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[Drama chat] Happily never after

Happily never after — a bit of a paradox, isn’t it? — because happily ever after is the icing on the cake. It’s what you expect from a K-drama OTP after they’ve gone through the motions: strangers to friends, lovers to noble idiots. Yunno, the whole nine yards.

But overactive imagination aside, do you ever wonder if some of these OTPs will stand the test of time? I mean, real-life couples break up all the time, so how much more the fictional ones — especially the ones who have their romance tacked onto the plot as an afterthought. Or the ones that are just shining examples of relationship red flags *coughs* Nevertheless *coughs*. And then there are those who still have unresolved issues that are just glossed over in order to wrap up the story by Episode 16.

For instance, while I loved Do Min-joon and Cheon Song-yi from You From Another Star, and Ri Jung-hyuk and Yoon Se-ri from Crash Landing on You, I don’t think these relationships would last past a few years due to obvious distance-related reasons. I mean, it has to be a struggle going back and forth between planets, or seeing each other for only two weeks in a year. At some point, they’re bound to get tired.

(And because I’m very petty, I see a breakup in the future of Who Are You—School 2015’s OTP. We all know Kim So-hyun and Yook Sung-jae’s characters were the real OTP, anyway. Sorry, not sorry to Nam Joo-hyuk’s character.)

So, it’s your turn to weigh in.
 

If you were to stretch your imagination beyond the end credits — for any reason at all — which drama OTP(s) won’t stand the test of time?

 
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Well there is an obvious answer to this one but I’m not going mention it

School 2015! Yes Yook Sung-jae was best boy!

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Wait the most recent one I can think without the male lead being an absolute asshole was Forecasting Love & Weather. ML was too immature for FL and I honestly don’t understand why they got back together at the end

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I believe that not only could they get back together but would stay together because they had dealt with their traumas and, more importantly, were able to talk to each other. That fact alone- having someone you can talk and listen to- is a powerful bond all by itself.

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Oooh I also got one that’s a little bit controversial.
In Hospital Playlist I’m not sure if Yang Seok-hyeong & Chu Min-ho will last.

Seok-hyeong’s previous marriage ended because of his toxic mother. Just because his dad died doesn’t mean his mother still won’t expect Seok-hyeong to be at her every beck and call and be her only emotional support.

The drama kinda glossed over this when they ended with Yang Seok-hyeong & Chu Min-ho dating.

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I don't trust any HP's couples :p

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Tbh I agree! But I will say the platonic and romantic-ish friendship between Jeong Ro-sa & Ju Jong-su is the only one relationship that is true endgame. I don’t think they’ll ever be a couple but their friendship will last till the end

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Most of the chaebol-ordinary person couples.
Also couples that one of them is an angry, rude person toward everyone else except his/her loved one.

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Pretty Noona who buys food/Something in the Rain.
They never resolved their issues and just pretended like nothing happened in ep 16!
It’s an OTP that shouldn’t have gotten together imo.

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The same could be said of SYJ in THIRTY NINE. Turning a "mistake" into a marriage with no chemistry is fit for disaster. The show ended without an actual marriage but her alone going to adopt a young boy.

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That was the first one that came to mind! She's done no growing up at all; by the end, he's more mature than she is but still delusional about her. Shared misery is no basis for a relationship. He'll be frustrated by her neverending childishness and lying, and what is he going to do on Jeju?

I also think Eun-seob and Hae-won from When the Weather Is Fine wouldn't last. She doesn't really fit into small-town life and won't have enough to do there. I didn't buy her last-second personality change or see them do anywhere near enough to resolve their individual and interpersonal issues.

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I can see the couple of Pretty Noona together. At the end, they spent more time separated than together but still in love with each other. The FL finally decided to stop to please everybody. She talked to her toxic mother, broke up with the jerk, stopped to wait for getting her job back, etc. They both were immature but happy when they were only alone together. Now, they learnt their lesson.

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I didn't think Pretty Noona/Rain ended with then getting back together. I think they just briefly met again. I got the feeling the studio was strong-arming the writer to supply a happy ending so the writer begrudgingly gave us something that could be interpreted either way.

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I agree. He was still infatuated with her and she was not compromise her new sense of individual freedom for him. Nothing really changed from their first break up.

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While reading this, I was actually thinking about those couples that I think would last! I guess that shows my assumption that most of them wouldn’t instead of would! (@unit’s idea is brilliant, btw).

These are ones of probably many that I think they would last as a couple. I think Joo Won and Uee in Ojakgyo Brothers, OTP of My Unfamiliar Family, OTP from Uri Husband Mr Oh, OTP of Hospital Playlist, OTP of Start-Up, OTP of A Business Proposal, OTP of Bossam, OTP Love btw Fairy and Devil, OTP of New Life Begins, OTP of Camellia would last as a couple probably for a very long time.

Those that I think might break up at one point: OTP of Run On (I’m not sure if MJ will stick around if there is sth she isn’t happy with ML or their life together. She is a very free spirit), OTP Weightlifting Fairy (Both are very young), OTP of When the Weather is Find (FL too much baggage and unpredictable), OTP of Chocolate (FL needs face her mother and probably cut her off of her and her brother’s life for good or solve this issue somehow) among others.

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I agree with you, although I wish Eun Seob and Hea Won learn to find their balance. I think they can be together for a long time not a conventional “happy ever after married couple”, but maybe in just a way in which they feel freer: Eun Seon dealing with his books in the store and Hae Won having time to enjoy her music and her time. Above all things I just want Eun Seob to be happy, and I think Hae Won learned that form the time she was away from him.

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In fact, in Camellia we get to know that the OTP lasts ;)

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We know that our OTP in Camellia are still together when an adult Pil Gu (so handsome!) is signed by a pro baseball team. I see their relationship as a forever one.

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It's true, adult Pil Gu was so handsome!! Jung Ga Ram cameo there :)

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At the time I made a wise ass comment along the lines that there must have been something in those marinated crabs in Ongsan that little Pil Gu grew up to be Jung Ga Ram
OT. Little Pil Gu (Kim Kang-hoon) went on to be sweet Yong-tae in RACKET BOYS (2021).

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Kim Kang Hoon is doing a good job in many dramas :)

LOL with your marinated crabs comment XD

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I'm absolutely sure Lee Bo Young and Lee Jong Suk will not make it to the end of LJS's military service in I Hear Your Voice.

And I know we saw the future in Reply97 and Reply88 but both of the women seemed very bored with their husbands at that point. Which is a shame after what they put us through.

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And 1994 for that matter - it should have been chilbongie and it will be.

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I didn't watch that one. I will take your word for it.

In 97 I didn't want her to end up with the older brother at all, I loved the pairing while they were young, but in the future scenes it seemed like she is too volatile to remain satisfied with her calm husband. I don't know, maybe they were just trying to act older and overdid it.
But I have to confess I actually felt a revengeful glee in 88 when I saw the bored future scenes.

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These are shows that I actually enjoyed watching and got the happy ending I was hoping for, but deep down I knew these pairings would never last IRL:

Descendants of the Sun ( not intentionally being snarky here)
Heirs (I see a theme developing here)
A Witch’s Romance

And every “reality” dating show ever.

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I really enjoyed Descendants of the Sun, despite my strong dislike of military related shows, but I'm speaking from personal connections to the show than the drama's setting context.

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Go Sera and Gong ( Memorials) will live happy ever after with him trying to figure out what goes on in her head, and being happy by making her smile. I can see them being deeply in love surrounded by lots of kids who just shake their heads while mum and dad go with their (embarrassing) bickering.

I know DoHee and HaeKyung (Dinner Mate), IkJoon and Song Hwan (Hospital Playlist) and DaJeong and YeongDo (You are my spring) will be together forever, because their relations were mature, we’re born from knowing life isn’t easy and neither is love, but if you fight and work for it, you’ll be rewarded with a mature relationship.

There were some OTP that never were and I wish they were, although not pretty sure if they would really work together, like SiMok and YeoJin (Forest of secrets), ChaeRok and EunHo (Navillera), HyunJoo and GaHyun (365: Repeat the year), Eun Jung and SangSoo (Be Melodratic) and JiHyuk and SeoKyung (The Good Detective).

And also there are those couples I totally refuse they are not happy ever after because they are just absolutely adorable together like TaeMoo and Hari (A business proposal), Han Byeol and TaeSoong (Sh**ting Stars), Eun chal and HanKyul (Coffee Prince) or JungRok and YoonSeo (Touch your heart).

I also think

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I love the couples who weren’t but we wish they would I like the Be melodramatic pairing the best as it would be a timing thing in the future when they were both ready. I do think it would work and they would adopt a couple of children from the children’s home and still visit and support regularly.

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Awww, I totally agree. When they are ready after they both healed. They would make a wonderful couple that would give so much love to others.

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I like the pairing from NAVILLERA. I also understand why we did not get it- it would have detracted from the main story.

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365 Repeat couple are probably my favorite nonpairing, just because they worked so well to solve the problems within the storyline. If they'd gotten together, it'd be another over-eager happy ending that would've felt too artificial.

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Oh my God Memorials!!! I love them!

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Yes to Sera and Gong. I was looking for this comment. Their love would surely stand the test of time and trials.

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They are my profile banner for a reason!

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I agree with everything you said. Can we be friends 🥲🤧

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I love search www but PARK mogun and Bae Tami are doomed. They have a fundamental flaw ; they have different ideas of what their lives should be like. I would be shocked if they last five years . One person wants to get married and the other doesn't........It's just a matter of time.

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Yeah, & none of them want to sacrifice their view of life ( such as: Ta mi never getting married & Mo gan wanting a married life with children) . So, it's already foreshadowed that this couple has no future.
But as a whole, I liked the drama , one of my favourites of all time.

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Absolutely. When she was already babbling about how they were doomed to break up in the moment they were agreeing to get back together, I wanted to reach through the screen and smack her. Both of them, actually. They were also boring as hell.

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🤣🤣🤣
I can feel it from here

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I did really like the drama overall, honest! The OTP was lame but didn't ruin it for me.

I suspect the Good Twin and the surgically-altered mother-in-law in What's Wrong With My Mother-in-Law weren't fated to last long, either. 😂

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Agreed. I know of several marriages (my own included) that ended because one person wanted children and the other didn’t. Kudos to Bae Ta-Mi for resisting the urge to get carried away in the moment—for being perceptive and mature enough to understand that their fundamental difference would most likely lead to the end of their relationship, or, if they stayed together, leave one partner bitter and resentful of whichever choice they end up making about having children.

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That's what I liked about the drama. It took a more realistic approach to relationships while most of the dramas focus on how love conquers everything. No, it doesn't. There are issues those exist & definitely kudos to bae tami for not getting carried away rather staying strong on her beliefs.

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This is the couple that came to mind for me as well.

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The thing about Morgan and Tammy was they both acknowledged that the relationship didn't have legs, that it would be ultimately doomed, but they moved forward anyway. So that pairing doesn't strictly fall under the 'happily ever after' category. Besides, the series ended with the three women (without any men) driving off into the sunset.

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Dr. Ahn Jung-won and Dr. Gyeol in Hospital Playlist.
Song Kang and Park Min-young in Forecasting Love and Weather.
Oh Soo-jae and Chan in Why Her?
Yeom Ki-jeong and Cho Tae-hun in My Liberation Notes.

If I crack my head too much, then a whole lot of OTP's will be a big mess for me cause the dramas forced me to accept the OTPs not that I liked them.

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I also thought of Ki Jeong and Tae Hun but I feel like Ki Jeong will never let that relationship die, no matter what.

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That's exactly why I named it.

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Oh 😆

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I love these couples, but maybe because they are too young I can't be sure of they will last (but I would love they did): OTP in Weightlifting Fairy, OTP in At a distance, spring is green, almost all the couples in Age of Youth, OTP in Girls Generation 1979, OTPs in My first first love...

Couples that I think could break up for other reasons: It's ok to not be ok, Crash landing on you, Start-Up, The Package, Our Beloved Summer, Go Ho's starry night, Run On, Another Miss Oh, One spring Night, Vivid love...

Couples that I know will be forever happy: Live Up to your name, While you were sleeping, Flower boy Next Door, My unfamiliar family, Into the ring, Because this is my first life, Hometown Cha Cha Cha, Happiness, Secret Garden, 30 but 17, Abyss, Rookie Historian, Shopping King Louis, W: Two Worlds, When the Camellia Blooms, Clean with passion...

In all the other dramas I have watched but I have not mentioned here I prefer to think they will be happy forever, of course.

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Oh yes! The OTP in Flower Boy Next Door must be happily together forever. I can’t accept anything less.

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Enrique and Dok-Mi passed the test of time, distance and absence, and they are so perfect together and complete each other so well that I can only think they will be forever happy together.

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My personal opinion is that Enrique is one of the worst people I've seen in a drama. I realize this controversial, but I will die on this hill.

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You are not alone on this hill.
He is the f**king worst.

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He was so much the worst that I had to stop watching.

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Wow! I couldn't disagree more! XD But as we say around here, for each taste there is a color :)
I can see why there are people who think so.

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No controversy here, and no need for you to die. He’s a f**king idiot. Also, I felt zero chemistry between him and Dok-Mi. Was I perhaps watching a different show?

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I really, really wanted her to end up with Kim Ji-hoon's character, or even just be by herself in the end, but no.

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Our beloved summer? Oh no, not AGAIN ?! They've gone through enough push & pull throughout years. They need some rest now that they are happily married TAT.

& 100% sure about our happiness couple 😊

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I sincerely hope Our Beloved Summer main leads enjoy a peaceful, long, happy life together, but I don't know, I have my reservations about it :/

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I get the feeling the lesson he dished out to her would soon be forgotten. Someone as naturally acerbic and dismissive as her wants to win, and wouldn't forgive being brought to heel, whatever her feelings at the time it happened. Of course she will lower herself to get him back (and punish him at leisure for it).

Once a doormat, always a doormat, and she'd find a way to wipe her feet on him again, and feel justified as well as smug about it.

Woo-shik and Da-mi played their parts so well I was convinced by them both, so that's the conclusion I came to. Would they revert to type once the crisis was over? I think so.

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No!!!😬 not the OTP in One Spring Night! They're together forever!!

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I don't know... She had quite a bad temper and I can imagine them having lots of arguments. But who knows, some couples are like that and however... they are happy.

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I’m currently watching ‘Live Up To Your Name’. I’m SOOO happy they made it to your HEA list! I’m also glad that ‘While You Were Sleeping’ is there.🙌🏾

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Aww I love Live up to your name so much!! I hope you are enjoying it :)

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Boyfriend (a.k.a. Encounter). I disliked this relationship from the very beginning. I didn’t feel any chemistry between them—and not because of the age difference. It really bugged me that Jin-Hyuk kept pressuring Soo-Hyun to get back together; he acted as if he knew what she wanted/needed more than she did herself. At the end, it felt to me that he didn’t so much win her heart as wear down her resistance.

Heard It Through the Grapevine. Two teenagers—a girl from a poor family and a boy from a rich and powerful family—have a one-night stand. They don’t see each other again until he finds out she is pregnant with his child and about to give birth. His horrible parents don’t want anything to do with her, then later try to take the baby away from her. She’s smart, strong, and self-assured, while he’s immature and a bit of a wimp. Hardly a recipe for a successful marriage!

Itaewon Class. Sae-Ro-Yi and Yi-Seo never seemed like a couple in the first place, so I don’t see them staying together, except as friends.

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I felt like there was an overall creepy mood to Heard It Through the Grapevine. I still can't quite put my finger on it, but the entire drama was disturbing.

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I’m going to throw one of my favorites under the bus: Mr. Queen. While the drama had a HEA ending, I wondered how happy King Cheoljong and So-yong would really be together. Cheoljong fell in love with Jang Bong-hwan, and when he was gone, Cheoljong acknowledged that something was different. I could be wrong. Maybe that’s what the 2 bonus episodes were about; to show they were really meant to be together.

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Thanks for this one, really. You know that drama's endgame couple was a total failure both logically and emotionally if producers had to make a whole spinoff filled with lame tropes just to reassure viewers that the main show's ending was in fact a happy one...

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Agreed.

For me that couple was over even before the show ended, tbh.

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They were over since the night of Queen-to-be's lake incident. The entitled selfishness of a spoiled womanchild coupled with "I don't give a damn about YOUR feelings and all the horrors my family did to you" she displayed then (AND what she did after being firmly and reasonably rejected by King for all the above reasons) was enough to kill any bits of potential childhood-rooted fated romance they may have had otherwise. Had the ML did all that comments everywhere would've been overfilled with red flag screams, but being a (self-made) tragic maiden in patriarchal Joseon gives one a pass for nearly everything, I suppose.

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That relationship makes no sense, and I don't think there's anything the production could've done to make me root for the "real" queen without changing the whole thing.

Even if the queen and Bong Hwan worked like alter egos or something, and the queen had moments with Cheol Jeong, that would've been the same relationship based on Bong Hwan's actions that we got the first time (this time).

Just like they did in Oh My Ghostess, all the opportunities the FL had with the ML were thanks to our ghost, and all the significant memories the ML had were the ones with our ghost (in this case, Bong Hwan).

It's like they can't understand that this kind of shows aren't about happy endings between two bodies.
We care about the relationship itself, we care about the CHARACTERS.
They could've said our ghost was in coma, and they could've made our man from the future stay in the past. Or if they think that isn't right, they can just let the characters single.
But my real question is: Why built a romance you're going to destroy it at the last minute with something that makes no sense at all? Why don't you try to save it or at least break it completely?

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Tbh I view OG Queen's character as a writers' failed attempt to do their own version of H.C.Andersen's Little Mermaid - poor unlucky girl who saved the prince but had the credit for it and prince himself "stolen" from her by someone else and then loses her life in the water (it's practically a 99% ripoff at this point lol). Problem is, in their version the supposed Little Mermaid-ish heroine in the end became the villain herself by - surprise! - also stealing credit and the man from someone else who did all the dirty work instead of her. What a spin to a classical tale, right? I'd praise the drama for a deconstruction of an archetype, if it wasn't sooo painfully obvious that the intention was to play the whole thing straight without any twists. Now it's just bad writing. Or, should I say, overconfident writing? You know, when creator thinks they're smarter than everyone else before them combined... and ends up being proved wrong, for course.

You nailed the main problem here. Yes, personality and body are just not the same, and I really wish to see the day when a kdrama acknowledges it - even if by something abysmall like making ML to reject his lover's twin/random lookalike and insisting on staying loyal to the real thing. Probably will have to wait for a while tho *bitter laugh* That's the reason I never watched OMG despite funny premise and all the praise drama got - my sense of justice is way too strong to accept the happily ever after with a shameless impostor as a part of OTP.

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Da Li and Moo Hak are happy. That is the hill I am ready to die on.

Tbh, besides the OTP in Nevertheless and Kiss Sixth Sense, no main couple comes to mind. Generally speaking, out of 16 episodes 8 episodes are wasted on telling the main characters why they should not be together. If by the end, the OTP is still together most likely nothing will break them off.

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Kiss Sixth Sense was an OTP they killed in the final episode. Heaven help us if that bickering relationship was a HEA.

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Agree with Da Li and Moo hak. They seem to complement each other well, and they do this thing, strange in k drama land, of actually communicating.

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There are too many, really))) Especially when it comes to older dramas that loved to stretch the "opposites attract" thing to ridiculous lengths.

Wonder why no one mentions the most recent glaring example - Reborn Rich, where the only somewhat functional couple among many was daughter crazy and her pet husband (all their issues aside, it seemed like they genuinely cared for each other and were a team). All while romance between ML and prosecutor lady was DOOMED since the start - they had nothing in common (chemistry including) and would've never last in any of his lives with such polar opposite morals and principles, so it's a good thing that drama ended their story arc with him walking away with not-so-heavy heart.

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Oh I once wrote a whole piece on this listing some of the couples (circa 2018 or so) that I thought were doomed. Like Secretary Kim finally cracking and putting death mushrooms in her husband/boss' omelette.

Although probably worse are the ones that you know will last despite making everyone involved miserable. You know that Park Shin-hye's character from Heirs is going to endure that marriage with grim determination and a hefty daily dose from the well-stocked wine cellar.

The OTP from last year's Jinxed at First will last but only because she got a lobotomy and there's nothing more romantic than mind-wiping your future bride into dreamy compliance.

I think though one of the best things to come out of Korea in recent years is the romance plotline where Happily Ever After is not the point. Will they be together 4EVA is not as important as them being together and happy now. It's a good change.

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I was hoping to find your poison fanfic here. And yes, you're correct.

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That's what I love about I Hear Your Voice and My Liberation Notes! Both shows are upfront about the fact their couples may not last, but that isn't the point. They're making each other into better people NOW.

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I think i only watched one episode of Heirs but yes, i can imagine PSH acting the grim determination bit to her heart’s content.

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Perfect illustration of your last point: Ji-Ho and Se-Hee in Because This Life Is Our First. They never take their relationship (or each other) for granted, and agree to stay together only as long as they feel it’s working for both of them.

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Our Beloved Summer.
Love is for Suckers.
Every single couple involving a robot or deity.
Oh My Ghostess.
Feels Good to Die.

Leads I'm pretty sure started dating when the end credits started to roll:

Secret Forest.💚
The Fiery Priest (Priests can date, right? 😆 IDK, but Honey and KNG's chemistry can't go to waste).💚
Law School. 💚

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Oh, I like the topic: Leads I'm pretty sure started dating when the end credits started to roll.
For me it's Psychopath Diary case, hands down. They were lovely and understood each other perfectly.

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They had chemistry, they would've been cute together.

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Catholic Priests can’t date. I agree it’s stupid also would like female priests but *sigh*

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Oh, I guess I need to give up. 😔 They were really cute tho... they literally spent the whole show flirting.

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Law School OTP is canon and nobody can convince me otherwise.

I didn't finish Love is for Suckers but I do not believe that she loved him or wanted a relationship with him and at some point she's going to become more stable and leave him.

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I need Law School season 2 just for them.

I 100% agree with you.

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With all the second seasons coming out for the dramas lately I legitimately thought we’d get LAW SCHOOL S2. The cast was top notch but I want my confirmation of the OTP dammit!!

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Love is for Suckers - I don't think she's gonna leave him but I feel like she definitely settled

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Lol at your third category! I never understood the robot fetish. Now. A diety. You’re probably right there too.

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I can understand the appeal.
The robots are loyal, they literally do what you want, and they're so gorgeous (a robot looking like my favorite korean actor? Sign me up🤣 jk).
Plus, they're always there to save/ sacrifice themselves for their owner ("love").
But I also think that's exactly why those relationships would break up. People would start feeling like creeps.
Oh, and because of the social factor of course. No one wants to be the freak dating a robot (keeping it a secret is impossible according to kdramas).

On the other hand, dating a 100000 years old god that looks 25-30 years old but acts like a 17 y/o is... I would prefer to date a robot. 🤣 Jk.
If they need with 100000 years to reach that level of maturity who knows how many years would they need to keep up with my pace (Goblin kinda worked because they both were kids, tbh). I'm just a simple mortal.
Oh, and they would probably drag me to deathly adventures, because they're always cursed and stuff. Their enemies would try to kill me...
They could use their power to mess with my life just to get what they want, without considering the consequences I would face (like Gumiho Roomie)...
Oh, but the worse part is that I would hate to be with someone that won't grow old. My partner can be prettier than me, they can be gorgeous. Yes. I can hear people call me ugly but BUT I can't hear someone asking me if my partner is my child when I'm 60 but they still look 30. Or someone calling me asalta cunas because I'm 40 but they look 25.

Deities would be the worse partners for me.

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Sorry for this long response you didn't asked for. 😔🙈

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Well, dang. Seems like every OTP is not OTP at all. From all the responses, that is pretty much the entire kdramaland. Lol.

I have not seen the drama, but the mention of Weightlifting Fairy surprised me. I've only seen clips and memes, and thought they were so in love. That they will last.

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I think the objection was just that they were very young so you never know? I met my husband at university so I’m inclined to think that’s not too young 😄 high school romances though….that’s *unlikely* to last forever.

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Sometimes I find myself being a little disbelieving at high school romance plots but then I have to remind myself that two of my best friends started dating in high school and have been married for nine years now! So I agree, it may not be the most common thing ever, but it does happen. They are great together.

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People are skeptical mainly due their age, I think. I also believe that they will last because they were REALLY compatible in all aspects we saw and idk how two people this right for each other can not last unless something tragically huge happens. Watch it - it's a cute, funny, romantic and overall very feel-good drama (with no murders to "spice" the plot up! they don't make romcoms like that anymore, sadly).

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I added that couple because of their age, but I agree they were deeply in love. They are one of my favorite couples in Dramaland and enjoyed a lot with their story :)
I wish they are together forever.

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Jae on & Eun O in lovestruck in the city.
They had chemistry & all but doesn't seem like they'd last long. They are more convincing as a summer fling couple than those in long term relationships.

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Hahaha I agree with you. And seems like we both said love struck is doomed at the same time from different parts of the world! Cheers!

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Great minds think alike 😉

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For me, it was the opposite. I didn't like like them in Jeju. The FL lied a lot and made me him suffering. But at the end, they were ready to be honest with each other and date.

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Yeah, but she never seemed so infatuated with him as he was with her.

& he actually fell in love with her bright personality in jeju. So it's questionable if he'd feel the same with her callous personality now.

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The otp from love struck city ain’t gonna work, ever. There’s just too many issues and communications and inferiority complex to have a healthy healing relationship. So yeah, that’s definitely doomed.

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Are You Human? : I don't see how a human can date a robot...
Matrimonial Chaos : Both couples were a big mess.
Beautiful Love, Wonderful Life : it didn't make sense that the big sister got back with her husband... (it was a bad family drama)
TKEM : they don't live in the same universe and he's a King...
Full House : I'm still trying to understand how they fell in love...

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I wonder if the Shinnamon Roll brigade is ready to hear the Terrible Truth about Are You Human Too... that relationship wasn't going to see out a year.

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It's not like there was the human counterpart...

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Yeah, the violent, abusive original Shin was human but that's the best one could say for him - he would be a non-starter as a romantic partner, too. I was annoyed that she ended up with a robot, but also relieved that she didn't pair up with the real jerk and he didn't get any phony last-second redemption. What the heck, why not throw in a third (fourth?) character played by Seo Kang-joon, maybe a long-lost identical twin cousin or something? It wouldn't have been any more ridiculous than what we got and it would have made imagining their HEA less disturbing.

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The issue it's they never really developped the human. There was a reason why he became like that, his grandfather punished people around him. But they just made the perfect robot the hero. The fact the mother chose to save instead to live and spend time with her son was so sad...

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She’ll catch him cheating on her with the Roomba, and that’ll be the end of THAT relationship. 🤖🍆🫣

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Wait what? 😂

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The emoticons alone 😂😂

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The robot ended to have an affair with the vacuum in this sceneario, if I understood correctly.

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Roomba = robotic vacuum cleaner.

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Matrimonial Chaos was horrible. CTH and BDN broke up because they were incompatible and he was in love with LE, LE and SSG broke up because he was a narcissistic cheating man-child. CTH dated LE, and broke up because she found out she is pregnant with SSG's child and got back with him. What?? And CTH got back together with BDN because it felt nostalgic and convenient. What??? Tell me how is any of this supposed to be healthy and lasting. Ugh. I hated that show.

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Me too.

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My God, is that how Matrimonial Chaos ends??🙆🏾‍♀️😨. Thank God I jumped ship around episode 6 or 8 because I just got fed up with Lee El for willingly putting herself through misery and Cha Tae Hyun’s character not being able to say why he married in the first place when he always acted like he could barely tolerate Bar Doona’s character. I think somewhere in the drama, someone admits that Cha Tae Hyun was better off alone.

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Actually, I could see how a human can date a robot, I mean, they showed us in that drama, particularly because that robot was so special, but.... Hey, what I cannot see is that she could marry a robot. That won't work.

And about Full house, I am still angry with that show because the ML was very stupid and I agree, they were not in love, they couldn't even kiss properly 😂😂😂😂😂

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The theme of this section is if they will live happily in the future. I don't see how when she will become old and not him.

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Yes, exactly. Even if they remain together many years, even if he has a "function", which could satisfy her in that way that you know 😜... Even if she resigns not to bear children... She will grow old and he won't.
Then he will be like very expensive a toi for her, or even an old friend and good company, but they definitively won't be normal🤣🤣🤣

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It looks like a good number of examples are when the writers made the leads such opposites or with such deep conflicts that their pairing seemed impossible until the last episode, and then the OTP was patched together with dollar-store glue. My most bitter disappointment in that category remains, Something in the Rain.

I'm surprised so many folks felt the OTP in Our Beloved Summer was unstable. Maybe I have to rewatch it. What did I miss?

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The most obvious: the main couple from Nevertheless (main picture of this thread). He’ll try to be a good partner for a while, but in the end he’ll end up hurting her again and again. He’s toxic.

Runner up: main couple from Why Her ? I couldn’t believe in this couple at all. The age difference or rather difference in maturity is simply to big.

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The nevertheless couple NEED to break up. SUCH an unhealthy relationship. I hope Nabi gets her eyes checked & identify the walking red flag in front of her.

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I actually disagree about Crash Landing on You. In my imagination, they do the Switzerland thing for a few years until Jeong-hyeok's father dies and Se-ri gets pregnant (these happen around the same time, don't question it). They communicate with each other through the foundation to arrange everything and then Jeong-hyeok's mom accompanies him to his next overseas symphony performance and they both defect. The mom gets to live in the same building as her son, daughter in law, and twin granddaughters, JH and SR get to be the cutest family ever, and JH just plays piano in the south instead. *ahem* Not that I've thought that much about this.

I don't have high hopes for the lead couple in Search WWW. The whole marriage thing doesn't have to be an insurmountable barrier (Because This is Our First Life couple managed to figure out how to make it work for them) but they already let it come between them once, and neither of them feels any differently at the end of the drama. I would have thought that marrying a guy with non-Korean parents would make a difference, since there are lots of traditions you wouldn't have to worry about that some women might take issue with. But they never even spent much time exploring why marriage was such an issue for her, so it's not clear what would have solved the disagreement, if anything.

Looking through my list, I much more often imagine a happy ending for couples that were not the main focus of the drama haha!

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One couple that came to mind is the policeman and FL’s friend in HomeCha. I agreed: I can imagine a HEA for this couple much clearer than for our OTP.

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Oh! Reading back over my last sentence I realized what it sounded like, but that's not exactly what I meant! I meant that instead of imagining that an OTP will not make it after the drama ends, I'm much more likely to imagine a drama couple that wasn't the main point of the show having a happy ending. Like, I imagine that Lee Je-hoon in Move to Heaven would have cleaned himself up enough to catch the interest of the social worker played by Sooyoung and they would have had a really cute romance.

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It’s good that it has raised an interesting point for me though. I just realized that I like less complex relationships, like those of the side characters, than the OTP’s sometimes.

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I do agree that sometimes a secondary couple has a less complex romance and maybe better chances. But I was fine with both couples in HomeCha.

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I agree about CLOY. Even though defection was never seriously offered as a possibility, I assumed that once the ML's parents (or just his father) passed, he would defect.

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Yeah, his father was obviously high-ranking and must have been invested in the political situation in the north, but his mom made it super clear that her loyalty was to her son(s), so I've always included her in my imagined defection plan. I think if Se-ri was pregnant it would have changed the equation for Jeong-hyeok a bit, and even when he was staying with her in the south, he was imagining what their life would be like if he could just stay. I think it's a pretty reasonable way for the rest of their story to play out.

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I understanding the continuation aspect of CLOY, but the end was not as open-ended as people remember. After several annual Swiss rendezvous', Jeong-Hyeok fails to show up. Se-Ri asks the director for any news and there is none. Her heart sinks because she knows/fears the worst (his family would be a prime political purge target). She is left alone with only sentimental memories.

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Nevertheless *deliberately* placed red flags in our path as part of the story arc. What's more disturbing are dramas that don't see their own red flags. An egregious example was 'What's Wrong With Secretary Kim'. The chaebol prince pursued Mi-so because he's a petulant child who has always got his way and can't stand when people go against him. That overly lavish wedding at the end felt like a hostage situation. Mi-so was being locked in a golden cage as his possession.

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See above, it's fine because Secretary Kim cracks and slips death mushrooms in his omelette. Since she plans his murder like she does everything else - meticulously - she gets away with it and finally obtains her happily ever after.

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This is why I dislike the chaebol stalking-manipulation-harassment trope to force an innocent young woman into a relationship.

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So I'm not the only one that thought Secretary Kim was the story of an annoying child-man with too much power over the people around him?

They show should've been called "What's wrong with the boss and his babysitters?" 🙄

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There's a benefit to that much-hated trope of the 'extended separation'. A couple grows close while surviving an adventure, then something separates them. After 1-2-4-8 years they reunite as their own people who have matured and ask "So, do we still like each other?" then they embark on a 'normal' healthy relationship. Its a good trope as long as you haven already seen it 40 times before.

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There’s only one couple that I can think of being together forever—that’s the Coffee Prince couple.

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I'm a bit late to this post! Boyfriends/girlfriends with violent or volatile tempers in K-dramas will probably not last no matter how reformed they are after finding their OTP. Prison Playbook, It's OK Not To Be OK, My Liberation Notes and of course, Boys Over Flowers. In BOF you not only have a boyfriend with a violent temper you have the "soulmate" hanging around nearby. I don't see a good end to this relationship.

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The writers don't realize it, but they often preset us with a forecast on how things will turn out in the *parents*. How often have we been given the picture of a cruel chaebol father and trapped, unhappy chaebol mother in a strained, loveless marriage who had married impetuously for love 30 years earlier?

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Yes, in their parents' generation divorce was a taboo option so couples were forced "by obligation" to stay together. However, recently the fastest growing divorce rate in Korea are people over 50.

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whenever there has been hitting, thats a no. and if you hit someone, you´re just a universal no. except self defence.
deliberately throwing on judo mat on purpose while knowing you might cause internal injuries, and then still dating
dont date whoever has a major drinking problem, but the korean nation would die out I guess.

but on the opposite side, why can´t you just date a zombie? besides the obvious fact they are already falling apart without having their heart broken?

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I try to picture most of the couples in dramas lasting because otherwise, what's the point, but I totally don't see the couple in Do You Like Brahms? lasting long. Both are too self-effacing and passive, they won't actually say or go after what they want. It's one of the few dramas where I thought the leads were actually a bad match.

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