AM
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Elle-Emme
January 31, 2011 at 3:46 PM
2 more sg
ok
can we have oska seul wedding
finally a wedding for our couple
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26 Christy
January 28, 2011 at 8:01 AM
I love everything about Dream High! I adore the beautiful cinematography (the atmospheric mood lighting style really draws me in), the realistic dialogues, the adorably flawed characters, the tight pacing, the energy, the cohesive intelligent writing, the OST and most of all the beautiful insight to the human condition.
When this drama ends there will still be one question that will resonate within you-" what is your dream?" It is Dream High's ability to throw back that question to a wide spectrum and types of viewers that makes it so unforgettable and successful in terms of impact. It may be a drama about high school idol wannabes but it transcends the teenybopper market. Haven't seen a drama as inspiring as Dream High for a long, long time.
It makes You are Beautiful look like kindergarten.
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Josina
January 28, 2011 at 8:24 AM
it transcends the teenybopper market
That's what I've been wondering about, and what has stopped me from giving this drama a go. Glee is about as much teenage angst as I can handle right now.
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Tess
January 29, 2011 at 2:21 AM
GLEEEEEEEEEEE :D <3
Musical teenage angst shows are the best, clearly :)
And now, I'd never tell any of my friends (non-kdrama-addicts, obviously) this, so shh...
But Dream High's better. Give it a shot, c'mon.
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Josina
January 29, 2011 at 2:09 PM
I will, eventually - I can only handle one live drama at a time, and I'm still recovering from SG (it was my first live one. Guess I jumped in at the deep end).
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27 heesoup
January 28, 2011 at 8:02 AM
Paradise Ranch doesn't seem to be a flop so far...
It's actually all right I think.
It's so much better than Heading to the Ground...haha
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28 porninja
January 28, 2011 at 8:10 AM
I'm currently keeping up with Dream High, My Princess and Paradise Ranch (though I'm still trying to bring myself to watch the second ep after the just so-so start).
And I think I'm addicted to Dream High. Why why why did they have to show the preview for Episode 8 at the end of Episode 7, it's just making me more anxious for it. I'm re-watching clips of the performances from Episode 7, to hopefully successfully keep me from going insane (LOVE THE PIL-SOOK/JASON/JIN-GOOK/BAEKHEE ONE).
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Tess
January 29, 2011 at 2:25 AM
Doesn't the suspense just kill you?!!
I miss the days when I didn't watch shows as they were being aired - watching marathons may be bad for your school marks, but it's a lot better for your heart!!
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29 ilukd
January 28, 2011 at 8:11 AM
Happy friday .... welll Dream High & My Princess is keeping me busy .
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30 merriweather
January 28, 2011 at 8:25 AM
Am I the only person who's constantly replayed that performance in ep 7 with Jason, Pil Sook, Baek Hee and Jin Guk? I'm mainly doing it for Jason/Pil Sook because they look adorable together and I love how they redid the song.
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31 DIANE
January 28, 2011 at 8:25 AM
I am so confuse about My princess
ep 7. he wants to have her as simple girl instead of being princess. because of her he lost his father and fortune. But they do have feeling for each other
is that why he said to her that let go being pricess
and come back with her family and to him??????
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Cherry
January 28, 2011 at 8:33 AM
That line he said confused me as well, i was like "wth"
She's never been his so it's like he was saying "Stop being a princess & we can be lovers" this is not something he could trade or something but i just can't hate him, he's too cute to be evil :D
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jomo143
January 28, 2011 at 9:17 AM
I understood it as HIS issue of wanting her to stop and MAYBE she would be with him. He has never really had her.
The words kinduv slipped out against his will.
Which is why Seul was so shocked after he said it, and he had to do the door lean.
door lean [n. compound] A Kdrama phenomenon which occurs after the lead character admits a supressed truth. The force of the words leaving the body drives the hero back, and he is unable to support himself without the aid of a sold surface.
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MJP
January 28, 2011 at 11:08 AM
I think you are absolutely hilarious!
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Hanami
January 28, 2011 at 11:10 AM
LOL "door lean... A Kdrama phenomenon..." LOL
That was sooo funny!
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Josina
January 29, 2011 at 2:12 PM
I actually ended up on this site because after my third kdrama I thought, 'what's up with those piggybacks?' and I LOVE those cultural guides.
Any chance of doing a kdrama phenomenictionary?
Pretty please?
With a cherry on top?
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samgetang
January 30, 2011 at 11:28 AM
laughed so hard on the door lean! you are hilarious, jomo! ;-) are you korean, by the way?
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jomo143
January 30, 2011 at 1:32 PM
No, American by way of Irish and German immigrants.
Can I convert to Koreanism?
samgetang
January 30, 2011 at 7:32 PM
Cool! Im amazed with how the Korean wave has reached out far and wide in all parts of the world. Not surprising though. Been to Korea and had a glimpse of their culture and history. It's steeped in sacrifice and love for their country -- that's why their stories have depth of character, heart and soul... even the fluffy, sweet varieties like MP. You can always get something you can chew your teeth on.
32 Kender
January 28, 2011 at 8:30 AM
Happy Friday~~~!
I checked out New Gisaeng Story on a whim the other day.. It's interesting, but a bit slow and a bit odd and I really don't know how I feel about it.
Oddly, I'm already completely on board with the main couple even though they've barely interacted and the guy's kind of an ass (but so very pretty) and I can't stop staring at the main girl's plastic nose. And the extreme number of rookie actors is completely throwing me off because I'm so used to recognizing people left and right. (There are a few people I recognize, like Dae-woong's friend from MGIAG and Yeohwa's father from King Geunchogo.)
There's some makjang nonsense already -- one of the girls has THREE mothers and only knows about one, and the main couple are from polar opposite ends of the class spectrum -- that might get annoying, but I plan on continuing to watch at least into this coming weekend. I dunno how long it'll hold my attention, though.
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xiaoSxin
January 28, 2011 at 8:55 AM
Happy Friday! I've been meaning to check it out but I need to finish CitC first (TODAY) before I start a new one. I've been putting it off for a while now.. and I think endodo4ever already finished it last night.
Any plans for today? ^^
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Kender
January 28, 2011 at 11:25 AM
Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssss finish CitC! It's so goooooooooood~ ♥
It'd be fun if you could watch with me~~ :D It doesn't sound like any of our posse's gonna give it a shot, which is fine 'cause I don't know if it would appeal to them. But I watched the entirety of Daddy's Girl even while knowing it was awful, so obviously I have a lower threshold than they do. XD
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Kender
January 28, 2011 at 11:34 AM
Er, higher threshold. Higher tolerance for crap.
I know what I'm saying. Words, I know how to use them! ><
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supah
January 28, 2011 at 1:00 PM
Whut? I'm not the only one on the planet watching this? Niceness.
I'm liking the show, I'm liking it a lot, but not loving it.
I'm on-board with the couple too. I feel they have chemistry together and adored their little bonding scene over 'Andre'.
I'm actually surprised as to how much I like the actor Sung Hoon. I do see the little nuances and a sensitivity and boy-next-doorness, which oh so subtly sets him apart from evvvery chaebol-type in every Daily-Weekend drama, everrr!
And it's so old-fashioned! The hairpin! Awwww! And he sighed! *clutches heart and dies a little*
I'm also unable to forget the score that plays in the scene he first sees her.
But the moment he veers Kim Min-joon-wards I'm checking out.
I think the veteran actors are great! But a little pissed off that Im Hyuk is playing an... well, Idiot. But maybe I'll grow to love him as I did in other roles.
Also strangely looking forward to Sa-ran meeting mother #3, the head cook.
What did you think of the voulez-voulez chick? Her perpetually glum face is so weird, considering what she gets up to, but she's weird in a totally good way.
Aww, Kim Ho-chang?! <3
He'll always remain Taejunaaah to me, aka. the guy Song Joong-ki kissed -- right on the lips. (O, I haz video evidence.)
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Kender
January 28, 2011 at 2:12 PM
Y'know, I say I don't know how I feel about it, but I've been rewatching scenes all day, and visiting the Soompi thread, and the official site, and watching the trailer again, and editing subs so my buddy xiaoSxin can watch it, and I typed up this long-ish post.. Obviously I like it much more than I'd thought. XD
I like Sung Hoon too, he's pretty. (I'm shallow haha.) I literally squeed myself into a puddle when he was fantasizing about getting Saran's number on the ski slope. He's so suave in his head, it's adorable. And when he and Saran were unable to sleep because they were thinking about each other it was SO CUTE. Also, his hate-hate relationship with poor Andre.. XD
Also! At the sogaeting, she put that barrette on the table because she KNEW Damo would recognize it, and he KNEW she knew he would. And the speed with which he grabbed it is basically proof that he's interested, so even though the girls played dirty and set him up with Rara, both he and Saran know the other is at least a little interested. (And the mild flirting during the drinking game was adorable.)
I foresee conflict coming with Damo's doctor friend though, the one who likes Saran. And obviously Rara's gonna be a brat 'cause she wants Damo and, well, is a brat.
One thing I really wanna know is what the deal is with Mom 3. Moms 1 and 2 I get, but how does Mom 3 fit in? Is she the real birth mother who gave her baby up, and then Mom 2 gave the baby to Mom 1? Was she a surrogate who got unusually attached? Was she Dad 's mistress and gave up her baby to him, only to have him give it to his brother? Then why does Mom 2 care? WHAT IS GOING ON?
And I dunno if it's just me, but I've been giggling like a loon at everyone's names. Damo = the drama with HJW; Saran = Saran Wrap; Rara = lalala~ ♪; Gongjoo = princess; Cha Rari (Rara's mom) = that line from Tim's song 그대여 ("웃는 것 조차 힘든 날엔 차라리 소리 내 울어요")..
Voulez-voulez? I don't speak French, I have no idea who you're talking about. D: Do you mean Gong-joo, Saran's stepsister? i.e. the girl from the opening scene in ep 1? She seems quirky, I kinda like her. If nothing else she'll be an interesting character.
Yesssss, Kim Ho-chang. He's a cutie, I love his huge grin. ♥
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supah
January 28, 2011 at 4:04 PM
Oh I concur. You kow what it is? It's got its set of negatives, but on the whole it's SO alluring. I'm wanting moar! Moar Damo!
Did I forget to mention the part about him being lethally pretty? D'oh! Yeah, he makes me giddy.
Yes! Her sneaky way of flirting.
The writer seems to know what she's doing with the OTP. Saran has kind of got all the makings of a gisaeng (since we know the drama's headed there anyway) and that means she also knows how to lure in the men in her own subtle ways. (Bringin' the boys to the yard!)
I feel bad for the doctor, he seems like such a nice guy. Rara seems a harmless brat now but yeah I can totally see her throwing bitchfits over Damo in future.
Yes, that's the girl, the one in the opening scene, ditto!
The characters are all a bit underdeveloped yet but yeah, let's buckle up, it's a looooooooong ride.
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Kender
January 28, 2011 at 4:48 PM
Lethally pretty indeed. I've been calling him Pretty Boy when I spazz about it on twitter (I'm notorious for my running commentaries when I'm watching dramas haha). I'm excited for him and Saran to interact together more.
Rara, though, is totally gonna be a bitch later, she's so self-absorbed. Like the way she dragged all the other girls away from the resort when her filling fell out, not even letting them eat first because she couldn't eat. And the way she jealously asked one of the girls if Saran was pretty after that one gisaeng lady gave Saran her card, as if it had never occurred to her that any of her friends could be considered pretty. I like her now, but I know she's going to be horribly loathsome later.
But I love all the girls in the group. Saran's lovely (even with her plastic nose) and has a quiet calm that balances out her friends; Rara's a brat, but she's kind of funny for now; Ahmi seems down-to-earth and reminds me of Moon Chae-won; and the fourth girl (Joo-ah? Can't remember her name and I'm too lazy to look it up) is a kinda spunky and good-humored. And then of course I love the boys, they're adorbs. ♥
I'm not familiar with the writer (looked her up, and I've never seen any of her previous dramas), but the Soompi talk is that all her leading ladies are like Saran, poor-yet-dignified and preternaturally gorgeous, and her leading men are manly in every sense of the word. That could get old fast, but I feel like it would work well in this modern-day gisaeng world she's created.
And yeah, her characters are underdeveloped right now, but I can forgive that since we have 50 eps or so to go. But if I don't get some more characterization in the next few eps I'm gonna be annoyed.
In the meantime, yayyyyyyyy for a new episode tomorrow! The good thing about starting it so late in the week is that I don't have to wait long for my next fix haha.
supah
January 28, 2011 at 8:50 PM
Aaaargh! There are two many characters to remember let alone make a note of their names hehe!
But did you say Rara's mother's called Rari? OMO!
The whiny annoying one?
You were right about the plot being slow, if they continue at this pace it'll become excruuuutiating.
I've not watched any of Im Soo-han's dramas either but she appears to be well-known and liked, and like you say recycling the same characters. But I'm definitely with you on how well the characters fit the gisaeng theme.
I also like Damo, he's a chaebol, juust a bit arrogant but one who DOESN'T have issues for once. So the family's a bit abnormal, like his sibling rivalry against a dog but there's no birth secret, the daddy issues are relatively harmless, his mother isn't a wailing banshee... oh we know he WILL have issues, but all those will come later.
Anyways... yay for new episodes! The ones that will likely make or break whatever love I have for the show...
Kender
January 28, 2011 at 10:21 PM
I made a point to remember the girls, since I'm sure they'll be showing up later. The only boys I remember are Damo (apparently named after a singer, which explains that joke Saran made about his name that I didn't get) and Oh Jin-am, the doctor who likes Saran.
Yeah, Rari. Not the whiny one, the classier one, the one Rara actually calls Mom. XD
I'm super excited, actually.. This is what happens when I allow myself to obsess. ><
33 mud
January 28, 2011 at 8:42 AM
@19 Alex
Hello and welcome to open thread! As an avid re-reader of Dramabeans posts (it's all so interesting!!), she had discussed the appearance of more sex in the media in this post:
http://www.dramabeans.com/2007/08/the-sex-and-the-city-effect/
I think there are quite a few dramas that don't treat sex as such a big deal, you just have to look for them. The article mentions Coffee Prince, Romance Hunter and Hyena. Of those I've only watched CP and I have to say it was handled very tastefully in that series. It just seemed like a natural progression between Eun Chan and Han Gyul. The skinship between the older couple, in the sense that their relationship was in the more mature stages, was very befitting for them at that stage.
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Alex
January 28, 2011 at 8:51 AM
Oh, yes, that answers my question exactly. :-) Thank you for the link!
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Alex
January 28, 2011 at 8:59 AM
Also, thank you for the friendly welcome. :-)
I have seen some dramas in which sex wasn't such a big deal (Kim Sam Soon, Soulmate - though I've only seen some eps of it -, and Dal Ja's Spring).
Lately, there have just been so many odd attacks of "OMG I inadvertently saw a guy's naked shoulder OMG OMG I am shocked!!!" and "how can I get her to (gasp!) touch my hand without seeming like a pervert?" and "we've been a couple for months but if he tries to kiss me I act shocked and call him a pervert".
Initially I just thought the occasional odd prudishness was a kdrama convention, or played for laughs. I guess that's what it is, mostly. :-)
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Alex
January 28, 2011 at 9:06 AM
Romance Hunter looks like a great kdrama - are there subs anywhere?
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34 ck1Oz
January 28, 2011 at 8:44 AM
Could I request some spoilers please.Someone recommended the JD Pride.
That is all good except it's all broken links.The one episode I found was ep 11 part 1.
I have no idea what happened.There was a Chinese subbed,audio not synched of a scene where he ?proposed.I don't have a clue as the voices were not in synched with the video.
So why did people like it?So what happened to the couple?
Mysoju,dramasub,dramafever is not working and I'm not in the US so can't get dramafever. or dramacrazy.
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ck1Oz
January 28, 2011 at 8:46 AM
Sorry I meant I can get dramacrazy but that had broken links for ep 11 as well.
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Lacey
January 28, 2011 at 9:58 AM
Try Epdrama.com
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isabelh
January 28, 2011 at 2:20 PM
Silent Regrets has it as either MU or sendspace ddl; page 38 of Completed J dramas. Aja-Aja also has it if you are a member. You really should watch it to get the full impact.
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CapitalScandalRocks
January 28, 2011 at 10:38 AM
JD PRIDE SPOILERS**************
Halu and Aki do get together in the last episode...
I think people like it for its raw energy, for Kimatku(???) charisma and the beautiful chemistry between the leads.......
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hookedonmonix
January 28, 2011 at 2:32 PM
I LOVE Pride, and I hate hockey. ha. But Kimura Takuya is amazing. I tried re-watching it recently. The broken links of dramacrazy have only been for one segment of each episode (usually the first) until the last ep.
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ck1Oz
January 28, 2011 at 7:28 PM
Thanks for all that.I will look harder for the links.
Epdrama are full of ads and they ask personal details like email etc before proceeding.
Thanks, the acting and chemistry are feedbacks I was looking for.
@Isablehl-wow I love silentregrets.Great site never heard of it before.
Haha...my weekend is now full.
And the best part they have Fated To Love You which I've just started.Thank goodness now I don't have to go to a streaming site now.I am doing figurative cartwheels at the moment to have found this site :-)
I've been having major SG withdrawals and am trying TW and JD because the styles are so different.
Since I'm posting....annyeong questions987.I betcha you're here somewhere.
I've got DH ep 1 uploaded ready for you.Me...as you can tell will be watching TW and JW.LOL.
It's been flat out this week.No?GO when up when 2 of us were doing final edits yesterday and softsubs were being cut.We were like 30 min behing the main subber as well.It felt like a merry go round.
Aish...I felt a wee bit stressed.
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hookedonmonix
January 30, 2011 at 8:26 PM
at least watch the end scene on you tube. You'll have to enter "eng sub" or "english subbed" or you'll get WAY too many irrelevant replies. just sayin'
sigh..."maybe" *shakes head* "must be." ...sigh.
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35 mud
January 28, 2011 at 8:46 AM
drats....i just noticed the reply button.... i don't post in open thread often...or much in general... the lurker life is for me=)
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36 Brit from Blighty
January 28, 2011 at 8:48 AM
You know that witchy Yoon joo? Surely she's had too much botox. Her face never moves and this makes me want to slap it.
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Viola
January 28, 2011 at 8:57 AM
You are too kind. When in episode 8 She tells Seul to "get up. Get UP..." I imagined raking my nails across her face.
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leonardswench
January 28, 2011 at 11:35 AM
Really, I've imagined a dozen ending scenarios for the BOT, and all I really want to happen is for Seol to get both men and the monarchy and the museum and the wealth and the BOT gets ...
her real job back at Mdm. Toussards? OR
her new job at the newly commissioned Korean Aerospace Program and we launch her to Alpha Centauri to see if she survives the trip ...
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Brit from Blighty
January 28, 2011 at 11:45 AM
Mdm Toussards! I thought I'd seen her somewhere before:D
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Viola
January 28, 2011 at 12:37 PM
Omo! What did the poor aliens at Alpha Centauri do to deserve her?! I think if we send her there, they might construct this as an act of war! :P
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leonardswench
January 28, 2011 at 3:15 PM
Well, I don't think we'll have to go to arms with the Alpha Centaurians, since there's that small matter of the missing fuel cell and inexplicable "Tennessee fire" in the engine compartment that means the BOT actually gets to be a million bits of nothingness in space for eternity ...
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Viola
January 28, 2011 at 3:21 PM
Oooh Nice one! I especially like the "Tenesse Fire" bit. Must never forget Brookeve unnie's method of solving all problems with fire! :P
jomo143
January 28, 2011 at 3:35 PM
Today she had a new one:
Giving teenagers weapons seems to be a good option, too.
brookeeve
January 29, 2011 at 9:24 AM
But really, it's not all teenagers that should have weapons. Just Drama-inclined, gossip-addicted, hormonal teenagers. Otherwise, really, what's the point?
37 xiaoSxin
January 28, 2011 at 8:57 AM
HAPPY FRIDAY!!!
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38 penny
January 28, 2011 at 9:00 AM
I am loving 'My Princess' at the moment so thank you for the lovely and wonder recaps. I just wanted to know when will 'Chuno' be done with recaps; or, are the people that was recapping it are going to finish it? I've been reading the recaps because its quicker for me because I don't have time as of yet to actually sit down and see the entire drama. Thank you =)
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39 blueangel
January 28, 2011 at 9:05 AM
Want to it be monday already so i can watch find out what happens in Dream High episode 8. Kinda want to just speed up time just to see what happens and then reverse time so i can have the weekends back. i know, i'm so evil right?
Anyway dramas you guys can't wait to air this week?
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40 jully moue
January 28, 2011 at 9:19 AM
not recapping paradise ranch ep 2?
even though its rather flawed but the story makes me want to see, at least i want to give it a chance till ep 5, if they still appear adamant on not showing flashbacks and just keep vaguely referencing back to the thing, then i'll give up..
i'm interested to see what happened that rendered the girl to actually be pleased and want to chat up with her ex husband... i just cant come up with a story line that could follow her reaction...
anyway, i dont think the chinese subs help me in understanding the drama at all.
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jomo143
January 28, 2011 at 9:37 AM
I watched it, and was rather confused.
My recap would be something like:
She said this thing that made no sense, so he answered, and then they did this thing that was really confusing, and would never happen, so then, he had to looked SHOCKED and ANGRY.
So she cried and VOWED to get the ranch back.
But he WON'T HELP.
****OH MY GOD! That is the cutest PONY I have ever seen!!****
So she asked the other guy.
But he suddenly became SHOCKED and ANGRY.
So she cried and VOWED to get the ranch back.
So they put up a clotheline with surveying equipment.
****OH MY GOD! That is the cutest PONY I have ever seen!!****
Here is my suitcase, don't tell Grampa the truth.
****OH MY GOD! That is the cutest PONY I have ever seen!!****
Friends again? OK.
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Josina
January 28, 2011 at 10:05 AM
I'll have to recommend this to my sister then. She's into horses but couldn't give a monkeys about plot development.
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Daniela
January 28, 2011 at 10:24 AM
Javabeans seriously has to consider to put this as part of the actual recap. Well, with the pony part i´ll be happy. Haha that was so funny. I need that someone explain me some things about the second episode.
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Viola
January 28, 2011 at 11:34 AM
Jomo you are on a roll today!
****OH MY GOD! That is the cutest PONY I have ever seen!!****
ROTFLMAO :)
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jomo143
January 28, 2011 at 11:49 AM
Did you watch the show?
It is the cutest pony I have EVER seen.
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jully moue
January 28, 2011 at 1:01 PM
hahaha, thanks jomo, you made my night.
your recap are hella funny!
anyway, you remind me of the teaser recap that we once had for Bad Guy! (did you watch? I just read the recaps.)
:)
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YY
January 28, 2011 at 10:06 PM
Grampa????? Did you say Grampa????? There's a Grampa in this show????? OMG I am so watching it!!!!!
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41 Vendetta
January 28, 2011 at 9:28 AM
Absolutely exhausted..... -dies out-
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danna
January 28, 2011 at 10:53 AM
me too...I despise Fridays!
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42 Daniela
January 28, 2011 at 10:16 AM
Hi! Happy Friday! I return to school on Monday. Im excited but at the same time, vacations are over. Less k-drama time. I’m going to be almost all day in school. The good part is that I have a laptop and my school gives me free internet (yay!), and in my free time I can catch up with kdramas, Dramabeans…and homework (believe me, there will be free time, is the way I made my schedule).
Hey Javabeans, this are old news, old old news, but I just discover that Playful Kiss had special episodes. I was watching a clip from Dream High (ok,ok, I was watching the Genie clip for the tenth time) and I don’t know how I ended on a fanvid about the specials. I didn’t watch Playful Kiss, I just read the recaps. The reason why mention it it’s because in one of them he is using the messy perm again! I also think that he looks better with the perm. The perm is a little less messy, but messy at the end. Maybe you already watched it, but just a comment.
Happy weekend!
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Daniela
January 28, 2011 at 10:40 AM
wow, my conjugation of verbs sucks.
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brookeeve
January 28, 2011 at 1:56 PM
Act like you were just being funny and did it on purpose.
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43 @.@
January 28, 2011 at 10:25 AM
Hello, FRIENDS!!!!! I am so happy to spend a Fridya night with you all!!!
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44 @.@
January 28, 2011 at 10:42 AM
I finished It's OK Daddy's Girl, and it was LOVELY!!!! True,it's more of a family drama, but it was heartwarming and I like how the main characters are smart and kind and realistic and have common sense.
I finished Secret Garden too...I read the recaps of te finale before actually watching it, but that didn't take away from the experience. Although I don't fully like Ra Im, I did like practically everything else. Loved Oska, Taesun, Seul, and of course JooWon!
As for My Princes it is perfect! I love my romantic comedies (as attested by the fact that I've seen My Girlfriend is a Gumiho, Personal Taste, Oh My Lady! , The Man Who Wouldn't Marry, You're Beautiful, etc. etc.)
and this drama fits the bill. Cute couple, nice plot, mostly sunny, but a bit of drama. the acting is actually pretty solid, and I'm sooo gonna keep watching this drama.
As for Dream High, a busy week has kept me from watching it, but drama marathon weekend starts now, and I'm definitely catching up on all the episodes. The drama did NOT appeal to me at first, because it was idol-filled and high-school-themed, but after reading the recaps, I might be missing out on something....
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Viola
January 28, 2011 at 12:38 PM
Hello dear! :)
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45 fan
January 28, 2011 at 10:43 AM
I CANNOT WAIT FOR MY PRINCESS EP NEXT WEEEEEKKKK!!
some people said that ep 8 was boring...
ommmggggoooddnnesss my heart was like pounding right out of my chest the whole time!
haeyoung is developing feelings for seul more and more as the seconds tick and HE even knows it!!
I LOOOVEE IT!
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fan
January 28, 2011 at 10:45 AM
OH!
I WISH KIM TAE HEE AND SONG SEUNG HEON WOULD JUST DATE ALREADY... IN REAL LIFE~
THEY ARE SOOOOO DARRN CUUUUUTTEEE TOGETHER <3
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clichique
January 28, 2011 at 10:57 AM
I'd totally ship this in real life.
Seriously. SSH, get it together. JUST MARRY HER ALREADY AND I CAN STEAL YOUR BABIES I MEAN ADMIRE YOUR BABIES
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fan
January 28, 2011 at 2:19 PM
haha you're too funny!
I would admire them too *wink* *wink*
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Tess
January 29, 2011 at 2:44 AM
Me too! Seol's crying was so convincing that by the end I was so exhausted that for a moment I thought I'd been the one crying.
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46 djeedjes
January 28, 2011 at 10:54 AM
My last day in Europe, the last night in Paris.
It has been a great experience, since this is my first time visiting Europe.
Definitely will come back sometime in the future, and explore more! I want to go to UK, Germany, Netherlands, etc!
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jomo143
January 28, 2011 at 11:11 AM
I loved Paris.
There was a lot of food in my fond memories of that town.
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FlyingAngela
January 28, 2011 at 10:06 PM
If you go to Paris, not remembering the food would be a crime... it was amazing.
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samgetang
January 30, 2011 at 11:35 AM
i loved the cheese, foie gras and the wine ;-) what's not to love in Paris?
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lb_tmi
January 29, 2011 at 4:31 AM
so that's where you've been!!! i was so worried that you'd fallen off the face of the earth!! glad you were on vacation!! and enjoying it!
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47 clichique
January 28, 2011 at 11:01 AM
Okay. Feeling rather drained. Nice for it to be the weekend. Alas!
Anyone watching Taisetsu na whatever oshiete kureta subete bla bla I am mixing all the Japanese together because the title is so freaking long. I have suspicions that psychotic/bipolar girl could be.... a man who had a sex change?! I seriously doubt Shuuji and psychotic girl did anything. And on second thought what if this was all a plot with his brother, the one who spitefully ripped up the wedding invitation?
Onto cheerier things... where are the Chinese wuxia girls? I remember there were some here... :( I started rewatching Count of Mt. Deer (Lu Ding Ji), the 1998 version, for probably the fifth time in my life. Yeah. Still brings me LOLs to this day... LOL.
ALSO. Finally. Australian Open. Sad that Nadal was injured during the game, but totally respect that he played through the entire game (I WAS ROOTING FOR HIM TO WIN!!!). Also... Federer, why did you lose. WHY.
FRUSTRATION. Thank god it's Friday.
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ockoala
January 28, 2011 at 2:53 PM
You calling for me? Chinese wuxia girls. LOL. That's a nice way of putting it - rather than ockoala and mookie span the hell out of OT for 2 months last year spazzing about wuxia dramas.
You're watching the Jordan Chan version of DoMD? Not my favorite. At all.
I'm 100% a 1984 DoMD fangirl - still the best adaptation of a Louis Cha wuxia novel I have ever seen.
Young Tony Leung and Young Andy Lau created the first ever bromance on network television. Every bromance on any drama since then have to bow three times to these two guys.
Wei Xiao Bao had seven wives because he could not be with his true love - Emperor Kangxi. That is my story and I'm sticking to it.
Sometimes when I watch DoMD, I get this urge to pee, because I'm laughing too hard. Ah, good times. :-D
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leonardswench
January 28, 2011 at 3:20 PM
Sorry, got to the image of young Tony Leung and young Andy Lau and had total brain freeze and ovary melt ....
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ockoala
January 28, 2011 at 3:37 PM
Might want to watch your ovaries and check your brain again after you see this:
http://img3.bbs.163.com/new/20101017/tvb/zt/zty_79/ae827bf63602576f2497db1209b9abd4.jpg
Both men at their utmost youthful peak. Before the hit their middle age prime, back when they were youngsters, but Tony could still out-act anyone in the room.
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clichique
January 28, 2011 at 3:50 PM
Nooo the gif doesn't work :(
leonardswench
January 28, 2011 at 8:06 PM
Unnie, it doesn't work!!!!! I want my young hot Tony and Andy!!
ockoala
January 28, 2011 at 9:32 PM
It didn't work? Bad computer. Bad.
Young Tony and Andy in DoMD 1984
http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae145/ockoala/Tony%20Leung/andytony1.jpg
Andy was Emperor Kangxi, Tony was Wei Xiaoboa, the world's most irascible scoundrel - and they were BFFs 4evar!
They met up again so infamously in 2000's Infernal Affairs.
IMO, the best movie to come out of HK.
http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae145/ockoala/Tony%20Leung/tonyandy3.jpg
They chemistry in that last scene on the rooftop was still imcomparable. They are my first and ultimate acting bromance in the entertainment industry.
ockoala
January 28, 2011 at 9:35 PM
Hhhm, my proof reading ability seems to have evaporated? Sorry for the litter of typos in the post above.
Just wanted to say that in the picture on the lower right hand corner the young Tony/Andy pic, the girl on Tony's left is in fact Carina Lau, now his wifey.
She played one of his 7 wifeys in DoMD. TBH, none of the wifeys had any real chemistry with Tony. He saved it all for Andy. :-P
clichique
January 28, 2011 at 3:50 PM
LOL that one is a very great bromance version, but I really like Jordan Chan's comedic timing. I like the lots of LOLs this version brings. Plus I think part of it is because I really grew up with the Jordan Chan version.
I will not go into the HORRID version that was the most recent Huang Xiaoming version where I wanted to punch the director because he ruined DoMD for me.
I almost felt like rewatching Smiling Wanderer for probably the fourth time... That book is tied as my favorite with Semi-gods and Demi-gods and both I've watched the adaptations many times.... Maybe I will when I'm feeling more serious. But it seems like right now I'm really up for comedy....
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ockoala
January 28, 2011 at 4:42 PM
The only redeeming thing about the 2008 Huang Xiaoming version of DoMD (renamed The Royal Tramp in English) was the kids section.
Best kids acting I have ever seen from that little boy playing little Wei Xiaobao. Little Kangxi was alright, but little Xiaobao blew me away. Cute, precocious, and spot on comedic timing and acting.
Everything else was a disaster. Except all 7 wives were actually all pretty, as opposed to a couple pretty ones and the rest are all quite unattractive, which defeats the purpose of him getting 7 hot wives.
Smiling Proud Wanderer is my fave book, and Chow Yun Fat's 1984 version remains my fave adaptation.
I am really torn about Demi-Gods and Semi-devils, because it's a masterful book, but got you get your gut torn out when only two of the three leads gets a happy ending, and the one shafted gets shafted six-ways to Sunday in each portion of the book, I wanted to create a chart for "the million ways to torture and inflict mention and physical anguish on Xiao Feng."
Anyways, enjoy your watch! I do agree that it's easiest to love whichever adaptation you grew up with. Does that mean you also love LoCH 1994 and RoCH 1995 more than its 80s classics?
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mookie
January 28, 2011 at 5:17 PM
I do agree that it’s easiest to love whichever adaptation you grew up with. Does that mean you also love LoCH 1994 and RoCH 1995 more than its 80s classics?
(haha hope codes come out right...)
So true. Back to my lifelong fangirling of JinYung. His novels are just sooo out of this world good, ANY adaptation of it is decent and entertaining enough a watch, and pawns all the shiteous scripts they are making dramas out of last decades.
This is quite sad, really.
mookie
January 28, 2011 at 5:00 PM
I dig the nick Chinese wuxia girls and I'll squeeze myself in as one. *wave and hughughug twinnie*
I fear 4 the OTers shivering and humming their Redrum at the thought of me waving my JinYong novels/dramas along with my 'I'm bacckkkkk!' muahahaha XDD
DoMD have just so many genres weaved in I'm not sure if we should label it wuxia tbh. It can very well be the mother of all the HK Gamblers, Gangsters movies. Comedy, roflmao funny. Bromance that beats all bromance [ very off tangent sidenote (because I saw 10 min of it unintentionally last nite) : Dong Yi, so u think King loving some servant girl is EPIC?! how bout King loving platonically his eunuch whom he finds out is not a eunuch and he's not gay, (not) eunuch may assassinate him, spies for his antagonists, they cant both live, yet they LURVE each other more than they love their mothers?!]. Pairings, 7 of them (and many more flings). if that rocks ur boat, we even have a lot of kinky pink stuff if they really do it true to novel. Then political intrigue, court conspiracies....o and wuxia you name it, it's there, marvelously done.
The bromance btn KangXi and WXB is dearest to me fr everything I love in DoMD, because imo that's the core of getting all the wheels spinning throughout the epic and I judged adaptations mostly on that. Needless to say, nth will EVER touch Andy+Tony in DoMD84 (yesyesyes, THE best adaptation of LC novel ever) True, u can see the styrofoam mountains and skies, it's 80s hideous makeup on every face and questionable taste in beauty. Despite it all, it's just the best of the best even as a stand alone drama in terms of writing, directing, acting. (and there's the Leslie theme song!!!! I miss Leslie *sob*)
Jordan Chan is truest to the novel WXB in looks, but he is completely void of that intangible charisma a Tony Leung has which is most crucial in the casting of the character if u r going to put it on a screen. It's not really handsomeness, we've never heard of ppl wanna PS a Tony Leung's nose/chin. I need to be charmed off my socks when he's doing everything a lowly pervie scum will do without much of a conscience yet fully conscious in front of my very eyes. It's more disconcerting to see it, than read about it in the novel, for me.
I do agree DoMD98's slapstick is funny, but I cant in the love of wuxia reduce DoMD to gags. I need to fall in love with WXB like any one of his wifeys so I don't think all of them r nuts and retarded or else I'll throw things through most of the drama. I need that love also to not doubt if KangXi and all the big shots have lobotomies. It's like a Forrest Gump, u need to love THE Forrest Gump to follow it thro. In the case of this slimy sleazy WXB, it's even a much higher obstacle to overcome of coz. JY did that marvelously in the novel, DoMD98, not.
I'd rather watch the Dicky Cheung one for laughs because that one didnt even pretend to be true to anything written in the novel. It's so remote fr it I'm 100% sure I'm watching sth else fr the get go and it works on that level, laughs and all.
And DoMD is truly the JY ode to Hong Kong, his home sweet home. What's so off with the JZJ/HXM one is the complete obliteration of the wry, HK style comedy, those clever dirty play on Cantonese. I'm not sure if the mainland reader even get all that fr the novel, let alone the dour dull ZJZ making yet another of his 'true to paper and ink and treebark' adaptation with no heart and soul.
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ockoala
January 28, 2011 at 9:37 PM
Can I just say WORD.
Or do I need to wuxia-spam OT again with you? I gladly would do that, you know?
But my sister wants me to finish Hot Gimmick so that I can discuss with her.
Seriously, I have to finish a manga for discussion. It's sad, we have no life.
Anyways, been sneak watching LoCH1983 teehee. SO FRAKING GOOD STILL. This is my pimp post of the day.
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clichique
January 29, 2011 at 1:45 AM
I second "WORD." I am mainly just rewatching DoMD'98 for laughs since I need major comedy in my life at this point, so that's why I stuck with the '98 version.
Okay, here is a tough question. I know Jin Yong is awesome and everything, but... if you had to choose a least favorite novel, which one would you choose?
I think there are a few that are less developed, i.e. Yuan Yang Dao, etc. that are shorter stories, but I feel like since they are not fully developed enough, I can't be justified to really call it a least favorite since I just can't say that much about it. But... right now my least favorite is leaning towards Shu Jian En Chou Lu (Book & Sword). I think it's because the main character totally kills it for me.
brookeeve
January 29, 2011 at 9:27 AM
Hot Gimmick is a hot mess. Don't read the last one. Only read the alternate ending that some kind soul wrote, because otherwise you will want to burn the entire set, because really... tell me when you're done reading so I can get in on this conversation.
YY
January 28, 2011 at 10:03 PM
clichique, are you watching love buffet? I actually like it! Taiwanese dramas can get so annoying with an overly "cute" lead girl who overdoes it on the cute, so much so I want to puke. But this girl is funny, and I like Calvin (I must be the only one cos everybody else seems to be rooting for Aaron). Aaron's so sour he tires me. Calvin's all sunshiny goodness. Ok if you haven't watched it, got 3 words for you: This. You. Forget. (Gosh, writing the 3 words gives me goosebumps...HY! I LOVE YOU!)
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clichique
January 29, 2011 at 1:54 AM
Oh.. for some reason I thought it had Rainie Yang and for me, any TW drama with her is a deal breaker (I just cannot deal with her at all... period. And she always chooses characters I can't get behind... well, not always, but still, many of her past characters totally ruined her for me).
BUT turns out I am wrong. Maybe I will watch it. IDK, TW dramas are REALLY, REALLY hit or miss with me. And they definitely overdo the cute. It pisses me off like none other. Oh and their girls almost never have a backbone. Pisses me off more (omg so much rage... I need to take up yoga again). I hate seeing wet lettuces, and I always see them here. ALWAYS.
Read the synopsis... it is exactly like the manga Parfait Tic. Oh, wait, it says it's based off of that. Oh. Big surprise. TW dramas, WHERE IS YOUR CREATIVITY. Oh wait, sorry, I'm watching TW dramas what am I talking about. Wait. Wait. Did they not even change their names?? Like the original manga character Daiya -> Daya. And Ichi -> Ah Yi (which means one or ichi in Japanese).
Although... I loved that manga. Except when they threw in crap and tore her away from Ichi because I liked Ichi more. Omg freaking dilemma... OKAY FINE I WILL WATCH. But if this TW drama disappoints me... oh wait, happened too many times I probably am used to it.
Sigh. I'm turning psychotic. I blame it on certain people. I see you, SSH. I see you. Stop looking at me like that, SSH, I know what you want to do, but I'm gonna pretend I'm not seeing anything. COVER MY EYES.
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48 Daniaa
January 28, 2011 at 11:05 AM
well, anyone can tell me why i'm feeling crappy lately? true, my princess and dream high is giving me minor doses of excitement (while paradise ranch give none at all, sorry changmin, ilu and all but-) but all in all, life's just one big blur of colour that blinds me.
ugh. listening to adele~
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49 jomo143
January 28, 2011 at 11:18 AM
Has anyone ever successfully combined dieting and wathcing K dramas?
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ilovekimchee
January 28, 2011 at 11:33 AM
LOL. watching kdramas? maybe. marathoning kdramas? I think not.
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Viola
January 28, 2011 at 11:36 AM
I am intrigued by your juxtaposition of these two things. Why do you ask?
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jomo143
January 28, 2011 at 11:54 AM
A coupla things.
Every time someone eats on a Show, I want to eat that, too, so I snack more.
All the freaking girls are so freaking skinny, I think to myself
"Wouldn't life be better if I were freaking skinny, too?"
I want to be able to watch and move at the same time.
Maybe put my laptop up near my treadmill so I can walk and watch.
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izzie
January 29, 2011 at 9:35 AM
Happened to me twice while watchin MP. One's where Seol & Prof. Comfy McHottie ate ramen. I paused the video and dashed to the kitchen to prepare instant noodles. And the other time was when the chef prepared milk for Seol.
But when you say "diet" what comes to mind are the times when i almost skipped meals while engrossed watching k-dramas. My tummy knows how to 'sound the alarm' when hungry.
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Josina
January 28, 2011 at 11:50 AM
Nah. My transfat intake has gone up considerably since I discovered kcrack.
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samgetang
January 30, 2011 at 11:51 AM
i discovered how to lose some of the fat while still enjoying the kdrama crack: oatmeal power shots! that will keep u up til yr next proper meal....which may take you another 20 hours if you are doing a marathon :-)
if you still have the strength to prep a meal: instead of meat, try fresh green salads (without the heavy dressing...just lemon and olive oil will do) and raw nuts eg peanuts which is high in resveratrol...anti-ageing stuff u can find from red wine. brown or red rice instead of the white variety, if you are a rice eater. complex carbohydrates like sweet potato is a nice a alternative. sardines are also good they say :-) fresh fruits are easy to pop in yr mouth when yr busy skimming and LOL through all the comments and posts in Dramabeans, ehehe!
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50 xiaoSxin
January 28, 2011 at 11:21 AM
We are at the last few days of January now.. Still no news or rumors of WHAT'S UP??
Javabeans, Girlfriday... have you heard or read anything at all? I've been waiting for this drama since LAST YEAR. The last rumor was SBS for MArch 2011.
Do you think that this drama will get shelved like Birdie Buddy?
Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. I can't imagine that to happen. I think I will have a meltdown.
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Kender
January 28, 2011 at 11:26 AM
*pats* It's okay, I'm sure it's just flying under the radar.. But LJH's in it! LJH doesn't pick bad projects! Underrated, but not bad! ^^
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xiaoSxin
January 28, 2011 at 11:34 AM
I know! Good or bad.. I will watch it anyway bec it's L! J! H! But it's a little bit disheartening. I don't even want to imagine the day he will tweet bad news again. *heartbreaking*
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Kender
January 28, 2011 at 1:00 PM
:( I doubt he'll tweet anything on that level again anytime soon. Happy thoughts!
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xiaoSxin
January 28, 2011 at 9:16 PM
yes! concentrate on happy thoughts!!