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Oh My Baby: Episode 7

Our brave heroine exposes her personal life, and her courage both inspires and challenges those around her. She’s unashamed of her personal struggles and her growing feelings, but age is her recurring barrier. As a woman, as a professional, and as a hopeful mother, our heroine owns her responsibilities and marvels us with her keen ability to be true to herself, even if things aren’t perfect.

 
EPISODE 7: “The proper distance to prevent hurt feelings”

Ha-ri returns to work and finds a cake on her desk congratulating her official reinstatement. Her editing team praise her column piece, but Editor Shim goes right back to business by dragging Ha-ri to the president’s office for her scolding. The president is enraged with Ha-ri’s column, which was not an apology they demanded, and he curses at them as he throws his papers that rain down like confetti.

Over drinks, Editor Shim assures Ha-ri that she won’t get fired because Editor Shim intends to quit. She needs to take care of her baby, who was diagnosed with febrile seizure, and she acknowledges that she isn’t being a great mom to her older child either. Ha-ri wonders if her resignation will be too abrupt, but Editor Shim argues that an abrupt resignation fortifies the reason to keep Ha-ri, who’s been at The Baby for 15 years.

Editor Shim doesn’t see why childless Ha-ri would lower the credibility of the magazine and states that her poor parenting should lower their credibility. Despite her strict demeanor, Editor Shim appreciates that Ha-ri always understands her sincerity and makes it her mission to make Ha-ri the next editor-in-chief before she resigns.

Yi-sang sits at the neighborhood restaurant and stares at the empty seat across from him, thinking about Ha-ri. We see that his doctor asked if he still wanted treatment even though his last subfertility treatment was ineffective, and Yi-sang ponders Ha-ri’s question on whether he’s ever wanted to be a father. He thinks to himself that he never wanted to be a father, but Ha-ri is making this hard.

As Ha-ri walks home, she smiles as she recalls the silly fight in the rain between Yi-sang and Jae-young. She spots a familiar silhouette on the bench and calls out to Yi-sang. Her cheerful greeting is met with silence, so she decides to let him be alone, but Yi-sang asks her to stay.

Ha-ri asked what he did that day, and Yi-sang responds that he was trying to solve some tough homework life gave him. Ha-ri finds his profound response unexpectedly philosophical and says that she expected him to say something along the lines of, “I met my deadline and was taking a walk when I thought of Jang Ha-ri…” She catches herself sharing her assumption that he was thinking of her, and Yi-sang grins.

Yi-sang shares that he thought that Ha-ri was strange, unlike most people who try to hide their struggles and pain. He admits that after observing Ha-ri, he’s embarrassed that he always tries to act like he’s strong. He understands now that Ha-ri asked him to marry her in desperation, after receiving her subfertility and endometriosis diagnosis, and he’s impressed by her confession to the world.

Crediting his next move to the beer in his hand, Yi-sang compliments her, “You did well.” In place of the stamp, Yi-sang steps closer and gently pats her head. Ha-ri looks moved by the compliment and smiles in gratitude (and probably some fluttering feelings). She thanks Yi-sang for the affirmation, and Yi-sang suddenly sees his mother by his apartment.

Yi-sang greets his mother, who stopped by unannounced to drop off some homemade food. She looks to Ha-ri curiously and asks who she is. Yi-sang explains that she’s just a colleague and tries to escort Mom home, but Mom is more interested in Ha-ri. Delighted to see a potential match for Yi-sang, Mom permits Ha-ri to come Yi-sang’s house whenever she wants.

Yi-sang tries to drag her away again, but Ha-ri suddenly confesses that she likes Yi-sang. Omo! Mom is overjoyed and takes Ha-ri’s hands in gratitude. As she catches a taxi home, she tells Ha-ri that they’ll see each other again, and Yi-sang looks heavy-hearted.

When Ha-ri returns home, she knocks on Jae-young’s window in low spirits and invites him to get gopchang. He says that he already ate dinner and rejects her request to accompany her self-care outing, so Ha-ri goes out for gopchang alone. She recalls Yi-sang’s irritation at Ha-ri’s confession.

Yi-sang asserts that they’re not young and shouldn’t start a relationship if they can’t accept each other. Ha-ri is confused by how complicated Yi-sang is making this, and Yi-sang explains that he knows their end. Ha-ri wants a baby, but he doesn’t and can’t take responsibility for her hurt feelings. Ha-ri responds, “I’ll take responsibility for my own feelings.” Offended by Yi-sang’s response, Ha-ri warns Yi-sang to be careful not to cause misunderstandings with his actions and walks away.

As Ha-ri picks at her gopchang alone, Jae-young joins her and advises that any man who makes her agonize is a red flag. She laments that she lost her rationality, and Jae-young suddenly yells, asking if she slept with the man. Ha-ri shuts him up and says that she fell for a gesture and a glance, even at 40 years old. She wonders if the hesitance in their relationship would have been different at 20 or 30 years old, and Jae-young gets angry that she’s trying to empathize with this man.

Jae-young says that Ha-ri should have come to him with her medical concerns because he’s a doctor, and he worries about her next steps. He asks if she still hopes for dating and marriage, even though she doesn’t have time. Ha-ri responds that it’s more painful to give up those hopes, and she wishes she were 20 years old today so that she could act rashly on her fluttering feelings.

At work the next day, Ha-ri walks into the studio, where Hyo-joo rudely instructs Yi-sang to take a better photo of her props. She insults his skills and condescends him, but Ha-ri tells Yi-sang to follow the reporter’s requests. He argues that the photographer’s time and labor are also important, and Ha-ri responds that the reporter will take responsibility for that, echoing her assertion from the previous night.

Then, Ha-ri talks to Hyo-joo privately and scolds her for her inappropriate behavior. Ha-ri tells Hyo-joo that the photographers are partners, not their subordinates. She regrets not being harsher on Hyo-joo and admits that she was afraid that she would sound like an old person nagging her, but she won’t let Hyo-joo get away with mediocrity anymore. Ha-ri vows to teach Hyo-joo well so that she will have pride in her work and apply her skill in her future career.

Ha-ri returns to the studio and apologizes to Yi-sang for her younger reporter’s learned behavior, and Yi-sang accepts her professional apology. Then on a personal note, Yi-sang admits that he briefly starting falling for her and apologizes for his unclear behavior that led to her to misunderstand his intentions. He explains that his long-time fiancée broke up with him, so he decided to remove marriage or children from his future. He says, “I still like being alone, and I decided this future after long consideration. I’m sorry for confusing you.”

Ha-ri accepts his apology and admits that she also fell for him briefly. She bluffs that those feelings made her uncomfortable, and they both agree to return to being comfortable colleagues. But when Ha-ri leaves the studio, she looks completely deflated and heartbroken.

Yi-sang looks through his photos from their business trip, and he smiles at the photos of Ha-ri. He remembers the moment fondly and looks conflicted about his feelings.

Editor Shim checks the toothpaste from their marketing partner and finds that they all expire in six months. She looks to Hyo-joo and asks if she didn’t mention the expiration date check to marketing team newbie Eu-tteum, and Hyo-joo guiltily admits that she intended to tell him. Eu-tteum takes the bullet for her and claims that he forgot to check the expiration date, even though Hyo-joo told him, and he’s tasked with getting new products.

Hyo-joo looks moved by Eu-tteum’s gesture and asks why he helped her. Eu-tteum says that he noticed Hyo-joo getting a scolding earlier, and then in classic Eu-tteum fashion, he provokes anger by asking Hyo-joo why she’s scolded so often, even though she’s not new. LOL. Eu-tteum also points out that he’s only having extended conversation with Hyo-joo because she talked to him first and says that he prefers longer conversations. Hyo-joo takes that as a confession that he likes her, though I’m not sure what’s what he means.

Jae-young meets Ha-ri for lunch, and his friendly demeanor makes Ha-ri suspicious. After considering their 39-year friendship, Jae-young offers to marry Ha-ri and tells her to consider it for about a minute. Ha-ri imagines their future as a married couple, and she can only see herself doing housework while Jae-young lazes on the couch. She’s repulsed by the thought and asks if she’s that pitiful.

Jae-young admits that he’s feeling strange recently, with mood swings like a teenager, and he wants her to help stabilize him. Ha-ri seems to note his serious request, but they go back to their regularly sibling-like rapport soon after.

Editor Shim submits her resignation letter, and Vice President Joo tries to backpedal by claiming that he only asked her to reconsider her childcare leave. Editor Shim says that his request basically asked her to resign, and she wants to make room for her juniors to be promoted. Vice President Joo asks her to stick around for them to find a replacement, but Editor Shim says that she intends to leave immediately so that Ha-ri can take the position.

Vice President Joo says that Ha-ri isn’t eligible for the position because she’s on the president’s bad side, and he insists that Editor Shim stick around until they find a new person for her role. Editor Shim agrees, and he tells her to have a good day. Then, Editor Shim stops and addresses him informally, which causes him to choke on his tea. “Hey, Joo Seung-tae. Either be a suck-up to the president or support your subordinates. Or be good at both. Have a good day.” OMG, I love her.

As Ha-ri leaves, Eu-tteum returns after waiting all day at their marketing client’s office. He wasn’t successful, but that’s all he could do to take responsibility for his work. Eu-tteum tells Ha-ri that he learned a lot from her column — that he should protect his personal life and that he should be braver. He shares that he doesn’t know what he wants in life, and he admires Ha-ri’s clear direction and wishes in life. Ha-ri looks comforted that Eu-tteum understands her dreams.

The next morning, Hyo-joo learns that Eu-tteum is still at their client’s office waiting to meet with the team leader, and she calls him to come back to the office. Ha-ri learns about this and marches into the company after confirming their agreement with the company. She finds Eu-tteum in the corner after he was kicked out of the meeting room and points out that their client disregarded their newbie.

Ha-ri states that newbie Eu-tteum deserves respectful treatment and requests that they do so to maintain their good company relationship. In response, the worker apologizes to Eu-tteum for making him wait indefinitely and immediately connects Ha-ri to their team leader. On the phone, Ha-ri boldly asks the team leader if she should meet with the president instead, if he’s too busy, and of course, she gets the job done. Ha-ri is making boss girl moves, and Eu-tteum looks impressed.

As Ha-ri walks back to work, she sees Yi-sang greeting a friend (cameo by Jeon Hye-bin) with a warm embrace, and her jealousy spikes. Ha-ri follows them into the café and loudly slams her cup on the table, drawing Yi-sang’s attention. He looks over and sheepishly introduces Ha-ri to his celebrity friend, and Ha-ri introduces herself as a very comfortable colleague to Yi-sang. Haaa.

Celebrity friend tells Yi-sang that she’s burdened by the photoshoot requests after giving birth and asks Yi-sang to take her photos because he knows her best angles. Ha-ri looks irritated by Yi-sang’s closeness with this friend and sips on her coffee loudly.

As they walk back from the café, Ha-ri tells Yi-sang he must have high standards because he works closely with actors, and Yi-sang responds that his type is someone who’s very pretty, petite, and talks a lot of nonsense. Obviously, he means Ha-ri, but Ha-ri accuses him of drawing boundaries by picking descriptors like “very pretty” and “talks lots of nonsense” that she doesn’t think describes her. Ha-ri says that her feelings were very light and says that she completely comfortable with him.

Yi-sang says that he’s very uncomfortable and that he’s doing his best to be comfortable around her because he needs to see her. Ha-ri says that she’ll try to make arrangements so that they don’t work together and walks off. But Yi-sang emphasizes that he’s trying to be comfortable because he wants to see her at the very least.

In her notebook, Ha-ri crosses out Yi-sang as an option. Eu-tteum finds her, and when Ha-ri opens up her notebook to discuss work, he grabs her open notebook to grab her attention. He hasn’t seen what’s on the page (the rating of her possible sperm donors), but Ha-ri nervously tries to grab her notebook back. Eu-tteum enthusiastically offers his sperm, but Ha-ri wants to table the discussion. She doesn’t feel as excited about the prospect anymore and finally pulls her notebook from his grasp.

Finding some privacy, Ha-ri looks at the photo from the beach and thinks back to her almost-kiss with Yi-sang. Her colleagues join her with coffee, and as Yi-sang leaves, he watches Ha-ri with this look that feels warm and fuzzy. He lurves her.

Jae-young finds a congratulatory gift from his ex-wife in his clinic lobby and looks saddened by this reminder of his painful divorce. When Mom arrives, she tries to take off the ribbon with her name to make him feel better and starts to curse his ex-wife, Jung-won. Then, Jung-won walks into the clinic, and Mom sees her way out.

Jung-won wants to plan a 1-year birthday celebration together for Do-ah, but Jae-young reminds her that they’re divorced and that he has custody. She insists that she’s Do-ah’s mother, and Jae-young shares that Do-ah can almost say “Dad” but not “Mom.” Jae-young says that as Do-ah’s mother, she should be asking about Do-ah’s well-being first.

Jung-won says that she wants to do better and claims that she always loved Jae-young, but Jae-young knows that Jung-won has always been selfish. He regrets choosing Jung-won over Ha-ri, and he tells Jung-won that she was the one who inserted herself between him and Ha-ri.

At home, Jae-young bathes Do-ah and decides to pass on dinner, despite Mom’s concern. Mom knows that it will be hard to raise Do-ah without her mother, but Jae-young seems determined to figure it out. He thanks Do-ah for being strong with him through their difficulties. He says, “Dad, Grandma, and Aunt Ha-ri will love you even more. It’ll be okay without Mom. Let’s keep doing well, you and me.”

Eu-tteum stops by the editing team to request information for their book size, and he asks permission to look through Ha-ri’s desk. Yeon-ho recommend that he check Ha-ri’s notebook, and just as he flips to the sperm donor rating page, Yeon-ho says that she has an email she can forward to him. It’s unclear if he saw the content of the page, and Ha-ri looks at him suspiciously as he leaves her desk.

Editor Shim announces good news that their readership went up by 0.1% and credits this to Ha-ri’s column. Then, she also announces that she’s going to resign, and Hyo-joo inappropriately yells in celebration before catching herself. Ha!

Surprised by this sudden news, the editing team goes out to eat spicy ddukbokki to process the announcement, and they run into Yi-sang and Soo-chul. The ddukbokki is especially spicy for Ha-ri, and Yi-sang fills up another cup of water for her. They don’t address each other, and Yi-sang talks about work to Ha-ri’s other colleagues.

Ha-ri doesn’t know what to make of Yi-sang’s gesture, so she follows him outside to demand an explanation. She says that showing his feelings while keeping a distance hurts her more, and she asks again for him to stop confusing her. Yi-sang admits that his feelings were sincere and that stopping himself was a tough decision.

Yi-sang shares that he stopped pursuing his feelings because of his problem, and he thought it was considerate to stop if he couldn’t take responsibility for his problems. Ha-ri thinks that this was the extent of his feelings for Ha-ri, and Yi-sang responds that he’ll try his best to quit his feelings cold turkey. He looks pained as he walks away, and Ha-ri looks disheartened once more.

The next day at work, Ha-ri looks through files with Yeon-ho and thinks about Yi-sang’s promise to stop expressing his feelings. She asks Yeon-ho if she’ll ever change her mind about having children, and she says that both her and her partner are happy with their current life. She thinks the financial burden and overall time commitment to having children would ruin the happiness in her marriage, and she’s pleased with her decision.

Then, Yeon-ho asks about the sperm donor and suggests that she just marry the person. Ha-ri says that the donor is too young and senseless, and Yeon-ho immediately guesses correctly that the donor is Eu-tteum. Ha-ri tells her to keep the secret, and they both agree that he’s too young. Ha-ri can’t seem to bring it up to Eu-tteum, and we see that Eu-tteum has overheard the conversation. He gasps and seems determined about what to do next.

In celebration of Editor Shim’s last day, the whole production team goes out for drinks. Ha-ri and Yi-sang look at each other uncomfortably, and Yi-sang keeps glancing at her. As a farewell gift, the team gives Editor Shim a custom magazine with her on the cover and filled with her work so that she can use it as a portfolio when she returns to work. Editor Shim looks moved, and when Yeon-ho tries to get her to sing, she stops the chants with her sharp glare, no words necessary.

As the drunk night winds down, Editor Shim sneaks out to clean out her desk, and Ha-ri follows her there. She tells Editor Shim to come to work the next day for a proper farewell, but Editor Shim doesn’t want the attention. Editor Shim advises Ha-ri to be harder on people as the new editor-in-chief, and Ha-ri wonders if they’ll actually promote her. Editor Shim vows to storm back into the office with her children in tow if they don’t promote Ha-ri.

After loading the car, Ha-ri thanks Editor Shim for everything and gives her a tight hug. Editor Shim also thanks her, and they stay in the warm embrace until the proxy driver arrives. Editor Shim quickly pushes her away and goes back to business mode, lol. Ha-ri sees off her reliable sunbae with a final wave, and she tears up as the car drives off.

Ha-ri returns to the team, who have become drunk zombies trying to find their way to the second round. She loads her team into taxis and runs back to grab Eu-tteum, who wonders what to tell Ha-ri. As Ha-ri tries to pull Eu-tteum up, she drops her bag and forgets to pick up her notebook in the craziness. She tries to get Eu-tteum’s attention and asks if he knows who she is. He responds that she’s his aunt, and then quickly corrects himself as he comes to his senses momentarily.

Yi-sang comes to help her with Eu-tteum, but Ha-ri asks him to go take care of the other drunks, who are trying to enter the taxi through the fuel tank, haha. After loading the men into the taxi, he looks back and picks up Ha-ri’s notebook.

Ha-ri manages to drag Eu-tteum to the bus stop, and he asks why Ha-ri is so old. He tells her to stop worrying about the age difference and looks determined to make a statement. Ha-ri sees her reflection on her phone and complains that she looks a mess. That fuels Eu-tteum’s misunderstanding, and he wonders if she’s trying to look for him. Oh dear, I think I know where this is going.

Eu-tteum kneels in front of Ha-ri and admits that he also wants to look good for Ha-ri. She looks around for their ride, and Eu-tteum leans in for a gentle peck. Ha-ri looks alarmed, and Yi-sang sees this as he approaches the bus stop.

 
COMMENTS

Ahhh! I love that Eu-tteum is making moves, even though they’re based on senseless logic. Despite his bumbling idiot tendencies, I actually find him likeable. He’s endearing and painfully sincere in everything he does. He isn’t trying to fool anyone, and he’s similar to Ha-ri in that they’re both open books. Of course, he’s not on the ship I’m rooting for, but he’s a lovely relief from the “adults,” who try so hard to put up a tough front. Sure, he’s naïve, but he embraces every opportunity with enthusiasm and optimism. He’s a lost puppy but an adorable one who now admires Ha-ri with more than professional respect.

Ha-ri is a super star working professional, and I love that she was explicitly acknowledged by everyone who really matters to her. She pours her all in her job, and I love that all her potential sperm donors expressed their support for her, each in their characteristic ways: Jae-young proposing marriage, Eu-tteum showing admiration, and Yi-sang complimenting her. But I think the most meaningful praise and support came from Editor Shim, who I freaking LOVE. Her tough love and high standards don’t make her a likeable leader for everyone, but Ha-ri clearly reads through her strict approach to work. Their relationship was the highlight of the episode for me, and I love seeing women pull each other up in the workplace. I have so much respect for Editor Shim’s devotion to her work, family, and her colleagues, and I’m sure Ha-ri’s boldness is something she’s inheriting from her dependable sunbae.

Yi-sang taking one step forward and two steps back was frustrating to watch in this episode, and it was even more infuriating to see how much it hurt Ha-ri. Even after acknowledging his shortcomings with being true to his feelings, Yi-sang continued to hide behind his tough exterior. I appreciate that Ha-ri called him out for every gesture and made him confront his feelings. While I want her to keep pushing, it’s not her responsibility to make Yi-sang recognize their undeniable chemistry. Her responsibility is to take care of her own heart, and I love that she’s approaching this tough situation with that as her priority. I know that Editor Shim offered to storm back to the office at the drop of a hat if Ha-ri doesn’t get the editor-in-chief position, but I also wish she would do the same if Yi-sang keeps breaking her heart. No one can overcome the deathly glare of Editor Shim, and scaredy-cat Yi-sang would definitely be scared into loving Ha-ri. But who am I kidding, he already loves her.

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My happy pill😍. I don't have much to say only that Ha-ri's childlike excitement at seeing Yi-Sang in the park made my week. You really will know how much people like you by their physical response to you. Ha-ri's was just pure gold. Kudos to Jang Na-ra for that detail.

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That hopping with glee towards Yi-sang in the park is a joy to behold - hat off to Jang Nara for all the micro acting and gesture in making Jang Ha-ri into a real person to us.

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I like that too. Hari is so happy to find Yi-sang in the park. She is like a kid hopping, excited to see her most favorite “animal”. And I must say, I was surprised to see a 39 year old woman pulling off being “cute”.

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I honestly commend him for trying to stay away from her. Although it is not that he doesn't want kids, it is that he can't have them. He is trying to temper her expectations associated with him because she can't have kids with him. He wants to protect himself and her from that. I can't be angry at him for that reasoning. That being said he needs to leave her alone properly because then she can move on, but alas it is a drama, so we shall see what happens.

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Whoa< hang on. So he can't want a relationship with her if he can't have kids?

He was beautifully up front on the limits so Ha-Ri is fully informed. Ha-Ri now is fully aware of the choice of: a relationship with him and finding another way for children - or find someone else. I interpreted her sharp response as that his openness firmly put the decision with her. We all arc up when a decision is placed at our feet that may show us up - it's hard to live up to our nice words.

It is unreasonable for him to step aside and he has every right to say I am interested in you and would like a relationship with you sans-children. He doesn't stop having desires just because children with him are potentially off the table. He has told her of the potential conflict and so that is now the choice for Ha-Ri.

Rather than him leaving the field (if he is still interested), shouldn't it be that if she is no longer interested in him because of children then it is for her to signal it's over and leave properly.

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I didn't say he couldn't, I said I commend him for not wanting to try. If you know you don't want kids in a relationship, but the person you like does, being in the relationship is wasting the other person's time. It is different for him because he can't have kids not that he doesn't want them, but he has told her he doesn't want kids. So in her mind he is still a viable sperm donor. It is better to allow both parties to be with people who are like minded in something as fundamental and life changing as having kids.

Also he may have been upfront about not wanting kids but she still had him as a candidate to donate sperm up until he said he didn't want a relationship with her. So in this case, yes, I commend him for trying to stay away as long as he did. Should she also stay away, absolutely, but that wasn't my point.

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..."That being said he needs to leave her alone properly because then she can move on"...

If you get to this conclusion, then it does read as that for him.

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They could still be together as a couple and she then could qualify for a sperm donation, so to me, the relationship doesn't have to be off the table, if he would just be honest with her. She could use the sperm of the office newbie. Just saying.

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Yes, if he isn't going to be with her, he should just leave fully, not the partial that he has been doing. But obviously he couldn't stay away so....but we are going to disagree, so that is cool too.

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That is it exactly. It only opens up other options - maybe just not the one she was thinking about.

I suspect the writer is really starting to set the stage for Ha-Ri's (our) quandary to play out. It is like she is being asked how far down do love and a relationship fall below having children. It's that point where our childhood fairytale visions of love and family meet the cold hard decision point. This is why I think Ha-Ri's diagnosis is a very clever writing device. Time left is short circuited so the question of children is now brutally folded onto the period where "love" is still in most people's calculation.

Also, it may be that he actually doesn't want children regardless of ability (too early to tell). That is his choice and if that is the case, weather he is able or not is mute and nothing to do with HaRi. The question is weather she is interested in him if it means no children. Just as HaRi has every right to reject him on her desire for children, for me, I would think that he also has every right to ask the question of a relationship without children. If that is his question, it is then for her to choose.

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It seems increasingly likely Jae-young's ex-wife had suffered a severe case of postpartum depression after the birth of the child. I genuinely dislike Jae-young as a character, his bullying patriarchal 'my way or the highway' attitude towards women would've been the last thing his wife needed.

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I could see Jae-young is no Saint but to have the full custody of Do-ah means something. How could a mother just leave like that for many months and not even seeing if Do-ah is ok with her father especially as he was a mess after divorce. In what I see, she just wants to be involve in her daughter’s big day but not much in her daughter’s life as a whole. I don’t see him as bullying patriarchal guy. My guess is he is still angry at his ex-wife until now as to reason we don’t know much yet except in the second episode where it was implied that she left them to advance in her career. I do agree though that she should be allowed to be part of Do-ash’s life if she’s really sincere and is trying to be a good mother.

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I think he might come around and who knows they might get back together. I am hoping they can. I don't see him with Ha-ri and as close/family friends they shine, just as their relationship stands now- brother/sisterly. I know he has feelings for her or thinks he still does.

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I'm almost caught up on this drama. LOVIN' IT.

The show teased the chance of Eu Tteum discovering Ha Ri's journal, but then it ended up in Yi Sang's hands. Ahhhhh. He's been understanding of her, but still. I can't wait to see his reaction.

I'm totally in Yi Sang's corner, but Eu Tteum and Jae Young stepped up this hour. I was impressed with Jae Young's blunt response to his ex-wife.

I teared up when Editor Shim and Ha Ri had their farewell hug. Editor Shim was intimidating, but she was full of tough love and supported Ha Ri when she needed it most. I hope she returns one day.

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Who'd expect a confession so early? And a put down so quickly after that... T_T Ha-ri clearly told Yi-sang that she is responsible for her own feeling, so why didn't he tell her the truth? I can sort of understand his fear of experiencing the same pain again, of a soured love and being pushed away. But shouldn't he think that Ha-ri is better equipped to handle the fact than the ex?

Eu-tteum is kinda growing on me this episode, his obvious high regard for Ha-ri is like a balm in the midst of all the upsetting things happening to her. That kiss was a shocker! Somehow it doesn't feel offensive coz it's like a puppy's affectionate nuzzle, LOL.

This highlight of this episode is definitely Editor Shim and her laser gazes. What a leader! That was a hard decision, but her reasons to make it was even more awesome. That hug made me tear up, tho the push after is just so her >< Can't she and Ha-ri just make their own magazine as The Baby's competition, please? Also, the parting gift is so thoughtful!

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It's the first time in my years of K-Drama watching,that I saw the thirdthird lead score the first kiss with the Female Lead and for that alone EuTteum gets a stamp this episode. Ofc, he's probably gonna get a rude awakening the next episode if Ha Ri's expression's anything to go by, but hey small victories!

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Yes indeed, we need to appreciate Eu-tteum for breaking new ground as a third lead. A stamp for his lips!

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Loved the parting gift, and that hug was so true to the characters!

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I continue to enjoy this show. I always like stories where the leads want to be together but can’t because of actually valid reasons (differing on whether you want kids is a big deal, you can’t exactly compromise). I said this last week too but I really like that Ha Ri is actually good at her job.

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This is one of my favorite shows with one of my favorite actresses continuing to hit it out of the park.

I have not been as familiar with the work of Go Joon but he is doing a fabulous job portraying Yi-sang. One of the things that I love about this show is it balance. Both our Male lead and our Female actually have the same really hard problem. I am absolutely certain that the reason that Yi-sang does not like children is that it compensates for not being able to have them. Go Joon has done a great job of showing how that pain has warped his life.

I love the character of Eu-tteum. He is earnest, hardworking, sincere, kind, and approaches life with real zest. All that he lacks is judgment and that will come with age. This is the kind of young man who will mature into the very finest of men. I would like to think that his experience with Ha-ri will be a major step in that direction. In any case I find this earnest young man to be someone who actually deserves real respect.

In contrast, I totally lost respect for Jae-young in this episode. His cruelty towards his ex-wife was utterly in-excusable. Mocking her for wanting to hold a first birthday party for her child? I am not Korean but I have Korean colleagues. First birthdays are a bid deal- one of my colleagues was planning the first birthday party before her child was even born- and her inlaws flew clear across the country to attend. I get that his ex is not the world's greatest mother but she is trying to be responsible. But the most revealing thing was his accusation that Jung-won came between Jae-young and Ha-ri. What a crock! If Jae-young had been serious about Ha-ri the two of them would have married a decade ago. But it seems like he always had this fixation about Ha-ri- and almost certainly it always hung over their marriage and blighted it from the very first moment. Jung-won's selfishness-and I am sure it was there- was not the only problem in their marriage. Jae-young had an equal share in its failure- and his cruelty towards his ex (there is no other word for it) is his way of hiding that truth from himself. Not that this is unusual- this world has far too many people who want to see themselves as victims in order to not have to take responsibility for their own lives.

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Feel kinda sad having Jae-young lambasted. My thought is if a marriage breaks, it's rarely about just one side's mistake. Kinda get why Jae-young said hard words to the ex-wife, because she hurt him and is still hurting him. I remember the ex-wife came at the funeral and didn't even say hello or ask about Do-ah to him. To suddenly want to celebrate Do-ah's birthday feels like she wants to be in the family picture superficially but not emotionally.
I do agree tho, him saying the ex-wife is the one getting between him and Ha-ri is coming out of the left field.

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I have, sadly, seen too many broken marriages and relationships. And far too many people striking out at the other parent with some form of "you ruined my life". Please note that we have never seen the ex wife berating Jae-young- it is always Jae-young striking out at her. I am absolutely certain that she too was part of the breakdown of their marriage and Jae-young's description of her as selfish is no doubt true.

But the deeper truth is that Do-ah needs both of her parents. Even if Do-ah's mother can only do the superficial things right now- and pay child support- that is not nothing. Jung-won is trying to do right and Jae-young won't let her (and this is sadly all to realistic in my experience). Even worse he believes that he can make Ha-ri take Jung-won's place- and that is not right at all. Jae-young thinks he is doing all of this for Do-ah but he really is not- if he wants what is best for his daughter he would accept the mother's help- and encourage her to build a relationship with her child.

If you saw her looking at Jae-young at the funeral you would have seen that she wanted to speak to Jae-young and ask those things- and then gave up because she knew she would just get a load of grief instead.

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Agree partially with both of you here. JaeYoung has clearly not processed his feelings post divorce and there's a lot of animosity and anger towards the wife in him. In his position,I might also not take kindly to the ex-partner waltzing in after no contact for a while and then casually expect to throw a party together while showing no concern for the kid in question. However, he is currently placing the full blame of the divorce on the partner and refusing to even think he could have contributed to the relationship's demise as well.(He did seem ill suited to handle Do-ah during first few weeks and if Ha Ri's imagination of JY as a husband is closer to reality, he definitely was no innocent victim) His ex-wife is also out of order for cutting off all contact (esp with such a young child) and then unexpectedly waltz in and expect to be let into the kid's life.And then to say you wanna get together. Woww, these two need to sort out their issues for the sake of their daughter and figure out a healthy way to co-parent.
My bigger issue with JY was how he used Ha Ri in that conversation. Yes, it was the ex-wife who brought her up but instead of telling her to mind her own business, he pettily latches on to his best friend as a weapon against his ex. This is why his offer to marry her or having him be a romantic partner to HR isn' t gonna sit well with me. He thinks he is solving two problems in one shot but it's clearly about making his life easier than about her. Sure, he may have had dormant feelings for her, but pursuing a relationship when he's got so much unresolved baggage and she is in such a vulnerable stage is a sure fire way to another romantic debacle.

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I can see your point about JaeYoung. As HaRi mum said, sweet little Doha needs both her father and her mother even though they are not together any longer.
And you are also right about that we don't know anything about JungWon.
At this point I would love to know more about custody and visitation rights in SK. As far as we know, it seems that JungWon has renounced to both which is really hard. The only thing we know is that she tried to give him money to assume her part of the maintenance, but he rejected it (something I cannot understand, even if your financial situation is fantastic: you don't want to touch that money, don't do it, just keep it in the bank for your daughter).
I don't know if in SK giving full custody of a child implies that the other parent can no longer be with the child, with no visitation rights. I mean, In my country this doesn't happen unless there's something terrible regarding that parent (abuse, crime), which doesn't seem to be the case here.
I know dramas tend to exaggerate, probably because divorce is something "bad" in terms of SK society, like his thought that "how can I give another woman the burden of a divorced man with a child" as if no one was allowed to have a past.
I still don't want to think that JaeYoung has other feelings to HaRi than being siblings and friends for life, and now that he's recovering her in his life maybe is mistaking his feelings. But I totally agree with you that telling JungWon that she got in the middle of his relation with HaRi was harsh and a mistake, because the only one who screw things up was himself. He was the one who chose his wife over his friend. No one else took the decision but him.

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South Korea is somewhat unique in Asia for having a child support agency as part of its government- and even more unique in that that agency will even help create visitation/ custody/ parenting plan orders because the ROK understands that working out these matters is important to the child. The child support agencies in America or Europe often do not offer such assistance to parents. While there are still a lot of social consequences to divorce and unwed motherhood in the ROK at least legally the South Koreans are among the more advanced countries in the world in this area.

So once Jae-young is actually emotionally ready to deal with the mother of his child there are people with serious expertise who can help him and Jung-won work out a way for Jung-won to be apart of her daughter's life- and pay an appropriate amount of support for her daughter. As you have pointed out Jae-young could simply put the funds away for his daughter's future even if he does not need financial help now. He needs to remember that the funds being offered are not his to turn down- that is really his daughter's money. He is allowed to use for current household expenses if he needs to- that is part of the purpose of support. But if he does not need to use it now to provide a home for his daughter then he needs to remember that he would be receiving it as a trustee for his child- and it is utterly wrong for him to throw those funds away.

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..."because the ROK understands that working out these matters is important to the child"...

I am only going by your DB tag (OldLawyer) but I take it you will get the following reference. As the editor of the Shinbone Star says in the The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance: "When the legend becomes fact, print the legend".

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It can also be that Yi Sang has this deslike or aversion against kids mainly because of how his relationship ended and somehow being tossed aside because of them when it was a issue of choosing and it was kinda implied in his conversation with Ha Ri at the hospital when he asked her if women will always choose a kid between a man and the first...Quite sure he also resented it for a very long time when the woman he loved for 17 years choose a child tossing all their history and him...

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Just wanted to say I love how badass Editor Shim is! She's all tough love and high standards, and her blunt ways may earn her enemies or cause friction for herself in the workplace, but at the end of the day, she's competent and fights for subordinates and team.

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Editor Shim is 💚
Hope to see her back soon!

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Thanks for the recap @dramallama!

You put my feelings for Eu-tteum into words. He is just so precious and I'm so happy Jung Geon-joo got this role after the iconic Lee Do-hwa. As someone who overthinks almost everything I do, I could really use someone like him in my life. There is something oddly therapeutic about his uncomplicated nature, lol. I enjoy his crush perfectly, because it's super entertaining and endearing to watch, and I know he'll be just fine in the end.

I'm actually happy Yi-sang didn't rush into a relationship when he wasn't ready to. It helps that I prefer slow-burn romances and need just a bit more build-up to them getting together. Ha-ri's bravery is inspiring, but it makes sense it would take longer for Yi-sang to be ready to bare all to her. While Ha-ri had the confidence to tell the world her weaknesses, those were (mostly) faceless individuals, whose opinion doesn't matter as much as the people she cares about. Yi-sang hasn't had the confidence to tell anyone, aside from his doctor, about his infertility because his relationship with the one person that had mattered most to him deteriorated because of it.
Starting a relationship with Ha-ri, given all her desires, puts a lot of pressure on him to come clean about, not just his infertility, but the emotional implications it's had over his life and choices. And revealing all that, I'm sure he recognizes, in turn, puts a lot of pressure on her early in the relationship, since he's already coming into it with a fear of breaking up over children. It's just...a lot. Even though he might see that Ha-ri is much more of a fighter than his ex, we also didn't see how long they struggled.

All that said, I loved Ha-ri's boldness in calling him out on his behavior, however understandable I found it. She was incisive in her criticism of his mixed signals, all while remaining respectful and classy. She truly showed she can handle her own feelings. I absolutely love her. I'm impressed with how they address conflicts in this drama. No matter how uncomfortable it is, the characters don't shy away from the hard conversations. Yi-sang, even when with-holding so much, tries to be as honest as he can about his deficiencies and cowardice.

It's actually rather sad comparing how quick Eu-tteum acts on his feelings, compared to Yi-sang, who has more depth to his feelings, but life has robbed him of his desire and confidence in acting on them or in trusting that they'll last. We all probably want to live life like Eu-tteum, but our worries over past experiences often get in our way.

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Also, this better not be the end of Chief Editor Shim. It was too abrupt and I really hope we check-in with her story soon. I love her relationship with Ha-ri so much. They are so hilarious together and supportive of each other that, if it wasn't for Yi-sang, I would have been happy with them becoming life companions.

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I declare Editor Shim my new girlcrush!

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I wanted to hit Yi Sang in this episode >_< He wants kids but he can't. I understand that he doesn't want Hari to give up her dream to have a kid for him but he could let her choose for her! They're too cute together!

A jealous Hari is really funny to watch. The scene in the café was so funny.

I will miss Editor Shim, she was a great chief. I hope Hari will take the job! I liked how she handled Hyu Joo and her behavior wih Yi Sang.

Jung-won doesn't know what a mum means. She wants a birthday celebration with 100 people for a 1 year old child she didn't see for monthes... If Jae-young can frustrate me with Hari, this time I was surprised he could be so calm, I wanted to knock her out with her plant.

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From the bits they tells us more likely Jung-won put the priority over her carrer as a doctor rather than one of marriage and children...We don't know of course if Do Ah was in their plans or not but more likely she gave up the custody because it was a burden for her carrer and it was more important..Now she wants Jae-young back and uses their daughter doing so...She wants to give now money and do this stuff but doesn't want to be part of her daily life or actively care for her daugher even more like Jae-young pointed out...Like mentioned before,not all women who give birth are mothers and somehow the show points that as well...In all fair she should have talked before the marriage and make it clear she doesn't want kids for a period as she isin't ready to have that big commitment and after they were on same ground marry but i doubt she cared and did what she felt it the moment till she was confronted with the issue...

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She's a doctor, she knows how to not have a baby. She must choose either she acts a mother either she hasn't no place in the life of Do Ah. The middle will just hurt her daughter.

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True,why do it half heartedly and hurt her child,hope she does realize that at least and thinks more of her daughter as the priority rather than her wants...She isin't a toy to want today and toss tomorrow or leave when she is bored...

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Thank you for the recap!
I am sad to see Miss Shim go, but she played her part in this story very well. Combining a career with kids is not an easy feat and I am glad that she opened up to Hari about that to show her support on a personal level as well.👍
Eu-Tteum, please stop messing with my theories about this show!😤
You put your ex in her place, JaeYoung! Do-Ha is the one for you, so please let Hari go.👨‍👧
You were absolutely right to confront Yi-Sang after the ddeokbokki dinner, Hari. Offering water to someone who cannot tolerate spice food (like me) is practically the same as proposing…😳😆

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I was "aweeeee" when he walks nonchalantly to the water cooler and quietly places the water in front of her.

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Hari is a total rockstar at work. How could anyone doubts that she deserves the position? Editor Shim makes me 😍. And overall, outside of the antagonizers mom mass readers of Baby Magazine, all of the women's relationships in this show are pretty solid. Even the respect and level headedness Hari uses to scold Hyo-joo, backing her up in public and scolding her in private, shows the respect she has for her team and the sort of leader she wants to be. She acknowledges her own failures in giving feedback earlier and training, and tells her very directly that her behavior is unacceptable. I'd want her as my boss.

I know there would be no drama if everyone just talked things out like normal adults. I get it, he's scarred by his past and that is a real thing that adults go through as well, but if so and he was really closed off he wouldn't give quite as many mixed signals. Wouldn't it be nice if they just had dinner and he said "I'm concerned about starting a relationship because your biggest priority is having a baby and I don't know if I can provide that." This is light Yi-Sang bashing because despite his shortcomings, I'm still a fan and Go Joon is doing a fantastic job balancing the emotions where I don't get too upset that he's stringing her along.

Eu-tteum's character has really redeemed himself from those first couple of episodes and it makes me excited to see more of this actor. He was really a bright spot in Extraordinary You and as much as I liked the leads, he stole every scene he was in.

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I think poor Yi Sang is in a big crossroad like his mind knows what he has to do and put a clear end and not send this mixed signals hurting Ha Ri yet his heart still goes to her even when he knows that the possibility to give what she wants most is very slim...I think that telling her the real reason(i hint he never told anyone the real reason why he broke up with his ex fiancee),that he can't have kids means game over for real and his heart doesn't want that aside of the fact he still deals with low esteem and confidence as he somehow doesn't consider himself man enough something is very sad...I guess that's the thing with feelings and how everyone deals with them,some do it better than other...

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The show has really turned the corner to show the various aspects of a career woman with a child. Whether Hari can "see" the various issues of people around her is another story. Editor Shim having to give up her career for her sick child may not have been in Hari's career/child checklist.
She should know all the reasons for Jae-Young's divorce, and his ex-wife's waiver of custody of her daughter (do mother's really want to do this?)
There are stories around Hari that show that having a child can be difficult even in the best of circumstances. That is why Yi-Sang is still in the picture even though he does not meet Hari's baby daddy criteria.
A hat tip to the writer for Eu-tteum's reverse noble idiocy.
And if there is a TV Award for the best GLARE, Editor Shim wins.

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*Editor Shim...I have been loving this badass character, but this episode,she just shone so bright. Makes me mad to think this wonderful, talented leader has to choose between her career and family while mediocre ones like Seung Tae get to muddle on..Arghh
Anyhoo,I lived for her magnificent glares and hope to see her back in the future episodes.
*Yi-Sang and HaRi's push and pull this episode woulda been eye roll inducing in the hands of lesser actors.But with these two,I didn't mind it too much.Hiding beneath Yi Sang's reluctance to show vulnerability is the true reason for his hesitation. That he wouldn't be able to give HaRi the one thing she so desperately wants. Sure, there's also the fear of rejection but I believe he is thinking more of HaRi than himself at this point. He is more than halfway in lorvve with her,but respects and cares about her too much to ask her to gamble on him. I am a bit worried that seeing her with ET might make him take the noble idiot route hard,but hope the show will rise above the trope.

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Episode 7. We still have nine episodes left for him to drop the 'I'm infertile' bomb on her. Unless this is one of the growing number of 12 episode run series.

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Ahhhh! You called out what I wanted to make note of but forgot in my comment! Editor Shim and being a working mom, the choice she had to make feels very real and very relevant cross culturally. Especially with a sick child. I interviewed someone for a senior manager position and they couldn’t attend the interviews because of an ill child. It was so heart breaking each time she had to reschedule and because I’m also a working mother —I kept hoping that we could make it work (my office at the time was very flexible) so I thought it would be a good fit if she needed to be out often. Ultimately she self opted out and it’s mothers who disproportionately to fathers end up having to make that choice. My colleagues and I are discussing how working for a family oriented company in the US works against us, more flexibility for working moms is GREAT, except we have a stay at home order and so it means a lot of women are carrying more of the weight of being with kids, usually because managers allow for flexibility... but that might cost promotions or raises later on. If school closing continues into the fall, there are moms who are probably more likely to drop out of the workforce. So I really felt for editor shim, the forgotten blankets, the feeling like even if you’re excelling at work, you might feel like a failure at home. I felt for her wholeheartedly.

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Age difference and all, I get how Eutteum can have misguided crush on Hari! She's so cool and brave, it's just normal that he looks up to her and mistakes that for a crush. When she came to his rescue at the client's office, that scene was... *chef's kiss! On top of that, he's totally clueless, and his desire to help her combined with the confidence he gets from being Spermking can get him into talking himself into being in love with her. Poor Puppy!

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Eu-tteum trying to fit his lanky self in the corner of the client's office is both sad and hilarious at the same time.

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Felt so sorry for him 😂

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This show until now has been very balanced and nuanced, showing different places people are regarding having children. Therefore, I trust we will get to know Doha's mom's reasons for not seeing her baby for months. Maybe she's a workaholic, but I feel that there's more to it...

Anyway, I feel sorry for Jaeyoung's position. No one wants to be abandoned with a baby, having to power through with a broken heart, and all the work and responsibility on your shoulders alone... But I can't forget that statistically this happens a lot more often to women than men. I take issue at people considering a good dad a superhero, and a good mom just a regular woman -because, "instinct"

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So much this! If my husband takes the kids to something, everyone thinks oh what a good involved dad! Babysitting and giving mum some time off! Have a medal! 😑
(He is a good involved dad but so he should be, no medals required)

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