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Open Thread #743

Happy Friday everyone!

Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.

 
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The first trailer for JTBC drama "39" was released today. It looks like a real fun show. It premieres in mid-February.

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It looked like a fun friendship drama!

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South Korea is introducing a new type of travel visa for Korean entertainment. The Korea Herald reported today that The Justice Ministry has been pushing for the Hallyu visa program on the back of soaring demand for education on Korea’s cultural content, to add further momentum to the Korean Wave and support the pandemic-hit local culture and music industry.

To be eligible for the program, a person must plan to stay for longer than 90 days in South Korea and enroll in entertainment-related education. At this time, no further details have been provided regarding the Hallyu visa. According to the official, we will know in the first half of 2022 regarding the maximum duration of stay and any possible age requirements.

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This is very interesting, and very smart on the part of the South Korean government. Thanks for posting this! One small correction--when I looked it up, it said a person must plan to stay for NO longer than 90 days. So this sounds like it is not intended as a full student visa, but rather for cultural tourists who have been impressed by Kdramas and Kpop and want to take a short term education class (people probably like myself, although I'm not sure how many old white guys the Republic wants running around the country for several months at a time. I guess if I spent a lot I'd be welcome!)

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This morning, thank to my my alarm that didn't go off, I broke my record to get ready to go to work!

Woke up at 7h16, put on my clothes, took my phone, ran, caught the train at 7h24 \o/

I have never been so efficient :p

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You are my new role model. Sigh. So hard to get going in the morning.

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I don't have issue to wake up, but my usual train is at 6.56, so imagine my face when I woke up at 7.16 u_u

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Just 8 minutes!? 🤯
I miss running for my 7:13 train! Feels like it's been years since I boarded train that early! I rarely missed that train; by the time I was in my 2nd yr I kinda knew all the regular ladies in compartment, the lady who always braided her daughter's hair in train(once she got off with only her one side done), the other one who always used to check her son and daughter's notebook and keep making then rub and write again, an ajumma who always kept searching for some or the other thing in her purse, continuously (she had some issue i believe but never dared to talk her), three kiddos who kept making weird and funny speculations about what would be there in my drafting tube (wish I could told 'em, but I loved hearing them) they sometimes even asked me what I think would come in their test by showing their notebooks (& I was like 😶😅), then the girl who always used to call her mom and complain about the food and atmosphere and other stuffs she was facing ( she was living at her relatives house) next year she moved to hostel but the complaint abt food stayed! then that English professor whom I loved conversing with, then the girl I was impressed with as I saw her reading Goldfinch in French (coming from an aspiring french learner) we sometimes made comments on each other's book, then there are soo many, but yes the one whom I would never forget is this girl, so a very cheerful girl, around 10 12 yrs old always with a pretty satin scarf tied around her hair, an I'd around her neck, a small bag on back which she never removed even while sitting, uk those bright eyed kids..she was one from them, however her mother was v silent and sad looking person if u compare it to her daughter (it was noticable uk) so..I never talked with her, nor did she with me, but we always smiled at each other brightly,daily, she used to get on the next stop from mine and I tried to make space for her whenever there wasn't, now that I think about it I realy liked her, we saw each other for around 6 months I suppose, then like any other normal day she got in the train, train got packed, I couldn't make any space for her, she came and stood infront of me (pretty near), I closed my book as with such crowd i couldn't have read, and just sat there, and as she was v near, I saw her ID card, aahh.... it wasn't of any school, it was a ID card from a famous Cancer hospi in the city, and I just cannot even describe what I felt that time, literally no words, then I saw above, her scarf, things made sense, she got down at her station, that's the last time I saw her from window, she was walking ahead and her mother behind her, trying to hold her hand! My pracs started then so my timings were changed, and then theory exams never happened as covid came, so after that niether i went to uni nor catched that 7:13s train, and never met that people again! 😌 (thanks for reading if you've made this far)

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I recognize people too but they often disapear and are replaced by other ones, I guess life happened :)

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Thanks for a delicious serving of a slice of your life. Your ability to recall details and place them in perspective is astounding. I am currently reading the newest Liane Moriarty and I should add that you have a novelist's knack for storytelling. You are very observant, kind and compassionate. Thanks again - your post brightened an otherwise dreary day.

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Ah your comment made my day! 😊
Are you reading 'apples never fall'?
I've big little lies in my tbr list for so long, let's see if I'll read it someday!
Thanks for your kind words, you're too kind!💕✨

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Actually listening to the audio Apples Never Fall because the actress who performs it has a wonderfully snarky Aussie accent. Great way to power through mindless chores (like raking leaves).

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Impressive! It’s amazing what you can do when you have to 😄

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So I'm waiting for Our Beloved Summer ep 7 to drop in my region. I liked it a lot, so I went to look for the Webtoon. I also liked the available Webtoon episodes and noticed the comments swarming about a previous webtopn by the same author: Spirit Fingers, so I started reading that one too.
It is so good! There's a bunch of dorks that meet to draw together, and it's so funny and wholesome, and the teenage characters go through loads of growth. The humor in this is super up my lane - yes, I'm one of those simpletons who enjoy having a character nicknamed Poop - and characters are flawed and nuanced and Im loving this to bits. Reading this, I'm confident that I'm going to love OBS right until the end - at least if the adaptation doesn't stray too much from the source material.
Anyway, I retook to drawing a lot since last summer, and Spirit Fingers inspired me to look if there's that type of informal group in my town, which really never crossed my mind. Guess what? I'm trying it out next Monday! Wish me luck, Beanies! (fingers crossed that people won't mock my lame totally self-taught doodles)

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All the best chingu! Would love to see your doodles!🤗

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Thanks, that's nice of you, Unnie! I don't feel confident to share. But the day I make some kdrama fan-art that isn't totally embarassing, I'll post it on the Beanie-wall ☺️💚

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That’s really awesome, I’m trying to be more like that - my head knows that if I try something out and it’s not for me that’s no big deal but it’s very hard to make myself actually do it.

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I feel you, beffels. It's hard. Actually that's why I shared this with you guys: I needed to make myself accountable and not look for last minute excuses to skip it 😂

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You’ll have to let us know how it goes!

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@beffels, I did it! Spent 2 hours this afternoon making 1 minute and then 5 minute croquis with a model, it was a bit stressful at first, but really fun! The place is kind of artsy and neat, and there were people with different levels of ability but all super nice. I'm super happy that I've found this group! 🤗 Hope you find something fun to try out too😉

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@flyingcolours, that’s awesome! I love that there’s a mix of abilities, makes it easier to feel comfortable than when everyone is just super awesome 😅 Congratulations on getting out there 🙂 I hope I can find something fun too!

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Spirit Fingers is indeed so good but i hated so much her Mother

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Both Mom and Dad are terrible

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I hate to admit to salivating over a drama star, just really hate it! But this week I discovered Jang Hyuk and now I'm terminal. And Viki carries so many of his dramas - will I ever come out the other end? It's bad, I tell you

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I get you totally!!! Happened to me too! Guess with whom?
'Cho sung woo' (It was pretty bad, then faded for a lil time then came back again, i don't think I have the other end to come out)
My cure is pretty simple though; re-watching FOS now and then!
Btw I've seen jang hyuk only in voice S1! if you find any other good drama of his do share!

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Thank you beanies for your support in my time of need. I just finished watching JH in Fated To Love You/You Are My Destiny. Highly recommend if you like old school rom-com-Melos.

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"The Slave Hunters," is my very favorite Jang Hyuk drama.
I also liked, "Thank You," "Windstruck," "Wok of Love," and "Bad Papa." If you're into something really heavy try, "Innocent Thing," and "The Client."

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I can’t find many of the older Dramas. Rats.
I would really like to watch ‘Slave Hunter’ so tuank you for highlighting it. Even though I will always be on the side of the slaves/former slaves!) even in a Drama context but enjoy Jung Hyuk’s acting so much.

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Not to mention than Jang Hyuk REALLY looks good in TSH! I think his devilish laugh is so funny.

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TSH is on Viki, and so is "Thank You."

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@kdnomore: unfortunately, in the AP region where I am, it is not licensed by Viki. I am so cross!

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I enjoyed Wok of Love. It’s a light rom-con. You’re gonna love Jang Hyuk’s character here. I’m also a fan, BTW.

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Don’t feel bad, I bet most of us have done something close with at least one k actor! *cough Hyun Bin* *cough Park Seo Joon*😍😍

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Now, now, don't feel embarrassed. Dramabeans is THE Support Group to come and squee about your kdrama crushes (and also to cry and rant when they make terrible drama choices). Besides, is there anyone who feels indifferent to Jang Hyuk? He's too awesome

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You said it sister.

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Jang Hyuk is ridiculously charismatic. I especially loved his characters in Wok of Love and Chuno. I had SLS bad in both

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I’ll try those, thanks. (But what is SLS? Serious Love Sickness? Is there a vaccine?)

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😆 close...Second Lead Syndrome, so be warned lol

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SLS = second lead syndrome - that character isn't going to end up with the person they love :'(

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I love him so much in Wok of Love!

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C.H.U.N.O.

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Fated to Love You with Jang Nara, IRIS 2, both good. You can look up the episodes of Law of the Jungle he is in, those are fun, too.

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Jang Hyuk is a really charismatic actor. Nothing wrong liking him. He is one of my first kdrama loves. You will find a lot of fans here.

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You don't want to miss him in My Country either (Netflix).

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I just feel the need to point more people to F4 Thailand. It is the newest version of the Hana Yori Dango/Boys Over Flowers/Meteor Garden story.

It's currently airing (episode 4 drops Sat) and you can stream the episodes on the official GMMTV YouTube channel...

It is so good, everyone! So so so good. It has managed to take the source material and update it thoughtfully, while also changing the story just enough to add much more depth and meaning to these characters and the story.

I watched the first 2 episodes with my jaw on the floor at how amazingly they kept to the story but somehow stopped it from being cringy or problematic, and made such a WORTHWHILE show (hard to say about the 7th iteration of something usually)

Here's just one significant change for me: I have never rooted for the ML in any version. I basically felt like I was accepting the OTP cuz I had to, not because I wanted to.

But in F4? Oh I'm fully on board with the ML's arc and I'm rooting for his development. The show doesn't shy away from some really horrible bullying, either, so it isn't like they softened his character... they just gave him depth.

There is so much more to gush about, but I'll stop here for now lol.

You should watch it!

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I contain myself from watching to wait for my episodes...Like 1 episode is not enough till April!
In terms of plot movement they sure use Hana Yori Dango as source among all the versions...

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So, Im still on the job hunt. Ive only been actively looking since Monday but Im beginning to get scared. I dont know what I want. i don't know what I dont want. Ive completely smashed my sleep schedule into smithereens! Ive been trying to get it together since Monday but it seems every day I make it worse! Today I went to bed at 8am and slept for 4.5 hours. Im going to try to go to bed early and sleep through the night but whats going to happen is around 6/7 oclock Im going to fall into a light doze--maybe 15 minutes before I snap awake and because of that 15 minute doze I wont fall asleep until after 6am. Its been that way all week long! Or, Ill fall asleep at midnight amd wake up 2 hours later, up for the rest of the night. Ive tried sleeping pills--melatonin but they dont kick in until the morning. I took one at 6pm and it didnt kick in until 8am! Also, my bank card doesnt work and I dont know why and Im too out of it during the day to investigate. I got ride of my atm debit card to help curb impulsive spending while unemployed but do have an atm card which randomly stopped working awhile ago. I need groceries so have been attempting to instacart them using my paypal account and thats not working so Im running low on food but am too unsteady to drive to the bank, ask about my card, get groceries and drive home again. Its upsetting. Tomorrow is the anniversary of my moms death and I always make her favorite meal to remember her on that day (and freeze half to have again on her birthday in March) so if my groceries dont come today it will be the first time since shes passed I havent celebrated her like this.
I havent been watching anything at all except for F4. I think that drama is actually good. Like GOOD good. Not crack good or good for a BOF adapatation but good. Its weird and I dont know how I feel about that. But Thyme apologizing ro Rwn for their fight and being upset that Ren was just going to leave him, plus Thyme waving after Rens airplane like am overgrown 5 year old? That was precious and you could see Gorya softening towarda him in those moments.
Hope youre all doing great out there Beans

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Hang in there dear!
Interestingly sometimes back in class we had a huge discussion on sleep, sharing here the points i remember hoping it might help just a little bit.
-Avoid having tea/coffee after 6 in evening (6 hours prior to sleep, ik everybody knows this but still caffeine is one of the major cause, and not only from coffee but from all beverages, chocolates and stuffs)
- Don't indulge in any intense physical activity/ exercise atleast 2 3 hours before sleeping.
- Don't force yourself to sleep, take it easy.
- Even if you're not able to sleep atleast try to make a routine to do before sleeping, like journalling/praying/listening 🎧, you can try whatever fits for you, for eg. Reading is my routine, my body have understood now, after 10 12pgs i automatically starts dozing off!
- Avoid screen / Blue light, (Another major factor) always put your dark mode on after evening, try to listen to music or audiobook instead of staring just before sleeping.
- make your room dark cozy, without any external noise!
-During day time try to be as physically active as you can. I had a patient experiencing better sleep after she started her brisk walk, so it certainly helps!
- Roughly plan your next day before sleeping (even if you're planning it in your head it helps)
- Seek out prof. help if you're feeling stressful, cause it's one of THE major cause.
- Take small small steps towards bettering your sleep everyday and I'm sure you'll have your sweet dreams back soon! 💕✨
Fighting 💪!😊

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I am going to write this down and try it! I am SUCH a mess right now. During the day I just sit because Im too tired to do anything! And then one of those sneaky catnaps sneak in and I DO sleep for a few minutes but that few minutes of relief seems to cost me hours! Youre a good BEAN!

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Loan shark with a heart of gold said this water maid is a GOOD BEAN! Did you'll hear that? I'm a Good Bean!😂🤭 yay!

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Lack of sleep is awful and it makes everything else seem worse as well, which then makes it hard to sleep - vicious cycle! I hope you get some decent sleep soon.

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what i do to fall asleep is to plug into my phone, where i've downloaded an audiobook (one i have read before, not a new book) checked out FOR FREE from my seattle public library. there is a timer, took me a week to realize this, on the app to listen to the books (i set mine for 30 or 60 minutes) and keep the volume low... it's like being lulled to sleep like when we were young! give it a try, just re-listen to a book you already read - a new story is frustrating, as you will fall asleep and not know where you left off...

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i enjoyed listening to The Hobbit, narrated by Andy Serkis/Gollum! he does all the voices very well, plus no one else can do Gollum...

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I will give it a try! I normally put on an ep of The Great British Baking Show and let them lull me away. But now nothing works. Nothing!

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the other book i've listened to is The Thorn Birds... i wish the music was included, but alas it was not... it's just a long quiet story i can listen to over and over....

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You should go to the mydramalist forum for F4. I can't stop posting/reading posts about the drama. It's just too good!

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Hi Isa! Insomnia really takes a toll. I've had some sleepless periods and been having erratic sleep patterns for years now, and what helps me the most is acepting it instead of stressing out because I'm not getting enough sleep.

Really, acceptation goes a long way - it allows you to relax and embrace all the rest you can get. I just lie down with my eyes closed hoping that even if my brain isn't getting enough sleep, at least my body is getting rest. I kind of slip in and out of sleep, and usually can operate in the world the following day. I also vouch for turning on a meditation app to shut down anxious thoughts in bed - I used Headspace in my roughest moments, and it did wonders. Nowadays I just listen to podcasts.
Other tips:
*Try to get tired during the day. A brisk walk outside can make a difference (and it does wonders to ease your mind too). If that's not an option, YouTube is full of yoga/K-pop dance/... tutorials. They saved my sanity during quarantine.
*No staring at the screen in bed! (I break this rule way too often and come to DB or read webtoons all the time, but it is bad for my sleep, bad!)
Hang in there!

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Having suffered from insomnia my entire life, I can only offer advice about what helps me - although it doesn't work all the time of course.

Firstly, make your bedroom for sleeping and just sleeping. When you go in there it is to sleep. No phones, TVs or any possible distractions. Hopefully this is something that's possible with where you live. But when I go into that room, it's to sleep.

Secondly, don't eat after a certain time. I tend to go to bed at 9/9:30 or so and so I don't eat anything after 7pm. I also don't drink anything - even water - after 8pm. When I go to bed, it's with an empty stomach and bladder because if you do get to sleep you don't want anything to wake you up.

Don't drink caffeine of any kind after midday or at most 3pm. And don't eat dessert or large amounts of sugar either.

If you do wake up and are lying there and can't sleep, just stay lying there. Don't get up, turn on the TV (well there won't be one), pick up a novel or do anything to tell your body that this is a time of night that can have activity in it.

And... good luck. Insomnia is stressful and unfortunately stressing about insomnia just makes insomnia worse.

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For some of us melatonin works better if taken in the morning and then it kicks in at night.

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Really? Ill try that on Monday when I don't have any place to be. Because it is 3:15 and Im wiiiiiiiide awakw

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Yes. It does nothing for me if I take it at night.

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I stayed up, went to church had a *painful* stomachache and left early and finally crashed at noon and slept for (after being up for....24 hours....) 2 hours. Siiiiiiiigh. this is the least pleasant thing Ive done.

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Happy weekend Beanies and keep Beaning On!

Booster shot came for a short visit this week, but Anxiety was not keen on sharing my attention for long and kicked the intruder out soon after. Headache switched alliances last minute and got permission from Anxiety to overstay my welcome until this morning.🤕

As soon as I dealt with the last anxiety trigger at dawn, I hurried outside for a walk in the sunrise to clear my head a bit. It was cold and slippery outside, so my sleepy legs had an acceptable excuse to go slow through the small and quiet paths. The fog started to clear up, inside and around me. I took in all the shades of glittering white and light grey, courtesy of the sunlight and frost. Birds were twittering but I chose to keep silent. My mind had been more than loud enough all week.🌅

Headache lost some of its footing during our walk, deteriorated as the day went on, until Sleep came to deliver the final blow. Right now, my Ipod with rain sounds and a book are waiting by the bed to calm me and to distract me into a state of slumber. Only this night, they might actually succeed.😴

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What a pretty description of a morning walk. Rest well, Turtie! 💚

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It was even better in reality, thank you!❤️

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Lovely, I almost feel like I shared your beautiful scenery. Glad you are feeling better.

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I kinda need the pretty memory, because it has started raining again!😒Thank you!❤️

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You might be missing your calling as a writer.

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...What a huge compliment this is! Thank you!❤️

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Any Beanies who are digital nomads? About to start reading on the book “Nomad Capitalist.”

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Have you ever heard the saying, "tourists kill the thing they purport to love?"

I love travel, I've lived abroad, and I've been a tourist in many locations, so I'm not saying this from a position of scolding high-ground. I just like to point out, when I can, that being a digital nomad, like being a tourist, carries with it a highly negative burden to the place that can only be mitigated through intentional actions. I would have you question whether "Nomad Capitalist" is really the kind of approach and motivation you want to take to becoming a digital nomad (I would hope not).

This is a really good, short article that reflects some of what I'm getting at:
https://www.lonelyplanet.com/articles/digital-nomads-are-ruining-travel

Obviously, you'll do what you're going to do, but I feel too strongly not to say something.

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Oh, don't get me wrong. That's not the lifestyle I'm going for and I know some people who are like that. It was just a recommended book and I was just a teeny bit curious to see what it was all about. I just keep an open mind about this and see what valuable info (if any) I can glean from it.

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🙃 I wasn't trying to imply anything about you btw. I just wanted to give you my perspective because I feel quite strongly about it. I echo everything Fly Colours said below too. I think there is absolutely good possible in travel/living abroad, but decisions have to be intentional. 🙂

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No, I appreciate that! Sometimes we don't see the bigger picture or other perspectives if we don't see/hear it. :D

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Yeah... Digital nomads. Coming from a city that became a hotspot for digital nomads over the last years (they are selling my country as "the European California", so ridiculous, I kid you not), I just have to say that I totally support people's right to live where the hell they want to - I don't get tired of saying that EU's border policy is a crime against Humanity. But that if a person comes from a situation where they move countries not out of necessity and just to enjoy local weather/prices/people's friendliness, they should at least bother to learn the local language, engage with the people and culture, and take caution about their impact on local economy and housing prices

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Ops, I'm sorry if that came off too harsh. Been living abroad ever since I was 19, so I totally get it why people would want to move countries. It's just that I'm not into the "expat" stance - I think that your experience is richer if you move countries with a genuine interest about the place you're living in, and keeping in mind your impact on that place. But if you're thinking about living abroad with an open mind, I totally support it! I truly believe that everybody should experience being away, as Goethe said, "travelling years are learning years"

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Don't worry, I'm just exploring options, keeping an open mind. Being Asian, the culture and value of family is strong so it won't be easy for me to just pack up and leave and head off alone. I'm just using some time to read up and see what other people are doing and what I can do/think about in the future.

I love traveling to explore local food and culture, but never really thought of moving entirely elsewhere.

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Southern Europeans are strong in family bonds too (well, not quite as much as what we see in kdramas, but still very often follow the living in the same house/building/neighborhood model) so I get what you mean. I'm a bit of an anomaly because I left so young. Most of my friends ended up leaving the country too, because the economy is crap, and that's why I was a bit prickly in my reply: the ones who stayed behind are being driven out of the city because of all the housing speculation around Airbnb and Golden Visa programs, sigh.
Anyway, going abroad doesn't have to be a drastic decision - university exchange programs are great to dip your toes for a shorter time, language courses, internships at different companies and organisations, and there's also the option of just giving yourself a couple of months to see if things work out at a place you like either working online or looking for a local job...
If you feel interest for other cultures, I'd totally recommend you to give it a try! Traveling and living abroad really changes your perspective on so many things... It's a bit like reading: it's hard to explain why it matters, but if you do it, you get it 😉 💚

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So, Korean Culture Club in full swing we had 30 people in the poetry club, and 98 people watched the video so far. Jinseok Seo was a guest - straight from Seoul and it was 1am for him, but we discussed it before and he said he doesn´t want to pre-record, he wanted to see us, too. We read sijo poetry in korean, english and estonian, though at the end we agreed it should be sung - Seo said, there was once a concert in tallinn but people left tho!! hahaha. because it is hard to endure in singing. But, I mean, did Hwang Jin Yi sing, like that? stretching all the words mile long? Then why did everyone love her... I guess I have to watch that movie, Hwang Jin Yi, 2007. Anyway, it was a good discussion and we learned a lot about Korean poetry, Jinseok also was hoping (oh, he spoke estonian btw, because he lived here from 2004-2012) that we form some group who will start translating old sijo because really, estonian people know loads about japanese poetry but very little of korean. Jinseok is translating a really famous estonian book right now.

so, yeah, guess I will try to find Hwang Jin Yi somewhere.
I´m so thrilled and so grateful, we are starting something fantastic. I feel like a cultural embassador.

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Heavens, you totally are a cultural ambassador, well done!

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I can't believe that despite having 3 streaming services subscription, no airing kdrama on them that hold my interest for the last 2 weeks, i'm so behind on Bulgasal (ntflx), Snowdrop (d+), and haven't pressed play on Ghost Doctor (iqy). real life (work life) has been rough i guess, so I'm searching the 'dark site' for something light but meaningful show haha..
and there it is, Sweet and Salty Office (MBC, 2018), the show that i've been craving to watch but couldn't at that time because no subs available, now the dark site has it, i'm devouring my self with it 1 ep per night. it's really something i look forward to after work, wether i came home after work from office (twice a week) or clocking time after work from home. The show is an office drama, AND food, (look so) delicious food, i love office drama and i love food centric show, so with this show i have the best of two worlds haha..every ep consist of two parts, and each part has a focus on work life taste,,funny but thoughtful. I really like it.
and this weekeend, I'm watching Sodoku Gurume new years special ep, ahh Goro is in a Kyoto-Tokyo trip, blissful watch because of all the scenery and some nostalgic feeling since my solo trip to Japan couple years ago,,ah I miss travelling! *cries*

wishing you a wonderful weekend, and a week ahead, beanies!

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sorry for typos, the show's title is actually Kodoku no Gurume (solitary gourmet),

*the typos may or may not been influenced by getting a call during typing the post on my cellphone, haha

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