@97 - Its on!

Re: Broken Things

Yeah, it gets pretty NC-17 in the first part but if you keep reading it kind of tapers off and you find out why Veronica and Lily don't stay friends anymore and the aftermath of Lily's self destruction.

@ mishane, lovenyc52, b020

I think we four need to re-watch Smashed (and Wrecked, as well - we can't have hot sex without watching the aftermath) and Something Blue this weekend, alright? Kinda like a sisterhood of the traveling Spike show.

@ mishane

Oooh, there is LoVE fanfic? I'm gonna start reading now!

As for the OTP - some of my favorite pairings are OTP, all the above you mentioned, of course. Plus the OTP pairing of Lee Byung-hun and Choi Ji-woo in Beautiful Days. Gotta shout out to k-dramas, of course.

I think when a savvy writer knows the chemistry is there, you just have to run with it, you know? Logan - it just was meant to be with Veronica, but was not scripted that way when the show started.

can we see a picture of you :)

Congrats on your new cat, javabeans! ^_^ So happy to learn that you're a cat lover too, we need more of them! Maeby looks adorable <3 And she's got white socks, how sweet. How old is she?

@ ockoala, lovenyc52, lb_tmi, and everyone else who loves b&w

i think all of ur interpretations were insightful! thanks alot u guys, u ppl make the awesomest drama recommendations and make drama viewing so much more fun! and javabeans is super cool for creating this platform for all asian drama addicts to discuss and spazz hahaha. now that i think about it, it makes sense, given chen lin was crushing over the person who saved her, who was actually pi zi.
i am definitely gonna keep watching cause it just keeps getting gooder and gooder! lol

@ jtinma

regarding SS, honestly, im not too fond of tw dramas b/c practically all of them fall into that absurd silliness category. i refuse to watch most of the tw dramas out there. but i think SS will get us more emotionally invested later on when show's character changes into a playboy and wants to take revenge on rainie.

@ xiahkixiri

ok, are u ready for this? ppl at show's fan forum compiled all possibly related links on SS, but they're not subbed : ((( i'll link u to the trailers and stuff that dont really need subs to understand it hahaha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxF5apd2KPQ preview for bts special (ngs)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yushs3SoP2o intro to show's character
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wtvij6WXbc intro to rainie's character
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWrRYJ2aG1A pink panther!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2fLdwjqte8 news + promotion from show and rainie (eng subbed!)
omg, that story. oh how i wished i was on the bus that passed by his car. haha
show is too awesome for words. if i continue spazzing over him, this post would get really long lol. but seriously, im sick of the goddam press always making up lies and picking on him (arent the tw media afraid of getting sued for libel???). and the fact that his record company doesnt put enough effort or money into making his albums/singer-related activities. but thats a whole other story.
oh, and i'll throw in a fb fanpage for SS. http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/pages/hai-pai-tian-xin/192666757984?ref=nf

Meow...meow....meow....Dramabeans meow....when can we have the IRIS meow meow ep2? ^^

So I just had the best SPICY ramen for lunch ;-) and am thoroughly enjoying the Spike/Logan commentary. What a great way to spend an afternoon.

I wouldn't dream of leaving...except I still have to watch Ep 4 of IRIS!

srry if im spamming, but does anyone know what "your comment is awaiting moderation" means? is it cause my post is too long so i have to edit it or?

@ 103 ockoala

OMG are you kidding me?

Sorry OT, you're about to be spammed with L/V fanfic recs.

Okay. One of my favorites. There's a prequel and a sequel. The prequel is called "Sleep, Perchance. . ." and can be found here (http://wily-one24.livejournal.com/87424.html). This one is PG-13. No sex. Basically? Logan is an asshole. Veronica is an outcast. He keeps treating her like shit and then. . .starts feeling bad about it. But it's kind of too little too late. I love this one for the interactions between the two and for Logan's confusion on how he feels about Veronica. This one was so popular that the writer decided to write more. The rest of the series is called ". . .to dream" and is basically Logan's pursuit of Veronica and Veronica deciding if she can actually trust Logan. I swear, it's beautifully written. Makes me heart stop each time I read it (http://community.livejournal.com/veronicamarsfic/1542463.html). This will be a long read. I mean, each chapter is about 10,000 words, I think.

I'm trying to find more PG-13 stuff. If you want more 'sexy' recs, then I can give those too.

'Open Up' by alocalband is pretty good (http://community.livejournal.com/veronicamarsfic/22088.html). alocalband also wrote 'Pay To The Order Of' (http://community.livejournal.com/veronicamarsfic/38194.html) and 'Quiet' (http://community.livejournal.com/veronicamarsfic/350863.html).

Sinaddict is an AMAZING writer. I love all her stuff. She tends to write more NC-17 stuff but it's usually kind of deep and creepy. She delves more into the uncommon. NOT fluff. I think she wrote for Buffy also, but I don't remember much of her work there. I found one of hers that was R-rated, called 'Inertia Creeping' (http://sinaddict.livejournal.com/26035.html). Honestly, I'd rec all her stuff, but again, most are very sexual.

Theohara also wrote 'Rich Dirt', an AU version of Shelly's party (http://community.livejournal.com/veronicamarsfic/242465.html)

Okay, and now I'm freaking out. There was this amazing fic that went more into the Logan/Duncan friendship and rivalry and Veronica ends up in a coma and it's a great bonding story between the two but I can't find it. GRR.

I have a billion of these recs.

I'm kind of happy that Asian dramas don't have fic because then that'd be more obsession. I did read one or two Hana Yori Dango fics that were pretty good. I'm a picky fic reader, since I've been reading fic since I was 11.

Talking about reading, just bought the book 'House Of Leaves' from B&N. Am very excited because apparently this book fucks your mind up. It's about a house where the inside is bigger than the outside but the way the book is laid out is weird, almost like an e.e. cummings poem. Some pages will only have two words on it, some has upside down words. It's not in a normal format. Am very very excited to read it.

lol, just in case you guys thought all I read is fanfic. I actually haven't read fanfic in years but I do keep a list of favorites if I ever want to re-visit.

@ 108 Annie

I think it's if your comment has a lot of links in it

Re: Asian drama OTP's.

I find that it's hard to get heavily invested in an OTP. Because there's only 16 episodes or so, it's over pretty fast. You don't get that long history with it. Also, since I watch k-dramas after they air, I can usually watch a drama in a week or two, which means my obsession is short lived. There's no summer hiatus, winter hiatus or waiting a week in between and wondering what's going to happen. It's instant gratification, which is really nice, but which is why there's not much of a fandom built on it.

Which I guess is a good and bad thing.

just popped a bunch of popcorn..

langdon unni.. ockoala.. you ladies want some??

imma sit back and enjoy the fight over TOP between lovenyc52 and b020. i'm not really rooting for either one, but lovenyc52, you better make me proud to be your twin. that's all i'm sayin'.

before it all begins, can you tell me what TOP means/stands for?

@ mishane

thanks for the info! but now i dont know how to go and edit the post. maybe javabeans will? gah, srry for messing this up!

I am LOVING You're Beautiful - it's well set to be added to my list of all-time favorite dramas. It's just so fantastic to finally see Jang Geun Seuk in a role that actually suits him and which he's putting his heart in, and everyone else is so well-cast and there's such a scrumptious blend of angst and comedy and the writing is so delightfully consistent. I fall in love with it more with every episode <3 Sadly(or not so sadly) I'm not interested in Iris - it's just not my thing at all, and while it seems like an excellent effort in its genre, I seem to get less and less interested in it the more hype that arises.

also, does anyone know anything about Tajomaru, Oguri Shun's new movie? any chance of getting it English subbed soon?

yay! finally on DB, have finished work, am on my half way to xmas week-long break, haven't cleaned my house in preparation for my holiday yet BUT am really enjoying the open thread so much so that i'm munching on sweets instead of cooking a proper dinner (baaad....)

ok so...

@ buffy/spike/angel people: i actually thought the angel/buffy thing was slightly too contrived and it only got really interesting when he turned all evil (possibly season 3? i forget) anyhoos though, the spike and buffy thing was weird at first but totally real in terms of what it ment to both of them at first and what it turned into at the end. i like that angel actually falls for cordy by the near end bits of angel (i think the connor storyline was totally pants though) and it just goes to show that maybe redemption can only truly be found in cheerleaders :)

@ black and white people: OMG why oh WHY wasn't there serious romance between like, ANYONE interesting at the end? like not even a hug or anything from zaizai and whatshername chen ling (is it?!) sadness. two hot men and lame LAME romance. great copper storyline though.

i was actually hoping to catch up on lots of kdrama watching this hols but alas, the powers that be have other things in store for me so things i'm looking forward to are:

- smile
- you're beautiful

not sure about iris....hum...is it really worth it d'you reckon??

sweet nice cat. The Cat we adopted not to long ago was pregnant when we adopted her, and she just had the Kittens

video of the kittens feeding
http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/gaming_bum/?action=view&current=mommakittens.flv

@ 117 Nazreal

maybe redemption can only truly be found in cheerleaders

lol, nice! Very true though. Cheerleaders usually get a very bad rap in media. I don't know what happened to Cordelia in Angel (never got into Angel for some reason) but I did love what Joss did with Cordelia's character in BtVS. She went from shallow bitchy cheerleader to shallow bitchy cheerleader with a heart. All that drama between Cordelia/Xander/Willow was great. Well not great, but it gave Cordelia character.

And I remember reading essays on BtVS. I really wanted to go to that college that taught BtVS classes. It had such an impact on cult and pop culture. People would go on and on and on about it and I stayed surprisingly interested.

I still think Buffy is one of the more complex woman characters in television. I loved that the writers made her unlikeable. She wasn't perfect at all. Which is why I loved her.

I'm in heaven because there is so much to watch every week online, but I'm still waiting to get my hands on a copy of the City Hall DVD. I don't know why it's taking so long.

Anyways, I was so desperate that I picked up a copy of Hur Joon instead. That should keep me going until either City Hall comes out or the current kdramas are out. Life is good.

(sneaking a quick peek from boss's laptop)

@ Samsooki
Aigoo...it's clear that the Mrs. now has two baby Samsooki's to take care of (and only one uses KMS hairplay) :P

How long are you gonna hold out on the OT?

Imagine if this had been you?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091023/od_afp/malaysiaairasiaairlineoffbeat

AHHHH I love this name and this show so much~ so perfect! I would like to be friends with it. :)

Happy Friday, yay for the awesomeness that is Your're Beautiful, it is sooo much fun.

Aside from my happiness of not having a cold anymore I am currently obsessed with Tokio Hotel's music. I have had my Snow Patrol's Set The Fire To The Third Bar on repeat ever since the Dear John trailer....such a good song.

I keep getting to open thread so late these days,so many comments already. Have an awesome weekend everyone!!

JB your cat is adorable:)

@ lovenyc52 & Top fans: http://www.youtube.com/user/xfl0at#p/c/38CD6DA3A3CCFC49/62/rYFnD_N9tdg

last episode, part 3/4, start at 5:38

@103 OK, now I have to go & tell my friends I can't go out because I have to go home to watch 'Smashed'!!!!

@ JB re: VM Season 2

Yeah, I wouldn't use as harsh of a term as "swill", but VM S2 did in its essence betray all the finesse character and plot development in S1. For example: Meg wasn't Meg anymore, Beaver wasn't Beaver anymore, and WTF did you do to Wallace, Rob Thomas? So much of S1 was overturned in the name of creating the S2 mystery, that I felt deflated at the end of the season. The death of ______, and the rewriting of "A Trip to the Dentist", kinda felt like I had been kicked in the gut.

Nonetheless.......for me, so much love and goodwill had been built up from VM S1, and the essence of Veronica/Logan was still present, and still sizzling, I can accept Season 2 and even Season 3. In the end of VM, my one takeaway was that Rob Thomas is not yet Joss Whedon - he has lots of potential. On the otherhand, Joss had plenty of misfires - Uhm, hello, Adam? - compared to Dark Willow? Yeah, Joss, I'll give you a pass for misfires, because in the end you gave us Dark Willow, and how you dealt with the the death of Momma Summers and Tara.

BTW, all VMers, I do not know and have never acknowledged the presence of a so-called "Piz." Never happened, la la la....

@ b020

Well, you kinda just need to watch the last 10 minutes of Smashed....so you can still go out! But seriously, I would fast forward any scene with Dawn.

JB...Maeby gets so much love from these uncles and aunts here...We once had 5 cats at a time and dog and birds....but now no more pet...only babysitting our granddogs(retirement... too much traveling).
IRIS is so awesome...my thirst of LBH is being satified, YRB is very cute and sweet...good cast. I am also watching Autumn Concerto and Easy Fortune Happy Life. I am leaving for VietNam the whole month of November...what will I do?I am sure I can watch Iris there...We will have 10 hours lay-over in Soeul on the way back...my daughter's friend(teachs English in Soeul) will play host and give us a 6 hour tour of the city...can't wait. Let see if we can use any of our Korean learning from watching all those Kdramas. City Hall DVD is avaible...I bought one already. Have a nice weekend everyone.

@ 113 lb_tmi

Yup, thanks for sharing, I do want some virtual popcorn from you. Thanks, munch, munch.

I actually ate Pad Thai at my desk watching Something Blue from BtVS Season 4, so yummy and hilarious, esp when Buffy discusses what they should play as their first dance song.... Someone ate what would normally be my hidden stash of korean spicy noodles..... ;-)

@ 131 sno

I think all4movies is talking about the official City Hall Director's Cut DVD set soon to be released, not the bootleg stuff that has been available since July. Woo hoo, I can't wait as well, I'm camping out (if possible) for that baby!

@131 sno

oh! you're going on a trip to Vietnam?? my aunt once told me that Vietnam was the place my uncle wanted to live the most.. where he loved the weather best.. and was the most beautiful place he had ever been. enjoy your trip!!! it sounds fantastic.

i wish my layover in Seoul would be that long so i could leave the airport and do a tiny bit of site-seeing.. but my layover is 3 hrs, not enough to even find my way around the airport. :(

@ 132 ockoala

my hidden stash of korean ramen is still here.. no one's been able to find it yet :D

@ 130 ockoala

I hate a love/hate relationship with Evil!Willow. I kind of thought it was over the top and ridiculous but in a way, it brought a different and deeper aspect to the Scooby friendships. I appreciated that, but I thought it was still kind of crazy.

(I did like how Xander became useful and saved the world.)

Dawn was ridiculous. I really did not like her. Plus it just friggin confused me at first. Like, WHAT IS SHE?!?! That season did bring a lot of laughs and tears, especially the season finale. Buffy's closing speech made me cry so many times (and I actually used it in a college paper! How lame.)

Buffy: Dawn, listen to me, listen. I love you. I will always love you. But this is the work that I have to do. Tell Giles… tell Giles I figured it out. And, and I'm okay. And give my love to my friends. You have to take care of them now. You have to take care of each other. Dawn, the hardest thing in this world… is to live in it. Be brave. Live… for me.

*sniff*

@ ockoala

Ah yes. Wind Beneath My Wings. Okay, when I go home I'm totally going to rewatch that episode. I love silly Buffy. Remember Beer Bad? I also loved The Freshman.

Did you guys know that Rob Thomas wrote Veronica Mars to be a boy? I'm so happy it was switched to a girl. It adds a whole different level to it.

I was the biggest Buffy geek in high school. I used to write quotes from the show in a notebook. I loved Buffy slang.

THANKS A LOT OPEN THREAD!

I was re-watching Monk (another great TV show) but when I get home, my Buffy DVD's are going in and I'm doing a re-watch. Hello my past, goodbye my weekend.

Just finished watching IRIS Episode 4. May be Kim Jong II is also watching the meow...meow...meow...IRIS for a cat name is also not too bad!!

Evil Willow was great, if the story was little strange. I sincerly love Season 6 finale, I know alot of people don't but I really did. Dawn was annoying, and will forever be annoying.

Happy Friday! I am on clouds nines today for many reasons but mostly because of YB.
@badmarkz
So true, watching You’re Beautiful without JB’s recap is incomplete and may I add, in comprehensible.

@Taohua
I hope the reporter doesn’t stop looking for the mystery girl. That might be the catalyst in stopping the whole charade between TK and HY.

@ockoala
I’m probably too old for YB too but can’t help being obsessed with it and all the characters especially TK and MN. But seriously, I thought everyone was well cast.

JGS is one fine actor and can’t help swooning over him, eyeliner and all. Planning to watch all his dramas and movies – saw the clips from Itaewon Murder and think that’s quite a different role for him too. Has anyone claimed him? Can I have him please??

I think Evil!Willow was hard to swallow because Willow used to be so. . . innocent. Sweet. Even when she was opening up in college, she still remained pretty innocent. So to go from that Willow to Evil!Willow was a big leap for me. It's been years since I've watched so maybe there was more a subtle decline.

I liked that season but I thought the finale was more anti-climatic compared to the prior season finales. My favorite still has to be Becoming 2 (which was actually the first BtVS episode I watched). Seeing Buffy kiss Angel and then kill him? Heartbreaking. And then Sarah McLachlan (sp?) plays in the background and your heart just breaks.

@ mishane

"I was the biggest Buffy geek in high school."

was? was?? umm.. you still ARE. but i LOVE reading all the buffy stuff.. it's just, why can't i remember what happened in any episodes? i only remember characters.. but not events. weird.

@ JB

Snerf, Teddy Dunn.....let's see, yup, you described him perfectly. It was unfortunate, because as much as I heart LoVe, if Teddy Dunn had half the charisma of Jason Dohring (who started off such a douchebag and turned into a hottie - go figure?), then the Veronica-Logan-Duncan love triangle would have been beyond epic.

Let's see - the guys are best friends, check; girl loved/in love with either or both at any given moment, check; false alarm of blood relations, check; one guy dated your best friend, the other is the brother of your best friend, check; one is your first love, the other is potentially your true love, check; both guys will probably move heaven and earth for you, check; both guys are rich as hell, check; one guy's dad killed your best friend, the other guy's dad was your mother's first love, check; and I can go on and on.....

What RT made the mistake of doing was re-inserting the love triangle AFTER it was clear that Teddy Dunn just didn't have the same chemistry with Kristen Bell, so it felt contrived, and the rest of Season 2 promptly fell down a cliff like that school bus.

But I still love VM in the end (call me sentimental - after Buffy, I was in a lonely lost wasteland of bad TV shows, just waiting patiently, and I had yet to discover the magic of k-drama, and then VM came along, and I was saved, hallelujah). And if the show had ended forever at the end of Season 1 and we DO get to see that it was Logan (who else could it have been RT, you don't need to tease us) who came to V's door, I would have died happy as well. A kiss between the battered Logan and Veronica and Lily's killer apprehended, I would have been more than satisfied.

@ mishane

Oh. My. God. You memorized THE speech. I am so touched just reading it. And let's not forget what is on Buffy's tombstone - She Saved the World. A Lot.

Yeah, Dark Willow was over the top, but Willow's grief was killer, Alyson Hannigan nailed it. Dawn is and forever will be just a plot device, she never felt real to me.

And THE speech always make me remember what Buffy tells the Scoobies in "Once More, With Feeling" that she was in Heaven!!! and happy, and content, and at peace, and they brought her back to do what she told Dawn would be the hardest thing in the world, to live. So glorious, Joss, when you are firing on all cylinders, your work is magic.

"My favorite still has to be Becoming 2 (which was actually the first BtVS episode I watched). Seeing Buffy kiss Angel and then kill him? Heartbreaking. And then Sarah McLachlan (sp?) plays in the background and your heart just breaks."

Yes, my favorite Season ender from ALL BtVS seasons as well. I have all of Sarah McLachlan's CD's because of that episode, when Buffy is walking away, the music kills.

Oh, and I heard Marti Noxon joined Dollhouse, urgh.

@ 143 lb_tmi

You're right. I still am. I own the DVD boxset and some of the Season 8 comics. (And when it comes out in Blu-Ray, I'll buy it then also).

I haven't seen an episode in years though, I think the last time I watched it was 3 years ago?

But I still remember everything. That's how much of an impression it left on me.

@ ockoala
LOL NO! I didn't memorize the speech at all. I just googled Buffy quotes on wiki. Pssh, I'm not that much of a geek!!

And THE speech always make me remember what Buffy tells the Scoobies in “Once More, With Feeling” that she was in Heaven!!! and happy, and content, and at peace, and they brought her back to do what she told Dawn would be the hardest thing in the world, to live. So glorious, Joss, when you are firing on all cylinders, your work is magic,

OMG. Yes. That speech killed me. Killed me dead.

I never started watching Dollhouse. Eliza Dushku never impressed me much and her line delivery was kind of awkward. The concept sounded interesting though.

I want my Friday back.

*looks at mountains of textbooks covering my study-table*

And I never ever ever want Saturday - the Systematic Anatomy Exam Which Will Eat You Alive and Throw You To the Evil Ogres to Suck Your (diencephalon, telencephaol, brainstem, midbrain, and cerebral-spinal fluid) Brains Out - which I will fail.

You're Beautiful has even failed to cheer me up. That just *shows* how hopelessly miserable I am.

*sniffles and scurries away*

I love it when the OT thread is awesome all day long and on into the following week. This one has been fantastic. I don't have much to contribute today other than "Damn, didn't Shin-woo look FINE in those pants" but I'm enjoying every word.

Strangely enough, as much as I loved Buffy (and I did), I just can't bring myself to go back there. I have all the DVD's but couldn't tell you the last time I watched them. I even bought the Angel boxed set when Amazon offered it at a ridiculous price a few months ago. I think it still has the wrapping on it.

Same thing with VM...the coulda woulda shouldas of that show just kill me dead.

I think I feel a drunken binge coming on. I am DUE, lemme tell ya.

@ meh

You have Saturday classes?!!

I did that one year. The Organic Chemistry lab I wanted to take only met up on Saturday mornings at 9:00. NEVER AGAIN. EVER. Every other week I'd walk into class hungover and this is not good when you're dealing with combustible chemicals. Then after class I'd start the slow walk back to the dorms where my friends were still snug asleep in their beds. HATE. HATE. HATE.

Good luck on Anatomy! Hey, at least it's not Physics!

@ langdon

Yeah, a Buffy rewatch is a commitment. I did it once in college with my roommate but I think we only got to Season 5. There's too many!

Aigoo, Open Thread.

@ annieee: So according to Show, it's not all cracky, there is sadness and crying and angst. I'll choose to believe him, because he is Show Luo. And the BTS stuff looks hysterical - OH MY GOD at the inspiration for his name - Da Lang, Da Lang; is the Pink Panther like his equivalent of Kashaba Wangze? Also Rainie's hair is awesome; her and Mike He will always have that, even if their sacred OTP status seems to have died: their hair will always, always, ALWAYS be commented on. Oh Lordy, here we go: YAB, possibly Iris, Shanghai Sweethearts, plus B&W wanting, S3 of VM wanting, bloody all of Buffy wanting. jghfhsjkalshjgdhkfhljkkghwf

You cat is not that cute, i think you should get a dog. it will do more than just lay around like that cat.